@@christianrapper - The only thing that's obvious is that he's didn't answer the question or the follow up question regarding anxiety and writers block. The very last thing he said was, "How can they know what we do when we don't know what we do?" It's a copout response.
@@realizedemoneyes He answered in the only way he can explain it; he sets a goal for each day and keeps to his routine with strict determination. George just flounders around waiting for a spark in the dark. They just have different ways to obtain inspiration. One works it out on paper and the other in his head. Clearly the paper way is faster.
He says it near the end-he doesn’t understand how he does it. Nobody does, really. It’s a mental and emotional process that’s different for every writer, and it’s a mysterious one that no one can really put into words. I like that he sets the complete scene with Rowling first to give his answer context.
still a good point lol King probably doesn't have a day he overthinks anything. Just start talking/writing and don't stop until you have to (and hope it sticks)
King's better answer is in his autobiography and writing guide, "On Writing." Highly recommend it to anyone interested in either him or just writing in general. It is, like those four minutes, a bit scattered, but it's very informative.
Just in time for me to have a new favorite :).... OOPS they just died :'(! DAMMIT!! At least the books will be Miles better than Dumb & Dumbers CLUSTER FUCK OF A SERIES FINALE :///!
I feel if you analysed their books you would get some hints as to why their approach is so different. George seems to approaching it like an artist who wants every book to be as good as the last while Stephen is more pragmatic, knowing that he can churn out books and not all of them have to be classics. He probably realised early on that readers liked books that he didn’t think were his best work and that there is a lot of stuff you don’t need to worry about because the bulk of the readers will be just as happy if you write that bit the same way you always do or if you think up some new clever way to write it that calls back to earlier chapters or books.
I think he just knows that getting the ideas sorted out is part of the process of writing the whole thing, and that it can be refined later… and that everything is actually easier when you’re consistent and don’t work solely off of inspiration
@Josh Traffanstedt A Song of Ice and Fire is no better or worse than The Wheel of Time (which I quite like both). The Dark Tower series is a real epic which spans time and other worlds that Martin hasn't even attempted yet.
Stephen King talks the way he writes. By the time he answers the question, not only have you forgotten what the question was, you’ve forgotten that there had been a question in the first place.
King writes like it's his job. George writes like it's a hobby that took off in a way he wasn't prepared for and now that there's so much pressure it's not so fun anymore.
Nintariz but you can’t force yourself to be creative it either happens or it doesn’t. Fine tuning and polishing can be a conscious effort but having ideas in the first place have to come naturally
Stephen King describing the clothes she was wearing exactly like a character in a book. It's so ingrained into his throught process that he even does that with a spoken story on a stage.
This is the perfect scenario. I've always been fascinated by how Stephen King manages to pump out so many books, and I've always been fascinated by how slowly and cautiously George writes his. I think the whole universe was created just so George could ask Stephen that question and we could laugh about it.
If you want to know more about King's process, he wrote an entire book called "On Writing" which is about how he got started and what he does. He even narrated the audiobook. It's fantastic.
Funny idea, but in reality all that George does is practice Tantric Writing. Whilst Stephen clearly only cares for a quick in-and-out experience, six pages and done, basically soulless abuse of editing software, no time for the divine since he is an atheist. I guess technically both counts as sex, but I know which one I prefer.
I think King understands (after decades) that writing is like walking on a journey: you just gotta keep moving. Some days are amazing and some suck. When you're done with the journey, someone might ask how it went, and you'll tell them all the interesting parts and none of the boring parts. Then it sounds like a great story! Martin seems more like he doesn't want to take one step on the journey unless he knows where he's going and that each moment will be awesome. I respect the result of his labours, but it seems as if it no longer fits his current situation.
Everyone writes at a different pace, and King happens to be well practiced at it, especially when he said he tries to get his drafts clean the first time. The secret for anyone not practiced is this: your first draft is meant to suck. Don't bother with spelling or grammar, let punctuation fall to the side. Your mind is like a flywheel, so start a flow one word at a time, write the very next action, even if that's the character taking their next mundane breath and you know it'll be thrown away in later drafts.
Everyone writes a different pace. Yes. But everyone also writes in different ways. Stephen writes make books about many stories. George is interested in one single universe. You can’t compare the pace of the two people, because they aren’t even doing the same thing. Stephen can literally just stop writing a book, and start writing another one, and it wouldn’t matter. Or he can change everything about a story line, and it wouldn’t matter. George has to take into account, the back stories of dozens of people, when making a single decision about the actions of a character. And that single decision, can also have consequences on next decade of writing he would do. He works on a planet. Stephen works on cities and towns. If he can’t think of what should happen in that town, he just picks any other random town and “goes to town” on it lol. He can literally write anything at all, and it won’t matter.
@@jamesbizs @j p You missed the entire point. Who said I was comparing King and Martin? Did you miss the words where I indicated the post was about telling writers who aren't experienced as King not to worry about it and why? I said that because I was worried people would try to emulate King, which would kill the budding interest of so many future writers who may feel they don't have the 'talent' and give up. The first draft is meant to suck and be messy, and you write in iterations. That goes across the board, whether you write in ways similar to King or Martin. It's only once you get extremely experienced that one would even dare to try and get the first draft right.
Infestedhobo1 Fucking best comment. Stephen writes like an actual “hack” from the old days, where you hack it out, and it doesn’t really matter what you put down because you get paid by the word. Not everything he writes is Misery or IT. Stephen is the most prolific writer of the modern day because he WRITES. Like a boxer: you’re not gonna land all your punches. Throw a lot so you can land some. And some of the ones that land are beautiful punches.
Stephen is a very story driven writer while George is far more lore driven writer. They are both extremely respectable forms of writing and both are extremely difficult to maintain.
Reminds me of two webcomics: *Lackadaisy* and *Yet Another Fantasy Gamer Comic* -- the only two I know of where the creator was a professional artist prior to starting the comic (as opposed to the more common means of learning the craft *through* the comic, just by putting in time and effort). They're both great comics, but so, so different in their approach. *YAFGC* is done by a storyboard artist, in a sketchy storyboard style -- no color, no "polish" -- and they're short comics with punchlines. *Lackadaisy* is gorgeous, full-color art on giant pages, and covers a meticulously researched historical period in painstaking detail. They're both highly expressive (I encourage artists to study both styles -- Lackadaisy even has tutorials!) with enthralling casts. But guess which one comes out daily, and which comes out once every other blue moon? And that's not to judge one by the other -- they're incomparable, except for being both incredible works of art -- but to say that there's validity to getting it out fast, and validity to taking the time to work out all the details to the best of your ability. But the advice I've come to understand after decades in the craft? If you're starting out, ignore the polish. Ignore the quality and go for quantity -- *Fail Faster* -- because you will learn so, so much more by producing things and putting them out for the public eye than you ever could by sitting there trying to "pet" them until they're perfect. If your brain will let you (I say this as a person who likely has ADHD), go for short projects done fast, and get through a good variety before you settle down and try to tackle the meticulous worldbuilding and any project of extreme length.
Only the grinch is winning. Kind of like nightmare before Christmas😨😱 jack gets the girl and santa f*s off to his lonely workshop all bitter about a fan. Omg ..... so many similarities ti g.rr. martin
I think it's the difference between one off horror stories and long fantasy series. King can put out single stories all contained within a book or two, but Martin (in the spirit of Tolkien) has to come up with a detailed history of the story's world and characters and adhere to everything he set in motion.
Nahhhh, look at Brandon Sanderson or other authors. I believe that he's just not really sure how he will finish the book. He must also have a lot of stress about the fact that it's been 10 years
@@tree_hugger6921 Yeah I think that's the case. I think since this series is his life's work he wants to make sure he does it justice. King has a different tempo and he does great stories. Not to say things like the Dark Tower series didn't take a lot of effort and planning I think Martin has a bit more pressure because of his fandom and his own legacy so far in this series.
Its amazing hearing these people talk, just how king was able to recall jk rowlings attire in perfect descriptive detail just shows this man is a born writer, his brain is just wired in a way to observe all he sees
Its because there are two types of people in this world. People who let writers block affect them and people who dont. The trick is to just write the best you can and then reread it and refine it.
@@trippasnippa119 yep, I imagine George is a perfectionist and will try to make the best sentence he can before moving on to the next one. I imagine King just writes up everything first, then goes back and changes it to his liking afterwards. Kind of like a painter who does a wash over the entire canvas vs a painter that details as he goes, and never bothers with a wash at all. Neither approach is wrong. But I also do think King reuses a lot of tropes, and experiences from his own life. I can think of three books that use alchohol, magic, and wise old African American men. Oh, and something perverted happens to a kid, or a kid does something perverted. I don't think George likes repeating himself.
