I have a CLA250e, the fuel efficiency is AMAZING!….runs on EV for school runs an pottering about, an when you put the boot down you have 220BHP when the petrol kicks in!….master the art of coasting an you’ll never look back!
I drive a 2022 GLS450. #1) How does the 48v battery get charged?, #2) Does the 48v battery operate any other vehicle functions other than the start-up assist (from a stop when the engine cuts off) ) and the mild acceleration boost? #3) Where is the 48v battery located in the vehicle and does it require regular replacement like a 12v starter battery? #4) Is the 48v battery starting the engine or does the 12v battery perform that initial task? #5) Lastly, how can I tell the percentage charge on the 48v battery and the 12v battery? (Similar to a cell phone)? .....and what is your recommended "best way" to keep the GLS450 batteries fully charged for an occasional use vehicle? Thanks.....great channel and excellent videos and narrative comments and instruction.
Hey Larry, don’t worry with a Mild Hybrid you don’t need to worry about any of those things! 🤓 The car just like the starter motor battery will optimise and control all of it. Because there are no functions other than boost and switching the engine more often, you can’t view the percentage of the battery as it is so small.
Hi Nick. Love your videos. Learned a lot about our Mercedes. Is it possible to do a special on the C Class Convertible? I know it has an Airscarf and probably other features not normally in a sedan. Keep up the great videos.
Thanks Mitch! Glad you love the videos! I wasn’t planning on doing a video on the C-Class cabriolet unless it gets an update or is replaced by a new model. C-Class cabriolet’s are very cool though! You can operate the roof while driving, there’s a wind deflector built in and of course the airscarf as you mentioned so yes a few things slightly different!
Hi, my wife has a gla 250e. Mostly runs full electric but does on occasion run on petrol. If you watch the energy direction on centre screen the petrol engine does and has put energy back into the battery while running at motorway speeds
People plugin to get 2% consumption on 100km I get 2.8% on full hybrid that does not plugin If you wanna call the full hibrid a mild is your choise but there are more types: Micro hibrid - 3hp Mild hibrid - 15hp 0.2kwh battery Full hibrid - 40hp 1kwh battery Plugin hibrid - 80hp 10kwh battery Range extended hibrid - 150hp 40kwh battery
@@npoleary even without hill down, we can charge to full through normal town driving when we drive on the charge mode. But slightly more fuel it will consume.
The big issue is the kind of journeys you do. I am looking at purchasing two family cars at the moment, and the issue I can foresee is that whilst a plug-in is great for short distances, daily commute, etc., it appears really to suffer (due to redundant weight) on the longer journeys, which I'm likely to be doing once a week. I think the solution is going to be one all-electric, and one mild hybrid. The plug-in seems to fall between two stools. Interested in others' thoughts.
If most of your journeys are going to be done on shorter journeys and you can plug-in then great! However if you rarely can plug it in, then a plug-in hybrid might not be the best option. If most journeys are done on electric, then that one you do per week is on fuel then that might still be okay!
Thanks for the explanation. For plug-in hybrid cars - the use case shown in the video with entering motorway: engine is not running and suddenly it is revved at 4k RPMs and higher - oil is cold, engine is cold, isn't this going to impact engine longenvity?
No worries! 🤓 Plug-in hybrids are designed with this in mind, long gone are the days where you have to “warm up” an engine. It’s advisable to drive an engine straight away. However of course with plug-in hybrids there is an element to driving when say you’re on electric and go to overtake someone, this can cause the engine to fire up and as you said go up to higher RPM from a cold start. Car manufacturers have loads of engine tech in place to help as well as varying viscosity of oils to help with lubrication in cold engine starts. Of course I would never race a cold engine but as soon as the engine starts, it’ll start to warm up within seconds. If you did race it, the car will limit how much power you can use anyway to protect it myself until it’s warmed up. And to further add, if it’s really cold you might have used Pre-Entry Climate Control which will warm the car up anyway! 🤓
If you have a service plan (I have one on my car) the price is exactly the same for servicing 🤓 Even for plug-in hybrids too! 👍🏼 In terms of tech, yes I’m sure it is quite complex in the engine bay but luckily I don’t ever need to look in there! Apart from when topping up the windscreen wash 😅
HI NICK CAN YOU DO A VIDEO OF MERCEDES BENZ C CLASS SALOON AGIN HOW TO TEST THE CAR ALARM AND HOW TO SOUND THE HORN IN THE NEW C CLASS DOSE IT SOUND THE SAME LIKE THE OLD C CLASS SALOON
So with a PHEV....if you are driving and run out of charge on your batteries, the gas engine takes over. While the gas engine is running (to get you the rest of the way on your journey), does the battery get a charge while you are burning fuel?
