Martin is not neccessarily slow. He has so many characters and settings to deal with in WoW that it's become incredibly difficult to weave all of these threads into a satisfying story. ASOIAF is technically like 10 stories happening in the same world, at the same time and they influence each other. I can't even begin to fathom how stressful this must be
@@GodOfWar5528 He dug himself a massive hole. The first 3 books were very tight and great.. after that the trembling that led to nowhere started. I have no clue how he can possibly wrap this up in just 2 more books and GRRM doesn't know either. Maybe we do indeed get Winds this year, but I honestly don't expect him to finish the series.
@@yessir.7937 Since the big problem is converging book 4-5 into one sequel, book 7 should be easier when it comes to organization (the biggest problem here). I don't know if he has time to it though.
Pooping Buffalo after season 7 I decided to read the paperback books and just finished a storm of swords. I feel like I'm the envy of all my friends lmao
I never got the a ppeal to the show and it bugs thr hell out of me cause on paper it'd everything I love. But watching it was like watching band of brothers if you made it even longer longer and focused on random stuff for way to long.
I’ve never seen the show but I’m about to start the A Song of Ice and Fire soon and that’s exactly what I said. I read all the Lord of the Rings books, then I read ALL the Dune books and then thought, ‘hmmm I wonder how much more I can hurt my neck, ah I’ll read the fucking George R. R. Martin books’. I have to say, after reading the back of all the books I am SO EXCITED to read these. First I have to finish the Hellhole Triology. If you guys haven’t read the Dune series (I mean the WHOLE expanded series by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson) I REALLY suggest them. After A Song of Ice and Fire I’m gonna end up breaking my neck cause next I’ll read the expanded Ringworld series and The Expanse series.
Friendly reminder that Stephen King got so frustrated with the process of writing his first novel that he gave up and threw the incomplete manuscript in the bin. His wife fished it out, read it, and convinced him to finish it. He did, it sold and was titled Carrie. So - although he is kind of an insane writing robot now, even he has had moments of insecurity and frustration with his writing . So if you’re struggling - keep going !
To be honest, I kinda prefer Joe Hill's writing to Stephen King's. Both are amazing though (despite some weaker books on King's track list - but with that kind of outpunt that's bound to happen).
Ralf Zaitsev Spot on. I was reading the first book, a few pages in, and a little kid gets slaughtered. Shit got real right there. Every page turn I was afraid for my favorites.
@@coffeemachtspass I remember a while ago when the TV series was just starting, someone photoshopped the image of Sean Bean sitting on the throne to make the title Don't Get Too Attached. Never has an alternate title been truer.
Two giants of literature. King for horror and Martin for fantasy. For a bookworm like me, this is simply awesome to see these two authors share the same stage.
"You don’t ever have a day where you sit down there and it’s like constipation, and you write a sentence, and you hate the sentence? And you check your email and you wonder if you had any talent after all, and maybe you should have been a plumber? Don’t you ever have days like that?” >> George RR Martin is me trying to write my essays.
George is so relatable. Common writing advice is just to get words on paper and then heavily edit everything later, but that rarely works for me. Seems like George's brain works the same way.
The fact that he kills off all his characters is a common misconception. It's played up to dramatic levels in the television adaption. There's actually a lot of characters who have been killed on screen that are still alive in the books. As far as the starks go (present day era, anyways) there have been only two that died, ned and robb. Three if you count catelyn, and even that is debatable considering what your definition of "alive" is. The jury's still out on rickon & benjen lol
King would write his half tomorrow afternoon, Martin would still be writing his by the time the film adaptation of the first half was on its fifth sequel.
@@rev6215 Its understandable but the weird part is he has been writing a ton of lore in the past 10 years. I get the impression that if it wasn't for the fact that he knows fans would be angry he would not only write but be close to finish if he had been writing his supposed 10-12 part Duncan Egg series that he wants to finish after the main series. Either something really bad happened after season 4 beyond them going past the book in several of the story lines. Or he has written himself into a corner where his version of events and how to get to the ending has become overly complicated by so many POVs. Its a great and unique way of telling essentially 10+ stories inside one story. But he stated that book 5 took so much extra time because of an event having too many POV characters in it and not knowing how to write it in a way that made sense for the overall narrative along with the individual stories. That problem in hindsight was obviously just going to grow because while obviously many more POV characters are going to have to die. But even his mosts shocking twist deaths never feel like you were just 2/3rds of a way into that persons story and then for plot convenience they die. It will feel shocking in the moment but ultimately make sense. Nor does he drag his feet so you see it coming and pull a show Little finger who managed to live 6 more episodes than he realistically should have just to give the show some winterfell drama. So needs a satisfying and logical way of using another "wedding". However he is still going to need to bring all the characters to Westoros for either a conflict with Cersei or Gryff. And either find a believable way of killing all the white walkers, or strike the same deal that their forfathers likely had which kept them staying in the north. If mans world either stopped doing their part, or the deal wasn't past properly on during their long slumber. The deal likely being giving them enough children for a set time to keep their species alive.
@@dcworld4349 I’d imagine his solution to the white walkers means abandoning Westeros entirely. That’s the only way to have a completely different narrative than the show. Finding a new land with new ppl and new magical beings.
@@BostonsF1nest Nah D&D messed up, but they didn't mess up so badly that they come up with their own completely original ending. The characters who are alive and dead, and how they got there by the end might be different. But three things are guaranteed, Dany will go mad, Jon will kill her and Bran will be King. I've suspected the reason the whites as they are known in the books, are coming because humanity broke their agreement with them of getting a certain portion of children sent to them because they can't repopulate on their own. But the humans doesn't know that they have broken anything since it was such a long time ago and people stopped believing they exsisted at all. The big question will be what is Martin's plan of killing them since so far there is no Night King for them to just simply kill like a Star Wars base that destroys the rest. I have a suspicion it could possibly have something to do with Dany and Jon having a baby if Martin's plan is to have her go mad over something more understandable. Having their kid being used via the lord of light or something like that. But it's not like I think that is a guarantee, just the closest theory I have so far.
@@dcworld4349 Bran being king is the dumbest thing ever lol. I hate how that unfolded the most out of anything. Should be Jon. Jon being forced to be the king is a worse punishment for him than being sent back to the wall. He’s great at ruling but his humility won’t allow him to accept that he’s probably their best option.
And then have Stephen King write a novel about how it all went horribly wrong. Tolkien comes back, but he's... different. Unhinged somehow. He mauls a few people, then blows his own head off with a shotgun. Then, the necromancer who reanimated Tolkien tries to take over the world with a zombie army
Dr: Sorry Mr. King, but you have cancer. Stephen King: How long do I get to live? Dr: 6 months. Stephen King: Good, that's 120 more books I can publish right there.
Jarl Adolf well, he doesn’t write fast, but is very determined to meet his writing quota and constantly writes about 1,800 words a day now-and he considers that slow since at his peak he wrote 3,000 a day
Let's all rejoice that King is alive he's lived both through heavy drug abuse and been involved in a car accident and he is still active and writing which is a miracle. He is definately one of the most prolific writers of the twentieth century and a father and reinventor of horror novels.
