Pawn Stars: RIDICULOUSLY RARE Photo of OUTLAW Jesse James (Season 5) | History
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- Rick calls in an expert to authenticate the “holy grail” of cowboy items - Jesse James Tintype photos, in this clip from Season 5, "James Gang Rides Again."
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"Pawn Stars" follows three generations of the Harrison family as they assess the value of items coming in and out of their Gold & Silver Pawn Shop in Las Vegas, from the commonplace to the truly historic. - Zábava
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Hi
nice click bait title
What about Billy the kid
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I think it's possible they were, should of had them examined by computer facial analysis system rather than the museum dude guesstimating.
nah, an algorithm can be faulty
@@Nurmengard belive it or not humans can be faulty too 😯😯😯
I'm pretty sure they do more than enough research on the items before filming the episodes. It's hard to believe they would determine they're not them just by quickly examining them. That's not how appraisals work.
Yeah but does he have a “guy” for that
Unfortunately without provenance it's unlikely that a newly found tin type will ever be accepted as the real deal. There have been photos in recent years that have been matched by computer facial recognition to the one famous Billy the Kid tin type, but since it isn't possible to trace their ownership, they aren't generally accepted as authentic Billy the Kid pictures - just really old pictures of some unidentified dude.
That said, I know this is a tv show, but expecting the museum guy to just walk in and make a positive identification with the naked eye is pretty laughable.
whenever Rick says something is the holy grail of whatever it is, it's not.
There are times where it is
He's got a store full of holy grails.
@@lazer2365 true
"This is the holy grail of the Middle Ages" literally the actuall holy grail.
Agreed. in my opinion he didn't give enough sufficient reasons to reject those pics
Mark: "You hardly ever see any photos of the James gang in existence"
Also Mark: "But i can tell you how close his ears were to his eyes"
There is only one mona lisa, everyone still knows what she looks like... so what’s your point? lol
Exactly, disputable on that point alone.
Makes no sense
It only really needs to be one
Mark is a fraud he's been busted for being a fraud a few years ago
Everybody's ears are lined up with their eyes,the person on the photo had his head tilted down,that's why they apear higher than the eyes.I cannot believe the 'expert' said that.
Title should be ridiculously rare photos not of Jesse James
Most photos are not of Jesse James lol
Then views will be low.
Then it wouldn't be click bait.
Yeah, they're pretty good at clickbaiting
History channell is the click bait kings
The seller looks like the Magician Expert 💀
Little Known Fact: the historian waited outside the pawn shop and offered the man $12,000 for the photos.
That's neato, thank you :)
Any link for that?
I really wish they did a follow up to see if the guy was able to sell them or not
@@Thegaoat that would take them out of their recording budget... but with funding, they might do it
He doesnt appraise or give prices, only accepts donations?
Neil Patrick Harris from Harold and kumar time traveled, trying to sell some photos😄
Looking for white castle 👍
He looks nothing like Barney from How I Met Your Mother.
No he didn't.
Your link to Neil Patrick Harris is Harold and Kumar..... Not How I met your mother, or for us old folk Doogie Howser?
@@ericluchinski same actor
What an absurdly unexpert analysis.
I'd definitely start looking for a 2nd and even a 3rd opinion.
Asking $60k for a photo, stores it in between a paper towel 🤣
needed for horses... uhu
Funny how Rick still wanted to buy them 🤔 🤣 🙄 😂
And gave a ridiculous offer of ten bucks apiece.
The expert could be right, but only giving a one minute examination of possible authentic photos is ridiculous. You need several experts examining them over a period of time. Any pictures were done also at different time periods of their lives.
Lmao but you don't lol
i believe you...
The whole show is fake, but enjoyable.
@@kylemarsun By fake they meant staged. Just look up "Is pawn stars staged?"
Unfortunately the only thing that keeps growing on men as they get older is there ears
One of the Robin Hood stories, == Jesse and his brother came upon a nice log cabin and ask the lady inside if she would mind if they watered their horses. She said of course and also said that if they were hungry they were welcome to join her for lunch. While they were eating she sat down with them and began to cry.
Asking what was the matter she told them that her husband had died six months earlier, was unable to make the mortgage payments, and that the banker was coming in a few hours to foreclose on the cabin. Asking how much she owed she showed them the contract. They calculated not only what was past due but also the amount remaining on the mortgage. Jesse told his brother to go to the saddle bag and take out that amount. They told her to pay the banker and make sure he gave her a signed receipt stating that the mortgage was paid in full. They finished their meal, thanked the lady for her kindness, who was crying again with great gratitude, and rode away. When the banker was returning from the lady's cabin, going back to town, Jesse and his brother were waiting for him, robbed him of the money, and sent the banker on his way.
