All That Glitters Is Old | Super Mario 3D All-Stars Review
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- čas přidán 5. 06. 2024
- Super Mario 3D All-Stars brings Super Mario 64, Super Mario Sunshine and Super Mario Galaxy together into one package. So how do these classic games play on Switch?
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I don't know who said it, but someone described this collection as "a collection of great games, not a great collection of games", and that's honestly pretty accurate.
Dang dude that’s deep..😔✊
Nah man that’s stupid AF.
agree
@@mysticalknightofjack no
True
Here before Arlo deletes his review on March 31, 2021
Because T R A D I T I O N
This is the way
Oof
Underrared response
I broke my god damn toe today and I’m still laughing my ass off over this comment
Arlo's format for reviews is basically: "I love this game, here's why it sucks"
Good review.
Lololololololo
That’s what you want out of a review!
He's so -ve nearly all the time and veils it with the claims of being 'objective' and the usual 'cash grab' ploys.
Oldskool mindset. Nowadays, games & ratings are very subjective. A sweeping review score matters not anymore: the sales do because whereas 10 years ago a game selling say '3 million' would be considered 'Good' - nowadays even 'Nicher' games sell well over 10 million. Twilight Princess HD. Also reflects the massively increased population in general.
@@netweed09In what reality is 10 million units “niche?” Because it’s certainly not this one.
I'm actually preferring this "ditching scoring" thing.
9/10.
Yeah, how would you even score a collection like this?
Yeah, imagine scoring things.
I feel like you should've given him at least a 95/100.
Only 9/10? This is obviously a 96
@@flameburst9734 I think it's a broken marriage out of 10
When Galaxy came out, my daughter was six. She was my copilot. Best memories of my life and I'll always love this game because of that.
So . . . do you not have one now?
Awww, that’s so sweet.
@@flameburst9734 R.I.P
@@flameburst9734 I guess I phrased it wrong. She's 19 now and doesn't play with me anymore. She's still awesome, though!
It's crazy how the kids who grew up with Mario Galaxy are now young adult going to college now I feel like im 100 years old.
Arlo’s catchphrase at this point is just “but that’s a topic I wanna cover in another video”
He should do merch out of it
@S C shut up
and yet almost every time it gets me excited because i love hearing this funny but insightful blue guy ramble on about games !
@@aymanaboufarise4346 stop.
Goes for CGP Grey as well
The fact that Galaxy 2 was left out just blows my mind. Why.
Maby there doing it to another 3d all stars game hopefully luigis mansion is added
this game is shit
I really want Galaxy 2...
It never defined the wii generation of mario. That honor goes to galaxy 1.
So when March 31st rolls round they can charge 20 a piece for the games individually when they pull this collection. That’s when galaxy 2 will come out. For a nominal fee of course.
All I want is a 'Paper Mario All Stars' collection.
seeing how Nintendo treated Mario in this collection, i don't think that's a good idea
"Paper Mario Laminated collection"
@@Shady_InktailFeaturing Sticker Star, Color Splash, and Origami King, of course. Because Nintendo probably doesn’t want players knowing how good the old ones are.
We definitely need this
I'd even take 1000 year door remake. Since paper Mario is no longer paper Mario, would be nice to have an RPG PM on switch.
you saying all that about sunshine hurts... but it's true. :(
Didnt expect you here! Keep up the good work Bowblax
Yep and I knew to suck it up, but 64 people done
False*
Also, all those likes are coming from the former part of your comment. Not the latter.
At this point, I’m just happy I finally beat it. 17 years later.
Get gud
Sunshine actually was rushed to sell Gamecubes when it didn’t sell as much as Nintendo wanted. I love the hell out of Sunshine, but I wish it was given the time to be finished.
Quite a few games on the GC suffered from that
@@EhCanadianBiker The hell Sakurai went through to finish Smash Melee. Oof! Sakurai was taken to ER at least once during the development.
Peace from Saudi Arabia.
@@TheFreeeemind Well that's a first
@@EhCanadianBiker Like Wind Waker also
@@ominousvirus5278 Well wind waker is a masterpiece and wasn't rushed
New drinking game. Every time Arlo says “I’d like to leave this subject for another video” take a shot.
I woke up in a washing machine at the laundromat. Would recommend.
*”_**___________** has died due to Alcohol Poisoning”*
I woke up in Skyrim’s Temple of Dibella. The priestess is yelling at me and I don’t know how I got here.
"hic" wahsch ghone on guysh...
everything is black...
In Sunshine I feel 90% of the shines are quite easy to get, while the other 10% makes me want to scream out of frustration.
More liked 50% that are easy and other 50% more frustration.
Only shooting stars break the mold
YES
It’s a cool place, and they say it gets colder
@@Godoflightning5 Aw yeah
Kim by shooting stars do you mean your nuclear weapons?
@@Godoflightning5 you’e bundled up now wait till you get older
I still prefer Delfino Plaza to Peach's castle, it has so much life to it.
I actually never really liked delfino plaza, it just felt like a basic grid shaped town with a couple interesting POI's and thats it.
Holy shit Mr L!!!
Observatory tho
Speaking purely from nostalgia: The Comet Observatory.
@@professordreadwin7959 Yett to see anyone seriously vouch for that!
Galaxy with an HD facelift honestly looks like it could’ve come out this gen.
That speaks highly of Mario Galaxy's graphics, and low of Switch games' graphics.
@@annarenfold438 The switch isn't that powerful, but I don't see how you think Galaxy looking great means switch games look bad? Nintendo games have incredible timeless art styles. A game like odyessy or BOTW will still look great in 10 years, just like galaxy. They're incredible art styles that age wonderfully.
Galaxy itself wasn't tweaked at all, the textures are still the same resolution and everything, the display it outputs is just 1080p now. If you want to go crazy, emulate it on your PC at 4K, it just changes the display the game renders in.
Looks better than the Pokemon games lol
Nintendo: "We are finally gonna let you play all these great old games (with little to no enhancements) for the low low price of $60 USD!"