Well there are no right or wrong answers when it comes to taste. I read a few of Stephen King's books when I was a teenager and didn't care for them too much. They were simple reads and nothing too special about them. His writing is very average in my opinion. I rather read RL Stine's "Goosebumps" series than anything written by Stephen King. His writing could have changed since I was a teenager, I will never know. George RR Martin on the hand is a master writer like Tolkien. His stories are engaging, makes you feel like his characters are your friends and when they die you actually feel bad because of all the time you've invested reading them and the journeys they took you on. Stephen King's writing feels rushed because he writes books very fast instead of taking his time like George RR Martin and it shows. But hey, it's all opinion anyways and I like Alexandre Dumas's work over any book written that I have read so far. If you don't know who he is, he has written books like "Count of Monte Cristo", "The Man in the Iron Mask", and "The Three Musketeers." Check em' out if you get the chance. Very good books.
MickyMicky Mike To think Stephen King is average is a matter of taste (although I have to strongly disagree). But to say George R R Martin is ANYTHING close to Tolkien is a huge blasphemy. Tolkien is like one of the greatest writers on earth. George R R Martin wrote a pretty cool story and that's all.
King is a living legend. No other author can take me to the places he can, his ability to dive into the psychology of a character is nothing short of breathtaking.
@@amberkry955 I have not heard of that 1 but I am a King fan. Thank you for posting. I will check that out! Have you read Gwen's button Box? It is fantastic.
George's description of a bad day's writing echoes precisely, almost to the letter, one of my own many such days. Gives me hope that if he experiences it like that, then it's okay that I do too.
@@amelancholybear1534 Thanks Michael. I'm still plugging away at it on the down low. Writing a video game I'm making with some friends. Means the book I'm writing gets less attention. But hey, still a lot of fun.
@@ThePrecipice66 I took stephen king comment to heart. I obviously are not talented or have enough time to write 6 pages a day, I have to work and stuff. But I do try to squeez one or two pages if possible everyday at night. And when he said "there are books and there are books" I came to understand it as, there are some books that are much harder to write than others, but I still try to get to six pages of work a day. So what I end up doing is having a few writing projects at the same time, let say two that are hard and one that is easier, and so when I am stuck in a hard philosophical issue of my book, maybe I want the story to be very tight and precise, that is when I jump into my easier project that I don't take too seriously and that I will likely not even try to publish or the one I already settled on the story, so that at the end of the day I do kind of get those one or two pages. At the end the practice, knowledge and discipline from continuing writing the easier books, helps me tremendously with the harder more complex books.
That's the kind of discipline you need to succeed I think so well done to you mate. Pretty much every writer interview I've seen emphasises the need to keep writing regularly like that.
@@ThePrecipice66Yeah, writing is not different from any other art, the more you practice the better you get at it. I've seen a lot of first writers obsessed with writing a master piece, get published and earn money. And they end up facing a lot of writing problems that they haven't faced before and get stuck. Of course there exist a lot of people that do just write their first book and it is an instant masterpiece, but they are often english majors (or majors in their respective language), journalists, columnists or the like. People that have written a lot before. I've heard some advise from youtubers to new writers saying something like, if you want to write a book, then first you should start writing lore and back story, character profiles and the like. And I honestly think it is terrible advise for a first project, you might not even enjoy writing, that is an easy way of prolonging writing for weeks or indefinitely. If someone wants to start writing and have some rough story in mind, I think they should just start writing in whatever way you think is best, develop some discipline and as you write you will start developing what methods work best for your style of writing. No matter how good they think their first idea is, the ideas will just get better as they get use to story telling.
Agreed! George R R Martin's laughs like hundred year old aged-wine, a very textured laugh like the sort of laugh your grandpah might give on a winter's night while sitting by a warm fireplace
Don'tLetYourMemesBeSteelDreams Goddamn right! We live by the 10 commandments of writing: 1. Sit your ass in the chair! 2. Thou shalt not bore the reader. 3. Remember to keep the holy your writing time. 4. Honor the lives of your characters. 5. Thou shalt NOT be obscure. 6. Thou shalt show and not tell. 7. Thou shalt steal! 8. Thou shalt rewrite and rewrite again. And again. 9. Thou shalt confront the human condition. 10. Be sure that every death in a story means something!!
@Rob T you seem painfully ignorant. See how your unfettered capitalism has gotten you. The people are bled bry and the corporations keep getting tax cuts, you fkin imbecile
I'm watching in 2017 & these 2 authors I'm learning are legendary...I have been almost illiterate for 1/2 my adult life but put myself back into school with encouragement from new friends and family in laws. It's been almost 4 years since my first English class and now I feel proud to say I'm reading my first Stephen King book, The Shining Wow I came back in 2020 read these comments and how many likes thank you so much for the encouragement and just an FYI The shining scared the s*** out of me
King has given the same advice his entire career, if you want to write, then WRITE. Don't worry about quality, don't worry about content, just put words to paper (or screen...), get used to doing it. King wrote until his fingers bled back in the 70's before anyone knew his name, and was rejected over and over again until he got better and got bites. J.K. Rowling got turned down by dozens of publishers because nobody gave a crap about her "Harry Potter" book. Honestly the grind is what will bring success, not some idea of raw talent or luck, but plugging away at it til you become a master. I'd not like to guess at how many pages King wrote before anyone cared to pay him a dime for them.
+Haplo17 thanks for this. Even all the more reason to really nail down on this. I actually just submitted my first story to Clarkesworld about a few hours ago. I had already had written it from before, but I deemed it worthy enough.
Good luck, I couldn't mean it more. The world needs more stories and people with the spine to put their work out there and face rejection after rejection until they make it. If not...well, almost nobody succeeds right out the gate :)
I believe the entire universe was created just for this moment where George RR Martin, the world's slowest writer, would ask Stephen King how the f* he writes so many books so fast
I am always amazed at how little folks know about King and how many types of books he's written. He is not a horror writer...he's a writer who writes horror along with about six or seven other genres.
So, so true. He is one of my favourite authors, but I actually don't consider him my favourite HORROR author - that title goes to Clive Barker. But nobody that I've read writes about human nature the way King does, and that's what makes his work so good to me. He doesn't write horror; he writes stories about people facing horrors - sometimes these are supernatural, often they are simply everyday human horrors.
I don't know why so many of the comments here want to suggest that one guy is great writer and one is a hack. They both write popular books with very different styles. King is certainly far more prolific. Here's prolific compared to nearly any writer; he started writing during cocaine binges and even though he's off the coke, writing is still something that's an "addiction for him. Everybody knew his supposed retirement wouldn't last. He'll be writing till he's literally not able to anymore. Martin is a different writer. He enjoys world building more then propelling a primary narrative. People accuse him of being lazy, but the truth is he was writing at a decent pace before he became internationally famous. I think it's clear the sudden superstardom so late in life has disrupted his writing routine and he's struggling with it. They're both good writers who write different things in different ways. They're clearly both fans of each other's work. "To Kill a Mockingbird" was one of the greatest novels ever written, and other then a few small pieces in college, Harper Lee never wrote anything else. No one says that makes her a bad writer. Shakespeare wrote a fuckload of plays. No one says his prolific output (including a few clunkers) makes him a bad writer. If you want to see two writers talking shit to each other, look for George Martin vs JRR Tolkien or Stephen King vs Edgar Allen Poe
Martin would just spend the time praising Tolkien for middle earth, one of his biggest influences. But i do get your point. You didn't name a bad writer there, certainly no hacks, regardless of what some nobodies on here tried say.
