A New Star Wars Saga
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- čas přidán 4. 10. 2023
- Discussing the possibility of an entirely new Star Wars saga. Join me for some morning coffee!
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To me, that feels like what James Mangold’s film could be the start of. It's millennia apart from everything else and will, by necessity, focus on new characters, technology, mostly new worlds etc.
Honestly, I'm kinda looking forward to that.
As much as I love the old stuff, and bringing it back up, it's nice to have entirely new stuff, too
That's what I was thinking!
I hope so! I think the Filoni movie will more or less wrap up what we’ve been seeing for a bit, and then the Mangold movie will start the new age (the Rey movie obviously won’t ever actually get made)
@@nairrdlairrd I think that, if anything, that Mangold’s film is the least likely to actually happen as he is attached to multiple other projects in the next few years.
Dave Filoni’s is the most likely to actually happen to and the New Jedi Order film has a writer, director and Daisy Ridley locked in. I certainly hope that Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy's film is made.
I have the opposite idea here. If there’s ANYTHING I want from James Mangold’s Dawn of the Jedi is for it to be ONE BIG “biblical epic” with no opportunities for sequels or spinoffs or any of that. But of course, to each their own… 😅
I think we all forget how bold Mando was at the time. It wasn't Boba Fett or anyone else we knew, and the main character didn't have a face for 99% of the show. Plus, it was pretty well executed. My dream SW project at this point would be to get that kind of bold, fun, new(ish) setting and style with the overall quality of Andor. Get us away from what we're comfortable with and make it really good to bring everyone back to SW.
I just want to see you take a sip from that cup of coffee with that stormtrooper helmet on.
I saw one video from years ago and he was drinking Maxwell House. Disgusting.
Yeah, just like Dark Helmet from Space Balls. I'd love to see that too! :D
Tahiri Veila when?
I've been thinking that for quite a while. At some point, Star Wars will have to move on. Go 200 years into the future and begin a new saga. StarWars will have to do that to remain relevant. I just don't know if we have reached that point yet. Despite the internet shouting it from the rooftops in the last 5 years, Star Wars isn't dead. Star Wars has probably never been quite as alive at it is today. At the moment, StarWars still finds ways, in my opinion, to do interesting, kind of brave stuff. Look at Andor, The Mandalorian, The Acolyte. I feel they are still pushing to do stuff that's not safe, they're still taking risks. And when you look at what's happening to original sci-fi movies at the moment like The Creator, I don't think studios are given insentive to jump into the unknown. So Lucasfilm has no real reason to take that risk yet.
I remember seeing this fan made Episode 7 trailer way back in like 2012-2014 that had someone digging up a frozen and buried C-3PO, he seemed to be framed almost like a long-lost ancient technology at this point. I think a trilogy set in the far future could be really cool. Especially if they're bold with it.
I am so ready for Star Wars to evolve beyond the Skywalker saga and do something completely new. For such a vast galaxy with so much possibilities, they just keep bringing in the same legacy characters that feels like pandering to fans a bit too much. The Last Jedi tried to be original and that was the last time Star Wars dared to go against the grain, I wish they would try something new. Best I can hope for is Mangold’s project and maybe if Rian Johnson returns to do one more movie after finishing with his Benoit Blanc films
If the Skywalker Saga was the tale of how governments and societies fail, that was definitely George's conception of it, then I think it would be most rewarding for the post-sequel stories to be about how governments and societies succeed. That this era would be about successfully building a New Jedi Order and a New Republic that held, breaking the cycles of chaos, at least for a time
Aa much as I enjoy the first two sequel films, I admit that this is what the sequels should have been. I love the Last Jedi's concept of failure. I feel that entire trilogy could go deeper into that.
To be fair, the Republic and Jedi kept the peace for a thousand generations (although the Acolyte seems to be changing this). Remember we only see the Jedi Order during the prequels, which is set in the "Fall of the Jedi" era where we see them ultimately fail. But yes, I hope that the new saga shows the New Jedi Order and the New New Republic succeeding. But isn't that hard to do because you need the bad guys to successfully hit them so there's a story?
