I'm back in a diesel after 4yrs running both EV & PHEV. What needs to change to get me to go back?

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  • Why I've gone back to driving a diesel after 2 years with an EV and then 2.5 years driving a PHEV as our family car. What needs to change to get me to go back to EV?
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  • @GeoffBuysCars
    @GeoffBuysCars Před 3 měsíci +2909

    So 63% of new car buyers are fleet buyers... they are heavily incentivised into EVs... but when those EVs come off the lease, there isn't an appetite for them in the 2nd hand market... so it's really quite simple to see why the 2nd hand prices of EVs are bombing because supply is far outstripping demand. the government can publish whatever they like and blame Rowan Atkinson but that's the simple facts and maths of it.

    • @WouterHermans
      @WouterHermans Před 3 měsíci +50

      These cars are not going to the second hand market yet. The second hand car market is now suffering from too much stock after the post Covid supply chain crisis, when residuals went up, and now come down again.

    • @MrAlpinab7
      @MrAlpinab7 Před 3 měsíci +44

      @@jone8626 Hear hear !!

    • @splashmaster2000
      @splashmaster2000 Před 3 měsíci +95

      @@jone8626 My Jag always breaks down, so I'll never buy another car with a combustion engine. That's the level of your logic.

    • @emailstomarek
      @emailstomarek Před 3 měsíci +53

      ​@@splashmaster2000 will never buy Jag only! 😂

    • @RandyRodgirth
      @RandyRodgirth Před 3 měsíci +93

      @@WouterHermansover 700 Taycan’s and over 700 e-Tron’s on auto trader right now, with Taycan’s starting in the £40k region and e-Trons less than £20k. They definitely are starting to outstrip demand in the 2nd hand market.

  • @adrianrowden8266
    @adrianrowden8266 Před 3 měsíci +841

    Harry, I did agree with you 100%, but that has already dropped to 87%...

    • @petemulhearn7787
      @petemulhearn7787 Před 3 měsíci +38

      😂👍

    • @Andy_Holbrook332
      @Andy_Holbrook332 Před 3 měsíci +46

      That’s brilliant humour!!

    • @Vattiis_Happonnen
      @Vattiis_Happonnen Před 3 měsíci +20

      @adrianrowden8266 what kind of climate are you in? 😂😂
      I suspect I won't get much back from commenting, despite the incentives

    • @daverich3352
      @daverich3352 Před 3 měsíci +26

      It might come back up when the weather warms up.

    • @richardmosley4549
      @richardmosley4549 Před 3 měsíci +26

      I live in a hot country so I can only half agree with you....!

  • @tchauish
    @tchauish Před měsícem +43

    My 17 years old corolla still has 100% mile efficiency.

    • @therpope
      @therpope Před 22 dny +1

      Except it needs to be serviced twice a year

    • @tchauish
      @tchauish Před 22 dny +5

      @@therpope Service is cheap

    • @BillClinton228
      @BillClinton228 Před 20 dny +3

      I don't understand the problem, if your EV doesn't give you the performance you want just give it to your butler and buy a new one.... easy solution

    • @timothykeith1367
      @timothykeith1367 Před 18 dny

      ​​@@therpopeOil changes are mostly done by gravity in a Corolla, but you can also suction the oil out the top. Some vehicles have difficult to reach oil filters.

    • @organickevinlondon
      @organickevinlondon Před 12 dny +1

      BUT, after 17 years, '@7,500 miles per year,
      it's banged out about 25 tons of CO2. @ 1 and 1/2 tons per year.

  • @alisonauchterlonie8212
    @alisonauchterlonie8212 Před 2 měsíci +108

    What a breath of fresh air and common sense. I couldn’t agree more.

    • @aequlasr
      @aequlasr Před měsícem +1

      Fresh air‽

    • @cyjanek7818
      @cyjanek7818 Před měsícem

      What fresh air lmao, you like it because you agree with the title and that's it.
      Same things are being said since 2012 at least

    • @BillClinton228
      @BillClinton228 Před 20 dny +2

      In my country EV's cost double and in some cases triple the price of internal combustion engine cars... plus power is not cheap here unless you have solar. So there's really no incentive for anyone to buy EV's and if car dealers stop selling EV's they will go out of business because people will just drive and repair their old cars. Even rental companies dont offer EV's here because it doesn't make any sense.
      The world isn't the UK or America, so good luck phasing ICE cars out by 2030, you will go out of business very quickly.

  • @alunpiggott6452
    @alunpiggott6452 Před 3 měsíci +1301

    I think that the worst problems with new cars are the driver interference and distraction systems.

    • @harrysgarage
      @harrysgarage  Před 3 měsíci +735

      I’m saving that one for another video 😉

    • @malcolmhardwick4258
      @malcolmhardwick4258 Před 3 měsíci +79

      And all those dings and dongs !

    • @SimonLloydGuitar
      @SimonLloydGuitar Před 3 měsíci +69

      They are so clever, that they are stupid.

    • @Iceeeen
      @Iceeeen Před 3 měsíci +71

      @@harrysgarage Really wish journalist would start to acutally talk about how bad many of theese systems work. How in there right mind thought is was god to make it mandatory. They are horrible on any other than a bright sunny july day, not to talk about when it's snow on the road.
      Then this madness about going full touch screen. Whyyyy, it's so slow to use, the Van at work was a diesel and is now electric of the same model (due to the same reason mentioned here + to please the investors). But for some reason they felt the need to fit it with a utterly garbage touch screen that takes forever to just boot up. Not to talk about to just change the stupid radio station. also the sound qulity has gone down the drain, it's sound utterly garbage
      It also used to beep at everyting but solwed that with driving a screw driver through the speaker. Oh heavens the quiteness.....

    • @jonathancarson1974
      @jonathancarson1974 Před 3 měsíci +144

      The headlights are becoming an issue. I struggle to drive at night in the rain with oncoming traffic. They need dialled down, a LOT.

  • @davidfoster3814
    @davidfoster3814 Před 3 měsíci +314

    28 minutes and 45 seconds of pure common sense . I learnt a lot . Thank you Harry .

    • @RobH.
      @RobH. Před 3 měsíci +11

      Only half the story, but if that's what you want to hear, then fair enough!

    • @motri5935
      @motri5935 Před 3 měsíci +7

      What is the othwr half? ​@@RobH.

    • @westers1514
      @westers1514 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@RobH. Yes, what's the other half of the story? Or is your post nonsense with no evidence to back up your claims?

    • @Exogensis
      @Exogensis Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@RobH.That’s a throwaway comment if ever I saw one. The Internet is full of them these days 😂

    • @womblechops
      @womblechops Před 3 měsíci +5

      ​@@motri5935he's a bit glib but I think Harry did briefly cover the other side of the coin when he did refer to the overall drive of carbon reduction. Where harry slightly gets it not "wrong" but badly valued is where he talks about the "cars are only 7% of emissions" and people may take it as an excuse that we shouldnt bother. The fact is 7% is still massive!
      I really like this video and I personally took it as guidance on what we should be doing to get it right and not why we shouldn't all throw it in and buy a diesel.

  • @ILostMyKeys
    @ILostMyKeys Před 2 měsíci +112

    I work in the used car industry everything this man is saying is true. Used EV sales are bombing HARD

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon Před 2 měsíci +2

      ok as a second emergency car that you can trickle charge. about it. when they hit 5k might get i suppose

    • @Cecil-yc6mc
      @Cecil-yc6mc Před měsícem

      *if* that we true then it's only going to increase EV adoption

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon Před měsícem +8

      @@Cecil-yc6mc like old laptops and phones?

    • @dm0065
      @dm0065 Před měsícem +8

      ​@Cecil-yc6mc You're looking at it strangely I think. If you have to dump a product at pennies on the dollar to shift it thats hardly a time to get bullish on the future of that product.