Me: Laughs in Dolphin and P64
Galaxy is a fucking pain to play it on a emulator and you're not going to tell me otherwise
@@ZlayfersShitpostBot Nowadays it doesn't feel like it's a pain. I've even got a ready to use Sensor Bar specifically for WiiMotes on my emulator.
@@raymanfreak7739 A sensor bar, and a super difficult controller setup and a pc that can actually run a Wii emulator without framerate issues is such an overkill, at that point just swing for an used Wii or buy the game on Switch
@@ZlayfersShitpostBot The controller setup isn't actually that complicated depending on if you are using the proper sensor bar (I use DolphinBar), since there are modes you can use and an instruction manual to come with it to teach you how it works. As for the frame rate issue, I can't argue with that there. You'd need a pretty decent computer that isn't a potato and that is annoying on its own depending on your financial budget for finding gaming computers and what you can even grab. All in all, that's a yes and no type of thing.
Yeah I just played galaxy 2 on dolphin with an Xbox controller and I was eventually able to make it work even tho it wack as hell. I only couldn’t do the ball levels, but i don’t really miss those anyway lol
The fact we'll never get a Sunshine remake with proper fixes hurts me.
Play Mario Sunburn rom hack
Yeah. I really wanted an Sunshine remake to improved alot of things & update graphics. Same with 64. I've heard about Sunburn rom hack. So I'll give it an try.
Aside from the first Allstars and Mario 64 DS are there even mario game remakes?
@@brotbrotsen1100 Not really. :(
@@brotbrotsen1100 3D World is coming to switch, Mario Bros. U Deluxe, switch online NES and SNES games, and Super Mario Advance 1-4
I’m ready to hear another “in defense of super Mario sunshine” video lol
If it wasn’t a Mario game, people would praise it to high heaven.
Best game of the three, despite some emulation bugs in all stars!
Mario Sunshine was my first 3d Mario, and as such I still have a ton of nostalgia for it, but as I have gotten older I have begun to understand people's problems with the game.
Oh! Well he isn’t I guess lol. I agree though
naah he's basically saying it's the worst this time around..
I'm playing it right now and I love everything about it. It feels so nice. Everything I have done so far has been so much more fun than in 64.
The Crash Remakes are basically the gold standard for Remakes in my mind.
These aren't remakes, they're re-releases. To be upset over a re-release for "only" being a port is no less ridiculous than being annoyed because a re-release of Psycho (1960) wasn't actually Psycho (1998); artistry shouldn't be discarded for the sake of modernisation.
@@HOTD108_???
I know this didn't get a remastered graphics and i like crash but crash looks like those unreal engine shit games people make using only things from stock spyro is the remake masterpiece tho that and re2 and re3
@@hound6171 Crash Bandicoot N.Sane Trilogy looks and plays great, and now they’ve got a completely new game which also looks and plays great. I don’t understand what you’re talking about, I think Crash & Mario are just as good as each other.
@@hound6171 but that’s my opinion
I love Arlo going off about the nostalgia of the game as Mario catapults himself off a snowy ledge holding a literal child
“And if you’ve managed to get to the poison river by now.. I’m so so sorry.”
That’s how I felt when I encouraged uberhaxornova to do that level for the first time ever on stream... lol
Is that in sunshine?
@@MattStarzing It's either that or Blighttown.
Dang, that's a username I haven't heard/seen in a long time
@@I_was_a_Bullfrog he usually goes by James now but I figured ppl wouldn’t know who I’m talking about. He’s done pretty well for himself on twitch.
It’s both annoying to play and takes forever to get to because of Yoshi’s stupid hydrophobia.
Arlo: "Mario 64 is sloggy"
Speedrunners: "Allow us to introduce ourselves"
yeah i find it funny because in my experience SM64 controls better than sunshine and galaxy but I understand why most people wouldn't agree
@@jacobturner14 It depends. Mario Sunshine feels more tight but Mario 64, if you get the hang of the controls they're really good
@@TheOmniBlade he's not talking about the Blj though
Hi!
Speedrunners are the only reason Mario 64 is alive today, and how does Nintendo repay that? By removing the most popular thing that speedrunners used.
That’s some clever wordplay in the title you gotta admit
"Hand over the arlos cereal"
All that glitters is not gold
Only shooting starbits break the mold
@Xploshi
I like your icon. She kinda looks like Alphys from UnderTale. Did you draw it?
ngl I thought the title was a spongebob referrence
lol “controller throwingly hard” there should be a game difficulty setting like that.
XD
So true best line
I’ve seen a game with a difficulty called “citadel of finger breaking” or something like that. Can’t remember what game it was though
1:38 Man I just can't imagine Arlo ever cursing XD
Fr thats what I thought
I can picture him saying stuff like "Arrrrgh! You piece of Shady Farting Aspen trees!" or some other, equally hilarious non-profanity
I mean he's into more mature edgier things as well (He loves the Doom games on Switch and is a fan of Jim Sterling).
He keeps a family friendly approach on screen but he's a normal adult behind screen.
Most of us keep things safe when around children or in a professional environment and let loose a little when we're by ourselves or in an appropriate environment, it's the same for Arlo as anyone else.
I heard him "say" the S word in a YTP once but that's kind of it.
@@bendykirby4828 "Sassafras"?
Ranking every major Nintendo Collection to date:
S Tier: Kirby's Dream Collection, Metroid Prime Trilogy, Super Mario All-Stars + World Edition
A Tier: Wind Waker preorder Bonus(OoT/MQ), Super Mario All-Stars(original), Legend of Zelda Collector's Edition
B Tier: all 4 Game & Watch Gallery games
C Tier: Mario 3D All-Stars, Super Mario All-Stars(Wii Version).
Forgot the best of all: Metroid Prime Trilogy
@@heindevriendt3258 I'm surprised I actually blanked out on that hahaha. But yeah, easy S Tier.
What's different about the Wii version of allstars compared to the orignal of allstars?
I've played all 3 allstars
@@PuffyBuffy25 the main issue with the Wii version of Super Mario All-Stars was that it was a direct port of the SNES Original, with the only difference being that it came with an artbook. The problem lies in that they went with selling that at the standard retail of 50 dollars(and later for 20 as a Nintendo Selects without the book IIRC) instead of just releasing All-Stars on the Wii Virtual Console for 8 bucks. So it's similar to the 3D All-Stars criticisms going on now, but at least in that case we got an official port of Sunshine out of it.
