How Will Changing Teams Affect Shohei Ohtani's Cards?!
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- čas přidán 12. 11. 2023
- Shohei Ohtani is one of the most important sports figures in baseball history. For this reason, Ohtani's baseball cards have commanded an extremely heft price tag the last few years. One thing that is uncertain however is how his baseball cards will fare now that he is potentially changing teams and dealing with a second Tommy John. In this video we discuss Ohtani, Juan Soto, and others. We also discuss our biggest sports card losses up to this point.
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But now the pressure begins to mount!! Haha
Know exactly what Chris is referring to w/ FOMO. Def hard to overcome but once you let it pass you end up thanking yourself later. Good insight, appreciate you all sharing those stories, we've all been there!
Absolutely! The feeling of relief/accomplishment when you can get past it is incredible. AND, if you can get the same cards enter for cheaper, even better!!
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Ohtani as a Mariner is my dream 😭😭🥺🥺
Not impossible! Seattle ownership knows the. Value of an international superstar AND that team has a good core in place.
You all keep up the videos. Great to watch and hear your discussion. Thanks
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T-Pott I love the Ohtani to the Mariners angle, I hate the hating the Mets angle (I'm unbiased and also a Mets fan)
Haha - understood. Chris here - as a Braves fan I hate hearing any names coming coming to the NL East.
I don’t think the Mets are in the position Ohtani is looking for, but we’ll see.
What about Alonso? I spoke very highly of him in an episode we’ll drop next week - you think Mets extend him?
I like the Mariners as the coolest spot for Ohtani.
That would be incredible!
He could really build a legacy there - Ohtani and Ichiro
I saw a post yesterday where Ohtani said that winning is a bigger factor in him choosing his next team then destination. I like to see players who are looking to compete to win and not just show up to look good for tv. Money can't buy championships as you can see by the two smaller market teams that were in the world series. Where will he go? I don't know baseball well enough even to speculate, but I am interested to find out and follow him on his journey.
Yes for sure! And he’s going to get paid a lot anyway. When it’s $400 million vs $500 million, how much does the difference in money matter?? Seems clear that Ohtani would take lesser money for a better chance at a ring.
Yep, he has had enough of losing. He’s sick of it.
Hopefully he can put a contender over the top!
There’s just something absolutely special when 4 grown men talk about pictures of other grown men on paper or chromium stock.
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And we debate vigorously which picture of other men we like best!
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@@SpitballinCards I am 48 years old and 40 years later I still am. I was basically poking fun at myself for still doing so…..btw I obviously watch you guys and Scottie B on CZcams
I CAN ATTEST that entry level Shohei Ohtani has taken much more of a hit than his higher end stuff. Some of his PSA 10 entry level Rookie cards were up in the $500 - 1000 range back in late June - Early July so that is nothing to sneeze at. Even like $250 ++ for the most common of his rookie cards. I should know, I sent 17 different 2018 Ohtani base Rookies into PSA as a bulk back in early July. Bad timing for me because the injury happened while they were being graded. Got them back in September, 14 out of 17 came back at PSA 10! Why am I not happy about that? Because I ended up selling these for only 30% of what they sold for at the peak of early July. That's a 70% drop from the peak on his PSA 10 entry level rookie stuff. My 2 cents. Also, I feel like this is the perfect time to buy. More than half of the cards I sold on ebay were shipped out to Japan. Don't forget about those Japanese fans that are huge Shohei Collectors. My advice for anyone buying this new Ohtani dip.... If you can realize 2x or 3x or 4x in the future when he is pitching and hitting lights out again in the same season, that will be the time to save 2 or 3 of your favorite and dump the rest. There is still good profits in Ohtani, next new high peak should come in about 2 years.
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Just watching this today and you guys were spot-on regarding where Soto and Ohtani would likely end up. As far as their card prices go, I think we’re witnessing some irrational exuberance. Thanks for the episode!
“Irrational exuberance” is a big theme in today’s hobby!!
I wished and thought Ohtani would have picked my Mariners from the time he arrived, but if he goes I'm all for it not sure we(Mariners) would shell out that type of money though unless he chooses to waive some $$ which I wouldn' t rule out since he came here and took less money before age 25. My thoughts on Trout.... I honestly hope he stays an Angel although I do feel bad he hasn't made it to a World Series but no matter what team he goes to its never a guarantee. I'd care more about his legacy and that will continue to keep him relevant in the hobby especially if he continues adding to his already impressive resume. Almost similar to Ken Griffey Jr. I honestly did not like that he chose the Reds (although I understood his choice for doing so) his cards still sell no matter what because he was popular and well liked (like Trout) and once he returned to Seattle it just felt right. I don't want Trout to go somewhere else and be on the decline almost similar to Griffey just to get a ring. Like Tony Gwynn (although he made it to a World Series) his legacy as Mr. Padre still stands and his stuff still sells. Just my opinion though a little old school thought.
I get that. I think Griffeys mariners cards still
Outsell any of his Reds cards - and not just because of the rookies.
I’d just hate for trout to never taste October baseball again. He’ll always be thought of as an Angel, but some big postseason moments with the Phillies, Braves or Mets would definitely add to his legacy.
Ohtani could still choose Seattle - if any ownership knows the value of international stardom, it’s the Mariners.
I’m a Mariners fan too, no way he picks the M’s. They won’t give out the money. To be honest the M’s are the A’s the only difference is all of us fans haven’t figured it out yet.
Say it ain't so.... don't believe that non sense we are not the A's 😂. True the Mariners aren't dishing out that kind of money (still can't believe they did that for Cano - smh) but any combination of either a veteran ace or speedy high avg/contact hitter or above average power hitter & most important team chemistry we can make it to the ALCS. The Triton was a nice touch!@@khure711
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Chris' various facial expressions are my fav. "Baseballcardcollector." lol
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I’m Glad you noticed that Scottie called me the wrong name! I thought maybe he was just describing me, but he got everybody else right!
