2018 Toyota Mirai Review - Are Hydrogen Fuel Cells The Future??
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Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
1:22 - The Hydrogen Fuel Cell System
3:29 - Interior
8:13 - BFB Test
8:35 - Interior
9:01 - Back Seats
10:55 - Trunk / Cargo Space
12:07 - Exterior
12:41 - Final Thoughts
16:04 - Outro - Auta a dopravní prostředky
We have Mirais up in Canada too, where the heated seats and glass are very much appreciated.
Isn't it only in Quebec though? LIke isn't that the only province right now that supports it? Or do other provinces have this tech as well?
Fun fact:
The first working hydrogen fuel cell car was created by General Motors, named the “GM MultiVan”. It was essentially a GMC Handi-Van with hydrogen, oxygen tanks and a fuel cell sacrificing the cargo space. It only had an unsurprising 150 miles of range and a maximum top speed of 70 mph, but hey, this was 1966, flying cars didn’t exist at that period. The hydrogen was too expensive and impractical, yet GM never intended to bring the car to mass production.
I think now, hydrogen is slowly becoming practical and reasonable for the use of automobiles and buses. Even if it has a high potential rate of being flammable due to the high energy content, hydrogen storage units these days have a strong structural mix of materials and are literally bulletproof. EVs are good but also not exactly saving the environment for various of reasons tbf, but I like the early concept!
My university used to have a fleet of four hydrogen buses. I was never able to ride one and the garage burned down with them inside. I don't think it was the hydrogen's fault.
It's a good idea to use a sun shade on your car's windshield to protect the interior from the hot sun
Shout out to South Coast Plaza in costa mesa for letting Zach review the mirai
I moved from Wheeling, West Virginia to Santa Barbara, California about a year and a half ago, I also have a 2016 Prius and have owned all 4 generations, including 2 original Honda Insight’s…a year ago I purchased a certified used Mirai 2018 with 34,000 miles. You’ve inspired me to post a one-year update, which just passed February 28th. I love my Mirai, I’ve had one or two hiccups, but not with the Mirai, only with TrueZero, a hydrogen supplier. But this review was super cool, thanks for posting!
I’m in socal and just bought one today!
I asked the same thing. Why would this car need heated seats, heated steering wheel and heated windshield wipers? Lol, especially being sold mostly in SoCal. Makes absolutely no sense at all. In my area, central Kentucky, those features would be wonderful in the winter time.
Now that's interesting because on the Corolla sedan (Toyota's smallest car) & maybe Camry, they offered the heated steering wheel and wiper de-icer in Canada, but not in the United States. In the USA, it can get pretty cold in the winter in the northern parts of the country Heated seats are only offered on the highest trim level with full leather seats. I don't know how Toyota decides which cars and places get what features
Because it’s like in the 50s in the winter and that’s cold for socal standards
@@the_random9718 lol, 50s are cold? That's like t-shirt weather and going outside time in the winter around here. I know it's all about what you're used to, but it's still funny.
I live in Louisiana where winter only drops by on occasion *one Christmas was 80° I wore shorts and flips flops* in spite of that I refuse to NOT have heated seats. I LOVE to crank the AC up, and turn on my heated seat!
A lot of people live by heated seats. I think they’re severely overrated though personally.
I agree. I just bought one cheap! And it’s awesome. Fuel is not cheap but I did 16miles in 8miles very efficient.
out in California on the 405 I saw a later Model Toyota Mirai sedan and it kinda took my breath away for being a rarity compared to the northeast car market
I can guess the heated mirrors and wheel are for the mountains surrounding Los Angeles(ie Big Bear)
Cool car agree we should all get one, seems better than a traditional Hybrid. Got to ask why do they only sell them in that state seems like their missing a huge opportunity to sell thousands of them
I can attest that uber did in fact allow me to put my 2017 Mirai in the system and I use it . For Lyft I called it a Prius and I do Lyft also .