    • @Karl-Benny
      @Karl-Benny Před měsícem +1

      Because they are waiting for the new tech and cheaper EV Im Pro PHEV it makes sense

  • @alankemp2415
    @alankemp2415 Před 13 dny +7

    This is my first time listening to Harry's garage. Brilliant presentation. Clear, logical issues and discussion. Tks heaps from Melbourne!!

  • @keithdarcy7302
    @keithdarcy7302 Před 3 měsíci +340

    If ever there was a Harry's Garage episode that should take 4 hours... this is it!!! Brilliant insight!!!

    • @Rickwardful
      @Rickwardful Před 3 měsíci +2

      For the first time since the L320, the RRS looks pretty again!

    • @grahamcook9289
      @grahamcook9289 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Hardly. I wonder what has really upset Harry?

    • @FenderUsa
      @FenderUsa Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@grahamcook9289 don't like what ya heard eh?

    • @v12-s65
      @v12-s65 Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@grahamcook9289 you heard him right mate, spoke nothing but facts

    • @mw8653
      @mw8653 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Quentin Wilson would be pulling his hair out watching this.

  • @mvmallinson
    @mvmallinson Před 3 měsíci +470

    Absolutely brilliant journalism, you need to make a speech in front of the House of Commons

    • @peterream9437
      @peterream9437 Před 3 měsíci

      Wouldn't happen unfortunately as we'd all realise , that yet again the government tells lies.
      Just look at Tony Blair ...Weapons of mass destruction.

    • @kevinashurst634
      @kevinashurst634 Před 3 měsíci +14

      please don't. Harrys reasons for not buying an EV are pretty weak.

    • @marwood1969
      @marwood1969 Před 3 měsíci +64

      @@kevinashurst634 You mean like the cost, the resale, the range, the problems with insurance and the vanishing battery power? Yes, what WAS he going on about?

    • @Spleen214
      @Spleen214 Před 3 měsíci +25

      @@kevinashurst634I think you accidentally watched one video and commented on this one by mistake!

    • @PiefacePete46
      @PiefacePete46 Před 3 měsíci +10

      @@kevinashurst634 : Our only car is an EV, and we are smitten with it. This video raises questions for us; I would not dismiss it lightly.
      The EV works great for us. It would not work well enough to consider for four out of five of our neighbours. There is a really strong case for use as a second car.

  • @paulfinch5417
    @paulfinch5417 Před 2 měsíci +60

    The 7% of total CO2 from cars/bikes was a real shock … and absolutely agree that manaufacturers are too focussed on the wrong performance, bring down costs and increase distance … who really gives a jot about 0-60 … my friend has stepped out of the i-Pace after 3-yrs (£77k new, trade in £21k!!!!!) for petrol Q5 and now enjoys driving again

    • @jonasweber9408
      @jonasweber9408 Před měsícem +3

      7% may not be enough to justify the little discomfort he has to go through of having to wait more time at a charger but for the 8 billion people not as old as him it will be a question of life and death…

    • @andrewtempest6792
      @andrewtempest6792 Před měsícem +6

      @@jonasweber9408 Electric cars do not result in zero CO2, just less. If if all cars on the road were electric, total CO2 would be reduced by a lot less than 7%.

    • @jonasweber9408
      @jonasweber9408 Před měsícem +1

      @@andrewtempest6792 yes of course I know It depends of a lot of variables nether the less switching to EVs while greatly reducing the number of cars on the road is better than doing nothing… 😞
      And it deeply sadden me as a passionate of cars

    • @sirrathersplendid4825
      @sirrathersplendid4825 Před měsícem +4

      You do realise that the electricity ⚡️ used to power an EV is not CO2 free?
      Also scrapping ICE cars prematurely, long before they’re worn out, has a massive cost in terms of the emissions to build a new vehicle.

    • @sierraecho884
      @sierraecho884 Před 29 dny +1

      Why thou ? Who gives a shit about CO2, I drive my Polo from 2011 with over 230k km still, the thing cost me 10k back in the day. I could never drive that cheap owning an EV.

  • @Iberianexplorer
    @Iberianexplorer Před 2 měsíci +15

    What a great video! I could not have explained all of those points in the video any better. I think that everyone who is contemplating buying a new car should watch this video. Thanks for taking the time to explain in a way that is easy to understand.

  • @Mattceeee
    @Mattceeee Před 3 měsíci +241

    As an EV owner of 5 years and also a 6 cylinder petrol car, this is one of the best and most balanced videos I’ve seen about EVs and agree with pretty much everything you say

    • @doriangray6985
      @doriangray6985 Před 2 měsíci +1

      As an EV owner yourself what is your opinion of EVs?

    • @Mattceeee
      @Mattceeee Před 2 měsíci

      @@doriangray6985 I love the way they drive, the instant torque and speed of them and they are very cheap to run if home charging on a good EV tariff. I very rarely public charge so that makes life less stressfull and much cheaper. Remote heating and cooling is ace as Is the defrost function. The Tesla app is miles ahead of anything else out there too, whether EV or ICE.
      Having no key as such, no on/off button and just using a phone which automatically locks and unlocks as you walk up to it makes it a breeze.
      But… depreciation is horrible on them, they are very difficult to trade in at most dealers and I wouldn’t buy one personally. Like prob 90% of owners, (from what main dealers say the figure is vs personal buyers), the tax breaks, low BIK is what made me (my company) get one so it was really sold on incentives rather than me actually wanting one. Take away these incentives for tax etc and I would imagine the EV market would almost collapse overnight.

    • @robg521
      @robg521 Před měsícem +1

      This is the only scenario where it will work.
      A little EV charging up at home where you only ever run it to the shops and back, [so maximum lifetime capacity for the batteries is maintained]
      and also own an ICE engine car to use for when you need to use a vehicle to actually do anything.

  • @juliandale50
    @juliandale50 Před 3 měsíci +255

    Harry I live in a council flat. I’m on the breadline but even if I could afford a car I’ve 0 chances of home charging . Like millions of others who can just about afford an old fiesta or something.
    Love your vids on both channels ❤❤

    • @julianevans9548
      @julianevans9548 Před 3 měsíci +12

      Exactly. EVs - if you live in a flat, you're screwed. Or do you have the spare time to spend (approximate figures) an hour charging for every 200 miles you want to drive?
      The major problem is not EVs - it’s the lack of a charging network. The people who ignore that are the ‘I’m alright, Jack, I charge at home’ brigade - great for you, not for others.
      (Oh, and if an EV works for your particular situation, do tell us all, because that means they work for everyone.)

    • @mr488gto8
      @mr488gto8 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Me 2 👍

    • @rocklover7437
      @rocklover7437 Před 3 měsíci +9

      People falling over extension cables because you haven't got a off street drive way and claiming off insurance companies will also be a problem

    • @Franksey180
      @Franksey180 Před 3 měsíci +6

      When EV's first became a thing I thought of exactly your situation. In densely populated areas with apartment / high rise homes, what was supposed to be the charging solution even if everyone could afford an EV? Would there be a new mass construction of "Park and Ride" type sites - "Park and Charge" (and ride a bus back to your home location which may not be five minutes walk away?).
      Also if "Park and Charge" (on large scale) sites existed, imagine the safety risk of having that many Lithium batteries in one location.

    • @tonyb3629
      @tonyb3629 Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@julianevans9548 There *are* many problems with EV's, and it's not just the charging network. Upfront cost, depreciation, insurance etc.

  • @johnparnell8571
    @johnparnell8571 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Harry, thank you for putting this across so comprehensively, and fairly. Spot on!

  • @bigdh2os814
    @bigdh2os814 Před 2 měsíci +36

    That was a very detailed and fair assessment in my book. Thank you for your time and dedication to bringing Real News to us all. SUBSCRIBED :)

    • @jonasweber9408
      @jonasweber9408 Před 2 měsíci

      But the guy is clueless on a lot of things about EVs, why do you listen to him in the first place?

    • @tug1345
      @tug1345 Před měsícem +2

      ​@jonasweber9408 On what things is he clueless, he talks about cars he's ran and had experience with

    • @bigdh2os814
      @bigdh2os814 Před měsícem +1

      @@jonasweber9408 some people just want their belief / position on a subject to be the right and only one. Open your eyes , ears, & mind to listen to reason. Then make your own educated decision for yourself. I made mine.