I like what you're getting at. A timeline where the revolutions succeeded and now they've formed a functional democratic united federation of planets. An era where the protagonists' adventures come from voyages exploring strange new worlds seeking out new life and new civilizations; boldly going where no one has gone before.
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I agree, and I think we will see this in the coming years. If not in Star Wars, then more generally in pop culture. Historically, when we've been progressing and developing as a society, art and literature has always been reflective and critical - and vice versa; when the future is looking bleak and we are backpedalling (like the US currently), we seek hope, inspiration and cherish the good in our art.
I agree with/am interested in every idea proposed in this string of comments, and I felt the need to mention that this is one of the most civil, thoughtful interactions I've ever seen in a CZcams comment section.
I feel like you’re the only CZcamsr who talks and thinks positively about Star Wars anymore. I salute you sir
@@cyberpup2246too far the other way 😂
@@cyberpup2246 I’m not familiar! I’ll check him out
@@cyberpup2246I don't even think he's disgruntled.
@@cyberpup2246 uhh, nothing. Just saying that Alex from SWE is generally positive.
@@cyberpup2246 no worries
I wouldn’t mind Rey’s new story being Jedi just keeping the peace. Something akin to Seven Samurai where the Jedi are defending people from smaller threats.
I really like your idea. Star Wars was originally born from inspiration taken from Akira Kurosawa's samurai films, so it would be nice to see the franchise come full-circle and embrace the samurai-cinema influence once again.
I haven't actually read them, but everything I've heard about the High Republic novels and comics seems to indicate such a premise. There were also some stories set a few years prior to The Phantom Menace in Legends that depicted the Jedi and Republic Judicial Forces putting an end to localized conflicts like the Stark Hyperspace War and Yinchorri Uprising before they could spread and cause a larger galactic war.
As long as it is not a reboot or remake or anything like that, I’d be cool with it.
Why cannot reboot? Disney star wars is trash except for Ashoka and mandor
@@DJNicShogun no, it's not trash so no reboot, sry. 🤷♂
WTF are you even saying? Star Wars NEEDS a reboot URGENTLY. What the hell are you even saying? Freaking fans, really.
@@mochimitsu7 I'm telling you the TRUTH, like I'm telling you the TRUTH! 😆
@@marcelluslongus1202 Your truth. You're the reason this franchise is so mediocre nowadays (or always, tbh).
Thanks for the shout out! @1:18
This is a weird phenomenon with Star Wars.
The fans want new, they get it, they hate it.
The fans want the same, they get it, they hate it.
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we want good idc if its past present or new
Maybe disney should do something good then
@@Material_MonkeyAnd herein lies the rub. It seems nothing is ever good enough for some people. When people say they want good content, they never really specify what they're looking for. It seems to me that they don't even know what they want, they just look at anything in the modern SW era and just go "No, I don't want that." Well then what DO you want? And be specific just beyond "better writing/directing". Like, what does that even mean?
Perhaps this new and distant unexplored galaxy that Ahsoka is in can be the foundation of a new saga?
That’s what I’m hoping….I feel like they could really take it someplace new….but I have a feeling it’s not gonna be as interesting as we hope….we’ll see
I'm game for a new story with Rey. Finn too, but I don't think that'll happen until Boyega gets a raise and a contract stating that Finn is treated with care instead of an afterthought.
Said no one ever 😂
apart from the fact they just said it, you're denial is like that of a child's@@dancingvalkyrie
@@bt3743 actually they have a point. John Boyega would not, should not, stop at that. He should get a dump truck amount of cash and that contract written in blood.
Ah yes so because the actor moaned about what they did with his character in the story they should bent over backwards for him
Beats me why this guy wants to see a reappearance of Rey and Finn. Or maybe I didn't get that the comment was a joke?
The High Republic is currently scratching that itch for me. A big planned out series and completely new characters. They're just books, not movies.
Same here I haven't read everything but it seems to be a nice mix of planning/coordination and some individual authors freedom. But I guess it's easier to do that with books than movies.
