My wife moved out when I was chasing the High Warlord title, would have divorced me if I kept at it. My life was literally work, PVP, and maybe 5 hours a sleep per night, for months. WoW didn't seem important anymore when she was gone, so we reconciled. We are happily married 10 years later. Hell of a grind.
dude i was like 13yrs old when i farmed for that title, i skipped classes and suffered bad grades because of it, got beat by my mom almost every day, she beat my ass with a belt til i bled. i never got to rank 14 but 13... it was totally worth it...until they decided to use same titles in cata rbg, after that i was ready to go kill myself.
Anthony Derome didnt even need to be obsessed, you just played the game normally. i hated pvping all day, i wish i had more time for other shit. even tho i was just a kid, i wanted to achieve something great, like show older guys in my guild that i got some dedication and i can work hard too.
My GM wasn't playing for like 3 months in wrath and he had logged out in storm peaks. When he finally logged back in there was something in his way and he couldn't see around it, so he killed it and it turned out to be the Time-Lost Proto Drake.
Hahahhaha I ran into that thing by pure coincidence. I killed it out of curiosity after aggroing it mid-air and landed to finish it. After I did half of the zone lit me up in chat for stealing their kill. I looked into how rare it was back then and I still laugh about it to this day
I still remember in vanilla you would join an AV, play for hours, log off, go to sleep, go to work, then come home to play, and it would still be the same AV going from the previous day!
Had a guildmate way back when needed plans from the scryers. Except he made a mistake and upped his Aldor rep. Once exalted he realized his mistake. So ... he did it again for the Scryers. I think that to this day, these spiders are still hiding, cowering in fear of him.
I did that after doing Insane in the Membrane pre nerf. Trust me, after Insane, Hero of Shattrah was a walk in the park, only took a few days rather than months. Honestly, after Insane all other grinds seemed like nothing.
Something basically every vanilla player had to do: Grind 1000 gold for the Epic Mount. I remember it taking literal weeks of grinding. And every single player basically had to do it
I remember in Vanilla one person ground up her Stormwind faction rep to Exalted because she played a Gnome and she wanted to ride an actual horse, not some clunky robo-ostrich. The only way to grind rep back then, though, was turning in stacks of linen cloth. Stacks upon stacks upon stacks of linen cloth.
i did that on my Tauren with Orgrimmar so i could ride the Worg instead of a derpy kodo. to this day i can remember the sound of an entire lowby instance dying to whirlwind spam so i could loot their cloth.
+CrimsonSwitch Do you even know where the term "grind" comes from? It comes from the idea that you are a grinder, that grinds mobs to dust, as in killing loads of enemies. Waiting is boring and all, but you are literally not grinding anything at all.
Sir Tobias Eldridge And what does a grinder do when it doesnt have anything to grind? It waits, it waits until it is fed more things to grind, so yes waiting is still a grind.
I remember farming my Time Lost proto drake. I had WoW turned 24/7, NPC scanner turned on, volume on max, screen turned off and waiting for it to spawn for about 2 weeks while I was learning for final exams.
I did numerous 48h ”shifts” farming for rank 14, stopped studying at the university - and when i finally had one week left playing, i didn’t even had to be first, 3rd best would have been enough to rank up. The last week was WSG weekend, multiple new players started that week, many of them made schedules with friends or siblings so that they could play 24/7 - after almost 72 hour straight, with a few minor breaks, I couldn’t stay awake any further, went to bed. Woke up almost 24 hours later, I had lost so much time during that sleep - I finished 7th that week, and in fact, lost some rank. To compensate, I would have to play just as much, but for two weeks now. I couldn’t handle it, and quit.
The pvp system of vanilla wow sure is nothing I feel nostalgia for. Hell only really good thing about vanilla in the long run where the community. Raids and pvp where more superiour in TBC.
Yeah he really undersold how hard it was. The difficulty was because your ranked was based on how well everyone else did. So as other people played more you had to play more. That was the primary reason they dropped it in patch 1.12 or 1.14, can't remember what the last Vanilla patch was.
also, your rank had a certain threshold of how many kills/honor you had to do just to simply keep it from degrading. Holy shit. I remember i was in high school, i would LITERALLY come back home running, opening my pc and start playing like a maniac. I would even let my father play (fortunately he was a wow player too) when i was in school, just to simply collect honor. I managed rank10, i wanted the commander title, rank 11, because you would be able to buy war mounts this way. However, i remember there was this tough week at school, were i had to study for like 3-4 tests. I didnt have much time to play, and guess what happened. my rank, which was almost complete bar to 11, fell back to like 40%. This is when i actually got sick and stopped the grind.
Me2.. it was a bad one though. Imo it was bigger grind than Timbermaw which I did after Wintersaber grind. In timbermaw you kill the furbolgs and turn in the beads. In Wintersaber you need to make 840 or so quests and each of them takes like 10 minutes to complete and return. So quite a lot of downtime when running. I tried to do 1000 rep each day before or after raiding and other necessary stuff.. it took like 2 months at that pace. In the weekends I managed like 3000 / day sometimes. It was tedious to run back and forth the village and the frostsaber rock :) Argent Dawn grind was also painful before you were able to do cauldrons up to Exalted. You could only turn in Scourge Stones.. which meant you had to run 5mans a lot.
They nerfed the requirements considerably after a while. Once they did, it took me only 3 days to go all the way to Exalted. Before the nerf, it would have taken me 4 months or so.
Did that grind back in the day and after learning how much blizz nerfed it i basically quit playing the character I unlocked it on out of sheer rage haha. I wish they would have at least changed the look of it so people who suffered the 2+ month grind got to keep some pride in what they did
Yeah, pretty sure this took me about 4-5 months to get to exalted of 4-5 hours grinding 5 days a week. I miss a good rep grind in wow, shame they aren't about anymore.
Was watching at work with the sound off and subs. The constant "ffffs" and rr=e7473639293 had me wondering wtf he was saying to get those subtitles lol
As someone who was part of a group attempting Rank 14 in vanilla, I personally never got sick of WSG. For us it became sort of like speedrunning. We weren't just mindlessly charging at dudes, we were optimizing our time for the fastest tokens with the most kills per game possible, constantly adjusting strategies, learning when it's more efficient to lose quick rather than win slow, abusing any minor detail we could find (green whelp armor lol) and really just pushing it. For us, WSG was no different to Dota or LoL. Sure, it's one map, but you can spend a looot of time perfecting the game. edit: I should mention that we did not actually GET Rank 14. Efficiency did not beat raw playtime back in vanilla.
LoL yeah I had a similar thing going. And when we would feel like we were getting burned out we ran wsg naked except for weapons and eventually played in our "about town" clothes. Had a tailor make us some fine clothes or purchased some vendor stuff. Was pretty fun beating teams when we decided one day our flag runner had to /walk the entire match.
Hiru you didn't mention that back when the Insane title was NOT nerfed, you had to get Shendralar rep to exalted as well. Which meant grinding librams and pristine black diamonds, which took the longest to complete. Glad that inscription was a thing to make darkmoon cards. And I also don't remember it ever requiring to become exalted with Bloodsail buccaneers
+MiriQL Movies Yeah, I only remember it being honored as well, and I finished my Insane achievement while it still required Shen'dralar reputation; I guess I got lucky when I did it then lol. I don't remember the grind for the Bloodsail rep being that awful, it was the easiest out of the group for myself; Syndicate rep was the second worst, followed by Shen'dralar. Also, as a side note, the librams were unique, so you could only have one of each kind on you at once to turn in, which made you either need a portable mail box / Argent Tournament pet with the pony bridle, or you would end up running back and forth between DM north and your respective faction town in Feralas. The thing about it, was that it was before flying was enabled for Azeroth and you could easily end up entering too many instances, even without the flying.
Oh the goddamn lockboxes farming. I did the Insane title on TWO accounts pre-nerf and the lockbox farming was awful, sending them via mail. storing them in a guild bank... and those librams!!! UGH my server was selling pristine black diamons for 500g a piece and back then it was "Insane" amounts of gold that I wasted just to get this stupid title. The best part was farming the cartel rep back by killing pirates near Ratchet
Two accounts? Damn, I was never that self loathing haha. Once Knot Thimblejack was a thing in DM north, grinding out the rep wasn't nearly so bad, but time consuming as all hell. The other one I was expecting to hear in this list was Hydraxian Waterlords reputation farming. God, that was another awful thing to have to do in classic WoW that only four or five people in your 40 man raid ever cared to do to douse those runes haha.
Maybe she should get it herself? Haha, kidding aside, I could never do that one again, that grind took up quite a bit of valuable time. Although having people pay me to grind lock boxes was a nice bit of income back then.
+Brian Morgan questing in vanilla was fucking garbage aside from a few golden moments that truly shone through the ocean of shit for example the onyxia attunement which was amazing the first time
I liked the long chain ones, Onyxia, Hunter bow, etc. They were immersive for me and were fun for me, sorry you fellas didnt enjoy your experience, Im not saying it was the best quality wise. But terrible , nah not in my opinion
There's one detail you missed about the Time-lost Proto-drake: it shares spawn with another rare spawn (Vyragosa). So if Vyragosa spawns, you have to kill her before the protodrake could (maybe) spawn.
I've never been fond of Warsong Gulsh but Arathi Basin will always be my favorite. It's like a second home. I loved the Eye of the Storms too. I could only play on week-ends at that time and I was a few HV away to get to Master Seargent rank when Blizzard removed the ranked PvP system, I was so pissed. Still I proudly wear my Seargent title today, it's like going around shooting "vanilla character here, make way, kids!" :p
I got Knight-Lieutenant / Blood Guard and it wasnt even a pain... i just played for fun... now that i look back i wish i had played more pvp so i would have a higher rank, after all my rank was the one below the one you needed to be able to buy cosmetic rank 14 gear that was introduced later. -.- So pissed at that... rank 7 from way back in the day and nothing cool to show for it, not even the blue pvp set was given to me (despite actually using it in vanilla)... only a title which can be gotten from RBG easily.
you had to be insane to play vanilla wow and achieve things in the game. late burning crusades to the end of wrath were the glory days where the game didn't require you to give up your job, and family to have fun.
