Summarizing, based on my experience, the choice will depend on the driving profile. 1. Mild Hybrid: suitable if driving mostly on motorways. You do not need to carry extra weight of the battery. The mild is just fine on motorways and small incursions in the city. 2.,Hybrid: suitable if driving 50/50 % in city / motorways. It worths carrying the extra weight of the batteries and the complexity because the reduction of the fuel consumption in the city is substantial. The consumption on the road is similar to the mild hybrid, but the gains in the city can justify the investment. 3. Plug-in Hybrid: suitable if driving mostly in city. Here the big batteries tax the fuel consumption on the motorways, and the tire will suffer because of the extra weight. All complexity will be justified only if the car is driven mostly in the city, where the costs can be well reduced. Here it becomes evident that the pure EV starts competing as a better choice.
Mild ones (MHEV) are nearly no hybrids. The real economy you can see with the full hybrid ones and if you wish to have an electric vehicle and you aren't sure how easy will be in your country to find a charging spot whenever exactly you need it, then the best solution is the plug-in. I love the plug-in and this will be my next car.
I've own a Hyunday Tucson PHEV. It combines two worlds Phev and Hev. When battery reach 18÷15 % of charge it became Hev vehicle. Regenerative breaks works all the time. On the short run 150km per day fuel consumption with full battery is 3.5÷5 l/100 km. On electric mode only range I've achieved 50÷70 km.
For the last 2 - 3 months I was looking to get a PHEV from Skoda but ended up getting a normal petrol engine instead. For me, since I try as much as possible not to use the car in the city, the electic drive, altough seems cool, is a bit of a nonsense. If you want to save on fuel or care about the environment, then use public transport. For other ocasions, like when I go shopping or on a vacation, I want a car that has a lot of space in it and I simply can't stand the idea of hybrids having less space in the trunk because of the batteries. The problem is that nobody talks about this space limitation and many people are buying these cars but have no idea what they are getting into until they start using it
The battery in full hybrid in under the rear seat and doesnt influence the space in trunk/boot... a full hybrid is cheaper than public transport and goes 70-80% full electric in city from a distance. Lets say 10km it goes 7 or 8 full electric and 3 on petrol or hybrid mixt drive. But not at once instead of small cycles of 3km ev 500m petrol 3km ev 500m petrol and so on. Combined ev distance vs petrol distance is 75% ev.
A full hybrid seems to be the best, no need for charging with a cable (besides having ro refuel), and having a smart system where the energy of the car is saved in a battery to be later used again for extra efficiency and performance.
a mild hybrid is a great way to retrofit an existing platform. say you just recently finished a new car platform in 2020 and it still has some time before the replacement platform that supports a full hybrid is ready. well then adding a mild hybrid system is a great way since you don't need much more space to put stuff and can easily make use of modified versions of existing components.
If you can't recharge at home/work, then get a HEV. If you think you can drive more than 80% electric, then it makes more sense to get a full electric instead of a PHEV.
@@benkr5870 a hev drives 80% full ev in city from a distance. Let.s say 30km distance it drives 80% full ev. Ex: 3km ev 2km petrol 1km ev 100m petrol 3km ev 500m petrol and so on. When you add the ev distances vs petrol ones you get 80%
@@benkr5870 Un mhev a une batterie ridicule Un hev a une batterie dix fois plus énergétique mais seulement 2km en 100% électrique mais tu peux faire 80km en 50% électrique car ça recharge très vite sur le couple du moteur essence. Un phev a une batterie encore dix fois davantage énergétique et peut rouler 60km en 100% électrique Les bev ont une batterie environ 10 fois davantage énergétique et peuvent parcourir 500km en 100% électrique voir davantage J'attends les batteries à l'état solide avec les 1500km d'autonomie 😅
@@Baldur_1 je suis totalement d'accord. Je trouve même honteux que les Peugeot diesel avec alterno demarreur soit noter GH sur leur carte grise en France (GH gasoil hybride) seulement parce qu'il y a un alterno demarreur sans batterie sans second moteur électrique (de la totale anormalité)
Brilliant, short and concise info shared on all 3 buddy! Can you tell me when the electric functions come to use/activate on the Mild Hybrid please? :)
Thanks my friend for feedback 🙏 Depend on the car model …usualy electric on mild hybrid come when the car is coasting or starting or it is just help the ice motor sometimes to lift the power…
Mazdas new suv brought me here. I’m wondering what the heck is a mild hybrid! I’ve only heard of hybrid and plug in lol 😆 Mazda just give me a hybrid version please.