High republic is too close to the phantom menace had potential to show yoda mace qui gon count dooku plagues palpatine etc etc but they didn't. I don't even want old republic what I want after Ahsoka NOW is dawn of the jedi. And who are the night sisters and their origins and how hyperspace travel was invented etc etc
@@TheCjHEntertainment_Plus I don't really understand your comment, you say that it is too close to what we know, but are also disappointed that it doesn't show characters that won't be born for over century?
@@baloe48 because high republic was supposed to be close to phantom menace, old republic was further out
I really want an old republic/ high republic saga.
Please dont mix High trash whit Old Republic
HelloGreedo is probably the best Star Wars content creator out there
He and Star Wars Explained are the two channels that I consistently enjoy watching
I like evannova95. You might dislike him, but his videos were my introduction to non theatrical Star Wars content. I had no idea the Star Wars world was so fleshed out, at least in legends.
I think you guys would also enjoy SkyForge and EC Henry. 👌
Aside from Greedo, Eckharts ladder and Stupendouswave are the top 3 star wrs channels I always come back to. Especially HelloGreedo, been a big part of my time through high school
Not at all. He fell off in 2018 and the content has become boring.
Coming from a Sequel critic-turned-apprecator, here's some suggestions: a sequel Saga that delves much deeper into Star Wars lore, perhaps Rey learning more about the history of the entire Jedi Order, the Mortis Gods and exploring the contents of the Sacred Texts. Another thing I would love to see is more expansion on Finn and his force sensitivity (implied in TROS). Honestly, there's so much potential to be had.
My only fear is the whole toxic Fandom Menace backlash thing. So many genuinely talented people might be turned off from working with Lucasfilm again after what they had to deal with. I genuinely enjoyed Daisy and John's performances and want to see more risky, experimental projects like TLJ and Andor. Hopefully, the next wave of films will be a better experience for the returning and new actors.
Edit: I also hope that the next generation of Star Wars fans finally breaks the chain of what I like to call 'fandom generational trauma'. It happened to a lot of us then-younger fans with the Prequels and we ended up doing the same thing with the Sequels...
i wish for something entirely new, since we already heading into other galaxies, why not create something from scratch but maintaining the themes and concepts, like the force, light and dark, etc
I want a story about Sifo Dyas! He is the most mysterious Jedi, I want to finally see his story. It would be really cool
Some things can just stay a mystery, plus he isn't really that mysterious
No more going back to past characters. We need to start fresh.
Can't do that unless it's animated because of count dooku
Maybe the Dawn of The Jedi film could be a starting point for a new saga.
Could be
ppl keep talking abt wanting something new as I sit over here with my High Republic novels, comics and audiodramas with completely new characters and era:
Quick post-sequel worldbuilding wish list: No rebuilt Republic, but mostly small to medium sized galactic powers. Droid rights being a significantly high stake conflict. No Sith at all but only Dark Jedi or neo-Inquisitors.
That's one of the things I love about the Visions miniseries - it just makes the universe seem a lot bigger with all of these different stories with different characters and planets and tones and cultures and content all based off of the very basic building blocks of Star Wars.
Doesn't matter what they do. Everyone's just gonna hate it anyway. It's always the same pattern with post-Original Trilogy stuff:
Star Wars film series or show comes out and is *_THE MOST HATED THING EVER MADE IN HUMAN HISTORY,_* then a new Star Wars trilogy or show comes out a decade later and becomes the *_NEW_* most hated thing ever made while the old hated stuff is deemed by meme culture to be the greatest achievement in human history and that becomes the new popular opinion. And then the cycle happens again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And aga- okay, you've probably got the point.
Something I've wanted (and experimented with) is them taking Star Wars hundreds of years later. Now, that doesn't mean it has to be completely separate from the Skywalker Saga. I'd want them to include characters like Vader and Luke, to act as a dichotomy of the good and evil, and how that evil is redeemed. Somewhat like Avatar (without the inherited powers), where Luke and Vader reveal themselves to a Jedi and shadow them, teaching them and preparing them to fight the next big fight. Its not really that I want to tie us down to the original trilogy with this, but I think that link, the influence of the Skywalkers, is always felt in Star Wars.