Small correction. They had spell skills in game but they were hidden. In SFK you got a curse debuff that actually reduced random skills by 100. This includes all spell schools.
Just adding couple more. Captured firefly (TBC). 0.07% chance to drop from Bogflare Needlers. Luckily I got this pet when leveling my first character. And one more. Grinding stratholme for Deathcharger's reins. I actually made a lot of money by disenchanting loot from the stratholme runs!
I bought the firefly for 50g back in TBC (guy wanted 200g but I only had 50g), never expected that 1 to become so expensive later on (although it was already soulbound), but never been able to let myself sell it after battle pets/account wide pets
I got Deathcharger before they nerfed the runs. I spent a whole weekend rerunning Strat until it dropped. I also disenchanted loot for $$ at the time. Now Midnight.... sigh. Kara hates me when it comes to mount drop. Tho I do have the Arcanite Ripper from the event back in the day and pull it out every so often and rip the chords.
I still don't understand why people thought the weapon skill grind was so bad, at least in comparison to others. Just stack int and fight the highest level mob you could safely take. Intellect increased the rate at which weapon skills grew (maybe so int wasn't 100% useless for warriors and rogues back then?) High level mobs caused it grow faster.
Number 8 is completely untrue. There were MORE than enough quests to ding max levels, the issue was that blizzard intended you to supplement the gaps with instance quests. If you did all instance/zone quests you would hit 60 with about 2 zones and an instance to spare.
AltF4 Gaming So did i, and i did not have quests to spare. neither did anybody else, Im talking about very early stages of vanilla, following months of the launch.
Both Horde and Alliance I had enough quests to hit 60. Though you had to make sure you kept the chain quests. I am talking pre-DM. Side note I also didn't skip Mobs while questing.
Emperor Shahao reputation from Mists of Pandaria was pretty awful. It was mostly killing elite yaunglol until your fingers hurt all for cosmetic rewards and a mount. I never completed it.
do the mobs in the insane title oneshot you if you don't move perfectly/pull more than 2/not a max geared heroic tank with a healer? No? Than I'm not quite sure that they were that much worse. Doing the rep very late in MoP or even after it is a breeze, when it came out? If you had an empty server and a 5 man group it took 12+ hours, but most of the time the mobs were tagged on spawn. It may take more time, but the killing itself was easy. The shaohao mobs (the ones that were not farmed to zero by people questing) were aids.
In mists, while questing in the hinterlands I got the disgusting oozeling without trying or even knowing of its existence, although they probably increased its drop rate
The "Salty" title is a good honorable mention. Most of it isn't bad but the golden coins can break your will since you can get the same few over and over and "The One That Didn't Get Away" will reduce you to tears with its 0.01% drop rate fish.
Ummm... insane title involved a lot more than just that. Remember how after you ground out Bloodsail rep, you had to get Ravenholdt, Shandralar, Darkmoo Faire and all the Goblin factions to exalted.... sheesh. Bloodsail was the easy part!
That reminds me how annoying raiding in vanilla was when hunters decided to bring a bat pet. For those that don't know or don't remember, at one point bats had only one screech that spammed over and over and over again. My guild banned the use of bats in raids. Perhaps this could somehow make some kind of top 10 :D
I hit rank 10 in about 2-3 months and then went home for Christmas vacation (was in college) and then came back and was at rank 7. At that point I gave up lol. Damn vacation. I should have stayed and missed Christmas with my family! lol
While the honor system was rough to get to the highest level, it also made some of my most favorite memories with friends when we pvp'd together every single day for hours on end. I absolutely loved it, and I miss it.
The weapon skill grind was easy; players would just attack the unkillable mob in the Blasted Lands (they wouldn't die unless you destroyed a particular object). Often times these mobs were kited to Stormwind *because* they were unkillable.
Those last two levels were a right of passage in vanilla WoW. Only thing that could top that would be the grind for your Paladin epic mount. Anybody got an arcanite transmute? www.engadget.com/2007/12/18/the-light-and-how-to-swing-it-the-paladin-epic-mount-quest-for/
+FireGuy1337 Funny enough i did both back in old wow and still found the pally one to be harder although to be fair i did to lock one second so i had more resources at my disposal by that point.
The hardest grind I ever undertook.... there are two, actually. The Timbermaw rep grind in vanilla was insane. There were no turn-ins, no repeatable quests. All rep was gained by killing Timbermaw. I think you got like 2 points per regular Timbermaw and 5 points per boss. There were one or two bosses. The Frostsaber Trainer rep to get the reins of the Winterspring Frostsaber was ridiculous. However, there is an easy, yet expensive, way to get the Frostsaber. On Horde-side, the Frostsaber is the Venomhide Ravasaur from Un'Goro. That one takes 21 easy days to get. So, if you go horde-side, you can easily get the Venomhide and then if you go back to Alliance, you have the Frostsaber. I'll add one other... in vanilla, I wanted a Crimson Whelpling. You get those by grinding whelps in Wetlands. I killed 20K whelps before one finally dropped the Crimson Whelpling.
I was still in school by the time of release. Became one of the first rank 14 players in PvP in europe. That was one hell of a grind. Often playing 16 hours a day. But after achieving the rank, the armor and the weapon (after the buff they were slightly better than molten core gear) playing PvP on my warrior was incredibly funny. Joining AV several healers decided to only heal me, watching me oneshotting most people (most mediocre equipped clothies had less than 2k health). Best memory of WoW.
rank 14 hours per day was understated by miles the majority had to play upto 20 hours a day and would often pay chinese farmers to play anytime they slept
Well, without a premade yes. I had a schedule: 9am to 6am:("ish") for weeks!!! (Ofc with some minor pit-stops) But It completely destroyed my world!! When I looking back at It now I get anxiety... It's just total madness! Never in my life will I do something like that again. Also calculated that WSG gave more HK/h so I was only ruuning WSG...
no I got rank 11, a friend stopped at rank 13, but I was part of premade that had a rotation for rank 14. people would lose gf/stop attending colleague/school or work. I had all 3 and fortunately did not see the benefit to giving them up for rank 14
Me in my newness half expected the "Argent Tournament Dailies" to be here... compared to the stuff in this video, the 30-60 minute daily quest time was/is nothing, especially since I actually enjoy them- except for when the quest to kiss frogs near a lake in Fantasy Canada until a lady gives you a sword takes 30 minutes on its own because of bad RNG.
+MoNt3c0r3 Finally got off my ass and picked up loremaster in Pandaria. Now THAT is a good way to get your money's worth of WoW content, just go and do all the damn quests lol
firedrake110 Have fun :) Loremaster is quite fun, but it takes quite some time .. atleast for me it did because I did it post-cata on a character that was created pre-cata .. so my zones were completely reset, I had do re-do even the zones I previously leveled in >_>
This was such a depressing video about grinding, as if actually it managed to convey the heavy repetitive boredom that comes with all those grinds. Nice work.
58 to 60 was just one insane instance run. Pre-nerf Scholomance, including killing the re-spawns several times. I was the tank. And we needed like 6 hours or so. But we cleared the instance and I leveled up to 60 at about the last boss. Iiirc it was literally after killing the last boss. The second run took a hell lot less time, because I went in green and got out with mostly blue gear. ^_^ Fun times.
Yeah, tanks generally will have the best stories to tell from back then. Scholomance doesn't give me shibbers because it's supposed to be "creepy" but because of how much time I spent in there helping my guild even AFTER I hit lvl 60...lol
I remember the quest gap from 58-60, I had played since a week after launch. I never really had to deal with the mob-kill-grind part, as I was a healing priest that was willing to deal with insane players with much better gear than me (I had blues and greens of mixed use, and was a "Hybrid" 25/26 priest back in those days...I never really raided much till BC, though I think I did get an epic in Vanilla from a PUG Molten Core). I ran dungeon after dungeon, specifically full Strat, Scholomance, and BRD...and I was willing to try to keep everyone alive as best I could. I took Shammy tanks (Enhance Shamans back then, I was Horde, and yes they were insane), groups with multiple INSANE Mages (seriously...I've yet to meet a Mage that WASN'T insane), Drood tanks (before Drood tanks were a thing, and yes, at the time they were insane too), etc. And by golly I kept us alive *most* of the time...at the cost of my own insanity of course. And...um...I was never able to figure out the mechanics of "downranking" spells, so I knew every single spell I had like the back of my hand and relied on timing to do my thing. So when the Downranking nerf happened in the middle of BC, my view point was...."what nerf? Nothing's changed from what I can see." while literally every other healer was screaming bloody murder. (A side note: don't group with multiple insane mages.....they are insane and will try their hardest to juggle ever-increasing numbers of mobs between them in a contest to see who can do the biggest damage among them, and will drag your own sanity kicking and screaming along with wherever they wish to go....it's best you just go along for the ride and not think too hard about it.... And before you ask, yes...I did manage to keep everyone alive 75+ % of the time...though I'm still trying to figure out if I have any PTSD from it or not...scolding them never worked and only seemed to make them try *harder* next time.) I got turned off about a year or so after Cata was launched as all my friends were going off in various directions and couldn't care less whether I came along or not. So I left..... I came back for short time in Legion and was ready to give the Healing Priest a go again, this time hang the previous friends, I'll find some new ones....and then..... I discovered it....."Wait...what? I can't cast a shield as a Holy Priest anymore?" I hadn't known at the time that the classes were completely ripped apart and simplified, and so...well...I leveled to 100 alone as a Shadow Priest, because I could shield myself at least and it was the least ripped apart of the Priest sub-classes. I wanted to be a group healing priest again, but now, if I couldn't use a shield, I didn't know how to play that half of my class anymore. (For those who might be a bit confused, I used the Power Word: Shield as a "pause" on the damage coming in to whoever I was working on, even in some cases, flipping rapidly between targets. It gave me precious time to think, and prioritize, and plan. I knew intimately how much damage it absorbed, how long it would last otherwise, how long the debuff lasted on my target, and how long the cooldown lasted on my hotbar. It literally was my lynch pin in my timing prowess in my ability to keep a group alive. In all honesty....it's what kept me from being a button masher healer.) Now I have to completely re-learn how to play a healing priest and I'm afraid I just don't have the stomach (or time) for it anymore. It's a shame, really....give me just that one freaking spell, and I could jump right in and take literally any changes to healing for my class as a "Holy Priest." I know Disc Priests can still cast Shield, but they are now a "Damage Dealer Healer" and I can't wrap my brain around that, and Shadow Priests are a "Self Preservation Damage Dealer and if you need them to heal, just wipe already" sub class. But, I guess I'm just too old now.
