2021 / 2022 Marin Alpine Trail XR | Why is this the most anticipated new enduro mountain bike?
Vložit
- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- I can't believe how many calls and emails we've had asking about this bike... it really is like nothing we've experienced before.
Why?
Well. This bike is designed for shredders. The bike has a great spec and really stands out for how far your dollar stretches. Great frame. Great geometry (very much at the cutting edge of geometry). Great suspension components. Great Drivetrain.
this bike is an excellent foundation for a high end build... as time progresses, you may be tempted to upgrade wheels and brakes... or you might just be thrilled with this bike right out of the box. Pretty impressive for $4799 Canadian ($3599 USD).
Our Bike shop proudly sells Marin (we're fans of the brand to be honest) as well as Giant (Yup, fans of them too!), Rocky Mountain (of course we're fans of them) and Pivot (so good).
www.bikebros.ca - Sport
Thank you Graham for making these videos!!!
Totally sold me on what my next bike will be🤙very helpful.
I ordered it couples a months ago and its know waiting for me at a bike shop. Like you said, I changed all the brake lines to put some XT's on it, to match the derailleur. Can't wait to ride it
I been riding my for the last 3 weeks.. let me tell you.. excellent bike..is little be heavy going up.. but when is going down the world is yours... I 240 pound I put 600 pound sping coil 2 turn.. wow best thing ever.. thanks for the review you are the reason I bought it..
You make the best vids! Cheers from Quebec
Thanks!
Such a great looking bike. Would love to try one out. Thanks for sharing.
Beautiful bike!!! But I like the Carbon too! Also, I ‘ll be waiting for a review for the Alpine trail e2 ebike, great geometry!!
Keep up the good work!
You and me both! We have the e bike Alpine Trail on order in both levels. I think the e1 is expected in late spring.
Wow, great review
Thanks!
wooooooow now I'm excited to ride this beast !!!!
Yup, looks good eh!
@@BikeBrosBikeShop oh yes... and it's funny how I anticipated the brake lever upgrade and the coil's spring rate change and then your awesome review confirms it. I'm currently riding a 2018 YT Capra 27.5 XXL, so I'm used to a long and slack enduro machine, but I can't wait to make the leap towards 29" wheels, a coil shock, top tier suspension and an even more new school geo.
Love this bike I love my alpine trail 8 it's fantastic
Yes, we have a few staff that are/were on the Alpine Trail 8 and love/loved it... the staff who no longer are on that bike switched to one of the new Alpine Trail models.
Hey I'm planning to plan get this bike is it worth it
@@mtbmtb705 I would highly recommend this or the carbon version. I wished I got this one over the trail 8 all that said I love my bike, but the color of this one is so nice.
The alpine trail 8 is awesome bike dude :)
I own the Marin Attacktrail pro 2017 🚴♂️🚴♂️
My dream mtb excellent bike for any trail.
Good choice. And looks so good!
If I have chance I like to review your store someday, I really love your bikes amazingly
Great bike. I'd like to have a Marin Alpine 7 with fox suspension 29er. I think you could get that bike under 30lbs with the right tweaks. Love my Giant Trance 2 with 27.5's on it all fox and after a life of hardtails, it's like having a Cadillac on the trail and really helps my cardio and energy level.
If I didn't already have the San Quentin 3 with the same exact colorway. I would definitely think about purchasing this bike no question ask...
there aren't any rules saying you can't have 2 bikes that match ;)
Hey Graham , cool video mate!
I own Marin attacktrail pro carbon 2017 🤘
Nice one! Those are great bikes!
@@BikeBrosBikeShop
Absolutely! you can see it in my videos! Having such a fun time :)
Hi Bro I love those bikes 2021 marin watching here PHILIPPINES
Glad you like them! thanks for watching.
great review! hey the rear seatstay pivot has a bushing or a bearing?
Your bike review are terrific, very informative and plenty detailed. I'm really interested in on of the Alpine Trail models. What's the real weight of the Alpine Trail Carbon 1, Carbon 2 and the Alpine Trail XR? I hear the Fox 38 on the Carbon 2 is a bit overkill, so Which Alpine Trail offers the best bang for the buck (weight + component spec + price)? I'm 182cm with a 81cm inseam, I'm between L and XL, which do you recommend. Thanks!