@@fawfulmark2 Ah ok.
Gotta say: I started Super Mario 64 and I thought I would have not liked it. God, was I wrong!! I am in love with it, I have unlocked around 90 Stars and I can see how it is a CLASSIC. While playing it for the FIRST TIME (in 2021) I could really see how for many many people it is their FAVOURITE game ever. I love it.
Well of course. Oldie = Goldie applies to a lot. I find it more engaging than Odyssey overall, Odyssey was over too quickly for me and I don't want to count about 800 moons post game as a thing sorry, they should have simply made the Moon count to fight Bowser higher for one. And there were too few Worlds with 2 or 3 bland ones.
glitchy movement aside, I actually loved sunshine because it felt challenging, something I rarely found in odyssey. I never even played sunshine as a kid so there wasn't too much nostalgia bias imo.
Plot twist: Arlo actually loved Paper Mario: The Origami King, and is making a BOTW style review, that is why it's taking so long to be released .
No.
I was thinking that too.
i would pay nintendo game prices for that
I have been wondering about that..
I think whatever way it goes, he’s planning on going as in depth as possible, wouldn’t be surprised if the review is an hour+. Arlo is known as the “paper Mario” guy, and his most popular video is a 4 hour game review. I think he intends to go all out for the Origami King.
I think Nintendo really needs to step up their game when it comes to legacy content. They really cannot stand up to emulators, and it's a damn shame.
Well it is true but I'd still rather have them put their resources in new experiences than legacy content. But they should make legacy content available. Because it barely is besides NES and SNES games. I just want to be able to play the base games and have Nintendo build new games meanwhile.
They really should. But will they? Absolutely not. As long as we all keep buying these releases in their absolute barebones state, then Nintendo will keep on giving us just that. The only ones we have to blame are ourselves
I dont feel like Nintendo's a company that looks backwards unless its really obvious that they should. When it comes to their legacy content I mean.
@@FireRayquaza24 I blame them and myself. lol
I'm really starting to dislike the Mario franchise recently.
Surprised that you didn’t mention the whole limited release thing. I guess that’s another topic for another day I suppose
He has videos on this, I think more than one, even
The best thing about super Mario 64 is the atmosphere, it is very dreamlike
Agreed. I've even heard people say that they thought Mario 64 was kind of scary because of that, which in my opinion makes it even better, the fact that it got to people on a psychological level makes it that much more iconic lol Also thats what I loved about it, it felt like those dreams that you can't quite tell if its a nightmare or not. Which is what it should be really since Bowser created the worlds.
it feels so lonely
I'm worried about the possibility of an all digital future where game ownership is totally over. I'm still happy playing 64 and Sunshine on my Wii (that is also a Gamecube).
I would absolutely hate that above anything else. I'd rather see Nintendo go bankrupt before we lose physical media.
People are so caught up in how much "better" a streaming service would be, but fail to see how soulless and hollow it would feel to just pay a subscription and have access to games. Not owning a single one of them - no tactility, no display, _nothing._
That is a harrowing vision of the future. Call me materialistic, but I actually like to own the things that I pay for.
My fear is that once digital becomes the norm and physical goes away, companies focus more on one-and-done experiences and stop making games that are meant to last. Game design philosophy in the 80s and early 90s was basically "Let's give players a reason to keep coming back." Arcade games like Pac-Man and Galaga asked you to get higher scores, Sonic games challenged you to beat the levels as fast as possible, Super Metroid let you do things out of order to make each playthrough different, Final Fantasy allowed you to experiment with different teams and setups, etc. Games nowadays seem more interested in giving amazing experiences that are more akin to movies. They put so much care into the story that the gameplay lacks the kind of care that was given previously. That's not to say these games are bad or even that they are unfulfilling, but they don't really give you very much reason to play them more than once. The Last of Us, Uncharted, God of War, Red Dead Redemption, even Nintendo games like Breath of the Wild. These games are laser focused on making your first experience the most amazing thing ever, only for the impact to diminish exponentially when you try to play through them again. I'm glad that Indie games have been picking up the slack with games like Hollow Knight and Celeste, but it feels like this game design philosophy is mostly dead in the industry. And once gaming goes all digital, game devs will have little reason to make these kinds of games anymore.
@@jacobmonks3722 I see where you're coming from. I think this is more of an issue with story-focused games in general, rather than something that's happening because of changing attitudes and demands. I doubt 'arcade-like' game design will ever go away, it simply fluctuates in popularity, just like with every other style of game.
@@alfo2804 Technically, we’ve never owned a game, just a temporary license linked to that console. In reality, we’ve had the illusion of owning a game but that’s it. This transition towards all-digital/streaming services is only logical from that perspective. It’s a good deal for every party involved.
Sure, it’s crazy to think that perhaps some day streaming services will be norm but I don’t think they’ll be the only alternative for decades to come. As of now, I’m happy with subscription services of retro games, since it’s a better deal than buying each game individually, imo.
@@josearanguibel945 Technically, if you have a mortgage, you don't own your house. Despite that, having a house on a mortgage is very different from renting one - if nothing else, it _feels_ different.
The same is true here. I own a copy of Super Mario 64. It's _tangible,_ it's _tactile,_ it's something I can _physically touch_ and know that I own it - it's _mine._ Yeah, it might legally only be a licence, but it's more than that. It's an object, fashioned deliberately and it has a history. Somebody bought it when it was brand new. It probably traded hands a lot before it got to be in my possession - it's got a story behind it. As does every other physical copy of every other game ever made.
They're not just some data held on a server somewhere, they're real. If I'm playing a game, it's all being done right in front of me. The device that I own is doing all of the computational work, interfacing with whatever I've put into its receptacle.
It's a deeply personal experience; an authenticity that connects you to everyone that might have ever played that game; an experience that is only enhanced by your past self being amongst those, or if you're only just adding yourself to that list.