I believe it was also said that she reminded them of their mom
Criminals aren't admirable.
That's from beyond belief fact or fiction
@@knightoftheislandcounter3330 it sounds made up. Like a fable.
I definitely don't believe that story.
Wouldn't an appraiser who works as a museum administrator use appraiser tools and equipment like say oh I don't know....... a MAGNIFYING GLASS ?!?!? 🤤
Or gloves for that matter 😆😂🤟
@@michaelpayne8000 well there is debate on gloves vs. hands because gloves can rip up stuff.
I would like to see this guy find that they ARE real! Good luck, mister.
This was 10 years ago…..
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@@RockstarFlipper And?
@@puppy2haley Hello beautiful lady how are you doing today?
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Many of the comments talk about using facial recognition software to examine the photos further, but I think this is a case where it will be almost impossible to prove the photos are of the famous outlaws. The software could probably rule out a match if the eyes, ears, etc. didn't match, but even if they did match, you still just could have a couple of dudes that look like the James brothers. There is probably not enough photographic evidence to match the photos beyond a doubt. Having said that, what are the chances these are photos of the James brothers? Very slim, for sure, no way this guy is ever seeing a big payday, unfortunately for him.
Actually that particular picture is in the museum in Jefferson city Missouri.
I'd get a second opinion on lots of things that come into that shop. Some of these "experts" leave you asking questions
This is all staged. Get real.
These people go through multiple interviews and reviews of the items before the episode is ever aired. The whole thing is scripted. Those items were vetted / reviewed multiple times prior to going on the show.
@@danieltindall1998 it's obivously scripted TV show but items that they bring are real. Sometimes they use actors for sales if actual seller does not want to be in front of the camera but wants to show item
Mark said 'The ears and the nose don't change much' tell that to a boxer.
Noses get longer and so do ear lobes.
And brows, I guess if you don't groom them.
Evander Holyfield has left the chat.
he ain't an anthropologist
Jesse died at age 35. He really didn't live long enough for his face to change from the known photos of him. If he had lived to be 50 or 60 you might have a point.
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I usually store my tintypes between sheets of 40 grit sandpaper. It helps keep the photos from moving around too much.
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Title: “ridiculously rare photos of outlaw Jesse James”
Video itself: not Jesse James
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Different head positions in a photo will make the ears appear higher or lower as compared to the eyes. He can't say for sure just by looking at the photos. This guy needs REAL experts who will use computer software to tell if they may or may not be real.
True
The expert wasn't knowledgeable when saying that a person's nose and ears don't change at all. They do. Acromegaly is a disorder in adults in which the pituitary gland produces too much growth hormone. It affects the face(large nose and ears, protruding jaw), hands and feet. Other areas are affected as well.
I would go with what Mark says on almost everything if I had to spend money on something. Was fun to watch. Great video
Hahaha I don’t think Mark knows what he’s talking about lol he’s outside waiting to buy the photos lol
Wow, that was probably the worst authentication of photographs that I have ever seen because the guy was wearing a hat so obviously his ears are going to appear different
you good?
@@CarlosGutierrez-qw6pr I'm good, are you?
@@Blackheart_Rises I'm also good, are you?
@@nukedrum5219 lol
@Stick yes we know that but it looks dumb on TV.
Legend has it he is still trying to prove they are real.
The last place I would take advice on old pictures is someone guessing they don't think they are real based upon him telling you that photos of the James gang are very rare.
I would take those photos to a computer imaging lab for analysis not a pawn shop
I saw this video years ago on youtube, I had hoped this was the old video with people commenting "he proved it was real, it sold for X." Oh well, it wasn't.
So...my cousins farm in Minnesota...we were told as kids...Frank and Jesse stayed the night in the barn there. A few days later..a posse came looking for them.. We looked and looked for any signs..markings etc...but we never could find anything. This farm is outside Cottonwood Minn...sadly the barn was destroyed by a tornado. It was a favorite place to play when we went on vacation
If I were him, I would send the photos to a facial recognition expert and see what they say.
Because you can just find a facial recognition expert anywhere??
I am a graphic artist and I think those are some really old pictures, to make sure that those are the members of james gang, it needs to go through a deep scan so we could trace the facial structure and compare it from the known photos. Make a 3D out of it 👍🏼
Hey maybe you should quit your job if you're your trying to make a 3D image from a 2D photo from 100 years ago
A 3D scan requires many ny different angles of a live subject or tens if not hundreds of photos
@@benthompson8256 calm down why you so pressed?
