The Biggest Plot Twist of Delicious In Dungeon (... So Far)
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- čas přidán 22. 06. 2024
- A deeper look into a few lines of dialogue that may or may not be important. If the Dungeon truly seems to shape itself based on the desires of those inside of it, could that help us piece together some of the biggest unresolved mysteries of Dungeon Meshi?
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hello i am a bozo and was reminded that gold-stripping is, in fact, canonically brought up a couple times in the series and was definitely not an illusion.
… but it *was* fun to speculate that it was right guys LOL
Yes, these dwarves found all the gold according to the main character.... but non of them ever made it out of the dungeon.
A dungeon that creates objects through magic based on desire doesnt make the objects any less 'real'.
During the golden country episode, Yadd said that he recalled Delgal constantly blaming himself for how Thistle have gone mad from dark magic and Laios also speculate that the reason to why Thistle is so defensive with intruders was also because of the trauma when the previous king died in the shapeshifting one. I think that the parallel is definitely there
youre on the right track here but i have one small correction: the pillars actually were made of gold at one time. if you remember laios says that he and his sister first joined a gold peeling crew when they first came to the island. the dungeon used to be full of gold, even on the upper floors, but over time less of it could be found as adventures filled their pockets with it. so now they must venture deeper and deeper into the dungeon in order to find it still, tempting adventures further in.
They weren't made of gold, they were gold plated. A thin facade, like he said.
@@slawking8048 yea thats what i meant, hence why they could be peeled
Gilded
Man, you are going to have SO much fun analyzing season 2.
When I see people speculate where Dungeon Meshi is going, "I don't think you can even imagine it." From the Elden Ring reveal trailer plays in my head.
I'm a manga reader and I'm *cackling* about your thoughts
I binge read the manga and but i didn't notice several of the stuff at the time, they just flew over my head, but watching the anime i have been constantly slapping in the face with the foreshadowing from basically the start
Boy this serie is good
Man, your speculations are so wild :D You're gonna love season 2
For real, I was going HMMMM 👀
Can’t wait for everyone to go nuts over season 2, it’s so ambitious as a plot line but because of all the worldbuilding and foreshadowing it fits in so nicely!!
As an anime-only who carelessly ignored warnings, I've had two major plot points from later in the story spoiled already. However, i think Marcille's repeated expressed desire to have stronger magic, and even blatantly getting a hold of Thistle's book in the dream in episode 19 does draw a strong parallel between them.
It's funny that so far, there really hasn't been any throwaway background details. They've seemed to pay off later down the line. This is such a carefully crafted story and I know season two won't disappoint.
Keep up the awesome content. I've been curious about our resident baby-faced sourpuss Chilchuck. For as much as we've learned from the other party members, he's had the least details of his past revealed--aside from the bombshell that he's actually middle-aged and has a family, but not much more than that. In the absence of the manga filling in small details here and there, all we can say about him is what we can infer from the limited information we do have.
The best part of this series is that knowing what happens only intensifies your curiosity for what’s to come, if you’re that sort of person. It’s truly a series where the journey is worth more than the destination. Sorry you got spoiled though!
@@grapeicies That's exactly my outlook on it. Despite that foreknowledge, I'm just as excited to see how it plays out.
I don't think we ever learn much more about Chil. He's a pretty simple guy. We do discover his taste in women, looking forward to that episode.
using a food allegory for an intro is a stroke of genius, great writing! I particularly appreciate your observation of the early floor plant monster luring prey with sweetness and how it can be seen as a parallel to the dungeon - that's a genius observation! Your dungeon meshi videos are always excellently written and highly enjoyable, can't wait for the next.
As a manga reader I wish I could tell you how close or far off your theorizing was. All I will say is buckle up for season two. Its gonna have a crazy plot twist.
gotta love a reading comprehension-full analysis. at this point i was not catching any of it! was along for the ride like a peace of plankton out in the sea! sure did get caught unaware by the plot whale!! ok that analogy is getting away from me. but yeah those marcille plot machinations Did Not register
Your thoughts are always so interesting! I love hearing from people as they go through a series I already finished - that's part of why reactions are fun in general - but I rarely get to hear really detailed theorizing like this and it's really fun! You have some great insights and I look forward to more from you as we go.
Your videos are always incredibly well thought out and honestly I completely agree with explaining the parties luck with the way the dungeon response to desires because it makes a lot of sense.
Our main heroes are skilled but they are also insanely lucky, and I just love how the author is able to get away with it with clever explanations.
Me, a manga reader: *chuckles maniacally from the shadows*
Yeah you are going to love season two
Imo dungeon meshi is pretty spiritually similar to fullmetal alchemist as a series, in terms of the scope of it getting a lot more ambicious than it inicially seems when it starts off. Also being incredibly well built
Kabru, man. KABRU! Do Kabru pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease.
I see you’ve been Cooking real good again 👀
When I saw the first episode I was like "Okay, it's a generic ass premise, I guess the show is more about characters and not unique storytelling". Oh boy I couldn't be more wrong...
