Same happened in the comics, he was made to be a real Superman and was raised to be selfless. Homelander in the show was driven to the point he's at now due to fame and power. While in the comics he was driven slowly insane by Black Noir framing Homelander by dressing up as Homelander and doing unspeakable acts of horror before mailing pictures of the acts to Homelander making Homelander think that he did it and just couldn't remember.
He still career about him but he couldn’t trust him anymore. The next scene he said “Noir was worth more than all of you put together” to Ashley, Deep, and A-train.
@@tadelong he was scarred in that scene? I didn’t even notice it before. After seeing the episode with Soldier Boy’s “death” I just thought he got it healed eventually but it makes sense
Pretty sure this is the only canon episode which explains Homelanders relationship with Noir. Homelander didnt necessarily show sadness when he killed him but had that”why did you make me do this!” Attitude which is far more of a reaction than he had to killing anyone else. Also pretty sad to see that there was a point where he really did want to just be your stereotypical superhero.
I still think vought and the people around homelander are most responsible for what he have become. I mean look at the tv show, every single good thing happens to him is either ruined or taken from him, every person in his life just lies to him and hate him, which isolated him further and made him in an echo chamber with himself. I think the thing homelander really needs is an honest friend or someone who is willing to actually communicate and win his trust
The fact that Homelander killed Noir after everything they've been through just because he didn't tell him that Soldier Boy was his sperm donor is irredeemable
Actually not really I feel Noir was the only one Homelander thought he could trust but in the end even Black Noir would lie to him and that destroyed Homelander.
@@baseupp12 He knew Solider Boy was a PoS and wasn’t the father that HL really needed. BN had first hand experienced how ruthless SB was and was outright traumatized by what had happened. He didn’t really “lie” to HL, more like he was protecting him from the horrible man his real father was.
@UCbSLlVlNNkA-jt6a2sBMf-Q if you’ve never experienced any sort of anxiety over regret of something you did, that’s a thought you’d have. “You knew ___ was gonna happen” is what a lot of people think to themselves when experiencing regret
@@wndt and a lot of other people with anxiety or not think that because that’s what they actually thought at the time. What your saying is a bit of a stretch
I didn't realize it until after watching episode eight of season three. That Edgar wasn't just insulting HL by calling him a bad product, he was telling the truth. And when you think about it. Everything about HL makes sense. Homelander was supposed to be stronger than Soldier. Better in every way. That's why they had soldier boy give Vought some of his seed so they could make a better him. But they failed. My best guess is that when HL was born and grew and matured enough they did all sorts of tests to make sure they succeeded such as durability. Strength. Intelligence etc. Most of them came back negative. The doctors panicked and gave HL more powers to compensate. The Bad Room, is the room they did all the injections to give him more powers. But they couldn't fix his mind. The only thing that makes HL better than Soldier Boy is that he's got more powers. That's it. Vought spent trillions of dollars and countless hours of time making a product that never lived up to their expectations and by the time they realized what they had done, it was already too late. What's happening now is simply Lady Karma coming to collect her dues.
I don’t think they failed in making a better soldier boy in terms of power/ability but with his mind. During their fight at Herogasm, HL seemed to have the advantage in terms of physical strength, needing both Hughie and Butcher to help hold him down, even than HL managed to break free. HL’s mind is the flaw in the product. He cares far too much about his own stardom and popularity for his own good. That mixed with his brittle ego leads to him being a worse hero. Just look back at season one, he and Maeve would rather not even attempt to save the plane in fear they’d damage it, killing those inside. He later even goes as far as threatening to end modern civilization when Starlight tried blackmailing him. He’s a super weapon with a child’s mentality and a needy narcissist.
@@scatman786 yeah, but that’s because Soldier Boy had just used his nuclear blasts. When he uses that, he’s weakened, so he wasn’t at “full strength”. Take the last episode, when Soldier Boy grabbed Homelander. He proper grabbed and moved his neck/jaw.
@@thelegend3965 and the scary thing about SB now is that the number of things that can kill him are very limited. Old age. And a Vacuum space. You could drop a nuke on him and he'd probably just shake it off bc now he's nuclear so it would most likely make him stronger. So yeah. Unless you drop him into magma or in space where he can't breathe it's pretty much impossible to immediately kill him.
@@thelegend3965 so a vacuum and a volcano are their only options for actually killing him. Or. For a slower method while he's asleep to yield a better result. They could run a water cutter over his chest and hope it pierces his heart You ever see a water jet cutter? Sharper than any blade a human can ever make.
let’s be honest edgar probably had vought recover his body and he’s getting juiced up on compound V to kill homelander and ryan I can actually see him snapping Ryan’s neck in front of homelander before bashing his brains in
My theory is: Black Noir did actually die but what they did was they made an actual clone of Homelander and Black Noir is gonna come back(not as the same person but as a clone) and do something similar to what he did in the comics.
