2023 Marin Alpine Trail XR Details, Specifications and Coil shock information
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- čas přidán 8. 04. 2023
- This new, 2023 version of The Alpine Trail XR adds coil suspension to an already popular model from Marin. Who does that suit? Why would you want Coil suspension? What are all the specifications? Well, I'll tell you.
To start with, so anyone so time-constrained that they can't watch, here are the vital statistics:
Weight: 38.2lbs
Price $4499 Canadian Pesos
Here's the spec:
SPECIFICATIONS
FRAME
Series 4 6061 Aluminum, 29” Wheels, 150mm Travel MultiTrac Suspension Platform, Internal Dropper Post and Rear Derailleur Routing, Chainstay Mounted Post Mount Disc Brake, 148x12mm Boost Thru- Axle, 73mm Threaded BB w/ ISCG05 Tabs
FRONT SUSPENSION
Marzocchi Z1 Coil, 160mm Travel, Sweep Adjust Damper, Rebound Adjustment, Black Stanchions, 110x15 Kabolt, 44mm Offset, Medium spring rate
REAR SUSPENSION
Marzocchi CR Coil, Compression and Rebound Adjustment, 205x65mm, Trunnion Upper Mount, M8x25mm Lower Mount, S/M 350lb Spring, L/XL 450lb Spring
RIMS
Marin Aluminum Double Wall, 29mm Inner, Sleeved Joint, Disc Specific, Tubeless Compatible
HUB, REAR
Forged Aluminum, 148x12mm, Disc, Microspline Freehub Body
HUB, FRONT
Forged Aluminum, 110x15mm, Disc
SPOKE, NIPPLES
14g Black Stainless Steel
TIRES
Maxxis Assegai 29x2.5", MAXX TERRA, EXO+, Tubeless Compatible
DERAILLEUR, REAR
Shimano XT 12-Speed, SGS
DERAILLEUR, FRONT
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SHIFT LEVER
Shimano SLX 12-Speed, SL-7100
CRANKSET
FSA Gradient, Modular 1x, 32T Direct Mount Chainring, MegaTooth Technology, Mega Eco Spindle, Boost Spacing
BOTTOM BRACKET
MegaEvo BB, 73mm BSA Threaded
CHAIN
KMC X-12 Silver and Black
CASSETTE
Shimano SLX M7100 Cassette, 12-Speed, 10-51T
BRAKE, FRONT
TRP Slate EVO, 4-Piston Hydraulic Disc, 203mm Rotor
BRAKE, REAR
TRP Slate EVO, 4-Piston Hydraulic Disc, 180mm Rotor
BRAKE LEVERS
TRP Slate EVO
HANDLEBAR
Marin Trail, 35mm Clamp, 7000 Alloy Bar, 800mm Length, 20mm Rise, 5 Degree Up, 8 Degree Back
STEM
Marin CNC, 35mm Length, 35mm Bar Bore
GRIPS
Marin Grizzy Lock On
HEADSET
FSA No 57, Sealed Cartridge Bearings, 1 1/8" x 1 1/2”
SEATPOST
X-Fusion Manic, 1x Composite Remote, Size S 125mm Travel, Size M and L 150mm Travel, Size XL 175mm Travel, 30.9mm
SADDLE
Marin Speed Concept - Sport
Great in-depth look at the bike, cheers for the info
Been riding mine a few weeks now, absolutely love it! My first full sus, 29 , modern mtb.. it rips!
Great reviews thank you
great video thanks for sharing
Great in deoth information on this bike! Cheers
Great review and a detailed summary! 👍
I got a heavily customized Marin Alpine Train 7 2020 (only frame stayed from the original setup). Now I have the same Marzocchi rear shock, but with 350 lbs spring, M size frame. For a rider that weights 85 kg with gear, would you recommend 400 or 450 lbs spring? 350 is great now but seems a bit too soft during bigger landings.
That is a tough one but I think you could get away with the 400 lb so you'd still have an active shock in smaller bumps.
@@BikeBrosBikeShop Thanks!
Just procured one, I'm a coil guy so it ticked the boxes. 6ft/190 so the L is the perfect get on and send out of the box. Climbs just fine, rails corners, sucks up the rough, its a weapon. The coil Bombers will token switch to 170mm if required and yeah the long levers need moving but they work well once they are bedded in.
Awesome. Keep us posted with your thoughts longer term.
Does the weight bother you?
@@barthelemyperfhorse It was a bit heavier yeeting over a 6ft fence than my mates Mondraker but I haven't noticed it on the trail, It's not the lightest bike I've had, its not the heaviest either
Fantastic review, thank you ! Is the bike color orange and blue or red and blue? It is hard to tell.
I would call it red.
@@BikeBrosBikeShop , thank you
Whats the compression and rebound tune of the rear coil shock?