    • @jonasweber9408
      @jonasweber9408 Před měsícem

      @@bigdh2os814 no but mate I’m not talking about opinions, if this guy said to you “you can put gas into a diesel car” you would not give credit to the guy.
      That’s kind of the level of technically he has about EVs, I can’t take him seriously about EVs when he’s wrong about some basics…

    • @bigdh2os814
      @bigdh2os814 Před měsícem

      @@jonasweber9408 And that's your Opinion that you so deserve.

  • @car_pal
    @car_pal Před 3 měsíci +1763

    22:23 Strongly agree on putting an efficiency rating on electric cars, they put it on TVs and other electric appliances why not on cars? Just because there are "zero" emissions doesn't mean you get to comsume all the electricity without care, resources are needed to produce electricity with or without fossil fuels.

    • @SHRModding
      @SHRModding Před 3 měsíci +11

      Wow didn't expect to see you here lol

    • @cyman777
      @cyman777 Před 3 měsíci +38

      That is such BS since BEV are so much more efficient already. Also, a stronger BEV does not mean it is less efficient - on the contrary - it can recoup more electricy into the battery when braking.

    • @QALibrary
      @QALibrary Před 3 měsíci +9

      A lot of EV people want that to happen and have been pushing for it

    • @_chipchip
      @_chipchip Před 3 měsíci +103

      @@cyman777It’s not BS. More mass, means more power is required to move it. Look at the size of the battery on the new hummer. There’s a reason it’s a bit bigger than a Prius!

    • @xxxxxtrxxx13
      @xxxxxtrxxx13 Před 3 měsíci +67

      ​@@cyman777 We are talking about the efficency of the vehicle, not just the powertrain alone, pal

  • @gloriamartinelli7899
    @gloriamartinelli7899 Před 3 měsíci +231

    It was high time for someone to say how things really are, giving fact and figures to support their speech. Thumbs up for you Harry!

  • @owaisi0951
    @owaisi0951 Před 2 měsíci +3

    One important point that was missed here was that we are constantly inhaling hazardous fumes that are injurious to health, often at times sitting in traffic. It's not about total carbon emissions.

  • @sellma111
    @sellma111 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I can't charge at home as i don't have a drive, i have to rely on the network 100%. Its hell on earth. I hate my car, as soon as i get in it i start worrying about the next charge. My stress levels have gone through the roof. The only way this works is if you are lucky enough to have home charge and have an A to B job.

  • @a20dmd
    @a20dmd Před 3 měsíci +114

    If politicians tell you to do something, the opposite is usually the better option.

    • @linuxtuxfriend9155
      @linuxtuxfriend9155 Před 3 měsíci

      Unfortunately, the tax payers have to foot the bill anyway, paying for the stupid decisions politicians made.

    • @shadowx2k2007
      @shadowx2k2007 Před 3 měsíci

      Yep, like labelling people who gosh give roper advice on EV's is somehow "hurting" EV sales!

    • @milhouse147
      @milhouse147 Před 3 měsíci +5

      This applies to all areas of life! ;)

    • @barry5138
      @barry5138 Před 3 měsíci +5

      I'd replace usually with always!!!!

    • @fromalandfarfaraway4192
      @fromalandfarfaraway4192 Před 3 měsíci +1

      My experience, but it is more like always and not usually.

  • @001razz
    @001razz Před 3 měsíci +314

    Genuinely think electric should be for city cars / bike / electric scooters. Keep them cheap and cheerful

    • @colin5577
      @colin5577 Před 3 měsíci +14

      100%. I’ve an i3S and though I think it’s brilliant, I’d be the first to admit that in many ways it’s a glorified pram and in no way replaces an actual car with a Winter range of less than 200 miles. It goes back in March and I won’t be getting another EV.

    • @humphreybradley3060
      @humphreybradley3060 Před 3 měsíci +25

      I’ve driven an EV for 4 years, used it for road trips all over Europe. So that statement is not correct

    • @kevinharker1840
      @kevinharker1840 Před 3 měsíci

      Agree.

    • @iandavidson99
      @iandavidson99 Před 3 měsíci +5

      12 years ago Renault showed us the way with the Twizy (2012). I have one and love it!

    • @rocklover7437
      @rocklover7437 Před 3 měsíci +2

      India use CNG powered cars ,trucks and buses .Some of the CNG is made from household waste .Twin scuba diving sized tanks don't rob boot space like LPG tanks .

  • @richardsimms251
    @richardsimms251 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Excellent talk. Thank you.
    RS. Canada

  • @user-lv1fd8zg1u
    @user-lv1fd8zg1u Před 2 měsíci

    This is absolutely brilliant Harry, thanks for putting the video together. Very, very informative and has helped me decide on the energy input for my next car!

  • @dynamohums
    @dynamohums Před 3 měsíci +155

    "If I want to drive something quick,. I've got the toys" - proceeds to point at the Lamborghinis 😀. Never change Harry!

    • @robbrent
      @robbrent Před 3 měsíci +2

      “Something very quick surely”🤔😂 not that a RRS is not fast by many standards.

    • @martinmoore7551
      @martinmoore7551 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Don't you just love his humour.

  • @mikep.5517
    @mikep.5517 Před 3 měsíci +255

    I can't think of a presenter better suited to expounding upon these truths than Harry Metcalfe. Thank you, sir, for being a stoic & eloquent voice of reason in this current climate of idiocy.

    • @EP-bb1rm
      @EP-bb1rm Před 3 měsíci +1

      The battery degradation was a car with nearly 250,000km on it.

    • @johnh3095
      @johnh3095 Před 3 měsíci +8

      He made his points very well. I think one area where EVs make perfect sense (apart from their current massive sizes and weights) would be in big cities.
      EV delivery vans and an EV K-car culture (little Honda E, VW e-Up etc) around places like London would be great. Quiet, being used in the environment they are made for, not 2.7ton SUV EVs that only ever see a kerb at their local schools!
      I lived in Germany for close to 15years. If you wanted to buy a car (pre EVs) the dealer would ask you what sort of journeys you did mainly, and how many Km a year. If you said I do 5000km in and around town doing errands etc, they would almost refuse to sell you a diesel as that would not make sense. If however you did 30,000km mostly shooting between big cities on the autobahn, a diesel was your only option!
      I have a diesel now, however after moving house and WFH being enforced on me, we do bugger all long journeys, so a small petrol or an EV home charged would be perfect!
      Euro standards made engines get more efficient, but OEMs then made their cars fatter negating all those gains!
      Battery health and a proper Use Case profile should be used to steer you towards your next car!
      Great you chose the diesel, but I still can't understand why it had to be an SUV and not a large Estate! BMW 5 series with an efficient 2.0 TDI! I'd go for the Skoda Superb, it's superb in every way!

    • @philiphawkins4684
      @philiphawkins4684 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Didn't mention that local pollution for electricity is zero... While however good thinks his diesel is it still producing heavy particle pollution that causes cancer.

    • @Superman-nn4nw
      @Superman-nn4nw Před měsícem +2

      At the end of the day nobody is going to tell me what I drive. It’s down to personal opinion. If you don’t like EV’s then don’t buy one simple.

    • @yelapa999
      @yelapa999 Před 24 dny

      @@philiphawkins4684 Yes, for pollution yo need to consider the pollution that may not be local-at the source(s) of electricity, many of which merrily continue to produce CO2 in order to produce those, ahem, "green" electrons.

  • @doublebackagain4311
    @doublebackagain4311 Před 2 měsíci +1

    By Far the best video I have seen discussing the realities of electric vehicles. So much wisdom here. Subscribed & Thank You.

  • @scottwalker861
    @scottwalker861 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank you Harry. Great video with sound reasons for your purchase.