@@mightyleonard7600 that’s actually what I thought, yeah. I’m changing my opinion all over the place but my original was that he died but he will come back, shock Homelander, BOOM HES A CLONE
@@turdiuolyric8283 thing is,will he be shocked at the end of the season or early in the season? Because we know homeland we can see through the mask,he said so himself,so will we know early on he’s a clone? Idk,would take away the shock factor for me
This was great foreshadowing for Soldier Boy's arc and his last words to Homelander on being a disappointment. Noir is essentially in the spotlight which he previously hadn't been because of Soldier Boy and Homelander has always been starved for attention which is taken from him by his dad's enemy. This episode is key once you have revisited season 3
The first attempt at being a hero failed when he caused a loaded gun to explode killing a hostage. The first time we see homelander in the actual show he does the same thing to a gun and it doesn't explode. Weird.
after seeing his origins I can't help but kinda feel pity for homelander, think about it....he grew up where he was never shown love and the one time he does is with people cheering him on so ofc he wouldn't want that to be taken from him and he can't even get therapy on top of it and as someone with bpd I can kinda relate with the outbursts and lashing out but then the feeling bad after because it's like a blackout but with him he was never told "don't do this" because people were too scared of his powers so it's like everyone he knew failed him to where he turned out a monster.....I kinda feel bad for him
@@joaquimrietveld8297 oh he’s certainly an irredeemable monster, but(supposing it wasn’t just a fictional show) it’s important to understand how he was born from a series of evil acts and dumb mistakes(like not actually training him well for hero work) so that another one isn’t born
Ngl you had me in the first half. You were going good until you made this all about yourself, very typical of you. Why do self-proclaimed BPD people always wanna boast about their condition at the slightest chance?
The problem isn’t incompetence its power level. HL is a nuke in the form of man, he’s meant for mass destruction. Superman’s actual powerset is awful for saving civilians and lost pets. These are the powers meant to fight and conquer nations. Super speed won’t save anyone, the heat, friction and expanded mass means you’ll just kill someone before whatever danger they’re in does. Super strength means you can’t protect large structures because they’ll just shatter around you causing more collateral damage. Heat vision lol. Any living being and most anything being hit with that will end with an explosion due to the rapid heating of the molecules. The Superman/flash powerset is suited for combat and mass destruction not heroics.
This episode is probably the only one where you can actually feel a bit sad for homelander, you can see he wants and tries to be seen as a hero, even if it for a short amount of time.
@@lvvsick Spoiler**** (kinda) Eric Kripke apparently says he's coming back but it'll be a different actor🤞🏻 Maybe for vaught to keep face with the public as there wasn't a memorial broadcast at the end of season 3 like there was for Queen Maeve 🤔🤔🤔
@@Wasted-Life I’m thinking it’ll be like soldier boy in the comics where black noir becomes a mantle that gets picked up by someone who isn’t Irvin (vought will make it seem like it’s still the same person under the mask tho unlike comics soldier boy)
I think he might have survived. Homelander Never Said he was actually dead just that noir was keeping secrets from him. We never see him actually die and I think his his brain injury was worse than what homelander did to him. Also the entire arc of him, the cartoons and needing to take revenge on soldier boy would have been kind of a waste if he was just dead imo. But he could still be dead we don’t know🤷♂️ Edit: typo
Also love how Black Noir in The Boys canon is a clone of Homelander made to kill him if things got out of hand but in The Boys Diabolical they are just chilling in a bromance together.
The fact that HL actually tried to be a hero for once is just heart breaking, proving that it’s not his fault that he’s like that, it’s BN’s and Vought
@@parallax7789 you are right, in the end of the episode we see a female stillwell instead of a male stillwell, so it's tv series universe characters not comic book universe characters.
Why did i figure homelander grew up a hero? The fact that he had a first mission and messed up shocked me, i figured he was running around for Vought since boyhood
I love how Homelander was originally just a caring, albeit dumber version of Superman that just happened to enjoy all eyes on him, but now he's an omnipotent attention seeking god
Omnipotence is true God above all Creation status. To be Omnipotent that means you are truly ALL Powerful. You know absolutely anything and everything all at once and your Will alone is all that is needed to change reality. . Homelander is by absolutely no means whatsoever, anywhere near being Omnipotent.
In the comics? I’ve only watched the show so far but have lately become interested in reading them as well, I know things are very different in both mediums so I’m not worried about that. The story is so awesome in my opinion, the basis is great.
@@migonzz the comic is just fanfiction of superheroes being evil and getting killed, it's also very edgy like it was written by a teenager that hates heroes. read it if you want but it's pretty mediocre
That’s closer to kryptonian/viltrumite power levels. I’d be surprised if homelander could lift a skyscraper. When your entire verse is basically street level, you look insanely tough when you’re anything above that.