These days you have to make your own tin plate if you want to shoot tin type…which is the coolest hobby ever!
Murray the magician hurting for money these days
Every single time they say I’m gonna call in an expert, Rick first asks the guy how much he’s looking for, then coincidentally the expert says they’re worth the same amount. It’s because when Rick makes that phone call in the back of the shop he tells the expert what the guys looking for price wise.. moral of the story never say how much you want first.. wait till the “expert” looks the item over… that guy with the cowboy hat actually had no idea if they were real or not, sounded like a guess to me.. one ear is higher then the other, ya ok buddy. Haha.
It’s actually true. Ears are like fingerprints. The size, shape and position relative to the eyes are different for everyone.
You are very gullible if you think this show is made that way. Rick doesn't "call" the expert in. The producers have already lined up everyone to meet ahead of time including the price and everything. The expert is just off camera and they cut to him coming in the door like it has been a few hours or a day later. This has been proven and it's ALL scripted.
@@ejkk9513 dude you ruined his childhood Lol
Spot on such crooks both
You are absolutely right 💯
LESSON #1: Always, always write down the names of the people in your photos, the date, and the place the photo was taken. Preferably ON the back of the photo for film/paper and tin photos; otherwise in the same box or frame with the photo. Original provenance identification is critical to have 100 years later, even for the family and descendants.
That wouldn't apply here. This is a TINTYPE.
@@trawlins396 Did you miss the "otherwise in the same box" part? You can ink the back of a tintype. Or just glue paper to it. The point is record the details and keep them together.
That dude didn’t know he didn’t even bring a magnifying glass
Expert comes in like if he knew Jesse personally.
Actually, he did.
I respected no ones opinion that doesnt follow in line with my opinion lol
😃😂
He said he respected the experts opinion, he just personally believes that they are still real. If it's 60 000 on the line, you would too. Who wouldn't try and get them examined for real, and not by an old man just guessing.
welcome to the world of politics
Neil Patrick Harris and Woody Harrelsons son from the future
Why didn’t they have Jesse James come in the shop and authenticate the tintypes?
Because he's an outlaw ? Duuuhh ???
Why on earth would some people go pawn very rare items without authenticating them first by a professional? Especially if you're asking thousands or tens of thousands of dollars. I can show up with old photos and claim anything. Unbelievable.
Advertisement and maybe just to be on T.V. Some people like that
The show is fake
from where im from, pawnshops would never buy any arts or antiques or whatever that is not a cheap radio or a stollen cellphone 🤷♂️
Rick: “I’ll give you ten bucks apiece for them, but I doubt you’d take it”
Seller: “Actually, the entire thing’s a rouse and you didn’t fall for it. I’d jump at ten bucks apiece, sure.”
🤣🤣
Need to use facial recognition tech on them. Ear hight relative to eye-line appearance changes depending on the tilt and angle of the head.
I always fast forward to when the "expert" shows up
Just outside and north of KC Mo. is the James farm and museum. Its located in Kearny Mo. and it is quit a surreal experience. Still has bullet holes in the door when Jesse shot a Pinkerton agent off the porch. If your in the area its a must see.
If Woody Harrelson hadn’t made it as a famous actor 😂
I was thinking the exact same thing LOL
Omg I'm not the only one 😂
I dont see it much
Fun fact: Woody Harrelsons father was a famous bank robber
@@beezlebub7847Hired Hitman
If that's an expert appraisal, I'm a banana.
They look like state fair photos of a couple buddies at one of those western booths!🙂
So stressed got his vein popping lol 4:43
I bought an old photo of a WW2 era army platoon. I’m not sure but there are several native Americans in it who might be “Windtalkers”.
Wind Talkers were Marines who served in the South Pacific.
I wonder how many experts are or have tried to get ahold of the owner of the photographs.
A simple neural net net based comparison with the Microsoft Face API would help on providing similarity percentage which could have used as leverage on the sale...
Jesse James Legend 🙏🏽
He needs to get face recognition on them.
0:26. Is that a NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Officials jacket?
Jesse James' home is maybe 20 min away from where I live lol , have seen the historical signs all my life 😅
Many times your “feelings” will lie to you.
Mark does not "really"know what he's talking about like rick says. He wouldn't be able to say its definitely them even if he thought it was them.
Let me call my buddy show !! Love watching
I knew this guy when he was in Hawaii. Cool dude. Aloha Scott.