It's difficult to put to words exactly how it makes me feel, but I know that it definitely does not feel the same if the game is digital - even though it might be downloaded to my console, a fundamental element of that pure experience is already missing. If the industry shifts any further, that experience will be lost forever, and that's upsetting to think about.
11:45
Someone forgot about the bombing the garbage missions.
i spent an hour on the second garbage bombing star my first time. second playthrough i did the same mission my second try. i have no words
You have to throw the bombs on the yellow marks then its super easy
Yuuuup
And some of the perple coins.
the garbage missions are always hard on your first try but a cinch on replays
A “big fat review” of Super Mario Galaxy, you say? YES PLEASE!
Nintendo: stop playing our old games with emulators
Also Nintendo: *uses an emulator to run sunshine in 3d all stars*
Nintendo : *I use an emulator to destroy the emulators*
*home emulating is still better than the switch emulating*
Pretty sure the message is "stop stealing" lol
@@DevinAK49 steal what exactly, 10+ year old games, that Nintendo doesn't profit off of the original releases
@@scarletnight4554 they profit on re-releasing the ip
In my opinion, this is a bundle of 3 incredible games in a lackluster, lazy collection.
Nintendo really could've done a lot more to honor Mario's legacy than just emulations of three 3D Mario games like original artwork, concept art, physical items, a bigger and special box, and so on.
Instead the only additional content we got were the soundtracks which we could already find here on YT and the internet, also Galaxy 2 and 3D World being left out for no reason other than to resell it in a deluxe packaging and whatever the reasons Galaxy 2 is not in here is more than disappointing when Nintendo could've easily put those games in here as well.
And what's with 3d land an 64ds?
I WANTED LUIGI GAMBLING!!!!
I bring this up basically anytime 3D Allstars is mentioned, but comparing this to Kirby’s Dream Collection is laughable.
3D Allstars has 3 Classic Games + OSTs of those games. There’s literally no original or bonus content here, and if this was released at any other time (i.e., not for Mario’s anniversary), I don’t think people would have noticed.
Dream Collection has Six Classic Games + A Kirby timeline featuring every game up to that point (as well as 3 anime episodes and [in Japan] manga chapters!) + New Challenge Stages + A History Booklet featuring behind the scenes content + A CD containing 1-4 songs from nearly every Kirby game in the series to that point (and three new arrangements!). All wrapped up in special packaging. All of this when combined with some of the music and menus makes it feel like a real celebration.
Hecc, we can just compare the Opening Sequences + Title Screens and call it a day.
Mario 3D all stars menus look like Microsoft PowerPoint slides
@@FedoraKirb Man that collection was absolutely staked, don't know why Nintendo can't put even half of that effort into Mario of all properties.
Arlo: **talks bad about Sunshine**
“You have become the very thing you swore to destroy...”
High ground And all that shit
how arlo talks about sunshine is how I feel about 64, minus the whole "I love this game" part which I didn't. I didn't grow up with 64, which means I see 64 as it truly is, which is a massive pile of shit.
But he also says he still loves it.
@@NinjaMaster-og8ti Banjo Kazooie, Star Fox 64, Ocarina of Time, and Majoras Mask beg to differ.
@@NinjaMaster-og8ti
Did you seriously just call one of the most important and revolutionary games ever made "a massive pile of shit"?
You do realise it was pioneering in a mostly unexplored realm of the medium, it was the first to do many of the things that made the fundamentals of many parts of modern gaming.
A few flaws is absolutely acceptable and to be expected of something so groundbreaking, in fact they did far better than anyone could hope for their first attempt and the game still holds up as plenty enjoyable in many areas to this day.
You're clearly some form of child with no respect for the mediums history and evolution.
As a 20 year old coming to 64 for the first time, am I the only one who thinks it’s aged pretty well? Maybe my expectations were too low after Sunshine disappointed me, but 64 has a timeless charm that makes it worthwhile even for someone like me. Also, I honestly think it has the best controls of the pack. Galaxy‘s are a little constrained (although I love that game), Sunshine’s feel off to me (although I like that game just fine), but 64’s has the versatility and weight to singlehandedly keep me engaged.
I completely agree on the aged well part
From my own experience I never felt the controls as sluggish and had found the mistakes I made being for my fault then the games
I mean, of course, we're all bound to have different experiences although even with an ABSOLUTE WORST experience and no nostalgia being factors I can still see someone enjoying it.
Sunshine ''disappointing''????
What else will the crazy Opinion-ade wash up!!!??
Mario 64 has really unique controls. I can see why someone might say they've aged poorly, but it's really that they're more nuanced and unforgiving than any modern platformer, or even most platformers of its time. It can make the game frustrating but it also can make the game more fun to play around with and perfect. I'd still make some adjustments if I had the option, like making it so Mario doesnt lose his footing so easily, slide less aggressively when he does lose his footing, increase the speed at which you risk bonking off of walls, and remove some of the camera restrictions, but I wouldn't change the fundamentals. They're an acquired taste but really good for what they are
Arlo is a great example of what integrity in journalism should look like. Looking through the lens of observation without the tint of ones own views heavily impacting the conclusion, leaving the verdict open to the viewers interpretation. I wish more reviewers were like this. Thanks Arlo :-)
My favorite ARLO intro was "YOUR'E WRONG!"
@Jon I watched a bunch of old videos just now to find it and I couldn't but it was funny.
"all that glitters is old"
Well, that is true of diamonds, petrol and gold so...you got a point.
All is old.... the molecules that make you up are absurdly old. But.... you would not consider yourself ancient would you? No because humanity does not think that deep. When a human is born or a product is made or something was just discovered we call it “new”. Using humanity as our source for the definition of the word “old” results in craft glitter not being old and the title inaccurate. Of course this is not true on a molecular level, because nothing’s entirely new but....erm...where am I going with this...? Uhhhh my cat rules!
@@stylesnivy1839 i will not argue against the fact that your cat does indeed rule.
@Kutao Izumi
Technically weather or not Arlo is correct depends on your personal definition of old and context.
@@harrisonmissell1716 i love this
Oil like whale oil isnt old. At least. Not older than the whale. If you mean mineral oil then. Petrol is redundant and isnt old as it was only recently refined.
So many people mistake "revolutionary at the time" or "nostalgic" for good.