@@derekofoma1563 exactly, Homelander is only so terrifying and powerful because his opponents are weak and untrained, but put him in DC or Marvel and he's gonna get destroyed in seconds
Well TBH homelander didn't mind black noir getting his average attention (like come on everyone is supposed to cheer when someone comes up to the stage) but madelyn stillwell is on of the many reason why homelander was corrupted to the spine
Something I noticed is that during this mission (at first) HL tried to avoid caring and seemed to genuinely want to help until he accidentally hurt someone then went nuts. I wonder what would have happened if that mission went well. Would Homelander end up a better person?
I love Black Noir's thinking here, he's meant to be a ninja and stealthed up so him giving the credit to Homelander makes the most sense He cares about the company and the future of the company so helping homelander would've saved the company and helped the reputation and helps with reason #1 We know Noir is Edgar's gun and best weapon so I'm certain Stan gave the order for Noir to help Lastly the way Noir handled homelander is amazing, it wasn't brute force like Superman vs Batman. But it was pure tactics, running and planning hiding in the shadows, buying time before Homelander uses his xray to find him. I'm willing to call this my favorite episode
Noir isnt edgars gun lmfao. He got fucking bodied by homelander. If anything he was edgars most loyal dog. Nothing more. However props for the deeper thinking. Genuinely cool idea
@@IstandonFaith what makes it even sadder is the fact that bro didn’t even want to kill him. He just did it cause he lied to him. AND he cried while doing it. #justicefornoir
I just think the lower half of the mash is cloth or some kind of fabric you can drink through because it doesn’t look like the same material as the helmet piece
Homelander’s first hero job was such a mess because he thought he was in some cartoon how he wraps metal to keep someone from escaping but it can be very dangerous (specially because the girl said she was having troubles breathing) how he tried to heat up a gun thinking it would melt. and, of course, how after losing it he killed someone by ripping her jaw off because he doesnt know how to control his strength
the song played in the scene where black noir killed some dude while a business meeting was happening with vought executives at the sam time. this was in season 2 of the boys
This show is very real like if we have something that can give superpowers. Things that happened in the show would happen irl. Not like some weird stuff in DC where superhuman races, aliens, superpower wielders that are super op will willingly help humans and even if they are backed into a corner they didn't kill anyone.
In the tv show Homelander hasn't done drugs. In the cartoon episode where Butcher spiked that one hero's heroin-enema be claims that the drugsdealer gets Homelander his cocaine and other special something in it that gives it the kick that a hero like Homelander needs. So the animated series seems more like a semi-canoncial thing. There is also the fact that Nubian prince was different in the show, from what little we saw, than in the cartoon.
It was weird, one second he easily disarms all of them like flash, then when one of them picks up one of the Bent guns (which would also blow him up), he doesn’t just do the same thing. And did no one give him any instructions on negotiating or if he should try and not kill?
This whole show is a huge example of why you should be a good parent and how bad or no parenting can have consequences
Yep
But the US will say otherwise
@@kibanathadragon5184 most people in the US are mindless slaves that just want more.
@@kibanathadragon5184 yes because single parenting only happens in the US 😎👍🏾
@@kibanathadragon5184 what does the US have to do with this, y’all will take any chance to shit on the US even when it has nothing to do with this
Nothing could PUNCH a hole through their bromance
I was like “ain’t know way he just said that” then I saw the “PUNCH” 😂
He went from being Black Noir to Black Hole
Only donuts could separate them
Lol 😂 ikr
Bro.... too soon
Also the fact that he actually TRIED to be a hero at first
So your the one who ask.
Actually you get desensitized after so many years
Same happened in the comics, he was made to be a real Superman and was raised to be selfless.
Homelander in the show was driven to the point he's at now due to fame and power. While in the comics he was driven slowly insane by Black Noir framing Homelander by dressing up as Homelander and doing unspeakable acts of horror before mailing pictures of the acts to Homelander making Homelander think that he did it and just couldn't remember.
@@bunnyblixt803 you're*
@@MrPikaGammer I would really liked to see that
Their bromance didn't end so well, it felt like a real punch to the gut...
Jesus christ dude
awesome reference fvck you though
except that just an adaptation and comic black noir destroy homelander so fucking bad
@@arridrian except the tv adaptation is great and the comics are mediocre at best
Yeah it made others heart broken
This is start of a bromance
The show: ya about that
He still career about him but he couldn’t trust him anymore. The next scene he said “Noir was worth more than all of you put together” to Ashley, Deep, and A-train.
@@scvboy1
care?
This episode basically confirmed that Black Noir's identity isn't like the one in his Comics counterparts.