Lucasfilm should do a new saga and then straight up refuse to acknowledge if it’s set before or after the original trilogy saga.
Point being the history of this galaxy should be so long that it’s possible to have a full saga set in it that’s completely unrelated to anything else we’ve seen.
Oh and I know who they should get to direct it, and good news for everyone is they already announced it 😅
The galaxy far far away is an infinitely huge place with infinite history and an infinite future - I'm totally on board with another saga with liitle or no ties with the skywalker saga, in the ancient past or far future. I do however think that the force should still be present in some form as that to me is the magic, the secret indefinable sauce, and heart and soul of Star Wars. Without the force, we just have big effects, laserguns and spaceships.
The High Republic Era. It's more or less everything you're asking for. There's familiar elements, some known characters and locations. But, it's also uncharted territory. I'm hoping that the seeds they've been planting in this new era begin showing up in live action.
It would be fun to have a saga set hundreds of years after the Skywalker Saga. Maybe the original events can be mentioned kinda how we talk the Roman Empire, something almost of legend
This is what I want too.
Did you play Jedi Fallen Order and Jedi Survivor? What do you think of them?
Are you excited for Star Wars Outlaws?
It would be super fun to see a video from you on Outlaws gameplay showcase and hear your impressions (maybe you already did? )
‘I don’t care how big your Star Wars internet ego is. Don’t get mad. My ideas suck too. I just don’t pretend that they’re good.’
Quote of the year.
*don't pretend
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I hope the new saga takes us back in time to maybe The Old Republic era, give us a trilogy about Tarre Vizsla during the Mandalorian Wars and him being caught between two worlds with him being a Jedi and at war against his own people. I think that would be pretty compelling.
The 9 film Skywalker saga explored the generational conflicts of the Skywalkers vs Palpatines, Sith vs Jedi, Democracies vs Dictactorships.
We now need to explore other elements, new villains, new families, new religions and governments. I think that going to explore other galaxies, the unknown regions, the more cosmic and espiritual aspects of the force is the path to achieving that.
Coff Coff.... 6 ... Rey is not a Skywalker
@@RicardoSanchez-ld9qt She is. If you don't like it, that's entirely up to you.
This is where I hope they go into the past. I think it would be cool to see the story of unique and ancient forces that are dissconcted but lead into the skywalks saga
I would love to jump maybe 50-100 years after new jedi order. Jedi are established again but take some cues from legends where anyone can be a jedi now and have their own side things going on rather than all being stoic monks. Also just entirely new factions, threats, aesthetics and more to dig into.
My problem with the sequels was it looked way too much like the original trilogy, we still had X wings, tie fighters, empire 2.0, rebels 2.0, yet another jedi purge back to back with the previous one and its just tiring to see the same conflict recycling non stop, why I loved stuff like KOTOR or legacy era in the old canon because they moved away from being stuck in the same era with the same factions and ship types.
I'm with you , i want something in a Different age, 'Medieval' times 5000bby. I also thought it'd be cool to have a Goonies type adventure set in the Future where they find a Relic from the Skywalker era that puts them on a journey.
However i'd still love a Darth Plagueis Novel adaptation, I't would be a great mini series that ends during the Phantom Menace. Tom Hiddelston would be a great young Sheev Palpatine & a Shakespearian style Actor For Darth Plagueis to act along with Tom, would definitely be engaging to watch.
I think Disney just needs to put out more experimental movies in different eras and between the acolyte, Rey’s Jedi order, and the first Jedi movie it looks like they’re aiming to do so, I think they know that these eras are getting stale.
Honestly the high Republic era would be perfect for this imo, whether it be connected to the books for not
I want to see the Dawn of the Jedi era become a full saga. The first trilogy deals with the discovery of the Force 25,000 years BBY with the third film showcasing the first use of the Dark Side. The second trilogy deals with the suppression of Force worship in the aftermath of the Dark Side incident, with a sort of major "hallelujah" moment that converts much of the galaxy to believing and quantifying it's existence. The third trilogy deals with the split between light and dark as the final film forges the first true "Jedi Knights" and the first true "Sith Lords".
This. This is what i want! maybe add in the Rakata, Zeffo or maybe the Yuuzhan Vong to the mix.
