Single Rear Wheel vs Dually - What's The Best HD Truck For You? We Find Out at The Local Drive Thru!
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Wide in the middle is more manly? Well then Nathan and I are in agreement. ;)
duggydo we is HD’s!!!
There should be a disclaimer: Single rear wheel short bed vs. long bed. Of course, the shot bed is going to fit better.
I agree. Should have included a one ton single rear wheel for a better comparison
The front end components are identical(minus the hub adapters for dually rims) across all the hd trucks.
Yup, more at play than width in this comparison. With these two compared models, the dually is both longer overall as well as wider in the rear. Of course the dually is a bit harder to maneuver.
He said short wheel base in the video
jnk26 f450 has a wide front end so it turns short then a 350
If you’re buying a dually, you know you need a dually. People don’t accidentally come home with one and try to make it replace a half ton.
James Ireland Unfortunately you are wrong
My dad bought one cus he was drunk....he got good deal on it tho😂
Most people do that. However, you might be surprised...there are a fair amount of people who buy DRW trucks...bot because they need one, because they think DRW trucks are cool.
I've come close to replacing my old S10 and ranger into a dually on a whim, out of no necessity a few times throughout my years... ended up with a 250 super duty for now
@@15Jeep Guilty as charged! 😃 All that being said, we love our F-450!
Saying the AT4 as “off road based truck...sort of” is the most accurate description of the AT4 ever
Yeah....sort of... 😉
Kind of like...yeah.
Will B damn boi that sirrea he or she thick is it a girl or a boy tho??
Guccibeast 0 thic is great lol 😝
If it had a locker it would be a direct competitor to the power wagon
I drive a dually as my daily. With a 110” wide rear wheel width. When you drive it all the time, you know your truck well enough to know how to maneuver it anywhere you want to
Really?The GMC 35000(Dually) is my dream truck ,do you haul anything with your dually?(I might not lol)
@@yoshiinasuit8160 full time fifth wheel RV
I also drive my dually daily and have no problem with any of that . You learn your truck .
I used to frequent that Burger King back in the day when I worked at the Chase Bank in Gunbarrel. I have a 2019 Ram 3500 Mega Cab dually and it’s a pain in the ass to find parking spaces for it. I took it out to Vegas in October and found it easier to valet it. The valets understand it’s too big for most of the garages there, so they just park it out front with the other lifted trucks and Ferrari’s.
Sorry guys but this is an apples and oranges comparison. Why didnt you get 2 one ton trucks, one DRW and one SRW then make the comparison.
HARY 5150 yeah, use both 8ft long beds. Comparing actual wheel base doesn’t accomplish anything.
@@zebmccollum I bet they'd be almost the same.
@@bloodbushcraft2467 I think they would be real close too, if they were both 8ft beds. I don’t understand why they compared a SRW with a 6.5ft bed and a DRW with an 8ft bed. Sometimes these guys test stuff in odd ways that doesn’t translate as being a level or even fair comparison. They will do something silly like a 0-60 race with one brands single cab pit against another brands extended/double cab or one with 4WD and one with 2WD and act like that is a fair comparison in acceleration or towing capacity. You can clearly tell what each of these guys favorite brands are based on their positive and negative comments over the vehicles they are reviewing in all their vids.
@@zebmccollum agreed. also the bed is 610 which I feel is close enough to 8 foot for me and my uses. I feel the 8 foot is just a bit to much truck.
I went with the long bed super crew F-350 single rear wheel for my work truck. I've lost 10 pounds already from having to park in the back of the lot and walk into a store. Turing radius is not great, but then again i didn't buy it for its maneuverability. I bought it for its ability to increase my bank account. If I need maneuverability, I drive the 1/2 ton.
You need to repeat this test with a F450 4x4.
ahhh yes wide front axle with a 7 foot shorter turning circle
Don Hanson yeah I was going to say aren't duallys supposed to have better turning radius
@@jaysahr5835 no the F450 does because of its Wide track front axle. It has a tighter turning on the front axle, or a greater turning angle.
@@SledgeHammer43 an F-450 beats all on a turning radius test.
No this is about towing
Single rear or dual? That depends how many bags of mulch you will be getting once a year from the home depot!
😂😂😂
I just get bulk mulch from the landscape supply. It’s just dumped in the back. Way better then moving bags.
In-between their daily commutes to the office too!
FishFind3000 I work in the garden at Home Depot so I second this everyone do that this year 😂
How about comparing long wheelbase to long wheelbase?
