GPU Tier List - Nvidia Edition!
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It’s no surprise that Nvidia’s latest RTX 40 series GPUs are also the fastest. But how does this generation as a whole compare to its long list of predecessors? We’re going back over 10 years to rank every NVIDIA GPU generation! How does your card fare?
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0:00 Intro
1:09 FX 5000
3:18 GeForce 6000
4:20 GeForce 7000
6:18 GeForce 8000
8:21 GeForce 9000
9:20 GeForce 100
9:50 GTX 200
11:12 GTX 300
11:35 GTX 400
13:20 GTX 500
14:16 GTX 600
16:17 GTX 700
18:05 GTX 800
18:28 GTX 900
20:50 GTX 10
22:40 RTX 20/ GTX 16
24:24 RTX 30
26:18 RTX 40
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well, when did Maxwell architecture debuted? haha it wasn't with 900 series, wasn't it? such a fail...
I see that this is a new "strat" on youtube?
Noticed a small typo when you introduced the 500 series, date range and architecture is shared from Tesla but should say Fermi. And you mentioned the 900 series introduced Maxwell which isn't actually true as the 750/ti introduced it before the launch of the 900 series and at the time they were swooped up by miners for their increased performance per watt over previous gen.
Will there be something like this with ATI/AMD gpu's generetions?
I think the 16 series and the 20 series should be separated.
Hands down, the GTX 1080Ti. It was an insane leap at the time. I'm still using mine to this day.
1080ti gang
Close enough to mine but my 1070 overexceeded my expectations. Started out with a gt 1030. The jump was insane
the 1080ti can even compete in RT performance with the current console... it's crazy.
sadly most modern games don't support rt on the 10 series anymore, it would be cool simply as a fun curiosity to test the 1080ti with newer RT games
@@kitsumyr9752 That would've been like being partially blind and then being able to see clearly lol. That must have been an insane jump, indeed!
1080Ti for the win here. Hands down the best nvidia card ever! 11Gb still going strong. A card that lasts 5 years. The phenomenon.
8800 GTX and the 1080Ti were both era defining cards that had an amazing and long lasting impact. And the performance came out of nowhere and moved the game on big time. My first Nvidia GPU was a brand new TNT2 ultra. I miss those days. I enjoyed this, a new GPU launch has always been exciting. I still remember when the GeForce 256 came out, that was impressive. I am hoping for an ATI/AMD equivalent video ;)
HD 7950 was pretty awesome for price to performance watt. That was an S tier card from AMD. Intel A750 with time will be an S tier for what it is to.
@@phoenixrising4995 Hd 7000 series was brilliant. My first ATI card was a 9700 Pro which was equally awesome. I’ve still got a few HD cards, a pair of 6970’s, a 5970, 5870 etc etc…that was such a great time!
lol I went from a TNT2 card to the RTX 2080 Super - I was into counterstrike in early 99-03 and then didn't bother with PC gaming again till 2018 when I got a huge bonus at work... lol so I went from a Pentium 3 866mhz with a TNT2 Ultra card (parents dell computer) then 15ish years later I deceided to get back into PC gaming and bought a 9900k and a 2080 Super
@@TrainWreck444 wow, that’s what I call an upgrade 😅 like going from horse and cart to a Saturn V
I still have a TNT2 and HD7950 but my 8000 series was mobile SLI, I'll have to ask my friend about his old 1080ti if he ever gets rid of it so I can have the whole collection in this comment thread lol
GTX 1080Ti hands down the best card Nvidia has ever made that lasted well into the current generation and the price to performance ratio was good value.
Indeed , I bought a 1070 ti second hand ( after my 1060 fried ) about 5 years ago and she is still doing me really well , only reason I would want to upgrade is for RTX... or maybe 4k gaming but eh not now , first need that 4k screen
In theory, a 3080Ti around 700 dollars or 800 that a friend bought a long time ago is just as good or better value thanks to well made DLSS and CUDA cores.
I built my new PC last month for myself with an RTX 3090, and build a good enough PC for my brother who games in 1080p. The 1080ti FE was handed down to him (along with an i7 4930k), and it continues to casually play everything amazingly well. best value for a card ever, 6 years old and it'll still be good enough for a few more years
im looking to upgrade and the only reason im not getting a 1080ti is because people are way overpricing it even on 2nd hand market. Its listed the same price and sometimes even more expensive than a used 3060ti
@@ponkotuu yeah, i went with a 3070 for the same reason. $320 canadian average on fb marketplace while you can get a 3060 (sometimes a ti if it's a good deal) for less, which has rtx and all the bells and whistles. just ended up coughing up the extra $50 for a 3070 since i might as well at that price difference. ridiculous second hand.
The GTX 970 was, at one time, the most used card on Steam. Many people getting into PC gaming for the first time and basically everyone from casual Pc gamers to value yet hardcore PC gamers had one. Many people would say it should be S tier just for that. And if I remember correctly it was a pretty big sample size.
Still rocking my GTX 970 and still miffed it only has 3.5GB VRAM. Got the card specifically because I wanted 4 GB 🤡 I have a 4060 Ti coming in that I'm pretty hyped about despite all the negativity surrounding it. The card performs almost on-par with the RTX 3070 and it's a huge step up for me 🤷♂
@@OniCr0wawesome! I also have a 970 and am looking at the 40 series pretty nicely right now. Im curious what made you decide that card? there are so many options its overwhelming
@OniCr0w Me too, gtx 970 is really the go-to budget card if an rx 580 is out of the question.
I upgraded to 3060 ti since I really didn't think the 4000 series was gonna that much of an upgrade and ended up being half right (4060 ti either performs the same or slightly better than 3060 ti in certain games).
Hope you got the 16gb 4060 ti, or not, $500 for that is crazy to be honest
Still uses the thing...and now in serious need of upgrade. Sucks that the current gen cards are so shit price-wise. Honestly tho, the fact that 7900XTX and the 4080 price are neck and neck in my country means it's going to be hard to decide which to get (and the fact that 4090 is like at least 50% more expensive suuuucks).
I beat from start to finish cyberpunk 2077 on a 970 card. What a trooper of a card. I refuse to throw it away.
Man the 1080TI was really something else for its time. Even today that card can play anything and refuses to die. I'd comfortably say it's easily one of the greatest cards of all time.
I have the baby 1080 and I have never been happier
I still play with a 7year old nvidia strix 1070 8gig. A lot of games on high settings, even with msfs 2020. It is a realy good card tbh.
1080 was ahead of its time, and still has practical use while outperforming a good proportion of the RTX 20, 30, 40, and 50 series cards and being less expensive than today's flagship. The GTX 1050 or 60 mobile performed identically go the desktop counterparts. Gamers weren't fps shamed for not being an American with big desk and big electricity. The GTX 10 series was truly G.O.A.Ted
It was so good you could comfortably ignore the next three generations.
@@DarkTrepie Its best card ever done.
The 10 series was my favorite era. I still remember walking into my local Best Buy back when I didn't know much about computers and walked out with a new $250 EVGA GTX 1060. Little did I know I had bought the greatest card I'd ever own. Also, I just miss when they would make Titan cards.
If only you'd gotten a 1080ti you'd have an even longer reigning best card ever. They pretty much still make titans though with the 90 tier cards with double the ram or the highest end of the professional lineup with twice as much as that for like 3+ times the price.
@@ffwast Why does it matter now? Assuming the 1060 worked for them at the time, why would they have needed a more powerful card, that is now only as good as a 3060Ti?