Didn’t it also get confirmed in season 2 when Maeve stuffed almond joys in his mouth and his skin was black?
@@rosexorn189 and in season 3 when he was black
I'm pretty sure they gave him a son to replace the clone idea
@@rosexorn189 it wasn't obvious to me because he's so scarred
@@tadelong he was scarred in that scene? I didn’t even notice it before. After seeing the episode with Soldier Boy’s “death” I just thought he got it healed eventually but it makes sense
He drank through a straw at a party through his mask. Pretty funny
Reminds me of the deadpool game where deadpool would eat pizza through his mask lmao
He also thought he could play Axel Foley when clearly that role was meant for Eddie Murphy! Hilarious!
Pretty sure this is the only canon episode which explains Homelanders relationship with Noir. Homelander didnt necessarily show sadness when he killed him but had that”why did you make me do this!” Attitude which is far more of a reaction than he had to killing anyone else. Also pretty sad to see that there was a point where he really did want to just be your stereotypical superhero.
What? Wasn't it the other way around?
I still think vought and the people around homelander are most responsible for what he have become. I mean look at the tv show, every single good thing happens to him is either ruined or taken from him, every person in his life just lies to him and hate him, which isolated him further and made him in an echo chamber with himself. I think the thing homelander really needs is an honest friend or someone who is willing to actually communicate and win his trust
For live action yes but there is also a comics adaptation in diabolical for 1 episode
@@mothafferharazneh5446 even if he did get that, it’s too late for him now.
Nubian vs Nubian is canon too and may be relevant to the spinoff, as well as the cancer episode
The fact that Homelander killed Noir after everything they've been through just because he didn't tell him that Soldier Boy was his sperm donor is irredeemable
Thanks for that
Actually not really I feel Noir was the only one Homelander thought he could trust but in the end even Black Noir would lie to him and that destroyed Homelander.
@@baseupp12 I mean technically he didn’t lie he just didn’t say anything
He knew who his dad was and didn’t tell him so homelander felt betrayed
@@baseupp12 He knew Solider Boy was a PoS and wasn’t the father that HL really needed. BN had first hand experienced how ruthless SB was and was outright traumatized by what had happened. He didn’t really “lie” to HL, more like he was protecting him from the horrible man his real father was.
I just realised this was part of Black Noire’s plan of gaining Homelander’s trust to prepare for Soldier Boy’s return.
Black noir didn’t plan for soldier boy to come back
No he didnt, he didnt even know he would return yall are always reaching with this shit
@UCbSLlVlNNkA-jt6a2sBMf-Q if you’ve never experienced any sort of anxiety over regret of something you did, that’s a thought you’d have. “You knew ___ was gonna happen” is what a lot of people think to themselves when experiencing regret
@@wndt Black noir’s animated friend literally said “ you knew soldier boy would come back” which is pretty much black noir telling himself that.
@@wndt and a lot of other people with anxiety or not think that because that’s what they actually thought at the time. What your saying is a bit of a stretch
Black Noir is left handed. Pretty Cool
Spoiler
Since in diabolical black noir is still a clone of homelander, does that mean homelander is left handed too?
@@KoleKre If He was than that would be pretty neat
@@KoleKre Noir isn’t a clone of homelander here though….
In show, he is right handed
@@KoleKrehe’s not a clone?
I didn't realize it until after watching episode eight of season three. That Edgar wasn't just insulting HL by calling him a bad product, he was telling the truth.
And when you think about it. Everything about HL makes sense.
Homelander was supposed to be stronger than Soldier. Better in every way. That's why they had soldier boy give Vought some of his seed so they could make a better him.
But they failed. My best guess is that when HL was born and grew and matured enough they did all sorts of tests to make sure they succeeded such as durability. Strength. Intelligence etc. Most of them came back negative.
The doctors panicked and gave HL more powers to compensate. The Bad Room, is the room they did all the injections to give him more powers. But they couldn't fix his mind.
The only thing that makes HL better than Soldier Boy is that he's got more powers. That's it. Vought spent trillions of dollars and countless hours of time making a product that never lived up to their expectations and by the time they realized what they had done, it was already too late.
What's happening now is simply Lady Karma coming to collect her dues.
I don’t think they failed in making a better soldier boy in terms of power/ability but with his mind. During their fight at Herogasm, HL seemed to have the advantage in terms of physical strength, needing both Hughie and Butcher to help hold him down, even than HL managed to break free.
HL’s mind is the flaw in the product. He cares far too much about his own stardom and popularity for his own good. That mixed with his brittle ego leads to him being a worse hero. Just look back at season one, he and Maeve would rather not even attempt to save the plane in fear they’d damage it, killing those inside. He later even goes as far as threatening to end modern civilization when Starlight tried blackmailing him.
He’s a super weapon with a child’s mentality and a needy narcissist.
