Weapon like scraper that saves the day
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- čas přidán 14. 07. 2024
- One of the best tools I have ever learned to use as it pull me out of so many difficult situations, where grain and wood just doesn't wanna coaporate....
its not easy tool to use so give it some respect and be aware of how you approch to the wood as remember its still standard scraper.
disclaimer Methods that are shown works great for me and they are not only methods out there, if you find this or any other method not comfortble,please use some other way.
Enjoy
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disclaimer Methods that are shown works great for me and they are not only methods out there, if you find this or any other method not comfortble,please use some other way.
Thank you and enjoy - Jak na to + styl
Another great lesson. Can you prepare a video to help married men explain to their wife that they “need” another tool!
"need" Ha ha! I hear you brother. Good luck. 🙃
😂😂 I guess what works great is if you first buy her something then its little less painfull to ask for a tool😉 thanks for making me laugh sir and for watching
Tell her you need it to make her something extra special, and then do it!!!😂
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This is what I do………. When my wife asks me to make anything……… My response……I can honey……but I will need a tool that I don’t have……. (works every time)
Masterclass! Thanks a lot! Priceless demonstration on many levels. You rock!
Thanks Boris🤗
This is the first time I have ever seen this tool demonstrated! THANK YOU!!
Now I have another tool in my arsenal!!
Glad to help out ☺️
I'm planning to start woodturning from scratch in Turkey on my own and your videos here make me feel like I have a tutor with me whenever I need. I'm someone with ADHD, 32 years old. I'm not able to focus on anything, but able to HYPERFOCUS on everything I want to do. That's why I think woodturning is a good fit for me. If you have any advices, that would be fantastic. I'm really glad for your clear, in detail explanations. You really want to help people to achieve this craft obviously. You could do fancy shorts videos like "I'm turning 812312 pencils and epoxy, OH THERE WAS NEARLY A BIG FIRE" etc, you know. I have a deep respect for people like you, who likes to share the knowledge with the others. In Turkey, the young people is trying to avoid these kind of work, because they are nasty. They'd like to work in offices, as designers, developers etc. I find these works really fascinating because you are very close to nature and our roots. We were carving the wood for ages, now we have motors. So it's a great combination. Woodturning can be one of the most beneficial, productive and humane craft since the industrial revolution and unfortunately in Turkey, it seems no one even knows it. There are any groups, any tutors or schools. People only make ugly desks with solid metal feet and trying to sell them online with a "NATURAL WOOD" tag. Poor economy, bad education and here we are.
I think that'll be really hard but I will do it anyway. That's why, I sincerely thank you for being a person like this dear Tomislav. Best regards.
Hello hi
Unfourtually that is similar situation here in Croatia, but you have unique opportunity to be the first of this kind in Turkey,much like I'm first in Croatia, by first I mean those who pass on what I know.
A lot of old masters don't wanna share the knowledge,but I was lucky to learn woodworking from 4 of them.
Find your path and remember through sharing you will grow even more.
It won't be easy and you'll make hundreds of mistakes but those are good .
You need mistakes.
Just take your time, start with small stuff like turning eggs,or honey dipper.
After dosent of those move up to more difficult stuff .
Turning is not difficult, it get easier if you do repetive work, its just a lot of practice so don't take it personal and quite if its not going.
Just be persistent.
If you will have questions,feel free to contact me.
I wish you all the luck.
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning Thank you for this long reply. Actually I have a lot of questions but first I will try to find answers myself since I know everyone is too busy. Now I'm creating a base by watching your videos and taking notes. I will buy a lethe next month and that will be a local made, 100% iron cast one. In Turkey, now we only able to buy JET lethes but they are quite expensive and too small when you compare to locals. And I don't think the digital control panel and other fancy specs are not that important for someone like me. You mentioned that you've used tools that you can find at the beginning. That's why, I think buying something looking old and rusty will work for me better. Because I can restorate it nicely and it has a brand new motor (the motor is a local brand too, and it's a really well brand in it's domain). And when you have a problem with your lethe, guarantee and support processes are not working well in Turkey too, so buying a local, simple, mechanic lethe will make it easier. Because when you have a problem with motor, you can fix it with a local motor master. If I buy a lethe from JET, that process will be really hard. Because in general, brands are tend to say "It's a personal problem, you need to pay this much dollars and wait for X days for importing that piece".