I know this will sound weird to some people and to some they will sadly know where I'm coming from. Stephen King saved my sanity as a teenager. When i read his books i could leave my horrible home life for a few chapters at a time. When people talk about his drug/alcohol abuse. He's human. Shit happens. Mr. King is the one who told us He had a problem. He's overcome His addictions and is a better man for it. Be like STEPHEN KING!
As an aspiring author I could listen to these two men talk for hours. They’re such an inspiration to me and the fact they had this discussion in the first place is amazing!!!
@@MikeRoberts1964 I’m aware of that I just love listening to other authors. I literally write everyday & am writing a series right now & I’ve been able to further it & improve it because of talks by George R R Martin. So I’m not only watching but taking notes & so much more.
What King basically said is that he is a disciplined man. 6 pages a day is his goal. Different writers use different methods, but King is a disciplined man, and we can appreciate that.
I honestly don't think King is even the fastest when it comes to consistency. Sanderson says he writes 8 hours every day almost. He's published almost 20 books in 10 years and they are by no means small books
All GRRM has to do is write 3-5 pages a day for a year (about 1500 pages total) and he will prob. finish both books 6 and 7 before the show ends and spoils the main book arc. If he doesnt, his legacy will be tarnished because of his own inability to focus. 1 year of focus and seclusion GRRM.... That's all you need to do, and then you can retire and enjoy your life as one of the best (and richest) fantasy writers ever.
Damn this really puts writing as a whole in perspective for me. I'm currently writing a novel and damn this shit is intense! I can understand when king says that you get this package of creativity in your heart and as you write it just expands and bam 7 hours have went by and in one day I've written 2 chapters. I don't even know if I'm good at this shit but damn if it ain't fun to do. Wish me some luck guys and gals, have a great day!
Iv attempted writing but it is hard. I find myself getting bored if I'm on the same subject and try to do something else at the same time but end up scrapping the idea
I feel very privileged for being alive at the same time as 2 of the most arguably best writers to date. also shout out to harry potter, narnia and obviously hobbit/lord of the rings.
The first Stephen King story I ever read was Graveyard Shift and as read it, I could see the rats and hear them and it was so real I had to put the book down and that was when I knew Steohen King is one of the greatest writers ever.
@David Smith really any stephen king short story is scary. Ironically it's the same thing as GRRM, it's horrifying because you don't know where the story is going. I still have memories about reading King stories for the first time
I actually decided to write my own book. The temporary name of the book is "The Flame". It will be a good thriller mystery and horror book. WISH ME LUCK.
@@divya6911Stephen king has written some of the best stories in the last 40 years. Some of them have become amazing movies. Stand by me, It, Shawshank redemption, the green mile
I read everything Stephen King wrote until about the time I finished college in the mid-80's. No particular reason... I was just interested in reading other things. But listening to this interview has inspired me to pick him back up again. No way will I attempt to read all his books since then, but a few at least.
His Mercedes-Bill Hodges trilogy is pretty good, not very much supernatural in it but very suspenseful. I liked it and Duma Key, Bag of Bones, Misery, and the Kennedy story 11/22/63. Did not like The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon, or Dreamcatcher.
I really feel like Martin misunderstood Tolkien's view of evil. One of the foundational concepts of the trilogy is the overcoming of the evil within every individual heart, especially pride and the evil that it leads to. The real threat to the races of Middle Earth was their pride that stopped them from working together. There was never any doubt that, together, they would be able to win.
exactly. George is talking about he main conflict of the story. Sauron is evil and he created a ring that needed to be destroyed. That's the most basic gist of the story
This interview is magic. Both author mean a lot to me for different reasons. George gave me a 5 book escape and Mr King gave me nightmares and unforgettable characters.
What a great interview. One of the best moments for me is at the end when George asks Stephen how he writes so many books, the way George is _literally_ sitting on the edge of his seat, eagerly awaiting his answer, is truly delightful; it really speaks to how much he respects and values King's ideas/perspective. Awesome stuff.
A lot of people expect Martin to speed up because of two people, Frank Herbert of Dune & Robert Jordan of Wheel of Time. Both writers passed away before they can even finish their respective series. Even bigger concern is seeing these two books completed by whom fans consider as "hack" writers; Dune by Herbert's son, Brian & co-writer Kevin J. Anderson; and Wheel of Time by Brandon Sanderson. The ghosts of Herbert & Jordan shouldn't be hung over Martin by worried fans, and his work shouldn't suffer for that. Let Martin write at whatever pace he's able of.
GRRM has specifically stipulated in his book contract (and/or maybe his actual will, I think?) that if he were to die before ASOIAF is finished, no one is allowed to touch it.
Hack writer? Sanderson? Have you read any of his books besides the Wheel of Time volumes he completed? His mistborn books are great. The beginning of his wheel of time esque Stormlight Trilogy series is amazing. He just writes differently than Jordan.
I think that maybe (I hope) there might be books released aftewards aswell, and that George want's it as a surprise. I know in some interviews he has said he has a frequent dialog with a certain couple who know the story "better than he does" - remember every line of dialog n such. My personal hope is that he leaves his unpublished works to them. Like Tolkien to his son
Its so entertaining to see writers talking and telling stories, laughing, chatting, talking about their books and their writing. George R.R. Martin and Stephen King are clearly good friends and it's so unbelievably fun watching this.
george and steven after show: george: that was fun. steven: yeah. wanna get a drink? george: sure. shame. steven: why? george: your second names king. steven: so? (the rains of castamere plays) steven: uh oh! george: the lannisters send their regards.
Two of our greatest writers of this era, two icon. Stephen King is like the Albert Hitchcock of this era and George is like the Vincent Price of this era.
Two of my favorite authors of all time. King's "It" will forever remain one of my top five novels of all time and I love Martin's series. Though I haven't read all of the Ice and Fire series, I really love the show and plan on finishing the series once I get through the litany of books I am currently reading.
The fastest writer alive, and the slowest.
Martin is not neccessarily slow. He has so many characters and settings to deal with in WoW that it's become incredibly difficult to weave all of these threads into a satisfying story. ASOIAF is technically like 10 stories happening in the same world, at the same time and they influence each other. I can't even begin to fathom how stressful this must be
Luke Donlan Stephen isn’t the fastest writer. He says himself he envies some ppl that put out stories at double his pace
@@GodOfWar5528 He dug himself a massive hole. The first 3 books were very tight and great.. after that the trembling that led to nowhere started. I have no clue how he can possibly wrap this up in just 2 more books and GRRM doesn't know either. Maybe we do indeed get Winds this year, but I honestly don't expect him to finish the series.
@@devinspencer3114 no in fact he isn't at all!! He spent 30 years to finish the dark tower!!
@@yessir.7937 Since the big problem is converging book 4-5 into one sequel, book 7 should be easier when it comes to organization (the biggest problem here). I don't know if he has time to it though.
"I'll try one of these fucking George Martin books"
That's what every Martin fan says before they join the cult.
Pooping Buffalo after season 7 I decided to read the paperback books and just finished a storm of swords. I feel like I'm the envy of all my friends lmao
I never got the a ppeal to the show and it bugs thr hell out of me cause on paper it'd everything I love. But watching it was like watching band of brothers if you made it even longer longer and focused on random stuff for way to long.