internal combusttion engine are relativly quite efficient under predicatable and consistant load thats where hybird and mild hybrid shine it help out with regenerative braking puting energy otherwise wasted back in to the drive train and help the engine aclerated during its less efficent low speed phase of its comsumption and mild hybrid especially can easily be manafacture and surported by today current exisiting infustructure i would in today world mild hybrid and hybrid being the most practical choice now with phev being 2nd and bev still having 1 or 2 more generation to mature.
@SDA Dan Card @Dan vide asta e foarte fain facut crezi ca poti sa faci unu si pe canalul romanesc sa il putem da celor care nu stiu cum e cu Hibdridul. Poate Merge cu un Voice Over. Multumesc
Can you tell me what should I look for specifically when buying an used car? Also, would you suggest a person to buy a new car or a used car when his/her budget is tight?
Second hand car is better for budget 👍 I will make a special video about what a person should look for. There are many things that have to be taken in consideration. Is hard to explain here fast
My next vehicle will be a Phev. Switzerland's tax system is crazy...only 25% road taxes but almost 370cv combined h.p. For my 4x3 kilometer/day comute the eletric power is more than enough...only 50/60 km/h max speed roads from home to work! And for winter or long distances ICE power is always there. If home charging could be possible i would buy E.V. instead !! 🤗
Do you make recommendations? Do you suggest that buying a PEH is better than buying an EV? I am looking to choose one among the European brands. Your suggestion is most welcomed. Thanks.
Rick actually if you ask me today I would say EV is the better choice for sure. But if you want Phev there are many good ones. If you get one Try to get one with more storage space.
It is the 48v battery...go to Hyundai service they will fix it fast 👍it happend before to other. Or just give them a call maybe they can fix it on phone.
Not i have a new Favorite . Full Hybrid system from Honda Civic or Nissan Qashqai. Plug in Hybrid was my favourite because you can also charge it and drive more km in electric mode. Now i think depend what you need personally. Depend how many km you drive daily.
It is extremely difficult to find out fuel consumption with 0 battery of PHEV because car manufacture use some weird formula that combines consumptions and it can be around 1.5L/100km. How to get 0 battery consumption?
Boris some phev cars have an option to work only on ICE engine and to preserve the battery VW Grup have it on their cars and you can notice the bigger consumption. I owned a GTE before and I know from experience 👍👍
@@BorisTomas You can subtract the electrical range from 100km and use the remaining km as basis for the consumption figure. E.g. A250 has 75km e-range and 1.5l. 1.5l/25km = 6l/100km.
2 new models of Toyota is launched in India. 1. Mild hybrid ( Toyota Urban Cruiser Hyrider). 2. Strong/ Full Hybrid ( Toyota Urban Cruiser Hyrider). I can afford the strong Hybrid. Which one shall I go for.
Watching the difference, the mild hybrid is basically the same normal ICE, the only difference is the efficiency, is more like an E-ICE (Efficient Internal Combustion Engine) 👌🏻💪🏻, therefore, that means that possibly the H2-ICEs (Hydrogen Combustion Engine) could be also mild hybrids or E-ICEs (how do i call them), the hybrid and plug in hybrid are the real hybrids (especially the PHEV) 💪🏻👏🏻
Batteries, they die eventually, usually after 150.000 miles on older Prius cars, otherwise they are way more reliable than any CVT car, you look up how a Toyota hybrid transmission works, and you will be surprised by the simplicity of it.
It surprises many people that many hybrids have about the same number, or fewer, mechanical pieces than conventional cars. Not more, Many, if not all, of the devices that are usually driven by a serpentine belt can be replaced with electric versions. These may not have fewer parts, but they tend to be more reliable. Those hybrids with just one motor usually put it in place of the flywheel, and everything else (except there is no alternator) is mostly the same. So the number of parts is quite similar. Those with two motors use them as a "hybrid transmission." Not only does it replace the conventional transmission with far fewer pieces, it also replaces the clutch or torque converter, starter, and alternator. And, while the two motors are very similar devices to the starter and alternator, although bigger, they have fewer pieces.