I'm planning to spend minimum 8 hours a day for practice on lethe. And since the wood is very expensive in Turkey too, I will use pallets and recycle them in the beginning. I'm also considering to buy a mechanical hydrolic press (they are cheap) and collect saw dust from locals and turn them into a kind of MDF, I bet you know that process. Watched some CZcamsrs and they were able to make recycled pots etc from only sawdust. Some of them using paper too. So the learning materials will be considerably cheap for me, I hope.
I was wondering which blades I need to start with but I think your Crown branded toolkit will work great, so I will try to buy them online and I hope they will serve nicely and be my arsenal. And before even the first attemp I'll surely have a good solid protective mask.
The only big question for me now is how to treat to wood at its different times. Like I don't know how to detect the water inside of it and I heard that it will lose it's shape after turning some time later by losing it's water inside. But I think that's a matter of experience for now and since I'm planning to start with pallets that won't be a problem for me.
That's it for now. I think the rest is working hard with your hands. Spending 10.000 hours at least to be able to say I know some woodturning. And as a person plays fingerstyle acoustic guitar with an 32 years old handmade guitar for more than 10 years, I think woodturning is MUCH MORE generous than music. You're rolling a wood and it's turning to a bowl. Actually quite simple. The details make it harder and my brain is a detail addict, thanks to ADHD but the ordinary people actually don't care that much. That means I hope I can start selling my stuff in a short period of time and use that money to buy some beautiful wood.
Lastly, I'm considering to buy a bicycle and walk in forests to find some garbage wood here in Turkey as well.
Thank you very much for your long reply. Actually you could create a "Circle" by using an online SaaS product named Circle and maybe create a paid community there for this kind of people like me online. Because we really don't need fancy woodworking videos but specific answers, just like you share here. Knowledge is the most expensive thing in the world and I think who wants to learn woodturning with you in a good community can give some monthly support to you. If you would like to make things like that I can help to you, too. I can share my Telegram ID with you, if you wish.
Best regards.
“another tool in your arsenal to get the surface you want before sanding”. I had a piece of tool steel just the right size for making one of these. Completed yesterday and put it to use. Thanks for motivating me to make this tool!
Glad to hear that and enjoy using it.... Thank you for watching
Excellent video - thank you
It's always a pleasure to watch your videos. The attention to detail that you show is extremely helpful and will be very helpful in preventing people like myself from having issues when we try these techniques.
Glad to hear that and honored to be able to help out ☺️
Thank you as always for support and watching
Very good explanation. I enjoy all your videos. I have learned a lot.
Thank you soo much 🤗
This is the best tip.
I will make it and process it too.
Thanks Tomislav that explains a lot about this tool. Thanks for all your help.
No problem, thanks for watching
That is some great teaching. Thanks for sharing
Very helpful , thank you Tomyslav 👍
I’ve had a Raffan Spear Point Scraper for years and never really knew its film potential until now. Thank you very much! Your YT career is just beginning and you are already at the top of the heap!
Thank you very much 🤗
Out of the way too many tools I have, I really don't have one of those but will soon. Thanks for sharing.
Hee hee! Just got to, eh?
Always one tool away from greatness!@@johnmitchell1614
Thank you
Your videos are so instructive,thank you,thank you. Please keep doing these as newbies like myself need this. You are a born teacher.
Thank you sir , appriciate that very much 🤗
The usual first class and very thorough tuturioal based on hard earned professional experience.. Money cannot buy the learning curve issues that people like you, Richard Raffan, Steve Jones (alien skew master) save us all from. Thank you. I have a carter and sons spesar point scraper and apart from the usual Rolls Royce quality quality tools yuou get from Carter & sons, sometimes it is the only tool for certain jobs.
Indeed ,they make top notch tools and hopefully I'll get my hands on few of there scrapers
Thanks for the demonstration, Tomislav. 😊
so helpful you are a gifted teacher Tomislav!
Thank you, trying my best😀
I have a “Henry Taylor” version of this, used it for quite a few years, it’s a great tool in the right circumstances. Thanks for the video.
Indeeed, thank you very much
Great video! Excellent instruction. I hope your viewers are paying attention to how you sharpen your scrapers: use a hone; not a grinder! Also, note how small the burr actually is.
Indeed ,size of burr is like fingernails,the longer they are the more brithly they are however I usually grind the burr,then once that burr is gone I would use burnisher to get a hook and then use hone , and then again grinder .....
Thanks for the great lesson Tomislav.