1060 was good. I was very happy with my 1070 as well but nothing beat the 8800 GT. At 199 dollars you got top tier performance. And it was good enough for years to come. People who are too young to remember don’t really realise how good it was. Edit: seems 199 was not the launch price but it dropped to that a few months later. In any case at that price it was a heck of a deal. Edit again: techpowered up 349 price seems wrong. Anandtech review at the time says 199.
I knew nearly nothing when I grabbed my 1060 6Gb. That thing lasted me for years before I sold the PC to a friend. They still use it. Awesome value for 1080p gaming.
Im still on that era, the 1070 I got at launch is still working, maybe I will get a 4070 this year.
Who ever wrote this did really well. It's difficult to edit a script into a consumeable time frame like this. If I were presenting this I would need to do a 3 hour gamers nexus super tangent focused oh the good ole days form factor.
Kudos on the condensed history lesson for builders and enthusiasts learning the craft alike.
Totally agreed on all the rankings. I still have the 1080Ti but I've owned most of the flagships in this video. The 8000 series was such a fun time to be a gamer, as was the 10 series. Hope we get another S tier sometime in my life.
Not with the prices they're going for now, the sheer physical sizes and of course the insane power usage.
@@Koozwad the technology is stagnating. we need a new gpu design to keep pushing transistor count without the need to increase the physical size and tdp
I have the 1070
Cool. It's a shame that Alan Wake 2 can't run on Pascal. This is the first AAA title that I can't run at high settings with my 1080Ti. It's not even because the 1080Ti isn't powerful enough either, because it's more than enough. It's because Pascal doesn't support mesh shaders, which is required for this game.
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@@plasmahvhSo true, am on a 2080ti, at this point SLI makes more sense than a budget upgrade, like...whaaat the fuck 😂
Really looking forward to the AMD / ATI tier list that's hopefully soon to follow!
Same. That's what I wanna see now.
🥰
Can't wait for that one tbh. It's gonna be a sadder saga in places but imo quite a triumph towards the end. Ppl often forget what an awful state AMD were in for a few years back. First Intel, then that secured and ensured, Nvidia... And all but for the extreme edge of the as yet still niche ray tracing, they did. RDNA2 was first time trading blows to the top in years plus they got the past driver inconsistency sorted, caught up re upscalers and etc. I had to laugh when Linus flashed up the current comparison benchmarks where of the top 6 cards AMD are 4 of them, at 4K no less, only the 4080 and 4090 in there and not both in top place either.
My 6800XT was a no brainer over the 3080 (and it's anaemic 10Gb) two years ago when the latter cost, seriously 50-100% more, with no availability for months vs 3 days for the 6800XT and how that difference got me the same perf plus allowing me to afford better parts for the rest of the build. Prices rn still greatly favour AMD in the UK even taking their lesser (though still improved over last gen) RT perf into account: 4070ti's £800-960, 7900XT's £890-1050, 7900XTX's £1000-1200, 4080's £1200-1700, 4090's £1700-2490. The first three are pretty fairly scaled imo price/perf fwiw but after that, wtf. The 7900XTX beats the 4080 and has been seen closing in on the 4090 already for a hefty chunk less than the 4080 where premium cards are concerned. I'm not paying that much more for 'better' RT that I'll barely use, if at all (few games I own rn, only as many again foreseen in the next year or two) and still needs DLSS assured to bring back fps from sub 60. The 4090ti I'm sure will be even more an assured perf win for Nvidia over what the 4090 is but at what price... 3 grand like the 3090 was 2 years ago when the 6900XT that matched it never got over £1700 here at worst? Meanwhile, if there is a 7950XTX or like in the wings it'll put even more pressure on the 4090 and still be enough difference to upgrade something else (CPU/mobo/RAM etc) meaningfully. Nvidia are tripping tbh, sure the 4090 is crazy good but that price... crazy bad no matter how good.
Sorry if this got ranty but AMD really by this point deserve way better recognition and even praise than the old 'hur dur bad drivers, hot and loud, but muh ray tracing, DLSS is better and some encoder bs' that is still much the norm in many forums. I can't think offhand of any company that turned things around so damn well as AMD actually has.
imho
Radeon 9000: S
Radeon X: C or B
Radeon X1000: B
Radeon HD 2000: F
Radeon HD 3000: D
Radeon HD 4000: A
Radeon HD 5000: S
Radeon HD 6000: C
Radeon HD 7000: S
Radeon R 200: B
Radeon R 300: C
Radeon RX400: A
Radeon RX500: B
Radeon RX 5000: B
Radeon RX 6000: A
Radeon RX 7000: ?
Same, but I hope he gets the Tiers / Scaling correctly. I agree with his assessment but not the scores in this video. Here's my take:
S = Ge6000, Ge8000, GTX 200, GTX 10, RTX 30-MSRP
A = Ge7800, GTX 400, GTX 600, GTX 900
B = Ge7900, GTX 500, GTX 700, RTX 40
C = GeFX, Ge9000, GTX 16
D = GeFX, GTX 800, RTX 20, RTX 30-Scalp
F = Ge300, GTX 1, GTX 300
If you see a pattern there you're not mistaken. Always get S-Tier, occasionally get A-tier, and try to avoid B-tier and lower. As a consumer, an upgrade path was advantageous for your from the (2004) Ge6800 to Ge7800 GTX-512 (2005), Ge8800 GTX (2006), GTX 280 (2008), GTX 470 (2010), GTX 680-4GB (2012), GTX 980Ti (2015), GTX 1080Ti (2017), RTX 3080-MSRP (2020). That's 9 card purchases over 16-Year span, not too shabby but definitely not as longevity as a Home Console which sees minimum 5-Year relevancy.
I'm amazed by how quickly my mood can still turn at the mention of how hard we all got bent over by scalpers and cryptodouches with the 30 series, and how Nvidia seems to think that keeping those jacked up prices is acceptable for the 40 series now that the extraordinary one-off surge in demand is over. It's absolutely rage-inducing.
Absolutely insane I remember when i was shopping for a gpu before the crypto craze i think it was a 2070 or 1080 and it was only like 1600 nzd which is like 900 usd. Recently found my friend bought a rog strix 3080ti from the same place for 3300 nzd which is like 2400 usd. Fucking wild
He bought it jan of last year but still over 2k usd for a 3080 card is crazy
Were not dead yet. Will not buy em
@@bannabanana6950I’ve seen 3080’s new for around 900. Haven’t looked at prices in a month though
I have a feeling the 50 series will come back down a bit, it’s going to be like how the car market got crazy and is coming back down, once everyone who can afford those crazy prices has their card companies are going to have to start appealing to the average consumer again.
Linus walked us through 20 years in 30 mins. I love it 😁
I bought a 17" Toshiba laptop in 2006 with a 7900GTX in it and I had almost immediate regret when the 8000 series came out around 6 months later, the performance gap blew my card away. Love the way you properly captured generation to generation excitement and expectations.
Also glad you mentioned the end of AGP support. Last year I built a retro Pentium 4 PC and needed to figure out what the best maxed out AGP card was. Got lucky and found an EVGA 256-A8-N509-AX compatible with my board.
Crazy how he didn’t mention more on how the 1080 Ti absolutely cemented the entire series into S tier.
After all these years , that card is still relevent and can play all the latest games , no problem . That's really impressive.
Because all the cards where amazing I think. I used a 1060 untill 4 weeks ago. And it was 250$ GPU 2016. That kind of long terme support and usability was unheard before. The 1060 was the most used GPU well up into 2022 for a reason. That kind of bang for the bug didn't exist before and will probably never exist ever again.
Everything was good on the 1000 series, not just the 1080ti. The 1070, the 1060, they were all high quality cards in their price points. Hell even the 1050
It's weird because I know it had insane performance at the time, yet my 2060 is almost faster and it was way cheaper too
@@adxo lol no. 1080 ti is just as fast a 2080.