That and both 1 ton, 3500s
Jack Pierce short vs long base
They always have those useless tests. There never apples to apples.
Agreed, not fair on turning radius test.
When towing and hauling all the time, dually is the only way to go. It’s just like semi trucks, there is a reason nobody likes the super wide single tires and prefers the normal dual wheels. When single tires blow, your day is done. With dual wheels you can still drive around for awhile...
Haha I saw the funniest video I saw a dually hauling a reefer. It was insane! I’m guessing it was a dry trailer but still it was hilarious to see a dually hauling a 53’ trailer 🤣
both should have been full size beds for turning radius test
And both 3500's?
@@gregorysmall9284 both don't exactly have to be 3500's just as long they're both long bed crew cabs.
Well I have an office job, but I still drive a dually around on lease. Like to be a douche
FUN video!! Really enjoyed the format...and music!! So cute!!
What a shock, just enough fluff to get over the 10min mark...
🤔
@James Marquis Sometimes the truth just easy to digest
My F-450 DRW crew cab 8' bed turns much tighter than my GMC Sierra crew cab 6' bed and much much tighter than my F-150 super cab with an 8' bed..... all day long.
The F-450 with the wide track front axle is a game changer. Not available from GMC or Ram.
The last gm crewcab dually were 167". Same wheelbase as the 2001 GMT800 trucks. They have increased the length it was much needed but it still falls short of the Fords at 176" it's just on par with the 1999-2016 Super Duties. Ram is still trailing at 168" on the old 2011 form-factor. But it's got a shiny interior lol
Dually for groceries for sure. I got TWO cases of soda the other week and boy was I glad to have the payload capacity and extra stability.
I really want a reg cab dually, just a tow pig and workhorse! Great video! Duallys and Donuts is the best combo!
thats what i buy dually reg cab 4x4 diesel.
I didn't buy my Ram to go off road, or for fast food, I bought it to pull a large 5th wheel. If I wanted to go off road or any of that stuff, I would have purchased an off road vehicle.
Nice 👍 review. Guys are awesome
As someone that hauls for a living with a Chevrolet one ton dually, I would never consider another single wheel one ton for my type of work.
I was going to comment similar, if you do a lot of heavy hauling and towing the dually is the way to go, for the weekend warrior that tows a trailer once in a while for camping but spends most of their time using their truck as a commuter car single wheels is better, they're a bit easier to park LOL.
Gene Fugatt neither would anyone else who actually uses and purchased them. Nonsense video
Depends on what you tow. If it’s 20k lbs or less a SRW 1 ton should be more than enough. The extra money for tires is not worth it if you know for a fact you won’t be towing heavier than a SRW can handle
@@jessaphillips2846 actually not true. It's not so much about weight as it is stability. I hauled with a single wheel one ton when I first started. I hauled some relatively light loads around 10k - 15k pounds that were high sided loads. In the crosswinds it was very unstable. The same cannot be said for duallys in that same instance but, what do I know, I only have over 2 million miles of experience.
@@genek121973 been hauling heavy with SRW and DRW for a while, the diffrence between the two is minuscule, they both have the same suspension and frame. Air bags will help control the load.
Nathan’s a man after my own heart, the boy loves toque and drive thru’s !!! The other day I got behind a big RAM diesel, the only thing you could hear was the beautiful music of that awesome Cummins diesel!!!
Both are great 👍
What did we learn the dually truck not good for Starbucks drive-thru !!!!!
Chick-fil-A drive thru are more evil
@@JasonW. Yes but Chick Fil A would probably bring your food out to you and maybe clean your windows
Heheh. Try Long John Silver's Drive-Thru. Ouch! You'll be on the curb on either side of the vehicle with SRW!
James Marquis It’s not that serious, relax
And if you’re only going to only be hauling your butt around a Dually Isn’t a great choice.
It is a stupid question. Obviusly a dually can haul much more
The comparison should’ve been of a dually and a 1 ton single wheel rear axle truck
Fun fact: it's hard to find a carwash that fits a dually
wish i could find an automatic car wash for duallys .thats my problem in the winter wish i could go through one.
Seen plenty of truck washes
Noconz0727 MC My Dually gets hand washed in my driveway. Wish I could find me a car wash
@@gslife1 I follow "Keep Your Daydream" on YT. They are full-time RVers with an F450. That's their biggest complaint is lack of car washes.
This was a legitimate concern when i just bought my 2500 vs 3500.