This guy sound like the dude in the buick commercials lol
Dudes finger shaking like crazy 😂
Examiner eyes almost can't open 😂 ✌️
You cant in that distance relie on ear position due to camera distance and hight in that moment...eventually in close up portrait...
I wish I had a dollar for every time on this show he says "This is like the Holy Grail of........."
Guy brings in actual Holy Grail.
"This is like the Holy Grail of Holy Grail!.........I can't go any higher than $7500!"
Thats not Jessie James,its an actor named Royal Dano
The guy knew they were fake he was shaking when the expert started talking.
Jesse James is a VERY distant cousin of mine. He was at a family get together with my great grandmaw WAY back in the day. She told me about him as she could remember. But she met him before he was famous or known about. She didn’t know what he was doing at the time.
Every new video, I try to guess who the expert in this one is, I haven’t watched this one yet, but it’s either gonna be mark, or a special one time appearance expert
I knew that they are not going to PAWN shop because nowadays I am very familiar with this show
We need a follow up to this, did the owner prove the legitimacy of the photos ..
The David Brent face the seller pulls when realises it’s not real.
Dude saw a old photo and was like this Jesse James
A lot of people are told their item is not genuine. At the end, they're always saying "I know it is real and I will prove it". Very common. Has anyone ONCE come back and actually done so?
It's another show, but there's a UK program called "Fake or Fortune" where they investigate art. One woman had a sketch that she thought was a lost work by Paul Gauguin, she got told no, they investigated it and it turned out it actually was.
@@EGarrett01 That is a remarkable exception and from a bit of a different culture. I think Americans are SO steeped in religion, that when confronted with something other than what they believe is true, rather than entertain the evidence, they just double down. "Stand up for what you belive in!" Faith is drummed in as a virtue. It absolutly is not.
@@newcoyote I think you have some psychological issues about Americans that makes you want to hate them and so you are forcing that in where it doesn't belong. Not good.
probably but certainly not on this fake as F show
I didn't need the "expert" to tell me that these pictures weren't the real Mcoy.
Ear height changes depending on if the chin was up or down for the photographer aiming the camera at them. I believe those are the real deal.
can't they use digital forensic technology to verify they are or not of Jesse James and his brother, other then a glance, would at least like to know who they are
I wouldn't trust that 'expert' to verify a photo of my mother.
Oooohhh man that’s rough
The BOK has a wardrobe of red shirts and dress pants. Can't forget the hat, too.
The assassination of Jesse James is a great movie about the James gang.
The museum administrator paused for a while before saying no, I suggest you get them examined carefully, these so called experts can also make mistakes..
these pic's are of a different time frame prob. late 1800's to 1905 an a couple look like u.s. marshall's one does seem to be of Frank/Jesse but hard to prove...check the straw hats some wore..
I think somewhere down in my family we have photos of jesse james. Hes my great great great great uncle
Level of the ears 😏 surely the angle of the camara taking the photo plays a part..
If you look up known photos of Jesse James (see the Wikipedia entry for example), the guy who tried to sell the photos looks a lot like him (deep set eyes, high forehead, light colored eyes, ears, head shape)!
Guy looks and sounds like discount Woody Harrelson.
The clothing didn't look right for the time frame of Jesse's bio. Closer to the turn of the century than C1880.
Jesse Woodson James, my fifth cousin.
Mark is a good expert, but still get a price expert for all items
Customer: I've got an original signed Pawn Stars Rick Harrison photo
Rick: Ohh-Kayee ..what you wanna do with it?
Customer: well, it's a tough market, he's not looking his best ..judging by the hair and waistline I'd guess it's from around '08 to '09 ..but no later than '10 ...pics from this period aren't really that sort after ...tell ya what, I'll give you the photo + 50 bucks
Rick: I'm still taking all the risk ..gimme a 100 and I'll write it up 🤝🏼
Jesse James: Let take some photos together!
Rick : Well, i am not sure this is Jesse James! Surely someone faking this picture, pretending to be Jesse James.
Jesse James: @=#%&%+!:?£...!!!!
Yes that customer will prove that his photographs are real & that's why no one ever heard from him again.
I live on the road Jesse James was on in IL
John Dillinger is the one that replied when asked, "Why do you rob banks?" "That's where they keep the money!"
Doesn't look like the James Gang rock group from the 60's.
It's so RIDICULOUSLY RARE that it's not even them.
Go to a forensic specialist and they can do a computer comparison against known pictures and you will know for 100% sure what you have!!
Jesse and Frank were also members of the Knights of the Golden Circle, a wide-spread organization dedicated to financing a new Confederacy. That's why so many stashes still remain.