I just unpacked my lathe after a 12 year break and jumped right back into bowl turning. I had forgotten how bad of a catch you can get with a scraper. I was reminded of it rather dramatically as soon as I tried lol🤯
I never use a gouge and always end with a smooth finish...sharp scrapers and move slowly. Turners make turning more difficult than it really is. Agreed...very light pressure.
Thank you very much for the detailed info. for this 66 year old new turner.... Your videos have always been helpful to me for getting my techniques down.....
Glad I could help, Randy. The American Assciation has some great resources on their website for novice turners. Click here to explore www.woodturner.org/?page=LearningTracksLP
I added your Amazon link to my bookmarks toolbar so when I go to Amazon, I automatically am repaying you for all the good tips. Thanks again for all your effort to spread the knowledge.
Thank you so much for your help with negative rack scraping. I was quite impressed with your use with a skew, that to me seemed to be better than any of the scraper that you used. I have to say at this conjuncture that I'm more than a beginner in so far as I have hardly used my lathe of tools due to a long term illness, but I'm getting better now. So, the majority of my knowledge has been gratefully received from the likes of your good self and other 'class' woodturners, thank you again Mike, 5 Stars. John A J Oakes.
As per Marc below, Just this week I had a bowl 'Pop'. I was sooo annoyed. The bowl was done and just the last finishing touch...Hopefully people will learn before the event thanks to you. One of the first things an Ol boy at my local club said was sand the edges of your tool. Am now anticipating your video on negative rake scrapers.
Great video, Mike! I received left and right Hurricane bowel scrapers for Christmas and since it's getting warm enough in my unheated Ohio pole barn shop, I referred to your video for the first grinding on them.
Thanks for the tips Mike. My bowl scraping hasn’t been as good as I hoped, after watching this I now know why. Wishing tou a Happy New Year and looking forward to many more great videos.
Excellent tips on scraping. In Stuart Batty's class that I attended he demonstrated how to use the burr that you describe to create a surface that required almost no sanding. But he also says that that burr typically lasts less than 1 minute.
Mike Peace Woodturning I think your results are consistent with his. His tools are CPM 10V steel but I think he was referring to the M2 tools that the students brought to the class.
Thanks for the tips, Mike. I'm a new turner and have only used carbides up to now. But, I have the 7-piece Benjamin's Best plus the BB two-piece half-round scraper set that I'm ready to use.
Hi Mike , I think if tool manufacturers were to spend more time making finishing touches on tools @3:29 they would put the cost on to the customers ,,. I'd gladly buy cheap tools and finish them to my liking ,,. Regards Alf
Big Help, I got a good catch this morning on a platter/bowl. Seems I took the round nose scraper to far out toward the rim and I'm guessing I dropped the handle as well. Thx for the advice.
Two things: First get rid of the factory handle and put a 2 to 3 foot long handle on for better leverage, less catches. (The factory length handle works alike a teeter totter.) Second, make them negative rake. negative rake scrapers don't like to cut so the chances of catches are dramatically reduced.
I found that if I put a two or three foot long handle on a scraper, it doesn't catch as easily. If I turn it into a negative rake and use it as an abrader, it just plain works. I have to get desperate to use a scraper though.
If you use a scraper to make a shear cut like a gouge there will be much less chatter on thin turnings. Enjoy your videos.....always lern something....especially the fundamentals.
The one off the grinder is courser and therefor tends to break off. The brr raised by a carbide rod or hone is smaller and smoother and therefor does not break as easily.
Just to reinforce your comment about harmonics if you scrape near the rim. I tried to use a conventional scraper to remove a defect near the top of a nice 10-inch maple bowl. I ignored the howling sound, the bowl shattered, and a sharp chunk gouged a two-inch hole in the wall of my shop. I wasn't in the line of fire and I was wearing a full face shield. But that was still pretty unnerving.
I assume the Harbor Freight scrapers lose their burr quicker the the higher quality scrapers. Have you noticed a big difference? Someone with a limited budget, like myself, might be OK with sharpening more often to save $. Are the name brand scrapers worth the extra $, in you view? Looking forward to more videos on this subject. Thanks for posting. :o)
+Gil Grace Not sure if there is an easy answer. I think it goes back to your budget, how often and what you turn, and of course what you value. I seem to do fine with M2 scrapers. I may have to decide which scrapers gets the most use and try a high end replacement to see what I may be missing. Or not.🙄
You are moving across the face much too fast....a better surface moving much slower. How fast are you spinning... 850? 900? Huh???...dust?... yes dust is like sanding to get a smooth finish...think about that one again.
Here is followup video I did on negative Rake scrapers czcams.com/video/9Hai4ia7UX0/video.html
I just unpacked my lathe after a 12 year break and jumped right back into bowl turning. I had forgotten how bad of a catch you can get with a scraper. I was reminded of it rather dramatically as soon as I tried lol🤯
Thanks for a great presentation. This has advanced my scraper ability by a mile.
Great to hear!
I never use a gouge and always end with a smooth finish...sharp scrapers and move slowly.
Turners make turning more difficult than it really is.
Agreed...very light pressure.
Great tips on using scrapers....things I did not know and now understand my mistakes. Thanks!!!
A scraper can fix a lot of problems if used correclty. Watch the video on negative rake scrapers.
Great instruction Mike. I should have watched this before scraping the inside of a black locust bowl. I had quite a nasty catch.
Thank you for a great video something else I have learnt as a new turner these videos help me so much
Regards
Steve UK London
Good to hear, Steve. I have visited your great city several times.
Thank you very much for the detailed info. for this 66 year old new turner.... Your videos have always been helpful to me for getting my techniques down.....