There was more than enough quests to level from 58-60. I can attest to that as levelling a mage, hunter, warrior and paladin in vanilla wow.Also, farmed 6 skyshards in 5 hours just 2 days ago.
you actually missed alot of grinding info on the insane title... Getting exalted with steamwheedle was just the start. After that you needed to pickpocket UBRS for hours and hours. And then you needed to collect books from Diremaul and combine them with other hard to farm stuff, in order to get exalted with Shen'Dralar. After that you needed to get exalted with darkmoon faire. and the only way of doing that back in the day, was by combining cards and make decks. Took me nearly 2 years to get it and it is still the title i wear today :) Nowadays, the Shen'Dralar is removed from the chain and has become a feat of strength. And with the renewed Darkmoon Faire, you only need to do dailies to get exalted. The guards in all the goblin cities are much stronger now though
I remember grinding the corrupted Ashbringer skin in legion. Befor it was nerfed. About 80 straight standing around and nothing happened. I started teaming up with a friendly horde player. We did 12 hour shifts and then switched so other could sleep or something else. Then after 3 weeks of doing that every day i cross realm switched a couple of time while I was waiting just to see if I was lucky. I found the Ooze. But my horde friend couldn't come because he had raid night. Felt really bad for him but the group already attacked. Afterwards I started fishing. For another 30 hourse or so. About 1500 casts in I finally got the crystal. That shit was so goddamn annoying. I'll never grind again.
funny enough, i remember flying trough the time lost protodrake zone and saw him randomly, killed it and when i loot his corpse i got the mount, i had no idea at the time that the mount was such a big deal and rare. And when i told my guild mates they all freaked out and were mad at me for my insane luck
some things to say at the insane title: There was another way to gain both reputations. in the first place you could kill booty bay guards to gain faction for bloodsail buccaneers. the tricky part was that you had to have honored on the buccaneers and exalted with steamweedle at the same time. you killed booty guards for buccaneers but when you killed bucanneers for steamweedle rep you lost faction at the bucaneers. but there where other pirates at the coast of the barrens around lvl 18 that werent bucaneers but still gave reputation for steamweedle. you had to grind those few mobs till you got exalted at steamwheedle again.
Also you forgot WSG exalted. You could (hypothetically) grind for hours or days without getting a single reputation point if your teammates are incompetent. Which, sadly, is often the case.
I'm already exalted with Frostwolf clan, revered with Arathi but I think I'm still honored or friendly with Warsong And I queue for BGs as soon as I could. Me and my brother lvled together and we did a lot of BGs Stopped playing a lot of times, but I play since 2010 :/ I think I'll have Invincible, the phoenix, the white hawkstrider, Aeonaxx and Time Lost proto Drake before I get to exalted with warsong
AB rep was the worst. I used to pvp a lot and had 100k kills at 70. Needed the 10 point ab win/loss achievement for the main title. Was on the losing end of 20 point AB games twice.
The worst thing in this video is the very basic attitude, that something is a GRIND. Especially with rank 14, where the rewards were gear that competed with the most hardcore gear that was available until Naxx. And we know how neigh impossible Naxx was compared to PvP. If you don't look at the "grind" and just play what you enjoy, you don't even notice that it is a grind. PTS from WSG? If i see WSG now, I am wondering if I would stand on the roof or at the tunnel ,as I was mostly defending and chasing. I had FUN there, and since that was my passion, it never got boring. It brought challenges with it, especially when I got better, and started to meet ranked groups with my ranked group. Those were some eopic fights. I didn't even notice, but I simply stopped killing people around the map, and was chasing down unkillable targets. Like 3 times circling the island in AB chasing down one of the best healers on the server, and disabling him off the warrior in his group. It was glorious!
The Ahn Qiraj unique mount given to players who went through the whole rep and quest chains to open the gate. Not just an individual grind, but a server wide grind.... Mal'Ganis, first PVP server to open the gates.
Back in Vanilla pvp, you could only queue for one battleground at the time too; so which ever was the more popular one at the time/day. There were also no battelgroups. Grinding the rank 14 title also 'forced' you to not only play a lot, but also be the top ranked player every week. Missing the top spot for any given week would severely set you back.
Cant belive u didnt mention the Vile of the Sands. Its rng inside of rng inside of even more rng. First you gotta hope the Dig Site is in the zone from Cata, Then u gotta hope the artifact ur making is a jar, AND THEN & only then do you have to pray to RN-Jesus that whats in the jar is the recp.
The only time it has ever gone that low was during the late MoP early WoD time when duplicating was absolutely rampant. During cata it went for around 40k on high pop servers and 60-70k on lower pop servers.
Not nearly as bad as any of the grinds on your list, but I remember back in Classic, when mounts were the costly item and riding was cheap and your standard faction epic mount cost a whopping 1000 gold (which was months of farming), so I leveled the Alterac Valley rep for the Stormpike Ram, which only cost 200 gold. But I had to farm Alterac Valley. For weeks. In a PVP, where an AV could easily last an entire day and the only reliable farming was to pick up pieces from killed players and hand them in. And I did that on a Rogue, and I was bad at the game. It was Hell :D but it saved me a whopping 800 gold in the long run.
An old friend of mine, got "the last" High Warlord title on his realm. He got it, just before they made those ranks unobtainable. He ofc kept it to TBC and beyond. There's no way I'd have that amount of dedication for WoW.
I feel like half of these entries are also reasons why vanilla wow is actually pretty terrible and the people who say it's the best ever are probably referring only to the levels of player interaction. Seriously, those mechanics sound like Total. Garbage. PvPing for hours every day? Reputation grinds where single mobs are your only source of exp? That's not even getting into how half the specs for classes were broken or useless. If that type of shit was introduced today everyone would lose their mind. Yet somehow you're more "hardcore" for having to pause for ~20 seconds between each kobold pull to replenish your resources or pressing the same three buttons to kill mobs for a shitty mat or gear drop. *opens arms to embrace the incoming flames*
Yeah but these awful mechanics are the reason the player interactions were so good. If there is no awful shit to overcome, why would you wisp this random guy to help you do it ?
Just thought of another one. The Tiny Carp pets on Mists. Assuming you were capped in fishing, had the tuskarr spears, the best fishing pole, and we're using the optimal lure, it was only like 3000 casts or so (on average, you could regularly get unlucky and go well into the 6000's). Of course, there are four, so that's 3000ish casts each. Don't go fishing in the wrong areas either, or you won't find it no matter the amount of times you try.
you know, i played in nostalrius and dont remember having to grind the final 2 levels.I think if you sprinkle the quests with dungeon runs, you don't need to grind out at the end. and nost did not give you an experience boost or anything like that.
The original Winterspring Frostsaber grind was EXTREMELY demanding way back when the game was new, because not only was it super tedious because it required a lot of back and forth on a regular mount but you also had super terrible gear compared to what you could have after BWL/AQ or even Naxx released. I levelled relatively quick having hit level 60 on December 7th 2004 as a dwarf paladin and between the day I found out about the saber some time in mid December till March 25th 2005 all I did outside of school/4 hours of sleep a day was farm Winterspring rep the entirety of my time outside of raiding; so a little over 4 months at between 8 to 19 hours a day (depending on school/raiding). Upon purchasing the saber, from March 25th to April 29th I had to farm Exalted with Darnassus for the Tiger riding skill. As word caught on that Blizzard intended on re-working the look of the 100% mounts around that time (and also afraid that the patch would change the way the Winterspring saber looked) and I hadn't gotten an epic Ram because all I'd done was farm rep and raid, I took a break from raiding and just tried to find every single Darnassus rep quest from the NE starting zone to wherever it led me. Obviously I ended up missing a bunch because quest helpers/addons weren't a thing so at around 6000 into revered I had to do it through Evergreen Pouch/morrowgrain (this was before cloth turn ins were a thing) - it was incredibly boring but since you could also occasionally just buy the herbs on AH it wasn't nearly as long as the WS grind. I could finally use the mount, though. I ended up having made around 870 gold from all sources from the start to the end of the grind as I got lucky with some world/epic drops so I figured I might as well try and do a final stretch to get a regular 100% mount too, so I flipped some dark iron ore/bars for a couple days and bought the white Ancient Frostsaber which I didn't want to swap for the new mounts. I'm very glad I didn't because not only is it the best looking mount in the game ever (imo), it also became thousandfold rarer than the Winterspring one even a few months thereafter and infinitely more special nowadays... even though I quit WoW in 2014.
try grinding from 1-60 with no friends no guild, and without dungeons in vanilla with a class that was extra squishy mage or warlock and on a pvp server good luck getting ganked while you grinded for weeks to get to 60
Unfortunately, it wasn't easier/harder to level solo. I can link you a screen shot of my rogue around 56 in vanilla that shows trade/LFG chat. I never usually had a problem finding groups for dungeons as long as you at least had a 60% mount and or flight paths unlocked to get there. I don't feel bad for people who say "no guild/friends." Not trying to be a dick or anything but yo, this is an MMOrpg. "massive multiplayer online" which means you should be playing with other people especially back then when communities were the at the peak. I played a rogue and started a few days later than all my friends but luckily I fell in love with this game and flew by them all and was the 1st to hit 60 by a few days played. I still play today and the best advice I can give to anyone is find a guild you can grow with. Find a guild you click with (not clique) but also have the same like-minded goals and stick with them. That will make this game unlock its full potential.
Yep....My first pick was a warrior...no friends, no guilds. A solo run to 60 back then on a class with practically no means to self heal? Oh and I had to learn by word of mouth how to obtain the runecloth bandages...That was a bit of a reprieve...