I have new Audi "mild-hybrid". That's just a marketing. NO real value. I did not spot any difference in consumption (I drive in a way to save fuel). I would say this is more anoying because software detect car in front of me move and start engine - even if there's no reason. Marketing, nothing more.
Meni In All Hybrid cars you have a 12v battery like in normal cars and another battery that it is use for hybrid system. Depending on Hybrid system the battery is bigger or smaller 👍👍
Why are there so few "range extender" models, where the petrol or diesel engine _doesn't_ drive the wheels? Why are there no models where the fuel engine doesn't drive the wheels, but can put out enough power to keep the battery charged - at least some of the time?
Good question 👍 Actualy I have Review recently a car that it is powered by electric motor but charged by Petrol motor and it had both inside. Interesting concept.
Summarizing, based on my experience, the choice will depend on the driving profile.
1. Mild Hybrid: suitable if driving mostly on motorways. You do not need to carry extra weight of the battery. The mild is just fine on motorways and small incursions in the city.
2.,Hybrid: suitable if driving 50/50 % in city / motorways. It worths carrying the extra weight of the batteries and the complexity because the reduction of the fuel consumption in the city is substantial. The consumption on the road is similar to the mild hybrid, but the gains in the city can justify the investment.
3. Plug-in Hybrid: suitable if driving mostly in city. Here the big batteries tax the fuel consumption on the motorways, and the tire will suffer because of the extra weight. All complexity will be justified only if the car is driven mostly in the city, where the costs can be well reduced. Here it becomes evident that the pure EV starts competing as a better choice.
Yea true 👍👍Thanks for feedback
@@SDADanCarsyou didn’t talk about cars that do not have the internal combustion engine, but only electric and need to be charged?
Mild ones (MHEV) are nearly no hybrids. The real economy you can see with the full hybrid ones and if you wish to have an electric vehicle and you aren't sure how easy will be in your country to find a charging spot whenever exactly you need it, then the best solution is the plug-in. I love the plug-in and this will be my next car.
True 👍
I've own a Hyunday Tucson PHEV.
It combines two worlds Phev and Hev. When battery reach 18÷15 % of charge it became Hev vehicle. Regenerative breaks works all the time. On the short run 150km per day fuel consumption with full battery is 3.5÷5 l/100 km. On electric mode only range I've achieved 50÷70 km.
Thanks for info 👍👍🙏
This was the best explanation between the various types of hybrid cars so far i have seen. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! 🙏Thanks
For the last 2 - 3 months I was looking to get a PHEV from Skoda but ended up getting a normal petrol engine instead.
For me, since I try as much as possible not to use the car in the city, the electic drive, altough seems cool, is a bit of a nonsense. If you want to save on fuel or care about the environment, then use public transport.
For other ocasions, like when I go shopping or on a vacation, I want a car that has a lot of space in it and I simply can't stand the idea of hybrids having less space in the trunk because of the batteries. The problem is that nobody talks about this space limitation and many people are buying these cars but have no idea what they are getting into until they start using it
Yes right Mircea I just forgot to add this in the video at disadvantages 👍😪
put a LPG addition and u will have a hybrid car
That would as my thought exactly, BOOT SPACE!!!!
The battery in full hybrid in under the rear seat and doesnt influence the space in trunk/boot... a full hybrid is cheaper than public transport and goes 70-80% full electric in city from a distance. Lets say 10km it goes 7 or 8 full electric and 3 on petrol or hybrid mixt drive. But not at once instead of small cycles of 3km ev 500m petrol 3km ev 500m petrol and so on. Combined ev distance vs petrol distance is 75% ev.
A full hybrid seems to be the best, no need for charging with a cable (besides having ro refuel), and having a smart system where the energy of the car is saved in a battery to be later used again for extra efficiency and performance.
a mild hybrid is a great way to retrofit an existing platform. say you just recently finished a new car platform in 2020 and it still has some time before the replacement platform that supports a full hybrid is ready. well then adding a mild hybrid system is a great way since you don't need much more space to put stuff and can easily make use of modified versions of existing components.
True 👍
Great explanation! Keep up the good job!