Clearly, there’s some anger he’s repressing. Maybe he knows I don’t have any billy butler cards.
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Soto’s plate discipline + Judge hitting behind him + short porch in RF = potentially big power numbers.
I guess we’ll find out! But it sure seems like a perfect storm for Soto
Great show Hermanos. Keep pumping the shows out.
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Ohtani is the Jordan of Baseball
who's the Ohtani of baseball?
@@simondaughtry4619 Babe Ruth!!!! The Great Bambino!
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Wishing Ohtani would sign with the Mariners… I knew I liked T-Pott.
My worst investment: I built a Hunter Harvey Bowman 1st Auto Rainbow. All BGS 9.5/10. Could have sold for 2x profit and held them all. Sold for a loss.
My best: bought a Fernando Tatis Jr Rookie Debut Orange /25 for $115 raw. Graded and sold for $4k a while later.
Ohtani, Trout and Soto going to Detroit. It's gunna be great.
Javy Baez to cleanup..... :)
@@simondaughtry4619 legit laughed hard at that one.
Lol lol
I think most people are tired of all the Ohtani news, As of today Ohtani appears to be interested in EVERY team except Colorado……for now.
Personally, I would love to see him as a Brewer, launching balls out of that park!
Well, we know he warns to go to a team that can win, so that does rule out Colorado.
But man, the stats he could put up hitting at Coors!!
Ohtani and Judge on the same team 👀 I agree not happening but Soto wouldn't be a bad consolation!
Soto in that ballpark… 😳
It’s easy to envision huge numbers from Soto in Yankee stadium.
ohtani perfect fit for the cubs
Are the cubs close enough to contention for Ohtani??
That fan base would LOVE Ohtani.
My 2 biggest losses are both Mickey Mantle cards. around 2015 I got into a spot and need money and had to sell a perfectly centered PSA 7 1957 Mantle and a perfectly centered PSA 8 1960 Mantle. Got $900 for the 1957 and $1300 for the 1960.
You never forget those losses! But there's more opportunities to seek and redeem yourself. Good luck
@@MGsac98252 Thanks. I'd love to get both card in those grades again, but they've gone up 4-5 times in price. Maybe someday.
Unfortunately real life does get in the way of our collecting from time to time. If the cards helped get you out of a jam, then that’s great and I wouldn’t hang my head about it.
@@SpitballinCards True, but I have an extra kidney which is not nearly as cool as Mantle cards.
As a Yankee fan I'd rather go after pitchers. They will continue to struggle with only one pitcher they can rely on. They have the bats but are injury plagued.
As a Yankees fan, I disagree. Their offense was abysmal last year, and their biggest issue was OBP. Soto fixes that right away.
Yeah, statistically the bats were definitely NOT there. Judge - when healthy - was on a island surrounded by mediocrity at best.
Cashman has really reeks havoc on that roster.
Good news for Yankees fans is they have a near bottomless pit of cash so no reason they can’t trade for Soto, extend him and sign a big SP.
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I know people wants Trout out of LA but where can he go? He’s making a lot making a lot of money plus he’s a little over 30 so how many teams can afford him and also which market can his card prices go up.
That’s the big question, right?
Along with this - how much if his deal will Moreno be willing to eat in order to get value in return?
It makes a trade unlikely, but angels are going NOWHERE. If they’d eat $100mil, I bet a team like I billy would give a big prospect.
We shall see.
I would personally say ohtani is a sell when he chooses his new team. He will only DH this year and if he starts out slow or doesn’t have a hitting season like he did last year, his prices will drop ever further. They might rebound when he pitches again, but who knows if he will be the same pitcher. It took him 2 years to recover from TJ last time. Not to mention the dodgers are cursed in October. If that’s where he ends up going
Valid points. If you bought in pre-2021, lots of profits to be had!
Scott and Ty v. Chris and Phil in a cage fight. Who wins? Gingers or Geezers?
Ty might be older than me. Lol.
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I think we're overlooking just how special Ohtani has already been?
No doubt he’s been phenomenal. Just some hobby concerns about him being one dimensional going forward. I am confident that he will come back and pitch. And pitch effectively. So maybe some softness in his cards until he proves he can do that?
This is a hobby wide issue. Collectors continue to be more driven by what could be rather than what already is or was.
These three years from Ohtani have been unlike anything we’ve ever seen in baseball. Truly phenomenal.
The biggest loss stories are nothing new. If youre a collector it can hapoen. I'm not a flipper. I held onto some cards way too long unfortunately but at least I kept my 18 Bowman and Topps sealed wax.
2018 Sealed Wax is like gold! Nice work 💪🏼
Great job with that 2018 sealed wax !!
I do not have the willpower for that
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Phil is correct. Mets fans are rabid card collectors. Ohtani to Mets would be a boon (it will be ok T-Pott!!)
New York is obviously a huge market - but are the Mets Contenders in 2024??
@@SpitballinCards sure, why not! They have a good core to build around in the Texas model.
Never have I seen such a big deal being made of an injury prone jack of all trades master of none with a career .272 batting average.🙄
Hard to imagine a worse take. The guy has earned every accolade and then some. He's better than 95% of players just as a hitter, and brings hordes of (international) fans with him wherever he goes.
Wow - that might be worst description of Ohtani I’ve ever heard.
So you’d rather have Arraez on your team for the high BA?
Your biggest loss stories are fun. Sorry.
Geoff Wilson bought half a million dollars of select FB a few years back.... bet you loved that one :))
Everybody has them and misery does love company.
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Ohtani and Soto to Atlanta! Rack him!