I think thats what anyone says when they pick up a book that long 🙃
@@Spongebrain97 i dunno, i just listened to a "rewrite" of the season 8 show, it made me wish the show was redone 😭
I’ve never seen the show but I’m about to start the A Song of Ice and Fire soon and that’s exactly what I said. I read all the Lord of the Rings books, then I read ALL the Dune books and then thought, ‘hmmm I wonder how much more I can hurt my neck, ah I’ll read the fucking George R. R. Martin books’. I have to say, after reading the back of all the books I am SO EXCITED to read these. First I have to finish the Hellhole Triology. If you guys haven’t read the Dune series (I mean the WHOLE expanded series by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson) I REALLY suggest them. After A Song of Ice and Fire I’m gonna end up breaking my neck cause next I’ll read the expanded Ringworld series and The Expanse series.
Friendly reminder that Stephen King got so frustrated with the process of writing his first novel that he gave up and threw the incomplete manuscript in the bin. His wife fished it out, read it, and convinced him to finish it. He did, it sold and was titled Carrie. So - although he is kind of an insane writing robot now, even he has had moments of insecurity and frustration with his writing . So if you’re struggling - keep going !
Thank you!!
Carrie was not his first novel, just the one that popularised him.
@@Ineke-hj9ok Carrie is Stephen King's first published novel.
Carrie was the first one published, but the first one he wrote (at age 18) was The Long Walk
@@emosongsandreadalongs I didn't know that, thank you :)
It's so cute how Stephen is always promoting his son's books
Judge Roy Bean you do realize his son went by a different name and was successful on his own way before he announced that he’s Kings son right?
Leonard Parker its definitely stupidity
Every good father is proud of their kids and will promote them in life whenever feasible.
To be honest, I kinda prefer Joe Hill's writing to Stephen King's. Both are amazing though (despite some weaker books on King's track list - but with that kind of outpunt that's bound to happen).
@Maple lord I don’t know about him but no one has helped me and doesn’t look like anyone ever will.
George R. R. Martin to Stephen King: 'How the Fuck Do You Write So Fast?' 50:08
Thank you!
Thank you!
Thanks for that!
Thank you! Basically, it's discipline his answer, thing I lack much.
Someone once asked Isaac Asimov [say that three times fast]; if he had 24 hours left to live, what would he do. he said "Type faster".
Imagine George R R Martin's laugh meanwhile he's killing a beloved character...
Ralf Zaitsev
Spot on. I was reading the first book, a few pages in, and a little kid gets slaughtered.
Shit got real right there.
Every page turn I was afraid for my favorites.
If you think doing that kind of thing to your own character makes you laugh you've got a whole lot wrong about writing.
@@coffeemachtspass I remember a while ago when the TV series was just starting, someone photoshopped the image of Sean Bean sitting on the throne to make the title Don't Get Too Attached. Never has an alternate title been truer.
Lol
A man who despises death and laugh into his face? Great.
interesting the parallels at talking to their literary style: George barely talks, Stephen can't stop
The Enygma The Quiet Turtle and the Loud Rabbit.
pretty good parallel to their writing too. One writes far too quickly the other takes his time.
I mean yea but read the dark tower by sk
creature Stephen writes relatively slow compared to a lot of other writers
creature takes his time is a very generous way to put it
Two giants of literature. King for horror and Martin for fantasy. For a bookworm like me, this is simply awesome to see these two authors share the same stage.
Th Dark Tower series was fantasy albeit a poor story in the end
@@210SAi it wasn't a poor story at all, it had a questionable ending but otherwise it was a great story!!
I’d rather take no ending than a bad one. That’s why I’d choose George anyday
@@fatfrankthepeteacher4237 choose?
Sorry but that would be Tolkien and Lovecraft.
"You don’t ever have a day where you sit down there and it’s like constipation, and you write a sentence, and you hate the sentence? And you check your email and you wonder if you had any talent after all, and maybe you should have been a plumber? Don’t you ever have days like that?” >> George RR Martin is me trying to write my essays.
George is so relatable. Common writing advice is just to get words on paper and then heavily edit everything later, but that rarely works for me. Seems like George's brain works the same way.
My thoughts exactly!
Yeah, every one does...But successful writers just plow through anyway....
Yeah, I don't understand this. If you're a writer, you get discipled enough to realize the words don't matter
hyperchord Your comment makes no sense.
Look at Martin's suspender. There is a skull for each character he has killed.
Skull and crossbones actually.
That seems appropriate.
HansDelbruck53 Each skull is a Stark. Each bone is a character from anothet house.
Where are the other 200 skulls
The fact that he kills off all his characters is a common misconception. It's played up to dramatic levels in the television adaption. There's actually a lot of characters who have been killed on screen that are still alive in the books. As far as the starks go (present day era, anyways) there have been only two that died, ned and robb. Three if you count catelyn, and even that is debatable considering what your definition of "alive" is. The jury's still out on rickon & benjen lol
Derek Hammersley I haven't read the books, so...
These two should write a book together. It would be the most blood bathed horror filled novel ever.
King would write his half tomorrow afternoon, Martin would still be writing his by the time the film adaptation of the first half was on its fifth sequel.
@@Elvisbackpack this has been the best comment I’ve read all year 🤣
@@lordkanti8260 ikr, slammed 😂😂
I don’t think it’s a good idea every writer writes different in many way it’s like making a movie directed by james Gunn and Martin Scorsese
Don't keep distracting Martin he needs to stay focused lmao
It would have been funny if Stephen King had said "Hiya Georgie".
Nicholas Stalnaker And GRRM responded with “Valar Dorhærys”
Holy shit!
@Kieron Overbury I just let out an audible laugh in the office! Oh no! Hahahaha
Underrated comment hahaha
Hahaha 😂😂😂😂
George RR Martin talking about writers block is probably the most relatable shit ive ever heard
Fr man
@@rev6215 Its understandable but the weird part is he has been writing a ton of lore in the past 10 years. I get the impression that if it wasn't for the fact that he knows fans would be angry he would not only write but be close to finish if he had been writing his supposed 10-12 part Duncan Egg series that he wants to finish after the main series. Either something really bad happened after season 4 beyond them going past the book in several of the story lines. Or he has written himself into a corner where his version of events and how to get to the ending has become overly complicated by so many POVs. Its a great and unique way of telling essentially 10+ stories inside one story. But he stated that book 5 took so much extra time because of an event having too many POV characters in it and not knowing how to write it in a way that made sense for the overall narrative along with the individual stories. That problem in hindsight was obviously just going to grow because while obviously many more POV characters are going to have to die.
But even his mosts shocking twist deaths never feel like you were just 2/3rds of a way into that persons story and then for plot convenience they die. It will feel shocking in the moment but ultimately make sense. Nor does he drag his feet so you see it coming and pull a show Little finger who managed to live 6 more episodes than he realistically should have just to give the show some winterfell drama. So needs a satisfying and logical way of using another "wedding".
However he is still going to need to bring all the characters to Westoros for either a conflict with Cersei or Gryff. And either find a believable way of killing all the white walkers, or strike the same deal that their forfathers likely had which kept them staying in the north. If mans world either stopped doing their part, or the deal wasn't past properly on during their long slumber. The deal likely being giving them enough children for a set time to keep their species alive.
@@dcworld4349 I’d imagine his solution to the white walkers means abandoning Westeros entirely. That’s the only way to have a completely different narrative than the show. Finding a new land with new ppl and new magical beings.