  • @creperanch8968
    @creperanch8968 Před 3 měsíci +201

    Journalistic integrity, something lost long ago in the car review world in preference to advertising cash and pandering to manufacturers to ensure they are invited to test the future cars. Love what you're doing Harry and thanks for doing it.

    • @AKA001
      @AKA001 Před 3 měsíci

      Wow. Quoting James Titcomb and Matt Oliver from the Telegraph... two "men" paid to side with the conservative, fossil fuelers. Then quoting a failing Toyota chairman who has company in shambles with a debt to equity ratio of 0.59 versus Tesla's 0.07. Toyota has over $220 billion in debt. Tesla virtually $0. Toyota only makes $1200 per car sold. Tesla's profit per car? $8279. That is why the prices are dropping. The fact that Tesla can drop their new car prices, means the used EV market is dropping as well. EV retain approximately 48% of their value after 5 years, versus ICE cars, which is around the 40% mark. The fact list goes on. You most entitled to owning a diesel soccer mum pusher. Enjoy standing at the bowser at $1.88 a litre and being left at the light by a stock standard BYD.

    • @lesgrosshans2266
      @lesgrosshans2266 Před 3 měsíci

      There is no journalistic integrity in the USA.

    • @kramer26
      @kramer26 Před 3 měsíci +3

      I believe manufacturers come to Harry precisely for his unbiased, real-world and zero bullshit reviews and feedback on their products...

    • @jameslove888
      @jameslove888 Před 3 měsíci +2

      You’re forgetting Harry’s role as a consultant for JLR, I am sure that has no bearing on what he is plugging here. Pardon the pun.

    • @deanfielding4411
      @deanfielding4411 Před 3 měsíci

      @@kramer26You can’t say he was unbiased. I can’t help feeling like he’s been quite negative about EVs here. Why did he cherry pick the huge anomaly of the 2011 nissan leaf that had know battery issues to highlight degradation?

  • @adamzapple67
    @adamzapple67 Před 3 měsíci +228

    I'm in my late 50s and I've just bought myself a little Peugeot 107 (which is effectively a Toyota Aygo.) I was just sick of being fleeced by the government on road tax, paying through the nostrils for fuel and watching cars sit in the office car park depreciating. As 95% of my driving is around town a petrol city car makes sense and the best thing is it's an absolute hoot to drive. 68bhp is enough in a tiny car on city roads. I've had all sorts of vehicles from rip-snorting motorbikes to flaying carpet luxury cars but this little Peugeot is an absolute gem. It feels like a spiritual successor to the original Mini. It's basic motoring and that suits me fine..

    • @dennis3779
      @dennis3779 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Have you seen the bill for replacing a worn wiper motor on those cars 🤔

    • @dennis3779
      @dennis3779 Před 3 měsíci +2

      You use all of your 68 hp so you are continually throttling it to top revs without even having some payload or mountains well that is efficient and especially fun 👍

    • @GT-pl1wx
      @GT-pl1wx Před 3 měsíci +4

      So true! I borrowed a Citroen C1 (same car) from my brother for about two weeks. It always made me smile. Fun to drive, easy to park and cheap to be fueled!

    • @robertkubrick3738
      @robertkubrick3738 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I suspect this is the same car as a Toyota Wigo, which is a rebadged Daihatsu.

    • @wizzyno1566
      @wizzyno1566 Před 3 měsíci +4

      ​@robertkbrick3738
      The Aygo/C1/107 was a new design all built on the same line in Czechoslovakia, shared costs between the two manufacturers (Citroen and Peugeot really being 1 manufacturer). Daihatsu had nothing to do with it.

  • @markmonroe7330
    @markmonroe7330 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Excellent presentation. Thank you.

  • @BarryWatkin-td2ou
    @BarryWatkin-td2ou Před 17 dny +1

    Here in NZ the sellers of e-cars are expected to provide a test report on battery condition - a basic requirement really, in view of the cost of replacement. Depreciation is in the news here as well.

  • @DrRogB
    @DrRogB Před 3 měsíci +106

    Bjorn is terrific. I am glad you have found him.

  • @rafa5d
    @rafa5d Před 3 měsíci +156

    The man is a genius - proper car journalism - informative and gives you a real world insight into what is what!

    • @kevinashurst634
      @kevinashurst634 Před 3 měsíci

      sorry no, it was poor, About as good as Mr Beans article in teh Guardian.

    • @S-Ltd1000
      @S-Ltd1000 Před 3 měsíci

      Geoff buys cars CZcams has been covering this subject for the last couple of years.

    • @kevinashurst634
      @kevinashurst634 Před 3 měsíci

      @@S-Ltd1000 yes he has. To be fair he does great click bait, but sadly short on facts, like his stupid oppo macmaster. They are youtube prostitutes.

  • @bitzanu1
    @bitzanu1 Před měsícem +1

    Excellent and straight to the point, sir. Keep on the good work!

  • @stormytempest6521
    @stormytempest6521 Před 2 měsíci

    Superb Video , explained everything so clearly and to the point, well done.👍

  • @ianstoys13mgs
    @ianstoys13mgs Před 3 měsíci +101

    Probably the best video ive seen anyone produce so far explaining how it is and with the right suggestions to move forward. 10/10 Mr Metcalfe

  • @brogenville
    @brogenville Před 3 měsíci +171

    Mind boggling levels of sensible and logical thinking from Harry.

    • @mrmartin2079
      @mrmartin2079 Před 3 měsíci +4

      There always is ,thankfully

    • @StuartPlumbley
      @StuartPlumbley Před 3 měsíci +2

      What's mind boggling is the people making the decisions about what we will be allowed to drive in the future don't seem to have the same levels of sensible

    • @eugenux
      @eugenux Před 3 měsíci +6

      actually nothing is sensible. It is clear that none of you live in a big city; if you did, the noxes and diesel fumes would make you want to have the power to remove all diesels from existence. Trust me on this one. (from a diesel owner in the mid 2000s)
      edit. imo, diesels should be banned from getting into cities or alternatively, their owners charged hard for taking their cars within city limits. If you live in a quiet town or village, in the country-side, I understand why you cannot relate to this situation but, trust me when I'm saying it.. I am sick and tired to breath diesel fumes just from going on a walk in the neighborhood. We, those who live in the cities, have the right to breath clean air as well.

    • @brogenville
      @brogenville Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@eugenux that’s fine, but the reality is that not everyone does live in a city. And even the people that do are still entirely dependant on countless diesel vehicles serving their needs. Needs that are not close to being met by BEV vehicles.
      Speak to people in the Scottish highlands about how well electric cars work for them…

    • @v12-s65
      @v12-s65 Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@eugenux what fricking diesel fumes if it's a euro 6d car? Come on stop the bullshitting. I got a diesel for long distances not for a damned city

  • @Brawhammer
    @Brawhammer Před měsícem

    Incredibly well put together, glad I've seen this video now before going down the EV Route. The details on the range is staggering.

  • @domenicozagari2443
    @domenicozagari2443 Před měsícem +5

    I am glad your garage hasn't gone up in fire.

  • @venge211
    @venge211 Před 3 měsíci +74

    This video is an oasis of calm amidst the current insanity. Thank you!

  • @bluetitan20
    @bluetitan20 Před 3 měsíci +113

    Watching Harry throughout this video, was like walking into a classroom and
    sitting there as a very smart professor, gives you a lesson in a subject and you suddenly
    just get it!!
    Many people could have waffled on for hours but Harry, you managed to get so much details and
    information into a relatively short 28 minutes.
    The current car market place has so many similar traits, as when back in 2006/7, manufacturers were
    seemingly only pushing diesel as the solution to reduce Co2 emissions.
    We all know how that turned out, sticking diesel engines into cars that should never have had them and selling
    them to people who should never have bough them (like city runabouts, only doing short, stop-start trips).
    It very much feels like that again, only this time manufacturers have put literally everything into EV, with no
    alternative or backup plan.
    Absolutely brilliant job there Harry.

    • @EP-bb1rm
      @EP-bb1rm Před 3 měsíci

      Surely the alternative to diesel was petrol, hybrids and diesels... Or did they appear from nowhere?

