History Summarized: Old West Outlaws
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- čas přidán 17. 05. 2018
- Outlaws are a key component of the Wild West mythos, but they weren't as common as Western movies make them out to be. Still, History has left us with some pretty sweet characters.
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Is it weird this video made them far cooler in my mind
AlternateHistoryHub Not at all
*yesn't
AlternateHistoryHub the most prolific commenter short of Justin y
Nope
If you're not watching this while twirling a revolver you're missing out.
Ignore that it's plastic, just enjoy the moment.
YOUR revolver is plastic
Butch Cassidy's sister claimed that he died in the Spokane County Poor Farm in Spangle, WA, in 1927. Not nearly as dramatic as fighting the entire Argentine army.
Yes she is my great grandmother. And I was told by my dad that she wrote book about this. I think it's called my brother Butch Cassidy
@@capybaramtg3438 So Butch Cassidy is your great granduncle? Or is it great great granduncle?
@@alexiswelsh5821 got the greats wrong sorry. He was my great great great uncle, as you said.
The last days of the Old West are pretty fascinating in general. A massive shift in economic and social structures had been slowly occurring for a while but quite a few people were unable to cope with the change. You ended up with strange occurrences like the thoroughly "Western" US Cavalry expedition against Poncho Villa at the same time as WWI was showing the world industrialized warfare on a massive scale for the first time.
And curiously enough, the last Medal of Honor awarded for the Indian Wars was earned by a Medic of the 3rd Infantry Regiment in Minnesota. It's up by Red Lake and is named Battle (I think, I've never been there, yet).
*wild west mythology*
Gahd Sarn it, he's on Red's turf again!
🎶 _Ghost riders in the sky_ 🎶
Lumberjack mythology is a thing too, check out the Fearsome Critters page on Wikipedia!!
But not d[q~"][q~"]one by Red
@@MagusMarquillin
We got'd dun diddly doo sumtin' 'bout dat dere, old pal!
But I thought Billy the Kid was defeated by Lucky Luke! How could comics lie to me?!
There's also that time he fought Dracula that they never mention.
This Comic was a good one.
Woah I didn't know that many people heard of Lucky Luke it's not really known in the States and I only know about cause I took a French class
What a shame! La ballade des Dalton and Daisytown are alltime Classics and one of my favorit Movies in my Childhood. I would feel realy said if the Franchise get lost in time.
Sunaki1000 They tried to show a Lucky Luke movie in French class...but it was pretty controversial when set piece after set piece was just weird racial stereotypes as musical numbers. So instead we watched Le Petit Nicolas or Mon Oncle.
Sure, Robin Hood may have never stolen a pair of jeans and a pie while also being revered for giving the money he stole from the rich to the poor, but at least Butch Cassidy used his stolen riches to ultimately invent the modern day pool lounge chair.
Also Butch Cassidy actually existed.
What I learned from this video is that at least the barfights were real ;p
People tend to get in more fights when alcohol is involved? Color me surprised.
Go to any university town bar. Bar fights are the thing that haven't changed.
They still are
So a group selfie contributed to the downfall of Butch Cassidy
selfies:ruining lives since(when was the photo taken?)
If you think that’s mad, Dirk Turpin (a famous English hywayman from the 1700s) was done in when he sent a letter to his brother and his handwriting was recognised by a Postmaster.
not a selfie
Did he ever pay the IOU though?
Mr. Bubbles likely not, Blue did say "stole"
I think conducting a transaction without the other party's consent counts as "stole."
IDK
Red's horses are looking nice! Very noticeable improvement!
Yoooo I'm from Argentina! And you can actually go visit Butch Cassidy's cabin! There's still a dispute going on between land owners on who owns the cabin, but when that gets sorted they may actually restore it and make it an official museum!
why they went to argentina why not china or russia
Fernando Aguirre I can't say for sure, but probably because we're a country that's very open to immigrants (it's literally in our constitution) and in the early 1900s there were a lot of pro-immigration bills passed: the boarders has just been expanded a considerable ammount, and since the economy was oriented around agricultural exports, the government wanted to increace the population of able bodied workers to fulfill the demands of 1st world countries that bought our produce. So, to sweeten the deal, they added a bunch of perks, such as handing out lands to the newly arrived immigrants. So my best guess is that they came here because they got free lands in a place not many would think of looking in, with the added bonus that they probably didn't have to pass a background check.
That's actually pretty cool.
Argentina had a booming economy circa 1900 so there was money and a fair number of the immigrants were British. A cousin of one of my ancestors is one such, emigrated sans family when he was 16 in 1864 and I suspect some of his descendants are still in Argentina (he definitely married and had kids). In China American outlaws would generally be fairly obvious and Imperial Russia had a fairly good police system.