Lol agreed
I've first played mario sunshine now in 2019 and it's still my favourite mario game. But the port was bad, it didn't fix any of the issues.
By that same token people often use the fact that something has become outdated or unrefined by today's standards to claim that it was never good.
Nice video Arlo. This is one of the first videos I've seen on this game that wasn't super negative, I liked it!
"All that glitters is old" this title is golden
Is the title old?
@@stylesnivy1839 Nah it's a Led Zeppelin reference lmao
@@progrockdude2691 Which in itself is a reference to 'All that glitters is not gold' by Shakespeare.
Passed on this collection because of your point about the modders outdoing Nintendo. There's absolutely no reason as to why Mario 64 is in 4:3 720p at 30 fps. Same with Sunshine being at 30. Nintendo knows they can get away with it and people would still buy it, so they were just flat out lazy with these "remasters." Crash N-Sane trilogy was rebuilt ground up on a modern day engine and was still cheaper than this collection, same with the Spiro remaster. Nintendo's anti-consumer business practices with the whole limited time release stuff and the joycon drift fiasco made me lose a lot of trust in them as of late. Nintendo has always been somewhat scummy, but it feels like it's gotten a lot worse ever since Iwata passed away.
There is a reason. They didn’t try
idk they haven’t always been scummy, right up until 2018 nintendo were basically fine imo
I've been saying this for a while. Iwata was a genuinely good CEO with the consumer's and employee's best interests in mind. Even when he made a mistake as big as the WiiU, he owned up to it and accepted responsibility as the CEO. That's what a good leader does.
Also, the reason it took Nintendo a while to devolve into these scummy practices after Iwata's passing is that a lot of stuff, such as the Switch, was already planned and being worked on by Iwata while he was still alive. I believe that once Nintendo ran out of Iwata's good ideas and had to come up with stuff on their own, that's when this era of Nintendo's rampant corporate greed started.
@@ross3209 It might have to do with the Wii U being a faliure. Since the system wasn't well liked, Nintendo had to step up their game to keep consumers invested. Now that they're successful again, they've let things get to their heads
To be fair, Spyro and crash games can be beat in like, one maybe two days because they were yearly releases at the time. The Mario games are much meatier expirences
"The game feels like it's designed to frustrate you" 6:06
I feel the same way about mario 64, a fair few of the worlds feel so frustrating to move around in I almost put the game down for good several times, such as the desert world. There's a fair few levels where the camera being off makes you misplace a jump and it's just so unbelievablely annoying. And certain levels where a small mistake and you're taking enough fall damage to lose a life or just falling off the map entirely. It feels like the game is designed to frustrate you with camera angles that barely help and controls that while not terrible feel like they could be better tbh.
Its certainly not a master class in level design. Not even close. But it was one of the first 3d videogames ever so it kinda makes sense that they didnt focus on the level design.
I get where you're coming from, but it might also have to do with how new to the game you may be. The controls aren't as fluid as they are today, but it still is a lot of fun
@@sigmario859 I feel like much of the praise it gets is from nostalgia. Its kinda poorly designed. Plus the fact that all the controls suck in 3d allstars doesnt help.
@@orange_turtle3412 I regularly play the game for fun from start to finish at least once a year because I enjoy it. Not all levels are amazing. They do suffer from a poor camera. Even so, those levels aren't necessary to beat the game. The game itself along with most of the levels are just fun to run around in. I acknowledge how rough/poorly designed it is being the first 3D Mario game, but it deserves the praise it gets. There is a reason it still gets talked about to this day.
@@orange_turtle3412 I'm fine with the controls personally. Haven't had an issue yet after they made the GCC compatible with Sunshine.
"Super Mario Galaxy has no jankiness or annoying challenges."
Spring Mario.
Anyway, I still own both 64 and Galaxy on Wii. The only game I don't own (anymore) is Sunshine. And Sunshine is not worth the price of entry for this collection.
Surprised there was no mention of its limited-time release, by the way. I'm not getting the collection myself, and there's been more than enough copies to go around (take that, scalpers!), but the limited release is still lame.
There is a little jankiness, there is this little flaw in the game where Mario just starts running in circles for know reason, I died a couple of times because of that.
If you time your jumps just right, than u don't need the Spring Mushroom. Only one or 2 areas you might. But the rest that u can jump through it without the help of the Spring Mushroom.
Imo Spring Mushroom isn’t nearly as bad as people say it is, really it’s just a matter of timing your jumps well
I never got why people have a problem with Spring Mario. Even when I was a kid it wasn't difficult to control
Super Mario Galaxy 2 is where it's at-
3D All-Stars: *S I L E N C E*
Souper Galaxi Dos
Also, Mario 64 DS.
@@Crazy_Gamer_OG I am sick of 64 ds because I 100% it and it hurts my hand
All Stars: I've never met this man before in my life.
Arlo lore confirmed: Arlos needs the sandboxes
Mine:
64: 8.5/10
Sunshine: 6.5/10
Galaxy: 9/10
Collection: 4.5/10
For me it is 64 4/10 sunshine 2/10 Galaxy 7/10 collection 0/10
My opinion:
64: 6/10
Sunshine: 7/10
Galaxy: 9.5/10
Collection: 7.5/10
The fact that he put a clip of him going thru that whole part and dies at 16:08 and immediately cuts it made me laugh more than i should've xDDDDD
I really like this new review system, Arlo! Keep up the great work! Also, I'm still waiting for the origami king review.
I second this comment
I third this comment
To everyone who gets this collection, never go for 100% in Sunshine. Just do yourself a favor and only go for the story missions. It will save you so much grief.
Edit; allow me to state a very controversial opinion- I’d rather go for the Red Rings in Sonic Lost World for the Wii U.
Agreed. Sunshine and Odyssey are excellent game, but no way I would ever be able to one hundred percent them.
Was it still hard to get 100% on _Sunshine_ in the orignal Gamecube version?
@@1685Violin yes. It is. This is why Sunshine needed a remake and not a simple port.