I agree with you 100% so don't get me wrong. I think a lot of people just feel let down with some of the series we have gotten. Like people wanted more Boba Fett, but his show ended up being disappointing to a lot of fans. People want Luke Skywalker, but all he gets are weird cameos in tangentially-related shows instead of a dedicated series. I also think the other problem is that people have been fantasizing about these characters for over ten years now. Our imaginations have been bursting with creative energy for years, decades in the case of the OT cast, and expectations are so much higher now, that, unless a series is really well-written and well-made, it's inevitably going to disappoint at least some because it won't live up to those (potentially unrealistic/unfeasible) standards.
If they do make a new saga all together, it should be in a different galaxy, like the one that was just set up in Ashoka. A COMPLETE fresh start. No Jedi, no sith, no empire, we set up new characters on a new quest with new factions. We can have something similar to the Jedi, i mean the force still exists. Maybe “Jedi” and magic in other galaxies are completely different. There’s a lot to create without the restrictions of lore in the main galaxy.
I’d love to see something new, especially if it’s set in the old republic. Like medieval Star Wars would be awesome. But I also think people are way too triggered by seeing repeat characters in Star Wars. Sometimes you just like to see what you know. It’s like coffee do you get sick of coffee maybe you’ll switch it up and get a different brand or maybe get a late for a change, but you don’t just quit coffee because it’s just the same thing over and over.
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maybe something really ancient with the Jedi . Kind of an origins ? Go back several thousand years ?
We are already getting that with the upcoming dawn of the Jedi movie that's set 25,000 years before the main saga
So at 03:00 you mention about wanting more of the same gets boring. I really agree on this. BUT i will also say there are some things we need more of because what we originally got was not good enough.
Hayden played Anakin as well as he could with what he was given, but clone wars (anime) made his character so much better, so when hayden again played him, he could play him in a new way that felt SO much better, and i want more of that.
Luke and Obi Wan i felt got great character in the prequels (for obi wan) and main movies. But i feel like they destroyed lukes character in episode 8 and that pissed me off a lot.
So i think its more that we need new, but we also like to see the old done right.
Also a lot of new with a bit of old will help introduce the new :)
Honestly, I want to see everyone get something they love. A new and creative project for this canon, resume the old EU timeline, and even throw us a bone and make George's sequels as animated films or comics or novels. All in different continuities or timelines.
I know some people hate the idea. I used to. But at least then the people who love certain continuities or canons get what they want. Some people will never give the new canon another chance and some people will find plenty new/old content to enjoy from that
I like the idea of starting a Saga based that focuses on Mandalor and the new Jedi. If the new Jedi counsel or whatever is formed after the Skywalker Saga, what if Madalor has already got it's own Force allegiance. They had long reclaimed the planet before the new republic even fell and because of Grogu, or the new introduction of Sabine's place in the force, what if the Mandalorians created a new order of force users within their own ranks. What if the Mythasaur is a Bendu that existed on Mandalore, if the Bendu in rebels spoke of peace and being in the middle, what if there is a Bendu that is in the middle and of balanced in times of change and war. The force isn't Dark and Light but Change and Chaos vs Peace and Order. The true light is the acceptance of both, the true dark is the rejection of any one of those things?
No ties to the past. No skywalkers, palpatines, etc.
I actually disagree. I think that Star Wars can take the franchise in new directions and introduce new characters by building off of what we have now rather than starting with a clean slate. I'd argue they should stay in the episodes 1-9 timeline and use some existing characters but explore new corners and conflicts within the galaxy. It's a big now multi galaxy universe with various factions, locations, and stories to tell and I don't think you have to fully separate from what came before to tell new stories.
It's a story on galactic scale. There's other stuff happening too, besides the Skywalkers. Doesn't matter what time period you choose, there's unlimited potential for all kinds of stories in different genres.
Agree with your take on SW fans always wanted to see reoccurring characters. Don't get me wrong, I do love me a good Anakin cameo. I think that's cause we really haven't gotten any Anakin content. So it feels fresh right now.
