Simon Jordan SLAMS Martin Keown For Alleging Spurs' MAIN Motive Is To STOP Arsenal Winning The PL đ„
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 25. 04. 2024
- talkSPORT's Simon Jordan brands Martin Keown 'arrogant' for insisting that Tottenham care more about stopping Arsenal winning the league than trying to finish the season in the top four.
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How are you going to call people out for arrogance and then proceed to be arrogant
It's called being Keowned
Welcome to Talksport.
Martin is 100% correct
@Dave-nq6uy I hope he cries when spurs win
â@@Dave-nq6uyhe is never correct
I've met every Spurs fan. All 3 of them have stated that beating Arsenal is more important than finishing top 4.
On the basis that if they were sensible theyâd realise theyâve got no chance of winning the champions league anyway - probably the right choiceđ
So what? Its football heritage rivalry
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They are 100% right
â@Ricardo-ur5os spurs, you mean the team who were recently in the champions league final? đ
Every spurs fan has literally said theyâre only interested in stopping Arsenal
Untrue. They'll still try to beat Man City as they want to finish top four.
You've spoken to every spurs fan?
No they havenât lol
On CZcams and all the forums...its a fact
Thatâs the fans. Different for players and managers
Martin isnt lying here...........
Yes he is, i just watched the game he was talking about and Redknapp doesnt run anywhere to celebrate. He stands still mostly while other come shake his hand.
Keane scored a penalty in the 92nd minute, then he and others ran to the corner to celebrate, but thats normal being 2-0 down and coming back to 2-2.
Arsenal celebrated more when they drew 2-2 with Chelsea this season than spurs did the season Keown is talking about.
So hes talking guff.
no hes not@@Konnor244
â @@Konnor244they only needed a draw to win the league and they were told they couldnât celebrate if they beat spurs. Watch Thierry Henry talk about it, when spurs equalised Tarrico laughed in the face of Henry and he replied âyou do know a point is all we needâ ⊠up until then I donât think Arsenal would have celebrated with their fans in the corner.
He's chatting bare s. This is a typical arsenal follow. Arrogant and misleading
Martin is absolutely right does Simon Jordan understand what a derby is all about if you can stop your local rivals winning a trophy that is a massive incentive
He doesnât, cause his club (Palace) and their rivals (Brighton) are not in the hunt for any titles.
Keown âhow can I have a dig at spurs todayâ đ€
Every tottenham fan here in social media say i would rather to beat Arsenal instead of top 4, where is the lie?
It comes off as arrogance for a neutral fan but, Martin is only stating what spurs fans say everyday.
No they donât
And Martin is most certainly a very brilliant man with a very wise head on those broad shoulders..
@@markbright662I live in north London. I know plenty of spurs fans. They do.
@@markbright662 Yes, they do. Stop being completely and utterly wrong.
â@@rosscleary9110 I live among them little tott-shyit , Martin is đŻ spot on đ
Martin isnât the best, but Simon is just wrongâŠ..
Ask any Spurs fan they would give up CL football to stop Arsenal winning the PLâŠ.
There are plenty of vids and X posts to support that point
Thatâs the fans not the manager and the team
@@Cornwall1888 and thatâs a fair point, I suspect CL football is the goalâŠ.
I wonder if Ange changes his style, I just canât see Spurs beating us if they play that high line?
@@Cornwall1888what I came to say. Heâs clearly talking about Ange and the players not the fans
Are you going to the NLD on Sunday plastic?
@@Cafez27 yes, itâs a fair point, and thatâs Simonâs point that he repeated at least twice in this video lol.
That's how a rivalry works... Arsenal will have been the same when Spurs played in the Champions League final. If you don't want your side to stop your rivals from achieving something then you simply do not understand what a rivalry is
Not much of a rivalry, spurs are arsenals dogs
Nope. Spurs are an irritant when they are trying to be successful. Other than that they are amusing but not particularly important other than twice a year.
We all knew deep down they werenât going to win tbh
I don't think Arsenal and Tottenham is a rivalry. It's a Derby though.