@@watertommyz Yeah, and George probably relies on inspiration, which can technically give better results but is inherently based on luck, while Steve can push through even without inspiration, which can result in dull writing but helps get the job done
Honestly, these are the two types of artists/writers: the workhorses and the perfectionists, the people who treat it like a job and those who scrutinize every detail and want to make it "perfect". While I am one of the latter, I respect and stand in awe at the former. I wish I had that type of dedication, that consistency.
"You don't ever have a day where you sit down there and it's like constipation. You write a sentence, and you hate the sentence so you check your email. Then you wonder if you had any talent after all, and maybe you should've been a plumber." I can relate to this on a spiritual level.
this is procrastination. when you procrastinate, you don't wanna do the thing. yet you waste time. discipline is the key. just start doing stuff without thinking, and you manage to do things, if you simply start. starting in everything is the hard thing, after that you can forget about time and spend hours doing it, even if you are not really into it. treat it like a work you get paid for, and unless you do it, you suffer consequences. it is true, you spend you time wasted. but time is not well measured for humans, so they seem it is not that bad. if you had to compensate out of your wallet for the time you procrastinated, it would be a whole different story. in actuality, this is exactly what you lose, money you could be earning doing something you actually love.
tru e I’m only a modest student and amateur writer, but it’s true. In school when I had long essays and term papers to write, I never, EVER, started with an intro. I threw down my initial points and thoughts on the screen. I built off of those crucial first sentences. I then continued to write and write and write until I finally came to a solid intro, then the rough draft was done. I think students who struggle with writing papers think there are all these rules and chronology to writing when it doesn’t matter. There are no rules to structuring your initial writings. Just start! Before you know it, the paper will be completed.
@@true7251 Meh, money is not everything. If you do something you love you wont have this problem in the first place and doing something you love is also much more important than making as much money as possible.
You guys know how much this comforts me im not the only oralhygeine unchampion. If i am feeling ill i'll definetely not wash because it'll only make it worse. I'll be sick from the taste. And tbh i feel sick pretty often. And i am quite proud enough for stepping my shower game up. As a depressed petrock im quite satisfied with that achievement at the moment. I take it step by step.
Same here. I write fast because I have an outline but I rarely follow my outline. I take constant detours to my plot goal. I have an outline but I rarely follow it. Most of the time I follow according to the scaffolding of the story, but my characters have a mind of their own.
@Starscream91 Tell me how exactly is she a "trash". Kids these days are so quick to label someone as trash and shit. Jumping onto every bandwagon without doing any critical thinking of their own.
The war of art. SK sums it up perfectly: show up everyday and get to work. I also think it’s interesting how SK is really just focused on the next 6 pages. When you’re thinking about a whole universe and multiple story arcs, it can all get just so overwhelming.
I agree with That last paragraph , GRRM strikes me as a bit of a over thinker which might influence his fixation on “perfect” world building. SK doesn’t come across that way.
I've been writing for twenty-five years and love every moment of it. While at the same time, it is frustrating as hell, I'd never give it up for anything.
@@dragonkamran Not true. An experienced and successful writer has the benefit of knowing what's been considered good in the past. And while success is never a guarantee, a good writer knows his audience and can choose to write what he or she assumes they will like.
@@mischuwischu4305 Who knows? But I agree that his endings are usually disappointing. In fact, I've had many long conversations with people about that, and they all said the same thing.
I was joking, I know what a writer’s block is, but I said it referring how Stephen King apparently never have it. He doesn’t know what writer’s block means
George said after winds of winter he is going to take a break and write other books in the song of ice and fire series. Soo after winds of winter at least another ten years. 😥😥
Bob Joking aside, he probably will. George is getting up there in years and he's more than a little overweight. Even if he didn't take a break after WoW, there's a good chance he wouldn't live long enough to finish the series. Figure in a hiatus of who knows how long and it's all but guaranteed.
Well. books are about 70-80 chapters. 3 chapters every six months equals about 12 years. Last one came out in 2011. He already had at least 11 chapters written so next book 2022.
Moral of the story: King finds the time to write, regardless of any day to day chores that come hid way. After he tackles them, he goes back and writes!
God, that made me laugh, and want to cry a lot inside... If he REALLY only wrote 6 pages in a year, he'd only have 48 pages done. It would take 250 years to write a 1500 page book at that abysmal pace... Assuming my math is correct anyway. He's only 70 now which means to finish this one book in that time period he'd have to live several times longer than his entire life to this point!
Stephen King: Has an idea. Makes a book out of that idea. George Martin: Has an idea. Includes that idea as a subplot of a subplot that is too trivial to form an important part of the main plot, but has raised so many questions that it can't just be dismissed and forgotten about and somehow needs to be worked into the next book and tied into all the other subplots and sub-sub-plots in a plausible and satisfying way.
@@RacinZilla003LOL ol patchy, i had forgotten. Hes probably just Tom Bombadillishly trying to tell everyone he is the real Azor Hai beset by a mermaid curse
Stephen King also writes in satisfying way too. There is just no backstory heavy as George's which makes sense since King has got no series he writes books separately
I think the key here is that George RR Martin feels like if a sentence isn’t good, he can’t write it. If Stephen King feels like a sentence isn’t good, he understands that he can fix it. You can always edit a shitty sentence to make it good, but you can’t edit nothing. So even if King is writing the worst thing he’s ever written and he knows it’s bad and his heart isn’t in it…he also knows that once it’s on the page, he can fix it. If George RR Martin would let himself write something shitty with that understanding, we’d have the ending of Game of Thrones by now
For me, writer's block is the same way. I tell people, as soon as I have a life, trouble arises. I never lose ideas for my characters if I keep working on them constantly. But the moment I have a full time job, school to attend, a guy I'm seeing, or any wedge that takes me away from my desk, that's when I have the block. And that's worse than a creative block, because at least with a creative block, you are still sitting at your desk trying to figure out where to go next. Blocks like mine can put me out for months.
Martin is trying to write 100 books at once. He thinks of a character then goes "well what if they had this massive backstory that we explore 4 books from now." Then writing that characters backstory thinks of 10 other characters that need to be fleshed out.
@@randomdude2026 Neither was Tolkien's works. The man worked his whole life on them and they're severely unfinished. So, yeah, fantasy is quite a hard one to fully finish, since these are different Universes.
@@tywinlannister6768 Tolkien finished Lord of the Rings. He may have continued to work on his world of Arda throughout his whole life but he finished the story of his trillogy. ASOIAF isn't finished.
@@randomdude2026 nor will it be, a story sometimes can be difficult to finish, due to its various plot-lines. My point was that neither works are finished, since the story doesn't end where the books end, they have too many others adjacent.
You can tell king thinks like a writer constantly. The level of detail in describing Rowling when he's just telling a story from memory. When's the last time you told a little story from your life to a friend or coworker and described the clothes and hairstyle of the people in the story? Most people just get to the funny part or the juicy bits. King sets the scene, gives you the details. A life time of habit isn't so easily broken.
I am deeply deeply grateful for Stephen Kings work ethic, what would have we missed out on, had he only written like 10books. Thank you Stephen for never never getting lazy and writing down those beautiful (and not so beautiful ;-)) things in your head!
Tolkien: ... and my language I invented will replaced English. America soon will have languages as compulsory omitting English.Middle Earth and Klingon.
I remember one of most famous King's quote: adverb is not your friend. He'll never write Joe Rowling looks like a tired housewife. He's gonna explain what does tired mean in that context lol. Like he wrote a full chapter about that dog in Gerald's Game
@@amandadamatta_ he won't finish one of the most complex and best fantasy book series ever made, because the pressure is too high? fuck that he is not far from becoming one of the most known writers of all time and gives a shit because of that reason? Ridiculous for real..
Amanda Pinheiro pretty unlikely that he won’t finish it. He is a very skilled writer that has plenty of material to work with. It will just take a while because of his meticulous nature. Which is the whole reason for his work being so good in the first place. People have to just respect his work and give him time, they will not be disappointed.
@@chaoticevilmonk2223 he got himself in that position because of his work, not the other way around. He didn't start his career as a best seller with plenty of time to create, he had to make sacrifices and find the time to write his first book.
Stephen King writes quickly because he rarely outlines or plots. He rarely has any idea what the story or characters will do and just lets them unfold under his fingertips. That makes writing a much more spur of the moment experience for him.