Unfortunately, Toyota won't make an Android-based infotainment system as some automakers are doing because they have a problem with Google's privacy.
Toyota launched Entunes 3.0 in 2018 on The Camry, but other models still have the outdated Entunes 2.0. They only get the new version when the car gets redesigned. I wish I could take this new version to replace the old version in my 2018 Corolla
I like the way it looks; very futuristic, not boxy!
I would be surprised if someone hadn’t already made a 3 rear seat conversion for these and doing uber with it
I don't know if fuel cells are the future but they'll at least be a niche option like they are today.
Toyota Mirais are sold throughout California and the people in Northern California appreciate the heated functions. They're supposed to sell these elsewhere, but outside of California, there are very few regions that have the hydrogen fueling infrastructure. Hydrogen fuel costs have exploded also, more than doubling in the last year.
I want to like hydrogen as a fuel, but there's a problem that I almost never hear mentioned. That's how hydrogen is produced. 80% of it in the US is produced through "steam methane reformation" (I've seen numbers as low as 50% and as high as 95%, and I'm not an expert so do your own research.) That's a process in which natural gas (a hydrocarbon) is processed and turned into Hydrogen and Carbon Monoxide. Seems a little less "green" when you bring that fact to the conversation.
🎶The more you know🎶
You can also produce it using electricity, even with on-site generation... problem is it takes quite a large amount of electricity to do so, and you have the problem of storage, so... yeah
Is this car built on the Prius chassis?
I honestly don't know if I'd want a Hydrogen car, but this Mirai looks amazing.
You would only want a hydrogen car if you lived in Socal would probably be complicated to get hydrogen anywhere else, other than a few other cities
In the video the most important thing about the hydrogen fuel car was omitted: PRICE! I’m assuming that it’s a very expensive vehicle and that the government would give the owner a substantial rebate.
Rear prius front corolla
Toyota quality is a thing is the past. My 2019 Camry dash split in two and oh yeah, the transmission went out. Needless to say I traded that in earlier this year for a non-toyota vehicle and couldn't be happier.
Because the Camry are now build in the US. Made in USA is worst than Made in China if you want quality and reliability make sure it say Made in Japan
If Toyota is now apparently unreliable then how are any other brand more reliable
@@the_random9718 He's just an heathen. Don't listen to him, rather, have faith in our Lord and Savior, Toyota. Through Toyota, we are blessed with absolute perfection made in his image. Those who don't worship at the tires of Toyota will be smitten with neverending repairs. Those who reject Toyota are not only stupid, but also horrible evil people. No car other than Toyota will see 50,000 Miles.
That, or maybe Toyota dropped the ball in the early 00's and started to cheap out. At the same time, other makers have improved their reliability and met Toyota in the middle. As a general rule of thumb, don't buy an car just because of the brand's overall reputation. Rather, look at the particular model and drivetrains history of reliability. For example, a Ford Focus with the DSG is an absolutely horrible car, but a Ford Focus with a standard transmission is a above average reliable car. A second gen Ford Fusion with the 1.5 has horrible reliability thanks to the engine, but a second gen Fusion Hybrid is one of the most reliable cars on the road. Toyota has made some horrible cars, as have all other manufacturers.
@@OhPhuckYouamen well said sir
Do you have to dump the water every so often or does it do it automatically?
It will do it on its own but could also require you to push a button to do it.
It does so automatically. The button is just there for you to purge the H2O tank outside before you park it in a garage or something.
As a trombone player, I appreciate that it has a water purge button.
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So funny, my last Uber driver had a Mirai and raved about it…that is what drove me to your video lol. Guess he’s keeping it on the down low. It was amazing, felt equivalent to the bmw I’d ridden in prior to and better than a Tesla comfort wise as someone rehabbing from injuries after a crash. I’m kinda tempted! Being bicoastal
It actually could work for me, living between east and west coast bec I could just have the Mirai in L.A. as needed when working and let it rest when I’m away. It seems worthwhile but do you feel it’s best to go through a Toyota dealership or do you feel a private seller or other reliable dealership is still worth it without the gas credits?