@@scatman786 yeah, but that’s because Soldier Boy had just used his nuclear blasts. When he uses that, he’s weakened, so he wasn’t at “full strength”. Take the last episode, when Soldier Boy grabbed Homelander. He proper grabbed and moved his neck/jaw.
@@thelegend3965 and the scary thing about SB now is that the number of things that can kill him are very limited.
Old age. And a Vacuum space.
You could drop a nuke on him and he'd probably just shake it off bc now he's nuclear so it would most likely make him stronger.
So yeah. Unless you drop him into magma or in space where he can't breathe it's pretty much impossible to immediately kill him.
@@furionmax7824 not even old age. Remember, like Stormfront he doesn’t age.
@@thelegend3965 so a vacuum and a volcano are their only options for actually killing him. Or. For a slower method while he's asleep to yield a better result. They could run a water cutter over his chest and hope it pierces his heart
You ever see a water jet cutter? Sharper than any blade a human can ever make.
That’s amazing. They actually humanized homelander. Showed he once actually had a heart
The compound v stole his good heart because the compound v is the same as cocain
Noir should come for revenge in S4 because it wasnt fair to be killed by the guy he saved in the 1st place
let’s be honest edgar probably had vought recover his body and he’s getting juiced up on compound V to kill homelander and ryan I can actually see him snapping Ryan’s neck in front of homelander before bashing his brains in
@@deathking1019 glad I’m not the only one who thought this would happen
My theory is: Black Noir did actually die but what they did was they made an actual clone of Homelander and Black Noir is gonna come back(not as the same person but as a clone) and do something similar to what he did in the comics.
@@mightyleonard7600 that’s actually what I thought, yeah. I’m changing my opinion all over the place but my original was that he died but he will come back, shock Homelander, BOOM HES A CLONE
@@turdiuolyric8283 thing is,will he be shocked at the end of the season or early in the season? Because we know homeland we can see through the mask,he said so himself,so will we know early on he’s a clone? Idk,would take away the shock factor for me
Black Noir sips his drink through the mask because he is just Batman but different.
This was great foreshadowing for Soldier Boy's arc and his last words to Homelander on being a disappointment. Noir is essentially in the spotlight which he previously hadn't been because of Soldier Boy and Homelander has always been starved for attention which is taken from him by his dad's enemy. This episode is key once you have revisited season 3
Well black noir mixes coffee grounds with his drink so drinking through his mask is the best filter
that's like sneezing on your mask and saying "hmm" that smells nice. ◉_◉
the boys: diabolical is what I thought “what if” would be
You can actually sip drinks through a mesh mask. It’s possible.
If they make an animated spin-off. I really hope that they use this animation continuity
that ep hits different after the last ep of s3
Sipping with his Mask on?! Damn Goblin Slayer Reference ~
I see
The first attempt at being a hero failed when he caused a loaded gun to explode killing a hostage. The first time we see homelander in the actual show he does the same thing to a gun and it doesn't explode. Weird.
I think he’s able to control the temperature of his beams
Well the gun wouldnt explode from lasers so the live actions a bit more realistic
@@ethanzavala1689 true
@@ethanzavala1689 Likely. Helps if he knew this time to heat the parts held rather than the chamber
Cause antoni learns from his mistakes
after seeing his origins I can't help but kinda feel pity for homelander, think about it....he grew up where he was never shown love and the one time he does is with people cheering him on so ofc he wouldn't want that to be taken from him and he can't even get therapy on top of it and as someone with bpd I can kinda relate with the outbursts and lashing out but then the feeling bad after because it's like a blackout but with him he was never told "don't do this" because people were too scared of his powers so it's like everyone he knew failed him to where he turned out a monster.....I kinda feel bad for him
Yeah i guess but he still knows killing people is bad
@@joaquimrietveld8297 yea he just doesn’t care
@@joaquimrietveld8297 oh he’s certainly an irredeemable monster, but(supposing it wasn’t just a fictional show) it’s important to understand how he was born from a series of evil acts and dumb mistakes(like not actually training him well for hero work) so that another one isn’t born
Ngl you had me in the first half. You were going good until you made this all about yourself, very typical of you. Why do self-proclaimed BPD people always wanna boast about their condition at the slightest chance?
@@venomouspassion5744 give your balls a tug and go kiss your mommy lil boy
Bromance until homelander rearranged noir's organs
Other way around
Wait nvm I forgot the show is different 💀
at least noir is alive in some way i guess, the director confirmed he will be in s4
@@ascendedbox612 WTF?
@@Tionic929 I mean the guy survived getting his brain blown out when the attack on Soldier Boy happened it’s not that surprising
@@shubhharish490 i was surprised cuz i still havent started watching s3
You know, you'd think an artificial superhero engineered from birth would be less terrible at superheroics.