It’ll slowly add a little bit of power but would never be enough to charge it fully hence the name “plug-in hybrid”. But as you brake, it does offer a bit of recuperation via the brakes to charge it up a little.
If you run out of battery, you probably won’t even notice. The engine will just come on automatically. The cool thing is with plug-in hybrids is that you plug-in when you can / when you want to and you get cheaper motoring. But if you forgot or can’t, you’ll just run on fuel instead. Plug-in Hybrids need to be plugged in to charge though, the engine braking charges a little bit it’s minuscule. To actually drive on electric you need to charge it via a plug or public charge point.
Hi Nick, great video, thank you for clarifying the idea. I am actually looking around as I would like to purchase Mercedes e-class mild hybrid, but it looks like is nowhere to find. Can you please advise where I should look to find one? Any website, any dealer....anything that helps me to find this car to buy. thanks in advance😀
Hey Ana, thank you! I’ve not shopped around for one myself but if you’re after an Approved Used Mercedes or a new one check out the Online Showroom. shop.mercedes-benz.co.uk/ Or there’s Autotrader, Motors and a few other websites too 🤓
Hi nick, first you say "plug in hybrid don't self recharge" (4.05), but then yo said "assoon as you go to break you;'ll see that it will start putting charge back in the battery" (4.28). i'm little confusing ??
So basically to drive on electric you need to plug them in 🤓 But they do charge a small tiny bit when you brake. It’s only a really small amount though so won’t actually add noticeable miles if that makes sense. It just trickles electricity back in 🤓
I’ve covered DYNAMIC SELECT with the different drive modes if that’s what you mean? czcams.com/video/QzSYEP2eOSI/video.html I haven’t covered Brake Recuperation yet but I will in the future! 🤓
Hey Nick - I'm thinking of going hybrid of some sort and your video explained it very well! The plug in hybrid does seem to be the best for bridging the gap. Question: How long should a C class battery generally last and how much is it to purchase a new one? And I guess the car can run fine if there is no juice in the battery. Cheers!
Hey Weppe, thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video! Plug-in Hybrids and All-Electric cars are designed to last as long as Internal Combustion Engines (petrol & diesel). The only difference is that Mercedes warranty in the UK is for 3 years, but the battery is for 6 years on a Plug-in Hybrid. All-Electric cars have longer warranties such a 8 years or even 10 years. It doesn’t mean they stop working but they’ll keep going and going. It’s good to factor in though that as a battery ages (just like any Lithium-ion battery) the achievable range will go down as it gets older. Believe it or not though, there are still first generation Nissan Leafs still on the road!” From years ago! In terms of a price for a battery, sadly I wouldn’t know, today’s cost would be quite high (probably the same price as an engine) but by the time anyone would even need to consider something like that, due to mass production, it’ll hopefully go down slightly.
@@npolearyNick, I have a 2021 GLE AMG 63s and your videos are awesome like the vehicle. The knowledge I’ve acquired from your channel is unparalleled. Thank you
I would worry with plug-in hybrid, you'd need to do enough regular distance mileage to keep the petrol/diesel engine in good shape? So how often in practice would you need to do a Poole to London type distance? If I do a daily commute that is feasible on electric, and a longer drive a couple of times a month, is that enough or would mild hybrid or pure EV suit that profile better?
