THE ULTIMATE COFFEE CAPSULE MACHINE?: A Review of the Drink Morning Capsule Machine
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
- Here, I take an exhaustive look at the new Drink Morning capsule machine. I pull multiple shots with it throughout. I did quite a lot of background work on this machine prior to filming, including opening pods to cup the coffees so I know what I'm looking for flavor wise to taking multiple refractions of the brews to measure consistency and efficiency. Hope you enjoy!
*should be noted I did shake the capsules off camera prior to inserting. I don't like I how I look shaking vigorously little pods while filming in 1080p, so they were all "pre shook." I will say, they suggest purging between shots, and I didn't do this in filming. I did in testing and noticed little to no difference shot to shot as regards output flow and time.
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Time Cues:
0:00- Introduction to Drink Morning
3:38- Methodology
7:02- Pulling/Tasting First Shot (Circle Coffee)
11:47- April vs Colonna Taste Test
24:38- Roaster Recommendation
26:48- Beatbox Break
28:34- Making and Tasting a Milky
31:29- Conclusion
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Sure... I just feel like you standing is better. You just have this energy coming out of you 😉
I think you nailed the market, coffee geeks whose parents only drink pods. We won't buy it for ourselves but will gift it to family members so when we visit we got something to play with and might get some decent coffee out of it and they can continue to be happy with their pods.
I’m halfway through the video and saw this comment, my EXACT thoughts 🤣
Hahaha! Spot on.
Weird….
Great review man! Dig the longer videos.. Happy that cup didn't break with those sick beats! Cheers!
I've never seen any of your videos so imagine my surprise when you spontaneously started beatboxing. Sick beat, great video , now Imma binge watch your whole channel, cheers!
15:17 You spilled it didn't you? 🤣
I was out on this idea for the most part, but when you pointed out the caffeine difference it really peaked my interest. The idea of being able to have 4 coffee drinks for the same amount of caffeine intake is really something I could get behind. I often find myself wanting to pull another shot just because it tastes so good, but stopping myself short of an exploding heart. I could also see this being a great option as coffee inevitably becomes more and more expensive due to changing climates. There is potential for this to be really useful moving forward.
I own a Morning machine and prior to that I used to be one of those 20 grams, 2:1 ratio, espresso drinkers... Didn't even understand who would want to drink a single shot espresso voluntarily?🤣
I must say I am very pleased with what I get in a cup with Morning! It doesn't come close to those thick creamy full-body espressos, but I kinda like that I can have 4-5-6 coffees a day and not overdose with caffeine 😄
Also the fact that I can buy capsules from literally everywhere around the world and it will be as fresh as it could is kinda cool! Recently got the Funky capsules from Doubleshot (Czech Republic) and I was blown away by how rich and flavourful that capsule was! Highly recommend to try it!
If you are someone who wants to drink specialty coffee, but you don't want the hustle and bustle of learning how to prepare it properly, I highly recommend you to try Morning ☕
That beat from the spoon and cup was 100% Love by Strapping Young Lads lmao. Very interesting in depth video! 👍
Thank you! Appreciate you watching and the support
I think you nailed it. The targeted market is specific to the group of coffee lovers that didn wanna spend on exp espresso machine and getting the hassle to put a shot. It’s an over feature devices which I doubt many will actually utilized fully, not forgetting the inconsistency. To make it for a regular shot of using more than 1 pod and accumulating the yield loss, it’s pretty exp and not economical way.
Thank you for the amount of work you put in your videos! Really fun to watch.
I've got a stupid question though, why did you stir the coffee in your Kruve glasses?
Love your coffee cups! :)
Around 10-12 years ago I had a tassimo pod brewer. I’m not sure if you’ve seen these before. That really sparked the beginning of coffee nerding for me. The pods had barcodes on the foil and there was a barcode reader in the head. The barcodes told machine how to prep the brew per suggestions from the coffee brand. There was preinfusion, temperature specific recipe , controlled the yield, it new if it was for espresso, or a crema(longo), or a regular drip/pour over cup from 6-12oz. They had gevalia, nebo, tim hortons, Starbucks and many more. They had shelf milk pods you would use after an espresso pod to make a frothed(not truly) latte or cappuccino. They also had chocolate pods you could use to make a quick mocha, cafe ole’, or a hot chocolate. I used to play around with the barcodes from old pods I had used and cut the barcodes off to hack another pod. There was some dispute, that I can’t remember details, about starbucks suing the manufacturer and it was difficult to find the variety of pods that I use to enjoy. So I began to pour overs and aeropress to recreate the tastes I enjoyed from that machine. Takes a lot longer now but the coffee is an improved, I still believe that tassimo was above and beyond, taste wise, than any pod machine on the market.
