Unfolded - A Paper Mario Documentary
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- This documentary took us a while to make so we hope you enjoy! In this video we go over the development, and aspects of each Paper Mario game, and more!
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The Mario series covers a huge variety of genres: platformers, sports, racing, party, educational and role-playing games. With the recent bankruptcy of AlphaDream, the creative geniuses behind the Mario and Luigi games, it’s a good opportunity to talk about the other big Mario RPG series. Paper Mario. Welcome to Unfolded - A Paper Mario Documentary. Joined with me for this documentary is one of the biggest Paper Mario fans I know, Kappy. Hey guys, Kappy here. I’ll be reading some info about The Thousand Year Door later in the video (insert whatever you want here). Now, lets get into the history of this gaming staple.
The story starts with the game company behind the series: Intelligent Systems. It was founded in December 1986 by Toru Narihiro. Initially, Narihiro was hired by Nintendo to help them port the Famicom Disk System software to the ROM-cartridge system, which was the standard outside of Japan for the NES. Later on, the team would grow and their primary task was to help fix and port Nintendo-developed games such as the original Mario Bros, Duck and Hunt and Donkey Kong 3 to name a few. Narihiro would program his first two games and release them towards the end of the Famicon’s lifetime, those games were Famicom Wars and Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light. With the success Narihiro found, he decided to hire more people and thus Intelligent Systems became a game-developing company.
After the release of Square’s critically-acclaimed Super Mario RPG in 1996, the folks at Intelligent Systems were working on what was supposed to be a sequel to that game. The game was revealed at Space World 97 with Shigeru Miyamoto as one of the producers of the project. It was revealed in an interview with Nintendo Power at E3 that year, that about twenty people worked on the game. Amongst those included writers Kumiko Takeda and Kaori Aoki and Naohiko Aoyama the art director, responsible for the game’s unique paper artstyle. Originally, the game was called Super Mario RPG 2, but due to some legal complications with Square, the name was changed to Super Mario Adventure, then Mario Story in Japan and Paper Mario for the rest of the world. It was originally meant to release on Nintendo’s 64DD, but the latter ended up being a commercial failure so the game released on the regular 64. Early screenshots of the game showed the title screen with the name Super Mario RPG 2. Another screenshot depicted an early version of Dry Dry Desert. The final image was a concept of Mario, Luigi and Yoshi in their Super Mario World sprites surrounded by a 3D paper-like environment, with the title Mario RPG 64. Considering that the image is dated March 4 1997, it can be assumed that this was the basis for the series’s paper artstyle. The final game released in August 11 2000 in Japan, February 5th 2001 in North America and October 5th in Europe and Australia that same year.
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Should we update this after Origami King comes out?
Yes! I found this video very enlightening when it comes to the series’s evolution, so I’d really enjoy a continuation..
Yes, definitively
Yes
Maybe you can update it with TOK and Bug Fables alongside.
Yes!
Wait, super paper Mario was criticized for lacking extra content? There’s a whole bunch of stuff to do. It’s one of the only games I know where after you beat the game, it opens up as a whole post-game after the final boss happened, instead of resetting you back to right before the fight. There’s extra pixls, 2 pits of trials, a whole thing of chapter 6, more lore from characters just chilling in the hub world, and more.
I thought of that as well! That is one thing that puts it up there with the other 2
Maybe it's because it might be tedious content? (Chapter 6, especially)
@@miimiiandco.8721 have you played as bowser with carry pixl? It’s not hard at all
As soon as I got to the first boss in Sticker Star, I knew how much of a chore it would be. I wasted 75% of everything I had in that fight just because I did not use the thing sticker on the correct timing. At least I could beat the first boss through brute force. It was next to impossible for the second boss. The puzzles were so obtuse that I just ended up using a guide past chapter 2. The biggest crime is that Bowser does not talk at all. It may have not been entirely Miyamoto's fault but we were robbed of an actual ttyd sequel. I would have rather taken a derivative tyyd clone than a boring, plodding action adventure game sticker star turned into.
Using discriminatory-based words like actually is what I hate about the fanbase.