10 series was definitely S tier with the 1080ti being an absolute beast. The 3000 series is a little tougher as the price at msrp was great and performance was good but as we’re starting to see now, the limited vram in 3060ti-3080 is started to pose a threat to the longevity of the cards playing some newer titles at 1440p and higher resolutions.
Games can't increase their VRAM requirements because console VRAM isn't increasing until a new generation comes out
Those card will be alright for a while
the fact the 1060 is gonna be 7 years old this year and its still listed a minimum requirement gpu is pretty insane. such a valued card for 1080p for the people who bought it new.
@@joebob2699 consoles have 16gb gddr6 which while being shared with system still could easily allow for 12-14 allocated to gpu when needed. This gives current gen consoles some headroom over the 3070’s 8gb and 3080’s 10gb which have both suffered from vram related issues in Hogwarts Legacy and Dead Space Remake
My 1070ti still kicks ass
Glad you mentioned the 200 series favorably. A number of years ago, my dad got a sweet deal on an Alienware M15X in 2014 and it was the first gaming laptop I'd ever owned. (Mind you, I didn't buy laptops that often) Compared to every laptop and integrated graphics workstation I'd been on before that from the late 90s and early 2000s, it was absolutely mind-blowing to me at the time.
I have huge nostalgia with the 600 series. It was the first time I started building PCs for people and I used the 760/660/ti for a lot of my friends. And a few Radeon 7000 cards. Though the peak of GPUs, for many is the 1000 series. My 1070 still going strong bought brand new the month it released. Would love to upgrade if prices weren't insane.
It's so crazy for me as a 23 year old seeing how they went from a card like the FX 5000 in 2003 when I wasn't even in preschool yet to something like the 4090 now when I'm coming out of college. The amount of progress they made in 20 years is insane. They managed to do that much in just a part of my lifetime. Of course there was some short comings on that journey and the pricing recently is really high but it's still very impressive and I can only wonder what new features or developments will come in the next 20 years
I was in it a few years earlier and yeah... Lemme say going 550 Ti to 3080 has been a trip.
I know it's crazy 😂
Honestly, I have to say I find that the rate of progress in computers and gaming much slower now than 20+ years ago. Sure the number are impressive but in the 90s it felt like there was a total revolution every year.
Probably not much considering nvidia themselves said they want to go the apple route of seeming premium and revolutionary and jacking up prices every time they can, but doing the minimum of effort under the hood. Current RTX40 gen is a clear exemple of that and RTX50 is already known to be an iteration of the same concept, they don't plan on transforming their current architecture to be more cost effective anytime soon.
The good news is if people don't keep chasing ever bigger resolutions that really don't matter anymore, mid range cards will deliver all the perf you need to get as many frames as your screen can output. Top 3d games today already look borderline photorealistic if they want to so we're in a good place I'd say.
The pricing was the where the progress went most
Oh man, memory lane. I had a 7900GS and then moved up to an 8800GT and it was so epic. I had that 8800GT for years and years until I moved up to an R9 290 lol. Glad to know that 8000 series was the best generational leap ever, I knew there was a reason I upgraded after just one gen.
This was a nice trip down memory lane. I had an FX card (not the 5800 but one of the even shittier down tier ones) and I'm pretty sure it was a downgrade, if not in performance then definitely in happiness, from my Voodoo 3. Then I got a 8800 a few years later and that thing is absolutely legendary.
Hahaha I still remember my FX 5200 in my XP days. Didn't pick it myself but played darn many games with it.
Can we get more videos like this please? It's basically a straight up information download and it's awesome. The list of questions and things I have to research after watching this is huge, I love it.
seriously! so much great info in here that helps buyers make sense of a very confusing lineage of products that are so susceptible to marketing gimmicks.
He did worst to beat right after saying best to worst tho
Nah b
I'd love to see an AMD card (ATI included) tier list one day. This one was great
What about an intel GPU tier list
@@zaphod4245 That... would be a very short list, since ARC came out literally last year
Indeed. Remember the 9800 Pro?
Me too....😍❤
@@TheByQQ intel havd try get in market before arc too. But they fail...😣
The 900 and 1000 series will always be insane coming off the back of the 780ti. Just being 14 back then, not long having built my first PC and always knowing the 780ti and titan series as the be all end all and then seeing the performance and cost AND power efficiency upgrade for all the cards was crazy to me back then. And then the 1000 series blew my mind all over again.
Also can we talk about those early 2000s(the decade) cards doubling performance and halving the price? Some of that nowaday?? Maybe not paying over $500 for a decent 1440p card nvidia?
I went from Voodoo 2 to 6800 to 260 to 760 to 1080Ti to 3080 now, I am pretty happy with my choices so far :). Good list!
My path was very similar to yours. Voodoo2->7800 (single at first then SLI)->275->750->1060 (6GB). Most of these were second hand so I'm usually a few years behind the curve, hence I'm still on the 1060 but plotting my next move, so currently re-watching a load of videos like this one!
@@garethr1970 Nice! Good luck finding your next GPU!
This video made me appreciate how the EVGA design team evolved over the years. It's a gorgeous card after another, I will miss them cards...
I don't get why people like the EVGA 3000 cards, they're so overdesigned and bulky I just don't see the appeal
@@cash_banooca17 EVGA cards came with EVGA customer service.
@@afivey Yea but that doesn't have to do with the designs
@@cash_banooca17 now u get it
@@cash_banooca17 exactly
I think overall the best was the 1080TI, used it for 5+ years.
overall the 8000 gtx is by far Nvidia's finest
Yea passed down my 1080Ti to my lil bro a few months back, fuckin awesome card. On a 6900XT now
1080Ti is the value mistake Nvidia will never make again.
GTX10 was fire. 1080 for $499, 1080Ti for $699 (NV got scared of Vega which was meh), GTX 1060 for $249 and the amazing value 1050Ti with 4GBs for $149.
@@danielmdax 1060 6GB might have been the best price/longevity deal I ever made. I used that card until the end of '22. I only upgraded cause I managed to get a 3060 for sub-$350 prices.
@@IrisCorven This is really it. Sure as a enthusiast card 1080ti was great value. However the 1060 6gb was really the one that sold and it was also great value. There is a reason why it was the most popular card on Steam until late 2022.
First card was a Voodoo3. Had other cards like Geforce 4400ti and when I got a used 9700Pro I could see how crazy powerful this was at the time. 9700pro was like a 1080ti almost for its day.
even better if you snagged a 9700 non pro and simply flashed the bios making it a 9700 pro lol
I waited 10 hours in line at a best buy when I found out they were restocking(back during the shortage). I wanted a 3070 ti but by the time I got to the front the only ones they had left were 3090. Sleep deprivation got the best of me. Ended up getting it and still don’t regret it
This was very fun. Tier lists usually bore me, but the baked in history lesson made it very informative.
Same thought here!!
GTX1070 hands down was and still the greatest purchase I’ve made till this day. I’m still rocking this gpu and after 6-7 years & still holds its performance strong. It’s a pity I’d need to upgrade soon to 3070 due to work requirement.
Same here, ive got a 1070ti from the very start and still going to strong!
@@exzer5507 Me too.
Me too! Just upgraded from 1070 to 4070 Ti last week. The only reason I upgraded is because I bought a new LG 4K C2 OLED gaming TV and the 1070 simply cant handle 60 fps gaming on 4k. Other than that the 1070 manages to play games at 1080p just fine for the last 6 years at 60 fps. I love that card! Best $350 spent on a card!