@HeavyDonkeyKong idk, I feel like odyssey was meant to be 100% completed. Compared to sunshine, odyssey has only a couple annoying moons, and even if they're annoying, they don't feel like they just don't work. I haven't played Sunshine, but I don't think the game was meant to be completed. I mean some of the levels in that game just look horrible on every front. That's just my opinion though.
@@heavydonkeykong5190 a bit of an apples to oranges comparison though. One is just tedious because there are over 900 of the macguffins to collect while the other 1 just has many macguffins that suck to collect.
Sunshine is my favorite Mario and always will be. No matter the glitches.
Well guess what, they are fixing glitches AND adding gamecube controller support in the new update
Sunshine's lack of polish just adds to the magic for me. I don't know why
It really is an mess and does lack of polished. Wish it gotten an proper remake.
I have absolutely phenomenal luck with glitches, cameras, motion controls and such in games. I absolutely love Sunshine, inside and out. It works great for me.
@@RacingSnails64 yeah, once you get to know how the game function it because a lot of fun. The game becomes a toy
@@jaretco6423 ? It's not a mess at all. I'll take a few charming soft glitches alongside a Super-fun game like Sunshine over a 'perfectly' polished and squeaky clean flawlessly smooth running game that isn't half as fun - like Mario Odyssey, anyday.
@netweed09 It is an messy game. It is an rushed game after all. And even if it wasn't, the game is nowhere near as super fun anyway cause the levels and mission you do are absolutely obnoxious & repetitive.
I'm still waiting on that 'Big Fat Review of Oragami King'
Mello Im loving that game so far
I think a lot of Mario Sunshine's appeal comes from it's fantastic tropical theming. The music and visuals come together so well (especially on Sirena Beach), just imagine how well a second Sunshine would feel to play with a focus on visuals and immersive, dynamic environments. I was bummed Delfino didn't make it into Odyssey
I can appreciate it's tropical theming & it's visual. I just wish the game itself was alot better, though.
Been watching your videos lately and I love how well put you describe everything like a knowledgeable critic...in the disguise of a puppet lol
I'm terrified at the thought of Arlo cursing.
The gods shiver in fear everytime arlo curses
This was my first time playing 64 and I was suprised by how much it held up, it’s clunky as heck but some of the movements felt so much more bouncy and fun than so many new other platforms Ed I’ve played
The movement in 64 honestly shits on most modern games today imo
@@pissant42 what? No it doesn’t. Not when turning 180 degrees is so inconsistent and when wall jumping just sucks.
@@Mojo1356 Hard disagree. Wall jumping is a mechanic that has gotten increasingly easier and less satisfying in games. When you pull off a wall jump in Mario 64, you pulled that mf off. It requires you to line up your initial jump while also timing the kick within a very tight window. It can be hard to achieve, but there's nothing more satisfying seeing Mario launch after a successful wall kick. Compare that to how it's used nowadays where the timing window is so wide you'd have to physically not be holding your controller to mess it up. The way they handle wall jumping in Mario Odyssey is just so floaty and slow it lacks the weight and the momentum of the wall jump from Mario 64. Seriously go look up gameplay of the wall jump from Mario Odyssey it's actually pathetic
@@pissant42 satisfying to pull it off in 64? Don’t see it. I only get sighs of relief that the game decided to let me wall jump. It’s the big reason why I hate the 100 coin mission in Rainbow Cruise so much. Better to be floaty than punishing imho.
@@Mojo1356 The 100 coin missions are supposed to be a challenge, that's the whole point.
How dare you get All-Star stuck in my head today
some *BODY ONCE TOLD ME THE WORLD IS GONNA ROLL ME I AIN'T THE SHARPEST TOOL IN THE SHED* (obligatory bass boosted earrape version of All Star is required)
Ok but the keemstar meme version
_Hank Green intensifies_
Arlo puts out the best Nintendo reviews. Hands down. Hope we get a big 2021.
1:37 Arlo CURSES?! He’s too wholesome for that!
I love the setting of Isle Delfino. I love how imaginative the Pianta people and Nokk are with their own aesthetics and personalities.
I have a crackpot theory that the collection wasn’t meant to exist but felt obligated to make something in light of the rumors. It’s the only explanation I can think of for how half assed this is
Nah, with all the other stuff that was showed off in the Mario direct, there’s no way they weren’t preparing for the anniversary. This is 100% lazy on Nintendo
Maybe not because of the rumours, but I can image this kind of thing being requested for a while.
I never played the games before this collection so I felt it was totally worth the price all of them are great
The only one I played was galaxy but it was over a decade ago and I was pretty young so I only remember the start. Sure the collection doesn’t have extra stuff but the games are awesome. Honestly I’d rank 1. Galaxy 2. Sunshine and 3. 64 since I have no nostalgia for 64. They’re all good though that’s just my preference
Emulate them instead.
Sees the Piano in Mario 64
*Vietnam flashback*
Sunshine was a mess now that I finally beat it. So happy I'm taking a break from Mario before I start Galaxy.
@Mr. Obama Jr. I beat sunshine last week and i can confidently say it was a frustrating mess
I finally beat it back in 04, when I initially purchased it in 02, I felt so blessed in beating a very hard game that I felt was easy or something like that. Now looking back and playing it again I’m like no, this game was hard af.
Galaxy is the only one I actually want. But with my undying love of motion controls, I want to track down a copy for the Wii. Yes, that's right, I have a Wii and never bought either Galaxy games.
Like Arlo says. Galaxy is where 3D Mario games starts to get really good.
Same. Sunshine wore me out to death due to many dumb decisions of the designs & missions and I didn't had an good time with it as I was back than. Not an horrible game and I can at least appreciate some of it's potential and some improvements over 64. But ultimately, it was an messy game. Same with 64. Though I had an easier time in 64 more than Sunshine cause I don't have to do every levels to get to Bowser. So yeah. I'm gonna play Galaxy and enjoy my time with it.
My review: I miss the virtual console
Virtual Console is the superior option
I like how Arlo is honest and straight to the point, most try and defend this kind of stuff
One thing that I'd ike to discuss that you talked briefly about is that these games, except Sunshine, are designed to be played however the player wants to, in order to simply finish the game.