@@Jacob-rf7ci ????
@@shybandit521 I mean as in it's basically a video game equivalent of racism.
@@Jacob-rf7ci what is? The word "actually"?
@@shybandit521 Exactly. It's basically like telling a person " you dont behave the way I invinsion you. Therefore your not a real person" it's just selfish, idiotic, and disrespectful to those who genuinely enjoy the ladder two games of the series.
Bro super paper Mario was one of the firs games I played alone in like 2009 I have sooooo much nostalgia for all of it. I love this video 👍
The video was ambitious, but the overall lack of cohesion made it somewhat confusing. For example, when discussing the Beta screenshots in the beginning, why weren't these screenshots included? If they don't exist and were based only off a description, why not disclose that information?
As well as that, the lack of cohesion also showed up in the mismatched visuals. As an example, when talking about Paper Mode in TTYD, you show Mario in the background when talking about paper mode, Mario getting a curse when talking about boat mode, and Mario in a dungeon while talking about being in the background. Would it not have made more sense to show mario getting a curse when talking about curses, mario in paper mode when talking about paper mode, etc?
Overall, very ambitious and I hope you continue to improve as you make more videos like this one!
I very much appreciate the feedback! Most feedback is just people getting triggered by a small mistake and saying it ruined or video but comments like this that are well thought out and give advice what to improve on help us see what needs to be better! We have a few other documentaries in this playlist if you want to check them out, one actually just came out this week but it wasn’t as big as this one. czcams.com/play/PLgkwy94FcZAEgg6Z64eatBpLXI2Ol479r.html
@@GameDomain Hey, just a quick mention I'd like to put out there, most people who make comments like that are executing hyperbole, and it doesn't actually represent how they feel 100%. Sorry that people are rude to you, even if a lot don't mean to be.
The first 3 installments are timeless classics. A Paper Mario Allstars needs to be created with those 3
If we can get another game fairly similar to the first two that would be a dream come true.
Try But Fables maybe? XP
I'd even take a Super Paper Mario sequel.
Paper Mario deluxe on the switch
3*
I count super paper Mario as one of the originals
24:53 a super paper mario movie could have happened...
We were on the verge of the greatness! We were this close!
🤏
WHY NINTENDO. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I used to imagine something like that. And now to hear that it actually would've happened is so painful...
6:19 "and in Australia, all in." Was there an audio glitch there? It sounds like you got cut off. But yeah. Pretty nice video! Thanks for uploading!
That intro gave me goosebumps with nostalgia
That was the goal lol
*Super Paper Mario was going to be a movie.*
The idea should have been stated.
!
i still love paper mario the best
This video deserves way more views, thanks for an awesome half-hour :D
Ideas for a ttyd successor
Badges: Some new ones that can apply special side effects to your attacks. Fire flower, Hammer suit, Cape Feather
Upgrade badges: Some badges oughta be upgradeable and have better attack power and new properties too
Challenges: more in depth and difficult than put of 100 trials. And every set of challenges done rewards you something great and different
Upgradeable badges: Some badges like said can be upgraded to newer better badges
Examples:
Quake Hammer to power quake then mega quake
Fire Drive Upgraded to blaze drive then inferno drive
Power bounce jump and smash to mega bounce jump and smash.
And the badges would still cost the same fp and bp. But getting said upgrades would be specific and difficult to gain requirements.
Speaking of...
Three badges in particular to add more to your fight style
Fire flower: Adds fire properties to all of Mario's attacks. Also causing burn to enemies. Some moves that were already fire based can also damage and burn armored and fire enemies.
Hammer suit: Adds hammer properties to attacks. Some moves that were already hammer based can ignore targets' defense
Cape feather: Adds air priority to all attacks, also ups attack of jump moves by 2. Moves that are jump attacks hit multiple enemies at once
Paper aesthetic level: Keep it at the same level as Thousand Year Door. That amount is just right. Not too much or too little.
Animations of characters: smooth and fluid like Thousand Year door and no white borders around the characters.