Hey projectruth, plug-in hybrids are an awesome concept, they basically convert some of your existing journeys into electric but without going into a fully electric car. Depending on the model, some will cover anything from 12 miles (first generation ones), to 27 miles to even as high as 60 miles (depends on how new it is how large the battery is). Sounds like that would work! 🤓 If most of your journeys are local and you can plug in, you’ll basically have almost a mini electric car but then when you go further, it’ll use the engine.
Hi. The new C class hybrid with 100km range of electric, should I consider one over regular C300? I'm quite worry about running out of battery charge because I frequently have unplanned long drives, 200km+, and oftenly 1 roadtrip per month. Furthermore, I live far from home.
Hey PoletheCat, ah I’ve covered a Plug-in Hybrid here: czcams.com/video/U-Tsc3xpU0g/video.html In a nutshell, it runs on electric first and when that runs out it simply switches over to the engine. What you described was a perfect scenario for a plug-in hybrid. Shorter journeys most of the time and then the odd time you need to do an unplanned drive, it’ll simply switch over automatically and will function just like a normal car. The only difference, when you want to (maybe when you’re back) simply plug it in and charge it up again 🤓
Hey Tora, sadly no not that I’m aware of. There are of course new models out with higher capacity batteries but unless it was modified and installed by a 3rd party, I don’t think it’s something that Mercedes offer
Hi Nick. I've got a B250e plug-in and have always wondered why manufacturers restrict the charging rate to 7.2kwh. I believe my car can charge more quickly in the European model.
Not sure what it’s like elsewhere but 99% of everyone’s homes in the UK can only output 7.2kW (the vast majority anyway) There are of course public chargers but it might have something to do with that?
Hey nick will the engine be more powerful when Andrew puts his foot down We’ll it work Andrew trying apple car play for the first time it was fantastic but is it very expensive for Andrew to buy a Apple Watch out right for The car Are they very expensive the Apple Watch to buy out right nick
@@npoleary hey just a quick question does nick have the se Apple Watch is that one your wearing in every car video on a Friday afternoon at four In the afternoon not what’s best one for Andrew to go for
How? A plug in hybrid works the same as mild hybrid, apart from that you can actually charge the plugin which will mean its cheaper to run because you dont use fuel to charge the battery. the plugin hybrids tend to have better range and power also.
I have a CLA250e, the fuel efficiency is AMAZING!….runs on EV for school runs an pottering about, an when you put the boot down you have 220BHP when the petrol kicks in!….master the art of coasting an you’ll never look back!
Great video as always Nick. Thanks so much for the comparison mate 😀
Thanks Darryl! Glad you enjoyed it! 😎
Well explained Nick - thanks for another informative video 👍
Thanks Mark! 🤓👍🏼
Hi Nick, I will buy full electric ⚡️ car rather than plug in hybrid. But beautiful vlog like always. Thanks 🙏
Thanks Jag! 🤓
I drive a 2022 GLS450. #1) How does the 48v battery get charged?, #2) Does the 48v battery operate any other vehicle functions other than the start-up assist (from a stop when the engine cuts off) ) and the mild acceleration boost? #3) Where is the 48v battery located in the vehicle and does it require regular replacement like a 12v starter battery? #4) Is the 48v battery starting the engine or does the 12v battery perform that initial task? #5) Lastly, how can I tell the percentage charge on the 48v battery and the 12v battery? (Similar to a cell phone)? .....and what is your recommended "best way" to keep the GLS450 batteries fully charged for an occasional use vehicle? Thanks.....great channel and excellent videos and narrative comments and instruction.
Hey Larry, don’t worry with a Mild Hybrid you don’t need to worry about any of those things! 🤓
The car just like the starter motor battery will optimise and control all of it. Because there are no functions other than boost and switching the engine more often, you can’t view the percentage of the battery as it is so small.
Very good video. Thank you
No worries! Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi Nick. Love your videos. Learned a lot about our Mercedes. Is it possible to do a special on the C Class Convertible? I know it has an Airscarf and probably other features not normally in a sedan. Keep up the great videos.