In that respect, Mario 64 excells, because apart from the first courses, nay, the first mission in the first one, you can do whatever you want to finish the game, you just need 70 stars out of the 120 in the game (a little above half of the stars in the game, about 58%) and defeating the final boss.
Galaxy feels slower in that regard because it has an intro, a tutorial and a tutorial mission. Then you open the first dome, where you can access various galaxy (still at a slower rate), but then you have to at least defeat the boss of that dome to access the next one. That is to say, not only you need 60 out of 120 stars, literally half of the stars in the game, but you are forced to do more specific missions. In addition, there are different star requirements for each levle in each world, some stars are tied to the random comets, some you can get only by collecting some particular previous ones, and others are only unlocked after you beat the game for the first time, not to mention what happens after getting 120 stars and defeating the final boss again.
Sunshine limits you even more, because to finish the game you need to get the first shine and the first seven in the seven worlds in this game, you don't have a choice. You have to get 50 out of 120 shines, but you are forced to play specific ones, the others sadly don't matter at all.
It's funny how the focus on story is the element that forces players to play more and more specific missions in them to simply finish the game.
Galaxy does a fine job balancing it, but the best one in this respect is the latest game in this style, Odyssey, which has some moons that you have to get to progress the story in the kingdoms and the overarching one, but you still have so much freedom, unlocking new kingdoms is related to a certain number of moons in the current one and there are so many all around.
That said, I still love all of these games so much, because they're all really fun, but it's interesting to compare them in various ways, a big one being what levels are obligatory in order to at least beat the game, which is what most players are expected to do.
Yeah. I agree whole hardly. Especially with Sunshine. That's one of the reasons why I don't go back to Sunshine that often and being one of my least favorite 3D Mario games. Besides halve of the broken level designs, mission structured & Shine Sprites placements that are both being aggravating & obnoxious, going through every single courses and episodes 1-7 in order to unlock the final level of the game instead of just collecting the amount of Shine Sprites that you only need and have an option is so tedious to do & it makes collecting the extra shines really worthless. Granted; u don't need to 100% the game in order to beat the game & it's worthless anyway since 100% it & reward u get sucks. But since Sunshine is an follow up to 64 with it's open sandbox style, it makes it so much worst. Besides improvement controls & mechanics that Sunshine does do better than 64, Sunshine's level wise was an humongous step backwards from 64 that not even an great control or mechanics can make up it's horrendous game design choices. Wish is sad because Sunshine could've been alot better if they had more time.
64: old
Sunshine: janky/glitchy
Galaxy: fun
That’s the entire video in a nutshell
Also I am new to these games and I am loving sunshine’s movement, hooked on galaxy and trying to 100% it
64 just isn’t doing it for me tho
64 is the worst i agree
I also agree
Play Super Mario 64 DS on an emulator, or find it if you have a DS. It is a superior version of SM64.
I played through 64 completely first, because I knew it would be hard to go backwards.
yup 64 is crap and did not age well
I love that thing that alto does at the start of all his videos saying something funny. It is always nice to hear that.
Arlo: ‘There is only good levels in Galaxy.’
Me: *Trash exploding mission flashbacks*
Arlo: ‘There are no large obstacle courses that you can fall off of, all the way to the beginning.’
Me: *Purple coins and snowman missions in Freeze Flame Galaxy flashbacks*
There still less of annoyance than the other previous 3D Mario games & they're not all that bad if you know what yo do or where yo find them.
my problem was the screwshroom levels, like the one with the big toy robot. Still easier/funner than Sunshine's shadow/no FLUDD levels tbh
Excellent video Arlo. Also, please, please, please, never change your outro music. It warms my whistling-along soul to hear it. Thank you.
Can't wait until Nintendo sells these to me again in a few years with slightly better textures and a resolution bump!
For double the price
Nothing wrong with that. Nobody's holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy it.
Don't buy it dummy
@@ActionJaxonH You’re missing the point completely.
@@ActionJaxonH You don't get the point buddy.
Super Mario 64: Just like most people with skin it didn't exactly age that well
Super Mario Sunshine: The game breaks under the pressure of being played normally, and the player breaks under the pressure of playing Sunshine
Super Mario Galaxy: it's galaxy what do you want me to say
Super Mario Galaxy 2: [REDACTED]
At the end of the day, 3D All-Stars exists... and that's about all it has going for it
You’re everywhere
@@EtherealMystic what a groundbreaking discovery
Super Mario 3D land: Forgotten
Gold
@@ireplytoeverything3122 why would they port 3d land when
1) it's not nearly as iconic as the other 3 games, and
2) 3d world is coming soon anyway
This is the review I needed to see. I picked up 3D All Stars because I had never played any of these (and had no nostalgia links to any of them).
Mario 64 was ok. I completed it but it felt like kind of a chore
Sunshine I was excited about, but I quickly got frustrated with how unnecessarily difficult it was, and gave up. I just wasn't having fun with it.
Galaxy is a blast so far. It's it many ways exactly what I was looking for in a 3D Mario game.
Do you think it’s worth buying? Or would Breath of the Wild be better?
Hope we get something like this for Zelda's 35th like Skyward sword, OoT and WInd Waker in a bundle.
I would like Skyward Sword just for the use of traditional controls. Its the only 3D Zelda game I couldn't get into because I hated the Wii controls.
@@foxmccloudizsexy Yeah, a wasn't a huge fan of the wiimote either.
And a Zelda battle royale
@@moofusgoofus Something like 4 swords would be great for the switch... where people can Link up... get it... Link up. XD
@@foxmccloudizsexy Congrats, Skyward Sword HD
Arlo: Super Mario Sunshine is the worst 3D Mario.
Me, a long time Arlo fan: [insert surprise Pikachu face]
@John Cenner It is not*
It was by far the worst port.
Simple proper gamecube controller support would do wonders for it.
@@Iivaitte lol that wouldn’t have changed how the game is designed
It is the worst. Doesn't make it an bad game reminding you. But it is the weakest of the 3. Even if it finally added GC controls to the system, it doesn't make up the games design.
@@jjc4924 How long has it been since you've played 64?
