957: Fyre Festival- The Story Netflix did Not Tell with Marc Weinstein

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  • čas přidán 13. 05. 2024
  • In this episode, Sal, Adam, and Justin speak with Marc Weinstein, who was featured in Netflix's just released documentary Fyre. Marc goes into detail about what led him to work with the festival, why he stayed to the disastrous end and what he learned from the experience. This is a very interesting conversation with a behind the scene look at the music festival business, the power of social media and the damage that one charismatic sociopath can inflict.
    What Marc does for a living, his background and how he connected with Mind Pump? (2:06) What are some of the most profitable music festivals and the challenges you would face starting one? (8:50) Did he know what he was getting into when he switched from finance to event production? (14:50) How he ‘fell’ into the music industry. (18:09) Why the events industry is always a mess and the need to just ‘figure it out’. (21:10) How did he meet Billy McFarland and the founders of the Fyre Festival? (23:45) How did he deal with the coordination and stress of trying to accommodate the festival guests? (38:40) What were the conversations like with the other members of the production team while this debacle was going on? (42:37) Was there a thought process to postpone? (45:27) How did he coordinate the festival guests off the island and when did he discover that Billy had committed wire fraud? (48:40) Was he afraid at any point the locals would get violent? (52:50) Who owns the footage from the documentary? Are we contributing to this sociopath? (53:48) How Fyre is just a microcosm of how social media portrays our lives. (58:55) What is the aftermath from this? (1:01:23) Does he find it cathartic to talk about it? Make amends with GoFundMe pages? How we could use social media for good. (1:03:40) How does he feel he has evolved from this? His take on the social media revolution. (1:09:00) Does he see an advantage of events like Burning Man unplugging from technology? (1:17:00) What practices does he implement to cope with social media addiction? (1:18:37) What is he currently pursuing? (1:20:57) Featured Guest/People Mentioned: Marc Weinstein (@warcmeinstein) Instagram Brett Kincaid (@bretthendersonkincaid) Instagram Ja Rule (@Ruleyork) Twitter Billy McFarland (entrepreneur) Tristan Harris (@tristanharris) Twitter Products Mentioned: January Promotion: MAPS Anabolic ½ off!! *Code “RED50” at checkout* FYRE: The Greatest Party That Never Happened | Netflix Official Site Lesson from the Fyre - Marc Weinstein - Medium Prime Social Group Live Nation Adds Governors Ball to Its Music Festival Lineup What Really Happened at the Sweetlife Music Festival TomorrowWorld: festival will have a bright future despite SFX bankruptcy XLIVE - Las Vegas The Matts Productions, LLC Insight Venture Partners: Venture Capital Firms NYC FYRE FRAUD Streaming Online | Hulu UNREAL-SYSTEMS Exuma Foundation for the locals impacted by Fyre Irresistible: The Rise of Addictive Technology and the Business of Keeping Us Hooked - Book by Adam Alter iGen: Why Today's Super-Connected Kids Are Growing Up Less Rebellious, More Tolerant, Less Happy--and Completely Unprepared for Adulthood--and What That Means for the Rest of Us - Book by Jean M. Twenge PhD BRICK Siempo

Komentáře • 427

  • @sunniavonrep3148
    @sunniavonrep3148 Před 2 lety +75

    The cheese sandwich memes aside, the lady who managed to feed all those people even that out of her pocket was the mvp

  • @nihilismistheonlyway4680
    @nihilismistheonlyway4680 Před 5 lety +959

    He gets to talking about Fyre right about 25:00
    You're welcome 😎

  • @violetbrown8998
    @violetbrown8998 Před 5 lety +356

    Aside from CZcams, I am completely disconnected from social media. It's not easy, but it gets easier over time. Do it. Life is beautiful.

    • @tediousbrief5944
      @tediousbrief5944 Před 5 lety +17

      @@bethart1985 -Spends 16 hours on CZcams a day.