The problem isn’t incompetence its power level. HL is a nuke in the form of man, he’s meant for mass destruction. Superman’s actual powerset is awful for saving civilians and lost pets. These are the powers meant to fight and conquer nations.
Super speed won’t save anyone, the heat, friction and expanded mass means you’ll just kill someone before whatever danger they’re in does.
Super strength means you can’t protect large structures because they’ll just shatter around you causing more collateral damage.
Heat vision lol. Any living being and most anything being hit with that will end with an explosion due to the rapid heating of the molecules.
The Superman/flash powerset is suited for combat and mass destruction not heroics.
Of course homelander helps homelander lol
Black Noir is not Homelander in the shows
The boys diabolical is like the boys comic animated
nah bc show black noir isnt homelander but even if he was the comic black noir framed homelander bc he wanted to replace him sooner
@@unlawfulsauce6477 only one episode in diabolical is based on the comic. This episode is even canon to the series.
Honestly my favorite was the one that looked like a Ghibli film with the old couple
Same
Same! Written by Andy Samberg!
This episode is probably the only one where you can actually feel a bit sad for homelander, you can see he wants and tries to be seen as a hero, even if it for a short amount of time.
Sad that he ripped black noir's guts out in the series
Spoilers man, but yea I agree
No way that he is really dead tho, he can survive his brain being ripped out but can’t survive his guts being ripped out??
@@okingu8446 yeah I hope he isn't dead
@@lvvsick Spoiler**** (kinda)
Eric Kripke apparently says he's coming back but it'll be a different actor🤞🏻
Maybe for vaught to keep face with the public as there wasn't a memorial broadcast at the end of season 3 like there was for Queen Maeve 🤔🤔🤔
@@Wasted-Life I’m thinking it’ll be like soldier boy in the comics where black noir becomes a mantle that gets picked up by someone who isn’t Irvin (vought will make it seem like it’s still the same person under the mask tho unlike comics soldier boy)
The fact i watched diabolical after season 3 made their friendship really something
Homelander: I'll give u 2 choices be my friend or my enemy
Black Noir: how about both
Why are you drinking with your mask on
Black Noir: don't worry about it
Yeah but the real question is who is this Noir?
The show runner has confirmed that this is a show canon episode. So that Noir is the show Noir.
@@aaronknowles5359 thank u
@@aaronknowles5359 this makes the season 3 finale even sadder :(
@@aaronknowles5359 here noir kinda handles homelander tho in the show he died fast
@@user-iu2zo7hu7f Homelander’s first mission. He has zero confidence. Noir was already a legend and had the intimidation factor on him.
Ngl even in the television series I can’t help but love Homelander. I always end up rooting for him in a twisted way
Uh oh
Scott is that you?
It's funny because I do too
I mean he is the most entertaining. Villains always do, well if you count them as villains that is.
The kids who thought they were joker back when i was in hs have been replaced by people who want to be homelander now 😭
Given how soldier boy, I think a part of him genuinely wanted to foster a good relationship, not just fear for his power
"he sips his drink through his mask"
um excuse me sir do you even person?
There's material you can drink through
Of course there is
@@devil23rd2 *snaps fingers* yes
I have to admit I like to sing that initially Homelander really did want to save those people. He’s sort it out actually wanting to be competent
he wanted it because he was told so all his life, and at the end he found out that as long as media thinks he’s a hero he’s doing all right
« Their beautiful bromance »
That aged well…
RIP Black noir, even if he was scarred and got really really deep depression before he died
I think he might have survived. Homelander Never Said he was actually dead just that noir was keeping secrets from him. We never see him actually die and I think his his brain injury was worse than what homelander did to him. Also the entire arc of him, the cartoons and needing to take revenge on soldier boy would have been kind of a waste if he was just dead imo. But he could still be dead we don’t know🤷♂️
Edit: typo
@@simonglaser8087 Maybe he is alive and his brain got preserved somehow idk
I do think I remember black noir drinking with his mask on in the main series, so that's pretty neat
Their bromance is so good, homelander punch’s black noir stomach and almost killing him 😍😍
"*Best gay relationships are abusive/submissive*" -a 14 year old white girl somewhere
@@potato3457 I kinda agree with you ngl
@@potato3457 kinda dumb
I thought black noir was immortal like Deadpool, since his brain got destroyed. What even his superpower lol
Super strength and a very high healing factor
@@jenniferdunstan5065 I thought he only had stealth level 100
Also love how Black Noir in The Boys canon is a clone of Homelander made to kill him if things got out of hand but in The Boys Diabolical they are just chilling in a bromance together.