Very similar to GRRM, actually. The thing is, on the way, he crafted a lot of lore, and still wrote like that. Which is awesome on the one hand, on the other it's the reason there's so many different new plot lines in the books that he probably lost oversight of them.
Suleymen Amanzholtegi Not necessarily. For the more conservative writer, outlines serve as the crux of the process. Nonetheless, for those more liberal, it’s more so the spur of the moment. It ultimately depends on what the creator is trying to pen in the first place, however.
@@TheStraightestWhitest yeah melancholic wizard who had an intensely sexless relationship with a bad wizard who was more horny for evil than he was for Dumbledore.
Creativity comes in waves.. sometimes u start slow then u flying thru whatever and u look up and u done....it's easier when the idea is fresh in your head cuz u just extending the train of thought...sometimes u get inspired sometimes something sparks a memory...
He does answer the question. He says entropy has a way of trying to disrupt the flow. JK Rowling pulled aside by a publisher when she's meant to be sound-checking, while also on holiday. The fact that writing really is a mystery, and you just have to show up and do the 6 pages. It's not about understanding it, just try to protect it.
If you read his book On Writing, King is the type of writer of writes on instinct. He doesn't really plan much, he just starts writing and lets his skill and experience carry him through. He likens it to excavating a dinosaur out of the ground. The dinosaur is in there, you don't know exactly what it is, but it's in there. Then it's just up to the skill of the excavator to get it out in one piece without breaking it. That explains why his books sometimes vary wildly in quality and even his best stuff tends to be long, rambling pieces of fiction that somehow captivates you even though it's bonkers. I guess he might be one of the most naturally gifted writers of all time. If he wasn't such a legend, I think many of his books would be heavily edited and shortened by an editor. Now they just let him do what he wants because he's Stephen King.
Not even Stephen King is free from editors, and no writer should be. But they probably are much more open towards his ideas than to newcomers. Just like when he re-released The Stand with two hundred deleted pages.
@@ugabuga2586 i dont know if imposters syndrome is a mental illness that requires a diagnosis. Does it? I always thought its a sentiment someone's holds not so much a disorder. (A pretty common one at that too)
@@nicky592 Yeah, imposter syndrome isn't an illness any more than buyer's remorse or "big fish in a little pond" syndrome. Labelling a human experience doesn't make it an illness.
A truly great man. I have been reading his work for over thirty years and I have to say it has changed my life. I am the slow to learn to read and write young man in The Dead Zone and he is Johnny Smith. Read the book and get the reference.
The man has written so many books, and as a huge huge fan of his, he definitely hits a lot of the same beats with his stories. I don’t think it’s a bad thing but he has his style down pretty precisely at this point. I don’t think there are many writers as prolific as he is.
@@albertshepard4084 Ignore that comment, they're obviously clueless. Most people think that King was just a horror writer and that's just plain wrong. He also wrote The Shawshank Redemption, The Green Mile, Stand by Me (The Body), and 11/22/63, just to name a few of his non-horror workings.
This is the way to write, especially if you have a hard time finishing things or want to be a professional. It needs to transcend just being a hobby and become a part of you. Where not doing it will literally cause you pain.
As a writer myself, I think this has less to do with the type of stories they produce and more to do with their individual personalities. I have two writer modes: robotic, can't stop writing even if I'm trying to sleep or take a shower mode OR can't really write anything/no motivation mode. It is what it is. I don't pressure myself with the artistic process because that would ruin my love for what I do and it would result in crappy writing.
King: "I try to write 6 pages a day" GRRM: "Hold up, 6 sentences a day? You're kidding, right?" King: "No, 6 pages a day" GRRM: "Wow, 6 words a day. That's a lot" King: "No, George, I said 6 *pages* a day" GRRM: "Well, good for you, writing a whole 6 letters a day" King: "Are you deaf? 6 *PAGES* a day!" GRRM: *visible confusion*
GRRM: "BUT how many POV Characters do you have and how many unnecessary subplots within subplots that won't be answered for another 3 books?" King: "Like 5 at most maybe and I don't do that many subplots unless it directly ties into the book and is resolved within that book." GRRM: "But, but you play kill off important main characters right? Like build them up then kill them shattering the audience right?" King: "Yeah, a lot of writers have done that since Homer, there's nothing special about when you do it, George." GRRM:....................Do you at least have incest in your books, lots and lots of it? King: I think we're done here
Tadicuslegion78 we get it, you don’t like him. But many people love the complexity of Martin’s books and he kills main characters much more than in any other book I’ve ever read.
Hey Stephen King!! Thanks for donating to the kids playground out in orange. My daughter loves it! Glad you chose to film in the town I was born in. I happened to be born in an ambulance outside of the “ castle rock church “ love the stories.
Stephen king is like the kid who can get through school breezily and easily and Martin is the kid that has to study everything to get the same result. That’s how I’m seeing this at least, both are living legends.
Lol. What?? No. Stephen king just writes a lot. Some are good. Some are bad. He doesn’t breeze through school. He’s the kid that gets a C average, so he can enjoy his life and do a lot more things, while George studies all the time, so he could only get A’s. Stephen could get all A’s if he wanted to. But he doesn’t want to, for whatever personal reason. He wants an entire library. George is obsessive and spends way more time, and just wants one single shelf.
You’re literally saying that George is the kid that’s not as smart as everyone else, so he has to put in much more effort, to get the same result as the kid who has it easy? .George writes entire fictional universes. With 100’s of characters, and entire lives and backstories. Any decision he makes, has to match EVERYTHING he has EVER written in that universe, and it will have a ripple effect going forward, forever. One choice and 50 characters lives are changed. And it all has to be grounded in some sort of reality. These two don’t even go to the same type of school. What you are missing is, George CHOOSES to study everything. He could write like Stephen, and “breeze” through. But he doesn’t want to. He chose an entirely different path. Neither path is wrong. It’s just choice. But you make it seem like both “students” just fell into the types of school lives they lead. So if you even read all of this, Sorry for the rant. but I’m big on analogies, and yours just really bothered me.
If you’re going with the school analogy, George is taking all AP classes, while Stephen chose the normal class path. Both end up with A’s in the end, and both graduate with the same high school degree, but one had study longer and harder, to get that A.
@@Miketheratguy Your entire writing ability couldn't hold a candle to a single sentence of George's intricate masterpiece. He built an entire world, it's hard to fathom what goes into that. He has to juggle dozens of storylines, character motivations, locations and other complexities like consistency and symbolism in a perfectly woven web. Entitled people like yourself are sickening and don't understand how to cherish and appreciate anything George created for us. You don't deserve the final two books. He got into writing ASOIAF as a hobby, a way to spread happiness and a way to share his world with others. Not to meet the demands of nobodies and be pressured into writing. This is art and that demands respect and patience.
@@Miketheratguy So he has a great mind, people purchase his ideas(his books) on their own will. Doesn't mean he owes any of you creativity lacking fuck-ups anything.
Stephen King: "Here's the thing, ok. There are books and there are books." *Genius! Write that down!* Edit to those pointing out the obvious: Yes, I'm aware of what he means by this.
That's not really true. Martin's books aren't long because he lingers on details. They're long because his stories go off on tangents and digressions, and he spends too much time elaborating in his world-building. But he doesn't elaborate by going into long descriptions, he elaborates by telling an entire sub-story that explores each and every area he's interested in.
Does he? Has he been diagnosed or are you just implying that? Not sure I am curious enough to search and validate it on google but just enough to ask here.
@@g.k.9686 it's when you think you're not that good in something and sometimes your anxiety makes you even question if you have any skills in the thing you're doing at all, eventhough you're really good, to the point you can think you don't deserve your success and feel a little bit like an imposter who tricked people into thinking you have talent. And you can tell he has it from what he said when he asked Stephen King do you ever write a sentence and hate it and wonder if you have any talent at all and should probably have been a plumber instead. The guy is considered the living king of fantasy novels, no one thinks he should have been a plumber, meanwhile he has the self-consciousness of a teenage writer on wattpad. And idk the way he talks and the questions he asks make it seem like he feels somehow inferior to Stephen King which seem completely absurd to us considering his success and talent
I full on ugly laughed at this comment for five minutes before I could click reply, and then another five laughing at the reply. Ten minutes gone, but well spent I guess. 😂
*George RR Martin laughs like he kills off most of his characters*
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Hahaha, oh man, that’s funny
*sheds tear*
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miss mango Well, Cersei/GoT had better die or I (and millions of others) will be pissed!
Pfft.
Go read Steven Erikson. You'll forget all about the fat shit known as GRR Martin and his lazy writing.