@@BostonsF1nest Nah D&D messed up, but they didn't mess up so badly that they come up with their own completely original ending. The characters who are alive and dead, and how they got there by the end might be different. But three things are guaranteed, Dany will go mad, Jon will kill her and Bran will be King. I've suspected the reason the whites as they are known in the books, are coming because humanity broke their agreement with them of getting a certain portion of children sent to them because they can't repopulate on their own. But the humans doesn't know that they have broken anything since it was such a long time ago and people stopped believing they exsisted at all.
The big question will be what is Martin's plan of killing them since so far there is no Night King for them to just simply kill like a Star Wars base that destroys the rest. I have a suspicion it could possibly have something to do with Dany and Jon having a baby if Martin's plan is to have her go mad over something more understandable. Having their kid being used via the lord of light or something like that. But it's not like I think that is a guarantee, just the closest theory I have so far.
@@dcworld4349 Bran being king is the dumbest thing ever lol. I hate how that unfolded the most out of anything. Should be Jon. Jon being forced to be the king is a worse punishment for him than being sent back to the wall. He’s great at ruling but his humility won’t allow him to accept that he’s probably their best option.
He wrote 3 chapters in 6 months. Shit, this book will never come out
I hope he was just playing with us :(
Yeah
Sigurd Torvaldsson
it was one of those moments *begins laughing and slowly the laugh turns into crying as the true meaning of what he said settles in your mind*
Sigurd Torvaldsson What's the time stamp for that conversation??
Petition to reanimate Tolkien from the dead to have a televised chat with G.R.R.Martin
His grandson is stiill alive
well, you can watch a parody of this right here: czcams.com/video/XAAp_luluo0/video.html
GRRM loves Tolkien; I'm afraid that it wouldn't be reciprocal, however.
And then have Stephen King write a novel about how it all went horribly wrong. Tolkien comes back, but he's... different. Unhinged somehow. He mauls a few people, then blows his own head off with a shotgun. Then, the necromancer who reanimated Tolkien tries to take over the world with a zombie army
@@lnsullivan422 not anymore
“you saved my life man thank you” the opposite of what Martin usually hears
Dr: Sorry Mr. King, but you have cancer.
Stephen King: How long do I get to live?
Dr: 6 months.
Stephen King: Good, that's 120 more books I can publish right there.
Carl Mart Yep.
Jarl Adolf well, he doesn’t write fast, but is very determined to meet his writing quota and constantly writes about 1,800 words a day now-and he considers that slow since at his peak he wrote 3,000 a day
What minute is this?
Carl Mart
Dr: Good news, Mr Martin! You'll live for another twenty years at least?
George: WHAT?! How am I meant to write one book in that timeframe?!
wow, so original...
George R R Martin is such an immensely lovable man.
I love how his laugh sounds like the stereotypical nerd laugh, it's hilarious
He IS a nerd, I love that. :D
They both are.
True that, they're both lovely.
hes like santa claus
Everyone's talking about George's laugh, meanwhile I'm just appreciating how talented Stephen King is at talking and telling stories
Trust me, most people are thinking that. It's not that unique of a train of thought
That’s the Mainer in him.
George asking him if he ever has writer's block. King proceeds to tell a mini novel in details about JK Rowling's whole look at an event.
"There are books and there are books."
No truer words have ever been said Mr. King.
Too much greatness in one room. It's a wonder the room didn't implode.
Yeah. George needs to lose some weight.
Sides Status: Compromised
+Re Gsah amazing how brave anonymous people are.
DevinAK49 What happened?
+Don'tLetYourMemesBeSteelDreams I found a 12 year old.
Both are worth an estimated $500 Million and still dress modestly.
+respect
They just don't care. People love them anyway.
Yes !
Real money don't dress to show their wealth.
Greatest writers are modest.
is it more or what?
Two giants interviewing each other. The ULTIMATE interview form
Its more like steven king taking the show and martin trying to squeeze in a word in the small pauses
Let's all rejoice that King is alive he's lived both through heavy drug abuse and been involved in a car accident and he is still active and writing which is a miracle. He is definately one of the most prolific writers of the twentieth century and a father and reinventor of horror novels.
Hey, if he wasn't insanely high, the book and movie IT wouldn't be here
Nobody will ever outpace L Ron Hubbard though, wrote so many books he got bored and decided to write a real life doomsday cult into existence.
how do you watch an author interview for an hour and not know how to spell “definitely”
@@CRiSiS_iNFiNiTE not everyone is an english major dude. Also i presume you have heard of so called learning disorders
@@jessegreywolf i’m a high school drop out bud lmao
Stephen King vs. George RR Martin. A clash of kings.
George RR Martin = Quality
Stephen King = Quantity
Well there are no right or wrong answers when it comes to taste. I read a few of Stephen King's books when I was a teenager and didn't care for them too much. They were simple reads and nothing too special about them. His writing is very average in my opinion. I rather read RL Stine's "Goosebumps" series than anything written by Stephen King. His writing could have changed since I was a teenager, I will never know. George RR Martin on the hand is a master writer like Tolkien. His stories are engaging, makes you feel like his characters are your friends and when they die you actually feel bad because of all the time you've invested reading them and the journeys they took you on. Stephen King's writing feels rushed because he writes books very fast instead of taking his time like George RR Martin and it shows. But hey, it's all opinion anyways and I like Alexandre Dumas's work over any book written that I have read so far. If you don't know who he is, he has written books like "Count of Monte Cristo", "The Man in the Iron Mask", and "The Three Musketeers." Check em' out if you get the chance. Very good books.
sebosforsebosfor that's cool. Guess we'll agree to disagree. Good day.
I'd say Tephen King is the better writer. However, Grr Martin is better at world building. He is practically a master at that.
MickyMicky Mike To think Stephen King is average is a matter of taste (although I have to strongly disagree). But to say George R R Martin is ANYTHING close to Tolkien is a huge blasphemy. Tolkien is like one of the greatest writers on earth. George R R Martin wrote a pretty cool story and that's all.
Man, King must be the best conversation ever. What a nice dude who knows a lot of stuff.
Exactly. He has such a beer cooler personality
He was an alcoholic and did cocaine.
whatthecello42 Good for him.
All writters drink
cara Ren and Stimpy era muito bom!!!!
King is a living legend. No other author can take me to the places he can, his ability to dive into the psychology of a character is nothing short of breathtaking.
I loved The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon. Maybe not his most famous work but it was a quick read and gripped you right in.
@@amberkry955 I have not heard of that 1 but I am a King fan. Thank you for posting. I will check that out! Have you read Gwen's button Box? It is fantastic.
@@amberkry955 super underrated book
@@amberkry955 one of my favorites. Another great short story of his is Riding The Bullet.
He even made me feel bad for Henry fucking Bowers at one point
George's description of a bad day's writing echoes precisely, almost to the letter, one of my own many such days. Gives me hope that if he experiences it like that, then it's okay that I do too.
Hey man, whatever you're writing- if you still are (I hope so)- Keep it up. You'll get it done.
@@amelancholybear1534 Thanks Michael. I'm still plugging away at it on the down low. Writing a video game I'm making with some friends. Means the book I'm writing gets less attention. But hey, still a lot of fun.
