Waddell Steps Down as Canes GM, Hawks-Isles Swap Draft Picks, May 24th Preview
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Heard Waddell interview in Columbus, he could be looking for a new challenge. Or he just saw how many UFA’s Carolina has and said “Nah”
Or he did a good job, wanted a raise, and got low balled because that Carolina owner doesn't want to pay up
@@CamPopplestoneNeither of which would surprise me
@@CamPopplestoneHe sure did a great job with that Kk offersheet 😂
@@julienbeaudry-tardif7982 That was dumb but the rumour was the owner wanted that move to be made
I hope his first move is re-uniting Lindholm & Johnny Gudreau!
One thing that Don Waddell did I appreciated was he really took the time to talk with fans. I remember going to the box office and DW tapped me on the shoulder and thanked us for being fans. I've heard so many other similar stories where he would talk to fans about what his role was and his day to day. Even when he was out and about doing things in his personal life like grocery shopping if he saw you with Canes gear, he would stop and thank you for being a fan. He was a class act. Everyone talks about what he did or didn't do as a GM, but I will remember him for his incredibly kind spirit.
Spot on. I remember a Sharks game at the PNC where Waddell was holding open the door and welcoming every fan as they came in including making the visiting fans feel welcome.
Waddell learned from his mistakes when he was in Atlanta. I am glad he turned it around. I love the Atlanta Joke THG. I can't wait to have a team back in Atlanta. I literally check the news daily to see if talks are heating up on expansion
I hope Eric Tulsky gets to keep the position. He has done great as assistant and his story of how he got to where he’s at is so fun to hear
Someone on the canes reddit suggested Justin Williams be moved into a bigger role with this change. I like that thought. Waddell resigning does seem out of left field to me, though.
Tulsky has always been looked upon as the replacement for Waddell. I would be surprised if he doesn’t become the permanent GM, he was the meat and bones behind Carolina’s team and prospects the last 4 years. One of the analytical guys who made it all the way to the top in hockey.
Fun fact: He actually started his hockey career as an analytical blogger for the Philadelphia Flyers
Don Waddell stepped down at the perfect time to save people's perception of him. Isn't it like 2/3rds of Carolina UFAs this summer? I don't envy his replacement at all.
14 UFAs and RFAs combined. And there will be a LOT of silly contracts handed out this summer.
A player could have his leg amputated and fans would say, "LOL nice excuse."
Yeah, maybe they should've gotten him healthy instead
Based on the Athletic's NHL draft pick value the Hawks paid 6.5 GSVA and got 5.9 GSVA back which is an overpay by 10.17%. I've looked through about 20 trades moving up in the first round and compared them to the Athletic's pick value chart and generally the team moving up overpays by around 10-20%, so I'd say this is pretty fair value. It is weird to me to see the trade happening before knowing how the draft board is shaking out....if there are players who look like they'll be there at 18 and not at 20 then you trade up, but if the board is working out that several players you value about equally are there at 18 you don't need to give up the extra picks since you'll get a guy you want at 20.
I literally just posted how it was puzzling but now I at least have a thought on it. Chicago may have their eye on 1-3 specific players in the mid 1st round, and plan to trade back down if they don't get them.
Possibly the trade was more the Islanders being proactive and adding picks to use as assets. I agree, it would make more sense to assess whether making this trade works on draft day if you're Chicago.
Really hope the Jackets get Waddell, much better option than the previous names like Holland or Bergevin
So many UFA’s with Canes…what a challenging summer coming and who does what……
Isles and Hawks both win. Islanders are light on NHL-quality prospects, Hawks are heavier, which means Isles are looking for quantity, whereas the Hawks are in the position where they can focus on quality.
Moving up 2 and 4 spots won't make really make a difference with quality and the trade would make more sense when you know who's actually available for those picks
@@justjohnny420
Davidson isn't done, he has seven picks in the first three rounds,
He had a buttload of picks in the last two years, and nat be looking to make a more attractive package to maybe get an extra first.
Quality over quantity.
@@justjohnny420 Isles may end up with the exact same players and an extra pick
@@justjohnny420 the isles added an extra 2nd rd pick by doing this, which helps them if they trade for someone.
The atmosphere at this Worlds is incredible. Czechia is always a great hosting country.