Changing a flat on the inner wheel has one more problem vs. single and you can't get anything stuck between the wheels if you don't have a dually. Both types are great trucks for what they're designed for, just be sure you're getting what you want and everything that comes with it.
SRW vs DRW comes down to payload/towing needs. Only get dually if you need it! Also, turning radius would probably be the same on both trucks if they had the same bed length. amiwrong?
Yeah it would be identical or nearly so. Within a measuring/driving error margin.
Do the turn radius on the f450. That thing turns tight!
Wins hands down.
Interesting video but useless as a comparison because the AT4 not only has a different suspension because of the off-road capabilities but because the only difference between the 2500 and 3500 is the suspension so even if it was a Denali it still wouldn't have been a direct comparison.
This is almost exactly what I'm looking for. I'd love a standard bed but I can only find the crew cab long bed in my price range so it's practically the dually just not as wide
How about a comparison with some beef; 1 ton SRW vs 1 ton Dually, towing heavy, Hauling heavy (max payload in bed), etc...Thx.
Exactly
Agreeable get the same box length for both vehicles that's not an accurate test
It depends on where you live. Will you be dealing with snow or mud? If you answered yes to any or both, a dually is not for you. I used to have mud and snow cake up in between the dually’s and I’d always loose traction if I didn’t have weight in the bed over the rear axle. Dually’s also don’t handle well down the highway unless there’s weight on the rear axle. Going to a super single conversion solves all those problems. I currently own a 2020 Lariat F550 SWB with a DBL Customs stage 2 conversion including their ProRock 80 front axle and locker and CTIS. Having owned several dually’s in the past this is the best tow rig I’ve owned. I pull a 24’ gooseneck livestock trailer or a 32’ or 40’ gooseneck flatbed typically for big square bales somewhere totaling 34k lbs up and down steep roads and down the highway and the super singles handle better then any dually. Quite frankly I can’t figure why anyone would want a dually anymore.
I have the best of both worlds, my daily driver F-250 CCSRW and my tow rig F-350 CCDRW. Great video guys, but I LOVE my fat butt dually more
To make make this more fair, they should have gotten a 3500 single rear wheel, as the 3500 SRW can also have an 8-foot bed with the crew cab; that would've leveled the playing field a lot more. As far as my take on 1-ton duallys, they made a lot more sense years ago when trucks were more reasonably sized [and priced] & not the obnoxious behemoths that they have become today. I dare say, if you need dual rear wheels for towing reasons, you are better off just simply getting the 4500 pickup at that point, especially because that wider front axle gives it a better turning radius. The other reason I advise that is because on a 3500, ESPECIALLY, if you want 4-wheel-drive as well, you have to pay quite a lot to upgrade to dual rear wheels; you will simply pay extra on that 3500 dually for what comes standard on a 4500 pickup. I feel the same holds true for Ram's 3500 dually, as well as Ford's F-350 dually.
You guys should test the turning radius of the f450s with the wide track front axle that has a little bit more turning angle than the 250/350
40ft vs 47 is a HUGE difference
Better than an F-150 super cab with an 8' bed.
Thank you for choosing GMC great video
Which crew cab diesel has the absolute highest payload SRW? As better tires are developed, that can cash heavier loads is it possible we’ll see even heavier payload numbers for SRW.... or am I thinking wrong? I’m assuming the reason payloads are greater on the dually is based on having 4 tires rather than 2. Or is the payload also a component of width?
That’s the beauty of the Ford 450. The wide front axle for tighter turning. Also man are those Denali wheels boring!
I would be embarrassed to have them even on my base work truck
I love your reviews guys! Keep them coming! 👍
Did you measure the grill?
nice trucks
Try a Regular cab dually maybe a Ram Big Horn, or a Ford XLT regular cab. Shorter wheel bases should help.
Am I the only one that thinks they look badass ? 🤔
@@theblacktieguy6694 no I love the look of a single cab dually. It just looks like a Nice big towing mishine.
Does towing and payload change?
Comparing a 2500 to a 3500 is not an appropriate comparison. It would be more relevant to compare a 3500 single rear wheel to a 3500 dually, for both payload and towing. This would be a closer result, although of course the dually would do more.
Wat is the ground cleaner
I love my Chevrolet Dually and it is my daily driver. :-)
Andy W why not! People love their Tesla’s too
What do you do when you have to park in tight spaces I want to daily drive a nicer dually instead of getting a cheaper one to only use when I need to tow equipment but I feel parking would be impossible .