I’d pike the carbon 1 because it has a nice fork and 4 piston brakes. It’s also only 4400 canadien $ compare to the one in the video which is 5000. If you have more money to spend, you should get the carbon 2 because of the value but I would puke the carbon 1
Excellent review. If you had to choose between this bike and the Marin Rift Zone 3 as an all around trail bike. Which would you go with? And if it was your first MTB?
There are arguments for either bike but I would pick the Rift Zone - it is a better all around bike for a not-so-aggressive rider and won't require as good of a riding technique to get the bike to perform well. New riders on these very modern geometry bikes may be more likely to have front wheel wash-outs in corners and because new riders don't typically have the strength or stamina to do big climbs, the steep seat tube angle may be uncomfortable on mellower trails.
@@BikeBrosBikeShop Really appreciate your response and channel. Thanks for taking the time to help!
i’m getting mine next week, i ordered it in august.
Bon choix!
merci!
Is there enough clearance between the pivot and chain ring for chain guard installation?
COOL
Have you ridden xr version or know sb who did? Does coil shock bob a lot while climbing? Is flipping climbswitch is nescessery for long climbes?
I haven't ridden the XR but have spent time on the Alpine trail carbon 2. Climbs very well and doesn't need the climb switch. The coil shouldn't change that.
I have one of this and yesterday i broke the shock bolt i cant belive!!!
This or the commencal meta am essential? I’m torn! Really liking the look of the Marin. Help!!
Same with me! (but the cheaper options, the meta am origin or the alpine 7). I’m most likely going to go with the Marin.
@@0llie_Morg4n nice mate. The commencal is at least another 4 months wait. The Marin is in stock. Did a lot of reading about both. Both look great, but I’m leaning towards the trail XR. Happy trails
@@joshmarks3954 one of the main reasons why I am going for the Marin is because for the commencal (from their website) import duties cost an extra £400 ish. So I may as well go for the Marin because it has better specs in my opinion!
@@0llie_Morg4n 400 is steep mate. Yeah I’m going with Marin. Can’t wait! Enjoy your new bike mate👍
@@joshmarks3954 you too! Have a good one
so i just got one of these and did not research coil spring settings, i ordered medium but didnt realize the spring rate was 300 lbs vs. 400 lbs on a large. thoughts on how meaningful the difference will be? im right in between a large and medium at 5.10 and weigh 170lbs. should i be looking to upgrade the spring?
Hi Paul, I'd suggest measuring sag to figure out if the spring is suitable. You will be aiming for 25% to 30% sag - measured as the percentage of stroke your static body weight compresses the shock.
Hi Bike Bros
Great channel!
I was wondering if you could please help me with some starting suspension settings for my Marin Alpine Trail XR (size XL).
I purchased from the sole Australian retailer (I am in Australia) who advised me that they do not alter the suspension from the way it came in the factory. The Australian retailer recommend that suspension is tuned for the riders weight before riding.
I have never adjusted suspension before, however yesterday was able to set my front sag to around 22 (with riding gear, seated) and rear sag to around 27 (with riding gear, seated). That rear sag was achieved at around 1.5 full 360 degrees turns from the top (recall that the maximum is 5 turns).
The earliest any local bike shops can book me in for a suspension tune is 2 weeks from now, so I am keen to get a starting suspension dialled in earlier!
My XL Alpine Trail XR came with a 450mm rear coil.
Height 189cm or 6'2"
Weight 89kg or 196 pounds
Weight with riding gear 95kg or 209 pounds
I would describe myself as intermediate skill level, I enjoy cautiously riding black downhills, I am certainly not a fast rider.
Do you have any suggested setting for my suspension please? As a starting point before my tune in 2 weeks (I have a shock pump). I.e. front and rear sag, how many clicks/turns of rebound and compression, front and rear?
The RockShox documentation does not actually recommend a sag (it gives a large range), and for rebound and compression it asks you to ride and adjust until it feels good.
Any assistance on starting settings would be most appreciated please.
Cheers
Tim
PS. I asked you on another video which size you would recommend for me given my height and span, you pointed me to an XL. Happy to report that the size of the XL feels perfect!