Thanks Costin 🙏🙂Appreciate your feedback
If you can't recharge at home/work, then get a HEV. If you think you can drive more than 80% electric, then it makes more sense to get a full electric instead of a PHEV.
Right John 👍Totally agree
@@SDADanCars is it possible to drive in ev mode with a HEV ? if yes how far ? the battery is smaller
@@benkr5870 I have a Toyota Auris full hybrid (HEV) and yes, you can go in EV mode, but just 2 km max.
@@benkr5870 a hev drives 80% full ev in city from a distance. Let.s say 30km distance it drives 80% full ev. Ex:
3km ev 2km petrol 1km ev 100m petrol 3km ev 500m petrol and so on. When you add the ev distances vs petrol ones you get 80%
@@benkr5870
Un mhev a une batterie ridicule
Un hev a une batterie dix fois plus énergétique mais seulement 2km en 100% électrique mais tu peux faire 80km en 50% électrique car ça recharge très vite sur le couple du moteur essence.
Un phev a une batterie encore dix fois davantage énergétique et peut rouler 60km en 100% électrique
Les bev ont une batterie environ 10 fois davantage énergétique et peuvent parcourir 500km en 100% électrique voir davantage
J'attends les batteries à l'état solide avec les 1500km d'autonomie 😅
The mild ones are the best for city running, while the hybrid vehicles are for low emission areas, and the plug-ins for quiet residential areas.
Yes 👍 Thanks for the feedback 🙏
Mild hybrid cars are just normal petrol cars. Fake hybrid.
Hybrid means 2 engines - 1 petrol engine and 1 electric engine.
@@Baldur_1 je suis totalement d'accord.
Je trouve même honteux que les Peugeot diesel avec alterno demarreur soit noter GH sur leur carte grise en France (GH gasoil hybride) seulement parce qu'il y a un alterno demarreur sans batterie sans second moteur électrique (de la totale anormalité)
Good explanation! Keep up the good job 🙂
Thanks Sachin 👍🙏
Brilliant, short and concise info shared on all 3 buddy! Can you tell me when the electric functions come to use/activate on the Mild Hybrid please? :)
Thanks my friend for feedback 🙏 Depend on the car model …usualy electric on mild hybrid come when the car is coasting or starting or it is just help the ice motor sometimes to lift the power…
You forgot Subaru hybrid system. Which is technically a plug-in but is different from the one in your video
Yes true and now days are many New hybrid systems different 😁👍
Which one is the best for doing uber and travel long distance?thanks
Full hybrid 👍👍Or full electric long range
@@SDADanCars thanks🙏
Mazdas new suv brought me here. I’m wondering what the heck is a mild hybrid! I’ve only heard of hybrid and plug in lol 😆 Mazda just give me a hybrid version please.
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Il existe 4 niveaux
MHEV
Hev
Phev
Bev
good lucid explanation of the three types
Thanks 🙏
Danke !! Super info !
I have a mild hybrid car it reduces fuel consumption 0.5lt/100 and I love it when shut downs engine
Yes 👍
I appreciate your work!
Thanks 🙏👍
Thanks Very Well Done Explanation
Thanks for feedback my friend 🙏🤗
good explanation. For me, better choose Hybrid.
Good choice! 👍🙏Thanks for feedback
internal combusttion engine are relativly quite efficient under predicatable and consistant load thats where hybird and mild hybrid shine it help out with regenerative braking puting energy otherwise wasted back in to the drive train and help the engine aclerated during its less efficent low speed phase of its comsumption and mild hybrid especially can easily be manafacture and surported by today current exisiting infustructure i would in today world mild hybrid and hybrid being the most practical choice now with phev being 2nd and bev still having 1 or 2 more generation to mature.
True 👍👍
Good explanation
Thanks 🙏
My 2008 diesel had a range of 700 miles when it was new.
It still has a range of 700 miles today.