I'm not even mad at the lily pad level anymore. After replaying SMS so many times over the years it's those damn blue coins in Corona Mountain that requires the most patience and concentration. JUST GO WHERE I WANT YOU TO BOAT!!!
Haha Corona
Am I funny
No I think not
🍑
@@bandibandibandibandi damn i was gonna make that joke
the corona boat becomes a LOT more bearable when you realize that tiny squirts to the back of the boat, facing either side, drive the boat as smoothly as a racing game.
I got those blue coins in 2 lives. The lily pad level cost me at least 20+ lives. Mario sunshine is infuriating
@@OpXarxa sadly no analogue triggers tho
If I had a nickel for every time Arlo said "That's a discussion for another day"...
These reviews are so fun to watch
Nostalgia is such a lazy crutch, especially in reviews.
I agree, saying that something is only perceived as good because of peoples' nostalgia is lazy and foolish
Easy cash grab. Everything new is too shiny and sucks ass. Its expensive and doesn't have lasting value like the games of old did
@@Matanumi Everything? Then why is it Nintendo that gets way more flack than other companies? It seems that it's only Nintendo that does those moves from what I'm seeing.
@@Matanumi that’s not true, at all
@@Matanumi Try playing a genre you've never tried before. A 4X game, a music game, a point-and-click adventure, something to get you out of your comfort zone. You never know when you'll find something you'll love forever.
(if you want recommendations for those genres:
4X: Endless Space 2;
Music: Muse Dash;
Point & Click: Sam & Max: The Devil's Playhouse)
I have no nostalgia for Sunshine or 64. So far, 64 has actually been my favorite to play. I’m not loving Sunshine though, but it’s definitely not horrible
I find the controls difference between sunshine and 64 to be remarkable and probably responsible for much of the unwarranted hostility towards sunshine. This is just based on my experience of trying to play 64 for the first time and finding the controls to be atrocious (especially the camera).
Otherwise much of the complains like bugs and frustrating levels is shared between the 2 with sunshine having a few more bugs (that i rarely encounter, even while trying) and 64 having worse level design. But i will say that this port is a definite downgrade for sunshine because of the controls changes, but maybe thats my muscle memory getting in the way amd having no ability to invert the y-axis controls to behave properly. (Like airplane stick controls, pull back to pick up the nose and go up)
I haven't tried galaxy on the switch yet, but it was awesome on the Wii and I'm concerned the port messed up its controls as well.
As someone who didn’t play any of these games until 3d allstars. I LOVE THESE GAMES. No frustration with starting all over, I feel it’s part of the game and so rewarding when you finally accomplish the goal. So when I replay it, every time I think back to where I was on a certain chapter that took forever to complete. Stages that are hard to complete gives me time to explore areas instead of zooming through stage after stage.
I know a lot of people have already bought the collection, but I actually was watching this video to decide whether or not to get it, so thank you for being so thorough!
I loath these moments in SM64, when you're standing on an edge and JUST WANT TO TURN AROUND. You move the stick backwards and Mario is RUNNING IN A CIRCLE OVER THE EDGE!
6 hours to get 100 coins in the rainbow level... Need I say more xD?
You move it backwards too quickly. Be gentle with the stick and Mario will turn on a dime
@@nc1729 I wish there would have been some kind of sensitivity settings for the sticks. Lining up the canons shots felt like heart surgery 🤣
Yes I ran into that too making it to Bowser the first time. Couldn’t beat the level at all until I learned to gently turn around.
16:07 This is sunshine’s frustration in a nutshell
For me its when you try to adjust your footing and accidentally do a backflip and you just overshot your jump by what feels like 40 yards
Imho, these aren’t remakes, they’re ROMs.
Yes.
I'm not defending Nintendo or the collection but no one ever said these were remakes?
@@kirin1230 yeah lol
A die hard Nintendo fan would pay $55 bucks for this game even though you can play these on a dolphin emulator for free.
@@kirin1230 bruh everyone said they were remakes of at least galaxy
Those sequences from Sunshine you showed ticked me off so much that I literally got a migraine
"Galaxy is when 3D Mario's started getting good."
Well that's enough Arlo for one day.
He wasn’t saying they were bad before, he was just saying galaxy was the first game to be good and not have any major flaws
And I agree with that statement, 100% The camera and pacing in Mario 64 and especially Sunshine... man, they were awful. People like to shit on old 3d games cameras (deservedly so), but Mario 64 (and Ocarina) tends to be overprotected because of the pioneer effect. I don't care if they arrived first or last, the negatives are present, why pretend otherwise?
But he's right
@@SmokePudding Yeah I don’t understand the original comment
@Tattle Boad Ocarina of Time aged like milk, this isn't subjective. Controls, graphical engine, gameplay, etc.. they all aged badly. Regarding the overall music and the artstyle, these can be considered subjective, the music remains as good as ever... but that's it. Ocarina is arguably the most overrated game ever made, the praise for it's pioneer effect is perfectly valid, but to say the game itself is amazing? Especially nowadays? That's a clear sign of fanaticism.
As a person who never got to play SM64, I agree that the controls and physics feel wonky.
My exact opinions while playing
imo it's fun to mess around with but in vertical levels like Rainbow ride and TT clock it becomes a bit annoying
Mario 64 is a game that starts off perfect, then towards the later levels become mediocre
As a newcomer sunshine is more fun even though it’s more difficult
@@ireplytoeverything3122 I HIGHLY agree with your take (but low-key, I did like Snow Man's Land but that's beside the point).
I was actually still wondering if I should buy the game still and I just want to thank you for actually telling the truth about these games because I’ve only played galaxy a little bit at a friends house
He's definitely being honest but that doesn't he's right. I didn't play these games as a kid and I absolutely adored playing Mario 64, and am bored to tears with Galaxy. Sunshine I mostly agree with, except that I think it actually feels worse than 64.
I only bought this collection just so I could finish Mario Galaxy.
I never played Mario 64 back in the day
And I could not put this game down… It was a surreal and amazing experience of a game
I was just taking a nostalgia trip playing Mario Galaxy on Switch when I got this notification.
Wow has it been a year already since then? Holy spamoley! Arlo still crankin out banger reviews and still bein ultra blue n awesome!
I love your reviews!