Hi, I'm afraid these sorts of things are a bit too time consuming to go over in the comments section. I would say, on front suspension that your riding attitude affects where within the suggested range of pressure you should run your fork. I like bunny hopping, jumping and manualling alot so I run my fork a bit stiffer so I can push against it. Other riders will run a softer fork if they let the fork smash into more stuff and are less concerned about the stuff I like. Also, for the rear shock, you may have to ride the bike in the harshest trail in the most aggressive manner you're comfortable with to test the spring. You don't want to feel any harsh bottom outs but you do want to feel like you're able to use all your travel. Turning the preload on the coil only changes how much force it takes to begin the shock moving, you will still bottom out with the same force.
@@BikeBrosBikeShop thanks so much. That is really helpful thanks. I think I now know how to tackle the front and rear now.
Hey do you know if Marin uses some special tune for their rockshox deluxe air shocks in the alpine trails? It starts to seem like there's just no way to get alpine trail 7 in europe and I might have a chance to get the XR but i want to change the coil to an air shock for the weight and pedaling efficiency. Just need to know what kind of shock I should get.
Hi, sorry, I don't know. If we had any bikes left in stock I could look at the code to see.
@@BikeBrosBikeShop alright I'll try contacting Marin and see if i get an answer. So hard to find specific rear shock info in general for bikes :D
god i want one
haha. Yup, this is the bike we're getting the most questions about for 2021 so lots of people share your thoughts.
@@BikeBrosBikeShop was able to order one a few days ago. UPS just dropped her off 🚴👍
Would you recommend a size XL? I actually ride a L (19.5 inch) trek remedy 8 2020, my height is 186 cm.
XL is probably best fit. The old Remedy and this new Alpine Trail are very different for geometry so give yourself a bit of time to get used to it... I wouldn't be surprised if you notice a big improvement in how the Alpine Trail climbs and that you can relax body position on climbs
I'm 240 pound.. do u think 400 pound coil is enough for me. I'm 6' tall
what size is the rift zone 27.5 in the dark green at 0:50 I was wondering what the geometry looks like on the large
in the back
XL
Which tire combo you recommend for trails and climbing riding?
I think the least aggressive tire combo I would use would be Maxxis Dissector rear (exo+), with DHF front. Or for a much less popular (but personal favorite) is Schwalbe Hans Dampf 2.6 front and rear for a great all-rounder setup
Graham, do you carry stock for RockShox Coil Springs?
I'm afraid we don't. We had hoped to stock a few but supply has been problematic.
@@BikeBrosBikeShop thank you, it's seems like 500pound coils for this particular shock are out of stock everywhere, will need to make do with the stock 450 the bike comes with
UPDATE> 450pounds works just right if you dial the sag properly!!!
...and XT shifter for instant release and double release. It's stupid that companies still put more expensive RDs, while for performance actually the higher class shifter makes a difference. For this kind of bike even the Deore M6100 RD would be enough; at least it would hurt less when it gets torn off by some rock or sth.
I hear and read these comments about shifter preference quite often. I'm personally less concerned with the multi-shift ability of higher end shifters. It is still easy to push shift buttons faster than the derailleur can act. I'm a huge fan of Deore and would be happy riding it except for the weight when using all Deore components on a bike... I understand why bike companies spec fancy derailleurs as an overwhelming number of customers fixate on that one part to evaluate component quality of a bike. I personally would prefer money spent on brakes and rotors...
@@BikeBrosBikeShop yeah, you mentioned the brakes etc. I just wanted to add that some people might appreciate the more responsive action of the XT shifter, especially when coming from SRAM.
I've seen a 150mm+ full suspension Marin bike with cheapest single-pot hydro brakes from Shimano (including ridiculously looking 3-finger brake levers) - and with such brakes a 180mm rotor in the front didn't help either. Putting such brakes to this kind of bike is completely outrageous, should not happen even because of the safety issues...
To be honest I also bought a XT RD, but that was back when there was no Deore yet and the difference between SLX and XT wasn't that large, and in my experience the pulley wheels with ball bearings make quite a improvement for dirty riding conditions.
Can you mullet it?
Do you guys ship to the Us?