My experience at the Toyota dealer was AOK.
@@toninapoli3317 how do you feel about ownership given all the controversy? Prices are dropping soooooooooo low
@@MB-Music23 u mean as an owner? I am proud to drive such a stunning car and love the fact that it’s quite unique here in Los Angeles where there are so many beautiful cars. Today I did some driving and couldn’t be happier with my purchase. Fast lane access here is PRICELESS! No emissions a definite plus. Comfort beyond what I expected and such an intelligent car! 5 stars!!
@@toninapoli3317 thank you for your honest feedback, this is so helpful! Honestly! Please forgive me additional inquisitions and lack of brevity in advance…I am have been back and forth with myself for months and my time to ponder is running down. The biggest concern I am hearing about is access to hydrogen stations bec of either malfunctioning stations or what seems to be relayed as ridiculous waiting times that are causing people problems (getting to work on time, appointments, trying to find stations that work properly, etc). The other issue I hear besides reasonable access and time spent fueling, especially in the event of an emergency are some buyers second guessing their purchase due to berh high costs of hydrogen fuel. Did you find the prices spiked like gas over this year before they all leveled? I have heard some saying they didn’t feel the wait time at stations plus the cost of fueling was worth it.
Also, I realize you can only travel to very few states in those cars, but it sounds like none of these things have been a big issue for you! I really want to be wise ahead of a purchase. I travel alot between Atlanta and CA (I’m in SFV but would like to move south to the OC) so shipping a vehicle back and forth to Atlanta becomes the norm sometimes if I’m away on an entertainment project for longer extended periods of time. Obviously there’s no fuel cell stations in the southeast. I’d rather have one car on the west coast, between filming projects bec there’s times I have to pop back to LA for other affairs or work stuff and then leave after a week or two again it’s crazy. The Mirai’s pricing is dropping so rapidly now it would be nothing to pick one up, and a super low car note if not all cash, but I’m also wondering… if they will resell easily or if they will be a liability to eventually resell for any reason. In terms of purchasing, I was told to stick to Toyota dealerships for the fuel card…of course, dealership price tags will be much steeper than other used dealers-is this worth it or even needed? Any take navigating the fuel
access issues people keep speaking of would be helpful! It’s so peculiar to me the staunch polarity of those who love it and those who regret their purchases.
@@toninapoli3317can i ask how often do you fill up and is it at a regular gas station? thank you!
I grew up thinking of tachometers are the the zenith of automotive prestige. And for that I despise electric-powered cars.
Why aren’t all the brands forced to produce such cars? Instead of polluting the air
Is there anybody building DIY fueling device for FCV yet ❓
Why the actual fuck do I feel like cálifonia took all of the cars we never seen cause I forgot this existed
Time to find an rx8 hydrogen re
They would be good if you didn't have to worry about exploding during a crash.
fuel stations main business is actually the groceries. But more importantly, those stations also have electric grid connection. Why argue everyone should use extremely expensive stations and fuel that also inherits a lot of losses. Why not turn traditional fuel station into charging station?
14:50 upgrade it? Its such a weak argument because to create the hydrogen you need much, much more electricity. So if you cant supply the regular grid, you wont even be able to make hydrogen
I don't think the wipers are heated xd. It's just the windshield.
Personally I think the interior looks awful / cheap. Though I like the tech. I would never buy a Mirai just because of the interior
The new one looks waaaay better! Not a prius anymore....
@@theadvocate4698 yeah, maybe with the white interior option.
California update, Hydro up to $36 a Kg lol ....
I wonder, now, if a plug in hydrogen would be the ultimate electric vehicle...
Great idea!
Mercedes did that with the glc, but you could only lease it as a company
@@hsvcommodore4111
Did it work well, or was it a bust?