Some other grinds that took/take a loooooong time (trying to include grinds from each expansion) : - The Justicar / Conqueror title (exalted with factions in Warsong Gulch, Arathi Basin and Alterac Valley) - Hydraxian Waterlords rep grind in vanilla - Trying to get Thunderfury or Sulfuras in vanilla (or almost any legendary for the matter) - Getting Teebu's Blazing Longsword to drop (0.01% off one mob, lower on the others) - Winterspring Frostsaber in vanilla - Finding a Chromatic Sword in Legion (just for fun, not really a grind) - Poseidus mount (only spawns once or twice a week, at two spawn points far from eachother) - Insane in the Membrane achievement (exalted with a lot of hard to grind reps) - Guild rep when it was first introduced - Emperor Shaohao rep (maybe not as hard as the others but still a tough grind)
we had a rogue named Odumok who insisted on maxing his bow skill so he could dps Ony in the air. It took forever and it was all he ever talked about. another thing about the timbermaw rep is if you didn't know better you'd turn in all the beads and then they're the only way to go revered -> exalted
weapon skills were the best ... its logical that you need to master a weapon to use it effectivly... and its an mmorpg they should be time consuming...
@iPirateTv It was super easy to grind them up actually, there was a mob in the blasted lands that did not die unless you used an item to kill them, they would just punch you back forever. Paladins just used blessing of light *shrug*, most would let you beat on the mob while they were doing it because everyone could just alt tab and keep auto attacking the thing till their gear broke.
It took s lot for me to get it, but simply because I never focused on only one thing in wow I love PvP, I'm an achiever, I do pve a lot and I like to lvl my professions and my army of alts
The last grind I remember doing was the Netherwing grind of 2015... Managed to get from hated to exalted in just under a week. 10-ish hours a day for 6 days straight. My character never left that island, unless it was to do a daily quest for Netherwing... I was king of that mountain, and there were so many dead mobs at once that they'd just autoloot upon death (did you know that it does that when the loot menu is too full?). By day 3, the song had gotten to me and I started to sing along with it (had a... special grind song: czcams.com/video/SsjJ1WWrV20/video.html It seemed fitting. It was on loop 24/7. Even when I wasn't grinding. *Eggs-actly* )
I really feel like the grind for the Winterspring Frost Saber should be on this list. I know the Furbolgs already make an appearance but that grind took me at least a few months of 3+ hours a day running this same quests in that frozen hell hole
I still remember the poor horde guy abram who wasn’t in clique that took turns getting high warlord status. He pugged and still almost made it. Lost internet for a couple of days, came back and quit the game.
I remember that! One component was only sold by a single vendor for something ridiculous, like 5k gold, and you needed EIGHT OF THEM. Chinese gold farmers were loving all the new business they were getting!
Actually at some point grinding Warsong factions reputations (the ones found in the battleground) was also insane, mainly cause it was bound only to flag caps and in some games you would lose the fight without one single cap. Did the Timbermaw in vanilla tho this BG rep farm was far worst.
Rank 12 guy here. By the gods i remember the honour grind and it really felt like a lousy job. I stopped it sometime before TBC because i found a real job. One that actually paid...
You could add farming Invincible to that list. The drop rate on that mount is insanely low, though I'm not sure how its drop rate compares to things like the oozling. When you factor in that you have to do an entire raid (even today, ICC takes some time to burn through) and wouldn't find out til the end, if you got the damn thing. Add the raid lockout timer to that, and you have a grind that could take months.
No raid boss mounts deserve to be on this list, there are ways you can easily abuse raid lockouts as well so you don't have to go through the entire raid, plus the time you have to actually play the game is significantly less than any of the grinds on this list.
You should have included Justicar grind back in the old days. It took my sanity and burnt me out. I mean ~400 Arathi Basin VICTORIES, ~400 Warsong Gulch VICTORIES + a nice amount of grinding in AV. Man....... No other grind ever since has really felt bad.
Lmfao the grind to get the Insane title made me laugh so hard! Killing a goblin over and over again for 20 days.. REAL TIME?? Hahaha that's unbelievable. At least with the Warlord title you were interacting with your guides and doing battlegrounds.. This Insane title grind though... sounds so brutally boring that I'd almost say that it was pretty much inhumane of Blizzard to allow something so horrid to exist in their game! XD
Heh, lame. My MOM could do all these! ... No, literally. My mom has each and every one of those. Except the Rank 14 PvP in Vanilla - she never liked PvP much.
+Toa Onua Amazingly, my mom has always had a job, and a full time one at that. What she actually needs is a bunch of hobbies. You know, of the variety that takes you outside.
Archbishop Benedictino Kripperino That was hardcore in Mist Srsly. That island was Infested with people grinding it and raids to kill Oondasta It was a living hell The isles of Pandaria bring me nightmares... Isle of Giants Isle of Thunder Timeless Isle... All... Those.... Ganks.... So.... Much.... Blood....
Worst part about vanilla wasn't the fact that i was 11 playing a T game, but i had absolutely no idea what questing was and grinded and hit 60 2 weeks before BC came out. Oh the noob times.
My wife moved out when I was chasing the High Warlord title, would have divorced me if I kept at it. My life was literally work, PVP, and maybe 5 hours a sleep per night, for months. WoW didn't seem important anymore when she was gone, so we reconciled. We are happily married 10 years later. Hell of a grind.
Lol that's dedication bro.
My wife loved it. Said it was a good "babysitter" for me. I seem to get in trouble when left to my own devices.
dude i was like 13yrs old when i farmed for that title, i skipped classes and suffered bad grades because of it, got beat by my mom almost every day, she beat my ass with a belt til i bled. i never got to rank 14 but 13... it was totally worth it...until they decided to use same titles in cata rbg, after that i was ready to go kill myself.
This is why you don't get that obsessed with games. They will always ruin it for you :p.
Anthony Derome didnt even need to be obsessed, you just played the game normally. i hated pvping all day, i wish i had more time for other shit. even tho i was just a kid, i wanted to achieve something great, like show older guys in my guild that i got some dedication and i can work hard too.
My GM wasn't playing for like 3 months in wrath and he had logged out in storm peaks. When he finally logged back in there was something in his way and he couldn't see around it, so he killed it and it turned out to be the Time-Lost Proto Drake.
Selwrynn ooooooo that hurts
"Today, old friend." -Moe
Ugh.. that makes me want to die. Camped that through most of Wrarh and never got it..
I call bullshit on that.
Hahahhaha I ran into that thing by pure coincidence.
I killed it out of curiosity after aggroing it mid-air and landed to finish it.
After I did half of the zone lit me up in chat for stealing their kill.
I looked into how rare it was back then and I still laugh about it to this day
I still remember in vanilla you would join an AV, play for hours, log off, go to sleep, go to work, then come home to play, and it would still be the same AV going from the previous day!
Wow! As someone who joined at the end of legion it’s crazy to learn that there used to not be enough quests in the world to get to max level.
Yeah, levelling in Vanilla was quite the grind. It progressively got better with every expansion. Now its arguably far too easy to level.
Hero of Shattrah was pretty awful too. You had to kill like 12 thousand spiders for those venom sacs in Terrokar.
Had a guildmate way back when needed plans from the scryers.
Except he made a mistake and upped his Aldor rep. Once exalted he realized his mistake.
So ... he did it again for the Scryers.
I think that to this day, these spiders are still hiding, cowering in fear of him.
I did that after doing Insane in the Membrane pre nerf. Trust me, after Insane, Hero of Shattrah was a walk in the park, only took a few days rather than months. Honestly, after Insane all other grinds seemed like nothing.
I did it during DS LFR queues on my alts lol
Something basically every vanilla player had to do: Grind 1000 gold for the Epic Mount.
I remember it taking literal weeks of grinding. And every single player basically had to do it
that and grinding to exalted with other alliance factions in order to use their mounts
/horde
I remember in Vanilla one person ground up her Stormwind faction rep to Exalted because she played a Gnome and she wanted to ride an actual horse, not some clunky robo-ostrich.
The only way to grind rep back then, though, was turning in stacks of linen cloth. Stacks upon stacks upon stacks of linen cloth.
i did that on my Tauren with Orgrimmar so i could ride the Worg instead of a derpy kodo.
to this day i can remember the sound of an entire lowby instance dying to whirlwind spam so i could loot their cloth.
Damn., I remember hitting up Igxe.com for the rest xD
I wouldn't call Time Lost farming or grinding, as you never continually mindlessly killed enemies. You just waited, really.
+Vaxivop waiting is a grind in and of itself
+CrimsonSwitch Do you even know where the term "grind" comes from? It comes from the idea that you are a grinder, that grinds mobs to dust, as in killing loads of enemies. Waiting is boring and all, but you are literally not grinding anything at all.
Sir Tobias Eldridge And what does a grinder do when it doesnt have anything to grind? It waits, it waits until it is fed more things to grind, so yes waiting is still a grind.
+CrimsonSwitch Troll spotted, gotcha :p
I remember farming my Time Lost proto drake. I had WoW turned 24/7, NPC scanner turned on, volume on max, screen turned off and waiting for it to spawn for about 2 weeks while I was learning for final exams.
I did numerous 48h ”shifts” farming for rank 14, stopped studying at the university - and when i finally had one week left playing, i didn’t even had to be first, 3rd best would have been enough to rank up. The last week was WSG weekend,
multiple new players started that week, many of them made schedules with friends or siblings so that they could play 24/7 - after almost 72 hour straight, with a few minor breaks, I couldn’t stay awake any further, went to bed. Woke up almost 24 hours later, I had lost so much time during that sleep - I finished 7th that week, and in fact, lost some rank. To compensate, I would have to play just as much, but for two weeks now. I couldn’t handle it, and quit.
This is why we will never seen such sh*t in WoW never again :-)
The pvp system of vanilla wow sure is nothing I feel nostalgia for. Hell only really good thing about vanilla in the long run where the community. Raids and pvp where more superiour in TBC.
Yeah he really undersold how hard it was. The difficulty was because your ranked was based on how well everyone else did. So as other people played more you had to play more. That was the primary reason they dropped it in patch 1.12 or 1.14, can't remember what the last Vanilla patch was.
also, your rank had a certain threshold of how many kills/honor you had to do just to simply keep it from degrading. Holy shit. I remember i was in high school, i would LITERALLY come back home running, opening my pc and start playing like a maniac. I would even let my father play (fortunately he was a wow player too) when i was in school, just to simply collect honor.