It takes a few minutes to fully refuel from empty
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J'espère seulement que le réservoir d'addblue ne va pas cristalliser 😂
congratulations! it also costs twice as much to run and has much worse performance and safety than an EV
my MG Rover is hybrid car too, because it runs on Gasolin and LPG
Yes right 👍
Merci Dan pour cette vidéo explicative
Merci a toi ami 🙏
@SDA Dan Card @Dan vide asta e foarte fain facut crezi ca poti sa faci unu si pe canalul romanesc sa il putem da celor care nu stiu cum e cu Hibdridul. Poate Merge cu un Voice Over. Multumesc
Merci 👍🙏 Da am in plan sa fac asta 😁 Sper foarte curand
You First Look
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I would like to get Car for PCO in london city but I’m confused whether Hybrid or plug-in Hybrid so please leave your Recommendation thanks
If you have time to charge it daily go with plug in hybrid. If you don't want to charge hybrid is good
Can you tell me what should I look for specifically when buying an used car?
Also, would you suggest a person to buy a new car or a used car when his/her budget is tight?
Second hand car is better for budget 👍 I will make a special video about what a person should look for. There are many things that have to be taken in consideration. Is hard to explain here fast
@@SDADanCars Thank you very much for your response. Will love to see a video on this topic.
buy a 5 years old car , it is still new but it lost the most of its price
Is hybrid cars propelled by engine or electric motor.
thanks for this video, could you talk about the BEV in an other video ?
I will do it 👍
@@SDADanCars thank you, I will be looking forward to it
My next vehicle will be a Phev. Switzerland's tax system is crazy...only 25% road taxes but almost 370cv combined h.p. For my 4x3 kilometer/day comute the eletric power is more than enough...only 50/60 km/h max speed roads from home to work! And for winter or long distances ICE power is always there. If home charging could be possible i would buy E.V. instead !! 🤗
Yes agree 👍
Do you make recommendations? Do you suggest that buying a PEH is better than buying an EV? I am looking to choose one among the European brands. Your suggestion is most welcomed. Thanks.
Rick actually if you ask me today I would say EV is the better choice for sure. But if you want Phev there are many good ones. If you get one Try to get one with more storage space.
EH... PEH?
Selon moi, hybride = Toyota Honda Hyundai Kia et aucune marque européenne n'arrivent à la cheville 😅
does plug in hybrid recharge itself with engine combustion and break ?
Yes 👍
how many liters of fuel consumption per 100 km? mild hybrite??
Depend on car 👍
I just bought a new huyundai Tucson hybrid system and it has a message check 48 volt system, What might be the cause?
It is the 48v battery...go to Hyundai service they will fix it fast 👍it happend before to other. Or just give them a call maybe they can fix it on phone.
The plug -in full hybrid can recharge itself while in the move or only with the cable?
Also in the move 👍👍
Le phev est un hev a batterie davantage énergétique et avec prise de recharge. Le phev est un super hev, même fonctionnement
Why is the PHEV your favourite 😍
Not i have a new Favorite . Full Hybrid system from Honda Civic or Nissan Qashqai. Plug in Hybrid was my favourite because you can also charge it and drive more km in electric mode. Now i think depend what you need personally. Depend how many km you drive daily.
If you have the possibility to charge it at home or work everyday plug in hybrid is good. If you can’t charge it daily go will full hybrid
It is extremely difficult to find out fuel consumption with 0 battery of PHEV because car manufacture use some weird formula that combines consumptions and it can be around 1.5L/100km. How to get 0 battery consumption?
Boris some phev cars have an option to work only on ICE engine and to preserve the battery VW Grup have it on their cars and you can notice the bigger consumption. I owned a GTE before and I know from experience 👍👍
@@SDADanCars yes, i know. But on websites and brochures they always display combined consumption :(
@@BorisTomas You can subtract the electrical range from 100km and use the remaining km as basis for the consumption figure. E.g. A250 has 75km e-range and 1.5l. 1.5l/25km = 6l/100km.
@@JohnDoe-vx3z but check this out, cupra formentor has 58km electric range, and 1.5L/100km which makes 3.57L/100km, a bit too low
Yes those numbers are a bit confusing 🤔That why I change my Plug in Hybrid for an Full Electric one....is much easy 😁
great !!! 🤩
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2 new models of Toyota is launched in India. 1. Mild hybrid ( Toyota Urban Cruiser Hyrider).
2. Strong/ Full Hybrid ( Toyota Urban Cruiser Hyrider).
I can afford the strong Hybrid. Which one shall I go for.
Full hybrid 👍👍
thanks . good summary of the three models. Do you know if the PHEV batteries are charged from braking or ICE (regenerative)?