"How do you write so fast?"
"I write 6 pages a day."
Thanks Stephen.
Lol. He obviously said more though. I would love to see his whole answer.
@@christianrapper - The only thing that's obvious is that he's didn't answer the question or the follow up question regarding anxiety and writers block.
The very last thing he said was, "How can they know what we do when we don't know what we do?"
It's a copout response.
@@realizedemoneyes He answered in the only way he can explain it; he sets a goal for each day and keeps to his routine with strict determination.
George just flounders around waiting for a spark in the dark.
They just have different ways to obtain inspiration. One works it out on paper and the other in his head. Clearly the paper way is faster.
According to the writer and biographer Francis Steegmuller, Flaubert wrote and polished a page per day and spent the remaining time masturbating.
@@realizedemoneyes Maybe it was a polite way of saying I don't get writers block.
I now understand how King rarely misses his 6 pages a day.
4 minutes in and we've gone through 5 topics and I still didn't get a real answer.
He says it near the end-he doesn’t understand how he does it. Nobody does, really. It’s a mental and emotional process that’s different for every writer, and it’s a mysterious one that no one can really put into words. I like that he sets the complete scene with Rowling first to give his answer context.
still a good point lol
King probably doesn't have a day he overthinks anything. Just start talking/writing and don't stop until you have to (and hope it sticks)
I think the important thing is he just does it, whether he keeps or completely changes it later, he gets those 6 pages done.
King's better answer is in his autobiography and writing guide, "On Writing." Highly recommend it to anyone interested in either him or just writing in general. It is, like those four minutes, a bit scattered, but it's very informative.
Creativity is a weird thing.
I think King’s answer basically boils down to “I write fast because it’s my damn job” lol and I love it
GRRM writing Winds of Winter is like SpongeBob writing his paper during the Procrastination episode.
@@GreatOldOne9866 I'll have to check that one out
@@lesleyrussell8200 Found the #Butthurt!
@@kingstarscream3807well :
Everytime George RR Martin laughs, your favourite Game of Thrones character dies
Just in time for me to have a new favorite :).... OOPS they just died :'(! DAMMIT!!
At least the books will be Miles better than Dumb & Dumbers CLUSTER FUCK OF A SERIES FINALE :///!
HA Tyrion ain't going anywhere.(oh god I hope not)
The Hound can only die once.
I hope Bronn never die in the books
You said " Favourite", meaning you're not from the US.
"How do you write so fast?"
"Have you tried cocaine George?"
Exactly!
Blow reference for the win
Twice: ugh this power is making my nose burn
Twice: i love it
Twice: i love it
Twice: i love it
Have you tried cocaine, GeOrGiE? HAVE YOU??!
thats not funny
Wow, Stephen King tells stories just how he writes, he puts so many details in them. Fascinating.
You say that like it’s a surprise? Why wouldn’t he speak how he writes? The writing probably encompasses the vast majority of thought that he has.
@@lesleyrussell8200
copied form others?
And he manages to write more than one book every 15 years, astonishing speed.
I do the same thing, but I only write non-fiction memoir and autobiography.
I feel if you analysed their books you would get some hints as to why their approach is so different. George seems to approaching it like an artist who wants every book to be as good as the last while Stephen is more pragmatic, knowing that he can churn out books and not all of them have to be classics. He probably realised early on that readers liked books that he didn’t think were his best work and that there is a lot of stuff you don’t need to worry about because the bulk of the readers will be just as happy if you write that bit the same way you always do or if you think up some new clever way to write it that calls back to earlier chapters or books.
Quantity over quality…
I think he just knows that getting the ideas sorted out is part of the process of writing the whole thing, and that it can be refined later… and that everything is actually easier when you’re consistent and don’t work solely off of inspiration
Moreover, George tends to write about entire fictional worlds. That's a lot of worldbuilding
Another word George is lazy
@Josh Traffanstedt A Song of Ice and Fire is no better or worse than The Wheel of Time (which I quite like both). The Dark Tower series is a real epic which spans time and other worlds that Martin hasn't even attempted yet.
Stephen King talks the way he writes. By the time he answers the question, not only have you forgotten what the question was, you’ve forgotten that there had been a question in the first place.
Dude I was JUST gonna write this comment almost exactly after watching the video. Huge King fan, but man can the guy go off on tangents.
I thought I was just high
@Seeg11007 tell what book that's from and that will be my first reading from King
best definition ever ahaha
Poorly?
King writes like it's his job. George writes like it's a hobby that took off in a way he wasn't prepared for and now that there's so much pressure it's not so fun anymore.
Truest statement ever.
Damn I think that's accurate as hell
Very true. I think the problem is the TV Show got in the mix
@@TheArsenalgunner28 Yes, I think it's safe to say that his focus is too scattered right now to be writing any books, sadly.
Nintariz but you can’t force yourself to be creative it either happens or it doesn’t. Fine tuning and polishing can be a conscious effort but having ideas in the first place have to come naturally
Stephen King describing the clothes she was wearing exactly like a character in a book. It's so ingrained into his throught process that he even does that with a spoken story on a stage.
You just know he has to narrate his life in his head constantly. Even I do that when I read too many King books at once😂
This is the perfect scenario. I've always been fascinated by how Stephen King manages to pump out so many books, and I've always been fascinated by how slowly and cautiously George writes his. I think the whole universe was created just so George could ask Stephen that question and we could laugh about it.
If you want to know more about King's process, he wrote an entire book called "On Writing" which is about how he got started and what he does. He even narrated the audiobook. It's fantastic.
Funny idea, but in reality all that George does is practice Tantric Writing.
Whilst Stephen clearly only cares for a quick in-and-out experience, six pages and done, basically soulless abuse of editing software, no time for the divine since he is an atheist.
I guess technically both counts as sex, but I know which one I prefer.
He’s uses ghost writers to assist. Not complicated.
"well first George, I don't have to think of a setting because I already know it will be Maine"
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Stephen King has a lot of returning ideas, doesn't he?
Write what ya know
It's his maine source of inspiration.
@@JM1675 OH NO
George RR Martin looks like heavy metal Santa Claus
You nailed it😂
Lol!!
George, or Tom Araya?
Who will kill all the naughty children...and all the good children, just for fun
XD
I think King understands (after decades) that writing is like walking on a journey: you just gotta keep moving. Some days are amazing and some suck. When you're done with the journey, someone might ask how it went, and you'll tell them all the interesting parts and none of the boring parts. Then it sounds like a great story!
Martin seems more like he doesn't want to take one step on the journey unless he knows where he's going and that each moment will be awesome. I respect the result of his labours, but it seems as if it no longer fits his current situation.
Everyone writes at a different pace, and King happens to be well practiced at it, especially when he said he tries to get his drafts clean the first time. The secret for anyone not practiced is this: your first draft is meant to suck. Don't bother with spelling or grammar, let punctuation fall to the side. Your mind is like a flywheel, so start a flow one word at a time, write the very next action, even if that's the character taking their next mundane breath and you know it'll be thrown away in later drafts.
Everyone writes a different pace. Yes. But everyone also writes in different ways. Stephen writes make books about many stories. George is interested in one single universe. You can’t compare the pace of the two people, because they aren’t even doing the same thing. Stephen can literally just stop writing a book, and start writing another one, and it wouldn’t matter. Or he can change everything about a story line, and it wouldn’t matter. George has to take into account, the back stories of dozens of people, when making a single decision about the actions of a character. And that single decision, can also have consequences on next decade of writing he would do. He works on a planet. Stephen works on cities and towns. If he can’t think of what should happen in that town, he just picks any other random town and “goes to town” on it lol. He can literally write anything at all, and it won’t matter.
@@jamesbizs @j p You missed the entire point. Who said I was comparing King and Martin? Did you miss the words where I indicated the post was about telling writers who aren't experienced as King not to worry about it and why?
I said that because I was worried people would try to emulate King, which would kill the budding interest of so many future writers who may feel they don't have the 'talent' and give up.
The first draft is meant to suck and be messy, and you write in iterations. That goes across the board, whether you write in ways similar to King or Martin. It's only once you get extremely experienced that one would even dare to try and get the first draft right.
The way Stephen King speaks is exactly how he gets 6 pages a day.
That's what I was thinking! It's "easy" to fill the pages when by nature you just can't shut up. I have the exact opposite problem 😂
@@Hypnotized81 i should make my gf a writer. She can never shut up🤣
@@koma7778 🤣
Infestedhobo1
Fucking best comment.