@@InOLuvShiKa did you also have to upgrade your cpu or still using the old one? If you don’t mind sharing
@@Mojohoojo187 I actually upgraded my CPU back in 2020 from i7 2700k to i7 10700. Sure there might be some bottlenecks in 1080p resolution but I now mostly play games on 4K resolution and the bottleneck on this resolution is less than 10% so I'm totally ok with it and didn't feel the need of upgrading the CPU again this time. This thing still rocks 👍
I am almost 50 years old and I have been a gamer my entire life. My biggest wow effect was with the Diamaond Monster 3d 3dfx card and Wing Commander Prophecy. Never ever since that moment there was such a big leap in visual enhancement than that. The Diamond Monster was an add on, you needed a graphics card on top and it cost 380 $ but boy was it worth it for awhile.
Great list.
In 2014, I had two GTX 760s in SLI and loved them. In 2017 I upgraded to a 1070 and loved the cost/performance. In 2021 I got a 2070 super for $200 and still biding my time until prices aren't ridiculous. With a Samsung Odyssey G7 @ 1440p and 240hz refresh rate, I basically need a 4080 just to get even close to that FPS.
The 6600gt, 8800gtx, 560ti, 970 and 1060 are probably the most well-known cards that were still listed years later as "recommended" specs or good second hand cards. They were all incredible.
The 6600GT was such a bargain! ❤️
1080s are so cheap the past 2 months that they stomp those 1060s for just 20% more and 85% more performance. i feel like they took that spot lately
970
I just bought a 1080TI because my 2070 broke and I needed a cheap replacement and it just blow my old 2070 out of the fucking water, in 2023 lol
I finnaly retired the 1060 6gb for a Noctua 3070 OC, but that card was amazing. Traded my dad a 970 and $50 for it too.
Good to see that you rated the 8800 GTX and the 10 series as S tier. Those cards were legends for their respective times.
8800 GTX - the original card that "could run Crysis" 😁
I had an 8600 GT that was passively cooled. It was a PoS. My 10 series is doing better. I dipped in the middle with a 6950, so I'd be keen to know if that was an S tier generation as well (from memory it was my longest lived card).
g80 the ATi slayer, a legendary GPU.
Would have liked to see 1660 Super mentioned with its enhancements to original. Very great video. Recently inspired to build my first PC after watching scrap wars. Thank you.
Long ago, I decided to upgrade my GPU, so I wnt and bought a 980Ti. Two weeks later, the 1080 was announced, and I was somewhat disappointed. The 980Ti was great, but I had just missed a much better deal and card overall. Recently, I decided to upgrade that to a better card. Picked out a 2060 Super (due to budget)...and hovered and hesitated over the 'Buy' button. I decided to wait a week. 6 days later, the 30 series was announced, and I breathed a sogh of relief this time. Then card scalping prices happened. Lucky for me, a few weeks after release, I got in and got a 3070 Ti FTW for retail price. Glad I hesitated this time-much happier than I would be with a 3070 Ti than a 2060 Super...
My EVGA 1070 must be one of the best cards I ever owned. It ran games back then great and lasted me all the way through covid and the shortage spectacularly. I've since upgraded to EVGA's 3080 but I remember the 1070 fondly.
My MSI GTX 1070 is the best GPU that I have ever owned, bought it back in 2016 and it ran amazing till 2021 till I sold it and bought a RTX 3070, now I have upgraded to a 3080Ti but do I miss my 1070 more than my 3070.
I feel ya’ll. 2019 started with rx 580 4gb it sucked went right to 1070 within 3 weeks got it refurbished from Zotac for 175$ then a 2070s a year later and it felt like no upgrade. Then a 3070 7 months later and I finally felt an upgrade but the 1070 was more than capable at 1440p even on games like Metro Exodus without rtx on. Actually the 1070 did higher frames with rtx off than the 2070s did with rtx on. So it felt like a downgrade. Because rtx off on 2070s was only like 10% more frames tbh on that game.
The 1070 for 175$ in 2019 would be like getting a 3070 for 175$ today. Crazy good deal
my 1070 lasted me for a good 7 years before i replaced it with a 6700xt. absolutely nothing wrong with it. powerhouse through and through
so cool to see the love for the 1070. my "old" rig, which is mostly stuff from 2010, i threw a 1070 in, and it runs 2020 era games great! massive performance, just a stellar card.
Still using my MSI 1070. However, I'm planning to build a new pc very soon, so I'll enjoy it until its time to retire it.
I appreciate you splitting the RTX 30 series cards on the tier list. I managed to get one for MSRP a month after they came out. During that time I had a restock website open and constantly refreshing websites. Stayed up super late nights for the illusive late night/early morning restocks. I even joined an nvidia discord server to stay up to date on the hunt.
It was more exhausting than simply buying a product ever had to be. And honestly no matter how good the next generation of cards are, im never doing that again.
I was super fortunate that when I was looking to buy my first PC, I managed to find one on FB marketplace. As much as I would have liked to have built it myself, buying the individual parts pack in 2021 would have cost an absurd amount. But I managed to get my prebuilt for only $1450, with a 3070 and i7-10700F. Having been able to get the 3070 without ant particularly insane levels of stress, I actually love it as a card. It's a huge jump from the laptop 1070 that I was using for a long time, although tbf that 1070 really went above and beyond what I ever expected it to do. For a laptop GPU, it went crazy. Even though it would only be pushing maybe 30ish fps on large AAA games, that was still impressively smooth for how old the card was and how hot it would run. I eventually sold the laptop to my brother, because he was trying to game on a crappy laptop with integrated graphics that would die trying to run anything
i also joined one of those servers and then it turned out the server admin was a genuine groomer acting creepy towards minors so i left. managed to snag a 3080 at retail price though through pure luck, it served me well until a few months ago when i sold it to my brother steeply discounted as a christmas present.
3:53 Another thing worth noting was the graphics APIs. ATI cards didn't support bump mapping or other graphical effects that the Nvidia cards did. Some games of the time had most of their textures bump mapped. Imagine playing Doom 3 without bump mapping. Escape from Butcher Bay was another heavily bump mapped title, but most people don't know what that is.
Bought a 2070 super 8 gig card when they launched, happy with the value just because I got in right before prices went absolutely crazy. Still rocking it today!
same for me
is it good to buy 1080 or 2060 now? or wait?
@@bane8305 I think the performance diff between the new stuff and the old stuff is too big to buy them now. Wait for a good deal imo.
@@Mystery_Meat yeah i dont want a new one like 3000 or 4000 but maybe a 1080? or 2060? what you think ?
@@bane8305 Just get a 3060. The performance is just better for the price.
I cant wait for an amd version of this! these videos are basically history recaps and its great for new comers to the hobby to learn and see how things have evolved.
Though it's still only part of the history. The really early days (I guess before Linus -was old enough- got into this ;-)) are missing.
Usually not a big fan of tierlists but I loved this video. It was very informative and kind of felt like I was speedrunning Nvidia history. Will you do something like this on AMD/ATI cards as well?
The 1080 is up there but I think the 8800 edges it out slightly for its impact relative to the pc gaming market at the time. That card was being used by so many folks for years. I feel like the 1080TI will overtake it in a few years in terms of impact
Kudos to you guys and most other tech journals/enthusiasts/reviewers at the time, since from what I can recall during the early days everyone unarguably recommended the now-S-tier cards. Went through 8800GTX -> 7850 (AMD, not sure which tier would it be today) -> 1060 -> 3060 (after price dropped) and loved each of those cards.
The 8800 GTX will always have a special place in my heart. I remember managing to convince my parents to choose it when we were buying the old family PC from Dell. It was such a beast, had it paired with the Q9300 processor, all my friends had the Q6600 though which I'm sure plenty of people remember the OC wars with that one.