    • @XOXO___3
      @XOXO___3 Před 5 lety +4

      CZcams an twitter. Instagram if you have a business

    • @tavoiaiono7885
      @tavoiaiono7885 Před 5 lety +9

      Yeah me too. Over 12 months now. At least utube you're not bombarded with shit.

    • @tavoiaiono7885
      @tavoiaiono7885 Před 5 lety

      @@tediousbrief5944 yeah are watching and educating yourself or just stupid shit? I use utube for documentaries and sometimes sport highlights. But that your thing non of my business.

    • @sole__doubt
      @sole__doubt Před 5 lety +2

      Its like any other bad habit/addiction. Like cyan pepper said,its not easy to quit. Especially if you really make them a part of your life, it a difficult thing to stop.

  • @beejaysphotos
    @beejaysphotos Před 5 lety +161

    Where is jah we need to make sense of all this #davechapelle

    • @romancastro_
      @romancastro_ Před 5 lety +8

      Willard Haywood after watching the documentary , I have the same question..,

    • @ohboi718
      @ohboi718 Před 5 lety +6

      Yeah we need to hear Jeffrey's side of this 🤔 I wanna know what 50 had to say about this 😂😂😂😂

    • @depone6334
      @depone6334 Před 5 lety +6

      all these years i been trying to figure out where Jah is and what he has to say about all this

    • @OWOT-re5jf
      @OWOT-re5jf Před 5 lety +13

      The douche bag tried to say that it wasn't fraud; just false advertising. He needs to go to prison. Such a jerk.

    • @ohboi718
      @ohboi718 Před 5 lety +3

      @@OWOT-re5jf I agree .... He is a POS

  • @75aces97
    @75aces97 Před 4 lety +77

    23:22 Andy in Netflix doc mentions what a mess the original Woodstock was but there was one major difference between that and failures like Fyre. Woodstock organizers were also amateurs, but the one thing they had to get right was the music, and they delivered. The bands they promised all performed. People can forget certain discomfort if they get the experience they come for.

    • @danieledwards3376
      @danieledwards3376 Před 2 lety +15

      Fyre wasn't really sold on the music, though, it was sold on luxury, glamour and Instagram "celebrities".

    • @75aces97
      @75aces97 Před 2 lety +10

      @@danieledwards3376 I know, but I meant that Woodstock didn't do everything right, but did deliver the one thing that people came for. Fyre advertised many things, but delivered none of them.

    • @zamir4618
      @zamir4618 Před 2 lety +6

      @@75aces97 they got cheese sandwiches tho

    • @75aces97
      @75aces97 Před 2 lety +2

      @@zamir4618 True. Nothing like a good cheese sammich.

    • @richardburchett
      @richardburchett Před 2 lety +7

      What the Woodstock audience came to experience vs. what the Fyre audience was looking to experience says a lot about modern society

  • @1sTEfFaniE1
    @1sTEfFaniE1 Před 5 lety +109

    If they had just put half as much effort into planning the actual festival as they did into planning their social media campaign it could have been a success.

    • @Claytondupuis
      @Claytondupuis Před 5 lety +17

      No matter what they did, the festival would have been a failure on their 6 month timeline. One would need to burn Richard Branson level money to have built the infrastructure necessary under such an impossible deadline, and the concept of breaking even would have still been absoloutley laughable.

    • @1sTEfFaniE1
      @1sTEfFaniE1 Před 5 lety +4

      @@Claytondupuis well putting effort into planning the thing would have included having a realistic timeline and budget to work with.