Stephen writes like an actual “hack” from the old days, where you hack it out, and it doesn’t really matter what you put down because you get paid by the word.
Not everything he writes is Misery or IT.
Stephen is the most prolific writer of the modern day because he WRITES.
Like a boxer: you’re not gonna land all your punches. Throw a lot so you can land some.
And some of the ones that land are beautiful punches.
@grand pakii Well it's 180 pages a month, 360 in 2 months, 540 in 3 months! That's writing 4-6 medium to big books a year. I'd say it's "adequate" 😄
George RR Martin: How do you write so fast?
Stephen King: I write.
Unironically, that's great advice.
@@suddenpenguin The hell
“How the fuck do you write so fast?”
“Yes”
"The secret to getting ahead is getting started." -Mark Twain
Discipline
Stephen is a very story driven writer while George is far more lore driven writer. They are both extremely respectable forms of writing and both are extremely difficult to maintain.
Reminds me of two webcomics: *Lackadaisy* and *Yet Another Fantasy Gamer Comic* -- the only two I know of where the creator was a professional artist prior to starting the comic (as opposed to the more common means of learning the craft *through* the comic, just by putting in time and effort). They're both great comics, but so, so different in their approach.
*YAFGC* is done by a storyboard artist, in a sketchy storyboard style -- no color, no "polish" -- and they're short comics with punchlines. *Lackadaisy* is gorgeous, full-color art on giant pages, and covers a meticulously researched historical period in painstaking detail.
They're both highly expressive (I encourage artists to study both styles -- Lackadaisy even has tutorials!) with enthralling casts. But guess which one comes out daily, and which comes out once every other blue moon?
And that's not to judge one by the other -- they're incomparable, except for being both incredible works of art -- but to say that there's validity to getting it out fast, and validity to taking the time to work out all the details to the best of your ability.
But the advice I've come to understand after decades in the craft? If you're starting out, ignore the polish. Ignore the quality and go for quantity -- *Fail Faster* -- because you will learn so, so much more by producing things and putting them out for the public eye than you ever could by sitting there trying to "pet" them until they're perfect. If your brain will let you (I say this as a person who likely has ADHD), go for short projects done fast, and get through a good variety before you settle down and try to tackle the meticulous worldbuilding and any project of extreme length.
They look like Santa Clause and The Grinch arguing about Christmas
😂😂😂😂😂 oh my God!!?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Underated comment
Only the grinch is winning. Kind of like nightmare before Christmas😨😱 jack gets the girl and santa f*s off to his lonely workshop all bitter about a fan. Omg ..... so many similarities ti g.rr. martin
Santa still hasn't given me my present and it's been years
SOMEBODY CALL THE POLICE 🤣🤣🤣🤣
When Stephen King gets a writer’s block he just writes something else.
I mean, so does GRRM. He’s released *several* ASOIAF anthologies in the time between book 5 and 6, and more comin!
@@AlyssMa7rin I think this is just proof he has no idea how it should end. Winds of Winter is never coming out.
Same! (To OG comment I mean)
same as Brandon Sanderson too
I mean that’s kinda what you are supposed to do lol. Write something else and come back to it later.
I think it's the difference between one off horror stories and long fantasy series. King can put out single stories all contained within a book or two, but Martin (in the spirit of Tolkien) has to come up with a detailed history of the story's world and characters and adhere to everything he set in motion.
Unfortunately this means that future books will take exponentially longer because they have to adhere to many more constraints.
Nahhhh, look at Brandon Sanderson or other authors. I believe that he's just not really sure how he will finish the book. He must also have a lot of stress about the fact that it's been 10 years
@@tree_hugger6921 Yeah I think that's the case. I think since this series is his life's work he wants to make sure he does it justice. King has a different tempo and he does great stories. Not to say things like the Dark Tower series didn't take a lot of effort and planning I think Martin has a bit more pressure because of his fandom and his own legacy so far in this series.
Sanderson has way less character development, Sanderson isn't even near the same league as GRRM@@tree_hugger6921
Stephen has done more than just horror. The Dark Tower is an ambitious fantasy series. Also lots of his books have connections between them.
Its amazing hearing these people talk, just how king was able to recall jk rowlings attire in perfect descriptive detail just shows this man is a born writer, his brain is just wired in a way to observe all he sees
I love how George asks him if he ever gets writer's block, but Stephen King doesn't even understand the question :D
Lmao
Six pages a day is incredible, even for an experienced writer.
Its because there are two types of people in this world. People who let writers block affect them and people who dont. The trick is to just write the best you can and then reread it and refine it.
@@trippasnippa119 yep, I imagine George is a perfectionist and will try to make the best sentence he can before moving on to the next one. I imagine King just writes up everything first, then goes back and changes it to his liking afterwards.
Kind of like a painter who does a wash over the entire canvas vs a painter that details as he goes, and never bothers with a wash at all.
Neither approach is wrong. But I also do think King reuses a lot of tropes, and experiences from his own life. I can think of three books that use alchohol, magic, and wise old African American men. Oh, and something perverted happens to a kid, or a kid does something perverted.
I don't think George likes repeating himself.
@@watertommyz Yeah, and George probably relies on inspiration, which can technically give better results but is inherently based on luck, while Steve can push through even without inspiration, which can result in dull writing but helps get the job done
100 push-ups
100 sit-ups
10km running
And 6 pages a day
I see, you are a man of culture
One Paaaaaaaaaaaage!
And sleeping with the Air conditioning off in the summers
6 page man
Eat only a banana
I love how Stephen King's thumb goes immediately to his nose when George asks that question 0:23 😂
Honestly, these are the two types of artists/writers: the workhorses and the perfectionists, the people who treat it like a job and those who scrutinize every detail and want to make it "perfect".
While I am one of the latter, I respect and stand in awe at the former. I wish I had that type of dedication, that consistency.
"You don't ever have a day where you sit down there and it's like constipation. You write a sentence, and you hate the sentence so you check your email. Then you wonder if you had any talent after all, and maybe you should've been a plumber."
I can relate to this on a spiritual level.
I think most people can
this is procrastination. when you procrastinate, you don't wanna do the thing. yet you waste time. discipline is the key. just start doing stuff without thinking, and you manage to do things, if you simply start. starting in everything is the hard thing, after that you can forget about time and spend hours doing it, even if you are not really into it. treat it like a work you get paid for, and unless you do it, you suffer consequences. it is true, you spend you time wasted. but time is not well measured for humans, so they seem it is not that bad. if you had to compensate out of your wallet for the time you procrastinated, it would be a whole different story. in actuality, this is exactly what you lose, money you could be earning doing something you actually love.
tru e
I’m only a modest student and amateur writer, but it’s true. In school when I had long essays and term papers to write, I never, EVER, started with an intro. I threw down my initial points and thoughts on the screen. I built off of those crucial first sentences. I then continued to write and write and write until I finally came to a solid intro, then the rough draft was done.
I think students who struggle with writing papers think there are all these rules and chronology to writing when it doesn’t matter. There are no rules to structuring your initial writings. Just start! Before you know it, the paper will be completed.
to think that It came from the person who wrote the freaking GOT .
@@true7251 Meh, money is not everything. If you do something you love you wont have this problem in the first place and doing something you love is also much more important than making as much money as possible.
Damn. King writes 6 pages a day and here I am, can't even get the motivation to brush my teeth for 2 minutes
Shiet, i thought i was the only one.
Me too
@@gilgamesh7055 have you changed your ways yet bröther?
You guys know how much this comforts me im not the only oralhygeine unchampion. If i am feeling ill i'll definetely not wash because it'll only make it worse. I'll be sick from the taste. And tbh i feel sick pretty often. And i am quite proud enough for stepping my shower game up. As a depressed petrock im quite satisfied with that achievement at the moment. I take it step by step.
Same here. I write fast because I have an outline but I rarely follow my outline. I take constant detours to my plot goal. I have an outline but I rarely follow it. Most of the time I follow according to the scaffolding of the story, but my characters have a mind of their own.
George: "How do you write books so fast?!"
Stephen: Well it is this and that...
Brandon Sanderson: *writes seven books while watching this video*
Brandon Sanderson escreve sete ÓTIMOS livros enquanto assiste esse vídeo* 😊👍🏻
Can't believe 2 of the most legendary writers are on stage together simply talking...
J. K Rowling: Stephen King and George R. R. Martin had a long and passionate relationship
Oh god, not this again.
Hmm... yeye. Get over it. Tired meme
Dead
Honestly, fuck jkr
@Starscream91 Tell me how exactly is she a "trash".