    • @arnoldmiga5689
      @arnoldmiga5689 Před 3 měsíci

      the reason was the road tax
      @@EP-bb1rm

  • @adriancurtin6012
    @adriancurtin6012 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Go Harry go .You are really good highlighting the v.many faults / difficulties attached to owning an electric car.

  • @wils315
    @wils315 Před 11 dny +1

    I really appreciate this well thought out perspective on electric vehicle use. I have been following electric vehicles for a long time and I find it useful seeing the perspective from someone who can afford to own an electric car and have other "toys" for when they need them. If it isn't working for someone who can afford it how are those of us who can't afford that luxury meant to manage when it is forced upon us. Electric vehicles have their place, but as a primary vehicle it just isn't there quite yet.

  • @theboyneeds
    @theboyneeds Před 3 měsíci +65

    You're a flippin' legend Harry! Thanks for summing it up so well.

  • @adrianhickson2772
    @adrianhickson2772 Před 3 měsíci +99

    What an absolutely brilliant informative and common sense video. Well done Harry for such an objective discussion - Hat's off to you Sir 👏 👍

    • @jimmybob3756
      @jimmybob3756 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Do remember that Harry also promoted full EV cars but now that the truth is out there his tune has changed.

  • @leedsleedsleeds1747
    @leedsleedsleeds1747 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thanks for making this video and really educational

  • @paulyates1415
    @paulyates1415 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Many thanks. i understand your views. Still running my 12 reg mondeo diesel.

  • @stephengirling7859
    @stephengirling7859 Před 3 měsíci +91

    It's almost as if they don't want us 'peasants' driving cars anymore. But i'm sure you'll be fine Harry.

    • @shadowx2k2007
      @shadowx2k2007 Před 3 měsíci +17

      Actually, if you live in London then you will know that "they" don't!

    • @mariemccann5895
      @mariemccann5895 Před 3 měsíci

      @@shadowx2k2007 Eh?

    • @mrfixit2788
      @mrfixit2788 Před 3 měsíci +4

      WEF 15 minute living zones

  • @chrisbartrum3201
    @chrisbartrum3201 Před 3 měsíci +107

    Coming down from a 2.0l diesel Subaru Forester which could achieve 55mpg on a motorway run (loved that car) which could climb a snowy single track in the snow, I moved down to a Mazda CX3 1.5 diesel which is cramped but does never less than 65mpg and 75 mpg with a soft foot and has a mere £30 road tax. A no brainer when you're just an average pensioner and have to travel at least 10 miles to the nearest supermarket. I suspect this is the real world for most folk. I fill up once every 2 months.

    • @ruedipreiss3654
      @ruedipreiss3654 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Hyundai Kona Electric, 4yo on Autotrader at £13,495, still 1yr manufacturer warranty (4 years on battery and drivetrain), zero road tax, easily goes 250 miles/charge - you could do your supermarket run at least 12 times with that.
      £60 worth of charging = 2550 miles (incl. 15% charging loss), how far do you get with £60 worth of diesel in the CX3?
      How often have I changed brake pads and discs over the last 5 years / 110k miles? Never.

    • @wagmiorngmi
      @wagmiorngmi Před 3 měsíci

      Your 75mpg is great, but the car will have disintegrated on your driveway after a couple of years as they don't put any anti-corrosion treatment on them. The days of well built Mazdas are but a distant memory.

    • @russellaycock3703
      @russellaycock3703 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I wish we could get the Forester diesel (and Toyota diesel pick up trucks) in the U.S.
      55 mpg is extraordinary, not to mention 75!

    • @loungelizard836
      @loungelizard836 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Americans would never buy those little cars, diesel or not. We have a 20 year old Prius that still gets 45 mpg at 65 mph and around 40 in city. But everyone around us has huge trucks and large SUVs because fuel is cheap.

    • @loungelizard836
      @loungelizard836 Před 3 měsíci

      If you are using Imperial gallons, then your Subaru would still be getting a respectable 45mpg (US gallon = 3.8 L), which is rather surprising even for a small SUV, but moreso because those are 4wd!

  • @IsraelUsman1
    @IsraelUsman1 Před 2 měsíci

    Very rich, informative, verifiable and real-world analysis. Thank you

  • @Grasshopper.80
    @Grasshopper.80 Před měsícem +7

    Patrick Boyle sent me.

  • @davidhalloway3028
    @davidhalloway3028 Před 3 měsíci +83

    Harry’s point 3, a reality check. A car is a device for moving people and things from A to B. It should be comfortable, efficient and safe for those inside and outside. The motor industry, consumer mentality and the financial services have got us here. We only have to stop buying for a few years. No one “needs” a new car after 3 years, we could think about buying cars that could be serviced and repaired at reasonable prices. When the factories get constipated maybe they’ll change their diet.

    • @Leonardo555ZZZ
      @Leonardo555ZZZ Před 3 měsíci +2

      The customer is always right ,,,needs to be remembered.

    • @jameslove888
      @jameslove888 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@Leonardo555ZZZsaid by someone who doesn’t deal with customers. They’re quite often wrong.

    • @brettsta72
      @brettsta72 Před 3 měsíci +2

      EVs last significantly longer than ICE and require less maintenance.

    • @Leonardo555ZZZ
      @Leonardo555ZZZ Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@jameslove888 I dealt with customers for 17 years ,,,but you misunderstand ,,if customers stop buying a product , the makers are forced to change or else they will go out of business.
      In the end , the customers as a group , are always right and will be the ultimate decider of which products succeed and which fail.

    • @Leonardo555ZZZ
      @Leonardo555ZZZ Před 3 měsíci +8

      @@brettsta72 That remains to be seen ,,,battery degradation is real and battery replacement is a significant cost.

  • @richardrobinson4086
    @richardrobinson4086 Před 3 měsíci +54

    This is by far the best video I have seen explaining how the car market is heading...thank you Harry.

  • @richardgeorge8612
    @richardgeorge8612 Před 2 měsíci

    such a great presentation thank you Harry

  • @olbtube
    @olbtube Před 2 měsíci +2

    Fair points, One argument I seldom hear is the emissions in highly populated areas. I live in the Netherlands, close to a high traffic highway, and the amount of air pollution coming from ICE cars is very real (and diminishes somewhat on weekends for example). Electric cars can have a beneficial impact on health in those areas (as do banning oldish diesels...).

  • @HansSprungfeld716
    @HansSprungfeld716 Před 3 měsíci +56

    Bjorn is a legend! 💯

    • @brembodream
      @brembodream Před 2 měsíci +1

      Agree🤩 Bjørn Nyland is the reason we bought our S85D in 2015. Greetings from Oslo Norway😊

  • @lahrichbx
    @lahrichbx Před 3 měsíci +77

    Following Bjorn for years.. He has come longs way with knowledge of electrical cars. Very good videos .I think electrical car companies see his reviews.!

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 Před 3 měsíci +9

      Bjorn is the benchmark as far as I am concerned!

  • @colinosborne3877
    @colinosborne3877 Před 19 dny +1

    Outside chargers are never under cover, often around the back of a carpark and difficult to find in a poorly lit area. Then you arrive in the dark and its raining. So with the water running down your neck you are trying to read the connection instructions. Get it wrong and they just dump you to back to square one. The card reader is often low down and with water on the screen very difficult to use. Even on a good visit, it takes 3 minutes. Its a killer when you find there is no WiFi to join yet another club. Add to that when you get there, you find another car is pulling all the power, and not enough for you.
    We have had our Kia Soul 30KW for 3 years and love it. Being retired we rarely go on long journeys, but we plan where we will stop, coffee, shopping etc, no problem. We are still getting 135 forecast miles in the summer, but that drops to 95 when its really cold. We always charge at home over-night with the granny charger, no problem.

  • @Tonaka656
    @Tonaka656 Před 3 měsíci +57

    There's a massive mis-match between what they are producing and what people want. Real working people haven't got wheelbarrows of cash they can afford to lose in massive depreciation, let alone the cost of a new vehicle these days.