I managed rank10, i wanted the commander title, rank 11, because you would be able to buy war mounts this way. However, i remember there was this tough week at school, were i had to study for like 3-4 tests. I didnt have much time to play, and guess what happened. my rank, which was almost complete bar to 11, fell back to like 40%. This is when i actually got sick and stopped the grind.
You would never had to do 48 hour shifts if you had a pvp team.. I only had to play about 12 hours a day.
winterspring frostsaber from vanilla was a heck of a grind too
Me2.. it was a bad one though.
Imo it was bigger grind than Timbermaw which I did after Wintersaber grind.
In timbermaw you kill the furbolgs and turn in the beads. In Wintersaber you need to make 840 or so quests and each of them takes like 10 minutes to complete and return. So quite a lot of downtime when running.
I tried to do 1000 rep each day before or after raiding and other necessary stuff.. it took like 2 months at that pace. In the weekends I managed like 3000 / day sometimes.
It was tedious to run back and forth the village and the frostsaber rock :)
Argent Dawn grind was also painful before you were able to do cauldrons up to Exalted. You could only turn in Scourge Stones.. which meant you had to run 5mans a lot.
They nerfed the requirements considerably after a while. Once they did, it took me only 3 days to go all the way to Exalted. Before the nerf, it would have taken me 4 months or so.
Did that grind back in the day and after learning how much blizz nerfed it i basically quit playing the character I unlocked it on out of sheer rage haha. I wish they would have at least changed the look of it so people who suffered the 2+ month grind got to keep some pride in what they did
Yeah, pretty sure this took me about 4-5 months to get to exalted of 4-5 hours grinding 5 days a week. I miss a good rep grind in wow, shame they aren't about anymore.
was gona say this. it was insane. each quest gave 50 rep.
I turned on the CZcams subtitles and they had me dying laughing through the whole video. Amazing
Was watching at work with the sound off and subs. The constant "ffffs" and rr=e7473639293 had me wondering wtf he was saying to get those subtitles lol
As someone who was part of a group attempting Rank 14 in vanilla, I personally never got sick of WSG. For us it became sort of like speedrunning. We weren't just mindlessly charging at dudes, we were optimizing our time for the fastest tokens with the most kills per game possible, constantly adjusting strategies, learning when it's more efficient to lose quick rather than win slow, abusing any minor detail we could find (green whelp armor lol) and really just pushing it. For us, WSG was no different to Dota or LoL. Sure, it's one map, but you can spend a looot of time perfecting the game.
edit: I should mention that we did not actually GET Rank 14. Efficiency did not beat raw playtime back in vanilla.
LoL yeah I had a similar thing going. And when we would feel like we were getting burned out we ran wsg naked except for weapons and eventually played in our "about town" clothes. Had a tailor make us some fine clothes or purchased some vendor stuff. Was pretty fun beating teams when we decided one day our flag runner had to /walk the entire match.
Hiru you didn't mention that back when the Insane title was NOT nerfed, you had to get Shendralar rep to exalted as well. Which meant grinding librams and pristine black diamonds, which took the longest to complete. Glad that inscription was a thing to make darkmoon cards. And I also don't remember it ever requiring to become exalted with Bloodsail buccaneers
+MiriQL Movies Yeah, I only remember it being honored as well, and I finished my Insane achievement while it still required Shen'dralar reputation; I guess I got lucky when I did it then lol.
I don't remember the grind for the Bloodsail rep being that awful, it was the easiest out of the group for myself; Syndicate rep was the second worst, followed by Shen'dralar.
Also, as a side note, the librams were unique, so you could only have one of each kind on you at once to turn in, which made you either need a portable mail box / Argent Tournament pet with the pony bridle, or you would end up running back and forth between DM north and your respective faction town in Feralas. The thing about it, was that it was before flying was enabled for Azeroth and you could easily end up entering too many instances, even without the flying.
Oh the goddamn lockboxes farming. I did the Insane title on TWO accounts pre-nerf and the lockbox farming was awful, sending them via mail. storing them in a guild bank... and those librams!!! UGH my server was selling pristine black diamons for 500g a piece and back then it was "Insane" amounts of gold that I wasted just to get this stupid title.
The best part was farming the cartel rep back by killing pirates near Ratchet
Two accounts? Damn, I was never that self loathing haha.
Once Knot Thimblejack was a thing in DM north, grinding out the rep wasn't nearly so bad, but time consuming as all hell.
The other one I was expecting to hear in this list was Hydraxian Waterlords reputation farming. God, that was another awful thing to have to do in classic WoW that only four or five people in your 40 man raid ever cared to do to douse those runes haha.
When GF wants an achievement... she will get an achievement -.-
Maybe she should get it herself? Haha, kidding aside, I could never do that one again, that grind took up quite a bit of valuable time.
Although having people pay me to grind lock boxes was a nice bit of income back then.
i miss attunement quests. bc was so much fun. vanila was fucking aweosme questing as well.
You wish
+Brian Morgan questing in vanilla was fucking garbage aside from a few golden moments that truly shone through the ocean of shit for example the onyxia attunement which was amazing the first time
I liked the long chain ones, Onyxia, Hunter bow, etc. They were immersive for me and were fun for me, sorry you fellas didnt enjoy your experience, Im not saying it was the best quality wise. But terrible , nah not in my opinion
+Brian Morgan agreed, retail is shit and vanilla is good
+Brian Morgan Attunements were cancer. I dont like how easy it is to get to raids nowdays, but at the same time attunements were pretty shit too.
There's one detail you missed about the Time-lost Proto-drake: it shares spawn with another rare spawn (Vyragosa). So if Vyragosa spawns, you have to kill her before the protodrake could (maybe) spawn.
i have the vanilla marshal title and i can tell you that wsg and ab are still the best bgs
I've never been fond of Warsong Gulsh but Arathi Basin will always be my favorite. It's like a second home. I loved the Eye of the Storms too.
I could only play on week-ends at that time and I was a few HV away to get to Master Seargent rank when Blizzard removed the ranked PvP system, I was so pissed. Still I proudly wear my Seargent title today, it's like going around shooting "vanilla character here, make way, kids!" :p
And yet, you can get the titles from RBGs, so most people probably just assume "Meh, low ranked RBG scrub"
I got the Knight-Champion (rank 9 of 14) ("Centurion" for Horde) and it was a pain in the ass to me already.
I got Knight-Lieutenant / Blood Guard and it wasnt even a pain... i just played for fun... now that i look back i wish i had played more pvp so i would have a higher rank, after all my rank was the one below the one you needed to be able to buy cosmetic rank 14 gear that was introduced later. -.- So pissed at that... rank 7 from way back in the day and nothing cool to show for it, not even the blue pvp set was given to me (despite actually using it in vanilla)... only a title which can be gotten from RBG easily.
Sigh I only got General
I enjoyed weapon skills. I remember punching a rhino in the face over and over in Northrend to get the knuckle sandwich achievement.
2:14 ^^ what the hell is he talking about? I just ran UBRS, Scholo and Strat over and over again until I dinged 60
You think you do but you don't
Jk but some of things for earlier expansions was really bad, game was still better tho
+IIStaffyII not really
+rdsasuke1 to each their own. I liked how it used to be, if you didn't then that's cool.
but that depends on if you did what you where supposed to do when doing what you did
you had to be insane to play vanilla wow and achieve things in the game. late burning crusades to the end of wrath were the glory days where the game didn't require you to give up your job, and family to have fun.
Small correction. They had spell skills in game but they were hidden. In SFK you got a curse debuff that actually reduced random skills by 100. This includes all spell schools.
don't speak of TLPD... I'm already getting music flash-backs, Skoll a lot of times, and Vyragosa at every turn! D:
*"LIVE TO WIN!"*
Did Netherwing in 16hrs straight of farming, then fell asleep. Woke up and did Shatari Skyguard in 12hrs.
Never again.
Sha tari in 12 hours? That's doable for 4 if you cross realm cleverly.
+How many neps can a Nep nep if a Nep nep Nep Probs back in BC.
+How many neps can a Nep nep if a Nep nep Nep i think he did it before cross realm founded
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How many neps can a Nep nep if a Nep nep Nep It took me almost two years.
I wasn't very committed.
next: top 10 grass patches in wow
+MattZ That's a crendor thing.
Nemolicious kek
Crendor just did a video on that.
***** For real?
Check his most recent video. I'm not kidding.
Just adding couple more.
Captured firefly (TBC). 0.07% chance to drop from Bogflare Needlers. Luckily I got this pet when leveling my first character.
And one more. Grinding stratholme for Deathcharger's reins.
I actually made a lot of money by disenchanting loot from the stratholme runs!
I am still trying to get that damn Stratholme mount to this day x.x
I got deathcharger from doing strat runs for the loot
I bought the firefly for 50g back in TBC (guy wanted 200g but I only had 50g), never expected that 1 to become so expensive later on (although it was already soulbound), but never been able to let myself sell it after battle pets/account wide pets
I got Deathcharger before they nerfed the runs. I spent a whole weekend rerunning Strat until it dropped. I also disenchanted loot for $$ at the time. Now Midnight.... sigh. Kara hates me when it comes to mount drop. Tho I do have the Arcanite Ripper from the event back in the day and pull it out every so often and rip the chords.
I still don't understand why people thought the weapon skill grind was so bad, at least in comparison to others. Just stack int and fight the highest level mob you could safely take.
Intellect increased the rate at which weapon skills grew (maybe so int wasn't 100% useless for warriors and rogues back then?)
High level mobs caused it grow faster.
Number 8 is completely untrue. There were MORE than enough quests to ding max levels, the issue was that blizzard intended you to supplement the gaps with instance quests. If you did all instance/zone quests you would hit 60 with about 2 zones and an instance to spare.
Not exactly. At the begining of vanilla, there was simply not enought quests even if you count instance quests. They added more quests later
Ternadil I played the beginning of vanilla, dinged 60 before patch 1.5... I had quests to spare.
AltF4 Gaming
So did i, and i did not have quests to spare. neither did anybody else, Im talking about very early stages of vanilla, following months of the launch.
Both Horde and Alliance I had enough quests to hit 60. Though you had to make sure you kept the chain quests. I am talking pre-DM. Side note I also didn't skip Mobs while questing.