Nathan Cole I don’t put myself in tight places. I will park farther away and walk. It’s a mind set change.
Ditto. We always park our 450 far away from front entrance. Free exercise and less crowding.
I don’t think most commenters here understand what is going on here. This is not a capability test. This is a daily “non truck stuff” livability test. Fact is most people buying these big expensive trucks use them as commuters/daily Drivers most of the time. This video perfectly illustrates some of the real world issues you have to deal with when you have a large truck.
Personal example of daily driving a dually. I had a F350 Crew Cab, Long Bed dually that I used to haul my camper and a golf cart and my family. We went to a movie and I parked the beast out in the back-40 of the parking lot all by itself. Well, the beast didn’t stay alone and after the movie cars had parked all around it just about trapping it in. It literally took me 17 times pulling forward a little and backing up a little while turning to get out. My wife and 2 young kids really thought we were stuck.
I never had many problems with drive-thru and parking. Most of it is just in the set up... plan ahead and don’t drive and park it like it’s a sedan.
Redo the test with srw full size bed and let me know about that turning.
80psi is only 25psi short of those $500/ecah big rig tires btw.
Honestly very impressive for a light duty truck.
So buy one of each problem solve!! 👍🏻
OK, few points... The Dully HD has a longer wheel base, so yes it will have a longer turning radius (this is just one factor out of many that determine radius) Also the suspension setup for the AT4 is going to be softer for the "off-road" ability of the truck VS the payload and towing capacity of the HD truck. Lastly, most people who opt for the higher cost of the HD truck plus the dual rear wheel package probably need the payload capacity gains, and are not looking for a "macho" look. The trade off is slightly less usability on the road when not working/hauling. The premise of the video is weird to me, because you are comparing apples to bananas at this point.
I love my Ram 3500 for towing. Wind is no problem. I hate my dually for daily driving.
Why is that at4 so rusty underneath? It's so new.
Jimmy Spencer FLT already answered that...it’s Moab dust and dirt
Thanks for reminding me why I chose my 2018 Silverado 3500 High Country in the Crew Cab SRW format to occasionally pull my 14000 lbs loaded fifth wheel and as my daily driver.
Awsome
Did you really need to measure to figure out that a 6’10” bed is 14” shorter than a 8’ bed?
Give Andrea a map, a compass and a stop watch and he can fly a 747 down the Grand Canyon blind folded! Greatest Movie ever Hunt For Red October reference Sean Connery and Andrea my 2 favorite Russians!
Was the srw a 2500 or 3500.
I've got a megacab srw and have issues at some places.
Nathan, nice oldsmobile shirt!
Would the ford f450 dually be a better choice. Better turning radius
In my life I may never need a f450 but I kinda wanna see if I can get that better turning axle on a lighter duty truck
Dually owner here, dually all day everyday, love duallys
Just don't do what I do and bring your trailer through the drive-thru haha
I tell you, there is a McDs near my work that I rub tires on my CC F150. THAT is tight.
Fuel economy difference?
Andre got his CDL already?
I did not watch the video yet, but I think the biggest difference is when towing a heavier trailer it won’t sway as much on a dually truck? But then again if you actually load the trailer right you should be ok either way.
Is it possible to get higher end model without the stupid tailgate?
I don't have a need for a dually but they are so flipping bad ass looking.
Nice olds shirt
Great “veeeidio”! haha haha.
6-ft bed (i.e. SWB) vs 8-ft bed (LWB) comparison? Should have used LWB for comparison of turning radius.
You forgot to add, the dually isn't allowed in any of the drive through car washes
DUALLY HANDS DOwN!
That's why I have both !!! Great video!!
That is why I talked myself out of buying a dually. Thanks for sharing Andre and Nathan.
Sooo in order to air up the inner tire on the dually u have to take off the outer wheel first...seems like alot of work with a dually
Who decided to give that a 👎 that was actually really well done and fun to watch. Keyboard warriors live on
Now show a test with a dually 4500 or 5500. They have wide front axels with far better turning radiuses. May even beat that 2500. That will be my nest truck but I get by just fine in my 12 ft flatbed dually. I just park further back and if the drive thru is too cramped, I just park and go in to order. I prefer that anyway. I get to choose the perfect amount of ice in my drink and I grab all the taco bell sauce I want.