I think you nailed it; it is really for your friends who are coffee geeks. I purchased the machine on the recommendation of a friend in the coffee business (whom I highly respect). The machine is okay for what it is. And it is fun to play around with coffee from different suppliers. But my attention span is only about 15 mins:). I, too have found some inconsistencies in the output. I will let my friend play with it when he visits:). If I had to do it again, I might have purchased a real expresso machine. But I found them to be quite expensive.
So would I buy it again, I probably would have looked at other machines on the market. Do I regret purchasing it? No, it is convenient and relatively inexpensive.
Nice review of a Nespresso machine that I was not previously familiar with. Thanks, Lance.
Thank you for watching! Appreciate you as always!
Loved the impromptu beatboxing!
Hahaha thank you!
I love this machine. I desperately want to do real espresso with nice coffee but disability makes it impossible to prep, clean, do everything else involved. I want to play with pressures, temperatures, grind profiles (sadly impossible), and explore properly. This machine has made most of that possible for me. I can press a button and get a drink. I can press another and have it self clean. I've got a huge variety of coffee with wildly different taste profiles to explore. It's perfect for me.
A less niche market would be university students and people my age with a terrible kitchen (very common here in the UK). This can sit on your desk and have minimal work or cleaning done. Just fill the water every so often and clean your cup (probably a week after finishing your coffee). I believe if they poached students they would have a pretty sustained market as they graduate and get so used to the ease they take 10 years to move on to real espresso.
best way to start a friday is with an upload from the coffee guru
Lol thank you so much!
I fit into the market for this machine. I enjoy good coffee at better cafs here in London but honestly I don’t want to go through the hassle and nerdery that home baristas find acceptable. Fine if you want to do that, but…I switched from an expensive espresso machine and grinding at home to Nespresso machines 8 years ago and the coffee I get is mostly good enough as (until the pandemic and lockdowns) I could get a quality coffee hit at Climpson and Sons or similar when needed. I also have an Aeropress for occasional use. I’ll add two points. First more and more boutique roasters are coming out with pod versions of their coffee which implies there is a market for more sophisticated brews than what Nespresso offer but obviously they are being purchased by people who have a Nespresso machine because they want the convenience. Second, and this is a hot take, I noticed that Nespresso have been eliminating the cheaper versions of their original machines and only selling the most expensive versions of the original machines while cranking up the number of cheaper Vertuo machines and giving special offers to those who buy them. Since Nespresso’s patent on original machines has run out obviously they’d like their customers to buy the Vertuo machines on which Nespresso has patent control. So yeah, I’m of the age that some of your commenters refer to as their parents, maybe even grand parents and yeah I have the disposable income to afford this machine (which is less expensive than any original machine Nespresso now sells here in the UK. I nerd out on photography, I nerd out on audio equipment, I can nerd out on computers, but this Morning machine looks about right to me. Carpe Diem. Thanks for the in depth review Lance.
Fantastic! I think you'll enjoy it, undoubtedly.
From what I have learned in my many years of research, Beatboxing makes coffee better. It is a very under-examined study of the coffee science. Once again a great video.
You are correct. Beatboxing covers a multitude of sin haha!
Exciting stuff, probably more suited to ppl that fill their own capsules to use all of that profiling but it's hard to justify the actual hardware without comparing it to existing nespresso machines for what the actual flow/pressure/temperature of a nespresso machine is and whether its doing what it says.
Very difficult since a scace won't work on this. No idea how to test pressure or brew temperature
Liked honesty. Loved anecdote about your Dad. Wonder after this much time since review how this is fairing in market. Seems like the xbloom, a limited market.
I once went to a company that does capsules, I was told Compostable capsules are not good oxygen barriers, once the capsules are out of the box, they degrade slowly and you'll get faster shots, they had to place each capsule in a nitrogen sealed bag to keep it fresher for longer, now this was 2 years ago, I'm not sure if the technology has improved
I'm so glad I discovered your channel
Same! Thanks for swinging thru and giving a watch! Hope you found it helpful
@@LanceHedrick it really is helpful. your videos are really great. I hope you talk about the aeropress soon✌🏻
I will at some point! I definitely want to wait a bit since there have been so many videos lately. Thanks again!