Don't forget that they added in more quests as vanilla went on, so no shit but this is discussing Early vanilla. Not the 1.12 everyone did
Emperor Shahao reputation from Mists of Pandaria was pretty awful. It was mostly killing elite yaunglol until your fingers hurt all for cosmetic rewards and a mount. I never completed it.
This is nothing compared to any of the reputations needed for insane. 😑
How many neps can a Nep nep if a Nep nep Nep I agree with you, but it was a very time-consuming reputation grind.
I did shao with mythic hfc toon and cross realm from 0/12 up to exalted for about 7 hours
+How many neps can a Nep nep if a Nep nep Nep Your name is making me laugh so hard lol
do the mobs in the insane title oneshot you if you don't move perfectly/pull more than 2/not a max geared heroic tank with a healer? No? Than I'm not quite sure that they were that much worse. Doing the rep very late in MoP or even after it is a breeze, when it came out? If you had an empty server and a 5 man group it took 12+ hours, but most of the time the mobs were tagged on spawn. It may take more time, but the killing itself was easy. The shaohao mobs (the ones that were not farmed to zero by people questing) were aids.
Emperor Shaohao rep. I salute players with the heavenly golden serpent mount because that shit took TIIIIME.
Mel1lvar i got it yesterday, it took me 7 hours and i had to sacrifice my eye sight to do it in one sitting
You got the rep, long before you got the 1M coins required.
I waited until mid legion like a pleb to get mine, doing it at the time would have been nuts
during vanilla there was an unkillable mob you could level your weapon skill with ease. in blasted lands.
It was still in the game in bc and maybe wrath. I remember using it and I never got to play until BC
The Insane title is my shining achievement in wow. And I did it pre nerf too.
Bysentenial not like it required skill or anything. Just wasting your time.
Bysentenial Likewise, my Friend
Bysentenial been goin for it now In legion can’t imagine doing it prenerf ravenholdt is literally absurd
its not just about time/wasting your time. it requires huge dedication and mental toughness. I mean wtf you doing
+Audon It takes extreme patience and willpower though.
In mists, while questing in the hinterlands I got the disgusting oozeling without trying or even knowing of its existence, although they probably increased its drop rate
Idt they did
+MrDrainBramaged hey that's lucky for me I I guess, even though I'm not really a hardcore raider by any means
+MaMa DeW thanks?
Vial of the Sands was a monumental pain in the arse, took me 6 months to get that
grinding for the nether drake or nether ray took awhile too
+Lumpy Space Princess Hated every second of it
i only grinded for the nether ray, i literally hated trying to get all those nether eggs
+Lumpy Space Princess It was so worth it though. Took like, hmm couple weeks i think?
+Lumpy Space Princess I once farmed Sporeggor rep. Forgot why I did that.
Sean Berrios omg you poor thing. Thats a terrible grind): dont they give blue items when exalted?
The "Salty" title is a good honorable mention. Most of it isn't bad but the golden coins can break your will since you can get the same few over and over and "The One That Didn't Get Away" will reduce you to tears with its 0.01% drop rate fish.
Ummm... insane title involved a lot more than just that. Remember how after you ground out Bloodsail rep, you had to get Ravenholdt, Shandralar, Darkmoo Faire and all the Goblin factions to exalted.... sheesh. Bloodsail was the easy part!
You should do 10 Most Painful and Worst Battle Pets in WoW.
+Doronsmovies That's easy... All of them
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+Doronsmovies but all the battle pets are cute and good, how can there be bad ones? Nibbles has never let me down!
That reminds me how annoying raiding in vanilla was when hunters decided to bring a bat pet. For those that don't know or don't remember, at one point bats had only one screech that spammed over and over and over again. My guild banned the use of bats in raids. Perhaps this could somehow make some kind of top 10 :D
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I hit rank 10 in about 2-3 months and then went home for Christmas vacation (was in college) and then came back and was at rank 7. At that point I gave up lol. Damn vacation. I should have stayed and missed Christmas with my family! lol
My personal favorite grind that took a bunch of time was farming rep to get Talbuks. Still one of my favorite mounts c:
While the honor system was rough to get to the highest level, it also made some of my most favorite memories with friends when we pvp'd together every single day for hours on end. I absolutely loved it, and I miss it.
The weapon skill grind was easy; players would just attack the unkillable mob in the Blasted Lands (they wouldn't die unless you destroyed a particular object). Often times these mobs were kited to Stormwind *because* they were unkillable.
Those last two levels were a right of passage in vanilla WoW. Only thing that could top that would be the grind for your Paladin epic mount.
Anybody got an arcanite transmute?
www.engadget.com/2007/12/18/the-light-and-how-to-swing-it-the-paladin-epic-mount-quest-for/
Warlocks went through way more pain than the epic pal mount
I should find out what went into it. I wouldn't know as I played Mage/Paladin in Vanilla.
+FireGuy1337 Funny enough i did both back in old wow and still found the pally one to be harder although to be fair i did to lock one second so i had more resources at my disposal by that point.
i did both as well. Damn the warlock on was the worst for an alliance member. Dire Maul was just too far for most alliance people.
ironforge->menethil->feathermoon. it is not so far.
The hardest grind I ever undertook.... there are two, actually. The Timbermaw rep grind in vanilla was insane. There were no turn-ins, no repeatable quests. All rep was gained by killing Timbermaw. I think you got like 2 points per regular Timbermaw and 5 points per boss. There were one or two bosses. The Frostsaber Trainer rep to get the reins of the Winterspring Frostsaber was ridiculous. However, there is an easy, yet expensive, way to get the Frostsaber. On Horde-side, the Frostsaber is the Venomhide Ravasaur from Un'Goro. That one takes 21 easy days to get. So, if you go horde-side, you can easily get the Venomhide and then if you go back to Alliance, you have the Frostsaber. I'll add one other... in vanilla, I wanted a Crimson Whelpling. You get those by grinding whelps in Wetlands. I killed 20K whelps before one finally dropped the Crimson Whelpling.
Hearing all these grinds together in a 10 minute video makes me ask: "Why did I play this game for so long again?"
I was still in school by the time of release. Became one of the first rank 14 players in PvP in europe. That was one hell of a grind. Often playing 16 hours a day.
But after achieving the rank, the armor and the weapon (after the buff they were slightly better than molten core gear) playing PvP on my warrior was incredibly funny. Joining AV several healers decided to only heal me, watching me oneshotting most people (most mediocre equipped clothies had less than 2k health).
Best memory of WoW.
/r/thatHappened
rank 14 hours per day was understated by miles the majority had to play upto 20 hours a day and would often pay chinese farmers to play anytime they slept
Well, without a premade yes. I had a schedule: 9am to 6am:("ish") for weeks!!! (Ofc with some minor pit-stops) But It completely destroyed my world!! When I looking back at It now I get anxiety... It's just total madness! Never in my life will I do something like that again. Also calculated that WSG gave more HK/h so I was only ruuning WSG...
did you made it?
no I got rank 11, a friend stopped at rank 13, but I was part of premade that had a rotation for rank 14. people would lose gf/stop attending colleague/school or work. I had all 3 and fortunately did not see the benefit to giving them up for rank 14
And that's what made wow good at the time. The game so exciting that you got hooked to it!
I made rank 13, played about 12 hours day.
Me in my newness half expected the "Argent Tournament Dailies" to be here... compared to the stuff in this video, the 30-60 minute daily quest time was/is nothing, especially since I actually enjoy them- except for when the quest to kiss frogs near a lake in Fantasy Canada until a lady gives you a sword takes 30 minutes on its own because of bad RNG.
The only achievements left for me in the Argent Tournament are the Quel'Delar one and the mounts/pets ones
I got pretty tired of them...
Getting The Insane title was fucking... insane
Well not realy, it could be effeciently done. Got it on two characters before it got account wide
I think getting Insane is quite boring, but not really thaaaat time-consuming .. It took me longer to get the Loremaster tbh
+MoNt3c0r3 Finally got off my ass and picked up loremaster in Pandaria. Now THAT is a good way to get your money's worth of WoW content, just go and do all the damn quests lol
firedrake110 Have fun :)
Loremaster is quite fun, but it takes quite some time .. atleast for me it did because I did it post-cata on a character that was created pre-cata .. so my zones were completely reset, I had do re-do even the zones I previously leveled in >_>
This was such a depressing video about grinding, as if actually it managed to convey the heavy repetitive boredom that comes with all those grinds. Nice work.
58 to 60 was just one insane instance run. Pre-nerf Scholomance, including killing the re-spawns several times. I was the tank. And we needed like 6 hours or so. But we cleared the instance and I leveled up to 60 at about the last boss. Iiirc it was literally after killing the last boss. The second run took a hell lot less time, because I went in green and got out with mostly blue gear. ^_^
Fun times.
Yeah, tanks generally will have the best stories to tell from back then.
Scholomance doesn't give me shibbers because it's supposed to be "creepy" but because of how much time I spent in there helping my guild even AFTER I hit lvl 60...lol
I remember the quest gap from 58-60, I had played since a week after launch. I never really had to deal with the mob-kill-grind part, as I was a healing priest that was willing to deal with insane players with much better gear than me (I had blues and greens of mixed use, and was a "Hybrid" 25/26 priest back in those days...I never really raided much till BC, though I think I did get an epic in Vanilla from a PUG Molten Core). I ran dungeon after dungeon, specifically full Strat, Scholomance, and BRD...and I was willing to try to keep everyone alive as best I could.
I took Shammy tanks (Enhance Shamans back then, I was Horde, and yes they were insane), groups with multiple INSANE Mages (seriously...I've yet to meet a Mage that WASN'T insane), Drood tanks (before Drood tanks were a thing, and yes, at the time they were insane too), etc. And by golly I kept us alive *most* of the time...at the cost of my own insanity of course. And...um...I was never able to figure out the mechanics of "downranking" spells, so I knew every single spell I had like the back of my hand and relied on timing to do my thing. So when the Downranking nerf happened in the middle of BC, my view point was...."what nerf? Nothing's changed from what I can see." while literally every other healer was screaming bloody murder.
(A side note: don't group with multiple insane mages.....they are insane and will try their hardest to juggle ever-increasing numbers of mobs between them in a contest to see who can do the biggest damage among them, and will drag your own sanity kicking and screaming along with wherever they wish to go....it's best you just go along for the ride and not think too hard about it.... And before you ask, yes...I did manage to keep everyone alive 75+ % of the time...though I'm still trying to figure out if I have any PTSD from it or not...scolding them never worked and only seemed to make them try *harder* next time.)