Erp yup! The immigrants helped in bettering the economy. And there's still a bunch of villas/cities here: Swiss, German, and some British (since they were the ones that built the railroads that still run -for turists- to this day) scattered around Patagonia. There's a Welsh city called Gaiman (and they even teach gaelic in their schools)
I can't stop seeing that space between the bookshelf and wall now. I'm glad you argued against the whole social banditry thing (Robin Hood). That's one of my pet peeves. Great stuff, and a nice change of pace from your more ancient-history focus. For more material along your perspective, I'd suggest reading _The Great American Outlaw_ by Prassel. Being a Western historian myself though, there's a lot I want to say about this, so allow me to be a silly pedant:
When speaking of Billy the Kid, it's insinuated that he was the leader of the opposition to the Murphy-Dolan faction ("The House" because their store was Murphy's house), but the Turnstall-Chisum faction was lead by McSween after Turnstall was killed. While Billy fought on the McSween side, he had been a member of the Evans Gang prior (who fought on the side of the The House). Billy was basically the equivalent of a Lieutenant. It was only after the war that he faced serious charges were brought against him, because the governor had issued a general amnesty for the combatants. My favorite book on him is Robert Utley's _Billy the Kid,_ though he is more famous for the book he wrote on the entire war called _High Noon in Lincoln._
Judge William Rynerson was not responsible for the pardon. Billy had been promised it by governor Wallace, who had been appointed because of rising violence in NM. Unfortunately, it seems Wallace was too busy writing _Ben Hur_ to issue the promised pardon. BTW, judges can't issue pardons, they can only vacate previous rulings.
That picture at 2.40 is heavily disputed. The shear amount of claimed Kid photos is astounding, but only one has any veracity to it (the one where people were led to believe that he was left handed, but hilariously that's because of the way tin-types are made - Hollywood even made a movie from that misconception). An excellent article recently came out in _True West_ about this. Having talked to that magazine's publisher, he deals with even more claimed photos than the article lets on. It's actually quite a problem for Western historians, or local ones like my father, who are bombarded with these things. So it's best not to encourage these folks. They get pretty vicious when you tell them "no."
At 6.40 that map is really strange. NM/AZ split in 1863, but the Dakota Territory didn't until 1868 (when Wyoming was split off) and 1889. So NM/AZ being one and the same while WY/ND/SD are separate is anachronistic.
My specialty is Western violence, so excuse the pedantry. Good job nonetheless.
When I heard him talk about Robin Hood I IMMEDIATELY thought back to your video on the subject.
The Billy the kid avoiding the cavalry thing is way more interesting because supposedly the crazy idiot rode his horse through gatling gun fire and got out unscathed. Considering the time period mentioned I kinda wanna see something on crazy horse or geronimo. Maybe sitting bull. Albeit those are pretty depressing stories.
"Cavalry", not "Calvary". Two entirely different things. 8-)
Siesta Time Thanks mate. Just fixed it.
not that surprising when you consider how shitty guns where back then, shoothing a moving horse would have been a feat. most gun wounds were survivable , you were more likely to die from the infection than the wound , the bullets back then didn´t even go that deep and could only harm at a very short distance.
J. Huh, I knew they were bad, but I didn't think it was that bad. Though honestly you'd think he'd still get hit considering bullet to air ratio.
Christian Mihalcin, I'd caution you (as a period weapons demonstrator and collector)... Only some of J.'s complaints have much validity...
The cap-and-ball era was closing down in the 1850's, but took until nearly 1890, to collapse all together (setbacks like the Am. Civil War) and give way to Smith's brass cartridges and breech-loading repeaters...
In any case, the general ballistics of most "conventional" firearms of the day (1850-1890) are actually not terribly different from today's average. Sure in a caliber for caliber contest, the modern equivalent will hands-down beat the antique in performance, BUT most of that is for reloading conveniences (speed-loaders, semi-auto-magazine boxes, rapid-box reloading machines, etc...)... There's something to be pointed out about GUN SIGHT technology too, but a competent gun-smith of the day could "sight in" a weapon to a sight as accurately as we do today, and even the techniques aren't usually so much different...
NOW, the big drawback on the Gatling was actually two-fold. Technically it was a machine-gun, and by that definition a high capacity, rapid fire weapon... BUT...
1. The magazine full of rounds was gravity fed, meaning it was on TOP of the weapon and thus, interfered with the sights and "sight picture"...