Pleasure to hear this, we really do enjoy it here . Its like everything that people talk about here. :)
Pretty sure the isles/hawks trade is cooking something bigger which is why it happened before draft day
This. I think Kyle from Chicago is looking to package his second 1st round pick (now No. 18) along with a pick or picks from the 2nd and 3rd rounds to move into the Top 10 . If he trades No. 18 and No. 34 (his high 2nd round pick) he will be looking to move into the Top 5-6 picks. I realize trades within the top 5-6 NHL draft picks rarely occur - just a thought.
Waddell was great in Raleigh, sucks to see him go but Eric Tulsky has had a huge say in moves for the org the last 8 years. Would be interesting to see if he moves into full time GM, would make a lot of sense
Love the Whalers gear, Shannon!
Whalers white jersey - my favourite jersey of all time!!!
Man, you were quick with this! I just saw news of the Isles/Hawks trade like 30 minutes ago.
Also, that trade is a little odd...my guess is the Hawks are looking to trade the 18th overall? Maybe that was slightly more attractive than the 20th pick.
@@puckplayer219most likely. And isles saw players they went in 2nd round. So just a quick swap and an extra pick. If it helps both teams then of course why not
@SMA2343 The trade makes more sense during the draft when you know which players are available/already taken. Usually when you move up a few spots there's a player specifically you want and don't want to lose them
The new Carolina GM really has the chance to put his own mark on the team from the start.
Love the Whaler gear!
GMDW will be missed in Carolina. There's been a lot of mistrust at the start of his trades and signings, but the last couple seasons, he made moves to Jake the team better (I mistyped this at first, but the pun works). With all the guys up for UFA/RFA this season, makes sense that someone else can deal with that.
Whoever gets him, trust the process, and let him cook.
I got to hoist the Stanley Cup over my head at his family reunion when he was with the Wings back in 98.
Let's go PANTHERS 😎!!!!
Ooo 9am and 1 pm for me for the worlds. Perfect.
based on the picks and where they are Isles win the trade, moved down 2 in first round and 4 in 2nd but got 61st for it. Now of course we need to wait 10+ years to see who really wins it
Biggest off season in probably canes history and the GM bolts....not good
Anyone who learns from their mistakes and betters themselves is alright by me!
Isles win the trade slightly. Need to refill prospect pool and/or use those extra picks to move a contract or two
Arniel got promoted to Jets head coach.
Love that jersey & color scheme
Who do you think the Blackhawks will pick at number 2
would it have helped Pettersen with Vancouver to take a break during season?
and Scott Arniel has officially been announced as Jets new head coach
Not good.
Expect more of the same of what the Jets did in the playoffs.
Very disliked coach in Columbus & dreadful record too.
It's just Lou Lamarello wanting to be different again .lol
Hey! ❤ your content so much. Curious if it’s worth mentioning that Fox is for sure playing hurt as his point production fell off a cliff after the knee on knee hit he suffered vs Capitals. Probably worth mentioning other defensemen that have to pick up their game to compensate?
Shannon if the Hurricanes or any other NHL team offered you a GM role would you accept their offer?
My understanding is that Caniacs want Tulsky to drop that "interim" next to his title right away
I met DW back in the day when he was the gm of the Orlando solar Bears against the old Atlanta knights such a class guy and real cool talking to at the time a bunch of kids. I would love to see him win at least 1 cup! As a Isles fan I wouldn’t mind him out west from what he did with the canes. HG how do the isles shed cap space to make the proper improvements to be a competitor in the East?
I’m a hawks fan and that seems like a bad trade for the hawks. They must have someone specific in mind they’re hoping for at 18.
Edit: I’ve even been hoping they would consolidate some picks, but this is bad value.
Yeah, dumbassed trade
I’m fine with combing the second rounder, but you gotta get a bigger jump than that
Let’s Go Florida!
Will Methusaleh use his extra pick at the draft table or will he trade it and the rest for some magic beans? Stay Tuned!
Nice jersey.
The Whalers final jerseys with both blue and green were their best. Not a fan of ther earlier, all-green ones. Shannon rocks the look!
Really good move for Islanders.
Really baffling move for the Blackhawks
@@gablefisk-govphost817 Yeah it is weird for the Hawks. I think they see the moving up a few spots is worth doing it now, especially if they are planning on moving up again. These are slightly higher now, so moving up might be easier on draft day.
For the Islanders, this 100% is a trade is coming move no?
Islanders might have needed that extra second either to maintain relative draft position, while moving a contract out. Or the team they've been talking with to acquire a player wants a bit more quantity and they see those 3 picks more valuable than 2.