This documentary gets very sad after the halfway point when they get into Sticker Star territory. I almost cried.
As someone who's played the games, I could understand the points you were making, but if I hadn't played the games, I would've been totally lost. For example, when discussing what made the first three games good, you were providing examples, but failed to explain why people enjoyed them. If I had not played the games, then I wouldn't have understood the difference between partners and pixls, for example, nor why so many people liked the partners better, because when explaining them, you used similar language and never compared nor contrasted them. The same goes for other criticisms and compliments of the other games. To someone who's never played them, your explanations make these games sound far more similar than they are in practice. And not using visuals that were related to what you're speaking to is a huge missed opportunity, one that might've helped bridge the gap.
All in all, I liked the video (if I didn't I wouldn't have watched to the end) and I really appreciated some of the interesting fun facts in this video, I had never heard about the SPM movie, for example, but I think there are some definite improvements that could be made. :)
Look, I'm pretty sure Shigeru Miyamoto is a great guy and without him, we would not have our favorite franchises in the first place so I guess we owe him but he HAS TO STOP criticizing the Paper Mario Devs for trying to make the games feel like the first three. If the reports are correct, all of the bad things about Sticker Star and Color Splash seem to be his fault. It's so sad to see that storytelling, character design and RPG elements have to take a back seat while the Devs are forced to focus on gimmicks that might sound good on paper (pun intended) but have a poor execution and just annoy the heck out of the player (like the stickers and cards). I enjoyed the majority of Color Splash and Sticker Star also isn't "the worst game ever" but I will only get excited about a new Paper Mario game if we know for sure that Miyamoto either finally accepts that his view on the series is outdated or he has no (or way less) influence on the game's development whatsoever.
Isaak van Dijk, MD I know some people dislike SPM but you can’t deny that its story and characters were top tier compared to its successors
@@mr_jonah1673 Would you rather have a Paper Mario game similar to SS & CS, or one that has elements of the original, but glitchy & impossible to beat with the stiffest controls in history? Old Miyamoto wants good gameplay, which makes the game fun.
It's actually kenske tanabea. He was the head developer for the ladder two games and wanted to give it his own ideas. Even still, nobody tried to make these games hatable.
@@Jacob-rf7ci But who hired Tanabe?
Exactly.
@@Noname-fb1mm But who's being a snarky asshole who uses bullying as a ahield to hide their self doubt?
exactly 😏
Whoa I ended up watching this on the four year anniversary of Color Splash getting announced. Neat.
I think the next Paper Mario will be different from the last two not really because of fan demand, but because of how Color Splash was developed. I think they were already knee-deep in development when Sticker Star came out and crashed, so they couldn't do a lot to change course.
I also have a few suspicions that Sticker Star was rushed and it would've been more like Color Splash if it'd had more time. But I'd need to look into it more.
Bug Fables has taken the torch now. RIP Paper Mario. Long live Bug Fables
Incredibly high quality for a video with much needed attention. Funny looking at it now that TTYD is revealed to get a remake.
I loveeeee Paper Marioooooo
This started exactly how I started my Paper Mario journey as I hadn't played the other two beforehand
When i started hearing The Ultimate Show I just started going "Ayyy, Dimentio."
TTYD is my favorite. It took up most of my childhood gaming years.
I do love this video, and idc how paper Mario turns out, it’s still always fun to play for me
This is a really well made video, excellent job guys! Really enjoyed it.
I'm going to come out and say that I think Super Paper Mario is legitimately the best video game Nintendo has ever made
Hey I just found you guys! And what an underrated channel. And I don’t mean to be an old grouch who knows everything or anything (because I really don’t) but for future reference I have some constructive criticism. My main point is to associate what your talking about through the audio and match that up with the visuals. So for example, when you talk about the beta content fo sticker star/color splash, show what your talking about so the audience does not have to imagine what your explaining. Also on a smaller note, some of the footage did look pretty choppy, and I don’t mind you using other peoples footage, and I don’t mind the watermark they had, but just to respect the original channel, I would link them somewhere in the description. I don’t mean to be an old hag, but just some advice to make these types of video better, keep up the work! 😁😁😁
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Interesting how a game series that originally had nothing to do with paper became all about paper.