The fact that HL actually tried to be a hero for once is just heart breaking, proving that it’s not his fault that he’s like that, it’s BN’s and Vought
This was my favorite episode outta all of them.
only one that is canon
We will never know if that is clone noir or black noir
It’s not a clone… we know this
No its not a clone noir its :) A
BLACK PERSON
that lives a very good life saving people and has a job
@@parallax7789 you are right, in the end of the episode we see a female stillwell instead of a male stillwell, so it's tv series universe characters not comic book universe characters.
@@GraniteInTheFace most importantly we knew it was canon with the show so yea it’s the same that in the show
@@diabloiii4234 what do you mean canon with the show?
There bromance is truly jaw dropping
Black noir's true power
Why did i figure homelander grew up a hero? The fact that he had a first mission and messed up shocked me, i figured he was running around for Vought since boyhood
No one:
Me knowing black was homelanders clone:
Literally eveyone:
I like in the show they made him not the clone.
Homelander could've been a great super hero and saved a lot of lives had he been taught to control his powers and guided to the right direction.
I love how Homelander was originally just a caring, albeit dumber version of Superman that just happened to enjoy all eyes on him, but now he's an omnipotent attention seeking god
Omnipotence is true God above all Creation status. To be Omnipotent that means you are truly ALL Powerful. You know absolutely anything and everything all at once and your Will alone is all that is needed to change reality.
.
Homelander is by absolutely no means whatsoever, anywhere near being Omnipotent.
And in the boys show
We don't talk about black noir
The thing that makes the TV show worse is the fact that black noir is basically a father figure to him
In the comics? I’ve only watched the show so far but have lately become interested in reading them as well, I know things are very different in both mediums so I’m not worried about that. The story is so awesome in my opinion, the basis is great.
@@migonzz the comic is just fanfiction of superheroes being evil and getting killed, it's also very edgy like it was written by a teenager that hates heroes. read it if you want but it's pretty mediocre
@@ALIMALI-gb6gl Lmaooo good review, totally accurate
@@Scorpiongod934 yeah it’s pretty accurate
Noir is not a father figure to HL lol. He's more of a close friend.
and the coffee wasnt spilling all over his suit..
"hey Look a Guy who can Bench Press a planet!"
"Lets Bully him he can't do sh!t"
*Kills in self defense*
"why u do dis"
He's no where near that powerful
That’s closer to kryptonian/viltrumite power levels. I’d be surprised if homelander could lift a skyscraper. When your entire verse is basically street level, you look insanely tough when you’re anything above that.
@@derekofoma1563 exactly, Homelander is only so terrifying and powerful because his opponents are weak and untrained, but put him in DC or Marvel and he's gonna get destroyed in seconds
Antony face literally can't be animated to show everything he offers lol
Favourite ep as well 2nd has to be the misfits ep
noir actually is clone of homelander he killed butcher's wife and baby
Ya but hopefully the comic is not gonna be canon(:)
@@kellyprada9135 too bad if more of u idiots keep asking for non cannon shit then it’ll be made even tho it ruins everything they made
Yup, but noir is older than homelander like noir and soldier boy had worked together, then how noir is supposed to be clown of homelander
@@NOTTIBOPPINtwitch Que???????????????????
@@darkff150at least use ur brain noir is soldier boy but better they didn’t let him fly just made him a clone of homelander he’s a failed experiment
dang here we go again with kakashi eating with his mask on so black nowar does the same thing
Noir*
Well TBH homelander didn't mind black noir getting his average attention (like come on everyone is supposed to cheer when someone comes up to the stage) but madelyn stillwell is on of the many reason why homelander was corrupted to the spine
Black noir sipping the coffee with his mask on maybe funny in the moment until you realize his face was burnt to a crisp by soldier boy
At least homelander tried to be a hero, but that ended badly.
Violence is never the answer. He wanted to end the cycle of violence
Black noir has been taking lessons for kakashi apparently
Something I noticed is that during this mission (at first) HL tried to avoid caring and seemed to genuinely want to help until he accidentally hurt someone then went nuts. I wonder what would have happened if that mission went well. Would Homelander end up a better person?
Prolly not cuz eventually the mission won’t go well and he will still break. Just later on
I love Black Noir's thinking here, he's meant to be a ninja and stealthed up so him giving the credit to Homelander makes the most sense
He cares about the company and the future of the company so helping homelander would've saved the company and helped the reputation and helps with reason #1
We know Noir is Edgar's gun and best weapon so I'm certain Stan gave the order for Noir to help
Lastly the way Noir handled homelander is amazing, it wasn't brute force like Superman vs Batman. But it was pure tactics, running and planning hiding in the shadows, buying time before Homelander uses his xray to find him.