Thanks Mitch! Glad you love the videos! I wasn’t planning on doing a video on the C-Class cabriolet unless it gets an update or is replaced by a new model.
C-Class cabriolet’s are very cool though! You can operate the roof while driving, there’s a wind deflector built in and of course the airscarf as you mentioned so yes a few things slightly different!
@@npoleary. Yes, mu wife just got one and was scrolling through your page to find info on it. No worries. Keep up the great work.
Hi, my wife has a gla 250e. Mostly runs full electric but does on occasion run on petrol. If you watch the energy direction on centre screen the petrol engine does and has put energy back into the battery while running at motorway speeds
It can do depending on the situation, it’ll trickle in any (what would be) lost power. Quite a sophisticated set up a plug in hybrid!
People plugin to get 2% consumption on 100km
I get 2.8% on full hybrid that does not plugin
If you wanna call the full hibrid a mild is your choise but there are more types:
Micro hibrid - 3hp
Mild hibrid - 15hp 0.2kwh battery
Full hibrid - 40hp 1kwh battery
Plugin hibrid - 80hp 10kwh battery
Range extended hibrid - 150hp 40kwh battery
Hi Nick, nice video.
You may also add the option of charging while droving for the plug in. Specially when it is a slope down 😉
Thank you Ahmed! Yes they do slightly, you’d need a pretty big hill though! 😅
@@npoleary even without hill down, we can charge to full through normal town driving when we drive on the charge mode. But slightly more fuel it will consume.
Ah Ahmed, yes older models offer this but it’s not on any plug-in hybrid offered for sale now
@@npoleary ok, i see.
That was a good option 🤔
Thankyou 👍👍👍👍❤️
The big issue is the kind of journeys you do. I am looking at purchasing two family cars at the moment, and the issue I can foresee is that whilst a plug-in is great for short distances, daily commute, etc., it appears really to suffer (due to redundant weight) on the longer journeys, which I'm likely to be doing once a week. I think the solution is going to be one all-electric, and one mild hybrid. The plug-in seems to fall between two stools. Interested in others' thoughts.
If most of your journeys are going to be done on shorter journeys and you can plug-in then great! However if you rarely can plug it in, then a plug-in hybrid might not be the best option.
If most journeys are done on electric, then that one you do per week is on fuel then that might still be okay!
Thanks for the explanation. For plug-in hybrid cars - the use case shown in the video with entering motorway: engine is not running and suddenly it is revved at 4k RPMs and higher - oil is cold, engine is cold, isn't this going to impact engine longenvity?
No worries! 🤓
Plug-in hybrids are designed with this in mind, long gone are the days where you have to “warm up” an engine. It’s advisable to drive an engine straight away. However of course with plug-in hybrids there is an element to driving when say you’re on electric and go to overtake someone, this can cause the engine to fire up and as you said go up to higher RPM from a cold start.
Car manufacturers have loads of engine tech in place to help as well as varying viscosity of oils to help with lubrication in cold engine starts.
Of course I would never race a cold engine but as soon as the engine starts, it’ll start to warm up within seconds. If you did race it, the car will limit how much power you can use anyway to protect it myself until it’s warmed up.
And to further add, if it’s really cold you might have used Pre-Entry Climate Control which will warm the car up anyway! 🤓
So much more complex technology, so much more that can go wrong, and so much more expensive to maintain, service or fix faults.
If you have a service plan (I have one on my car) the price is exactly the same for servicing 🤓
Even for plug-in hybrids too! 👍🏼
In terms of tech, yes I’m sure it is quite complex in the engine bay but luckily I don’t ever need to look in there! Apart from when topping up the windscreen wash 😅
HI NICK CAN YOU DO A VIDEO OF MERCEDES BENZ C CLASS SALOON AGIN HOW TO TEST THE CAR ALARM AND HOW TO SOUND THE HORN IN THE NEW C CLASS DOSE IT SOUND THE SAME LIKE THE OLD C CLASS SALOON
So with a PHEV....if you are driving and run out of charge on your batteries, the gas engine takes over. While the gas engine is running (to get you the rest of the way on your journey), does the battery get a charge while you are burning fuel?