@@danielhill3112 I don't think they sold a lot
I have thoughts on Hydrogen FCV's but I'll just copy and paste what I wrote somewhere else:
I think Hydrogen makes a lot of sense in commercial industries like heavy duty trucks and the like, but.... Hydrogen is just kinda dumb to use in a private passenger car honestly. You need a decent bit of natural gas or a large amount of electricity to make it, then you need to transport it, then you need a station, then you put it into your car, and the reaction of hydrogen mixing with oxygen creating water gives you electricity which drives an electric motor.... which seems like a really roundabout way of just putting electricity in your car. The tanks in hydrogen cars do slowly leak simply due to the fact that there is no material on earth that can contain hydrogen for any length of time without it just leaking out, and these tanks (both in the car and the station) need replacement after so many refills. And Hydrogen FCEV's don't have the energy potential that any kinda battery has, so they're all kinda slow relative to their BEV counterparts.
If you use hydrogen in an ICE, you get like 60-75% of the horsepower that you would just running it on gas, you still produce NOx (which the EPA absolutely hates) so you'd still need some kinda emissions BS, and hydrogen ICE's get terrible efficiency, so you'd have to burn nearly if not more than twice the amount of fuel you would just using gasoline... and hydrogen ain't cheap.
And finally you have the infrastructure problem. You can't simply convert an existing gas station to a hydrogen station, all of the equipment is 100% different. You need a complicated pumping system, multiple tanks to store hydrogen at different pressure levels and it'll feed from each tank slowly into the car in stages. On top of this, hydrogen as a liquid is extremely cold and at a very high pressure, it's not uncommon to see the lines to the pump nozzle get frozen when filling your car. Plus, the pump needs a cooldown time between refilling cars, so you can't just have one person pull in behind the other and start filling instantly. Having used one of these stations IRL during a visit to Cali, filling the vehicle still takes like 10 minutes honestly, and modern higher-end EV's can do it in 15-20 with a DCFC, so there's really not even a speed advantage imho. And that gap is only going to decrease as tech progresses
Will Hydrogen FCV's live on in commercial industry or niche use cases? Yes, and I think it makes a lot of sense for those. Do they make sense for regular passenger cars? Not at all imho
These are really cool. I've always thought that hydrogen is the fuel of the future, not pure battery-electric. Unfortunately hydrogen has seen very little development and it's too late at this point. Refuel times comparable to gasoline, can be generated onsite, and if a nationwide fueling infrastructure was built it would be just like gas. These were only sold in SoCal because there are only a few hydrogen stations in the country and most of those few are in SoCal. Toyota gave buyers a prepaid card for ~36,000 miles of hydrogen. Right now, hydrogen would be great for fleet vehicles that return to a certain place every night. Hydrogen is power-intensive to make but solar panels and mini-wind turbines could work on a local scale.
One of these came by my university on the East Coast for people to look at but I didn't find out about it until after it left. My university had four hydrogen buses that reportedly worked very well. Unfortunately, the garage burned down with them inside (not hydrogen related) before I got a chance to ride one. They didn't run them often, they were mostly demonstrator and research vehicles.
Toyota's ultrafuturistic style on this and the Prius has grown on me. Still not beautiful but striking for sure. The shifter Priuses have always used is nice, it's just a little flick to change gears.
$50 to go 200+ miles? Thats worse then a regular car. Who would buy this?
the only reason EVs took off the way they did is Tesla and Elon Musk that's it I honestly believe this is better tech and easier to live with then an EV
They'd do a little better if they didn't look so goofy. Oh and the hydrogen thing doesn't help.
Yes 12 per kilogram was good at that time. I have a Mirai and now hydrogen is 36 dollars per kilogram. I really hope the price comes down soon.
Where do u live???
$36 per kilogram and full tank is $135
That thing is uglier than an Aztek sheesh.
That's the first generation. And the styling is weird. But the second one changed in a good way.
@@1985toyotacamry yea the new mirai kind of looks like a Lexus
Anybody else think that meur-i is the wrong way to pronunce mirai