How to tune older BMW ECUs
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
- Earlier I have done some ms41 tuning videos. But I often get questions how to tune different BMW ECUs. So in this video I go through many older BMW ECUs on how to tune those, what tools you need etc.
ms4x.net wiki: www.ms4x.net/index.php?title=... @ms4xnet585
BMW tuning discord group: / discord
Download RomRaider: romraider.com/index.php/RomRa...
BMW section on RomRaider forum: romraider.com/forum/viewforum...
Bimmer Tuning Tools: www.bimmertuningtools.com/
TunerPro site: www.tunerpro.net/
Chaos Calibrations: www.chaoscalibrations.com/
MSS54 XDFs github repo: github.com/saildot4k/MSS54-XDFs
Free ms45 flash tool: github.com/terraphantm/MS45-F...
0:00 intro
0:28 MS41
9:53 MS42/MS43
18:24 MS45
23:35 MSS5x
25:36 MSV70, etc.
27:05 Old Bosch ECUs
29:55 M5.2, M5.2.1
30:52 M7.2
31:06 M9.2
31:51 DDE4/EDC15
32:44 Pops and bangs - Auta a dopravní prostředky
this guy is like wikipedia
Pazi is not only a Bmw-wiki, but he also masters 3 engineering branches, video film&edit, welding, lathe, knows coding and drives fast. And many things which I don't recall right now lol
Perfect timing! I just bought an s50b30. Thank you!
Greetings from Latvia. Thank you for your work. Years ago your videos was only ones that worked for me to successfuly tune ms41. Than you pazi
Thank you so much for being this Kind of helpful and doing all this subtitles over years!
I appreciate your Work very much!
Greetings from Germany
I always look forward to your videos! Thanks for all you do!
This is a gold mine! Also, I thought someone slipped a Babel fish in my ear at the start, then I realised I'm a dumb English person, and you're narrating in English. Deep respect, thank you!!!
Thank u so much for this video. Only flashed ms41 and 43. finally have a idea for other ecus. Thank u❤️
English, yes thank you, it's always good listening easier to pay attention to what your doing (ps been watching your videos for years now) Thanks 👍🏽
You are a LAGEND Man. Your MS45.0 definitions is the thing that got me into tuning my e60 myself. I was disappointed when I found out that it uses ms45 instead of ms43 I almost just took it to some cheap tuner guy for tune. But because of Your incredible work I get to learn it myself. THANK YOU
You are welcome! The ms45 definitions are still in progress. I hope to get logging definitions there too soon.
Thank you so much for making this video 🙏
Saw my name at 9:05!!!
Thanks Pazi! Love your videos
Thanks pazi, This info is priceless!
Thank you so much for all that you document. You are amazing.
You are welcome 🙂
Thanks you I'm from Aruba BMW E46 freaks good loud and clear explanation👍👍👌👌
Good stuff buddy !
You are true master of ms4x ecus !! thanks for all the info that you provide for us !
You are welcome!
@@pazi88 is there a way to make hard rev limiter on ms45 ?
@@milosmilanko4472 I don't know and I'm not really that interested on the hard rev limiter 😅 it makes same hp with soft and hard limiter 😁
@@milosmilanko4472 But if you are interested on that, you can ask if chaos calibrations can do it: www.chaoscalibrations.com/store/MS45-X-c72487042
Liked that Bing note :)
Thanks for mentioning :)
Thank you pazi!! And it's in English 😎
Discord layout aged like milk lol
Great video pazi
Very helpful Tnx a lot
Thanks for the content and thanks for speaking in English.
Thank you 👍
youre a very cool guy
suomeksi kiitos jatkossa. 🙏
tekstitys
Jep siellä on teksitykset olemassa jos ei englantia ymmärrä 😁
ei ole siittä kiinni etten ymmärrä. lopetetaanpa sitten seuraaminen. kiitos.
@@tuomas4560 voi ei selviääköhän hän nyt?😂
@@tuomas4560no jos kerta ymmärrät ni mikä vaivaa 😂
Master 😮
What obd 2 reader i need for ms43 for the ms4x flasher to work? Sorry if i missed it in the video.
Just olin menossa katteleen sun videoista oisko tällasta. Oli kyllä hyvä ajotus 👍
Weird question, Pazi88 but could you show the full process for doing an EWS delete on the MS45?
Thank you for everything you do, I got a couple of DME boards for my m50 from you on my last project and I'm about to get a first start on my new project a turbo e83. You're a legend in the space!