Sad, right?
great vid bro, cant wait for the new paper mario announced, looks way better than the previous 2
I loved it
(But that's my opinion)
Alright, time to add another youtuber to my underrated
youtubers list. Seriously man, this is an amazing video great job on it!
You should play Bug Fables if you want a new classic paper Mario
Hyped af
11:11 Pixls were NOT an innovation. They were very much a step backward from partners.
Combat Fritos In my opinion I thought it was very fun with the pixles rather than the parteners
They had no personality I have played all 3 so
The best part was their pesonalities
Pixls is one of the reasons SPM is my least favorite in the series. I still like the game, but I hate Pixls.
Peach, Bowser, Tippi, and Luigi are the real partners, the other pixls were never meant to replace the one from the first two. Sure you can say Peach Bowser and Luigi weren't original but the game has so many original chars anyway so yeah no complaints from me.
Also SPM is my favourite game of all time, just saying
R.I.P. the L on Luigi's cap on the thumbnail. Mario Kart Double Dash all over again.
This is a very underrated video 🔥🔥🔥
bro this was so good
Will this video be available here after the premiere?
Yes
16:40 that’s all we can ever ask for
Hey, this was a pretty good documentary
It's too bad you couldn't find those screenshots
What I really wanna know is who the heck was taking that survey that said the story in Super Paper Mario wasn't a strength? It's like, the only thing about the game universally thought to be good.
YES NICE OUTRO AT 30:00 btw
What’s the name of the song that plays at the end video?
Sounds like the end credits for Super Paper Mario.
@@oimenamesrick You're right it's indeed the end credits theme from Super Paper Mario
@@amf2k2xf Cool. I got it!
5:35 They thought Paper Mario's story was too simple back then huh
For me, the paper mario serie is the best serie of video game !!
You got to admit that Nintendos way of thinking actually created the Paper Marios we love, Mario RPG, N64 Paper and 1000 YD. But this same forward thinking also ruined the series for us fans. I am also in the same camp that loves the first 3 installments and have played all other Paper Mario's including Origami King. I wish Nintendo would just for once listen to its fans. The same way Sony and Xbox does that is why they are the top 2 for consoles while Nintendo is a close third.
Just bought a brand new never opened box of Gamecube just to play 1000YD again and paid a pretty penny for it because that game was the best and well worth it.
HUUFUFUFU-someone was going to make a movie based off of SPM?? I had no idea but damn I really wish it happened! I even have random dreams that the Paper Mario series become movies and it’s crazy! So I couldn’t believe it when I actually heard that 😯
Cool video I enjoyed ply liked commented and subbed!
To me, the issue with Paper Jam is that Paper Mario is far too overpowered in a relatively hard game, meaning most bosses boil down to the 3D bros. being downed, while Paper Mario solos the fight.
Also, Color Splash's Lemmy is the worst boss fight I've ever fought.
This is more like an iceberg video than a documentary lol
I really liked this video.
They need to make a game like Super Paper Mario ! We have pixles as partners
5:12 what that’s my favorite game in the franchise make that the sequel illumination
7:12 I think you miss timed that text there?
"Considering the images were dated March 4th, 1997"
Me: Oh cool, I'm watching this on March 4th 2021
Oh wow and here I am March 4th 2024
@@triday_dimroy5171 Dang I do not remember watching this video lol
I still believe color splash should’ve been a sequel to Mario sunshine instead of for paper Mario! I would’ve created a Mario sunshine color splash 2
Sweet 🎮
message for game domain member you use old sales number because ttyd sale 1.9m and m&l pit sale 1.72m
Heres to hoping Origami King is good! I havent liked a game in this series since 2004!
2004! is still so far away, I don't think our planet will still exist 😁
@@wariolandgoldpiramid oh jeez
(P.S. If you like the first two games go play Bug Fables)
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I watched your interview before, actually! Was more for the benefit of other viewers. ;)
Neat
Holy
This video is really difficult to watch. I know you guys put a lot of love into it but there's so many problems with it.