    • @77Avadon77
      @77Avadon77 Před 5 lety +4

      @@Claytondupuis I don't know, six months is still quite a generous amount of time had they gotten on it immediately. When told by one of the employees that they should start immediately they dismissed him. They really didn't get into high gear until about a month-and-a-half out. That's when they started stressing out and had problems with catering and everything else. Had they actually started six months out building bars and stages and everything else they could have at least had something decent to show. It might not have been to the highest standard but it would have been something acceptable

    • @oisinquinn9469
      @oisinquinn9469 Před 5 lety

      @@1sTEfFaniE1 with a realistic budget it would never happen

    • @jjfiend
      @jjfiend Před 5 lety +5

      77Avadon77 that, annnd they were getting drunk ALLLLL the time 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @LukeChristopherPhoto
    @LukeChristopherPhoto Před 5 lety +44

    I've worked in this industry down in Miami, it was hard enough in a city, I can't imagine trying to pull something like that off in a remote location in such a short time. But Marc is right, there are some great people to work with who can pull off miracles, and there is a sense of pride and duty to pull off the event. Luckily I've never had to deal with anyone like BF.

  • @MandiCurls
    @MandiCurls Před 5 lety +191

    “At least they will be seeing your smiling face doing yoga poises” 😐

  • @k.stacey7389
    @k.stacey7389 Před 5 lety +71

    I work for one of the top concert/festival companies he mentioned. We were laughing our asses off at the first Fyre promo video alone. It was never going to happen and was an obvious “dumpster fyre” from day one. Absolute delusional ridiculousness.

    • @hildajensen6263
      @hildajensen6263 Před 4 lety +25

      I'm just a person with life experience, and even I could tell it was bullshit.
      There's no such thing as a luxury festival for thousands of people. It simply can't be done.

    • @MissOrchid12
      @MissOrchid12 Před 4 lety +6

      And who with that promo vid - who was their target demographic anyway (apart from people who had money to burn)?? Wasn't clear who they were targeting. It looked like a turn out of college kids who eventually came, not elite 'a' lister types.

    • @weltonvillegal6258
      @weltonvillegal6258 Před 4 lety +6

      Hilda Jensen - If they had planned and worked it for 18 months instead of 8 weeks, it could have worked. And if there were legit people running it.........

    • @Trid3nt861
      @Trid3nt861 Před 3 lety +6

      @@MissOrchid12 i think Mcfarlane and Ja Rule were targeting guilable millenials who wanted to live the fantasy rich lifestyle and get the chicks, same with the women who thought they would get the hot guys....... the end result was a borderline FEMA camp scam with "GOURMET" government public school bread and white cheese sandwiches with a garnish of basic lettuce, 3 tomatoes and some cheap dressing all in small white foam container.

    • @cuixinshi
      @cuixinshi Před rokem

      The moment that you realized they are setting up a festival in 5 months. That’s impossible. There are too many factors that play into the festival.

  • @natashaalexander4651
    @natashaalexander4651 Před 5 lety +89

    It would be amazing if someone could pick up the Fyre Festival idea, scale the concept down to reality, and actually create something magical. I would definitely go

    • @ohboi718
      @ohboi718 Před 5 lety +18

      Facts .... Its was a great concept but was poorly executed

    • @77Avadon77
      @77Avadon77 Před 5 lety +13

      They have it it's called Burning Man

    • @natashaalexander4651
      @natashaalexander4651 Před 5 lety +5

      @@77Avadon77 Burning Man is NOTHING like what Fyre Fest would have been. Burning man is the middle of the desert and it is NOT a music festival. I'm a burner 2014, 2016 and hopefully 2019.

    • @BlackGypsyCharm
      @BlackGypsyCharm Před 5 lety +3

      Fyre festival 2.0 coming up soon courtesy of jarule

    • @thomasmills339
      @thomasmills339 Před 5 lety +3

      No. All the bands suck. Plus it's been done. Lollapalooza and they ruined that.

  • @GaellynGarb
    @GaellynGarb Před 5 lety +34

    Really great interview. Enlightening on so many level, not only about that Fyre disaster.

  • @sxerosie
    @sxerosie Před 5 lety +18

    This was an interesting perspective, thanks for sharing!