But I can't stand the "Oh let's reanimate Maul or Dooku so they're the big baddie in the Ahsoka season finale" type dialogue. Like what??
Baylan is a perfect example of a new character breathing fresh air into the SW universe. Shin too. Bring us more different and dynamic characters!
And is why people thought TFA was the same as ANH
The old republic! (If done right). The cinematics from that game are amazing. Or as you said, just something brand new (no ties) in a galaxy far away. Thats what i would like.
I get where your head is with Star Wars constantly circling the same characters. But why can’t we have both old and new? The Star Wars canon is massive and sprawls thousands of years.
I want cal kestis. The jedi games are fucking good man. Story is amazing
Not sure how you could without tying it to more of Empire vs Rebels, Jedi vs Sith...
I want the saga to be 3000 years in the future, no jedi, no sith, the republic and the empire mostly forgotten history at that point. Start in medias res with Episode 4. Maybe have galactic civilization have collapsed by that point, everything sort of reverted to planets vs planets, have some existential threat from another galaxy encroaching, idk. Game of Thrones but in space, and picking up right after the red wedding. I don’t care if not as many people are interested up front. If it’s a good sandbox, a new fanbase can be built in no time.
I agree. I am ready to move on. It's why Rian Johnsons trilogy in another part of the galaxy with new characters sounded so interesting to me. I am kinda tired of empire and stormtroopers and feel they have told most of the stories they can with it.
I agree with you👍
Agreed 100%
Personally, I'd also love to a see a saga set in the Old Republic or High Republic
Personally, I think interconnecting stories were part of the reason I lost interest in the Post-ROTJ era of the Star Wars Legends books I read ("New Jedi Order" to "Crucible"). It was obvious you could not pick up a book at random and have a sense of everything that happened because of what came before, especially when old plot threads from books prior to "New Jedi Order" were used to form subplots to tie up loose ends.
It is perhaps the biggest problem I had with the "Ahsoka" series: you could only care about Ahsoka in that series if you saw "The Clone Wars" and "Rebels" shows prior (which is shocking, because the show did a great job of introducing other animated characters so that the audience could connect without such background knowledge). And even then, the only importance of Ahsoka as a character was that she was connected to Anakin Skywalker, a relationship which quite frankly, was completely unnecessary to know about in the grand scheme of the saga. Furthermore, her series felt like it ended in the middle of a story, leaving far too many loose ends to justify it as a stand-alone project (Baylan's plot thread might be completely useless, despite all the build-up it received, unless a character like Shin picks up where he left off. RIP Ray Stevenson.)
What fun is it being a fan of something if you have to do all your homework and research to enjoy a story?
For instance, making "The Book of Boba Fett" a stand-alone series is a jarring experience because it has "Mando Season 2.5" intersected in it. If a casual viewer did not do their research, they wouldn't know they were supposed to watch two entire seasons of a separate show to get what was going on.
While I admittedly do want to see one more project with Rey, I also recognize that the door is open to go anywhere. So why is it that instead of always foraging forward, "Star Wars" tends to want to fill in the gaps between projects? As long as we are stuck between Episodes I-9, we can't really get anywhere. Which is why I am hopeful for the Rey movie or projects like "The Acolyte"; either of those would not be fill-the-gap side stories with unexpected, yet familiar cameos (looking at you "Mando Season 2") but instead be able to take risks to bring change (shows like "ANDOR", but with completely new characters rather than recycled ones).
6 movies and 3 character assassination fan films
This is exactly why I want that trilogy from Rian Johnson. But alas...
A new Saga set in the Old Republic, that's the dream
Maybe go back a few hundred years before Revan.
I just want them to do an old republic saga. Have the mangold movie be the start of it.
Mangolds movie is set 24000 years before the republic is even founded and recently it was confirmed that the term "old republic" does not refer to an older version of the republic but rather the earliest days of the republic just after it's founding.
I'm completely down as long as it's a Saga of Films released in theaters.
Star Wars needs to return to being a cinematic experience
I agree, although the success of it would depend on the writing. The ST has great moments - particularly TFA - but the writers were seemingly at odds, so the outcome is a mess. The PT has its moments but there is some abysmal dialogue and questionable characterisation that ruins them. Imagine the prequels written and directed in the style of Andor or Mando 1 & 2.