1. The intro had 2 songs together. TTYD story theme would've suffice. Also it felt rushed and disjointed you should've showed more footage of the games and let the TTYD music finish properly.
2. What you guys are saying doesn't match with what's going on screen. Like when you talk about Kooper and Bombette's abilities outside of battle you show footage of Jr. Troopa battle. Not to mention there's actual screenshots of the beta versions of PM64 which you can show.
3. Going back to music and sound, Kappy needs a better mic tbh. As for the music, it dosen't loop correctly not to mention there's not enough variety.
4. Even if the video is a lot longer add more info for all the games (specially PM64 and TTYD). It's a documentary afterall.
I'm not saying this to hate you guys or anything of the sort. I'm saying cause I know you guys have a much potential.
Quite honestly the writing overall is not good. It felt like they were just spouting out random facts with little cohesion, and mentioned things that weren't really important or noteworthy, like the crash glitch with Super Paper Mario. I agree that they need to go more in-depth, this time with more smooth transitions into each element of the games. Perhaps breaking the documentary into multiple videos for each game would've worked better.
Agreed
your choppy walking mario gif's hat cuts off at 0:42
marry oh
Yo it’s kappy!
Sad we still don't have a good new Paper Mario since Super Paper Mario. I guess Bug Fables will have to fill that void.
I liked Origami King. And that's coming from a person who played the OGs
@@oimenamesrick I do not understand that at all Rick. I mean, I'm glad you had some fun, but the game is just a slightly upgraded Stinker Star and Color Trash combo with some a handful of jabs at the fans who have been asking for a return to the older style of games.
@@Cerebrum123 You have a huge point right there. Honestly I think we are fucked because if we show it appreciation, then they might continue this trend of mediocrity, but if we openly bash it then they may just ditch Paper Mario. Maybe we're at a point where there isn't the right amount of communication put into this.
Don't get me wrong I loved the originals, and I really want the original styles and Parakarry back, but I am starting to doubt that we will see that again.
@@oimenamesrick Pretty much yeah. I have given up hope on a good Paper Mario game. I will only be giving them money on remasters of the good ones, and nothing on anything new until it can be at least as good as Bug Fables or Super Paper Mario.
@@Cerebrum123 Yikes, someone's still salty that most people liked TOK, eh?
This man pronounces it "Mario" and "Merio" at the same time.
MÆRIO
6:17 all in what?
Haha funny Kapper
WHO WERE THISE PEOPLE THAT SAID SPM'S STORY WASNT INTERESTING?!?
Idiots that's who
Less a documentary, more a series overview
Some infos are totally wrong but overall it's a good video.
Could you elaborate?
I loved this but game domain remember nobody cares if your f*cking first
1 minute in and i have to just say that having 2 soundtracks at once was very not pleasant (TTYD opening theme and Flipside - it's fine tho, lemme keep watching)
Super Paper Mario was the death of Paper Mario :)
Nope. The post-game was. (Figuratively) 😡
This honestly confirms my stance that the same fans who criticize the games now are the same ones who caused the recent paper mario games existence. Have Nintendo do another poll again, and I bet it will be drastically different. The Paper Mario Fanbase caused their own demise by their complaining of Super Paper Mario's story. My stance is that had the percentage been higher, they probably would have had the next 3 paper Mario games be even better than TTYD and Super. (heck, imagine if those games had the gimmick of the modern games but as battle effects. for example the paint gimmick is used as a way to either buff up attacks or alters how the RPG gimmick goes.
Oh well, I bet all those Paper Mario Fans who did that Club Nintendo poll are still kicking themselves for their screw ups.
I don't think the poll was even that big and probably only have few respondents.
@@zjzr08 but that poll is the cause of the why paper mario is at the state it is at now.
It's actually really sad, but I believe a small amount of the fan base was included in the poll.
Lets go!