@@LanceHedrick thank you. I'll be definitely enjoying your other videos until you do. hope you have a great day👍🏻
Great video, I think one of your best. If coffee preparation is not your hobby or job this is probably what people want. Imagen you are having a meeting at work and you offer lets say five people coffee. Give them a choice of pods next to the machine they choose there pod based on a description like espresso, lungo or ristreto and away they go, everyone is happy. I use a Delonghi bean to cup at home and at work plus a Barista express at home. (which I haven used for months :-( )
Scrolling through the time stamps... You had me at beatbox break sir.
Lol! Glad something sucked you in lol
Those kruve glasses are nice, but what was the white curved one you used in the beginning?
Enjoyed the video. Very interesting machine, not sure what the niche for it is but I’d love to have a shot at making some drinks on it.
For sure! It is actually quite cool and I think I was too harsh on it in the video. For something this quick and expedient, it actually does a nice job
This machine seems to be solving a problem no one has.
Haha I've been told Nespresso is much more viewed as a luxury item in Europe and perhaps elsewhere. Intriguing, to be sure!
hahaha so true. And indeed nespresso is viewed as a luxury item in some places, such as here in Brazil
So crazy how different parts of the world are in their observation of coffees
The Morning machine is quite underestimated. I use it for reusable pods which I fill. It can make filter coffee with light roast, using lower pressure and bloom. And it can make americano at 3tds (25g shot and dilution), with espresso roast beans. It's issue is consistency, but that can be mended somewhat by always purging the machine seconds before you brew a pod. It's only 4.9g in the refillable pods, so you have to brew 2 or 3 pods to get a good size cup. Not perfect at all, but there are good flavor experiences to be had.
Had my sunbeam coffee machine fail, so after a month or so of pour over coffee, i had purchased a pod machine, about a week of having pod machine coffee i went and purchased a hx machine. Pods a good to get you out of a pinch so to speak but nothing can beat a good espresso for a good machine
Agreed, for sure. Once you have proper espresso, game changer
So they should actually increase their pod size. Wondering what it tastes like if you cut off the shot after 12 grams with a nice time/pressure profile. I once tried that with a regular nespesso machine, but the lack of control gave me an underextracted shot.
Lance, have you used a reusable Nespresso pod with your favorite bean in this machine?
Would love to see a bean to cup version of the morning machine - smart bean to cup machine!!!
the eversys is essentially that, but like $20,000
How is the temperature stability, does the temperature stay close to the set temperature? I measured multiple nespresso compatible machines and all of them can not give stable water temperature .
0:34 I’m not gonna lie did move my head on that beats ! Ahahah
Hahaha! Very nice! Thanks for watching
I think the salient question is how much better the shots from this are as compared to a bog standard 'black' Nespresso pod pulled through e.g. a Nespresso Citiz machine (which isn't all that much cheaper than the Morning). If the answer is "meaningfully better" than I think the 'convenience crowd' would be interested.
I’ve been wanting to upgrade and replace my old 10-year-old Nespresso CitiZ coffee machine thats now leaking water and needs a service but decided on a new machine then stumbled upon “The Morning” coffee machine, in the first week its developed a fault, I must say morning Customer Services very apologetic and order me a new machine which should be through any time now, anyway, I have found that this machine does brew about a cup of coffee at the same compatible Nespresso pods I’ve been using and found some of the artisan compatible pots I bought with the machine are excellent, will be experimenting and find that perfect capsule, never thought I’d ever be interested, found out more about home coffee brewing through your videos then ever before. just got to master how to Nanofoam milk which I’m finding somewhat difficult
Ooooh, StAli is a local for me. They're not a terrible roastery, but I more like them because their cafe has ridic food, and they hire excellent brewers.
You should have asked to have a bottle of their just-released whisky called 'Blasphemy'... they did a collab with Archie Rose - an excellent Sydney distillery... they used St Ali's coffee as a replacement for plain water when they cut the barrel %abv of one of their rye offerings. It's absolutely spectacular.
Does it work with reusable pods?