Same! Had the 8800 GT (still have it in original box) with a Q6600 and remember very well when my room mate bought a Radeon 4870 X2 and Q8300 and I out-performed that beast of a card in Crysis 😄
Not for very long though, in true Radeon fashion the early drivers were utter garbage..
And in a way you did not mislead them. They got their money’s worth unlike with some of the recent top tier cards!
For all the flak the RTX 20 series got at launch, I think it managed to turn things around dramatically as drivers matured and more games began supporting DLSS and optimized ray-tracing. I remember never even wanting to bother with ray-tracing when I first got my EVGA RTX 2070 Black, as it basically just ensured a cinematic experience. But roughly four years later, I'm coming back to games like Shadow of the Tomb Raider and Control, and keeping well above 60fps at 1440p with DLSS, ray-tracing, and most settings at or near max. I mean, without DLSS it's kinda of a poopshow, but don't say RTX never gave you nuthin.
Also, I got mine for well under $500 right before the pandemic, so definitely no complaints.
Yes, RTX 20 series really aged well and one generation had to start it all. Otherwise we wouldn't have DLSS and Raytracing nowadays.
In a vacuum the 10 and 30 series were far better, but considering the mess of a GPU market that followed, the 20 series turned out to be a decent buy.
@@jfolz I think you just about nailed it.
the 16 series came out at the perfect time for me. i had a crudy gtx 745 oem in my prebuilt and was just looking for something solid and found the 1060, but they were already being phased out and were more expensive new (like 300+ dollars at the time?) than the 1660 ($219), which was basically a marginally better 1060 anyways. was great for a first time buyer needing something capable of playing more modern (at the time) standards. still running it today and plays plenty of recent-ish stuff
S-tier video. No question.
As for the cards, I think the best graphics cards ever released were the 1080 and 1080 Ti. I'm running a 1080 and can still run dang near every single game at 1080p (the standard of the time). That was 6 years ago!
My only disagreement is the 4000 series. I'd put it at A tier. Yes, it is expensive AF, but we have had brutal inflation lately, so it's bad, but not *as bad* as it seems. Ultimately, though, I think the Lovelace architecture is the star here. The 4090 is bananas expensive, but it can get 80 FPS on the most demanding full-path RT games *before* DLSS at 2k. And *with* DLSS it can get buttery smooth performance or even playable performance at 4k.
I may update this comment after I try out of the 4090 in-person (as, 6 years after my last upgrade, I am officially going bleeding edge with my new rig arriving next week), but I feel like the value in the 4000 series isn't in the performance exactly, it's in the full-path RT image quality. Full-path RT isn't the future, it's the present, and it's nearly as transformative as the jump from pixels to polys, imo, and the 4000 series is the first one that can really do the job.
So what do you think of the 40 series card ya got?
Used 1060 6gb, 980ti, and now using the 3070.
3070 really surprised me that the frames went doubled compared to the 980ti.
All three cards are great in value until now and I will keep my 980ti which I have used for over 4 years.
But yeah.. it’s a pity that I haven’t used the 1080ti.
Still rocking a 980 ti. Woot woot! Ride til it dies!
@@i_like_hike 980ti still rocks even on AAA games on 1080p@60fps!
Incredible gpu till today!
still happy with my msi 1060 6gb. It was probably the best value back in 2016 for what I had in my pockets
@@llamateur very true. I mostly play Fortnite with some friends and it hits between 120-144 on my 1440p monitor. Obviously this is an optimized game and I’m not running ultra settings but it’s hard to justify upgrading while it’s still running no questions asked.
I also have my 980ti on the shelf, I left it for a 3080 last year but let my buddy use it while he was waiting on a card. It is still very capable at 1080p and even 1440p!
30 minute video!?!?! Yeah, it was great. I watched all of it. Great presentation covering all of the old gen stuff and how they ranked. 👍
I still like the 970. The price on those cards was so good for what you got. I also feel like the 3.5GB stuff never turned out to be the huge problem people were hyping it up to be. the 970s never seemed to lose a lot of ground to the "real" 4GB 980 even after games started allocating more than 3.5GBs and the next gen we would be a making a pretty big jump to 8GBs. For the price difference I still stand by 970>980 with that generation and 3.5gate long in the rear view mirror.
970 is a legend in my book, buddy ran 2 in SLI and gave me one of them when my 780 broke, it kept strong until end of last year when i replaced it with a 3080 but just reoiling the fans kept the 970 kicking.
@@axlfrhalo Same. I jumped from the GTX 670 (which I wasn't that into) and when I saw the price vs the 980 I decided to just get 2x 970s instead. 😂 I did up swapping out to a 1080 fairly quick though only skipping the 980ti's release (but the 10xx series was a pretty large jump in performance compared to normal generation and SLI was starting to fall off).
I had the ASUS Strix versions at the time which required a pretty heavy load to even get the fans to spin and were super quiet.
The 1080Ti FTW3 was my first ever GPU in the first PC I ever had. I've only just upgraded it and it is by far the best card ever made if you ask me. I used to be able to afford the highest end components, now with more money I get mid range at best.
I think the 2000 series got its fair bump when the Super variants were finally introduced, as they did not uplift in msrp, but they sure did improve a lot on the lacking performance leap vs 1000 cards. I'm still happy with my 2070S running all my modern AAA games on my 3K monitor, and while I do truly wanna upgrade to the 4000 series, I am not in any rush to do so. If I had the regular non-Super variant, I might have bit the bullet on one of the more recent gpus.
For reference I have a 2070 non super and theres no way im upgrading to 40 series with these prices. I can still run any game at like 80 fps at 2k on a mix of medium to high settings
2070 S was one of my best cards. Well balanced for 1440p.
Same Still Rocking my 2070Super and think I can wait for 5000 Series before needing an Upgrade.
20 series aged well. Dlss sucked at launch but now dlss 2.0 is awesome.
I got my 2070 to replace a 1070 and was called stupid at the time. Well all the 20's series adopters turned out to be wise investors when pandemic pricing hit and my "overpriced" card was suddenly cheap in comparison. Also you hit the nail on the head with DLSS and I happily played Cyberpunk when my friends were complaining about the performance of their 1080's LOL
In hindsight, very glad I bought a 3070 at launch. It was bit of an impulse buy, and I had to deal with some early driver issues (even had a little buyers remorse), but omg, the value and longevity is definitely S tier and I dodged the mining scalping bs. This card will last me quite some time.
I just bought a Noctua 3070 1 month ago for $750, glad prices came down
Yeah, I'm glad I grabbed a 3080 at launch similarly. Or, well, I put in an order for one at launch and got it like 3-4 months later, but still it was MSRP, and cost less than what I'd paid for a 1080 Ti some years before! (Work with graphically intensive games so didn't buy these just for personal use, and also got tax deductions.
@@peterzwart2357 wtf 750? That seems insanely expensive for the performance, yikes
Same. I got a 3060 Ti at launch for $600 AUD - and I’m still rocking it today. Fantastic card considering what it could do, and how much I paid for it.
And it paid for itself too, mining in my downtime.
Bought a 2080, it stopped working with 3 months left on the warranty.
Got a refurb 3070 as a replacement. Best value i've ever had from a graphics card.
Gotta agree with this, in fact, until last month, when I could get a 30 series at MSRP, I had been running a 1070 ti with practically zero issues for years. Great cards, hopefully this 3070 ti lasts me just as long haha
I've beat that card to hell with over clocks, I've personally had it for over three years and its running just as fine as the day I got it, don't worry too much
The last time I bought a graphics card, the GTX Titan was like the big boy, but I waited a little and picked up an R9 290 for like a third of the price and had very similar performance. I still have that R9 in my PC with my sweet old Phenom II X4 965 BE CPU (yeah....probably time for a new PC, but it still does everything I need, except for editing, but I got a top spec Surface Pro for that and it works great).
