DIESEL ANTI-LAG | How it Works

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  • čas přidán 21. 10. 2023
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    In this video, we’ll explore the advancements made with our anti-lag system for the diesel drifter. Join Lasse and Teemu as they explain its functionality, discuss the associated benefits, and outline the areas that need improvement in the future.
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Komentáře • 98

  • @turbodieselbuilds
    @turbodieselbuilds  Před 7 měsíci +5

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  • @PHUSII
    @PHUSII Před 6 měsíci +40

    Next season when this is tuned to the perfection, there will be results that people don't believe! The skill that Teemu has when the car works and when he gets the confidence and trusts the car, the results will be insane! Can't wait!

  • @JaakkoTK
    @JaakkoTK Před 6 měsíci +72

    You should sell this system to Vatican, when the next Pope will be elected they need quicker response to the election process :)

  • @sippo69
    @sippo69 Před 7 měsíci +36

    That’s absolutely awesome, kudos to the team and Lasse especially! 🚀 Super cool that you guys explain it in detail how it’s actually working 💪🏻

  • @LJ-fe8vb
    @LJ-fe8vb Před 7 měsíci +14

    Looks and sounds awesome. I have soi limiter on my m47 118d. It definetly has a cool show factor. I broke the vnt vanes on the turbo from too much heat and detonation hahah

  • @lilbHEMI
    @lilbHEMI Před 6 měsíci +4

    Keep up the good works guys . It looks awesome

  • @JPMotorhead1993
    @JPMotorhead1993 Před 6 měsíci

    seriously awesome stuff guys! Thanks for sharing!

  • @MikkoRantalainen
    @MikkoRantalainen Před 6 měsíci +2

    It's starting to sound you would need to create and program your own ECU. Really nice hack with an ECU that's not designed for anti-lag!

  • @TheRojman
    @TheRojman Před 6 měsíci

    Solid work!

  • @danielsvamp
    @danielsvamp Před 3 měsíci

    I love this video. I am very interested in learning diesel tuning and this is like finding gold for me.

    • @erty2389
      @erty2389 Před 18 hodinami

      These guys are the masters when it comes to diesel tuning!

  • @Hnkka
    @Hnkka Před 6 měsíci

    this will be insane next season

  • @nesmio7378
    @nesmio7378 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Do you have a link to the Excel tables you showed in the video about how the antilag is setup?

  • @gafrers
    @gafrers Před 6 měsíci

    Interesting and greatly explained

  • @kn8258
    @kn8258 Před 6 měsíci

    So friggin cool guys!

  • @dieselmats
    @dieselmats Před 6 měsíci +5

    I need to try this on my Smart 3 cyl CDI !

  • @neddy1287
    @neddy1287 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Mad to hear the engine revving and sounding like the 5 cylinder engine from Audi Quattro rally car

  • @diesel-technology5507
    @diesel-technology5507 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Have you thought about using pilot injection to make the initial cylinder temp increase and then the main injection later in the cycle like how a dpf is being regenerated? This would add plenty of exhaust manifold pressure to keep the turbo lit

    • @turbodieselbuilds
      @turbodieselbuilds  Před 6 měsíci +4

      Have not thinked, but used now minute to this idea. Might be possible to play little bit with🧐

    • @diesel-technology5507
      @diesel-technology5507 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@turbodieselbuilds it can be possible to insert code into the ECU which allows you to formulate a driver controlled fuel cut rpm, similar to how a rolling anti-lag system would work. I assume the air conditioning is not longer in use so the inputs for this system can be converted into being used for this purpose

  • @aatunen1332
    @aatunen1332 Před 7 měsíci +10

    miljoonan markan idea. joku rupeaa tekemään aftermarket diesel ecuja👍

  • @jarnoharju9928
    @jarnoharju9928 Před 7 měsíci +2

    hienoa työtä :)

  • @Ollila11
    @Ollila11 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Jos laittais subaru tyylisen polttikammion putkeen ja pitäis ahot aina ylhäällä?