I got turned off about a year or so after Cata was launched as all my friends were going off in various directions and couldn't care less whether I came along or not. So I left.....
I came back for short time in Legion and was ready to give the Healing Priest a go again, this time hang the previous friends, I'll find some new ones....and then..... I discovered it....."Wait...what? I can't cast a shield as a Holy Priest anymore?" I hadn't known at the time that the classes were completely ripped apart and simplified, and so...well...I leveled to 100 alone as a Shadow Priest, because I could shield myself at least and it was the least ripped apart of the Priest sub-classes. I wanted to be a group healing priest again, but now, if I couldn't use a shield, I didn't know how to play that half of my class anymore. (For those who might be a bit confused, I used the Power Word: Shield as a "pause" on the damage coming in to whoever I was working on, even in some cases, flipping rapidly between targets. It gave me precious time to think, and prioritize, and plan. I knew intimately how much damage it absorbed, how long it would last otherwise, how long the debuff lasted on my target, and how long the cooldown lasted on my hotbar. It literally was my lynch pin in my timing prowess in my ability to keep a group alive. In all honesty....it's what kept me from being a button masher healer.)
Now I have to completely re-learn how to play a healing priest and I'm afraid I just don't have the stomach (or time) for it anymore. It's a shame, really....give me just that one freaking spell, and I could jump right in and take literally any changes to healing for my class as a "Holy Priest." I know Disc Priests can still cast Shield, but they are now a "Damage Dealer Healer" and I can't wrap my brain around that, and Shadow Priests are a "Self Preservation Damage Dealer and if you need them to heal, just wipe already" sub class. But, I guess I'm just too old now.
How do you not have the original Cenarion Circle rep grind on here? It literally took me all summer to get exalted.
You forgot the grind of waiting for Legion
oh, hell no
+Varjant Still fucking months of a hfc
Fuck Blizz
PvP in WoD? Fuck me, never again. Almost got cancer because of this shit.
Saying something negative is considered bitching, noted.
Waiting for legion is easy now Overwatch is out seeing as I enjoy crazy shooters too ;p
You can keep destroying and remaking your glad sanctum to get all the quests at once
I guess you guys don't know how painful was the grind in the shimmering flats to get enough gold for your first mount back in vanilla.
You didnt manage or save your money properly, I only had to grind elites outside of SM for 5 hours to get the rest of the money for my mount.
There was more than enough quests to level from 58-60. I can attest to that as levelling a mage, hunter, warrior and paladin in vanilla wow.Also, farmed 6 skyshards in 5 hours just 2 days ago.
you actually missed alot of grinding info on the insane title...
Getting exalted with steamwheedle was just the start.
After that you needed to pickpocket UBRS for hours and hours.
And then you needed to collect books from Diremaul and combine them with other hard to farm stuff, in order to get exalted with Shen'Dralar.
After that you needed to get exalted with darkmoon faire. and the only way of doing that back in the day, was by combining cards and make decks.
Took me nearly 2 years to get it and it is still the title i wear today :)
Nowadays, the Shen'Dralar is removed from the chain and has become a feat of strength.
And with the renewed Darkmoon Faire, you only need to do dailies to get exalted.
The guards in all the goblin cities are much stronger now though
I remember grinding the corrupted Ashbringer skin in legion. Befor it was nerfed. About 80 straight standing around and nothing happened. I started teaming up with a friendly horde player. We did 12 hour shifts and then switched so other could sleep or something else. Then after 3 weeks of doing that every day i cross realm switched a couple of time while I was waiting just to see if I was lucky. I found the Ooze. But my horde friend couldn't come because he had raid night. Felt really bad for him but the group already attacked. Afterwards I started fishing. For another 30 hourse or so. About 1500 casts in I finally got the crystal. That shit was so goddamn annoying. I'll never grind again.
funny enough, i remember flying trough the time lost protodrake zone and saw him randomly, killed it and when i loot his corpse i got the mount, i had no idea at the time that the mount was such a big deal and rare. And when i told my guild mates they all freaked out and were mad at me for my insane luck
some things to say at the insane title: There was another way to gain both reputations. in the first place you could kill booty bay guards to gain faction for bloodsail buccaneers. the tricky part was that you had to have honored on the buccaneers and exalted with steamweedle at the same time. you killed booty guards for buccaneers but when you killed bucanneers for steamweedle rep you lost faction at the bucaneers. but there where other pirates at the coast of the barrens around lvl 18 that werent bucaneers but still gave reputation for steamweedle. you had to grind those few mobs till you got exalted at steamwheedle again.
Came for Timbermaw rep. Left happy.
The Bloodthirsty title is probably more painful than the Warlord of Draenor title but they're both pretty painful to farm
Also you forgot WSG exalted. You could (hypothetically) grind for hours or days without getting a single reputation point if your teammates are incompetent. Which, sadly, is often the case.
I'm already exalted with Frostwolf clan, revered with Arathi but I think I'm still honored or friendly with Warsong
And I queue for BGs as soon as I could. Me and my brother lvled together and we did a lot of BGs
Stopped playing a lot of times, but I play since 2010
:/
I think I'll have Invincible, the phoenix, the white hawkstrider, Aeonaxx and Time Lost proto Drake before I get to exalted with warsong
AB rep was the worst. I used to pvp a lot and had 100k kills at 70. Needed the 10 point ab win/loss achievement for the main title. Was on the losing end of 20 point AB games twice.
I did the skyshard farm... not sure if it was worth it, but it's fun to have ^^
The worst thing in this video is the very basic attitude, that something is a GRIND. Especially with rank 14, where the rewards were gear that competed with the most hardcore gear that was available until Naxx. And we know how neigh impossible Naxx was compared to PvP.
If you don't look at the "grind" and just play what you enjoy, you don't even notice that it is a grind. PTS from WSG? If i see WSG now, I am wondering if I would stand on the roof or at the tunnel ,as I was mostly defending and chasing. I had FUN there, and since that was my passion, it never got boring. It brought challenges with it, especially when I got better, and started to meet ranked groups with my ranked group. Those were some eopic fights. I didn't even notice, but I simply stopped killing people around the map, and was chasing down unkillable targets. Like 3 times circling the island in AB chasing down one of the best healers on the server, and disabling him off the warrior in his group. It was glorious!
The Ahn Qiraj unique mount given to players who went through the whole rep and quest chains to open the gate. Not just an individual grind, but a server wide grind.... Mal'Ganis, first PVP server to open the gates.
Back in Vanilla pvp, you could only queue for one battleground at the time too; so which ever was the more popular one at the time/day. There were also no battelgroups. Grinding the rank 14 title also 'forced' you to not only play a lot, but also be the top ranked player every week. Missing the top spot for any given week would severely set you back.
Cant belive u didnt mention the Vile of the Sands. Its rng inside of rng inside of even more rng. First you gotta hope the Dig Site is in the zone from Cata, Then u gotta hope the artifact ur making is a jar, AND THEN & only then do you have to pray to RN-Jesus that whats in the jar is the recp.
Yeah. Or you could just let someone else do it then buy it for around 25k.
+Strongside that mount is 53-55k on most servers
***** During Cata it was 25k and there were alway 5+ on the AH on my server.
The only time it has ever gone that low was during the late MoP early WoD time when duplicating was absolutely rampant. During cata it went for around 40k on high pop servers and 60-70k on lower pop servers.
Durrr Annn I grabbed it on Bleeding Hollow, which was high pop for 28k.
I had all of Warlords of Draenor but 5 weeks of Ashran for 5 hour a day i got 200 panda kills then went on a dry spell for a month and gave up
Not nearly as bad as any of the grinds on your list, but I remember back in Classic, when mounts were the costly item and riding was cheap and your standard faction epic mount cost a whopping 1000 gold (which was months of farming), so I leveled the Alterac Valley rep for the Stormpike Ram, which only cost 200 gold. But I had to farm Alterac Valley. For weeks. In a PVP, where an AV could easily last an entire day and the only reliable farming was to pick up pieces from killed players and hand them in. And I did that on a Rogue, and I was bad at the game. It was Hell :D but it saved me a whopping 800 gold in the long run.
An old friend of mine, got "the last" High Warlord title on his realm. He got it, just before they made those ranks unobtainable. He ofc kept it to TBC and beyond. There's no way I'd have that amount of dedication for WoW.
BRO, HIRU, WHAT THE F*CK ARE THE TWO MAIDS FROM RE:Zero DOING HERE?!?!?!
Rem is best girl
hirumaredx Noooo Emilia! Rem and Ram are just weird! ^^
thanks my friend for spreading the information i commented expecting someone to reply me with the name of the anime but no one did ty u anyway
i find nothing wrong with that.
+Meduso Please don't go there...
You forgot grind for Ahn'Qiraji opening event for scepter, THE WORST grind :D
I feel like half of these entries are also reasons why vanilla wow is actually pretty terrible and the people who say it's the best ever are probably referring only to the levels of player interaction. Seriously, those mechanics sound like Total. Garbage.
PvPing for hours every day? Reputation grinds where single mobs are your only source of exp? That's not even getting into how half the specs for classes were broken or useless. If that type of shit was introduced today everyone would lose their mind.
Yet somehow you're more "hardcore" for having to pause for ~20 seconds between each kobold pull to replenish your resources or pressing the same three buttons to kill mobs for a shitty mat or gear drop.
*opens arms to embrace the incoming flames*
DestinyGaleAries fail
^The good thing is we won't have folks like this on the Legacy servers.
Yeah but these awful mechanics are the reason the player interactions were so good. If there is no awful shit to overcome, why would you wisp this random guy to help you do it ?
See? Retail is full of kids like this
That is why I'm even more hyped for the classic community it will be a LOT less toxic than today's wow
@...and you will know us by the Trail of Dead perhaps I'm gonna roll horde because of your comment 🤣
Just thought of another one. The Tiny Carp pets on Mists. Assuming you were capped in fishing, had the tuskarr spears, the best fishing pole, and we're using the optimal lure, it was only like 3000 casts or so (on average, you could regularly get unlucky and go well into the 6000's). Of course, there are four, so that's 3000ish casts each. Don't go fishing in the wrong areas either, or you won't find it no matter the amount of times you try.
you know, i played in nostalrius and dont remember having to grind the final 2 levels.I think if you sprinkle the quests with dungeon runs, you don't need to grind out at the end. and nost did not give you an experience boost or anything like that.