Last Night: 1-0
P Overall: 42-29
Pick: NYR
Has Lou finally lost it? He never trades for first round picks!
What is the point of some *interim* position? - Shelley “The Machine” Levene.
My tip for the final order in the worlds is: 1.) Sweden, 2.) Canada, 3.) The Czech Republic and 4.) Switzerland. 🧡💛🧡
So is Waddell a seeks new challenges kind of guy, or were there rumblings?
Rutherford was good too, and Waddell did well in Atlanta building a good team. Columbus needs success and he can bring it.
- Don’s golf buddy
Davidson isn't done. That #18 pick won't make it to draft day. Whether they package it up to move up more, or maybe it goes to Carolina for Necas. He has something brewing there.
I was wrong about Don. When he was hired I was doubtful he could get the job done, but he did a really good job. Don also had a good alumni game performance (1g 1a i think) for a 65 year old man last year lol
Instant analysis Lou had a good laugh at Kyle Davidson's expense. Moving up 2 spots in the 1st round before 1 player has been selected is silly.
The Hawks have 2, 18 and 34. Don’t be surprised if the move 18 and 34 into the top ten. The Hawks had plenty of picks they needed to scale down. Draft night is busy so no reason it could not be done today a month before the draft.
FWIW, I am thinking along the same lines. However, to trade 18 and 34 - essentially, two 1st round picks - in a fairly deep draft, he should insist on moving into the Top 6 - 8 and not the Top 10.
Utah must be knocking
Do not mess around when there is a blood clot, glad he decided to rest.
I worry Justin Williams may get the job.
Good trade for both Chicago has a surplus of picks…might as well trade up quality, and islanders get more chances at winning prospects
Sad to see Don go cause he’s done a great job helping this team turn the corner and plow down the road. If Tulsky can handle the gig, great. Would love a veteran player in that role but that’s just me. I also hope to see Capt Willie on the bench with Rod and Tim.
I think the isles wanted to secure an extra body looking for more gems deeper?
I think that Columbus in Waddell have A deal in place? Why else would you step down from your current position?
Does anyone know if Shannon has/will do a video talking about why Dallas and Boston are his favourite teams?
(I get why Vancouver, since he’s living in BC)
I think the Waddell leaving is the shake up by ownership to get Canes past the Conference Finals
Lou is up to something
The Islanders & Black Hawks trade makes me believe even more that the Red Wings will make a trade with their #15 pick in the first round of the draft. Maybe they move up or down. Wait and see.
I'm not a Hurracames fan, but I think this means that either they gonna blow things up or at least many changes are coming. Too many UFAs, head coach most likely leaving, and new GM might want to freshen up the roster and get younger. But as a Rangers fan, I know this could change quickly. When they announced a "rebuild" in NY, it only took a couple of years, and we were in the playoffs. They need to get their goalie problem fixed, though. As long as you rely on the Andersons of the world, I don't think they will get anywhere.
Henrique could be back in game2 vs Hintz
maybe he isles want to use those picks to move a contract or 2
0- 1 yesterday, 40-31 overall. Picks: NYR
Czechia Canada
Czechia wins gold
Already both the Rangers and the Stars have must win 2nd games. You can't go on the road down 2-0. Not at this level.
1 and 0 yerstday 32 and 12 record in the playoff
Maybe the Hawks move up again.
Go HOCKS
The picks swap seems odd to me, Chicago barely moving up in the first two rounds without any indication that a given player is going to be available in the new spots.
Does Tulsky buy out KK?
If he’s gonna do it needs to be done now. I’ve defended KK in the past but they really can’t wait for him to develop much longer
Keeping Rod is an outright business decision. Rod is the reason butts starting the filling the seats at PNC. Not the players not even the playoff success. Raleigh is not a hockey town. Most people anywhere in NC only know of Rod. They associate him the Cup. Regardless of his skill (and I think he is a good coach) he has the safest coaching Job in hockey. Eventually imagine people were lose interest. Even if they keep up playoff success. So in my mind it doesn’t matter who’s GM. All that matters is people still want to see Rod and will go to games. Once that interest stops there will be a whole new set of conversations.
That trade between Chicago and Islanders is so weird, usually teams do these trades when they see a player they want is still available
Amd it’s not that big a move
The Hawks have seven picks in the first three rounds, they are probably jockeying for a more desirable position to package picks to move up or to get another first rounder.
Just spitballing here.