I got a 3060 ti at msrp at launch and I can say I'm pretty happy. I definitely agree with the S tier choice. Only $400 usd for an insane card like the 3060 ti
I scored a 3060Ti for close to MSRP myself and the difference in 1440P coming from a GTX 1660 super was pretty good. I can see myself rocking it for many years.
i got a 3060ti a few months ago for 330$ used, couldn’t be happier
Same, got mine at MSRP shortly after launch. Upgraded from a GTX 970 since it was struggling to push new titles to 144, and the performance uplift was simply jawdropping to me. Max quality 1080p at 144 for most games is no problem, I've been loving it. Might jump to 1440p144 or might give 1080p240 a shake, not sure which yet.
@@YuriZakhaev i’m going 1080p240 rn, got an xg2431 for like 280$ on sale and this thing is insane, it’s ips and has some of the best motion clarity on a monitor out right now
@@YuriZakhaevI know, it's amazing. I went from APU to 1050 2gb to the 3060 ti and the difference was incredible to say the least. I run 165hz 1440p and most games it runs smooth
Fun fact: The 9800 GTX+ came back rebadged as a GTS 250 - they were even compatible to run together in SLI. This was the setup I had for over a year back in the day... good times 😅
The GTS 240 was the 3rd rebadge I was curious if anyone else would mention it. Since how many cards got 3 lives. Kinda surprised it didn't earn an honorable mention in the video
I had both of those cards and planned to try SLIing them, but never got around to it, the 250 did have less memory though.
I ran those two in SLI as well! Or so I thought... I recall checking on my settings about a year after I bought the GTS 250 and found that SLI had been disabled at some point, and I was just running on one card in games. No idea how long that second card was just sitting there not doing anything.
The first build I put together had 560ti SLI, next build had a 770, and now I'm still using a 1070. I've been very happy with all of my nvidia cards and thankfully I haven't needed to upgrade my 1070 yet, maybe next generation if they ever drop the damn price.
Personally, I have very fond memories of my GeForce 6600 GT. It was one of two cards (the former was the GeForce4 MX 440) that took me through the games of my childhood, and by my count was the card that stayed with me the longest. The card itself is now in the box, on the shelf of functional components, having its own special place on it, as well as in my memory, and the only thing wrong with it is the fan that has gone to the land of eternal low revolutions and well-greased bearings.
My first graphic card was XFX 8600gt. I was excited like hell. The box it came was in a X shaped and with a Green Lantern Dog on the cover. Ahh... those were the days. Currently using 1070 8 GB for over 4 years now...
Same. Using the 1070 8g on X-plane 12 and it runs it really well at 1440.
Managed to get a 30 series laptop at msrp, with desktop equivalent pricing at launch.
For me 30 series was S tier af, i was and still am stoked. I frikking love my laptop and im riding smooth until 50 or possibly 60 series.
My first major gaming pc had dual GTX 285s in it and they were monsters. I remember playing crysis on that thing. Also the time I got heavily into overclocking and watercooling with some swiftech products. That setup lasted me till I picked up some dual GTX 660 in sli.
Hoping you do an ATi/AMD version of this. I haven’t owned an nvidia card since the 8800GT and I agree that thing was amazing. With GPU prices the way they are, looks like I’ll be sticking with AMD for “ok” performance compared to the big green. I bought a 6700 non-xt after sticking with a RX 480 for five years because of the cost increase. Still, the 6700 is the most I’ve ever spent on a video card.
I've got a 6700XT and I absolutely love the AMD way. Adrenaline is extremely easy to use and brings that old wacky charm to PCs I think. It was a massive upgrade from my vega 11 ahaaha
Same. I have tried a few nVidia GPUs, but have been on AMD since the 8800GT. Rocking a RX 6800 XT that somehow I managed to beat bots to and get for MSRP on launch day. If that card would have stayed at that price, it would have beaten the RTX 3000 series into dust for most raster games with it's value (it sure has hell beats it for VRChat in VR lol yay VRAM).
I got a used 6800 still in warranty for 400€ recently, sadly the games I play have engine issues more than GPU issues, like kingdom come deliverence, but overall it was a nice upgrade from my vega56, could had waited the 7000's but I was also attracted to the huge vram which are very nice to have since I like to play heavy modded games like fallout4 and skyrim (where vram is king)
Yeah even after the horror show I had with drivers for my last AMD setup (290X crossfire) it looks like my GTX1080 will be getting replaced with and AMD card when the time comes. Prices are absolutely through the roof.
I haven't owned an Nvidia card. ;-)
As someone who got into the PC gaming scene during the GTX 900 series launch, I appreciate seeing the history of Nvidia's and AMD's cards. Great video!
Unloved at release, FX5800 is now collector's value going for inane prices. FX5900 is a more common card in nowadays retro PC community for they are the last flagships that are able to work in Win98 with ForceWare ver.45.23 for all the legacy compatibility features. Also, it is the last flagship legacy card to support 3.3volt AGP (except for some selected weird 6800GT editions but those only work with newer drivers).
After using the 2060 12GB for almost a year now, my conclusion is that the 20 and 30 series had a lot of wasted potential. I enjoy using the card for 1080p gaming, it's solid. NVIDIA's current trend of memory bus frugality started here though, as well as subpar VRAM sizes, and most of this is due in part to the lack of competition in the RTX space.
Your disclaimer that anybody who got the 30 cards at MSRP was in an A tier or S Tier is completely reasonable, and could've been the case with 20 series cards too if it wasn't the first RTX generation. Funny that the 2060 12GB price on your sheet just had a "?" but it's pretty accurate. At launch they used pandemic scalper prices I'm sure, once the 3050 + 3060 hit shelves ime the 2060 12GB price fell dramatically even though it was outperforming the 3050 and had more VRAM than one of the 3060 variants and the 3060 Ti.
I was able to get my 2060 12 GB direct from EVGA for $239, due to NVIDIA strangling their board partners I think the 2060 12GB chips just stopped getting manufactured/provided, as EVGA announced within a month of my purchase they were getting out of the game entirely, and the prices + supply never really stabilized.
The old cards with their own drawings on them looked so damn pretty they should definitely bring that back.
Don’t some companies sell waifu edition cards?
They’ve evolved into anime girls
@@ZaHandle Devolved*
No mroe art in the world - everything is soulless and sterile now. Most artistic creativity and ancient knowledge was destroyed/hidden by the west starting in the first world war and continuing in the second world war. Look at buildings built in the last ~100 years. Soulless architecture.
@@OilFreeFeathersTTD?
I fondly remember the 2004-2009 period in computing, where each generation saw these insane jumps in performance and value. I kept up to date by reading the printed PC magazines at my scholl's library haha.
Thank you Linus this brought back some killer memories
Started with the ati 9200se @ 128mb
Moved up to the Nvidia en7900GS @ 256mb
Got my first "power house" the 560ti @ 1GB of DDR5 (lol)
Finally got a good card, the GTX 1060 @ 6GB
The 1060 has been keeping up with games since 2017 and has given me the best run for my money.