Kids these days are so quick to label someone as trash and shit. Jumping onto every bandwagon without doing any critical thinking of their own.
Stephen King: I'm going to retire.
Public 18 years later: so this means three books a year and not five?
😂
The war of art. SK sums it up perfectly: show up everyday and get to work.
I also think it’s interesting how SK is really just focused on the next 6 pages. When you’re thinking about a whole universe and multiple story arcs, it can all get just so overwhelming.
I agree with That last paragraph , GRRM strikes me as a bit of a over thinker which might influence his fixation on “perfect” world building. SK doesn’t come across that way.
I've been writing for twenty-five years and love every moment of it. While at the same time, it is frustrating as hell, I'd never give it up for anything.
If GRRM was a plumber he would have repaired 5 sinks by now, most recent one in 2011.
xD
Yeah but they'd be repaired damn good wouldn't they
Hey Jake, I have plumber's block
@@Corc-Duibhne they'll be so good they give water, hail and wine
You know that A Song Of Ice And Fire isn't his only work. He wrote many more stories and novels
I can write 6 pages per day, no problem. It's easy.
The hard part is writing 6 GOOD pages.
Usually it’s not up to the author to decide if those pages are good or not. It’s up to the reader.
@@dragonkamran Not true. An experienced and successful writer has the benefit of knowing what's been considered good in the past. And while success is never a guarantee, a good writer knows his audience and can choose to write what he or she assumes they will like.
teppolundgren Thats propably why SK can't write good endings.
@@mischuwischu4305 Who knows? But I agree that his endings are usually disappointing. In fact, I've had many long conversations with people about that, and they all said the same thing.
@@SpaceCattttt yeah probably I'm dumb but I didn't really get, Revival's ending
Writing six pages a day is his way of pacing himself and keeping the writer’s block at bay.
King almost sounds like a practical 9-5 mentality, rather than the mad impulsive yet brilliant genius you'd think a writer like him would be, lol.
George: "Do you ever get writer's block?.."
Stephen: "Sometimes I have to go to the shop and that"
Writer’s block? What is that? Your computer doesn’t work or something?
@@elisamozo3808 It’s when you can’t the ideas that you want out and you’ve come to a sudden stop.
I was joking, I know what a writer’s block is, but I said it referring how Stephen King apparently never have it. He doesn’t know what writer’s block means
@@elisamozo3808 haha exactly
Hahaha. I didn’t hear the joke at first
“I’ve had a good six months, I’ve written 3 chapters” good god we’re never reading A Dream of Spring
George said after winds of winter he is going to take a break and write other books in the song of ice and fire series. Soo after winds of winter at least another ten years. 😥😥
Alex Bura Does he not realize he’ll die before he finishes the series
Bob Joking aside, he probably will. George is getting up there in years and he's more than a little overweight. Even if he didn't take a break after WoW, there's a good chance he wouldn't live long enough to finish the series. Figure in a hiatus of who knows how long and it's all but guaranteed.
Well. books are about 70-80 chapters. 3 chapters every six months equals about 12 years. Last one came out in 2011.
He already had at least 11 chapters written so next book
2022.
XD
Moral of the story: King finds the time to write, regardless of any day to day chores that come hid way. After he tackles them, he goes back and writes!
All I can do is recommend Stephen King's Memoir "On Writing". He goes into detail on his process, and it's applicable to any vocation.
“6 pages a day?! That’s how much I write in a year!” -George RR Martin’s inner thoughts.
Grrm writes 1 death per six pages
God, that made me laugh, and want to cry a lot inside... If he REALLY only wrote 6 pages in a year, he'd only have 48 pages done. It would take 250 years to write a 1500 page book at that abysmal pace... Assuming my math is correct anyway. He's only 70 now which means to finish this one book in that time period he'd have to live several times longer than his entire life to this point!
Fans: internally screaming
There's more talent in those 6 pages than in a whole King book
@tek O oh yeah.
Stephen King: Has an idea. Makes a book out of that idea.
George Martin: Has an idea. Includes that idea as a subplot of a subplot that is too trivial to form an important part of the main plot, but has raised so many questions that it can't just be dismissed and forgotten about and somehow needs to be worked into the next book and tied into all the other subplots and sub-sub-plots in a plausible and satisfying way.
Taking a decade to fit it in the next book. 😂
@@1b0o0 A decade?
A Clash of Kings came out in 1998 and we still don't know what Patchface was talking about xP
@@RacinZilla003 a Clash of Kings? We still don't know everything about Bran III in Game of Thrones, lol
@@RacinZilla003LOL ol patchy, i had forgotten. Hes probably just Tom Bombadillishly trying to tell everyone he is the real Azor Hai beset by a mermaid curse
Stephen King also writes in satisfying way too. There is just no backstory heavy as George's which makes sense since King has got no series he writes books separately
I think the key here is that George RR Martin feels like if a sentence isn’t good, he can’t write it. If Stephen King feels like a sentence isn’t good, he understands that he can fix it. You can always edit a shitty sentence to make it good, but you can’t edit nothing. So even if King is writing the worst thing he’s ever written and he knows it’s bad and his heart isn’t in it…he also knows that once it’s on the page, he can fix it.
If George RR Martin would let himself write something shitty with that understanding, we’d have the ending of Game of Thrones by now
I was here for this and it was amazing ❤
So "writer's block" for Stephen are basically normal life activities, when he can't sit and write. This guy is on another level.
Ikr. i was waiting for him to tell a scenario where he cant come up with a story but it's just errands which prevented him to write. Amazing
It's all in your head :)
Yeah it's like he didn't even get the question, like he's never experienced a block.
Stephen is a natural so writing is like breathing to him.
For me, writer's block is the same way. I tell people, as soon as I have a life, trouble arises. I never lose ideas for my characters if I keep working on them constantly. But the moment I have a full time job, school to attend, a guy I'm seeing, or any wedge that takes me away from my desk, that's when I have the block. And that's worse than a creative block, because at least with a creative block, you are still sitting at your desk trying to figure out where to go next. Blocks like mine can put me out for months.
Martin is trying to write 100 books at once. He thinks of a character then goes "well what if they had this massive backstory that we explore 4 books from now." Then writing that characters backstory thinks of 10 other characters that need to be fleshed out.
Yeah but I mean it pays off the man is a genius the GoT universe is so intricate and well done
@@bobo-bx8yj But not finished
@@randomdude2026 Neither was Tolkien's works. The man worked his whole life on them and they're severely unfinished. So, yeah, fantasy is quite a hard one to fully finish, since these are different Universes.
@@tywinlannister6768 Tolkien finished Lord of the Rings. He may have continued to work on his world of Arda throughout his whole life but he finished the story of his trillogy. ASOIAF isn't finished.
@@randomdude2026 nor will it be, a story sometimes can be difficult to finish, due to its various plot-lines. My point was that neither works are finished, since the story doesn't end where the books end, they have too many others adjacent.
You can tell king thinks like a writer constantly. The level of detail in describing Rowling when he's just telling a story from memory. When's the last time you told a little story from your life to a friend or coworker and described the clothes and hairstyle of the people in the story? Most people just get to the funny part or the juicy bits. King sets the scene, gives you the details. A life time of habit isn't so easily broken.
I am deeply deeply grateful for Stephen Kings work ethic, what would have we missed out on, had he only written like 10books. Thank you Stephen for never never getting lazy and writing down those beautiful (and not so beautiful ;-)) things in your head!
Stephen King’s explanation of how he writes so fast is the author equivalent of Saitama explaining how he got so powerful.
"Impossible! That can't be the secret behind his power. That's just a normal level!"
This fits so well it hurts
Best comment
normal shit over a period of time done efficiently enough has extremely big returns.
Truest comment on here!
I can’t believe George r r Martin wonders if he should’ve been a plumber
I wonder how many plumbers would have written books just as good had they not asked that same question
he'd kill it tho'. 😏😂
robert lalremruata he would 😂👍🏼
The dude is pretty much Mario
Nope. He should have been a mall Santa...
He doesn’t stop a project to work on a different project. King completes what he starts!
This is a question I’ve been wondering, thanks George.
J. R. R Tolkien: Hahahaha. Look at you! I'm dead and still releasing new books!!
Wtf hahaha
Yeah, but also...
The Hobbit 1939
The Lord of the Rings 1954
The Simarilian 1970 something.
I'm glad I wasn't waiting for book three 🤣
Still the master of them all.
Tolkien: ... and my language I invented will replaced English. America soon will have languages as compulsory omitting English.Middle Earth and Klingon.