It's easy. Just read the full bin and MPC from MS45. Then write those back and check the "Patch EWS" -box before flashing. And that's it.
hi
You now some options for m42b18
Thanks !
I have a problem starting the engine. I have completed connecting the lines in place as shown in the diagram. I only had the problem of it not igniting. I put the M62tu engine Bosch computer. on a body E31 I did not get results after canceling EWS. The result was failure. Could you help me
Thank you very much for this beautiful and simple explanation. I am new to your channel and I am glad I saw it... There is a question, if you can help me, I have an ecu s50, can you modify it remotely?
Hi! Sorry I don't really have time to.do tunes or remote tuning. But you can join the discord and ask if someone else could.
@@pazi88 thank you so much... Nice to see your reply bro ... If you have someone can help us for Software and modification I will be very thankful to you
Thank you for this, but I have a question, what about BMS43 for the m43 engines? Same like the other Bosch things?
Sorry, no idea about those.
Suomeksi sama setti ja muutkin videot jatkossa🙏
Englanniks on parempi näille on niin paljo ulkomaalaisia katsojia, mutta pasi on ahkerana tehny tekstit suomeks jos niitä tarvii
Another wave of “I’ve installed everything, can someone share a pops bangs map plz” is coming
Well yeah, but luckily there is tunes to buy for that 😂
Wow great video and also in English very good thank you. Can you tell me if with m5.2 m5.2.1 quickflash can I delete ews?
Unfortunately no. M5.2 is currently only of the few ECUs that don't have public ews delete available.
@@pazi88 Ok I understand thank you so much for quick reply. Can you tell also with what tool can I delete sap pump and rear o2 sensors on ms42 ecu and also for me7.2 ecu?
Does the quick flash also corrects checksums automatically like the ms4x flasher?
Good content 👍
Yes. As far as I know, all quick flash tools correct checksums automatically.
@@pazi88 awesome, thanks a lot! ✌️
Great video!! I have a e46 with ms43 and trying to flash a tune on the dme. I’ve done it before years back but now I’m getting an error message on jm garage flasher it says ms43 connection error wrong echo bytes. What does that mean please help
@@dironizareyes596 usually wrong delay for the com port. But don't use jmgarage flasher for tuning. Use the ms4x.net flasher.
And also I need to get the definition xdf files for the older chip ecu to use with a new piggyback Bluetooth chip that modernizes the chip style ecus. You now longer have to physically burn a chip with the emulator that cobrartp has come out with and I just want to understand one thing about these files. My question is if the definition was made to work with romraider can I use it in tunerproRT ? Because that’s what then cobra piggy back is made to work with and I was thinking of using ba114 file because that looks like exactly what I’ve been looking for ?
Or will there be some problem between the two tuning programs if I use the defintions that were originally intended to be use with romraider ?
Hey, so I have tried using the definitions of @ba114 for the m5.2 dme, but it doesnt seem to work for my partial or full reads (.bin/image file of the ecu), neither does his btw.
Any chance you could help me troubleshoot with it? Really the only thing I want to change is the rev limit....
Appreciate it man.
It could be that you have different software version than ba114 is supporting.
Your english is quite good
Thanks!
how about bms46 ecu? how can i read-write?
What the flash Tool ecu bms46 for e46 318
If I have this tool BMW INPA / Ediabas OBD & ADS with COM port (not USB) will it fullflash the ecu? Not sure if there's ftdi chip inside
Not with those tools at least that I did show. Those rely on the ftdi chip on the dongle (that is USB-serial driver). The softwares don't use the simulated COM port, but the ftdi chip directly to communicate with the ECU.
@@pazi88 Guess I'll have to resell my old ads/obd wiring for nothing and buy a new one with tfdi in it so I could flash my ecu through ms41 flashtool? Perkele! 😩
Which ECU can be used with only one pre-cat and one post-cat lambda sensor. I have a 6 in 1 Exhaust Manifold.
Ms41,42,43
Hi, the invitation to the discord server doesnt work anymore
xdf for dde4?
Hey Pazi,
In the past had problems reading ms41.1 with the old chipster tool (ms41.0 always worked) Do you may know if the new tool fixes this issue? If so I would invest in that tool
There is some bug fixes in ms41 quick flash compared to old chipster tool. But I don't remember what those were. But at least I didn't have problems using chipster tool with ms41.1.
It’s alpina specific, I also had problems with chipster on a tuned ms41.0 and may give the new tool a try
I have already a software with pops and bangs, I just want to add launch control… what I have to do now?
And which Eu2 or EU4 I have to take?
Please I need help!
You need to copy the changes from old tune to the new version that has the launch control patch. And eu2/4 depends on your car.