I've been playing on a 980 since.... I don't know, like 2015 or 2016. Finally decided to upgrade this year since I make way more money now than I did back when I was working at Slaveway and my PC is really showing it's age. Got an ASUS TUF RTX 4070Ti for a cool $1237 shipped. It's not that I'm a hardware enthusiast or anything, I just don't want to have to upgrade my PC for another almost-decade and I've been kicking the can down the road for so long that I can't really continue flogging my 980 and i5 4590k anymore. A buddy of mine put the build together for me and I'm just buying the parts here and there. I have to say though, even being severely CPU bottlenecked, the 4070Ti is a drastic and welcome improvement over the 980. I went from barely being able to run RE:Village on the lowest settings to being able to comfortably run RE:Village on the highest settings. Now I just need to get over this flu from hell and go back to work to drop another $1200 on the rest of the parts I need to complete the build. The case is on it's way, the mobo is cheap as fuck, the itty bitty little wafer thin SSD is double the storage of my current HDD+SSD setup and _fits on the motherfucking motherboard_ and an i5 13600k is literally the same price today as what I paid for my i5 4590k back in 2015 or 2016. Regardless of whether or not I overpaid for the GPU, the advances in storage and architecture among other things is insane. CPU's have dedicated coolers now and they're absolute units. I had no idea. My poor little 4590k is just running a stock CPU fan. My case only has 2 stock fans in it. Hardware has gotten so crazy that I now need a dedicated CPU cooler, and a full case of fans. 33% more fans on graphics cards now too. It's nutty. It's insane.
The biggest jump in performance I ever got was upgrading from a Riva128 to a TNT2. I have never been impressed that much by a graphics card again, I think. That card could run Heretic2 in 1024x576 easily! 😄
Mine has honestly been the 2070 super coming from the 1060. Understandably when the 20 series came out, the value proposition wasn't good at all, but I picked up the 2070 Super for 450 right before the 30 series launched, and features such as DLSS have kept me able to play brand new AAA titles at high resolutions without any trouble. I have no regrets.
Riva tnt was great. Out performing my friends voodoo systems dramatically was a nice change.
Man the TNT2 was such a monster. I remember playing NICE 2 and Q3 in 1280 x 960 with no issue!!
@@c0mmanderKeen RagePro > TNT2 tho
@@clamhands42069 this
going from a rx 580 4gb and hearing my computer turn into a jet engine running things like gta, to finally upgrade to a 2060 super. Its SO quiet.
Seeing Linus go over the nightmare of the 30 series launch really makes me glad I got lucky and grabbed my 3070 from the Verified Actual Gamers program LTT had a few years ago.
I think the 1060 6GB was the best card ever created because it was one of the very few times when a lower mid-range card could max out games released during that generation at 1080p (which was like crème de la crème) and 60 FPS and unfortunately that was the last time we ever saw that again
I'm still with my 1060 I bought for 200 bucks or so. I've would like to upgrade to a double performance, but I'm not paying double price.
@@dracalat2510 You’ll definitely be in for an upgrade within the next year or so. Insane little card but it’s starting to show its age
Im still annoyed that young me did not know that a 3gb version of the 1060 existed, which i of course ended up buying.
Good trip down memory lane! The 8800 GT was the first GPU I have ever bought on it's own. It replaced some ATI card from my prebuilt Dell.
I still got that piece of history around somewhere.
This is the best Tier Lists I've ever seen. I love that you have all the actual cards on hand for B-Roll
It was also really informative, which basically unheard of from tier lists
Yeah this was a good list, only thing I would change is to bump the RTX4000 down to D-tier
Yeah, this one has actual effort and research put into it, head and shoulders above every other tier list I've seen!
Damn you Linus, I stumbled upon this old video and now I spent several hours digging and investigating which GPUs and 3D accelerator cards I ever had in my PC, starting way back in 1995 with S3 ViRGE… (and I'm still missing at least one card in the list).
I'm actually so happy I picked up an RTX 2080 windforce on launch Sept 2018. The thing has been extremely stable with the extra airflow, and has never throttled playing games like Elden Ring on a 1440p main monitor, with a second monitor up at 4K. Definitely wasn't a revolutionary card, but snuck in for a good pick-up just before the ridiculous GPU price hike that would have priced me out of the market for anything comparable.
the 970 after the whole 4gb debacle was absolute KING for value, I remember some retailers even selling it for around 200euros on sale! Absolute insane pricing for the performance. Lasted me till I bought a 3070. Because some games really were starting to become unplayable at 1440p even at low.
They were also availlable for 100€ used by the time the RTX cards came out. Cheap but super capable.
just made the same switch yesterday. While the 970 was awesome, its starting to struggle with these new games even at 1080p. Loved that thing to pieces.
I still have my trusty 970 stashed away can't bring myself to get rid of it haha fond memories
Did the same upgrade path
Same for me... The 970 didn't let me down for over 7 years! Just recently replaced it for a 3070.
Geforce 2 GTS was the first "gaming" card I got that was a literal game changer for me... I could play in 32 bit color! WOW!
A quick parallel comparison to Quadro cards would've been amazing.
My old 1050ti low profile was an insane powerhouse at 42w. It was on par with a base PS4, more than enough for me at the time
better than ps4, much better
Correction: I believe that it was the 10 series, not 9, that had desktop dies in laptops with the same name for the first time. The 970M, for example, was really a 960.
They didn't say it used the same name, they said it used the same dies
I love that you put the 8800 series in S Tier. A friend of a friend was getting rid of a computer he didn't like and I didn't have one so I was lucky enough to be gifted it...for free because he didn't like the pc for some reason. This was the most fun I ever had on a PC and the 8800 GTX he had in there was beautiful. I miss when cool designs/pictures were put on video cards but to each their own.
The very first card i owned was a 580. built that rig in 2010 when i was 16. Next upgrade was the 780, and i stuck with that all the way until the 2080Ti. Intending to stay on this until next gen.
Wasnt the 9800 brought out because of the Direct X situation at the time? Should have went back to 3dfx :) The voodoo 5500 64mb . LOL Good times. Great video. Im a bit older, Gen x , was at Gamespy when much of this was happening. Hardware division use to get sooooo much hardware in from MFG's and many times gave us some freebies. Rogue Spear Rainbow Six, Quake, Quake 3, CS, Tribes and Tribes 2. We have come a longgg way in hardware. What an in depth video. Many people in chat have NO idea and or were not around at the time. My favorite card. The 8800 series dominated for a long time. The 560TI was very popular as well. Then the beast, the 690. Many stuck to the 660 and 670's since the 690 was so much. Also, was way to much card for the games at the time. My friend used it for gaming and work . He was a DJ compiling digital video and compiling and it was a beast.
I'd love to see a teir list of general computer hardware. Not in terms of performance, but in terms of how much money reviewing and using said hardware made for LTT in terms of Video monetization.... I do understand that this type of data would be extremely difficult to quantify since LTT uses hardware for many different video's.
I really like these looks back to the past and seeing how much the cards have evolved, especially in bulk and power draw.
The 40 and 10 series are more than likely going to be the best remembered for the sheer amount of feature optimization they brought especially in the higher end consumer products as a full kit. Threadripper CPUs are good in a vacuum but I'd take an Intel Nvidia core that will last me many years longer than an m series Mac for the price
Wtf is an intel NVIDIA core?
@@NahBNah k sku Intel CPU and 3060 or 4060 gpu
40 series is ass, extreme prices and you can get similar raw performance for about 100 quid less (I got my 3070ti for £265 and a 4060ti is £400) these are abysmal prices
This is the best kind of content. just talk about generations of hardware over the years over and over. literally. i re watch all your old videos because I like to relive the memories. love comparing generations and specs! PhysX support started on 8000 series, not 400 series....