Seems like if they have different recipes for different pods, they really should have a way for the machine to recognize the pod and auto set the recipe. Some sort of bar code would probably do the trick.
Dang beatbox king
Nespresso was my gateway into an espresso machine hobby and one of my biggest complaints about Nespresso after awhile is that for the most part all the capsules taste the same and you never get a caffe taste. This might help a bit but it’s still a very compromised solution. What many YT espresso channels haven’t done is exploring how to get fully autos to output good espresso so that people that want that hands off and not a hobby experience get a good cup and ditch the pods.
Completely agree! Thats why I move to a real espresso machine
Beat boxing made the highlight of this video for me :D!
Hahaha! Thank you!
Maybe it's the grounds in the pod? Do you need to shake to break up clumps?
Lol I struggle to make a heart with a proper steam wand, and Lance is over here pouring hearts with a handheld foamer
Also I'm surprised this machine is only $400. Given how expensive true espresso machines are, I was expecting $800+
I'm pretty sure with those big guns of his he could foam milk by shaking the bottle straight out of the fridge and pour some rosettas.
Lance, I ordered the machine but for some reason I am not able to order the capsules from the website. Website says it cant ship to my address which is in the US. Please advise
I wouldn't mind something like this but one thing I was worried about, which is what you show here, is the consistency. Are the pods the problem or is it the machine? How do we really know its hitting those pressures? How long will 3rd party roasters continue to make pods? How long is the warranty and what is the service like?
It also lacks milk capability. A used gaggia classic pro would be the same price as the morning kit but the morning is convenient. Personally, if it was consistent every single shot, I would probably buy one.
I think you hit the nail on the head for who its for. It's for people who like pod machines but look for a little better quality machine. So the question is, will those people be willing to shell out a premium for this machine and its pods? It's such a niche market.
Edit: I have a fully modded gaggia classic pro and DF64. I'm sensitive to caffeine so I've been dropping my dose. 18 to 16 to 14. Personally I like a split double shot w/ 5oz of cold oat milk. So thats about 9g coffee. I roast my own coffee and I think this would be pretty cool to play around with refillable pods.
What brand/model is your tds reader?
The rare colona pods are fantastic
Where are the white cups you've used in multiple videos from? So cool!
Arita x magnolia mountain collab. It was a one-off run of cups
@@LanceHedrick Ah too bad, would've loved one. Thanks!
I would take Lance doing Lance stuff on me any day everyday
I am Nespresso machine owner and every time, I brew a capsule, I always do an empty shot to “back flush” and to ensure the coffee taste is accurate and consistent. Do you think that if you run an empty shot after each capsule (assuming you’re using different capsules), it will lead to more consistent coffee taste?
Yes. Coffee taste, yes. Shot time, no. I did this in my trials and added that to the caption because I failed to notate. The taste varied slightly but not enough to flush every shot while on live. Tbh, I had done so much background I wasn't really reacting in the video in real time but reflecting my experience at home.
I like the Cappuccino Cup! Anyone knows which one this is and where to get it?
Is this machine compatible with Evergreen Reusable Coffee Pod
would you fill your own with fresh ground?
On my La Pavoni, unless I revert to extreme rituals, the first shot always runs fast. The second shot always tastes best!
I looks like thermal management is not 100% with these devices.
Oh nooooo! Another coffee toy I think I need!
what was the st Ali one like?
Starting from Scales... smart move!
Here’s an update after owning the machine for a few months. First, Lance, you should have run a purge cycle between different capsules as there is a bit of residual coffee left in the innards after pulling a shot. There are several boutique roasters here in the UK who offer estate coffees in capsule form, some not listed on the Roasters tab of the Morning App. The capsule choices are generally the same as the whole beans offered by those roasters. It’s not hard to figure out a good setting for non-app coffee capsules. I’ve only once had the problem you’ve had with consistency of output where it gushes out. Whether 25g or 40g I’ve found the machine to be accurate. The biggest annoyance I’ve had is minor but after a capsule is finished it keeps saying enjoy for maybe 15 seconds and a few seconds later it reminds me to release the capsule for another 10 seconds. This puts an extra 20+ seconds between shots. To speed things up you can press the back button but I wish there was a way of changing the timing and that happy little chime which becomes slightly annoying after awhile. The other thing to note is the ease of cleanup for just grabbing a quick espresso without all the ceremony of using a grinder and machine. ATB
Yes I know to purge. I didn't show everything in the video.