What an outstanding tutorial! I t amazes me how well you express yourself using not your primary language. Finding the right words😮
Thank you Robert, I still have to work on that and improve, but I'll get there ☺️
You're already there man!@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning
Beautiful demonstration with excellent results. Thanks for the video!
Thank you Joris
Very much enjoy your video's, This gives me the impression of a hybrid Scraper/Skew. Thanks I will try and make one out of an old rasp I have (flat one side rounded on the other), I will let you know how I get on. Thanks for waking up the wood turner in me.
Another good lesson....now if I can only remember it al!
Very nice Great information.
Very good video❤ love your work.
Ah toda madre. Gracias.
Wow! The quality of your videos - both resolution and camera angles - is simply amazing. Lots of people talk about technique, but you really show great close-ups so that we can see exactly what is going on! Thank you!
One question: you briefly mentioned using a burnishing tool to raise a new burr. I have done that using the round shank of a screwdriver, with inconsistent results. What burnishing tool do you use? Thank you.
Thank you Tom,really appriciate that sir...
I used screw driver for years and it does the job but burnisher is better... Here is link to my video on making one
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Thank you Tomislav, another great instructional video! Yes, lost a lot of sleep over finish cuts on birch and larch. And spalted birch is just too much. I don't know if you can do anything with it, except maybe stabilizing it with shelack or resin. But anyways, thanks for this video, have been watching also Mike explaining this video and this tops it up superbly.
Back to turning :)
Thank you very much 🤗
I've never come across a scraper like one. As you say definitely not for the faint hearted 🤣. Great demonstration and keep up the excellent videos Thank you
Thank you very much
Best demo of using a spearpoint scraper that I've seen, albeit that in the main you're saying cut don't scrape these sorts of wood. My question concerns the inside of such bowls. Same advice cut don't scrape but what if you've been unable to avoid some tear out in the end grain and you can't sand it out because of some feature in the wood, let's say a knot or similar. if you were to try and sand the tear out section you'd end up with a raised hard wood section - the knot - and sanded out soft wood around it. Let's say this knot or similar is an aesthetic feature you want to keep, how would you proceed to get the best surface possible?
Thank you Ray, its a great question and not easy to answer, that is why I'm proponent of knowing a lot of way to get the best cut...
Try scraper on the side, negative rake scraper on the side, using spindle gouge to cut the rim, card scraper, even making one from hacksaw blade to get a better angle, and maybe finally spot sanding...since it has a knot probably little valley won't harm ...
Hopefully that helps and its sort of thing ,one May work on perticular bowl where on other one it won't...so its good to know a lot of ways to smooth the surface
Great video and explanation of that scrapers use and technique. Very timely too, I just ordered one today. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us!
Thank You for watching and support what I do 🤗
Hello SJG, I've tried to find a spearpoint scraper supplier here in the UK, but can't find any. Where did you find yours? Best regards.
@@johnmitchell1614 order square end scraper,and grind to spear point shape that you like ... Crown should have dedicated spear point scraper but not sure where to buy
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning Yeah thanks Tomislav, i emailed Crown in Sheffield this morning, but I won't hold out much hope of obtaining one from them directly. I don't think they deal directly with the public, but we'll see. I don't want to ruin a tool by cutting and grinding one, so I'm willing to buy one made by people with the machinery for the job. Nice informative video on a tool that I have been missing out on for years. Best regards.
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning Hi Tomislav, I managed to get a 1" spearpoint directly from Crown in Sheffield. It's got nice rounded edges for sliding on the rest, and it was a good price at £45 all in. Took a couple of weeks to come from England up to here in Bonny Scotland.
Best regards. 🙃
Not having used a spear point scraper, it seems that. You could use it in place of a shear scraper (?)
For sure, but shear scraper is easier to use
Je suis français et je suis toutes vos vidéos depuis déjà longtemps. C’est juste parfait, quelle belle découverte un vrai bonheur de vous voir aussi calme et avec des explications claires et précises…….tout est magnifique.
Un régal de regarder toutes vos vidéos si instructives
Chapeau bas…
Thank you soo very much for kind words 🤗
Thank you
Very informative and useful as i have inherited a couple of spearpoint scrapers and was not sure how or when to use. I have also got different sizes of diamond or diamond point scrapers do you have a vid on these somewhere? Again I'm lacking knowledge of when and how to use. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Ray for watching and comment, I don't have video on Diamond scraper as I don't use those any more, I might do a video on different ways how to cut a tenon and then I'll show that scraper in action.....
your a very good teacher. thank you for sharing your knowledge! could i try a sort of a bevelriding pushcut with the tool pointed downward to refine the bead. sort of using the tool like a skew?