It’ll slowly add a little bit of power but would never be enough to charge it fully hence the name “plug-in hybrid”. But as you brake, it does offer a bit of recuperation via the brakes to charge it up a little.
What happens if you run out of battery during driving?
You can drive in gas engine till you can charge it ?
If you run out of battery, you probably won’t even notice. The engine will just come on automatically.
The cool thing is with plug-in hybrids is that you plug-in when you can / when you want to and you get cheaper motoring.
But if you forgot or can’t, you’ll just run on fuel instead.
Plug-in Hybrids need to be plugged in to charge though, the engine braking charges a little bit it’s minuscule. To actually drive on electric you need to charge it via a plug or public charge point.
Hi Nick, great video, thank you for clarifying the idea. I am actually looking around as I would like to purchase Mercedes e-class mild hybrid, but it looks like is nowhere to find. Can you please advise where I should look to find one? Any website, any dealer....anything that helps me to find this car to buy. thanks in advance😀
I’m actually looking for the same model.. Also when did the Mild hybrid production started for E-class which year?
Hey Ana, thank you! I’ve not shopped around for one myself but if you’re after an Approved Used Mercedes or a new one check out the Online Showroom.
shop.mercedes-benz.co.uk/
Or there’s Autotrader, Motors and a few other websites too 🤓
I’m sure it was only over the past couple of years or so 🤓
Hi nick, first you say "plug in hybrid don't self recharge" (4.05), but then yo said "assoon as you go to break you;'ll see that it will start putting charge back in the battery" (4.28).
i'm little confusing ??
So basically to drive on electric you need to plug them in 🤓
But they do charge a small tiny bit when you brake.
It’s only a really small amount though so won’t actually add noticeable miles if that makes sense. It just trickles electricity back in 🤓
This is brilliant, currently looking at 2021 glc couple . Is the remote start available on all models or just plug in hybrid
Thank you!
Remote Heating and cooling is just available on plug-in hybrids and electric cars in the UK in Mercedes
in what video do you describe how to ajust the hybrid by breaking or just lifting the foot from the accelerator pedal om a a250e
I’ve covered DYNAMIC SELECT with the different drive modes if that’s what you mean?
czcams.com/video/QzSYEP2eOSI/video.html
I haven’t covered Brake Recuperation yet but I will in the future! 🤓
Are they very expensive will it work with Andrew i pad to get the apple car play and I do like a very powerful engine nick
Thanks Nick, so the mild hybrid option does not have a battery taking up boot space?
It takes up a bit of space underneath I think but it’s barely noticeable.
Not actually sure where they put the extra bits to make it work 😅
@@npoleary Swapping out my E300 Diesel shortly and it's my first time navigating the EV side of things. Thanks for the reply.
Hey Nick - I'm thinking of going hybrid of some sort and your video explained it very well! The plug in hybrid does seem to be the best for bridging the gap.
Question: How long should a C class battery generally last and how much is it to purchase a new one? And I guess the car can run fine if there is no juice in the battery.
Cheers!
Hey Weppe, thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video!
Plug-in Hybrids and All-Electric cars are designed to last as long as Internal Combustion Engines (petrol & diesel).
The only difference is that Mercedes warranty in the UK is for 3 years, but the battery is for 6 years on a Plug-in Hybrid. All-Electric cars have longer warranties such a 8 years or even 10 years.
It doesn’t mean they stop working but they’ll keep going and going. It’s good to factor in though that as a battery ages (just like any Lithium-ion battery) the achievable range will go down as it gets older.
Believe it or not though, there are still first generation Nissan Leafs still on the road!” From years ago!
In terms of a price for a battery, sadly I wouldn’t know, today’s cost would be quite high (probably the same price as an engine) but by the time anyone would even need to consider something like that, due to mass production, it’ll hopefully go down slightly.