2. It was still MANUALLY fired, meaning a "gunner" had to try to both aim this monstrosity AND crank the firing mechanism to reload, fire, eject spent casing, reload, fire...repeat... repeat...
Now, with a modern technology, this wouldn't be horrible, but consider that the original Gatling was ALL steel construction, had multiple full-sized rifle barrels, and rotated all those barrels on ONE hub in a gear-to-gear mechanism involved with the firing of each round in succession, and you have a VERY heavy crank to labor around if you want to accomplish anything that resembles "Aiming" the gun...
The experience is bordering "awful"...
I would be derelict in my exposition here, if I didn't point out another technique involved in Gunnery... A competent (practiced and experienced) gunner knows how to "aim off the last"... Meaning he can watch his "bullet spray" and tell where the projectiles are hitting as opposed to where he intends, adjusting the weapon's position to compensate. This is why it's important to militaries around the world to get "tracer" ammunition loaded into rapid-fire weapons along with the regular stuff. Tracers are tipped with a phosphorus material that glows as the bullet travels, so the gunners can actually see where they are shooting... AND yes, most of the time they're at least sort-of visible in daylight, too. Being able to see the stream of bullets heading "down-range" is incredibly helpful, but even without that, one can tell by "splash" where the bullets hit a majority of the time with a machine gun... even a Gatling.
However, the Gatling was the FIRST... SO there weren't any books about it, other than a primitive instruction manual by the inventor. Nobody had thought of "tracers"... AND there were no competent machine gunners in the military either. There were a few guys who'd managed to get more than a hundred rounds through the thing without killing themselves, their comrades, or damaging the gun... and that was about as good as it got.
I still wouldn't recommend standing in front of a man with a cap-and-ball pistol of any equivalent. They claim it's been survived historically, but it's just not a good idea... Infection vs. Wound... well, you don't get no deader no matter what kills you. ;o)
Butch Cassidy is basically who Dutch Plan Der Linde pretends to be, the kinda cool, fair, level headed type outlaw with a code, etc.
Robin Hood: Steal from the rich and give to the poor.
These guys: Steal from the rich and give to the *me*
Miscellaneous myth on Orion, please.
Bryguy150 what's there to tell? He's a brainless hunter who was stung on the foot by a scorpion and died a silly death because he pissed off Apollo.
Kensei Hayabusa He was also the only guy that got Artemis to fall in love with him.
Bryguy150 Not the kind of love that most people would think of. It was more of a "friendzoned" kind of love.
Kensei Hayabusa Really? In the myth I heard (not trying to start an argument, just explaining what I heard), Artemis DID love him romantically, and nearly convinced her to give up her vow of chastity, and that Apollo killed him so that he could protect his sister’s innocence.
Bryguy150 I was under the impression that he was just jealous because he had some kind of twincest complex, which would have been normal for Greek gods.
Butch Cassidy and the Wild Bunch to me is the closest real life counterpart to the Vanderlinde Gang and their leader Dutch Vanderlinde. From Butch’s intelligence, to his charisma to those who don’t wrong him, and his inevitable downfall (taking his own life, and his protégé), the similarities are so striking.
I actually live in the town where The Sundance Kids got his name. In fact, they've capitalized on this fact and is now a semi-popluar tourist place (Also no it's not the same town where the Sundance Film Festival is)
The film festival is at Park City, Utah . Is your town called Sundance?
@@BradyPostma Yes it is which is why people think it's where the festival is 😓
@@fullmetalfangirl12 Do you know how the town got its name? Because that's a fascinating name.
@@BradyPostma Yeah it's named after the Sun Dance that's practiced by some native American tribes (and I also know the main tribe from the area are the Crow)
The image at 6:59 is SO cool!
I grew up in Eastern Utah where Butch Cassidy and his gang rode though often- called the Outlaw Trail. They were well know and liked in the area. It was also home to a few other characters like Josie Basset who ran a cattle ranch and was as tough as needed on the job during the day and a lovely lady at night. My town (at least for a while-I don't know if they still do) capitalized on that (and dinosaurs) for tourism and produced a new show each summer telling the tales of these local people.
Butch Cassidy sounds like he'd be an interesting person to hang out with for an evening
Moral of the story, don't do crime, and if you do, do crime, don't later do something stupid that will likely end up with you being caught for easily avoidable reasons.
Loved the inclusion of Red's drawings in this History Summarized. Could you possibly do this in more history videos?
Hello. Your channel came across my recommended list and I am so glad that it did. I've spent far too much of my free time the past two days, frankly, devouring your videos. Somewhere along the way I became a subscriber. I just wanted to take a moment and thank you for the incredibly entertaining and informative videos. You both are amazing!