@@ThePrecipice66 I took stephen king comment to heart. I obviously are not talented or have enough time to write 6 pages a day, I have to work and stuff. But I do try to squeez one or two pages if possible everyday at night. And when he said "there are books and there are books" I came to understand it as, there are some books that are much harder to write than others, but I still try to get to six pages of work a day. So what I end up doing is having a few writing projects at the same time, let say two that are hard and one that is easier, and so when I am stuck in a hard philosophical issue of my book, maybe I want the story to be very tight and precise, that is when I jump into my easier project that I don't take too seriously and that I will likely not even try to publish or the one I already settled on the story, so that at the end of the day I do kind of get those one or two pages. At the end the practice, knowledge and discipline from continuing writing the easier books, helps me tremendously with the harder more complex books.
That's the kind of discipline you need to succeed I think so well done to you mate. Pretty much every writer interview I've seen emphasises the need to keep writing regularly like that.
@@ThePrecipice66Yeah, writing is not different from any other art, the more you practice the better you get at it. I've seen a lot of first writers obsessed with writing a master piece, get published and earn money. And they end up facing a lot of writing problems that they haven't faced before and get stuck. Of course there exist a lot of people that do just write their first book and it is an instant masterpiece, but they are often english majors (or majors in their respective language), journalists, columnists or the like. People that have written a lot before.
I've heard some advise from youtubers to new writers saying something like, if you want to write a book, then first you should start writing lore and back story, character profiles and the like.
And I honestly think it is terrible advise for a first project, you might not even enjoy writing, that is an easy way of prolonging writing for weeks or indefinitely. If someone wants to start writing and have some rough story in mind, I think they should just start writing in whatever way you think is best, develop some discipline and as you write you will start developing what methods work best for your style of writing.
No matter how good they think their first idea is, the ideas will just get better as they get use to story telling.
Martin's chuckles are wonderful
Agreed! George R R Martin's laughs like hundred year old aged-wine, a very textured laugh like the sort of laugh your grandpah might give on a winter's night while sitting by a warm fireplace
scyllaandcharybdis
That's a surprisingly good analogy.
Thank you sir!
His laugh is hilarious and weird... I don't know why it's so weird. But it's wonderful.
Uh uh uh uh uh uh
Two amazing living legends together! How I wish you two were immortal!
They are.
They're writers.
Nailed it!
You, Adam. You are my fucking brother. Writers represent.
Don'tLetYourMemesBeSteelDreams
Goddamn right! We live by the 10 commandments of writing:
1. Sit your ass in the chair!
2. Thou shalt not bore the reader.
3. Remember to keep the holy your writing time.
4. Honor the lives of your characters.
5. Thou shalt NOT be obscure.
6. Thou shalt show and not tell.
7. Thou shalt steal!
8. Thou shalt rewrite and rewrite again. And again.
9. Thou shalt confront the human condition.
10. Be sure that every death in a story means something!!
What do you mean by "keep the holy your writing time?"
"Can I tell another story?" - Stephen King. Yes Stephen, apparently there is no end in sight!
Two great serial killers of the fiction world walk into a pub..
The bartender says to them, "Sorry, I didn't mean to leave you hanging."
@@TheSunUpInTheSky this was worth the wait😁
@@sahajshetty1844 Thanks :)
George R.R. Martin is actually younger than Stephen King by 1 year. George is 68, Stephen is 69.
CiarantheDirector I did not know that. Thank you.
We should petition for him to go vegan and drink kale shakes. Maybe not the kale shakes.
69 lol
@@mariomosby6779 ...somebody had to
Nice
this should be called "A Class with King" by George R.R. Martin
I see what you did there XD
rhodus333 very sly
Okay, I admit, that was kind of clever.
MasterPoppers yes, it was yes, it was
2 World Builders
2 gods of the pantheon of English literature.
@@kenthefele113 That would be Dickens and Shakespeare.
A worldbuilder and a multiverse building storyteller
Anyone: “Stephen, what do you think about climate change?”.......
Stephen: “well the thing is, I wrote a series of books called......😛
@vestiphobe The fuck you on conservatives are the ones that abolished slavery.
His story about the dark tower remindes my off climate change, becouse of the way this World is designt
@Rob T you seem painfully ignorant. See how your unfettered capitalism has gotten you. The people are bled bry and the corporations keep getting tax cuts, you fkin imbecile
This dude really went on a rant because someone doesn’t like is bumbling tangerine idiot of a “leader”.
😄
I'm watching in 2017 & these 2 authors I'm learning are legendary...I have been almost illiterate for 1/2 my adult life but put myself back into school with encouragement from new friends and family in laws. It's been almost 4 years since my first English class and now I feel proud to say I'm reading my first Stephen King book, The Shining
Wow I came back in 2020 read these comments and how many likes thank you so much for the encouragement and just an FYI The shining scared the s*** out of me
Congratulations!
Bravo! It is never, ever too late to learn! ^_^
Good!
That's awesome, how did you like the book?
That's so awesome! Hope you'll enjoy many amazing books in your life!
They both look like turtles and I love it.
Lol. This is one of the best comments.
King would appreciate this
The grandfather turtle and the great grandfather turtle sit down for a drink of pond water and a good chat.
Seems like all my favorite authors look like turtles
And they love a child like me!
This is my kind of mukbang. It's like listening to my grandparents on a porch telling stories, but a little more deranged than I remember.
George looks like an epic Gothic Santa clause
I can't unsee it now.
This is basically George R. R. Martin interviewing Stephen King.
Cause it it is? It's was King's event
+Christian Saraiva oh i see. I thought it was one of those events where both of them share their thoughts about random subjects.
Probably because George didn't want to answer questions about when his next book is coming out
that's what it was supposed to be
This video was oddly inspirational. It really makes me want to grind harder on my writing.
Do it! Don't wait!! Who cares if it sucks? If you love it, do it anyway!!!
Go on, man! Go right now!
King has given the same advice his entire career, if you want to write, then WRITE. Don't worry about quality, don't worry about content, just put words to paper (or screen...), get used to doing it. King wrote until his fingers bled back in the 70's before anyone knew his name, and was rejected over and over again until he got better and got bites. J.K. Rowling got turned down by dozens of publishers because nobody gave a crap about her "Harry Potter" book. Honestly the grind is what will bring success, not some idea of raw talent or luck, but plugging away at it til you become a master. I'd not like to guess at how many pages King wrote before anyone cared to pay him a dime for them.
+Haplo17 thanks for this. Even all the more reason to really nail down on this. I actually just submitted my first story to Clarkesworld about a few hours ago. I had already had written it from before, but I deemed it worthy enough.
Good luck, I couldn't mean it more. The world needs more stories and people with the spine to put their work out there and face rejection after rejection until they make it. If not...well, almost nobody succeeds right out the gate :)
I believe the entire universe was created just for this moment where George RR Martin, the world's slowest writer, would ask Stephen King how the f* he writes so many books so fast
I never thought I'd see George R. R. King and Stephen Martin in the same interview! My two favorite writers sitting right in front of each other
Stephen Martin?
@@MikeRoberts1964 George R. R. King. Keep up.
Steve Martin had some work done
@@chaelmavik ahahhahahaa this comment made me laugh so hard my legs went warm
I was kind of expecting a rap battle.
Andreas Holmgren i didnt know it at first... But turns out me too...
Andreas Holmgren Hell, they both won their respective rap battles (IMO), so they might as well face off against each other.
@@buckleygeneration this sickly goblin won't be bothering me, I'm on a clobbering spree
I am always amazed at how little folks know about King and how many types of books he's written. He is not a horror writer...he's a writer who writes horror along with about six or seven other genres.