Sorry we don't. Shipping and customs would be expensive and none of our brands permit it.
Wich do u prefer the xr or the carbon 2?
I think that really comes down to whether you prefer a coil shock. I prefer the tunability of air suspension (like on the Carbon 2) but others prefer the improvement of small bump compliance of a coil (like on the XR).
Do u sell and ship bikes going to Winnipeg Manitoba?
We do. This bike is sold out now. Quite a long wait until we get more
Can I purchase this bike online anywhere? If not are there any dealers in MN
Hi, I'm not too sure about US dealers. The Marin website has a dealer finder.
@@BikeBrosBikeShop okay thank you👍
Which is the best Hybrid bike in Giant and Marin?
Giant's best is the Roam 0, I think Marin's best is the DSX 2.
@@BikeBrosBikeShop If u would rank these two and Trek Dual Sport 4 based on Specs and also performance...what would be your ranking?
how do you compare it to Rocky Mountain Instinct ?
Instinct a more of a trail bike balancing climbing and descending. Alpine trail climbs well but focuses on being a smasher of a descending bike - heavier, slacker and more stable.
@@BikeBrosBikeShop thank your for the clarification, I'm the type of all around and I go to bike park maybe one or twice a month, so I'm little bit confused on what to choose, what do you think ?
Hi, Do you know what´s the weight of that bike?
it is mentioned in the video
What exacly wrong with these wheels? And by budget wheels you mean like dt seiss m1900 or e1900 or of what pricepoint we are talking about?
I'd say weight, strength, width, material and sophistication of the hub. I've personally had issue easily ( relatively) denting the Marin wheels and there seems to be a growing appreciation of high quality hubs (DTs with star ratchet hubs, I9 hubs etc) we also see many people going to carbon rims (WeAreOne is our favorite). Both of the other shop guys destroyed a wheel on their last year's Alpine Trails ( rims dented/ bent beyond repair).
I point it out to try to give a fair review but also if anyone considering this bike compared to virtually all competing bikes, you could put truly high end wheels on and still be priced better than most competitors with entry level wheels.
I just wanted to know how bad they are bcs I am currently riding dt swiss m1900 and have 0 problems with hubs (at least after about 2-3k km). They are awesome. Rims are quite good too. I dented one pretty badly but i think that was my mistake. My air compressor had. broken gauge and I put not enough pressure. Anyways do you think that swaping those marin wheels for dt swiss m1900 from my current bike is worth it?
M1900 are good. Ideally for this bike it would be the 30 or 35mm rim width.
@@BikeBrosBikeShop how many points of engagement does Marin Alpine standard hub have? Thx
Can’t find the weight anywhere. Does anyone know how much this thing weighs?
Hi Michael, I'm pretty sure the weight is mentioned in the video.
15kg
Is it playful
Maxxis assguy. 😄
It's pronounced 'ass-a-guy'. It means 'spear' in zulu. A language spoken in South Africa.
That bike's a beauty for sure.
We're a pretty immature bunch in the shop so every chance we can mispronounce something in a funny way, we'll take it
Hi what is rhe weight for that bike ??
420 Shimano brakes on a 3.5k bike? That is pretty bad actually. It needed something more decent on there. Especially since it is marketed as a "rowdy" bike. I'd expect XTs.
Hi, I sort of agree. I'd personally prefer to spend an extra $100 or $200 and get SLX or XT brakes. That said, for the price I love that they didn't cut corners on suspension components as they are the most expensive to upgrade. I think the product managers decided to devote money to the right parts - it is pretty easy to upgrade brake pads if needed, then brakes down the road without ever getting slammed with a super expensive upgrade.
How much does it weigh in size large ?
36.1lbs
Lovely looking bike. I have stans flow rims with normal trail tires and id be looking into a medium in size. The large is 36.1lb which is 16.3kg. What size would the medium be with normal tires and stans flow rims. Im after a bike ideally 14.5kg as i do 70km spins usally. I have carbon fsa cranks i could put on too. Sorry for the long question
idk y but i keep praying tht someone goin to give. me this bike for my brthday but HAHAHAHAHAHA im in Malaysiaa who's gonna give me? totally "no one" 🤣