  • @sirseven3
    @sirseven3 Před 6 měsíci +2

    What would EGT's look like with this fueling profile?

  • @RussellRobinson77
    @RussellRobinson77 Před 6 měsíci +1

    How about volvos compressed gas trick?

  • @GodlikeIridium
    @GodlikeIridium Před měsícem

    I searched "Antilag" but found "Vikings and Antilag" 😂 That accent is amazing^^
    Edit: So it's done via timing to expand the combustion into the exhaust system? Because diesel won't self combust only by heat later as petrol in the usual anti lag.

  • @artzi_ip
    @artzi_ip Před 7 měsíci +10

    Really nice !! is this a worlds first Diesel Anti Lag ??

    • @turbodieselbuilds
      @turbodieselbuilds  Před 7 měsíci +1

      No I don't think so. There were at least some comments on TikTok about someone else who has made it.

    • @V8Lenny
      @V8Lenny Před 7 měsíci +2

      Maybe 10 years ago in Holland, a pulling truck.

    • @forzer45
      @forzer45 Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​@@V8Lennyyeah, some tractor and truck pulling guys have done it

    • @onny5989
      @onny5989 Před 5 měsíci

      No. Me, at least one German guy, SiuroTDI and some others have done it also.

  • @jesszaeus7371
    @jesszaeus7371 Před 6 měsíci

    Very cool good video

  • @CrAzZyTheCodingBoss
    @CrAzZyTheCodingBoss Před 7 měsíci +2

    Genius

  • @ViSSrox
    @ViSSrox Před 6 měsíci +1

    Finally subtitles 😂

  • @mariusfridlund55
    @mariusfridlund55 Před 7 měsíci +2

    nice 🤩😎🤟

  • @skossu8
    @skossu8 Před měsícem

    Täytyy sanoa että odotan innolla miten alkaa pelaamaan ja olisin kiinnostunut kokeilemaan bemariin jos jätkillä on aikaa 👍

  • @vikramramprasad530
    @vikramramprasad530 Před 3 měsíci

    Awesome

  • @chris661
    @chris661 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Will injection this late spray/inject outside of the piston bowl or potentially injecting into the edge of the piston bowl and melting it (metal spraying the cylinder with piston material)?

    • @turbodieselbuilds
      @turbodieselbuilds  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Injection is so late, so dont hit to piston. Make more heat on cylinder, yes.

  • @manuelmustajarvi
    @manuelmustajarvi Před 7 měsíci +2

    Kadetista ainakin pauke tuntu mahan pohjassa asti. Kuin Rintasen autosta konsanaan 🤩

    • @Hnkka
      @Hnkka Před 6 měsíci

      Vittu että se tuntuu rinnassa hyvältä ku oikein kunnolla ajetaan paukku päällä

  • @wuddy2605
    @wuddy2605 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I am really sad that I was too late in Ferropolis and couldn't see the car drive

    • @turbodieselbuilds
      @turbodieselbuilds  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Thats too bad, where are you from? Next year there will be more chances :)

    • @wuddy2605
      @wuddy2605 Před 6 měsíci

      @@turbodieselbuilds oh yes :( but was a nice weekend, I'm from Cuxhaven Germany.
      I was the guy with the Red w211 :D

  • @what9418
    @what9418 Před 7 měsíci +8

    You came up with lowering the injection pressure to extend injection, which is brilliant.
    Could it work to make the timing and rail pressure a function of the requested boost at a given rpm, throttle position and measured boost?
    Then, when requested boost is higher than measured boost, the ecu can increase duration and lower the pressure as a function of the difference between measured and requested boost. That maximizes heat output when the turbo spools up.

    • @zocka64
      @zocka64 Před 6 měsíci

      This would need custom Code in the ecu, which needs to be written in asm and inserted into Stock Code, really time consuming and difficult imo

    • @turbodieselbuilds
      @turbodieselbuilds  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Hmm. When we are on throttle, we want have always best possible power output to tyres. We can not do anything what effect less power and wait to have more. So is best way to adjust what happen when we are off throttle. Is playground area😁 Think on throttle area is optimized quite well.