So, so true. He is one of my favourite authors, but I actually don't consider him my favourite HORROR author - that title goes to Clive Barker. But nobody that I've read writes about human nature the way King does, and that's what makes his work so good to me. He doesn't write horror; he writes stories about people facing horrors - sometimes these are supernatural, often they are simply everyday human horrors.
Dolores Claiborne is one of my all time favourites,no monsters,except the human kind.
Blaze was a brilliant book
Gotta love that dark tower series
Come on The Body is the best book come on guys (stand by me)
Audio engineer did good job here.
I have never heard Marin till this moment.
Dude giggles like a psychopath.
I finally understand the man behind those kills.
P.S. Thankee Sai.
Skip to 50:08 for the actual moment mentioned when George asks Stephen how he writes so fast.
You sir are the real MVP
Take that +1. My bad. Take that like :). P/S: sorry, thumbs up
Bless
Lock himself in a room for 18 hours a day? He or someone should do that for George...
thiefofa1073
I don't know why so many of the comments here want to suggest that one guy is great writer and one is a hack. They both write popular books with very different styles. King is certainly far more prolific. Here's prolific compared to nearly any writer; he started writing during cocaine binges and even though he's off the coke, writing is still something that's an "addiction
for him. Everybody knew his supposed retirement wouldn't last. He'll be writing till he's literally not able to anymore.
Martin is a different writer. He enjoys world building more then propelling a primary narrative. People accuse him of being lazy, but the truth is he was writing at a decent pace before he became internationally famous. I think it's clear the sudden superstardom so late in life has disrupted his writing routine and he's struggling with it.
They're both good writers who write different things in different ways. They're clearly both fans of each other's work.
"To Kill a Mockingbird" was one of the greatest novels ever written, and other then a few small pieces in college, Harper Lee never wrote anything else. No one says that makes her a bad writer.
Shakespeare wrote a fuckload of plays. No one says his prolific output (including a few clunkers) makes him a bad writer.
If you want to see two writers talking shit to each other, look for George Martin vs JRR Tolkien or Stephen King vs Edgar Allen Poe
Great comment and comparison at the end :)
King's no hack. He's amazeballs
Martin would just spend the time praising Tolkien for middle earth, one of his biggest influences. But i do get your point. You didn't name a bad writer there, certainly no hacks, regardless of what some nobodies on here tried say.
It's like crosswords. One does the daily, one does the weekly cryptic. Many people are like this.
@David Smith he's worked for 40 years to be an overnight success. I love that👌
I know this will sound weird to some people and to some they will sadly know where I'm coming from. Stephen King saved my sanity as a teenager. When i read his books i could leave my horrible home life for a few chapters at a time. When people talk about his drug/alcohol abuse. He's human. Shit happens. Mr. King is the one who told us He had a problem. He's overcome His addictions and is a better man for it. Be like STEPHEN KING!
As an aspiring author I could listen to these two men talk for hours. They’re such an inspiration to me and the fact they had this discussion in the first place is amazing!!!
As an aspiring author, listening to them for hours would be career suicide....What you NEED to do for hours is WRITE....
@@MikeRoberts1964 I’m aware of that I just love listening to other authors. I literally write everyday & am writing a series right now & I’ve been able to further it & improve it because of talks by George R R Martin. So I’m not only watching but taking notes & so much more.
You take things too literal.
Has that helped your writing?@@MikeRoberts1964
50:23 where Martin asks how the fuck he writes so fast.
What King basically said is that he is a disciplined man. 6 pages a day is his goal. Different writers use different methods, but King is a disciplined man, and we can appreciate that.
Joe SharkAZ Agreed. One look at Martin and discipline isn't what comes to mind. No offense love him but....
I honestly don't think King is even the fastest when it comes to consistency. Sanderson says he writes 8 hours every day almost. He's published almost 20 books in 10 years and they are by no means small books
All GRRM has to do is write 3-5 pages a day for a year (about 1500 pages total) and he will prob. finish both books 6 and 7 before the show ends and spoils the main book arc. If he doesnt, his legacy will be tarnished because of his own inability to focus. 1 year of focus and seclusion GRRM.... That's all you need to do, and then you can retire and enjoy your life as one of the best (and richest) fantasy writers ever.
+Everette Haire the show won't spoil the books. they are making up their own endings
Martin : do you ever sit down and have nothing to write
King: nope
Stephen King:
“We want the next book! We want the next book!”
George: *nervous ptsd laughter*
"we just bought a big box of heads, it could've been anybody's head" but without context
I live in the same area as Stephen. He is such a humble normal dude who shops for his groceries just like everyone else.
Ah same
Damn this really puts writing as a whole in perspective for me. I'm currently writing a novel and damn this shit is intense! I can understand when king says that you get this package of creativity in your heart and as you write it just expands and bam 7 hours have went by and in one day I've written 2 chapters. I don't even know if I'm good at this shit but damn if it ain't fun to do. Wish me some luck guys and gals, have a great day!
Good Luck.
Some luck to you sir!
You done with it yet? Let us know!
Dr. Strange Good luck, man.
Iv attempted writing but it is hard. I find myself getting bored if I'm on the same subject and try to do something else at the same time but end up scrapping the idea
Gotta love two legends of literature showing each other respect, a sight to see
I feel king was slightly disrespectful
Not.letting George finish speaking
But what an amazing event to witness
This felt like 10 minutes. . . Time flies by when you're enjoying something.
I feel very privileged for being alive at the same time as 2 of the most arguably best writers to date. also shout out to harry potter, narnia and obviously hobbit/lord of the rings.
There's a whole slew of great writers out there...
TheBruceMaharaj Indeed. This is the Gilded Age of Writers we’re living in.
no one will care about got in 50 years.
ImprobableHumanity I’m sure someone said the same of Poe and Edgar Rice Burroughs.
@@improbablehumanity9719 ASOIAF is kind of a modern classic, it will get just better as time goes.
we need a best-seller author whose last name is luther and then we need to gather the three of them: Martin, Luther, King XD
Cielo Azzurro My pen name is now James Luther.
And if the three of them had a child, they’d be named Martin Luther King Jr.
Hahahahahaha
@@BackboneAgZ was looking for a Jr comment, found it, not disappointed!
On it.
The first Stephen King story I ever read was Graveyard Shift and as read it, I could see the rats and hear them and it was so real I had to put the book down and that was when I knew Steohen King is one of the greatest writers ever.
@David Smith really any stephen king short story is scary. Ironically it's the same thing as GRRM, it's horrifying because you don't know where the story is going. I still have memories about reading King stories for the first time
The elder gods meeting up for the first time in ten thousand years
The line Stephen made about his father leaving for some rare brand of cigarettes made me crack up
That was great.
I just adore these two legendary dorks. Haha!
They’re not dorks
Such a pleasure to listen to smart, funny, respectful and down to earth people talk
Thank you, person who uploaded this. This is the stuff CZcams is for.
oh god, imagine these two writing a book series together, I will never leave my personal library again after getting that series
Bandit's Gaming Channel It would have two endings: One that is completely unsatisfactory and another that never gets finished.
I love that you can obviously tell how much respect these two authors hold for one another
I love the respect that they have for each other, but you could see George really admires Stephen.
I actually decided to write my own book. The temporary name of the book is "The Flame". It will be a good thriller mystery and horror book. WISH ME LUCK.
@Dyke Elephant thanks
You got this.
Good luck 🙂
How’s it coming along?