  • @tristanbaravraham6349
    @tristanbaravraham6349 Před 3 lety +5

    Yes, the Netflix documentary led me here. Very glad to be here, fascinating commentary and pretty good comments to boot. It does make you wonder how a fool and their money get together in the first place. Maybe a dad who was ruthless in real estate maybe? Oh, well. It's good to know 90% of the US Navy is still S.E.A.L.s. makes me sleep easier. I really do have to say what huge huevos to stay and work on the wreckage. That really is very impressive and shows enormous character.

  • @mariaearaya8934
    @mariaearaya8934 Před 5 lety +8

    I went to both 90s festivals. The first one was so much better. I wish you would do it again!!!

  • @yashsinghal1023
    @yashsinghal1023 Před 3 lety +4

    Great interview , Marc.. I was skeptical but in the end I kind of understand how might he have struggled through ..plus staying long after the fest is over to coordinate supplies shows his integrity

  • @heavenleigh2463
    @heavenleigh2463 Před 3 lety +6

    Marc seems to be a true professional and man of integrity.

  • @Rideordiealmelo
    @Rideordiealmelo Před 5 lety +185

    LMAO as long as we live in a world were people get paid 250k for a single tweet, nothing will change.

    • @vancekangyishu
      @vancekangyishu Před 5 lety +14

      RideorDie Almelo why doesn’t she use the 250000 to the poor workers? Fking bitch

    • @ohboi718
      @ohboi718 Před 5 lety +6

      Facts 😂

    • @77Avadon77
      @77Avadon77 Před 5 lety +22

      I know right why didn't Kendall Jenner donate that money to the victims instead of keeping it. What a sadistic selfish bitch

    • @Trid3nt861
      @Trid3nt861 Před 3 lety +5

      @@77Avadon77 kendal would just get cans of Pepsi and hand them out to everyone and believe that would fix things.

    • @camillatruquesdebeleza7086
      @camillatruquesdebeleza7086 Před 3 lety +5

      Can you imagine making all this money to do something that takes only a few minutes? That’s insane

  • @s0fa274
    @s0fa274 Před 5 lety +12

    Really insightful interview, this guy is really well spoken.

  • @cbrogan100
    @cbrogan100 Před 3 lety +1

    I live under a rock but this was a really nice interview with some down to earth people. What stuck out is when Marc said why was he in the doco so much when he was involved for a month. He just has this voice of reason I think and just naturally is a great person to have speaking to us about something like this.

  • @jasontoi8628
    @jasontoi8628 Před 2 lety +5

    Marc Weinstein is actually a smart and loyal person. Good to hear his perspective.

  • @jcrisp90
    @jcrisp90 Před 3 lety +6

    I really like this guy, he seems articulate, honest with humility

  • @cosmik7147
    @cosmik7147 Před 5 lety +79

    I've been seeing a lot of people debate on which documentary they should watch. The one on Netflix or the one on Hulu, I personally enjoyed the one on Hulu a little bit more, but in my opinion is best to watch both. The perspectives in each film are totally different

    • @debbiep99
      @debbiep99 Před 5 lety +19

      The one on Hulu paid the scam artist. No thanks

    • @cosmik7147
      @cosmik7147 Před 5 lety +13

      @@debbiep99 then don't watch it. Wtf do I care

    • @ernestolefebre9048
      @ernestolefebre9048 Před 5 lety +20

      @@debbiep99 The one on Netflix paid the media company in charge of marketing the festival lol

    • @debbie2042
      @debbie2042 Před 5 lety +52

      Only one has Andy King saying he was prepared to suck a dick to release water for the festival. Thats the Netflix one.

    • @LadyLawyerG
      @LadyLawyerG Před 5 lety +6

      Watch both. Hulu then Netflix..different perspectives

  • @victortrejo7443
    @victortrejo7443 Před 5 lety +4

    Thanks for posting. The additional insight gave an even further background into how this mess happened.