@Franklin Franklinson you suck :3
3:19 Stephen King starts talking about meeting J K Rowling: *accidentally writes a chapter describing her appearance*
Nah man. He actually tried to comfort Martin's slow writing.
That's a real writer. He described how she looked and you can visualize exactly how she looked.
Isaac O ikr, didn’t even notice
I remember one of most famous King's quote: adverb is not your friend.
He'll never write Joe Rowling looks like a tired housewife. He's gonna explain what does tired mean in that context lol.
Like he wrote a full chapter about that dog in Gerald's Game
@@Iao74185 thanks for explaining the joke. i don't think we would have understood otherwise.
I love King. He's got so many great books. Just finished The Stand this past summer, so good. Read all HP books and on the 3rd GoT book.
My two fav authors! I love 'em. I love 'em so much!
Imagine writing the rest of game of thrones... damn that pressure would be insane
That's why he won't 👍
Imagine the pressure of writing the rest of Game of Thrones if the series was waiting for you rather than carrying on without you
I don't have to. I'm seeing it over the next six weeks...
@@amandadamatta_ he won't finish one of the most complex and best fantasy book series ever made, because the pressure is too high? fuck that he is not far from becoming one of the most known writers of all time and gives a shit because of that reason? Ridiculous for real..
Amanda Pinheiro pretty unlikely that he won’t finish it. He is a very skilled writer that has plenty of material to work with. It will just take a while because of his meticulous nature. Which is the whole reason for his work being so good in the first place. People have to just respect his work and give him time, they will not be disappointed.
Stephen King writes 6 pages a day while it takes me 6 days to think of what to write in a 500 word essay🤦♂️
Don't forget, practice makes perfect. Just keep writing ;)
Also this is his job. Imagine having nothing to do in a day other than writing 6 pages. 3-4 hours of work a day isn't too bad.
In order to write you must read alot before
still faster than George RR Martin
@@chaoticevilmonk2223 he got himself in that position because of his work, not the other way around. He didn't start his career as a best seller with plenty of time to create, he had to make sacrifices and find the time to write his first book.
commitment and consistency is the recipe for success for everything
This is always fascinating to see. Two (or more) masters of their craft - talking about it - as equals.
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“What do we say to the God of writing? Not today.”
Movie Effects Pro You have officially written one of the best comments I will ever read in my life.
@@caz5800 For real
I love this I love this a lot
Quite possibly the greatest comment of all time.
Stephen King writes quickly because he rarely outlines or plots. He rarely has any idea what the story or characters will do and just lets them unfold under his fingertips. That makes writing a much more spur of the moment experience for him.
Very similar to GRRM, actually. The thing is, on the way, he crafted a lot of lore, and still wrote like that. Which is awesome on the one hand, on the other it's the reason there's so many different new plot lines in the books that he probably lost oversight of them.
@Suleymen Amanzholtegi what?
@Suleymen Amanzholtegi I think the guy was just confused cause you didn't put the "know" after the "don't"
What I got from this is that King treats writing like a 9 to 5
Suleymen Amanzholtegi Not necessarily. For the more conservative writer, outlines serve as the crux of the process. Nonetheless, for those more liberal, it’s more so the spur of the moment. It ultimately depends on what the creator is trying to pen in the first place, however.
George: “How the fuck do you write so fast?!?”
King: “Well, you know, I plan to write quickly every day, and then I do it.”
Love listening to Mr King
king writes like fire
martin writes like ice
Mind blown.
Rudyard Cashman your mind 🤯
And JK Rowling wrote the song of ice and fire
@@sashanksiwakoti5007 No J.K Rowling wrote that Dumbledore is gay.
@@TheStraightestWhitest yeah melancholic wizard who had an intensely sexless relationship with a bad wizard who was more horny for evil than he was for Dumbledore.
Maybe if we give him another R. Than he could write 33% faster...
(Gamer Bros) MaximuZ712 I said “George R. R. R. Martin in my head and actually cackled out loud
I dont get it
@@ilprincipe8094 He has 2 R's, gets another R, thus writes 1/3th faster.
Give George a back of kings magic white powder and he will crank out the books
@@thomaslinssen1426 ye but what does R mean
Two enterily different approachs, two masters of their craft, that is the type of videos which really give something worthy to the tube.
Creativity comes in waves.. sometimes u start slow then u flying thru whatever and u look up and u done....it's easier when the idea is fresh in your head cuz u just extending the train of thought...sometimes u get inspired sometimes something sparks a memory...
To most outsiders it sounds ridiculous, but to write even one page per day is a challenge in itself, especially if you are unexperianced.
*Inexperienced.
I write books-one Page is fine if you háve time. 3 pages is my average and more is only when i háve a good mood.
I can tell you're unexperianced, based on how you spell it.
Just kidding.
@@Ryroe i think that was kinda the punchline for the joke
Just bang the keys lad
"I need the paychecks, George, my addictions are expensive"
The cocaine has consumed me, George.
You’re both morons.
They’re just having fun.
😂😂😂💀
Americans 🤦🏾♂️
He does answer the question. He says entropy has a way of trying to disrupt the flow. JK Rowling pulled aside by a publisher when she's meant to be sound-checking, while also on holiday. The fact that writing really is a mystery, and you just have to show up and do the 6 pages. It's not about understanding it, just try to protect it.
two legends but king builds stories beautifully and Martin builds worlds beautifully
If you read his book On Writing, King is the type of writer of writes on instinct. He doesn't really plan much, he just starts writing and lets his skill and experience carry him through. He likens it to excavating a dinosaur out of the ground. The dinosaur is in there, you don't know exactly what it is, but it's in there. Then it's just up to the skill of the excavator to get it out in one piece without breaking it. That explains why his books sometimes vary wildly in quality and even his best stuff tends to be long, rambling pieces of fiction that somehow captivates you even though it's bonkers. I guess he might be one of the most naturally gifted writers of all time. If he wasn't such a legend, I think many of his books would be heavily edited and shortened by an editor. Now they just let him do what he wants because he's Stephen King.
True.
Yeah, pretty much the reason why his books are garbage.
@@enio9477 Well, that's whatcha think. I think his books are amazing, and so do a lot of other people. No need to act edgy. :b
Not even Stephen King is free from editors, and no writer should be. But they probably are much more open towards his ideas than to newcomers. Just like when he re-released The Stand with two hundred deleted pages.
@Jake Sangria That's what I just said. And still, I disagree, his novels are (at least half of the time) amazing.
This interview showed me a lot of how George views himself, I gained a lot of respect for him here.
Never knew he had such a full blown imposter syndrome, pretty sad.
@@adamn9028 let's not diagnose people that quickly, everyone has doubts...
@@ugabuga2586 i dont know if imposters syndrome is a mental illness that requires a diagnosis. Does it? I always thought its a sentiment someone's holds not so much a disorder. (A pretty common one at that too)
@@nicky592 It's not a mental illness, everyone feels it from time to time. Even the most arrogant person in the world feels it once in awhile.
@@nicky592 Yeah, imposter syndrome isn't an illness any more than buyer's remorse or "big fish in a little pond" syndrome. Labelling a human experience doesn't make it an illness.
As a writer I can feel How George can feel self conscious of his work sometimes even tho his is nothing I could compare to
A truly great man. I have been reading his work for over thirty years and I have to say it has changed my life. I am the slow to learn to read and write young man in The Dead Zone and he is Johnny Smith. Read the book and get the reference.
Stephen King is incredible popping out 2-3 books a year consistently for some time now. Writing for him is almost like stream of consciousness now.
penoyer79 yeah cuz he’s been writing the same five stories over and over for the past 20 years.
The man has written so many books, and as a huge huge fan of his, he definitely hits a lot of the same beats with his stories. I don’t think it’s a bad thing but he has his style down pretty precisely at this point. I don’t think there are many writers as prolific as he is.
And even now he doesn't know how to write a good ending
@@notgonnapay What a stupid fucking comment. Not even close.
@@albertshepard4084 Ignore that comment, they're obviously clueless. Most people think that King was just a horror writer and that's just plain wrong. He also wrote The Shawshank Redemption, The Green Mile, Stand by Me (The Body), and 11/22/63, just to name a few of his non-horror workings.
King is not only passionate, he is very disciplined. Very routine. He treats writing as his job. I think that’s why he’s able to do it.
Discipline is 100% the best way to put it. He doesnt do it because he wants to, he writes like he does because he has to.
@@kevincreech6880 Well he did say once that it would kill him not to. I think that's the difference.