@@sohamdeshpande6595 it’s good. I have a new working title: Supernatural: The Knight’s Move
It's great to see two great authors in one room talking to each another.
I'm Clapping My Hand With The Crowd Tho, Big #Respect For Both Of Them
Why the hashtag? Seriously, why the fucking hashtag?
Grande Barca What's The Problem?
+Rabezi014 "Clapping my hand".... Jamie Lannister?
Pyraclipse Ha Ha
You can't "clap your hand" if anything you'd just be slapping something, and that's rude
The two greatest authors alive having one normal conversation on their career.
Geroge yes but Stephen?😂
But Brandon Sanderson and John Grisham were not there...
@@divya6911Stephen king has written some of the best stories in the last 40 years. Some of them have become amazing movies. Stand by me, It, Shawshank redemption, the green mile
@@divya6911 Yes, King too.
I could listen to these two talk all day. Nearly a hour long, but it didn't feel like it.
I read everything Stephen King wrote until about the time I finished college in the mid-80's. No particular reason... I was just interested in reading other things. But listening to this interview has inspired me to pick him back up again. No way will I attempt to read all his books since then, but a few at least.
I feel the same way about The Bible.
SK early to middle years saw his best writing. Duma Key wasn't too bad though.
His Mercedes-Bill Hodges trilogy is pretty good, not very much supernatural in it but very suspenseful. I liked it and Duma Key, Bag of Bones, Misery, and the Kennedy story 11/22/63. Did not like The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon, or Dreamcatcher.
originalhgc Definitely check out Under the Dome. That was the book that pulled me back into King. 11/22/63 is another great one from recent years.
11/22/63 was quality.
I really feel like Martin misunderstood Tolkien's view of evil. One of the foundational concepts of the trilogy is the overcoming of the evil within every individual heart, especially pride and the evil that it leads to. The real threat to the races of Middle Earth was their pride that stopped them from working together. There was never any doubt that, together, they would be able to win.
yeah, and the ring was representative of the inner corruption that comes with seeking power/materialistic desires.
You should tell him this on his Not A Blog. I'm curious to know what his response would be.
I'm sure George recognizes this, I think he was referring more to Sauron and how... well, cartoonish that villain is
Steven Leitch It sure didn't seem like it. His entire point was to critique Tolkien's work as a whole.
exactly. George is talking about he main conflict of the story. Sauron is evil and he created a ring that needed to be destroyed. That's the most basic gist of the story
This interview is magic. Both author mean a lot to me for different reasons. George gave me a 5 book escape and Mr King gave me nightmares and unforgettable characters.
Rats are probably watching this and saying "Wow that's so cool they wrote about us in their early work i'm gonna have to check that out!!"
Meanwhile, an avenger rat will look at george martin and the rat will tell george, " you dirty rat! You killed my brother!!! "
It's weird to hear George curse, he seems like such a sweet guy. I like it though.
NamelessDreadx37x just cause someone swears doesn't mean they're bad people.
But he means someone so sweet that even a curse word would be impossible to hear from it
Sup Cassidy
NamelessDreadx37x have you read or watched game of thrones?
Lord Petyr Baelish right his mind and imagination is fucked.
George RR Martin, I love you. But your laugh is half an octave from becoming a witch's cackle.
He's like an adorable psychopathic Santa Claus.
He laughs just like Harley Morenstein
Ohmygosh that description is beautiful.
I just couldn't stop laughing out loud lol
crazy...why not
George was an uncool, nerdy kid in highschool?? Wow....quite the opposite of the suave, badass persona they have now.
Money!
George is a genius
What a great interview. One of the best moments for me is at the end when George asks Stephen how he writes so many books, the way George is _literally_ sitting on the edge of his seat, eagerly awaiting his answer, is truly delightful; it really speaks to how much he respects and values King's ideas/perspective. Awesome stuff.
The two legends met, I can die peacefully now
A lot of people expect Martin to speed up because of two people, Frank Herbert of Dune & Robert Jordan of Wheel of Time. Both writers passed away before they can even finish their respective series. Even bigger concern is seeing these two books completed by whom fans consider as "hack" writers; Dune by Herbert's son, Brian & co-writer Kevin J. Anderson; and Wheel of Time by Brandon Sanderson. The ghosts of Herbert & Jordan shouldn't be hung over Martin by worried fans, and his work shouldn't suffer for that.
Let Martin write at whatever pace he's able of.
GRRM has specifically stipulated in his book contract (and/or maybe his actual will, I think?) that if he were to die before ASOIAF is finished, no one is allowed to touch it.
Hack writer? Sanderson? Have you read any of his books besides the Wheel of Time volumes he completed? His mistborn books are great. The beginning of his wheel of time esque Stormlight Trilogy series is amazing. He just writes differently than Jordan.
+Michael *whom some fans consider as "hack" writers*
I think that maybe (I hope) there might be books released aftewards aswell, and that George want's it as a surprise. I know in some interviews he has said he has a frequent dialog with a certain couple who know the story "better than he does" - remember every line of dialog n such. My personal hope is that he leaves his unpublished works to them. Like Tolkien to his son
P. K. Dick never wrote the promised second part of Man in the High Castle as well.
Its so entertaining to see writers talking and telling stories, laughing, chatting, talking about their books and their writing. George R.R. Martin and Stephen King are clearly good friends and it's so unbelievably fun watching this.
My first love (King) and the love of my life (Martin). Swooooon.
Stephen King's SHOES THO 🔥🔥
"Well I'll try one of these fucking George Martin books! See if there any good." Lmao
I cant believe it, he George actually asked it. How do you write so quickly! 🤣🤣🤣🤣The elephant in the room.
Can we just put all these great writers on a cruise ship together and see what happens? I just want them to hang out...
But what if it turns into a poop cruise?!
What if they hit an iceberg?
But what if George decides to kill off the crew?
Sir Anthony
That would be amazing HAHAHHAA
Get them all to come up with the story for an awesome book and have each one write a chapter.
george and steven after show:
george: that was fun.
steven: yeah. wanna get a drink?
george: sure. shame.
steven: why?
george: your second names king.
steven: so?
(the rains of castamere plays)
steven: uh oh!
george: the lannisters send their regards.
thank you for this, fella
I can only think of that gif of a cop loading a shotgun
Let's out a classic GRRM chuckle whilst sinking the blade into his neck
Hahahaha very good
King's got Roland and Randall Flagg on his corner, he'll be alright.
Two of our greatest writers of this era, two icon. Stephen King is like the Albert Hitchcock of this era and George is like the Vincent Price of this era.
Well ...Sanderson is better than Martin
@@n0zenzur sanderson ain't even better than Jordan
@@penaldotapinaldo1713 smiling in Tolkien.
Alfred Hitchcock?
Can i just say that George has great taste in suspenders? Love the little skulls and crossbones on them!
George R. R. Martin's laugh needs to be a ringtone!!!
TheWanderingProphet reminds me of Chris Griffin’s laugh from Family Guy
26:10 His story shows how important a great teacher is.
George RR Martin seems like the most humble and nice person
This feels more like George interviewing Stephing.
Two of my favorite authors of all time. King's "It" will forever remain one of my top five novels of all time and I love Martin's series. Though I haven't read all of the Ice and Fire series, I really love the show and plan on finishing the series once I get through the litany of books I am currently reading.
Where would you rank J. R. R. Talkien
Cesar A Vargas Tolkien****
Josh D :)
@Josh D ikr!! Its awesome :)