    • @barry5138
      @barry5138 Před 3 měsíci +17

      That's the hook, they don't want normal people to have private transport.

  • @benhooper1956
    @benhooper1956 Před 3 měsíci +129

    Best video I have seen all year. Proper journalism, proper reasoning, this is what we need. I really hope someone is listening because this needs to be heard

    • @johnsmith1474
      @johnsmith1474 Před 3 měsíci +7

      Any ordinary person knows all this, which is why they stay with gas.

    • @hacob2004
      @hacob2004 Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@johnsmith1474 Tons of people have no idea about things like battery degradation or the disaster that is the public charging network etc. They just hear EVs are the future and then buy one and end up finding that it's not as great as they were told and either have to stick it out or take or huge hit on the depreciation and switch back to ICE. This is good advice

    • @Nick.Colemann
      @Nick.Colemann Před 3 měsíci +3

      Agree, Some of Harry's best work. Great logic

    • @fatfreddyscoat7564
      @fatfreddyscoat7564 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Nobody in power cares.

    • @richardcarter1000
      @richardcarter1000 Před 3 měsíci

      We have an opportunity to vote out anyone in power this year who wants to keep up the Net Zero insanity and war on the motorist​@@fatfreddyscoat7564

  • @Indiskret1
    @Indiskret1 Před 2 měsíci

    Very sensible and thorough video. Thank you!

  • @seanclark8903
    @seanclark8903 Před měsícem +2

    Outstanding video, Harry. Really thorough consideration of many factors, all backed up by science/data -> extremely compelling. Thanks for steering me away from EVs - you have potentially saved me a lot of money and grief!

  • @PWL104
    @PWL104 Před 3 měsíci +155

    Finally, a mature, balanced assessment and a genuine reality check. Thanks Harry

  • @daggidding4478
    @daggidding4478 Před 3 měsíci +72

    Harry is so knowledgeable and is always able to explain it so well. Thank you, Harry 👍👍👍

  • @turbonut9131
    @turbonut9131 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The carbon footprint of an EVs' manufacturing alone Means you'd need to keep the car for 10yrs and only ever use renewable energy to charge them. BUT, wind turbines have a large carbon footprint during manufacturing, transporting them to site and regular maintenance such as off-shore facilities where you need fleets of ships (which burn diesel). So it's either Nuclear or solar......I agree with car_pal.

  • @ovidium8020
    @ovidium8020 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Battery efficiency drops because batteries need to be balance charged every few fast charges...Balance charging take considerably more time as each element of the battery is charged to match the others...I never heard any EV owner every balance charging their batteries and dealers seem to have no idea about it

  • @boudivv
    @boudivv Před 3 měsíci +129

    Bjorn Nyland is indeed doing a great job in comparing EV's.

    • @giuistefanjr72
      @giuistefanjr72 Před 3 měsíci +8

      And most of them rather disappoint in terms of range and charging capacity,even with big battery

    • @amundalfredsen3479
      @amundalfredsen3479 Před 3 měsíci +36

      @@giuistefanjr72I disagree. We rarely use fast chargers and drive 20k+ km per year. EVs have more than enough range for most people. Bjørn has proven this over and over again with the 1000km challanges.

    • @ClarenceDold
      @ClarenceDold Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@amundalfredsen3479 We have driven our Chevrolet Bolt EUV comfortably for trips of 1200 miles. We stop to eat and charge, sleep and charge, and once a day, waste time for a charge.
      Most of the time, it is charging at home, and traveling anywhere in our metropolitan area of 7 million people.

    • @robertkubrick3738
      @robertkubrick3738 Před 3 měsíci

      @@amundalfredsen3479 How much are you towing? Many people like to tow a caravan.

    • @StevieRayVoon
      @StevieRayVoon Před 3 měsíci

      in UK it seems that there are 550 000 caravans. Its like 1% of population?@@robertkubrick3738

  • @markcary8165
    @markcary8165 Před 3 měsíci +146

    Just brilliantly presented facts that seem to not be understood by the media at large.
    Every politician should be made to watch this video.

    • @JonathanCheeseman
      @JonathanCheeseman Před 3 měsíci

      It doesn't matter how brilliantly presented the facts are, they will not persuade politicians to become apostates from the new religion of net zero.

    • @Davidl-ux5ke
      @Davidl-ux5ke Před 3 měsíci

      harry and clarkson should be in charge

    • @Denise-vn8wz
      @Denise-vn8wz Před 3 měsíci +2

      UK Politicians don't seem to like EVs themselves, so why should the VOTERS?

    • @fredfred2363
      @fredfred2363 Před 3 měsíci

      Sadly our politicians are very much misguided and misinformed these days. The lobby groups with the most convincing stories (even if completely untrue) are being believed.
      I don't know how we can fix that.
      And educated politicians don't make good media personalities.
      It's almost like, if you can speak well and are entertaining but know nothing, you'll do as our leader. SMH.

  • @remitremblay2091
    @remitremblay2091 Před 2 měsíci

    This is so very interesting! Thank you for taking the time to put it up in numbers, so that WE, the average users of cars, understand & can compare what we should do when we buy a new car. Up here, in Quebec Canada, electricity is cheap, but its real cost is what WE, as a country, CAN'T do with it...i.e. industry investments, etc. We are owners of a gas car, and we are looking at an EV, not to replace but to complement. We have needs (camping, vacationing, traveling, etc) and are NOT YET willing to let go of the flexibility of owning a gas car...but we understand we need to be better consumer!

  • @83leeb
    @83leeb Před 27 dny +1

    Bjorn does have some great videos. Very informative

  • @exsoulagent
    @exsoulagent Před 3 měsíci +119

    Finally someone who has the balls to call out why EV’s aren’t the best option no matter what Billy Bullshit Government officials come out with. Keep up the great work

    • @DAVIDE-bk8by
      @DAVIDE-bk8by Před 3 měsíci +3

      Plenty of the other channels doing the same for ages...'Geoff Buys Cars' for example

    • @geebee6737
      @geebee6737 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@DAVIDE-bk8by Geoff Buys Cars just jumped on the MacMaster bandwagon.....those that are savvy already knew this EV dream was exactly that , a dream 🤣

    • @danharold3087
      @danharold3087 Před 3 měsíci

      He said they are making the wrong cars. Because we can build powerful EVs does not mean that is the only sort we should be making. I agree. Love or Hate Tesla they are still leading the pack in most aspects of EVs.

    • @ianthompson2516
      @ianthompson2516 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Charge at home £5.77 for 250 miles what is not to like plus de-seisel particulates and asthma and climate change ffs

    • @Nordjyden9000
      @Nordjyden9000 Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@ianthompson2516 The price of energy is set by political reasons. Diesel particles is not a problem anymore. Climate change is a natural thing, and there is no climate-crisis. Some diesels, Mercedes is one of them, emit pure breathable air . A Mercedes EV in Germany, is powered by electricity made by burning lignite, the most polluting fuel known, except for burning used tires.

  • @AlejandroPedroso
    @AlejandroPedroso Před 3 měsíci +60

    Finely put! I agree that this is one of your best videos! Masterclass in distorted market dynamics, you hit every single point: Customer needs vs absurd regulation, lack of proper information and facts, skewed stats, policy pushing and even a product being plain ugly because of design by committee, brilliant! Thank you!

  • @bikenavbm1229
    @bikenavbm1229 Před 2 měsíci

    always worthy of a little listening time. All that technology shown and available on the dashboard and yet they hide the important stuff, great practical comments thanks.

  • @Frank-ed7hj
    @Frank-ed7hj Před 2 měsíci

    Very good breakdown. Thank you for this!

  • @duncanstokes2509
    @duncanstokes2509 Před 3 měsíci +81

    Nicely delivered - no emotion, factual and without an agenda. St Harry of Metcalfe thank you.