Glad I could help, Randy. The American Assciation has some great resources on their website for novice turners. Click here to explore www.woodturner.org/?page=LearningTracksLP
Very nice Mike. Great tips!
Glad you liked it!
Thanks Mike. Never knew about flattening the tool.
Very much looking forward to your upcoming videos on negative rake and sheer scraping..
Great explanation on these scrapers, thank you!
Hi M. Mike. Now I know why I had explosions on some bowls ;-) Thanks for sharing. Marc
I added your Amazon link to my bookmarks toolbar so when I go to Amazon, I automatically am repaying you for all the good tips. Thanks again for all your effort to spread the knowledge.
Kenny Boothe , thank you for your support!
Thank you so much for your help with negative rack scraping. I was quite impressed with your use with a skew, that to me seemed to be better than any of the scraper that you used. I have to say at this conjuncture that I'm more than a beginner in so far as I have hardly used my lathe of tools due to a long term illness, but I'm getting better now. So, the majority of my knowledge has been gratefully received from the likes of your good self and other 'class' woodturners, thank you again Mike,
5 Stars. John A J Oakes.
As per Marc below, Just this week I had a bowl 'Pop'. I was sooo annoyed. The bowl was done and just the last finishing touch...Hopefully people will learn before the event thanks to you. One of the first things an Ol boy at my local club said was sand the edges of your tool. Am now anticipating your video on negative rake scrapers.
Great video, Mike! I received left and right Hurricane bowel scrapers for Christmas and since it's getting warm enough in my unheated Ohio pole barn shop, I referred to your video for the first grinding on them.
Sounds great!
Thanks for the tips Mike. My bowl scraping hasn’t been as good as I hoped, after watching this I now know why. Wishing tou a Happy New Year and looking forward to many more great videos.
Learned a lot. Thanks
Excellent tips on scraping. In Stuart Batty's class that I attended he demonstrated how to use the burr that you describe to create a surface that required almost no sanding. But he also says that that burr typically lasts less than 1 minute.
+Ed Hekman Maybe he is using better steel. When I had a class with him 10 years ago it was only 30 sec,😂
Mike Peace Woodturning I think your results are consistent with his. His tools are CPM 10V steel but I think he was referring to the M2 tools that the students brought to the class.
Another great tip video Mike,you and yours have a Great New Year👌👌👌👌👌👌
Thanks for the tips, Mike. I'm a new turner and have only used carbides up to now. But, I have the 7-piece Benjamin's Best plus the BB two-piece half-round scraper set that I'm ready to use.
If you have a grinder or some other way to sharpen, sounds like you are set. Taking a class or getting lessons is always a good idea.
Hi Mike , I think if tool manufacturers were to spend more time making finishing touches on tools @3:29 they would put the cost on to the customers ,,. I'd gladly buy cheap tools and finish them to my liking ,,. Regards Alf
Great point
Good video, Mike!
Big Help, I got a good catch this morning on a platter/bowl. Seems I took the round nose scraper to far out toward the rim and I'm guessing I dropped the handle as well. Thx for the advice.
Oh no!
Two things: First get rid of the factory handle and put a 2 to 3 foot long handle on for better leverage, less catches. (The factory length handle works alike a teeter totter.) Second, make them negative rake. negative rake scrapers don't like to cut so the chances of catches are dramatically reduced.
I agree. Thanks for sharing.
What are the advantages and disadvantages of different angles for scrapers?
There is no magic number. You migh want to watch my video on negative rake scrapers czcams.com/video/9Hai4ia7UX0/video.html
My large round rake scrapper produces dust.
I found that if I put a two or three foot long handle on a scraper, it doesn't catch as easily. If I turn it into a negative rake and use it as an abrader, it just plain works. I have to get desperate to use a scraper though.
I love my negative rake scrapers. Beautiful finish on the top of an end grain box.
If you use a scraper to make a shear cut like a gouge there will be much less chatter on thin turnings. Enjoy your videos.....always lern something....especially the fundamentals.
Why is the burr raised by the diamond card stronger and finer than that achieved on the grinder?
The one off the grinder is courser and therefor tends to break off. The brr raised by a carbide rod or hone is smaller and smoother and therefor does not break as easily.
Just to reinforce your comment about harmonics if you scrape near the rim. I tried to use a conventional scraper to remove a defect near the top of a nice 10-inch maple bowl. I ignored the howling sound, the bowl shattered, and a sharp chunk gouged a two-inch hole in the wall of my shop. I wasn't in the line of fire and I was wearing a full face shield. But that was still pretty unnerving.
David Kuhns Yep. Been there, done that!
I assume the Harbor Freight scrapers lose their burr quicker the the higher quality scrapers. Have you noticed a big difference? Someone with a limited budget, like myself, might be OK with sharpening more often to save $. Are the name brand scrapers worth the extra $, in you view? Looking forward to more videos on this subject. Thanks for posting. :o)
+Gil Grace Not sure if there is an easy answer. I think it goes back to your budget, how often and what you turn, and of course what you value. I seem to do fine with M2 scrapers. I may have to decide which scrapers gets the most use and try a high end replacement to see what I may be missing. Or not.🙄
What do you use on the outer portion of the bowl?
Watch this czcams.com/video/eMWDCl_oxZM/video.html
Mike at 13:50 it looks like that is a negative rake scraper?
+Don Lyons Good eye. Almost all my scrapers are negative rake.
While gently using m
I think the gentle touch Richard Raffan demonstrates takes a while to master.
You are moving across the face much too fast....a better surface moving much slower.
How fast are you spinning... 850? 900?
Huh???...dust?... yes dust is like sanding to get a smooth finish...think about that one again.
I was looking for a how to scrape a marijuana bowl😶
Please avoid working in your shop when you may have impaired judgment or reflexes, LOL.