How many times do you want Batman?
I'm hoping with Lucasfilm setting out the titles for the eras on the timeline, we get them fleshed out. I do really want an Old Republic series of movies but I feel like they'd need to do something fresh with it and you just know that one end of the fandom will despise it if it isn't a shot-for-shot remake
The biggest issue with SW is it's refusal to let go of the past, and unfortunately a large vocal majority of the fanbase is very much to blame for this, crying and screaming when it's not their way. Some of the best, greatest SW media was done not pandering and adhering to fans - TESB, the prequels, TLJ, Andor - the backlash was high but they worked because they were doing something fresh and new. Lucas was lambasted for making the prequels different, so much that he moved completely away - and now they're loved by a huge generation. SW has got to do fresh new things, and not bow down to a fanbase that will always be critical. Do what's right for the story, not what fans want (and let's face it, most fan ideas suck). As long as the story and direction/ideas are good it'll always be a success, and right now they've got to create some fresh new stories with new characters and not keep remixing the same old for a group of people who always want the same thing
Go way in the future where jedi and the force are forgotten and have someone stumble on it by accident. Then they could learn the history of light and dark side and have that choice of should we make this knowledge known or bury it to keep it out of the wrong hands. New characters but could keep the same lore
When I had my podcast, I kept saying over and over how Star Wars needs to grow beyond the Skywalkers in order to remain relevant. But does Lucasfilm and moreover, Disney have the guts for that? We know the Skywalker saga and its iconography pulls in all the people in all the demographics. It's a license to print money, and I don't know if the powers that be have the nerve to deviate from that.
Starting fresh may be good for some of us (me included), but by doing so does Star Wars "lose" its competitive edge by stripping away the things people love about the franchise? Sure you can still have spaceships and lightsabers and the Force, but on their own, they are only a part of what makes SW special. Competition is fierce and Star Wars is now "one of many" options audiences have to choose from. The thing that makes Star Wars unique and special in the minds of most fans (I think) is the characters and the unexplored lore surrounding those characters. Take those away and does Star Wars become a generic franchise? Also, what happens when the die-hard fans get OLD? The 1st generation of fans is now well into their 50's. Prequel era kids are now in their 30's and pushing 40. Younger generations get to fragment their time, love, and money among Marvel, DC, and countless other franchises that SW didn't have to really deal with until relatively recently. There's only so long for Lucasfilm and Disney to milk old bank accounts and eyeballs before they become passive, less invested in the franchise, and morph into a casual (read: non-paying) fan.
So yeah, do the "right" thing and make Star Wars fresh again. At least try. But I think the day of SW being the box office beast is done.
While it isn't a new saga as in it's _entirely_ new and may not span multiple decades, I think it could be argued that the Mandoverse is our new saga after The Skywalker Saga.
It doesn't feature a Skywalker as one of the main characters, and it already has and will continue span multiple, interconnected serieses (some with multiple seasons) and at least one film to (presumably) tie all of them together
I would argue it does feature a Skywalker that being Ashoka who let's be honest here both Anakin and Padme thought of as family.
It’d be cool to have a saga with a few previous characters and attatchments but the saga starts like 800-1’000 years after The Skywalker Saga. You can have Grogu leading the Jedi Order that Rey refounded centuries prior. But also loads of new characters and an entire new era pushing the saga forward
I already feel as though Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni’s New Republic Era is already the new Star Wars Saga, but I understand wanting to see a new saga unfold in the big screen. I was personally thinking that after Filoni’s movie, we would finally get Rian Johnson’s Star Wars trilogy and that would be its own saga. That being said, I have no problem with Rey’s movie leading into a new saga. A new Jedi Order could lend itself well into the concept that could go beyond just Rey. But we’ll see. There’s a lot of things regarding the movies that’s up in the air since TROS left a bad taste in people’s mouths.
All I want is my EU back.
I want a new saga from a new franchise
Star Wars will always be confined to certain parameters. They'll always be about good vs. evil, jedi vs. sith, someone's fall and redemption etc. I love star wars but another trilogy would just be more of the same except for the new characters and planets.