@@npolearyNick, I have a 2021 GLE AMG 63s and your videos are awesome like the vehicle. The knowledge I’ve acquired from your channel is unparalleled. Thank you
I would worry with plug-in hybrid, you'd need to do enough regular distance mileage to keep the petrol/diesel engine in good shape? So how often in practice would you need to do a Poole to London type distance? If I do a daily commute that is feasible on electric, and a longer drive a couple of times a month, is that enough or would mild hybrid or pure EV suit that profile better?
Hey projectruth, plug-in hybrids are an awesome concept, they basically convert some of your existing journeys into electric but without going into a fully electric car.
Depending on the model, some will cover anything from 12 miles (first generation ones), to 27 miles to even as high as 60 miles (depends on how new it is how large the battery is).
Sounds like that would work! 🤓
If most of your journeys are local and you can plug in, you’ll basically have almost a mini electric car but then when you go further, it’ll use the engine.
look out for YT video demonsrating how to replace integrated starter/generator on mercedes....mild hybrid.....looks like $10k of labour....plus parts
Good job mine’s under warranty 😅
Have you got a link so I can watch?
@@npoleary lifetime warranty?
Haha no
Just 3 years from new
Does a plug in hybrid have a smaller fuel tank?
Usually yes, it depends on the model and size of the car 🤓
Hi. The new C class hybrid with 100km range of electric, should I consider one over regular C300? I'm quite worry about running out of battery charge because I frequently have unplanned long drives, 200km+, and oftenly 1 roadtrip per month. Furthermore, I live far from home.
I don't quite understand if example driving in "Hybrid mode" for long drive, will the battery be completely dead and put more load to the engine?
Hey PoletheCat, ah I’ve covered a Plug-in Hybrid here: czcams.com/video/U-Tsc3xpU0g/video.html
In a nutshell, it runs on electric first and when that runs out it simply switches over to the engine. What you described was a perfect scenario for a plug-in hybrid. Shorter journeys most of the time and then the odd time you need to do an unplanned drive, it’ll simply switch over automatically and will function just like a normal car. The only difference, when you want to (maybe when you’re back) simply plug it in and charge it up again 🤓
@@npoleary oh thankyou so much for clarify!
do they do hybrids in both diesel and petrol?
In some models yes 🤓
C-Class released this year is the first model in Mercedes with Mild Hybrid in Petrol & Diesel 👍🏼
Hi Nick .. I have a 2017 C350e .. its EV battery is relatively small .. is there any way to upgrade the EV battery to one with a high capacity???
Hey Tora, sadly no not that I’m aware of. There are of course new models out with higher capacity batteries but unless it was modified and installed by a 3rd party, I don’t think it’s something that Mercedes offer
@@npoleary Too bad .. but thanks for the reply and love the videos :)
Hi Nick. I've got a B250e plug-in and have always wondered why manufacturers restrict the charging rate to 7.2kwh. I believe my car can charge more quickly in the European model.
Not sure what it’s like elsewhere but 99% of everyone’s homes in the UK can only output 7.2kW (the vast majority anyway)
There are of course public chargers but it might have something to do with that?
Hey nick will the engine be more powerful when Andrew puts his foot down
We’ll it work Andrew trying apple car play for the first time it was fantastic but is it very expensive for Andrew to buy a Apple Watch out right for The car
Are they very expensive the Apple Watch to buy out right nick
It sure will! 🤓
They’re not too expensive but they’re pretty cool!
@@npoleary will Andrew definitely need to keep his Apple Watch and I phone in the car so works In gle suv
You’ll need your phone if you want to use Apple CarPlay 🤓
@@npoleary hey just a quick question does nick have the se Apple Watch is that one your wearing in every car video on a Friday afternoon at four In the afternoon not what’s best one for Andrew to go for
Do you now nick
Mild hybrid has more to offer than plug in hybrid in my opinion
How? A plug in hybrid works the same as mild hybrid, apart from that you can actually charge the plugin which will mean its cheaper to run because you dont use fuel to charge the battery. the plugin hybrids tend to have better range and power also.