What you saw is exactly what I have a notebook filled with. Inconsistent shots.
I did a lot of homework before making this video, I assure you lol
And it doesn't change the fact that the coffees (I had many more capsules than in the video) still weren't very good. And extractions were all over the place.
Anyway, I'm happy you enjoy it! I just diagree. 🙏🏻
Is a bloom really necessary? I can't imagine there's much C02 left in a pre-ground coffee capsule. Does the bloom serve any other purpose?
Blooming is just as much about making sure the entire coffee dose is wet before the majority of the extraction happens as getting rid of the CO2
My mom has a pod machine and it kinda works for when we need coffee for 8 and our french press won't cut it.
I don't see her "upgrading" to this one, but maybe if the tech and scene matures some more it would be worth it.
Does it manage to make Nespresso taste well?
Lance,
Now that the refillable pods are available to use your own coffee, would you try out the machine using your own coffee and your profile?
Yes! Would enjoy that, for sure
Strikes me like a good machine to have around for those instances that I want a decent cup of coffee but don’t have the time for a “proper” workflow
Sure! Issue is, you won't know what to expect since there seems to be an inconsistency problem needing to be addressed! The colonna capsules were definitely the most consistent, tho, for whatever reason.
@@LanceHedrick tempted to think that it is grind and packing inconsistencies between the pucks. Maybe try to prepare pucks at home with a good grinder and consistent technique and test the machine again??
That could definitely be the issue. I will say, though, that all the pods I opened optically seemed solid. And colonna uses a roller mill for their pods, so nothing better than that haha
Is it still worth getting?
I would love to see a comparison of the Drink Morning machine vs the original Nespresso machine. How much does the control of the brew effect the pods and their outputs.
Phew. Not sure if I have it in me to taste the normal nespresso pods haha! I'll consider it lol
Morning recommends running purge before brewing, and shaking the capsule before inserting it in. I do that before every brew and the results are more consistent. Perhaps you might want to try that.
Edit: I should mention that the "plumbing" of the system leaves a bit of water in the system between shots, so the purge is essential to clear it out and prevent contamination between shots.
I had shaken all the capsules prior to filming. Just didn't include. The purge I was not doing, but I doubt it would make a massive difference in the speed of shots. I had purged some at home and noticed little to no difference in shot times. Have you pulled multiple in succession?
Thank you for the comment!
Also, because of your comment, I added an edit to the caption. Thanks again for reminding me! When posting, I always forget things I mean to add in the caption. Cheers
@@LanceHedrick yes I have pulled multiple shots in succession. A few things I have noticed are:
1. Water could be retained in the plumbing. When you do a purge and open the pod lever, you might notice a gush of water coming out.
2. Coffee rarely gushes out after pulling a shot and opening the pod lever.
3. Yet, purging right after a shot does bring out some coffee, which means some coffee does remain in the plumbing after pulling a shot.
4. What this means is that, some coffee from the previous shot, if not purged, will make it into the next cup.
5. One might observe this as a brief gush of coffee when pulling a shot without a prior purge. I suspect the carbon dioxide build-up and release from degassing during the blooming process pushes that previous bit of coffee out before the actual coffee from the pod comes out.
6. The mixing of two coffees might alter the taste profile of the coffee, though the effect might probably be minuscule.
7. Sometimes, after pulling a shot, a lot of coffee continues to flow after it even after the chime from the machine. I suspect this is due to continued degassing of the coffee which pushes more liquid out, resulting in a larger shot, and likely bits of coffee liquid that are not so desirable (perhaps overextracted stuff). I have raised this issue to Morning.
8. Generally, I find that this plumbing part affects consistency and I have suggested to Morning to look at a way to physically cut off the flow to accurately arrive at the desired volume/weight. The excess flow should go right into the waste water container. The purge function should ideally also discharge directly through the same means into the waste water container.
9. I also do not like the design of the nozzle. Apart from its position which you mentioned, the "flat" snout design will retain at least a drop or two of water there. It should be diagonal, similar to the poking end of a straw, or better still, similar to the spout of an espresso machine.