Wanted to mention, I love how you use Age of Mythology music for your history talks.
One of my favourite videos of yours is the pirates summary, and this one was just as interesting! Although I do love the ancient history vids you do, it’d also be great to see more of the modern stuff too!
"Aspiring mustache farmer" 🤯😂🤣
Will you be doing sheriffs like Wyatt Earp next?
roblox kitty girl or bat Masterson
20 men would try to beat em 20 men would make a slip 21 would be the ranger with the ranger with the big iron on his hip
According to legend, Butch Cassidy made it out and lived the rest of his days in my hometown
In the late 1990's a documentary called "digging up Butch and Sundance" was made and the purported graves opened and bodies exhumed, the DNA from the bodies matched neither the Parker or Longabaugh family.
I’m as much of a filthy classicist as the next, but this has to be my favorite History Summarized. 11/10 would rob again.
Wild West Outlaws? Have you thought about Aussie Bush Rangers?
One of my ancestor's relatives was a cool one, pretty much Butch Cassidy, but also combined with MacGyver's MacGyvering skills. Johnny Cash even wrote a song on him. Name was Ned Kelly.
Almost 400k, congrats guy! :D
HE COULD'VE KEPT ON LIVIN, BUT HE MADE ONE FATAL SLIP
HE TRIED TO MATCH THE RANGER WITH THE BIG IRON ON HIS HIP
red's art is friggin GORGEOUS!
Congratulations on 400k!!!
Just the facts. Very nice work.
3:30 So did Butch Cassidy ever pay that "I owe you" back?
Thank you for making this! Ive loved the wild west since I was little
This was interesting, and helped with a project I am doing for school. Thanks!
Did cassidy ever got revenge against the first judge , the one who depossesed his family of his lands ?
I like that age of mythology background music!! So nostalgic :) and the video was great also!
Ned Kelly (hope I spelled that right) was kind of like robin hood (with more dead cops and cool armor)
Let´s not forget that they all either got bested or got saved by Silas Greaves. I know this because video games
This was great guys. You should do more outlaws and mobster videos.
I'd like to give credit to OSP for helping me write my book. You guys are an irreplaceable resource. Seriously.
Well this was perfectly timed as I'm, at this moment, taking my first trip though the west! Thanks guys!
I learned from John McPhee that Cassidy probably survived all the hijinks in South America and made it back north. He may have had some primitive facial reorganization surgery to hide, but revealed himself to his family's doctor who recognized a distinctive scar he had given Cassidy years before.
Holy crap Butch Cassidy built a hotel in my tiny home town in Argentina... That's so fucking cool and makes me so happy for some reason
Blue did something modern! And he did such a good job of it too :)
alge of mythology soundtrack used in background, love it!
"Latter-day outlaw" I see what you did there
Nice to see relatively modern history on History summarized :)
7:57 As a spaniard, I love that he's speaking with grammar mistakes because he can't really speak spanish. Nice detail.
Ooh, history summerized. I need that
Talk about the Gold Rushes and the characters that bled from the woodwork there! It’s full of characters like Soapy Smith!
May show this to my dad, since he’s really into the cowboy lifestyle. I like this. This is fascinating.
I live in the southwest and I loved hearing about all these people it reminded me of talking to my grandpa about the old south
"The out laws of the old west were as much of a threat to it as Loki is to New York. Which is to say not very likely."
Me: " But what you're saying is there's a chance."
Hey um can you do a bit of summary of the overall Japanese mythology
YES! YYEESS!!!
That's a major feat. I literally tried to summarize a single holiday for Mythology class. Even with an hour-long lecture I skimmed merely the surface of that holiday's meaning. And man oh man, is Japanese mythology crazy. I'd say it's have to be a series.
Purely to do the mythology justice, I mean.
I would love to hear you guys summarize Emperor Norton!
Completely off-topic but I recently rewatched your African History video and I'm surprised you didn't mention the Mandinka or Bakongo empires.
alphai yeah summarising the history of a continent that rich in history means things will be left out. He did a whole episode on ancient Egypt so maybe he will do more African kingdoms and nations too?
Nor the makmende
alphai he also left out wakanda
Damn, I need to rewatch Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid again XD I love that movie a lot.
Also: out of the five billion different Jesse James movies, which one would you recommend?
And for Billy the Kid: I really, really love the Sam Peckinpah movie, even with all its flaws. James Coburn should have gotten an Oscar for Garrett, no one did world-weary and Done With Everything like him.