Exactly, Neville says he wants Arsenal to win the league to stop Liverpool and City. Does that mean he lacks ambition for Utd or obsessed with the other 2? No, it's just how rivalries work...
Keown looks like heâs been up all night, throwing darts into a spurs team poster.
I support spurs and honestly would rather them finish 5th and Arsenal 2nd then Spurs 4th and Arsenal 1st.
Be realistic, with Angeâs naive, throw everyone forward and play a ridiculously high line and get exposed on the counter attack every match, and fail to be able to defend set piece tactics - we would get embarrassed in Champions League anyways.
an honest fan, nice to see
As a Tottenham fan, our fanbase has been through tough times such as seeing our biggest rival clinching the league title at our home stadium twice. And even in Arsenalâs lean yrs, they were able to celebrate FA cups and community Shields. If we won of the big trophies during our Pochettino days, it wouldâve been a huge monkey off our backs, but we havenât. We suffered through four managers fired, our greatest striker leave our club with nothing to show for, while weâre looking forward to Postecoglouâs Tottenham, if you know our history, it can also end in another disaster.
W Spurs fan with astute self consciousness. No hard feelings but I do hope we win even if it's at your expense. It's not even about you guys it's about us. We've languished a lot with unfulfilled potential. From the 08-12 side. The 13-16 sides and the 17-21 'banter' side.
It's just time to let these 2 decades of pain go. It may be nice to brag to Spurs, Chelsea and UTD but right now it's bigger than our rivals. It's about righting our ship and getting our club into the right trajectory. To chase more league titles and European pedigree that had eluded us for too long. We chasing to be a Giant club.
It will end in tears it always does and always will with levy about because his trophy is top 4 amd thatâs all he wants
@@peggi18. Why canât people see for him itâs only about the money. He sacked Mourinho days before the League Cup final so as not to have to pay him a bonus for winning a trophy. With Mourinho almost certainly Tottenham had more of a chance to win it đ€
The spurs players definitely will not be stepping onto that pitch with the intention to lose just so they can ruin Arsenalâs title charge, you just donât have that mentality as a football player. However, to think that the spurs fans would not happily lose to Man City so Arsenal wonât get a title is just plain wrong.
I can say as a Tottenham fan we want both, we want to get top four and we want to stop Arsenal from winning the title.
Jim saying what's wrong with over celebrating is hilariousđhypocrisy at its finest
That is hilarious.đđđ
Keown is right though - ask any Spurs fan if they want Arsenal to win the league over finishing top 4 and they say 'Arsenal not to win it' 95% of the time.
Theyâre talking about the players ffs how have you just listened to a 10âmin video and not grasped that
@@Ricardo-ur5os lol, calm down! :)
@@Ricardo-ur5osyouâre correct, the players are busting their ass to honour the chicken on their shirt
Being in the top 4 doesn't benefit us, only Levy
I've been watching Spurs for over forty years - I can't see us getting anything out of Sunday's game, as we're a cut below the Woolwich at present. It'd be too much to take if that lot were to win the league.
Keown is right. We don't expect Spurs to stop Man City for Arsenal
Y'all should understand Simon needs to disagree for the views. Even he doesn't believe what he is saying here
Keown an absolute clown "All they were interested in was finishing above Arsenal", which club created a day in celebration of this exactly? Hmmm
"And theres a shape of a fruit" at the endđđđ
How long left on Keown's contract with Talksport?
I used to think Martin Keown looks stupid ( externally) in his playing days....now I confirmed that.
Not sure wtf Keown is talking about a shifting of power in the 2002 season. United won it in 2003 and then Arsenal won their 3rd and last (to date) PL title in 2004. United continued to dominate in the PL until Ferguson retired. There was no shifting of power at all. Guyâs a clown
Jamie Redknapp never scored a free kick and he did not run around, he scored and ran bk to the halfway line cos it was a goal dat got us back in the game
Simon underestimates Spurs' pettiness
Tottenham only interested in finishing above spurs. Yet it was aresenal that invented the St Totteridge day rubbish
Keown is right of course local rivals dont wanna do anything to help each other on the pitch.