Thank you very much, you mean to make a video on push cut? Shear cut with gouges?
yes that would be great.
Great video, but I noticed that your rest is quite far from the wood. Is there a reason for that?
Its difficult to use spear point if the tool rest is really close. Just a personal preference
Hi Mr TT, i made one of these from a cheap Benjamins Best 1" skew. Do you ever create a secondary bevel (negative rake)?
Hi, I haven't put second bevel,but you can try, it should do the same job, only in this case that second bevel won't get you away from catches as this tool works at different angles rather then flat on tool rest
I am wondering why you put such an acute bevel on your scrapers, while normaly scrapers come with an bevel angle of somewhere between 70 to 80 degrees. As you cut only with the burr, how is the bevel angle influencing the cut anyway? Or is it just for getting into those tight corners?
Good question, usually like you said scrapers have blunt angles , but those can get in the way in many situations, the use of that bevel is easier in terms of grabing as the scraper is more "frendly" however I usually roll a hook on most of my scrapers and having around 45 deegres gives hook its sharpness .... And its easier to hone or roll the hook or burr
Thanks Tommi, an excellent demonstration. I’ve never seen this tool before so thanks.
Is the angle of 45degrees critical, this is much different to std scrapers at about 70 degrees.
I’m not using my negative rake scraper now . I’m only sharpening it on the back face, over time the top bevel will disappear. Do I need to increase angle of bevel to more than 70 degrees.
Thanks very much Tommi.
Having 70 degrees makes scraper little more frendly,not so brabby but I also find that the burr or as I like to roll a hook on edge is not as sharp as with around 45 deegres..... Give it a try and hopefully you'll see a bit of differents....
Thank you very much for watching and support what I do
Hi Tomislav, this is a very interesting video. On this tool the top surface is flat. I wonder how or if it would perform differently if you put a hollow ground into the top like the tools you demonstrated last week? Keeping the spear and bevel angles the same as you have them here, what would the hollow ground do? Why would you choose a flat vs. hollow ground if given the choice? Thanks!!
That is great question, the problem with hollow on scraper or tool thats going to be used as one is that now that hollow on top changes that negative rake angle, so my guess would be if I use it flat on tool rest like any other flat top scraper it will catch or at least chatter a bit...it would not be plessent.... With hollow on top you would be able to use it as a shear scraper but it difficult to get a burr on flute ,or remove one....
So I think on cross grain work it would not benefith much since already this tool as it is works like a charm....
Not sure If I helped or not😀
Not a lot of room for error in those corners! Recently bought a scraper to grind into this profile but the stock is so thick i realize it may make getting into those corners even more difficult? Maybe make the grind angle longer? anyway Great video and thanks!!!!!
It should still work if its thicker, the downside would be that thicker tools are heavier and little less enjoyable to manipulate on the outside
What grit is your CBN wheel?
Its b91 code and manufacturer says its 100 grit but on other sites they state its 180 grit....
Why do you remove the old burr prior to sharpening?
I find that its much more quallity burr if you remove old one, you don't have to do it but it works little better
Будь здоров! Thank you for lesson. Please tell me where to buy lathe in Europe? And what kind of lathe? About 1300-1500euro.Thank you.😊
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There are stores like Steinert, and Neureiter,both you'll find link in my video description.... Depends where you are in Europe one or the other might be closer
Dear Tomislav, do you have an idea where to get this spear scraper in Germany ? All the dealers you have on your Website they don t offer spear scrapers.
And I habe googled it 😊.
Regard Djamil
I think most won't have it Djamil, I got square end scraper and then cut the wings off with angle grinder.... Or you can take time and grind them off on the grinder it self.... Thank you sir for watching
Did you "make" that tool, or did you get it from Crown? I'm unable to find a Crown Cryo Spear Point Scraper online (in the US). I wouldn't be surprised to find that US government numbskulls have classified it as a "weapon". 😄
Nope I Think they dont have spear point scraper,this one was square end which I convert by cutting with angle grinder two angle wings....
It is though, if used wrongly.
In Canada Henry Taylor has one sold through Lee Valley (sell in the USA)
@@alainnoel2198 Henry taylor makes great tools, so grab if you can
58B0420 is the item number at Lee Valley for a Raffan Spearpoint Scraper, around 85$ canadian. I recently got one: one inch wide