Yes they charge as well as you brake 👍
Both
Les phev sont de super hev donc même fonctionnement avec possibilité de charge électrique sur prise ce qui est impossible avec hev
Plz give your feedback for Suzuki Wagor R FZ mild Hybrid
It is good 👍
@@SDADanCars thanks for your comment 👍
Watching the difference, the mild hybrid is basically the same normal ICE, the only difference is the efficiency, is more like an E-ICE (Efficient Internal Combustion Engine) 👌🏻💪🏻, therefore, that means that possibly the H2-ICEs (Hydrogen Combustion Engine) could be also mild hybrids or E-ICEs (how do i call them), the hybrid and plug in hybrid are the real hybrids (especially the PHEV) 💪🏻👏🏻
True 👍👍
What is the main mechanical problem(S) with the PHEV and or Hybrid?
Batteries, they die eventually, usually after 150.000 miles on older Prius cars, otherwise they are way more reliable than any CVT car, you look up how a Toyota hybrid transmission works, and you will be surprised by the simplicity of it.
Les batteries de certaines Prius 3 vont jusqu'à 270000km comme le système de freinage
Hard to say because it depends on car model and hybrid system
It surprises many people that many hybrids have about the same number, or fewer, mechanical pieces than conventional cars. Not more,
Many, if not all, of the devices that are usually driven by a serpentine belt can be replaced with electric versions. These may not have fewer parts, but they tend to be more reliable.
Those hybrids with just one motor usually put it in place of the flywheel, and everything else (except there is no alternator) is mostly the same. So the number of parts is quite similar.
Those with two motors use them as a "hybrid transmission." Not only does it replace the conventional transmission with far fewer pieces, it also replaces the clutch or torque converter, starter, and alternator. And, while the two motors are very similar devices to the starter and alternator, although bigger, they have fewer pieces.
Yes Jeff true 👍
I think the mild hybrid or an EV is my choice.
My is full hybrid or ev 👍
what is your honest opinion on the mild hybrid, is there a real advantage?
Peter it is a very small one ....maybe in many years you can feel it...
I have new Audi "mild-hybrid". That's just a marketing. NO real value. I did not spot any difference in consumption (I drive in a way to save fuel). I would say this is more anoying because software detect car in front of me move and start engine - even if there's no reason. Marketing, nothing more.
C'est du faux hybride. Autant prendre du hev davantage efficace
How many batteries do these type of cars have? And how many in an EV?
Meni In All Hybrid cars you have a 12v battery like in normal cars and another battery that it is use for hybrid system. Depending on Hybrid system the battery is bigger or smaller 👍👍
E-kicks = walking generator
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ANOTHER DISADVANTAGE FOR ALL ELECTRIC CARS HOME LOADING STATIONS COAST AROUND 3000 euro
It should be around 1000
Just give me a 6 liter V8😅😅
😁👍
Unfortunately, there are no real incentives for hybrid or electric cars here in Switzerland.
Yes this is really sad.....😪
That's a great news your gov has brains. Electric cars are still primitive and we can say anything about them but not that they are eco.
@@podunkman2709 au lieu de tirer du pétrole nous tirons du lithium
Will the car still run even without or defective 48v battery in the Mild Hybrid system? Thanks
From what I know will not work. You will get an error 👍
@@SDADanCarspourtant les mhev démarrent sur le moteur essence ??
Why are there so few "range extender" models, where the petrol or diesel engine _doesn't_ drive the wheels?
Why are there no models where the fuel engine doesn't drive the wheels, but can put out enough power to keep the battery charged - at least some of the time?
Good question 👍 Actualy I have Review recently a car that it is powered by electric motor but charged by Petrol motor and it had both inside. Interesting concept.
@@SDADanCars What make and model? Is your review online?
@@G6JPG pretty much every honda e:hev models use same technique.
Yes that is the new Nissan xtrail
C'est plutôt Honda qui fait cela ...
Can we convert diesel MERCEDES BENZ to PHEV?
Not sure ...🤔
Les diesel n'aiment pas les arrêts redémarrages intempestifs, ils s'encrasseront
Les MHEV mildhybrid sont incapables de rouler en mode 100% électrique 😅 de faux hybride
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