Something interesting I picked up on was the lack of mention of the 750ti for the 700 series, then the mention of Maxwell debuting in the 900 series, which isn't technically correct. Budget oriented gamers from that era will likely be intimately familiar with the 750ti, and I know I loved the one I had in my first ever small form factor build. It was the real debut of Maxwell, as a followup mid-series release to the 700 series in February of 2014 whereas the 900 series launched months later in September, and was (in my opinion) one of the most interesting cards NVidia ever released. Running a Maxwell powered GM107, it had a pretty damn low TDP (especially for the time) at only 60w, allowing it to be fully bus powered off of the PCIe lane. What does this mean? You could stick it in a cheap prebuilt desktop with no need to worry about power connectors on the PSU. It just worked. It was a single slot card, put out little heat, took little power, and was honestly not even that far behind the 760 for performance in popular titles at the time. As an experimental debut for Maxwell, it absolutely killed it, being a top choice for the budget or size constrained gamer. The fact that it was available at the same time as the similarly insane value Pentium G3258 made for some exciting build possibilities on a shoestring budget, even if those specs can't even run modern titles due to the low core count.
Do however note that the 750ti was Maxwell v1, thus lacking some support and features that Maxwell v2 (900-series) got.
It certainly was a popular card though.
I'm still using a 750ti for gaming and streaming.
I'm still running two 1080Tis here in 2023, and after seeing how badly everything went for prices and value adds and everything else that's been going on in the world since 2018, I have to say I still feel like I made the right decision. Why two? VR is the last holdout of SLI as far as anybody is concerned, and I'm still stubbornly holding onto those dreams as stubbornly as I hold onto my Vive controllers. Plus, turn off SLI and they are beastly for Folding@Home. Because I'm one of those nerds and proud of it.
I didn't have the 8800GTX but did have the GTS version and that card lasted me like a half decade before it died. It was an amazing card at the time. I think I paid 475 at micro center for it when it came out.
Awesome video! I hope you guys will make similar ones for AMD gpus, as well as integrated graphics from all companies (yes, nvidia motherboard chipsets included!), as well as CPUs! I love pieces like this were the info of all this time is put together in such a quick and interesting narrative, helps refresh the memory and fill in the gaps for many older generations of products ^ Even better when you go so far back that names like 3dfx Voodoo, Cyrix etc are mentioned ^
I still maintain that with the die shrink and everything the 8800 GT was almost a pre-rebrand of the 9800 GT. It was absolutely crazy and deserves its own mention as an absolute price/perf legend.
Had an FX 5000 series card as my first "Graphics Card" was for a machine that was made for me, AGP and all that. Actually didn't hate it and it being AGP I didn't really get much in the way of upgrade options until I built my own system some years later with a GTX260.
Introduced me to Morrowind as part of its games bundle so all in all I'd say I was happy with it.
in around 2017 to 2019, can't remember the exact year, i bought myself a fully custom built PC with a tuf b360-plus gaming motherboard, an i3-8400 CPU, a GTX 1050 Ti and around 8 GB of ram all encased in a antec 302 case. i've been upgrading it over the years, but nothing too out there, more hard drives, more ram, a bonus M.2 SSD, you name it. but right now i plan to actually do a far bigger upgrade, a new PSU alongside an RTX 3060 12GB, everything is set, i have the money, all i need to do is go out and buy them, install them, and update them, and i'll be set. i'm both happy about this, and also utterly terrified, "what if something will go wrong?" "what if i'm making a mistake?" i can't get it out of my head, but i hope for the best.
I'm still rocking a GTX 1080 and have been pretty happy with it. I was really surprised with the VR performance chart that you dropped.
I've been itching to upgrade to a RTX 30 series card but maybe I can hang on a bit longer and see if the prices will get better.
Same here, there's nothing I can't play well at 3440x1440 at 100Hz. I've upgraded CPUs twice (3600 and 5900X) since getting the 1080 but nothing has really felt worthwhile since
@@pieterrossouw8596 3080 is worthwhile bro trust me I'm getting 100fps rdr2 4k
Same here GTX 1080 AIO watercooled without dust on filter easy 50c while in furmark
I'm going to buy in like 2 months a used 3070 for around 360-400$ maybe less will see what can I find
Rx 6xxx is a good option, especially comparing to Rtx 3080.
@@larskoopman3671 yes either one
Seeing the old cards and how they priced the generations to each other has to make you mostalgic, getting much more performance with a new generation with only a little extra cost and having mid tier cards that outperform the last generation for less money always felt like a real technological improvement instead of maximum greed like today
If inflation is so real, then why are only GPUs affected by it? SSDs, RAM and CPU prices are going down. And that too while providing huge performance improvements. Inflation has always been a thing but the improvement in technology, Moore's law and competitions have only brought prices down. Its all is just an ngreedia shills' excuse to support overprice.
cost of R&D and salaries to workers doesn't even make a dent in all multibillion dollar corporations' billions of dollars of profits.
a 4090 die costs 300 bucks MAX to make according to wafer calcs and TSMC prices per wafer. and that 300 bucks number from calcs is too high because on the same wafer where big dies don't fit you can make smaller dies like a 4080, a 4070Ti etc. which ngreedia gets "for free" - if you account for them unlike wafer calcs do = they lower the cost of a wafer significantly.
$1600-$2000 for a less than 300 bucks 4090 die? just lol. I understand if they'd want 800 bucks for that, max. it still would be at least 200 bucks overpriced.
a 4080 die costs 150 bucks MAX - again without accounting for smaller dies that are made "for free" on the same wafer. $1200+ for that?
and ngreedia is trying to sell 60-class cut down silicon as 4070ti for 800 bucks with 12gb VRAM, they even tried to sell it like 80-class silicon for 900 bucks at first. 12gb VRAM on 800-900+ bucks cards, Carl! 12gb VRAM... in 2023... on 800-900+ bucks GPUs!!!111
12gb VRAM is fine for 3060 performance level, a 4070tie should have at least 16GB or 24Gb as a 3090. otherwise its a morally obsolete GPU, especially for 800-900+ bucks.
the 4070ti is basically a morally obsolete piece of crap suitable only for either extreme budget 1080p monitors, or for old games @1440p.
and ngreedia wants 800-900+ bucks for that ridiculous piece of crap GPU with 12GB VRAM.
the real problem is ngreedia don't really care about selling GPUs at all anymore. all they care about is selling GaaS subscriptions. that explains everything they do. servers they make can be used for AI/GaaS and bring money constantly also they are selling server time to several users simultaneously, so the same silicon is basically sold multiple times, in contrast GPUs are sold once and thats it. no more profit.
so they kill PC gaming, don't make faster GPUs with higher VRAMs and affordable prices and sane gamers are stuck with playing games with morally obsolete engines or on morally obsolete low-res screens, because affordable GPUs are way too slow.
1440p is currently the norm in PC hardware and ngreedia GPUs are way too slow for 1440p gaming, even 4090. ngreedia is killing PC gaming on purpose to sell GaaS that doesn't make sense to PC gamers due to latency.
and AMD is happy to support GPU overprice to sell more console chips to sony/ms (+ continue selling overpriced AF GPUs of course).
the only thing that looks weird is AMD apparently don't understand that without affordable new GPUs that are way faster nobody really needs new CPUs. they shot themselves in the balls by supporting ngreedia's overprice in GPU space and now their CPU sales are way down.
but maybe consoles are just THAT profitable for AMD so they just don't care.
or maybe their CEO is just stupid and was blinded by quick profits. I guess we'll never know
I was part of that class action with the 970. I was able to show how some games would natively list it as only having 3.5gb of ram until a driver update from Nvidia patched it to show 4gb.
Ended up getting a 980ti as a replacement for free. Gave my 970 strix to my brother who is still using it. Ended up throwing my old 980ti on eBay during the GPU/crypto craze and the crazy buggers bid it up to $450.
Crazy how things turn out.
still using a 970 in 2023??
@@Snxgur I was using a 770 2GB flavour up until three months ago. Still works like a tank in my media centre