Are you wondering what the factory settings are, or wondering what those controls do? I'll assume the latter. Compression adjustments use hydraulic valving to add firmness - which is noticable as soon as you apply pressure (unlike a firmer spring which will still start the stroke relatively smoothly but will resist bottoming out more than a lighter spring). If that makes sense? The rebound adjustment is a setting that adjusts how quickly that suspension bounces back after compression - without some sort of rebound adjustment your bike is basically a popo stick with wheels attached. The typical thinking on rebound adjustment is to set the rebound so the shock will bounce back as quickly as possible while still being a controlled bounce back. Does this answer what you were asking? If you were asking about factory settings I wouldn't have an answer anyways - that isn't something most bike companies share and basically involves different shim-stacks to suit higher or lower leverage rations usually.
I know you can convert a Z1 air over to coil with the conversion kit. Do you know if it’s possible to convert a coil to air?
No, not usually. Coils can scratch the inside of the stanchion ever so lightly, but even that will prevent an air spring shaft from sealing properly. If you do it right away on a brand new fork before riding it, there's a slight chance you can swap coil to air, but you won't know until you start riding either and allow the shaft to move through the full travel.
You are better off replacing the whole fork if you have coil and want to go to air.
hello mate, does it also support chain guide ?
yes, there are mounts for a chain guide.
I used to have the alpine trail 8 but did a trade and now have a giant reign. I miss how easy it was to jump and wheelie though
True. I trust you love the Reign though? They're great bikes.
@@BikeBrosBikeShop Hauling ass is translation for fun in my dictionary and the reign is definitely more stable for racing
@@DavidFoundCowhat would you say limited the Marin more, just the shorter travel or the shorter chainstays? Also how is the giant in steep, slow stuff? Do you ever find the longer chainstays a hindrance there? Asking because I ride a lot of unregulated trails with awkward drops
can i up the spring stroke? ive heard it will give more travel
I'm pretty sure the bike can't handle longer stroke - with longer stroke the tire would contact the frame in full compression and may over-rotate the shock driving link causing other issues
@@BikeBrosBikeShop you mean a larger spring?
@@BikeBrosBikeShop there looks to be plenty of room how would it be any different?
can we also change coil fork in air fork ?
I'm not sure what this means.
How does it compare to a Giant Trance X 29 1? Which is the better bike?
Old question so my apologies. They're very different bikes as far as the type of riding and rider they're aimed at. The Trance X is more of a true trail bike, trying to balance climbing, tech, speed and descents into one package. The Alpine Trail is a bit more focused on descending and speed while trying to remain playful (courtesy of the short chainstays).
@@BikeBrosBikeShop thank you for your response brother
Would you say this is better or worse than the rockshox 2022 model just deciding between the 2
I think that will be based on your preferences: if you want the adjust-ability of an air fork then the 2022. If you want the coil fork, then the 2023. They're both great bikes.
@@BikeBrosBikeShop would the Marin trail c2 also be a good alternative or would you say the xr perform better?
@@point3 I personally would choose the C2. I prefer the adjustability of air suspension. I tend not to shuttle, I ride myself to the top so trail performance is as important for me as descending and big hit performance.
Are you confident on that weight measurement? If so, that would be a good 3 lbs more than the 2022 version. A little hard to believe they would add that much weight to an already fairly heavy bike.
It us a hefty bike. Pretty sure about the weight being accurate within a pound. I typically weigh twice and make sure the scale is zeroed. 2x coils, heavy tubes and tires.
Thats because it has heavier marzocchi suspension plus both ends is coil.
@@BikeBrosBikeShopstrange as bike24 have it listed as 14.8kg
Hey guys, does someone know if the bike has a loud hub in the back? Thanks
not loud. It has a Shimano hub which are generally pretty quiet.
This bike is $1700 at Jensons, I’m thinking it’s a for sure buy given the spec.
Me coming from a hardtail and getting mine for $1800usd i say i got a steal
Great deal! Congrats
I wouldn’t waste $3k on marzzochi kind of pisses me off if they recently updated specs from rock shox to Foxes Sister Marzzochi
I can't say I've heard too many complaints about Marzocchi and, in general, it seems Marzocchi is viewed more favorably than Rock Shox (of similar level) by many customers.
@@BikeBrosBikeShop I thought lyric ultimate is a much higher end fork then the Z1?
@@waldowsxxghostxx8577 I would agree with you however there is also a good sized group who seemed really stoked on the idea of a coil sprung Z1.
@@BikeBrosBikeShop I don’t know much about the forks all I know is coil forks require little to no maintenance vs the air sprung fork it just makes me wonder to see Marin go from rock shox lyrik ultimate air forks to a marzzochi bomber I hear they are great alternative fork :)
Could it handle a 290lb man??
I think so but you're going to have to get the heaviest possible springs for both the shock and fork and start planning to replace the rims which are always the weakest part on a Marin
Would this still be ok to ride on the easier / not so crazy tracks? Love the look of this bike! Cheers 🍻 😊
They downgraded the suspension from ultimate level rockshox to marzzocchi
However you get better brakes
Bomber Z1 is grate fork.
@@dmn8855 rockshox ultimate fork costs twice as much