10. As for your remark about purge making a difference in the speed of the shots: yes I agree it would not. The speed of the shot I surmise will be affected by the "puck" assuming all other variables remain constant - which is basically how fine and consistently the coffee in the pod has been ground, and how well "tamped" they are in the production process. Looking at the colour of the fluid if the flow rate is faster than normal, I suspect there is some channelling in the puck, which will result in a poor shot.
11. Moreover, I don't know how they have actually dealt with the pressures resulting from degassing in the pod during the bloom process. There doesn't seem to be anywhere for the carbon dioxide to go. I have experienced once where the aluminium foil at the front of the pod tore open, perhaps due to excessive pressures. Yet, the pod and the design of the internal holder should be able to withstand the pressures of the 9 bars going through the brewing process, so perhaps it isn't an issue. What I'm trying to say is that the pressures might be greater than one may have desired during the brewing process, and this pressure is not from the water but from the gas in the pod, which could create channels or push water a lot quicker through than one would like in the initial part of the coffee discharge.
I find the engineering of this machine to be an extremely complex affair and kudos goes to the inventors of the original Nespresso for coming up with such a thing, and for the Morning guys for improving upon it. There are definitely issues in the consistency, as you say, but when I think about it, it seems to be a much more going on to put the blame on the machine alone.
I don't think I explicitly put blame on the machine in the video. I feel I left it open to be a pod issue, especially the fact I kept talking about how colonna was different. I contacted colonna and they use a roller mill for their capsules, which could absolutely be the guiding hand in that pod's consistency.
As for the purge, again, I do know all you said. As I stated, I did purge in my test period. I didn't see a need to make that mess and to do it while filming. It didn't make a difference with shot times for the most part
I was genuinely judging flavor in this video. Instead, I was moreso acting, allowing what I had ascertained in my trial period to shine through, except for those anomalous shots which were wholly not consistent with my aforementioned trials.
Perhaps there was more implied blame on the machine than necessary, but, to be honest, there were some issues with the machine I did, in fact, cut out. It skipped a blooming cycle on a shot, for instance.
But, anyway, the gusher shot was much more prevalent in my trial than I let on. Even with purges and shaking and giving the machine time in between.
Could absolutely be the pods, but one would think morning would have taken the time to ensure the product they're selling, whether it is their machine or the products they're partnering with, actually give a consistent experience.
Seems a good system. Not available in the EU it seems.
Now if they make a refillable capsule and make it more consistent could it be a poor mans decent? Like really poor lol, I understand the size limit would be very small, but if it does do a good job of temp and pressure stability I could see it being a very fun toy at the price it is. Its not cheap, but saving up for a decent is taking forever and this could be a fun thing in the meantime.
Would be super cool to see a video on water recipes. There's a ton of info out there, but super hard to find a beginner's guide to exploring different recipes.
For sure! Working on something, but big list of videos on the way haha
Water recipes?
Reminds me of a joke about a guy selling packages with instant water. You just have to add water.
Hi Lance, what bout Nespresso pod taste? If you blind taste the product, that will be great
Interesting but the variability seems odd. I wonder if it has something to do with coffee settling/compacting in the pods?
I can’t help feeling that this is a solution looking for a problem and that anyone who is really interested in profiling will make espresso, although I’m sure some people who typically drink ‘proper’ espresso may pick one up for quick low-effort shots, entertaining or perhaps in their office, particularly given the small footprint and lack of mess.
It would be interesting to see how those pods compare through either a traditional Nespresso machine or one of the slightly more sophisticated ones, such as the Opal.
From my Nespresso experience, the nicer coffees pulled here blow other machines out of the water. But the lower quality coffee pods aren't discernible enough form normal Nespresso to make a large difference
Lol @ "rewound the tape" 😂 these millennials in here are like "what'd he say?" 🤣
Great video man! It's a cool machine! I don't know if I'd buy one. The smartphone part is Cool. I'm surprised more espresso machines haven't done this (like the decent or Linea Mini). The part where roasters submit ideal profiles is pretty awesome
I think that part of the inconsistencies of how the shots tasted are not due to the machine but to the capsule handling. Handling a capsule is like having a well prepared coffee puck in the basket, if the capsules are shaken during shipment or dropped when picked up, you'll of course have some kind of channeling.
Oh sure. I did shake then as recommended off camera. I put this in the caption. Didn't like how I looked shaking a capsule lol
Its seems like you dont want to like the Nespresso machine, but you kept saying, is good, and well extracted coffee. I have the vertuo version and its ok coffee, I use when I want something fast or for guests.