    • @zocka64
      @zocka64 Před 6 měsíci

      @@turbodieselbuilds yes I think this would need to be custom Code on decel only, I like the simpler approach with calibration maps more

  • @ristow4554
    @ristow4554 Před 5 měsíci +1

    holy akcent !

  • @AshGTE
    @AshGTE Před 6 měsíci +2

    Could you maybe add a "7th injector" to the unused egr system and inject diesel directly into the manifold.

    • @turbodieselbuilds
      @turbodieselbuilds  Před 6 měsíci +3

      It works pretty well with only basic injectors, so dont want add anything.

    • @zocka64
      @zocka64 Před 6 měsíci

      I would think it wouldnt ignite in the manifold, but am Not sure

  • @CrAzYDr1veR
    @CrAzYDr1veR Před 7 měsíci +2

    should work for drag racing too

    • @turbodieselbuilds
      @turbodieselbuilds  Před 7 měsíci +1

      It should, we’ll possibly be showing that on the daily driver 😁

  • @kohlmuhlberger
    @kohlmuhlberger Před měsícem

    Hello everyone, having troubles understanding fully how the diesel engine works with anti-lag. It seems as though theybare just injecting fuel late into the combustion cycle so that the charge carries into the exhaust housing?
    Im asking because i would like to try and create diesel antilag with a mechanical injection pump and want to fully understand the theory.

    • @turbodieselbuilds
      @turbodieselbuilds  Před měsícem +1

      Yes basically just like that. When turbo pressure goes below a threshold it injects some diesel really late. It sounds impossible to get it working with a mechanical pump 😅 but happy to be proven wrong 😊

    • @turbodieselbuilds
      @turbodieselbuilds  Před měsícem

      Lasse or Robert can maybe specifiy how the injection exactly is done.

  • @zvonimirkljajic4473
    @zvonimirkljajic4473 Před 6 měsíci

    Gotta admit i didn't really understand how is fuel ignited outside the standard combustion stroke?

    • @turbodieselbuilds
      @turbodieselbuilds  Před 6 měsíci

      Injection start will be early enough to get diesel burn, but long duration to get injection late.

    • @larsjrgensen5975
      @larsjrgensen5975 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I think it is like this:
      Injection start at normal time to make the engine ignite the fuel, but then hold the injector on with very low amount of fuel to keep a small flame on inside the engine, like a lighter.
      As long as the flame is on inside the engine it will make heat for the turbo, but the engine will not make much power because it is at the wrong time, so it is possible to make boost when the engine is not making power.
      I do not know how long they can hold the flame with the ECU software limits, but it could be possible to still burn fuel when exhaust valve is open.
      The pops and bangs could be because some cylinders are not able to hold a flame on, so the diesel is going unburned to the turbo, but the fire from the other cylinders ignite it.

  • @ICEcoldNordicc
    @ICEcoldNordicc Před 6 měsíci

    vittu lasse on kyllä velho!!

  • @P4FElton
    @P4FElton Před měsícem

    so let me see if i got it right... in a normal gasoline car they do anti lag by delaying the spark, so the gasoline burns while the piston comes up and sends half the explosion to the exhaust... thats... ok... now in a diesel you cant do that because the diesel needs a high compression and temperature for the diesel to burn instantly as soon it leaves the injector (in a gasoline car if this happens is like knock, the gasoline should only burn after the spark), now they just changed the injection to do it delayed as the gasoline anti lag right? that means that this engine has enough compression to burn diesel even with the piston on bottom end? woot?
    Either way i never understood why drifting never used a proper robust biturbo system (sequential one), iam no expert but they were made to delete the turbo lag at lower rpm so... properly made and you have a boosted car that reacts as a naturally aspirated (and im talking in general not only diesel)
    Or have a button to raise the idle to like 4000 rpm... like iam pretty sure thats easy to do in any standalone ecu and deletes any type of turbo lag... so simple yet never saw anyone doing it...
    OUT OF THE BOX IDEA:
    A electric high boost turbo (like thats hard to do but maybe garrett or a big company can do it, that not only would get rid of the lag but also from the power loss from the hot side of the turbo... plust no need of the hot side of turbo or extra manifold fabrication, just the cold side and a proper strong electric motor, plus you can install it next to the intercooler so it gets even less air travel and less time to compress)