Your talking about a guy who discovered he wrote an entire novel high on cocaine and didnt even remember
This is the way to write, especially if you have a hard time finishing things or want to be a professional. It needs to transcend just being a hobby and become a part of you. Where not doing it will literally cause you pain.
And GRRM is sadly a fat fuck whose blood has turned into mayonnaise. I’m so sad that I’ll never find out how ASOIAF ends.
As a writer myself, I think this has less to do with the type of stories they produce and more to do with their individual personalities. I have two writer modes: robotic, can't stop writing even if I'm trying to sleep or take a shower mode OR can't really write anything/no motivation mode. It is what it is. I don't pressure myself with the artistic process because that would ruin my love for what I do and it would result in crappy writing.
dude George talking about not liking a sentence and then spiraling off fucking killed me, that shits so accurate
Martin: "How you write so fast"
King: "Git Gud"
Martin: *laughs psychotically*
Elden Ring: *hold my beer*
Also King: well, what is it?
@@colossaltitan3546 I'm still holding that beer
King did also say that there are books and then there are books. I think the meaning is creating a Universe and writing a story are different ideas.
King: "I try to write 6 pages a day"
GRRM: "Hold up, 6 sentences a day? You're kidding, right?"
King: "No, 6 pages a day"
GRRM: "Wow, 6 words a day. That's a lot"
King: "No, George, I said 6 *pages* a day"
GRRM: "Well, good for you, writing a whole 6 letters a day"
King: "Are you deaf? 6 *PAGES* a day!"
GRRM: *visible confusion*
😂🤣 I can't handle this comment.
😂😂😂😂😂
GRRM: "BUT how many POV Characters do you have and how many unnecessary subplots within subplots that won't be answered for another 3 books?"
King: "Like 5 at most maybe and I don't do that many subplots unless it directly ties into the book and is resolved within that book."
GRRM: "But, but you play kill off important main characters right? Like build them up then kill them shattering the audience right?"
King: "Yeah, a lot of writers have done that since Homer, there's nothing special about when you do it, George."
GRRM:....................Do you at least have incest in your books, lots and lots of it?
King: I think we're done here
epic joke,i laughed out loud HAHA!
Tadicuslegion78 we get it, you don’t like him. But many people love the complexity of Martin’s books and he kills main characters much more than in any other book I’ve ever read.
Hey Stephen King!! Thanks for donating to the kids playground out in orange. My daughter loves it! Glad you chose to film in the town I was born in. I happened to be born in an ambulance outside of the “ castle rock church “ love the stories.
I bought his Memoir on writing and MY GOD he has such a way with words I'm so intrigued
"How do you write so many books so fast?!"
"So anyway, I started blasting. "
Best comment today
😄😄😄😄
Your fucking joke doesn't even have sense
@@alvarorojas5515 you don't understand
*snorting*
George's books have become so complex it's hard for him to find a way to finish every arc. That's why his work is taking so long.
@Thelastmemelord Lol it's not like we can change it
Thelastmemelord Lol The Winds of Winter is coming out this year, a dream of spring however we’ll probably never see
@@saloonboone we will lmao don't worry
Plot twist: Still better than Season 8
@@charlespuruncajas9663 That's not a plot twist. That's just to be expected.
Stephen king is like the kid who can get through school breezily and easily and Martin is the kid that has to study everything to get the same result. That’s how I’m seeing this at least, both are living legends.
Lol. What?? No. Stephen king just writes a lot. Some are good. Some are bad. He doesn’t breeze through school. He’s the kid that gets a C average, so he can enjoy his life and do a lot more things, while George studies all the time, so he could only get A’s. Stephen could get all A’s if he wanted to. But he doesn’t want to, for whatever personal reason. He wants an entire library. George is obsessive and spends way more time, and just wants one single shelf.
You’re literally saying that George is the kid that’s not as smart as everyone else, so he has to put in much more effort, to get the same result as the kid who has it easy? .George writes entire fictional universes. With 100’s of characters, and entire lives and backstories. Any decision he makes, has to match EVERYTHING he has EVER written in that universe, and it will have a ripple effect going forward, forever. One choice and 50 characters lives are changed. And it all has to be grounded in some sort of reality.
These two don’t even go to the same type of school. What you are missing is, George CHOOSES to study everything. He could write like Stephen, and “breeze” through. But he doesn’t want to. He chose an entirely different path. Neither path is wrong. It’s just choice.
But you make it seem like both “students” just fell into the types of school lives they lead. So if you even read all of this, Sorry for the rant. but I’m big on analogies, and yours just really bothered me.
If you’re going with the school analogy, George is taking all AP classes, while Stephen chose the normal class path. Both end up with A’s in the end, and both graduate with the same high school degree, but one had study longer and harder, to get that A.
@@jamesbizs Christ, who cares? It was my own opinion, I don’t care for yours.
@@jamesbizs you: *unintelligible crying*
This video is five years old, and there still hasn't been a new Game of Thrones book.
"George we're going to have to wrap this up pretty soon"
- Every ASOIAF fan right now
@@Miketheratguy Tell that to George and he'll say "F*** you"
@@Miketheratguy Your entire writing ability couldn't hold a candle to a single sentence of George's intricate masterpiece. He built an entire world, it's hard to fathom what goes into that.
He has to juggle dozens of storylines, character motivations, locations and other complexities like consistency and symbolism in a perfectly woven web. Entitled people like yourself are sickening and don't understand how to cherish and appreciate anything George created for us. You don't deserve the final two books.
He got into writing ASOIAF as a hobby, a way to spread happiness and a way to share his world with others. Not to meet the demands of nobodies and be pressured into writing. This is art and that demands respect and patience.
also rumours say he's causing the delay of Elden Ring ;-;
@@Miketheratguy So he has a great mind, people purchase his ideas(his books) on their own will. Doesn't mean he owes any of you creativity lacking fuck-ups anything.
@@dawn-blade What did Miketheratguy say about GRRM? I'm just curious.
Stephen King: "Here's the thing, ok. There are books and there are books."
*Genius! Write that down!*
Edit to those pointing out the obvious: Yes, I'm aware of what he means by this.
Take notes class
He’s saying that Martin’s books are not just like any book, they are on a whole other level. There are books then there is Fire and Ice
@@chadtomassetti714 If you jump, you might reach the joke.
Zeus, King of Olympus Don’t start acting like you understand now after it’s laid out. It’s too late lol
He forgot to mention books.
I wish the news would make more videos of famous authors asking each other questions about their work.
2 legendary writers!
George's description of J.K. Rowling would've been at least three chapters longer...
And three-quarters of it would have been a description of what he was eating at the time.
And ten times more interesting
That's not really true. Martin's books aren't long because he lingers on details. They're long because his stories go off on tangents and digressions, and he spends too much time elaborating in his world-building. But he doesn't elaborate by going into long descriptions, he elaborates by telling an entire sub-story that explores each and every area he's interested in.
@@WalterLiddyHis chapters where he describes what ppl eat for dinner are so detailed I'm full after I read it.
i feel like most people who say that haven´t even read the books. I mean, sure he is detailed but its not as bad as people say.
Wow. I can’t believe that RR Martin suffers from imposter syndrome. That’s really humbling.
Does he? Has he been diagnosed or are you just implying that? Not sure I am curious enough to search and validate it on google but just enough to ask here.
@@jessicagomez1760 you don't know what imposter syndrome is don't you..
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😂
@@g.k.9686 it's when you think you're not that good in something and sometimes your anxiety makes you even question if you have any skills in the thing you're doing at all, eventhough you're really good, to the point you can think you don't deserve your success and feel a little bit like an imposter who tricked people into thinking you have talent.
And you can tell he has it from what he said when he asked Stephen King do you ever write a sentence and hate it and wonder if you have any talent at all and should probably have been a plumber instead.
The guy is considered the living king of fantasy novels, no one thinks he should have been a plumber, meanwhile he has the self-consciousness of a teenage writer on wattpad.
And idk the way he talks and the questions he asks make it seem like he feels somehow inferior to Stephen King which seem completely absurd to us considering his success and talent
Mr Martin so humble and adorable
I went to this live and loved it
Nobody :
J.K Rowling : Stephen King and George RR Martin were gay all along
Nobody:
JK Rowling: You, the reader, had been gay all along.
I full on ugly laughed at this comment for five minutes before I could click reply, and then another five laughing at the reply. Ten minutes gone, but well spent I guess. 😂
and*
@@brandenmccutchen1412 That's exactly what would happen to a gay replier.
Anyone can explain me why the meme of "gay" with J. K. Rowling? Sos, i saw this meme a lot, and idk why exits this meme(?