  • @maiyamerrick3323
    @maiyamerrick3323 Před 2 lety +1

    As an event coordinator, this is so refreshing to hear!

  • @hanzzyolo8240
    @hanzzyolo8240 Před 5 lety +9

    Best pod cast I've heard in awhile

  • @eswag153
    @eswag153 Před 4 lety +22

    This dude is a fantastic storyteller

  • @StookyBill
    @StookyBill Před 2 lety

    i love that time stamped the questions, thank you!

  • @AzeraV
    @AzeraV Před 3 lety +5

    Came for the festival talk but the internet addiction points definitely hit me.

  • @shaykendall8742
    @shaykendall8742 Před 3 lety +57

    "I don't know what happened to that Fyre Merch, I think people are wearing it all over the Bahamas" I'm from here. I can confirm hundreds of teenagers and University of the Bahamas students have them. 🤣

    • @yashsinghal1023
      @yashsinghal1023 Před 3 lety +2

      😆

    • @mario10zeus
      @mario10zeus Před 2 lety +1

      Don't throw them away, they might be expensive souvenirs or collectors items someday.

  • @zachtrapper2398
    @zachtrapper2398 Před 3 lety +2

    Good talk. They picked the right guy for this interview.

  • @acbc3543
    @acbc3543 Před 3 lety +6

    I think there’s a sense of PTSD over these people about Fyre ! They’ve never gotten over it since they show each and every detail .

  • @seanmoloney7797
    @seanmoloney7797 Před 2 lety +6

    This guy’s a boss. He was the only one in the whole affair that seemed legit and was doing his job when everybody around him stopped.

  • @annadaae26
    @annadaae26 Před 5 lety +86

    Hmm... they charged $6 to get into Woodstock, promised and sold no lodging and didn't even promise more than live music, which actually showed up.

    • @arsenioibay414
      @arsenioibay414 Před 5 lety +9

      Fyre didn't last long enough, and I bet the boys at Fyre had more pressing things on their mind (food, water, shelter) than getting their wicks slick

    • @aro5490
      @aro5490 Před 5 lety +7

      that wasn't at the original Woodstock festival. They were talking about the original 60's Woodstock

    • @tweeztweet287
      @tweeztweet287 Před 5 lety +5

      Well that show was a disaster for many other reasons but i feel you and would say times were different back then, ppl are waaay more entitled now and that means pampering is a must at the these big events for ppl w money

    • @YungM.D.
      @YungM.D. Před 5 lety

      tweez tweet Totally agree. Just a different era, different values, even the social media effect; social media would’ve killed Woodstock but at the time the overall message of the festival was what was covered. I don’t think we’ll ever get an event like that again.

    • @seanconroy3567
      @seanconroy3567 Před 5 lety +1

      One is in NY the other is in a foreign country and on an island...

  • @bigtakeshi
    @bigtakeshi Před 5 lety +73

    You should've talked about the meeting near the end where Ja Rule says 'that's not fraud, that' false advertising." It seems Ja Rule apparently KNEW they were lying and let them do it.

    • @AlbertLara
      @AlbertLara Před 5 lety +11

      bigtakeshi Yes! Exactly! To me, That was actually the most memorable clip of the documentary.

    • @nihilismistheonlyway4680
      @nihilismistheonlyway4680 Před 5 lety +5

      I bet legally they're not really supposed to mention him and his part in all this.

    • @AlbertLara
      @AlbertLara Před 5 lety +9

      LosAngeles FlyerClub Ja Rule is scratching and clawing to stay relevant. Too bad he can’t realize that the end of his career was when he started “singing” ghetto love songs with Ashanti in the early early 2000s.