Despite already knowing what’s going to happen - or maybe *because* I do? - I‘ve really enjoyed your theory videos. While I wont comment on whether you’re right about any of it, I will say I’ve yet to hear you say anything like, egregiously off the wall, because all of your theories come from actually paying attention!! I’ve seen some people be frustratingly obtuse about clear themes or get too bogged down in genre conventions, but you are out here actually enjoying Ryoko Kui’s absolute feast and talking about all the flavors and textures. These characters are so so so rich and the more you dig into them the better they get. And hopefully it's not too spoilery to say that keeping character parallels in mind will be extremely rewarding as the narrative progresses.
Oh man... you stepped right on the ending of the story and... walked right past it! 🤣
Your area soooooooo freaking close too! I can't wait to blow your mind with season 2! 😆
It’s so interesting how they compared the dungeon to a living organism early in the show and we’re getting a lot more of that now
I love your speculation! Season 2 will be right up your alley
As someone who has finished the manga, there are more unexpected plot twist ahead.
You are absolutely right about the premise, and you don’t truly realize how right you are yet.
You’re gonna love season 2!
I would love an analysis on Falin!
She's my third favorite,,
I'd like to hear about your thoughts on her relationships with everyone before and after being under the control of Thistle
(Note how she didn't kill Laios, Marcille, Chilchuck, Senshi and Shuro -wink-)
And maybe some thoughts on how her biology works now as a chimera
Keep cooking man!
Keep spitting king
what i can say is you're cooking man
Remember, Laios loves chimeras.
As a manga reader honestly this anime has really captured the underlying world that this is set in so well and your observations are fairly on track
Great video, love to see anime only theories and speculation on dungeon meshi! What music was playing, it sounds so familiar?
Season 2 can't come fast enough ^_^
S2 ia gonna be so hype y'all. (I'm so excited to see more of my man Kabru)
Something that confuses me is how Senshi predicted that the dungeon would become more dangerous towards Laios' party. He said that the dungeon would respond to their desires by bearing its fangs. But, it seems like the dungeon is actually helping adventurers by giving them safe rooms and water rooms. How is that dangerous? Why would a dangerous dungeon be materializing safe and clean water for them?
I guess it’s not much of a sport for the dungeon if adventurers die from dysentery or smthg. I imagine it as a cat that enjoys playing with its food, it’s more exciting to chase a healthy rat that’ll put everything it has into surviving as opposed to a sickly one
its stopping them from retreating. when they got turned by the changelings the dungeon layout shifted and stopped them from getting changed back right away, then they found the door they were looking for to begin with and had no choice but to go through it. when they were trying to go back to the surface after their confrontation with the mad mage they got lost, but as soon as they decided to continue on after seeing what happened to falin, they found the way down immediately. the dungeon only helps them when it brings them down deeper
The answer is SPOILERS. Like there'll literally be entire chapters explaining this
Oh boy another essay!
i'd like to see you make an analisys video on laios as a character! ive noticed you kinda underestimated his inteligence and doubted his compassion for his relationships in some episodes, as im sure someone has pointed out already, laios' inteligence stats are second highest in the adventures bible and i was wondering if your opinion has changed after reading the manga as well as having finished season 1 :)
there is a lion face visible in the trees on the scene where theyre all on the ground after arriving in the golden country 3:14
Fun (spoiler-free) Thistle Facts:
1. Since we saw Delgal and Thistle playing as children, you can do the math to determine that Thistle was still the elven equivalent of a teenager by the time the immortality curse came into play. Him being frozen halfway through puberty gives a lot of context to his mental state.
2. You may have already inferred this since Thistle is the only elf we see in the Golden Kingdom and supposedly "grew up alongside Prince Delgal as a brother," but he was basically adopted by the king. (Makes his reaction to the king's death in the paintings more tragic. Poor kid saw his dad die in front of him.)
You should really give Frieren a try. It's themes about time and relationships. Might be right up your alley.
Great video!
Interesting idea!
I'm so scared for Senshi because the writer knows all the video game lore & I'm afraid we're going to have a #GodOfWar:Ragnarok moment! We're Brock doesn't want to be brought back... #Senshi #DeliciousInDungeon
Do a closer look video on Chilchuck! Now that he's mentioned he has a wife he's separated from and multiple daughters it's fun to look back at all his interactions with Izutsumi and Marcille. Dad-chuck Dad-chuck Dad-chuck
I meant what music is playing around 6:30 bc it sounds so familiar
Chrono Trigger ~ Schala’s Theme 🙏🏻
@@dmgurei omg thank you so much for the quick response!!
Your ability to predict future plot points is unerving.
The less we manga readers spoil him, the better. It's a joy watching him figure things out.
It's funny how this title is very much European fantasy at glance (dragons, magicians 'n shieeet) but under that facade it's yet again a buddhist philosophy about being free from desires.
So spoiler sorta but everything in the dungeon is delicious to something, even desires.
Everything is... Delicious in Dungeon...