@@pazi88 uii thanks a lot!
Hello, anyone knows a program to read and flash motronic ECU for bmw e30 with m20b20 engine?
Those have oldschool eeprom inside. So you need eeprom programmer and that kind of stuff for it.
Hi, I need for e90 n46 318i definition for romraider, can you help me please 😢
Sorry, I don't have anything for that.
Hey pazi I just wanted to know how I can get my hands on one of your pcb boards for the ms41 been fallowing the thread on speeduino just links are dead if you can put a link would be helpful correctly working on a m52b28 with s54b32 itb’s on it from RRD thank for making the videos bro you have helped me understand the ecu and also help me help others in my area to understand these ecu ms41-ms45 thank you again E36GANG760
Hi! Unfortunately I'm not selling those currently. Too busy. But you can get the board gerber files from my GitHub. And order boards from jlcPcb. Minimum is 5 boards, so it doesn't cost that much.
@@pazi88 thank you bro will do
@@pazi88 is there any difference between 2.0 and 3.0 as in components and board ?
@@moddingjr7797 2.x is through hole components. And 3.0 is SMD. Feature wise, those are almost identical.
Loppu videoiden katselu siihen kun kieli vaihtui. Harmi sinänsä, mukavaa seurattavaa oli aiemmin. Jos ne katselijamäärät ei merkittävästi tuosta nouse niin toivottavasti nähdään paluu kotimaiselle kielelle.
Noo älähän mitään. Just luin uutisista, että kohta CZcamsssa on mahdollista tehdä ääniraidat useammalla kielellä. Kunhan se toteutuu, niin eiköhän nämä tule tehtyä kummallakin kielellä. Toimii varsinkin tämmösissä missä allekirjoittaneen kasvoja ei näy.
hi I it is very, my BMW E 36 GOT WET BY THE RAIN .Please can you help me to start the car
Well you need to figure our why it won't start 😅
Vähä jäi epäselväksi mikä tää definion file on. Oma säätötausta on ecumasterin vehkeistä.. eli pystyykö vaikka ms42 lataamaan filen, viemään sen romraideriin, muuttamaan karttaa+rajotinta tms. Ja sitten lataamaan takasin? Eka tietty päivittää se ecun firmware?
Thäänks, hyvä infopaketti 🤟
Definion file siis kertoo säätöohjelmalle että mistä kartat ja parametrit löytyy kullekkin eculle. Ilman sitä noiden säätö on lähes mahdottomuus. Ja joo kyllä, juurikin noin.
Hi friend did you have definition file for ms41.3 ecu
Those are at Ms4x.net discord
There is nothing for ms41 ms41.3 i know that forum
@@autodetailingcenterhris0077 There is ms41 thread on the discord and also ms41.3 discussion section.
Anyone has definition for bosch me9.2? Trying to modify it, its on a bmw e46 318i
did u found it?
@@hugocunha30 nope 🙁
@giulioex125e7 Did you find the definition file?
@@samym4925 sadly not. I had to send the file to a guy to edit it and send it back to me, to upload it on the ecu. No idea qhat software he used tho.
Onko mahdollista saada video missä näytät tupla vanoa moottorin ajotuksen säädön?
Seuraavassa osassa 300hp vapari prokkista tulen sen näyttämään miten tapahtuu.
@@pazi88 selvä👍👍👍
Laughed at the "nice"
402 Bosch ECU is m50 non vanos not m60
Yes true, but I have mixed up the cases on my broken ecu pile, many times 😅
Hello, anyone here who can program and modify, leave me a message or e-mail, and I will send it ... We work in a workshop and we need an online programmer
Puhe Suomeksi ja tekstitys Englanniksi.
Ei. Englanniks vaa
@@yaboyis2236 miksi tekstitys on myös Englanniksi.Vaikka Englantia ymmärrän niin sen kuuntelu tuossa on niin raskasta että tekstit voisi sitten laittaa Suomeksi 🤣
Suomenkieliset tekstitykset on kans 😉 vai eikö ne näy 🤔
@@pazi88 no perkl. Olihan siellä 😁
I still use subtitles... just sayin'
Ei englanniksi
Aika yleinen kieli niin opettele..
@@jonsse7254 homo
Hohhoijjaa..
Joo ja jos ei luonnistu taikka ei haluta kuunnella, niin tein suomenkieliset tekstitykset tutulla oulun murteella 😁
Its work For Ms 41 without indeks code?
Hi. Could you give link to discord group?
It's in the description. But anyways: discord.gg/vdVsypF