    • @rosieposie5241
      @rosieposie5241 Před 5 lety

      He mentions it pretty much summed up what he thought about it

    • @cjspyker
      @cjspyker Před 5 lety

      he wasn't in that meeting I believe

  • @Smc954
    @Smc954 Před 5 lety +79

    Thats awesome that the people on the island is getting paid back through a go fund me but i dont think its right at all that the people responsible isnt paying up and everyone else is fixing his wrong. A lot of people ask why didnt ja step up and pay some back the same can be said about the promo models that made way more than what that women at the restaurant lost could of pitched in and helped out but they arent and week to week paycheck people are..

    • @Smc954
      @Smc954 Před 5 lety +4

      manic hispanic it was one lady that started it but a lot of these people that were involved with the festival were promoting that particular page and they ended up raising the money for the lady whose restaurant it was shes a great lady and gave the extra money do some of the people that work on the site

    •  Před 5 lety +3

      That poor woman who busted her ass and used her own money I truly felt for bc you can see her heart was so involved in her craft..I said man I hope she comes back into two times the money that was STOLEN from her..and recently hearing that she did made me believe there was some hope left in people. She was willing to lose it all just to keep her integrity at the highest possible level..I ever visit the island soon I would like to stop by her restaurant I heard nothing but positives about it

    • @quatermass8
      @quatermass8 Před 5 lety +2

      Wonder what the prick Billy is doing how.

    • @FlyPsiche
      @FlyPsiche Před 5 lety +1

      Quatermass hopefully is giving some booty

    • @kelsey4087
      @kelsey4087 Před 5 lety +2

      @@quatermass8 He is in prison for the next 6 years for wire fraud

  • @cspeidel331
    @cspeidel331 Před 5 lety +10

    I have a thesis that Ja Rule threatened Billy to take the fall for the festival. Ja was proud to be promoting the festival in the build up, but when shit hit the fan he seemed to just be able to distance himself from it all with little to no repercussions. I really think he privately told Billy to take the fall or something bad would happen to him because in the Hulu doc Billy gets asked where Ja Rule was during this, and Billy very lightly talks about "private conversations" they had to keep it going. This is a thesis but it would make sense to me

    • @Mademoiselleantoine
      @Mademoiselleantoine Před 5 lety +6

      That's an outstanding thesis. I feel like Ja Rule should take the blame for the festival mess. He's also participating in the chaos. Honestly, He should count his blessing for not going to prison.

    • @grainofsalt4934
      @grainofsalt4934 Před 3 lety +3

      Ja Rule is a coward

  • @fnk101
    @fnk101 Před 5 lety +6

    Great interview learnt some stuff

  • @keithymg
    @keithymg Před 5 lety +2

    Great Interview, he was the only one I kind of liked other than the Bahamians. After this, I really like him.

  • @eugeniageneva
    @eugeniageneva Před 5 lety +24

    My dad was a tour manager for Hank Jr., Lynyard Synyard, Willie, Tritt, Patti Loveless, Jodee Massina, Charlie Daniels, Gov’t Mule... and hundred of others. I use to tour with Hank Jr. (tag along with dad on the band bus for weeks through my summer break from school).... and Mark is correct... 100%%%%%%%%% concert/music traveling circus 🎪, is absolutely nonstop fucking fire 🔥 squashing. Everything goes wrong from production truck broke down and is not here with all the cords, that literally, hook up everything... to... fucking band members hung over and or already shit faced for the night... wives destroy the hotel room after a fight with drunk guitarist husband.... promoter didn’t hire the right amount of of security for 50,000 people heading in, in about 5 hours....on and on and on... lmao

  • @gordo4300
    @gordo4300 Před 5 lety +37

    I like how he knew it was going to be a scam/disaster but decided to stick with it until the very end and now gets to act like a martyr.

    • @77Avadon77
      @77Avadon77 Před 5 lety +7

      I think he got caught up in it and was trying to bail water even as it was sinking. While on the other hand a lot of other people distanced themselves early.