I just wanna be the first one here to mention origami
Amen my nigga. I hope that it ends up being good T_T
I loved it
(My opinion of course)
this other guy in this video needs to use KRISP and not use a rock band mic
Honestly, about Paper Mario, I find TTYD overrated, with Super & Color Splash underrated with how they are treated by the fanbase. TTYD is treated as if it's the perfect game in history due to people wanting remakes of it, Super is treated as if it was a mistake because it's not the fan's beloved "TTYD 2", & Color Splash is treated like garbage though it tried to improve over Sticker Star's style since people wanted the game CANCELED the second it was announced.
I personally just like all 5 Paper Mario games. I liked Paper Mario and TTYD’s elements and gameplay, I liked Super’s chance of change of gameplay, going to a sort of Super Mario Brothers type gameplay. And I liked Sticker Star and Color Splash’s gameplay. I liked the Sticker and Card ideas, and the paint idea in Color Splash.
stfu squeaker. if you gonna defend those 2 shitty games. the series don't need you as fan.
@@UnDeAdSpRaYe No, YOU shut up, you rusty squeaker.
@Jay Casillas When will people like you learn that people have different tastes then you?
Me personally, there hasn’t been a Paper Mario game I haven’t enjoyed. One of my favorite series.
I'm surprised you didnt mention vivian being trans in the Japanese and European versions
the year is 2007. nigga what?
Do you understand at all what that was about?
No mention of Vivian being transgender in the Japanese version, but not the American? 😢
😭😭😭Lets face it, the TRUE Paper Mario RPG series and M&L series are dead, DEAD I’LL TELL YOU. 😭😭😭 When is the funeral?
We'll never know
Please stop starting the documentaries with "The year is 2007"
“Oh I don’t think so” - Obi-wan Kenobi
@@GameDomain ok
rofl you gotta be kidding me. Super Paper Mario being considered part of the "original trilogy"?? Yeah right, there is no original "trilogy" - it's just Paper Mario and then the Thousand-Year Door. Super Paper Mario was garbage, and honestly at least Sticker Star and Color Splash were an ounce closer to the originals than shitty SPM. I love how this "objective" documentary comments on the positive remarks some had for fucking SPM and also comments on the negatives SS and CS get. Fucking joke. Fuck SPM.
SPM has mixed reception, it wasn't universally hated.
wariolandgoldpiramid it was the first game to ruin the formula. There are more people that dislike SPM than you’d think too
Super Paper Mario is the worst one in the series. Doesn't even belong in the series. It fucked the entire franchise.
Super Paper Mario was actually the first BAD entry in the series. Ruined the franchise. I don't understand why idiots can't see that.
Because only your opinion matters. And why couldn’t this all be in 1 comment? You being triggered at a video game could have all just been one comment. And there was barely any personal opinions in this. It’s the facts about the franchise, that’s it.
@@GameDomain Well biased "facts" I mean you're reporting on the negatives of SS and CP without really dwelling on the fact that SPM was completely different from the original form of the franchise and was the first game to demolish its original formula. You're picking and choosing which facts of peoples' opinions to discuss. SPM was totally different from the older titles and had a horrible art style. Can't believe you responded to one of my comments lol. People should just acknowledge that SPM is what killed the franchise.
You’re acting very high and mighty like everyone should agree with your or they are wrong. Most people like SPM, maybe not as much as the first 2 games but it is overall well liked. And dude, you need to chill. You are getting angry at a video game. Maybe just try to relax, play a game you like. You clearly are fuming at the thought of other people liking SPM, just forget about other people’s opinions. It literally could not have less of an effect on you. Let people enjoy the games they want
Game Domain Sorry pal but it’s the damn internet I can say whatever I want. It just baffles me that so many people are okay with SPM when it was the first game to destroy the formula. Honestly it’s mechanics suck, are boring, and headache inducing. I agree that SS and CS are flawed with their combat systems but at least they’re not a damn eye sore. I just can’t understand how “most” people like SPM. I don’t really think “most” do but of course that’s always reflected in any video that covers the franchise.
Well what if I said I can’t understand why you think SPM is an eye sore? You’re saying “since I don’t like it, no one can like it or they’re wrong”.