We are just fans, so we obviously don't know nothing, but I guess Chicago wants some guy that is expected to go around 20th in the first round, so they wanted to increase their chances of getting them. Just a silly theory of mine, but it's really the only way it makes sense to me
Canada and Swiss rematch. Now lets hope Fiala doesnt get a game misconduct again, cuz that how canada won by scoring 2 PP goals. Swiss have to stay out of the box cuz their PK is OOF
yesterday: 0-1
overall: 32-35
today:
NYR
Yesterday: 0-1
Record: 38-33
Today: NYR
WOW IM REALLY SHOCKED WINNING 2 games counts as 4 AS IMPORTANT AS THESE GAME ARE FOR NYR AND DAL NOTHING IS OVER UNTIL IT OVER 2-0 Dallas fell just this year against Vegas and turned it on NEVER LOOKED BACK and then you had Toronto claw back from 3-0 and everyone was talking about the reverse sweep after they came back to 3-2 as a NYR FAN 1st Fla 2nd I do feel it’s pivotal not dropping 2 in the garden but I don’t think it’s over after 2 but I also think the rangers have HUGE BOUNCE BACK TONIGHT
Wow. Ownership in Carolina seems ready to just let Pesce and Skjei go. The Ownership I think doesn't want pay for UFA's. He seems wedded to the NFL interchangeable cogs theory. I don't think this will work for Carolina. They look ready to regress.
Lindholm is a beauty. You will be lucky to keep him.
Puckie the Whale 🐳 😀
How can you say Florida figured out Igor, they scored 1 goal on him? Laf scored the other and an empty netter. 0. 925 save % ?
We're doomed. Florida is just a amazing team
Picks (33/71)
Yesterday: 0/1
Today: NYR
Yesterday: 0-1
Overall: 31-40
Today: Rangers
What a turn of events now wanting to resign Lindholm
First time being first! 😅
I liked Waddell, he put a great team on the ice this year, but we just can’t seem to put it all together.
He can't find good goalies. He never has
@@JarradBruessel32 Kochetkov?
@@jacksonperry8283Have to let him play. Clearly they had more faith in Freddy Anderson
@@JarradBruessel32More like he couldn't find goalies that could stay healthy for a whole season.
@@kevinstull8552 100%
Revival of the trap?
Yesterday: 0-1
Overall: 40-31
Rangers
Islanders might win this as they have more trade tools
Sign and trade heronk, package Ilya Mickheyev with him
Sorry, but if Pettersson had such issues with his knee for basically half the seaason, why did he play in such meaningless matches like the final two of the season vs CGY and WPG? Nothing was on the line then, VAN just beat EDM and could not lose 1st in the Pacific. And there were probably a few more like that. Please note I do not hate on him or think he massively underperformed, but in this context, I find his statement very odd.
Do you honestly believe taking 2 games off would make his knee magically better?
Rangers win tonight 4-2
nyr
last night: 0-1, total: 42-29
tonight: FLA
Feels like Lindholm and Boston should kiss, marry and have kids together already.
Panthers Sweep 🙏
i find it hilarious waddel built a team that could barely win a game in the third round, shipped out futures to do so, pissed off young talent, more then half the team is ufa's and he's just like yeah im done now...
why would anyone hire this clown?
You can see it that way, I really don’t see his time here as a negative thing. The majority of his deals were good and the team made the playoffs every year under him. Could be a lot worse, could be better but he didn’t leave a train wreck behind. Just a bunch of decisions to be made this off season
More like he took a team that hadn’t made the playoffs for 9 straight years and they have now won a round in all 6 years. He took a bottom dweller into a cup contender, not much of his fault that they keep running across excellent goal tenders or just randomly having their power play dry up
Because 24 teams don't get past the first round - that's 24 teams that are looking up and thinking, hey, maybe that clown could help
I expect nonsense in CZcams comments but to have 6 people upvote such total cluelessness still disappoints me.
Let’s review how the Panthers figured out Igor. First goal Fox backs down way too far and screens Igor on the first one. The second one was deflected in by Laff and the third was an empty netter. Wow, if you believe that is considered having “figured out” Igor, how can you be expected to be taken seriously?
How many goals did the Rangers get in game one? The Panthers are shooting high glove side on Igor and it generated both the first goal as well as various other scoring chances Florida had. Watch tonight as the Panthers continue going high glove.
Okay but what does "figuring Igor out" have anything to do with the rangers getting shutout lol
So ignore the rest of what I wrote, got it.