Yet Arsenal or Wenger never won the CL , Keown is a laughable character.
And Spurs did? đ
Got robbed against Barca remember. Yous are nothing and have won nothing and will never ever win anything. Little boy
For once Martin is right. Spurs are obsessed with Arsenal
"Slams" how many times had that been used this week!! đ
As a Spurs fan for about 30 years, Keown is right. Henry speaks about Taricco celebrating a 2-2 draw in his face when Arsenal also won the league that day. It was a pathetic losing mentality that Spurs had and to hear other Spurs fans wanting us not to win matches in order to affect other results is a lack of self respect. Spurs need to break that pattern, and hopefully Postecoglou is in the process of instilling a more ambitious mentality at the club.
I'm an Arsenal fan, my brother is a spurs fan. His last text on the subject, "Any spurs fan would tell you they'd give up champions league before seein arsenal win the prem".
For context, he was gloating over Aston Villa's win over Arsenal, to which I pointed out Villa's success means no champions league for spurs.
Im a spurs fan and we have nothing to play for now. We arent getting top 4 and who cares if we do, we arent good enough for CL. All I care about is arsenal not winning so hes right tbf
We see it on sunday if you can stop us or you will cry đąCOYG
Keown is on Troll patrol. Heâs very worried and now has melted down on national radio.
His hypocrisy is outstanding. And at no time was there a shift in power, Man Utd were always better. He is a very bitter man.
All Kleown ever ends up doing is trolling himself.
But genuinely the results Tottenham fans such as Expressions have celebrated the most in the last 2 seasons, have all involved Arsenal dropping points, villa some weeks back and the results at the end of last season. Not even Spursâ wins over Liverpool or United or their recent wins which would help them secure top 4
Bobby Davro said it best on Sky last week. âAs Spurs fans we want to win. We strive for greatness, we despise lateness. We fight, they might, but we all feel the spite. Letâs drive drive drive.â
Imagine telling a player that was part of it, witnessed what was going on in the dressing rooms, add to that the amount of totntehan fans themselves & even players in past who have said things like âthe biggest thing now is to stop Arsenal winningâŠâ because their season was already finished.
Jordan is bang on
the fans motivation is what drives the club to strive to be bigger and better. If the fans are happy finishing above another club then doesn't it let the owners off the hook and they don't have to invest and/or try to win anything?
Funny coming back after the derby and every spurs fan saying they are gonna throw the game against city on purpose, keown was spot on
Martin is so right . Spurs' main goals are only to hate Gunners not even winning domestic silversđź
Thumbs down for loud volume of jingle at the end
I havenât come across many fans who arenât as Keown says.
Spurs can achieve both aims by beating Arsenal. But the litmus test is whether Spurs would 'roll over' against City just to stop Arsenal. It's the second last match of the season for both City and Spurs and both Arsenal and Villa would have just one more game left. We would get a much clearer picture of the how the title race and top 4 race would finish by then.
When Chelsea drew 2-2 so Leicester won the league, it was both one of Chelsea and Arsenals fans best memories. Get off your high horse Keown, if I was spurs manager , Iâd make sure we lost 20-0 to city to swing the goal difference back !
Iâve heard lots of Spurs fans say they would choose to miss out on top 4 if it means Arsenal lose the league
Fans will have that motivation but the players and coaches won't. People forget that the players and coaches have no affiliation to the club except being employed, they're all professionals and want to win. Liverpool nearly gave United the title by beating Blackburn on the final day of the season.
Is Martin that Dom that he can't see jim and simon makes him a fool every time he is at the studio
Even in before arsenal vs aston villa spurs fans were calling your show and claming it's better if villa win so that arsenal is not getting points and their main rivals for the champions league is villa. Spurs fans care more about arsenal than anything else.