No you misheard. I said the colonna was well extracted and the circle coffee was well extracted. My qualms were that 6 of the 8 coffees I received were horribly extracted and even the good ones were incredibly inconsistent. Shot to shot there was variability
does this machine breaks down easily? Some buyers mentioned it breaks down all the time. Can someone feedback?
To your question about is this the future of accessible equipment? No, I don’t think so. I would think that people who enjoy Nespresso style beverages don’t want that amount of control? And for those that do they’d likely migrate to a lever machine like the Flair or go in for a Breville Barista Express. Maybe this is for someone who wants a super automatic machine like a Jura but doesn’t want to drop $3,000? Someone commented here already that this seems to be trying to solve a problem that no one has and I think that is the perfect reaction to this product.
I’m honestly confused about this one in a totally non-judgmental way. If I wanted something that has an easy workflow/cleanup then why not just get the Nespresso and have done with it?
Anyway, solid video. Thanks as always.
It’s odd not to have a QR code on the pod which the app or machine can use to go direct to the roasters profile. Like others not sure who would buy it. I was thinking it’s for someone fed up of making espresso or is now too busy but is also fussy. But that’s not many people! Might also suit the trendy tech or law (etc.) office where they don’t want the hassle of messy and time consuming machine but they want to pay as much as possible.
This is actually a great idea, tbh.
1 year late but I just saw this machine in the office. Have to admit, I have an espresso set up (niche, lelit), but sometimes, SOMETIMES you get lazy to do the whole thing. And my wife only drinks milk or Americano, and knows jack about coffee in general, even if a gesha slapped her in the face. This machine was perfect, we had local roasters and their brew profiles, it was just a "fun" thing now and she enjoys trying different roasters, but still refuses to do the whole espresso routine.
I was really shocked at how inexpensive this machine is compared to the feature set it offers. Considering it's comparable in price to a Flair Pro, immediately my mind wanders: If the machine can pull 9 bar like it says it can, and you can program your own recipes, and can use third party pods, so presumably you could use a refillable pod and more finely control the type, amount and grind, and freshness of the coffee in the pods, do you not have a $380 single shot espresso-only Decent?
If the claims were verifiable and the product consistent and roasters actually providing delicious coffee on pods that were all compostable, etc, yeah! Haha
Also, you'd have to buy like $8 per sleeve of coffee, which is close to $1 per pod, which is only 5.6g of coffee. The costs there are exorbitant.
@@LanceHedrick Yeah there's a number of load bearing ifs there. Still, messing around with a refillable pod like the capmesso pods where you can control everything inside of it to see where you can get extraction wise would be a fun follow up video if you were in the mood.
After doing more research I decided I wanted to buy the Drink Morning Capsule machine. Oops no can do. Both models (black/white) are sold out and will not be back in stock until November. I don't want to tie up my money for 2 months so have to hope they make enough machines that already aren't bought.
Yeah, sold out. They're sending me more capsules with updated recipes to try. Hoping to have a better experience.
I’ll admit I’m new to coffee culture so I might be off base but this seems like a very sophisticated machine, and at a price point that competes with some high level machines that don’t offer near the level of sophistication. If your in the market for a semi automatic machine this seems to offer a lot for the money. The only downside I see is that your limited to their pods.
Sophistication doesn't mean much if the product isn't versatile. But I do understand what you're saying!
@@LanceHedrick thanks for the reply, how does it lack versatility? Coffee selection? But doesn’t the other variables that can be played with offset that?
The fact that you have zero control over coffee dose or grind size
Great way toward real espresso. It is to damn convienient.
Very convenient, for sure. Like in between batch brew and espresso maybe
I've heard people say they zero with distilled water on the refractometers many times now, but as a chemist I can't help but feel like you should be zeroing with the water you use to brew the coffee. That way any dissolved solids in the water aren't affecting the TDS reading. Why do so many people use distilled water instead? Are you brewing with distilled water?
No but you would be alone in the coffee realm, even as a chemist, to say this. I'm basing my decisions off chemists who specifically work with coffee. one being Dr. Hendon from Univeristy of Oregon who wrote the book Water for Coffee. In addition, I have friends with PhDs in other scientific fields that write on coffee who also agree the water used to zero should be distilled (thinking of Samo Smrke and Jonathan Gagne)
@@LanceHedrick It makes sense as a literal zero point, distilled water should have zero TDS. I suppose what I'm actually referring to is a "blank," instead of a zero point.