    • @littleseamstress
      @littleseamstress Před 5 lety +7

      exactly what i was thinking. he acts like hes above it and better than it but he jumped on the organizing team for housing up until the day it came

    • @kelsey4087
      @kelsey4087 Před 5 lety +6

      Agreed! I feel like a bunch of people involved with Fyre are placing too much blame on "social media". Our fixation with it probably isn't very healthy, but social media is not fundamentally evil in and of itself. A whole team of people used social media to mislead a bunch of people into spending their money on a festival that they couldn't deliver. That was wrong!

    • @yashsinghal1023
      @yashsinghal1023 Před 3 lety +2

      See i don't know much about the others but I really think Marc was sincere like I could understand why he could have stayed back then , plus remember he was in the production only one month back and was told to allot that no of people , I really don't think he has much of a choice , for him it sounds like a good opportunity and only to allot a certain no of bed especially when he didn't see the camp at least....

  • @tminusnyc2915
    @tminusnyc2915 Před 2 lety +1

    This was a great podcast. Marc seems like a stand up guy.

  • @Ezinma88
    @Ezinma88 Před 5 lety +1

    Great interview.

  • @TheMidasTouch11
    @TheMidasTouch11 Před 5 lety +1

    Great interview!

  • @lisamoses5821
    @lisamoses5821 Před 5 lety +3

    Very informative

  • @JACKINBENCAP
    @JACKINBENCAP Před 5 lety +16

    What happened to the bucket of keys?

  • @tinystarProductions
    @tinystarProductions Před 5 lety

    Fantastic episode!!

  • @ki2the2nd
    @ki2the2nd Před 5 lety +6

    Cool interview. Funny to find out Marc has a similar background as me (corporate banking) before going into events production.

  • @remuslovegood6666
    @remuslovegood6666 Před 5 lety +5

    I enjoyed listening

  • @brandonlee93
    @brandonlee93 Před 8 měsíci

    Excellent interview. I used to throw raves back in the day and I can relate, albeit not on the scale Fyre was on…thankfully. I never made a dime, usually broke even. I did it for the love of the scene and the music and to try to give people a good time. Had a so called friend at the time who would take credit for those events behind my back while simultaneously never lifting a finger to do the dirty work. One of the parties went south and wouldn’t you know it. That so called friend flipped a 180 and said it wasn’t his party after telling everyone it was. There’s conmen left and right in the entertainment industry, no matter the size.

  • @pktheviking
    @pktheviking Před 3 lety +1

    Good all around interview.

  • @begonafernandez4
    @begonafernandez4 Před 5 lety +3

    This guy knows what he is talking about, he continued working with them because deep inside him he wanted to believe he was working with professionals! Please, follow your intuition not your hopes!!

  • @TheJaybrone
    @TheJaybrone Před 5 lety +26

    If they had just waited till Fyre was actually a working web program they could have had both the time and the capital to do this.

    • @77Avadon77
      @77Avadon77 Před 5 lety +13

      Or why not just throw small parties in clubs to gain attention for the app. Something like that is definitely much easier to do and do repeatedly successfully. Why choose the hardest type of Festival in the most remote place possible for your first unveiling. Totally stupid. The worst thing is that he's not even a good con artist

    • @jjfiend
      @jjfiend Před 5 lety +3

      TheJaybrone they rushed all of the wrong things and started waaay too late

    • @9melissal
      @9melissal Před 4 lety +6

      Because he was already millions in debt from ticket scams for his credit card app and he needed the profits and notoriety from the festival to pay it back and fund and propel the Fyre website.

  • @michaelblair1582
    @michaelblair1582 Před 5 lety +10

    Fascinating discussion. Marc should go on Joe Rogan as well. Would be a fantastic podcast.

  • @Lalop0p
    @Lalop0p Před 5 lety +4

    Link to GoFundMe pages???

  • @kadeen876
    @kadeen876 Před 3 lety +1

    This kinda helped to bring some of the missing pieces together

  • @ncthriller4465
    @ncthriller4465 Před 5 lety +14

    i dont see how the app was viable in the first place....im curious as to when they intended on actually turning a profit. festival or no festival. hanging out with jarule isnt a business model. aside from investor capital, how much did they actually make? while watching the netflix doc. it seemed like a bunch of kids playing big board member with other peoples money.