SIMON THAT TELLS ME YOU HAVE NO KNOLEDGE OF THE NORTH LONDON DERBY,SO THAT DISQUALIFIES YOU FROM ANY REMARKS YOU MAKE,SIMON TAKE THIS ON THE CHIN
Keown has been spiralling todayđđđ
Keown forgetting the gooners literally created a day to celebrate finishing above spurs lol selective memory much
It's because it happend so bloody often we thought why not that's why
That's just funny because they're so garbage. That's like saying " oh but they created a song about them " Yea that's called football trash talk
â@robgraham1204 Not ant more buddy !! You often finish under Tottenham...in their shadow !!
@@robgraham1204 no, its because arsenal were not winning anything at the time and spurs had wona trophy more recently so that was the only straw they could clutch at the time.
Tottenham and Everton take the rivalry with their neighbours seriously and definitely take pleasure in throwing a spanner in the works. Man.Utd however have not been a challenge for City for a long, long, long time! This will be the big difference in the title run this season.
this is the simple case of when you think you are smarter than you actually are.
I don't believe any manager would go out to lose a game to stop a rival winning keown talking rubbish I agree many suprs fans might but not the manager or players
Keown should do his job and listen to Spursâ manager
His name is Ange btw bro
What difference does it make. Use whatever you like to motivate you.
For some reason Martin Keown is making this an either/or thing. But from a fan perspective it is both. I want Spurs to win things first and foremost, and I never want Arsenal to win anything. It just happens that Spurs aren't very good at being successful and Arsenal are more so in recent decades. So all you are left with as a Spurs fan each year is "please don't let Arsenal win anything to rub salt in the wound of us not winning anything again". It's really not that complicated. Simon is right though, to think the players and manager are overly bothered about Arsenal winning the title in this day and age is ludicrous, unless they are Tottenham through and through academy players.
Martin says Spurs fans only think about Arsenal and then he goes on and on about Spurs. Can someone please explain to him (in slow and clear terms) the irony of that.
He is just projecting Ars*nals obsession with Tottenham onto Spurs fans. The bloke is ridiculous, his club invented "St.totteringhams day" ffs. Of course we don't want our rivals winning the league, any club would use that as motivation in a Derby. This is projection of the highest order. What a melt.
Martins 100%right cos Ohara said it las wk after the Wolves game
Ohara) *hopefully Spurs will stop Arsenal from winning the Title, id rather Tottenham finish 5th if it meant Arsenal don't win.* Cundy agreed with Phara in stopping Arsenal being more important than Chelsea getting in European places
Some Rotts fans said it aswell
Has someone told Martin to ham it up and be controversial- he is usually dull as dishwater. Now heâs throwing out grenades every two minutes!
Martin is just embarrassed Arsenal finished beneath spurs 7 years in a row with a higher budget
2002 was such a shift of power that United won the league the following season đđđ€Šđ»ââïžđđđ
I mean, come on now. I am an Arsenal fan myself but that's the kind of hurdle that we need to overcome if we want to be champion. If we lose to Spurs this weekend then we don't deserve the tittle, simple as. And it is none of Spurs fault whatsoever.
Martin Keown is considered a prat amongst the Arsenal fans.
Arsenal are not winning anything under a serial bottler in Arteta.
Spurs were in a Champions league final.
Personally, I don't give a damn about Levy's trophy of 3rd loser.
Or Levy's narrative of success by finishing above Arsenal.
Yet last season those reprobates on arsenal tv were using the excuse of winning nothing was finishing above united! Shut up martin!
Does anybody understand the meaning of the word rivalry đ€·đ»ââïžâ
Martin Keown doing everything possible to convince us that he is 12 years old.
It's reality Spurs care more about stopping Arsenal than anything else for the game. Because that would please them more. It's a fact.
Martin makes his arguments up as he goes along
The only Tottenham fans that would rather have CL are those with dividend from the club
I don't get it are you all suggesting spurs to rollover for asernal đ
Of course it is. Everton the same did you see their joy at stopping Liverpool having a chance. Donât be so closed to the idea
The drive to win the game because of its importance to the fans both sets of fans but top four is a possibility so martins arrogance doesnât help the debate no team no matter how big have a Devine rights win anything.