Come on guys, this comparison, although entertaining isnt really a close comparison. 2500 short box against a 3500 dually, nobody actually thinks it's worth comparing. How about a comparison video on a 3500 long bed SRW against a dually. . Since the new SRW has far more capability than older duallys. And are really close to what the 2019 dually could do.
Should of compared the chev dually to Ford's and rams length turn radius bumpiness etc
How is that brand new at4 already rusting lol
i took my 2020 high country dually through a tight ass wendys drive through and i had to back up 1 time
You should try ram as well
Are there any SRW trucks that offer comparable payload and towing capacity?
C Me - That’s a Negative. That’s like asking if 4 average people can carry as much weight combined as 6 average people. Keep in mind that dually’s also come with a bigger rear axle than any SRW truck will.
As someone who has had both many times, I honestly prefer the SRW overall. If you're getting a camper that's over 3500 lbs. on the pin and/or 18,000 lbs. total, you'd probably have to get a dually. But for me, I didn't care for driving my 2017 F450 around running errands and such. Hauling our toy hauler, it was great. But my 2015 F350 SRW I originally had did just as good a job pulling that same camper.
would really like to know what length/weight your camper was which pulled the same for both trucks. doing research and and your opinion could save me some money lol
@@nickisabelle724 We've actually sold that truck and camper since this last comment. But the camper itself was a 2016 Vengeance 40D12. The pin weight was getting close to 3500 lbs. It was a triple axle toy hauler at around 44'. When we bought it, I had a 2015 F350 SRW with air bags and 3.55 axle. It actually pulled it very well. We even took it to Disneyworld from NC.
I'm a very experienced driver and have an extensive history of towing heavy equipment. But if I were to throw my opinions into this highly discussed topic, I'd say a pin weight of around 3000 lbs is where I'd start to consider a dually. I personally would never consider a dually if the pin weight was anywhere under 3000 lbs.
No fifth wheel testing?
Cool XLX F550 but i chose for Xl not dually.. no such a big parking area for dually... its pretty bad
another example of why i dont visit tfl truck much anymore. comparing a short and long wheel base and complaining about the longs ability to turn. it would be like buying a plastic spray bottle and a gas powered pressure washer to water your house plants. now the bottle makes life easy and can go anywhere, (short). where as the pressure washer (long) takes some time to set up and will generally get the job done but just make a mess for this use. why would i want to bring a dually or "pressure washer" through a drive through or to a simple task like watering house plants. i have had a 2000 chevy crew cab 3500 long bed single rear wheel and i currently have a 2001 chevy crew cab long bed 3500 dually and while there is a noticeable difference in ride quality i would still take the dually. long wheel base trucks were never meant for city drive thruoghs, even then i have taken mine through on occasion and never have i ever worried about scuffing a tire or just outright hopped over a curb to make the turn, its a truck!. tfl truck used to be just about the truck and what it does and how well it did it. you have become this channel that just compares "a" to "b" and then complains that "a" cant do "b", because "a" was never meant to do "b". get back to just showing us what the truck can do, complaining about which truck has more usb ports or which dumb phone only fits in whatever wireless charging console is just stupid. i used to come here every week and see what is new but over the last year it has been maybe every other month, when im really bored. i cant take any more of the petty crap, it used to been fun but i'll un-sub . thanks
it was a fun test, but the only relevent test was the drive-thru, different wheelbase negated the turn test and off-road vs load rated rear springs negated the ride (did mr truck approve this test).
What fast food joint was that?
Burger King in Gun Barrel Colorado
I think to really do the full test you’d also have to include a 3500 srw with an 8’ bed and a 4500.
Really this test should be between a 3500 srw and dually.
I know with Ford it’s possible to get a 250 that can only pull 12k when fully loaded. Which is less then what some 150s will pull. It’s all about the sticker on that particular trucks door. And a 3500 srw will always have more payload then a 2500
All about the suspension and chassis, they share engines so obviously if you're comparing apples to apples like long bed srw from both 2500 & 3500 with the same engine the 3500 will be more capable and have stiffer suspension
Awesome episode.. Two trucks doin burnouts...⭐⭐⭐⭐nice shirt Nathan🏁🏁🏁🏁Thanks guys
Derek: Hey Johnny! You Know for New Mud Flag?
Johnny: Um... Sure is...
* Jump *
Derek: That's Really Never True!?
There's not a Light HD truck made with 4 wheels that tows better than a dually..... they say that once you go dually, you don't go... uhm, back (I couldn't think of anything that rhymed with "Dually") :(
Oldsmobile for the win! Lol