You REALLY should do a video about Ned Kelly, the coolest Australian outlaw I know. Most likely because he is the ONLY Australian outlaw I know.
Henry Anderson wouldn’t that also make him the lamest Australian outlaw you know?
Fun fact, I live where the Jessie James movie was filmed! We have a street named after him, and a Jessie James Day!
While watching I was notified about the new paradox game. Good day it is
That Age of Mythology music though
Ironically I literally just was in a western JH play about the old west today. One of the songs talked about these people, also the play was actually pretty good.
SOMETHING DIFFERENT! YES! FINALLY!
actually, there are multiple accounts of what may have happened to Butch Cassidy, It's been a while since I read the book with the reference, so the details may not be that accurate. But there is a rumor that Butch Cassidy went back to Utah and survived until 1933.
When is the "Journey to the West" continueing?
Chris Ghelen we all know its coming in 10 years
Good news from the future! It IS continuing! Just at the same glacial-but-brilliant pace as ever! (It's worth the wait.)
Aaah Wild West is one of my favourites!
Disappointed in the lack of Black Bart, but thoroughly satisfied with the depth on Cassidy
REQUEST: Would it be possible to make a video focusing on Cleisthenes and his achievements? In particular when compared to Solon and Pericles.
Do more American history stuff. This was awesome!
Yes! The West is full of colorfull and crazy People. Like the Story of
Joshua Norton
Sunaki1000 not just the West. The early frontiersmen like Daniel Boone led incredible lives that aren’t well known. The revolution and civil war also have lesser known stories and events related to them that could make interesting videos.
I go to school in the town of the Jesse James bank robbery and there’s a festival and re-enactment every year
molly sandweiss any Team Rocket guys show up?
@@joshuahadams OH MY GOD, I just realized that's why their names are Jessie and James. **Mind blown**
Aegix Drakan
Jessie & James
Butch & Cassidy
Annie & Oakley
Team Rocket pairs are pretty much just big Old West names
Wow I really enjoyed this!
May I suggest you do a mafia related one?
I’m so early my state isn’t even a state yet
Yay! A history video about cowboys!
Well, if I wasn't excited for Red Dead 2 BEFORE watching this...
Man, what a great video. I live in Utah and I remember hearing a lot about Butch Cassidy in Beaver.
Also I totally listened to Ecstacy of Gold after this video.
EDIT: Also imagine what kind of wild adventures they would have had if he DID learn Spanish.
Prepare for trouble.
And make it double.
To protect the world from devastation.
To unite all peoples within our nation.
To denounce the evils of truth and love.
To extend our reach to the stars above.
Jessie James.
Billy the Kid.
Team outlaw blast off at the speed of light!
Surrender now or prepare to fight!
Butch Cassidy: Why do you two do that before every robbery? Why did I even team up with you guys?
You're supposed to say Cassidy that's right...
This was a long time coming.
Wyoming approved!
You should do a video on Australian Bushrangers next. At least there, you have an actual person with distinct Robin Hood connections like Ned Kelly.
You mentioned the Pinkerton Detective Agency. Do you think you'll ever make a video on them?
I've been waiting
Every time I hear Butch Cassidy's name, I smile because my name is Cassidy.
Are you also pretty butch?
Nah
since this is essentially a fairly local part of history, have you ever looked into the Buckriders?
they were basically an 18th century gang/ group of gangs that r pretty famous where i live (which is Flanders, Belgium)
Lasnight didn't they make a suske & wiske comic of them? I think I heard of it before
EMI V idunno, wouldnt surprise me tho, ive already seen some other books based on the buckriders, we also have a statue of a guy in a cape riding a goat (a visibly male one) not too far from my home and theres a liquor named after them...
Age Of Mythology background music, nice
Yes i love history
Alias Smith and Jones was a 70's TV show with the premise that Butch and Sundance both survived and because they weren't killers they were turned over to the US authorities and works as turn of the Century PIs. If you can find it it's worth a watch.
Butch Cassidy is literally one of my heroes. I'm a Utahn and i'm proud to have him from here.
Didn't the James gang hit up a fair few places in Kansas?
I know the Eskridge, KS bank was robbed by one of those famous outlaw gangs (can't remember which one).
You should do one on Australien outlaws, way mpre fun.
Talk about the Oregon trail. I think that's a great part of history if you talking about the west.
Have you guys considered doing a video on Ned Kelly?
How can you mention outlaws without mentioning Silas greaves? : ^)
0:46 PREPARE FOR TROUBLE!
AND MAKE IT DOUBLE!
Red needs to do Grimm’s fairytales!!!!