Spurs will play open like always and get 5 in by Arsenal. Spurs need a real manager.
Was he talking about Liverpool were playing that football in the 80s
Martin has just given the Tottenham players even more motivation đ€Ą
Martin Keown has dropped to a new level of pathetic here.
He isnât a good pundit, soon as it comes to arsenal he sprouts absolute bs.
Thereâs a occasion by the name of Saint Totteringhamâs Day by the way Mr Keown
Tottenham fans I think want nothing more than to stop arsenal I have friends who have said this. But the the players, staff and club itâs not the reason why they wanna win. I believe Martin is still thinking in the mindset of the spurs he played against theyâre different now although they have no trophies (lol) the ambition is very different to the spurs Martin played.
Martin is right, we want to stop Arsenal winning the PL. Good enough motivation for us. COYS!
Arsenal have been in the top four twice in the last 8 years...Martin is very very bitter.
The amount of times that Simon makes Martin look a Berk
Look guys both sides need to win. They both have something to play for. When Spurs play City again they will both have something to play for. The side that wins this game have to be physically and mentally stronger. One mistake, one moment of brilliance, one poor ref decision could decide this game. If both sides play their A game Arsenal win but if they play like they did against Villa with a B or C game then Spurs will win. Yes and injuries will play a part in this game because they can stop you playing your A game, just like when City drop points without Rodri.
Martin has a point, Everton are exactly the same.
Martin Keown talking fax. Just need to listen to DR sport's Abbie and Expressions. They're obsessed with stopping Arsenalđ
Spurs vs ManC will be interesting to see just how much Spurs want 4th place.
Man united fans dont care if Man city win the title, cause does not mean anything to anyone like they won the treble and nobody talked about it after that
I know Liverpool vs. City / Liverpool vs. Man Utd / Arsenal vs. Man Utd are massive games...... but just by sheer media lunacy, everyone knows the most intense rivalry is NLD..... there is no other HATRED like this derby :D:D even El Classico looks mild compared to these two camps :D
Yes you are right...manchester and merseyside derby are the friendliest derby ever from years of history even until now...but NLD derby is the most intense from both fans perspective, we can feel it from bayern munich game when spurs fan contact Kane to help end Arsenal progress in the UCL... Really shame...
@@mohdyusofeeazamyaziz1568 - The reasons for Spurs to hate Arsenal are several......... The original franchise team.... Been squatting on our patch for over a century....... Bribed their way into the old first division.......
North London is and always will be Lilywhite.
@@mohdyusofeeazamyaziz1568 Another clueless person - Utd v City and Utd v Liverpool by far bigger. And if you want pure hate Celtic v Rangers 4 times per year. Different level due to Religion. And every now and then Millwall v West Ham, go and ask what the Met Police think of this game when these 2 games get drawn together. You literally with all due respect have no idea. Probably too young. NLD do me a favour not even close and I've been as a neutral. Chelsea v Spurs has more hatred ffs.
i believe the fans would love to stop us winning the league and if you ask them they may say that they would prefer to lose to city to stop us winning it. but the players are a different story. how many of them are spurs fans lol they are professional athletes who only want to win!!
What a bizarre conversation. I'm a neutral Spurs will want to get 3 points end of, if that f@cks up Arsenal then so be it. Really odd from Keown. The players will want to get 3 points unless I'm missing something. The ideas that Utd kicked Aresnal off the pitch in 2003 lol.
Actually agree with Martin for once, he's right on this
What else is their motive Simon ?? They donât win trophies, they donât even get to any finals, what are their motives season after season?
Can't believe talksport are actually paying keown for his opinion. Pathetic.
Itâs harder for a London Club to win the PL than any other outside of London.
đ im no spurs fan but i would like to think they have more to aspire too this season rather than just ending Arsenals league hopes.. however that being said that was solely the only thing chelsea fans really wanted when we got run ragged..
Thank god Keown never played for any of the old firm then he would know all about stopping rivals winning a league
he said itâs at player level but keeps on going on about the fans đ i canât believe heâs not trolling đ how can he tell anyone what their motivations are đ