    • @turbodieselbuilds
      @turbodieselbuilds  Před měsícem

      Lasse or Robert have to answer the anti-lag question but on our video about a week ago we explain our compound turbo setup and what updates we made to it for this season.

  • @garethparkman3677
    @garethparkman3677 Před 2 měsíci

    What causes the white smoke, assuming burning oil?

  • @markkuahlamaa770
    @markkuahlamaa770 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thanks This The Great Video & Channel !
    I Have a Same Car Channel too , From Finland !
    Have : Drag Race , Street Race , History Car Race , Super Car , Muscle Car , Cruising ,...
    #Retired4You

  • @technicallyeco.2751
    @technicallyeco.2751 Před 6 měsíci

    I wonder if anyones ever put a rocket atl system on a diesal

  • @Zulebmwe007
    @Zulebmwe007 Před 6 měsíci

    ❤❤

  • @realfeikki
    @realfeikki Před 6 měsíci +1

    Oisko pakokaasujarrusta hyötyä? Mitä käyttäävät esim kuorma-autoissa? 🤔 ei taida säännötkään kieltää sitö, kun ei muut aja lamppuöljyllä. 😂

    • @Hnkka
      @Hnkka Před 6 měsíci

      Tuota pitää jollai kyllä tutkia

  • @templario9220
    @templario9220 Před 6 měsíci

    0:18 what car is this?

    • @turbodieselbuilds
      @turbodieselbuilds  Před 6 měsíci +1

      @kadettcdi on instagram, Lasse's and he's brothers hobby drifter/ice racer

  • @abhirmalhotra5103
    @abhirmalhotra5103 Před 6 měsíci

    It’s also called nitrous. I don’t know if these guys use it. But they should.

    • @turbodieselbuilds
      @turbodieselbuilds  Před 3 měsíci

      No, its not. Have had nitrous, but dont use it anymore.

    • @abhirmalhotra5103
      @abhirmalhotra5103 Před 3 měsíci

      @@turbodieselbuilds trying something new is very cool and im all for it. But nitrous works well On diesels.

  • @TherealAsanD
    @TherealAsanD Před 6 měsíci

    What accent is this?

  • @tn1844
    @tn1844 Před 6 měsíci

    tohtori

  • @paasosentomi
    @paasosentomi Před 7 měsíci +1

    Ei voi muuta ko hattua nostaa

  • @Leka421
    @Leka421 Před 7 měsíci +9

    Eipä viitti tuota rallienglantia kuunnella

    • @Ari-in9lq
      @Ari-in9lq Před 7 měsíci +52

      Vihtiipäs

    • @SamsaraCC
      @SamsaraCC Před 7 měsíci +20

      Viittit kyllä tulla valittamaan asiasta tänne, mikä nyt on vaan pelkästään sinun ongelmasi.

    • @esa7269
      @esa7269 Před 7 měsíci +22

      No voi itku sentään. Takas yle uutiset selkosuomeksi pariin😢🤗

    • @fr0sted245
      @fr0sted245 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Onneks kukaan ei sua pakota kattomaan tätä kontenttia vai mitä leka

    • @vicmac3513
      @vicmac3513 Před 7 měsíci +14

      Leka laittaa omat ääninäytteet omasta täydellisestä englannistaan omalle kanavalleen.

  • @lamellilaikka6096
    @lamellilaikka6096 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Guys you are making history with this. Thats insane👌🏼🤌🏻