Now im curious what tds you would measure recipe water at
Help us with the math here Lance. A typical espresso shot is like 9-10g coffee grounds for 20-30g shot, so 1:2-3. If the pods contain 5.5g that should translate to a 10-15g shot, or more like a half shot, otherwise wouldn’t it be overly extracted or weak? You seem to enjoy a couple of the shots, so …?
That is assuming this goes under the same rules as normal espresso machines, which I highly doubt. And even then, you can make espresso at 1:5 that's not over extracted or particularly weak considering the ratio either as long as you adjust the variables the right way
Is Nestlé targeting us?
The idea of this machine is great, however in reality you would have to use at least 2 pods or put more coffee in each one to make anything worthwhile. A pod containing 5.6 grams can’t produce more than 10 - 15 grams out and still have good body and flavor. When using K Cups I always needed at least 2 to make a decent cup of coffee.
Thats what I assumed. I always wondered why even the biggest capsules only contain 7g of coffee while people like James Hoffmann talk about using 18g of coffee for an espresso.
A double shot is about 18g. I think these are moreso trying to find an economical way to provide single espressos, which are properly around 7g. They aren't trying to make espresso, hence it not being called an espresso machine. Its sort of in between espresso and drip
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Cool concept, but as you said, not sure who would be interested in this..
It would be nice to hear why you dislike a certain coffee. They can't all be delicious cups, but we can learn from when something doesn't taste right. One coffee you said "I hate that." I wanna know why.
If you kept watching, I clarified that I actually liked that cup. I figured that would go over poorly lol. I meant that I hated I loved it so much. Sorry for the confusion lol.
I said "I hate that. That cup is ridiculous. It's so good."
Being a coffee professional, I don't WANT to like Nespresso, but I'm being as objective as possible.
Also, with the other capsules, I tried to explicate my dislike. I spoke of watery, thin, bitter, chalky, etc.
Hope that is helpful and sorry for the sarcasm that was too much haha!
@@LanceHedrick Ahhh, ok, ok. Thanks for the clarification.
Yeah! Sorry about that lol. When editing I was like, oh crap. People will either get the sarcasm or it will be too thickly coated haha
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Conspiracy theorist in me says that they'll put QR codes on these things in future, just like Nespresso does (to make sure you're tied to one system). Happy that, taste wise, my investment in a regular grinder+espresso machine setup is not made obsolete by technology-at least, not yet 😈.
Interesting... maybe not for me 😁🤙
Price per capsule is almost double that of regular Nespresso (which is also 5g per capsule). Singapore is still rather nascent in all things tech and their products reflect that inexperience. No doubt in around 10 to 20 years we'll see some real quality coming out from there.
Oh absolutely. And as I say in the video, the colonna coffee was shockingly tasty. So, I see some hope
Complicated
Received a response from the company. They are unable to ship capsules to the US due to Custom issues. Cancelled my order
Oh really!? They have shipped to me multiple times. I wonder if something changed with us customs
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Could you do a test order for the minimum amount of capsules and see if the order goes through? I ended up buying a machine from Eight Ounces in Canada along with some capsules they have for sale.
Can I use the original Nespresso pods with this machine?
Good video, hate the product
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Why review this machine, but refuse the Gevi 2-in-1, the Decent of pour-over?
Wait. When did I refuse the Gevi? I have one on the way to me now. Curious why you said that?
@@LanceHedrick “They reached out wanting a video review but I'm not wanting to commit to that. Told them I'd test, send feedback, and put my thoughts on Instagram ‘
Ahhh I told them I wouldn't commit to a video for a unit. They expected a positive review. Drink Morning had zero conditions. I was going to buy this machine because people in my Patreon requested it. I never ever accept free equipment with the premise of a review. That helps me maintain less bias. This machine was given to me after I was going to buy it without any stipulations of reviews, etc. As you saw it you watched the video, I didn't give it a great review haha. I don't like being expected to review something because then it gets weird. The people at Gevi understood my response and agreed to send one, anyway. So, now I'll get one and have the option of doing a video or not. If that makes sense!