I'm willing to call this my favorite episode
Noir isnt edgars gun lmfao. He got fucking bodied by homelander. If anything he was edgars most loyal dog. Nothing more. However props for the deeper thinking. Genuinely cool idea
My homie help the one man who can't be trusted and got killed by the man who helped him
Fukin facts a sad ending real talk
@@IstandonFaith what makes it even sadder is the fact that bro didn’t even want to kill him. He just did it cause he lied to him. AND he cried while doing it. #justicefornoir
He's uncovering his mask to sip, just like Kakashi, extremely fast
I just think the lower half of the mash is cloth or some kind of fabric you can drink through because it doesn’t look like the same material as the helmet piece
Everyone else: homelander got his team killed
Cod players: dude he got a team wipe he's so good at this!!
This aged well
I think black noir is the clone of homelander
Nah he’s a black guy in the real show
But in the comics yea
I’m thinking they might have saved him and he will fight Homelander at end of show
@@n5ccs355 oh ok and btw why black noir never speak
@@n5ccs355 jhes like bumblebee but no radio inside and no voice box
Then he didn't tell homelander about his daddy. The rest is history HE is history
Even in The Boys live action Black Noir drinks through his mask.
Homelander’s first hero job was such a mess because he thought he was in some cartoon
how he wraps metal to keep someone from escaping but it can be very dangerous (specially because the girl said she was having troubles breathing)
how he tried to heat up a gun thinking it would melt.
and, of course, how after losing it he killed someone by ripping her jaw off because he doesnt know how to control his strength
Homolanda might have flight and xray vision, but noir can sip through masks
Why are the “woo woo” guys from sympathy for the devil in the background of this?
the song played in the scene where black noir killed some dude while a business meeting was happening with vought executives at the sam time. this was in season 2 of the boys
@@dirtydan1212 what's the song actually called?
@@henry.-.2183 "sympathy for the devil" by the rolling stones
Then Black Noir ate a baby and framed Homelander, so Homelander kills the president and gets all the supes killed.
Diabolical is a spin-off of the show, which is very different from the comics, so no.
No the show is different from the comics.
“The best episode of the boys diabolical is the last, because it ends the show”
This show is very real like if we have something that can give superpowers. Things that happened in the show would happen irl.
Not like some weird stuff in DC where superhuman races, aliens, superpower wielders that are super op will willingly help humans and even if they are backed into a corner they didn't kill anyone.
The Homelander anime lookin fine
black noir drink with his mask on 💀
Makes me wonder if he wanted to make him more popular than soldier boy.
Is this officially part of The Boys live action series?
Yeah this is the only episode they confirmed to be cannon I think
@@brodyslegendarycontent4212 the last three are all cannon.
The animated series timeline follows the TVSHOW timeline NOT the comic timeline..so no Homelander isn’t best friends with himself here
Only some of the episodes do!
Ones like episode 3 "I'm your pusher" follow the comic's storyline.
But this last episode is absolutely the TV show
In the tv show Homelander hasn't done drugs. In the cartoon episode where Butcher spiked that one hero's heroin-enema be claims that the drugsdealer gets Homelander his cocaine and other special something in it that gives it the kick that a hero like Homelander needs.
So the animated series seems more like a semi-canoncial thing.
There is also the fact that Nubian prince was different in the show, from what little we saw, than in the cartoon.
@@AngelTheKitsune both you and the other fellow are correct. Thank you for letting me know, it does seem to be semi canonical my mistake👌🏽👍🏽
the artstyle is so lovely
I don't know which the boy is better the cartoon the boys or just the boys
that episode was gut-wrenching
I think we need a The Boys animated show similar in style to Invincible
More than the best episode I’d say the only good episode worth a watch.
Clearly you haven’t seen John and sun-hee
Literally every episode was a banger except that one with the poo girl
That was just gross
I'm Your Pusher was just as good as this
in the comic Black Noir would 100% find this as a reason to kill homlander.
Black noir:Sips coffee with mask on
Ranboo:Also Drinks water with mask on
It's water not wa'er
@@meat_student2760 forgot to put the T
@@SeanDTanker bo'oh o' wa'er
@@LunarrMLBB im sorry we dont sell "Bo'oh of Wa'er"
@@SeanDTanker aw man I was really thirsty
It's cool and interesting that every version of the boys is different.
It is a great tutorial on how to sip your drink ominously
I wouldn't say it was the best. It was the most important, but John and sung hee was goated
Nah this is better
finally someone who agrees
I just wished they could've came back to voice them again would've made this series better
The actors from the main show did voice the characters voices
honestly it makes me want there to be a boys cartoon because how they executed it was wonderful I'd say it was on par with invincible actually
I don't think it was his incompetence, I think it was his lack of training.
Why not both
Same thing
It was weird, one second he easily disarms all of them like flash, then when one of them picks up one of the Bent guns (which would also blow him up), he doesn’t just do the same thing.
And did no one give him any instructions on negotiating or if he should try and not kill?
Black noir and Homelander are just the brutal versions of batman and auperman