“Let the past die. Kill it…if you have to.”
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I just want new actors for Luke and Leia so they can be in these new shows every once in a while.
No. Just no. No more fucking recastings and fan pandering. We had luke and leia's trilogy, it's done. move on. Try something completely new for once
@@bt3743 I'm talking about for stuff like Ahsoka, Fett, and Mando. Those characters are important characters during that time.
I'm not talking about new stuff focusing on them. The CGI stuff isn't good.
I want them to move forward from these characters and era. Set it in the future a thousand years later if needed. And any new dynamic besides the big bad empire vs the plucky rebellion. A galaxy is huge, star wars lately feels small to me.
I wanna see new alien races new planets new ship designs. Move away from the axe wing have something new and interesting looking. Get away from the 70s style aliens and create something New and exciting have a main character be a really cool looking alien. But that's just my opinion
Just some one-off movies please.
I'm all saga'd out, lol.
I agree that we need a new saga, but I don’t love the idea of doing the next Jedi Order with Rey (and I like Rey). I think it should be a saga in the deep past of the Star Wars galaxy. And we should be able to feel the history: it should be as alien to the era we know as our deep past is to us. The obvious answer is to do something with the Prime Jedi. Make the Known Galaxy much smaller. Show the nascent stages of Galactic civilization. If we want different, daring, and inventive, then let’s really go for it.
A new Saga that has little to do with what we know should not start with Rey if that's truly what you want. A new Saga has to be thousands of years in the past or hundred of years in the future for things to feel like they have stakes once again. You need to let the universe breathe and reestablish itself if you're going into the future, and you just can't do that with Rey, it's just too soon, you want to be hundreds if not thousands of years later so that things can be fresh. Going into the past, you have The Old Republic and Mandalorian Wars, and yes, those are familiar areas for those super in the know, but at least there's plenty of time for things to then realign for the High Republic and then the Prequels. A new Saga needs the space.
Thats what they should have done after 6. Jump FAR ahead in the future. They wanted nothing to do with the old characters anyway.
I miss the splendor and wonder of the first movie, because we knew nothing of it.
How about some movies in the old republic or something. Something more fresh
I want new and honestly don’t want Dave in all of that either.
i love the clone wars and rebels, but agreed. i haven't been the biggest fan of filoni's live stuff.
@@ChristopherStandardTime it’s okay. The main plus is that he’s creative, but his writing is not film level.
For now I’d love a Thrawn trilogy with the Ahsoka, mando and boba fett crew. I don’t think Disney would make a new unknown trilogy, simply because it’s a gamble and the bottom line is number one. Maybe George has/had the originality to come up with a whole new saga. Greed, I think you want a new Star Wars that doesn’t feel like Star Wars, and you might be in the minority with that.
I'm SO over the Skywalker family lol please give us something new
I would love something completely different, either set way in the future or way in the past - not connected to the OT/PT. Unfortunately they can't let go because IP holders fear change so remain in the cycle of constantly using the same ideas and memberberries forevermore. Andor is the furthest theyve gotten away from it and the flip was the ST which was the biggest culprit of it! Unfortunately nostalgia is lucrative for the corporations.
Been wanting them to ditch the OT and its characters since hearing about the Disney acquisition. Get away from everything - I understand how risky it would be - but surely worth it.
This modo gets paid by disney
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Even better with hardly any jedi or sith. Just regular people in an infinite galaxy.
I have lots of thoughts. The fans don't want to see the same thing over and over again, the problem is that Hollywood is too devoid of creativity to actually make new/unique, impactful star wars content as long as Disney Board rooms are the primary decision makers for the franchise. The only hope would be to bring back Lucas to write the story and have someone who actually knows how to direct dynamic character dialog to help bring the characters to life off of the page. I think this would give star wars the life and freedom it needs to explore new areas.
Maybe they could do a new saga about how the Jedi beat the Sith in ancient times, leading to the Rule of Two under Darth Bane.
Or they could jump thousands of years into the future after Rise of Skywalker.