  • @kevinheath7588
    @kevinheath7588 Před 3 měsíci +71

    I have a Hyundai i-10. Bought it second hand with 50,000 miles on it. It does over 50mpg, £20 annual tax and is very cheap on maintenance. I only use it for popping about, about 3000 miles a year. Bloke at the garage told me as long as it's looked after should get 20 years of hassle free motoring from it, for virtually nothing. Cost me £3500 over two years ago, and I have not had a single problem with it. Starts first time and runs lovely. I don't get people who spend a fortune on cars.

    • @robertkubrick3738
      @robertkubrick3738 Před 3 měsíci +2

      30 years ago Hyundai had some issues, a coworker had one and it was crap. Last year I bought 3 Hyundai Accent diesels for family members and I expect all of them to get 60mpg for at least 10 years use. Things have changed. Resale on your i-10 is very good here, they are liked.

    • @kevinheath7588
      @kevinheath7588 Před 3 měsíci +8

      @@robertkubrick3738 That's brilliant news...cheers :-)....You know I been kinda working it out...and I reckon if I buy another petrol car just before they stop selling them in 2035 and I can get say 15-20 years out of it...I will never need to go electric.

    • @robertkubrick3738
      @robertkubrick3738 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@kevinheath7588 Might get a couple late model and gently used for myself. Cheers

    • @sa_supercarz8499
      @sa_supercarz8499 Před 3 měsíci +4

      I have the Grand i10 and currently on 71 000 km have zero issues bought it Demo from the Dealer very affordable to run don’t see me selling it anytime soon

    • @kevinheath7588
      @kevinheath7588 Před 3 měsíci

      @@sa_supercarz8499 I just checked one of those Grand models out on Google, gets a really decent review and looks a fair bit better looks wise than my slightly older i-10 model, only thing is I can't find any here in the UK auto trader magazine, which is a shame.

  • @chrishaidinyak4621
    @chrishaidinyak4621 Před měsícem +1

    Hats off to this gentleman's effort; I agree with his sentiment. I have three diesels: 2002 Excursion, 2013 VW Golf and 2015 VW Passat and I love all of them, For me, it is infuriating that the price of diesel is artificially held high here in NY even though the distillation process for diesel is cheaper than petrol. Here in upstate NY it regularly gets into the single digits over night and I would hate to think how an electric vehicle would fare if left outside for the winter and charged outside would be like. I don't know other people's experiences with electric and whether keeping them garaged overnight makes a difference in range but many people either don't have that luxury or desire to keep their vehicles inside overnight. I think industry needs to solve the vacation driving charging problem (ie fast replaceable battery packs) and the basic range problem across temperature extremes. Thanks for the great video.

  • @stuartcourtley6537
    @stuartcourtley6537 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Harry ... God Bless you sir. That was an excellent review.
    I was born and educated in the UK. I am a professional mechanical engineer - trained by Hawker Siddeley. I now live in Australia.
    I am a car enthusiast. I have a Jaguar F type, a Lotus Emira and an Audi TT for my wife.
    You hit the "nail on the head" !!
    I truly believe we have got it all wrong. The politicians and engineers have not thought this through at all.
    Well done Harry.
    Kindest regards, Stuart Courtley.

  • @edwarddelderfield
    @edwarddelderfield Před 3 měsíci +104

    How can Harry not be an advisor to the Government and industry. Outstanding explanation.

    • @eoinoconnell185
      @eoinoconnell185 Před 3 měsíci +28

      Government don't want advisors to tell them the truth. They want advisors to tell them what they want to hear to justify policy decisions.

    • @johnbeckett2624
      @johnbeckett2624 Před 3 měsíci +14

      Probably because Harry says things that most Politicians and Government don't want to hear.

    • @electricfelix
      @electricfelix Před 3 měsíci +3

      because he is factually incorect #alwaysbecharging

    • @davepax982
      @davepax982 Před 3 měsíci +3

      *incorrect 😅​@@electricfelix

    • @pachy444
      @pachy444 Před 3 měsíci +4

      It's not an explanation, all he did was try to justify why he's getting a Diesel RR sport 😂

  • @jean-jacqueskaselorganreco6879
    @jean-jacqueskaselorganreco6879 Před 3 měsíci +63

    Absolutely sensationally spot on video that EVERY car owner/buyer should watch.The analyzes are to perfection.Many thanks Harry for this amazing contribution to the subject!Needs to be spreed on socials

  • @SuperMacca96
    @SuperMacca96 Před 2 měsíci

    The best automotive journalist out there! Harry you are old enough to be my dad, driven everything on the planet, delivered intelligently 10/10

  • @mariodesmo
    @mariodesmo Před měsícem

    Very well done. An honest assessment finally presented and with data to back it up.

  • @timcreelman3540
    @timcreelman3540 Před 3 měsíci +72

    Great video Harry. The market for EVs is about to burst as you describe the litany of negative issues. Here in Canada, a recent EV driver slightly damaged the bottom of his EV battery in his 2-year old vehicle. The quote for a replacement battery was $60,000, more than the value of the car, so his insurance wrote off the car. Tell me the insane logic of this debacle. Early-adopter technology in anything new goes through these growing pains. Steer clear of EVs for the forseeable future until sanity returns.

    • @BuffaloBill-pt9ns
      @BuffaloBill-pt9ns Před 3 měsíci +3

      Couldn't agree more,.insanity

    • @SNORKYMEDIA
      @SNORKYMEDIA Před 3 měsíci +2

      what EV was it?

    • @timcreelman3540
      @timcreelman3540 Před 3 měsíci

      I believe it was a Hyundai.@@SNORKYMEDIA

    • @viveksoty
      @viveksoty Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@SNORKYMEDIAit was Hyundai ioniq 5

    • @jeromezone
      @jeromezone Před 3 měsíci

      The problem is - I also saw this story; it was covered on TV news. If TV news is picking it up, it's most likely not a very common occurrence.

  • @fairalbion
    @fairalbion Před 3 měsíci +48

    This one of your very best, Harry. You nailed all the issues.

    • @charlesrossbaronofbiggar1644
      @charlesrossbaronofbiggar1644 Před 3 měsíci

      Absolutely agree with you, madam or sir

    • @charlesrossbaronofbiggar1644
      @charlesrossbaronofbiggar1644 Před 3 měsíci

      Absolutely agree with you, madam or sir

    • @pachy444
      @pachy444 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Most of those issues he nailed were big luxury car buyer issues though.

    • @pincermovement72
      @pincermovement72 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Except saying we wanted to go on this co2 journey, I think it’s all crap.

    • @ricknowhere
      @ricknowhere Před 3 měsíci

      It would be even better if Harry addressed the bigger issue of the fact that Co2 is a trace gas with human contribution being insignificant.

  • @UKAviationMovies
    @UKAviationMovies Před 2 měsíci

    Absolutely brilliant take on the current state of the EV market. I've absolutely no plans to change to electric anytime soon, and after watching this great video I'm glad I haven't taken the plunge.

  • @devanman7920
    @devanman7920 Před 2 měsíci +78

    I'm glad the BS around electric cars is finally coming out. The range is ridiculous, a manufacturer tells you 300 miles and you'll be lucky to get 150-200 out of it and its a complete money pit.

    • @shockwave1xD
      @shockwave1xD Před měsícem +3

      So I'm sure your gas car has always been getting EXACTLY the manufacturer suggested consumption in EVERY possible condition.
      It's called a test cycle. Every car goes through the same. Gas cars, EVs, etc. My last car was rated at 4.3l/100km. Reality was close to 6l. Almost 50% more.

    • @VUO4E
      @VUO4E Před měsícem +3

      Your reaction is BS as well. Name 1 petrol car that has achieved the official mpg figures...

    • @driller_e8098
      @driller_e8098 Před měsícem +6

      Tells you 300 miles, get 200 miles. But to not completely clap out the battery within a a few years, don’t drop below 20% charge and don’t charge above 80%. So you operate on 60%. So your real mileage is actually 120.
      Classic

    • @shockwave1xD
      @shockwave1xD Před měsícem +2

      @@driller_e8098 It is absolutely not a problem to use the full battery when you need it. Pretty much doesn't influence the lifetime in any way.