The original Winterspring Frostsaber grind was EXTREMELY demanding way back when the game was new, because not only was it super tedious because it required a lot of back and forth on a regular mount but you also had super terrible gear compared to what you could have after BWL/AQ or even Naxx released.
I levelled relatively quick having hit level 60 on December 7th 2004 as a dwarf paladin and between the day I found out about the saber some time in mid December till March 25th 2005 all I did outside of school/4 hours of sleep a day was farm Winterspring rep the entirety of my time outside of raiding; so a little over 4 months at between 8 to 19 hours a day (depending on school/raiding).
Upon purchasing the saber, from March 25th to April 29th I had to farm Exalted with Darnassus for the Tiger riding skill. As word caught on that Blizzard intended on re-working the look of the 100% mounts around that time (and also afraid that the patch would change the way the Winterspring saber looked) and I hadn't gotten an epic Ram because all I'd done was farm rep and raid, I took a break from raiding and just tried to find every single Darnassus rep quest from the NE starting zone to wherever it led me.
Obviously I ended up missing a bunch because quest helpers/addons weren't a thing so at around 6000 into revered I had to do it through Evergreen Pouch/morrowgrain (this was before cloth turn ins were a thing) - it was incredibly boring but since you could also occasionally just buy the herbs on AH it wasn't nearly as long as the WS grind. I could finally use the mount, though.
I ended up having made around 870 gold from all sources from the start to the end of the grind as I got lucky with some world/epic drops so I figured I might as well try and do a final stretch to get a regular 100% mount too, so I flipped some dark iron ore/bars for a couple days and bought the white Ancient Frostsaber which I didn't want to swap for the new mounts.
I'm very glad I didn't because not only is it the best looking mount in the game ever (imo), it also became thousandfold rarer than the Winterspring one even a few months thereafter and infinitely more special nowadays... even though I quit WoW in 2014.
try grinding from 1-60 with no friends no guild, and without dungeons in vanilla with a class that was extra squishy mage or warlock and on a pvp server good luck getting ganked while you grinded for weeks to get to 60
Unfortunately, it wasn't easier/harder to level solo. I can link you a screen shot of my rogue around 56 in vanilla that shows trade/LFG chat. I never usually had a problem finding groups for dungeons as long as you at least had a 60% mount and or flight paths unlocked to get there. I don't feel bad for people who say "no guild/friends." Not trying to be a dick or anything but yo, this is an MMOrpg. "massive multiplayer online" which means you should be playing with other people especially back then when communities were the at the peak. I played a rogue and started a few days later than all my friends but luckily I fell in love with this game and flew by them all and was the 1st to hit 60 by a few days played. I still play today and the best advice I can give to anyone is find a guild you can grow with. Find a guild you click with (not clique) but also have the same like-minded goals and stick with them. That will make this game unlock its full potential.
Yep....My first pick was a warrior...no friends, no guilds.
A solo run to 60 back then on a class with practically no means to self heal?
Oh and I had to learn by word of mouth how to obtain the runecloth bandages...That was a bit of a reprieve...
Jordan Bauer mage and locks were super easy to level and very hard to kill lol
Worst grind was trying to get the 2h sword from archeology, I gave up after months of archeology
badrrharri I leveled my Pali alt on archeology, if figured if I was digging anyway I might as well get something else out if it.
That's. ..Cata...
Well beyond vanilla lol...
Some other grinds that took/take a loooooong time (trying to include grinds from each expansion) :
- The Justicar / Conqueror title (exalted with factions in Warsong Gulch, Arathi Basin and Alterac Valley)
- Hydraxian Waterlords rep grind in vanilla
- Trying to get Thunderfury or Sulfuras in vanilla (or almost any legendary for the matter)
- Getting Teebu's Blazing Longsword to drop (0.01% off one mob, lower on the others)
- Winterspring Frostsaber in vanilla
- Finding a Chromatic Sword in Legion (just for fun, not really a grind)
- Poseidus mount (only spawns once or twice a week, at two spawn points far from eachother)
- Insane in the Membrane achievement (exalted with a lot of hard to grind reps)
- Guild rep when it was first introduced
- Emperor Shaohao rep (maybe not as hard as the others but still a tough grind)
we had a rogue named Odumok who insisted on maxing his bow skill so he could dps Ony in the air. It took forever and it was all he ever talked about. another thing about the timbermaw rep is if you didn't know better you'd turn in all the beads and then they're the only way to go revered -> exalted
weapon skills were the best ... its logical that you need to master a weapon to use it effectivly... and its an mmorpg they should be time consuming...
@iPirateTv It was super easy to grind them up actually, there was a mob in the blasted lands that did not die unless you used an item to kill them, they would just punch you back forever. Paladins just used blessing of light *shrug*, most would let you beat on the mob while they were doing it because everyone could just alt tab and keep auto attacking the thing till their gear broke.
@@yayafreeskin I think he means that playing a mmorpg is not equal to "alt tab and keep auto attacking"
@@LebonMatha idle master
the egg grind for the netherwing drake
honestly wasn't that bad.
That grind was pretty easy.
It took s lot for me to get it, but simply because I never focused on only one thing in wow
I love PvP, I'm an achiever, I do pve a lot and I like to lvl my professions and my army of alts
You think that's bad? 4 words for you: Brood of Nozdormu grind
Netherwing was easy
The last grind I remember doing was the Netherwing grind of 2015...
Managed to get from hated to exalted in just under a week. 10-ish hours a day for 6 days straight. My character never left that island, unless it was to do a daily quest for Netherwing... I was king of that mountain, and there were so many dead mobs at once that they'd just autoloot upon death (did you know that it does that when the loot menu is too full?).
By day 3, the song had gotten to me and I started to sing along with it (had a... special grind song:
czcams.com/video/SsjJ1WWrV20/video.html
It seemed fitting. It was on loop 24/7. Even when I wasn't grinding. *Eggs-actly* )
I really feel like the grind for the Winterspring Frost Saber should be on this list. I know the Furbolgs already make an appearance but that grind took me at least a few months of 3+ hours a day running this same quests in that frozen hell hole
I still remember the poor horde guy abram who wasn’t in clique that took turns getting high warlord status. He pugged and still almost made it. Lost internet for a couple of days, came back and quit the game.
My uncle has the Insane title. He’s alive and well today.
Vial of sand recipe…
I remember that! One component was only sold by a single vendor for something ridiculous, like 5k gold, and you needed EIGHT OF THEM.
Chinese gold farmers were loving all the new business they were getting!
I mean the recipe. The one you need to do ARCHAEOLOGY to get that.
pfff, try to dig up Ultramarine Qiraji battle tank for 900 hours like me... fucking never ever
How was that painful? Everyone found out the bug and got the mats cheaper than 4k/mount Lol
But Archeology is fun tho.
1:19, GJ you failed basic math. 1/10 and 1/100 makes 1/1000, not 1/10000
Actually at some point grinding Warsong factions reputations (the ones found in the battleground) was also insane, mainly cause it was bound only to flag caps and in some games you would lose the fight without one single cap. Did the Timbermaw in vanilla tho this BG rep farm was far worst.
Rank 12 guy here. By the gods i remember the honour grind and it really felt like a lousy job. I stopped it sometime before TBC because i found a real job. One that actually paid...
Ravenholdt rep.....
So..... Many...... Junkboxes......
You could add farming Invincible to that list. The drop rate on that mount is insanely low, though I'm not sure how its drop rate compares to things like the oozling.
When you factor in that you have to do an entire raid (even today, ICC takes some time to burn through) and wouldn't find out til the end, if you got the damn thing. Add the raid lockout timer to that, and you have a grind that could take months.
No raid boss mounts deserve to be on this list, there are ways you can easily abuse raid lockouts as well so you don't have to go through the entire raid, plus the time you have to actually play the game is significantly less than any of the grinds on this list.
WOrst Grind in WoW: Hidden Retribiution Artifact Skin farming...
You should have included Justicar grind back in the old days. It took my sanity and burnt me out. I mean ~400 Arathi Basin VICTORIES, ~400 Warsong Gulch VICTORIES + a nice amount of grinding in AV. Man....... No other grind ever since has really felt bad.
as someone who grinded the original insane title, I've gotta say... ONLY 2? FUCK ME, WHAT COULD BE #1?
oh. yeah, right. that makes sense. glad i didn't do any serious pvp back then.
Lmfao the grind to get the Insane title made me laugh so hard! Killing a goblin over and over again for 20 days.. REAL TIME?? Hahaha that's unbelievable. At least with the Warlord title you were interacting with your guides and doing battlegrounds.. This Insane title grind though... sounds so brutally boring that I'd almost say that it was pretty much inhumane of Blizzard to allow something so horrid to exist in their game! XD
I was not necessary for the title as it only required honored but if you for whatever reason wanted exalted you have to do that
Heh, lame. My MOM could do all these!
... No, literally. My mom has each and every one of those. Except the Rank 14 PvP in Vanilla - she never liked PvP much.
+Teemo Jess Teeeeeemo
Your mom needs a job.
+Toa Onua Amazingly, my mom has always had a job, and a full time one at that. What she actually needs is a bunch of hobbies. You know, of the variety that takes you outside.
Don Korb Hmmmm. Have her make a sexy cosplay
+Toa Onua Uhm... no.
What about the bone white primal raptor grind?
Archbishop Benedictino Kripperino That was hardcore in Mist
Srsly. That island was Infested with people grinding it and raids to kill Oondasta
It was a living hell
The isles of Pandaria bring me nightmares...
Isle of Giants
Isle of Thunder
Timeless Isle...
All... Those.... Ganks.... So.... Much.... Blood....
Gathering materials for Old Naxxramas as a resto druid.NOW THAT WAS PAINFUL.
Worst part about vanilla wasn't the fact that i was 11 playing a T game, but i had absolutely no idea what questing was and grinded and hit 60 2 weeks before BC came out. Oh the noob times.