    • @Peskarik
      @Peskarik Před měsícem

      won't change anything, the "elites" want to remove private mobility completely

  • @robc8892
    @robc8892 Před 3 měsíci +96

    Motoring journalism at it's finest 👍

    • @mariemccann5895
      @mariemccann5895 Před 3 měsíci +3

      If you like yesterday's thinking.

    • @lukestocks4370
      @lukestocks4370 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​​@@mariemccann5895 u can't be serious? have a little Joke with us I'm sure...😊

  • @yetidh9
    @yetidh9 Před 3 měsíci +45

    In Sweden there are used car companies who specialise in electric cars. They test the battery and you get a certificate detailing the condition, degradation, etc.

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft Před 3 měsíci +6

      That is not going to convince people.

    • @robinwatts7079
      @robinwatts7079 Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@Art-is-craftWhy not?

    • @maxtorque2277
      @maxtorque2277 Před 3 měsíci +8

      @@Art-is-craft er, you can get your ICE "Inspected" by experts as well, and that convinces people. WHen i bought my M3 the owner had had a "condition inspection" report pepared by the AA (a UK motoring organsiation) and that seemed to be worth something?
      So why wouldn't a BEV that has been inspected be similarly worthwhile??

    • @ad_fletch
      @ad_fletch Před 3 měsíci +1

      Dogmatism

    • @asatoraegames4533
      @asatoraegames4533 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Any EV buyer should demand this as part of the sale.

  • @stephenswales8940
    @stephenswales8940 Před 22 dny +2

    What's it like? Finally seeing the light?

  • @YoutubeDepressesMe
    @YoutubeDepressesMe Před 2 měsíci +8

    Just traded in my EV after a year and a half. It took a bit of convincing (and losing cash) from a BMW main dealer to accept it.
    I had ALL of the issues discussed here.
    I'm now back in a diesel.

    • @davidellis279
      @davidellis279 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Sensible man,this EV caper is just a con with there promises of cheaper running costs,I have a BMW diesel X3 which does 40+ mpg. There’s no way on this planet I will go electric whilst it’s cheaper to run diesel and have a range of over 600 miles in the tank,too much hassle going electric and nothing saved if you can’t charge at home, Harry has got this bang on,short journeys and around town with a small electric is ideal but for any real mileage trips there a waste of time and money.

    • @patrickcody7307
      @patrickcody7307 Před 24 dny

      Great to hear the truth about EVs. I am driving a 4 series BMW returning an average of 54mpg. A friend of mine spent almost 100k on a BMW EV and regrets it everyday and wishes he spent half that amount on the same car as me.

  • @Winston.S.1984
    @Winston.S.1984 Před 3 měsíci +102

    Harry, you're a Legend 👏This video needs to go viral!

    • @charlesrossbaronofbiggar1644
      @charlesrossbaronofbiggar1644 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Absolutely!

    • @pachy444
      @pachy444 Před 3 měsíci +1

      It's hardly breaking news that people want to keep driving big SUV Diesels..... That's why the government have had to legislate

    • @meofnz2320
      @meofnz2320 Před 3 měsíci

      Why does it need to go viral? Because you have an irrational persecution complex?

    • @EP-bb1rm
      @EP-bb1rm Před 3 měsíci

      If it goes viral then he'll be fzct checked and realise half the stuff is factually incorrect.

  • @gerardbooth40
    @gerardbooth40 Před 3 měsíci +34

    Terrific, factual content. Every motorist should watch this and start to educate themselves. Harry for Transport Minister!

  • @simoncossettini9680
    @simoncossettini9680 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thanks for a good video explanation of what is happening on the market in the UK - I am sure the experience is similar in many other countries. Here in France the public/goverment is in a EV bubble - for years I have discussed electric cars with friends and colleagues and why these cars are not ecologic - but the ones that bought them don't do any research beyond the performance and cost. I even had one colleague who traded in an audi q4 diesel in working order to get a new audi q4 hybrid knowing that the performance was worse so he could get a new car and the government eco subsidy - he even said that now any new diesels are taxed at higher rate on purchase to make them even more expensive than electric cars so he got the hybrid because he was not even confident to buy the full ev version and it was less hassle and tax to buy a hybrid.
    Also buyers are happy to get on a monthly EV leasing plan as they did with any normal car and at the end of 36 months hand back the car to the dealer and move onto the next car. The range is not really a problem as far as I understand because they treat it like a second runaround car for small trips -but not many give up their other combustion engine car for big trips.
    The government should instead of handing out tons of cash to new EV car buyers it should be subsidizing owners of old cars to keep them on the road in good condition - like an "ecological maintenance bonus" - to keep older cars maintained and have them pollute less. Instead what I am finding is that many garages are refusing to even work on older cars beyond any standard service - the moment things get tricky like high pressure diesel pump etc the owner is forced to work with the dealer or if their lucky a diesel specialist to keep their car on the road, in fact I think there is a whole industry that used to repair older cars is slowly disappearing - this paired with the complexity of onboard systems that are only serviceable by dealers has just about killed all technical repair work. For the same reason EVs become almost worthless when they have problems because often the dealers can't even fix them because they are not equipped to handle EV repairs and independent EV repair mechanics can't work on them or don't even exist.

  • @howlinmadmurdock9553
    @howlinmadmurdock9553 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I think the main reason that EV prices drop off a cliff is purely down to the cost of replacing the battery at the manufacturer. Many cheap second hand EVs most likely have batteries fitted that are near the end of their life so will need replacing for another five year stretch.
    For many families/people this beyond their financial means.
    This means that the second EVs that have batteries that are end of life in them are basically "throw away items" or an "expensive door stop"
    Great informative video 👏😁

  • @stevegoodier1241
    @stevegoodier1241 Před 3 měsíci +38

    Harry & team..
    This vlog must be the most accurate and honest reasoning video I have ever seen, I can't argue with any of the facts you put forward... If only more people would just realise the actual numbers involved.
    Nice one, Regards Steve

  • @darrylcoombes8334
    @darrylcoombes8334 Před 3 měsíci +45

    One of your best videos. Very informative and so much common sense discussed. Thank you Harry.

  • @keegan773
    @keegan773 Před měsícem +1

    You are not alone. A friend of mine, who ran a garage workshop before retirement, bought an EV.
    It was such a farce to use, especially on longer journeys, he’s going back to ICE and has noticed many others doing the same.

  • @majedm
    @majedm Před 2 měsíci +2

    Spot on your review. Let's hope those legislators listen and understand it

  • @arjanpetersen
    @arjanpetersen Před 3 měsíci +73

    new cars are just insanely expensive. Actually no one can actually buy one.

    • @ianjames3078
      @ianjames3078 Před 3 měsíci +10

      I’m public sector worker, average wage, private buyer not salary sacrifice, no car allowance…….bought new Tesla in August. Love it..been driving EVs since 2012.

    • @steadfastandyx4947
      @steadfastandyx4947 Před 3 měsíci +2

      yes. its another section of the global ponzi scheme. if i had £20,000 i would copy harry.

    • @thunderbug8640
      @thunderbug8640 Před 3 měsíci +18

      @@ianjames3078 Id really needs to see your figures to back that up because I’m on decidedly above avg earning in the 90th percentile or so and even I have found EVs to be overpriced and just generally inconvenient compared to my ICE machines.

    • @G-ra-ha-m
      @G-ra-ha-m Před 3 měsíci +3

      The EU wants to stop us repairing older cars. Also to buy an expensive car requires many trips to work, so lots of pollution.
      They are not good for the environment either - nothing expensive is.

    • @SimonNoina
      @SimonNoina Před 3 měsíci +3

      Yup - as we all know, it's increasingly, if not now wholly for many, judging the purchase just by how much it is per month rather than capital ticket cost has allowed manufacturers to stealthily and quietly raise the capital cost of cars up, up and up. Broadly same as happened with property purchase... many moons ago now