    • @SwitcherooU
      @SwitcherooU Před 5 lety +2

      None of the numbers ever added up, EVER, in any of Billy's ventures. Tickets for Fyre were $500-12,000, and they sold 6,000 of them. Even if all those people spent $5,000 on their tickets and each put another $5,000 on that fucking bracelet (what a fucking scam THAT was), that's nowhere near enough money to be paying $6m for sushi and Indian cuisine, let alone for booking and building villas. Why did so many people dump money into this?

    • @muchograndeyolatengo
      @muchograndeyolatengo Před 5 lety +4

      Yeah. I don't get all of these business people calling (and still calling) the app genius. How do you scale an app like that? The market must be extremely small and even if it isn't there must be a limit of c-celebrities willing to prostitute themselves and only one place they can be at any time.

  • @tuduff
    @tuduff Před 4 lety +4

    Is only me or someone else is thinking how to make this event happen in a different way? Someone please make the fyre festival game

  • @That1Guy
    @That1Guy Před 5 lety +6

    "its a great concept"

  • @stormrhode2330
    @stormrhode2330 Před 10 měsíci

    This poor dude even sounded exhausted. Haha
    I remember learning about this event a while back when my brother played me the Internet Historian video explaining it. Wild stuff.
    Also, I keep my phone in the other room when I sleep. The challenge is convincing anyone else to do the same. 😮‍💨

  • @AnhNguyen-fj5yp
    @AnhNguyen-fj5yp Před 5 lety +1

    20:40 did he talked about Music Midtown ?

  • @24chataway
    @24chataway Před 5 lety +2

    REEEALLY rate Marc.
    Totally Genuine
    Totally Honest
    TOTALLY HUMBLE!

  • @Nerevar5me
    @Nerevar5me Před 2 lety +4

    I’ve seen so many articles written about the insidious and manipulative nature of social media like Marc talks about at 1:10:50.

  • @raineyj560
    @raineyj560 Před 5 lety +10

    If they bring back CD walkmans, I can do without my phone for a day. I need my music😊

    • @jonhelmer8591
      @jonhelmer8591 Před 5 lety +4

      Get a walkman radio, it also means you'll step out of your comfort zone and listen to someone else's playlist

    • @raineyj560
      @raineyj560 Před 5 lety

      @@jonhelmer8591 sounds doable. I love all types of music

    • @nakmuay7705
      @nakmuay7705 Před 5 lety +1

      just found mine! hooray xmas '97!

    • @raineyj560
      @raineyj560 Před 5 lety

      @@nakmuay7705 😊😊😊

  • @ion1992
    @ion1992 Před 3 lety +4

    Day 1 Woodstock ,1969 Friday, August 15 to Saturday, August 16
    Richie Havens
    Swami Satchidananda
    Sweetwater
    Bert Sommer
    Tim Hardin
    Ravi Shankar
    Melanie
    Arlo Guthrie
    Joan Baez
    Day 2 Woodstock 1969 Saturday, August 16 to Sunday, August 17
    Quill
    Country Joe McDonald
    Santana
    John Sebastian
    Keef Hartley Band
    The Incredible String Band
    Canned Heat
    Mountain
    Grateful Dead
    Creedence Clearwater Revival
    Janis Joplin and the Kozmic Blues Band
    Sly & the Family Stone
    The Who
    Jefferson Airplane
    Day 3 Woodstock 1969 Sunday, August 17 to Monday, August 18
    Joe Cocker and the Grease Band
    Country Joe and the Fish
    Ten Years After
    The Band
    Johnny Winter
    Blood, Sweat & Tears
    Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
    Paul Butterfield Blues Band
    Sha Na Na
    Jimi Hendrix
    You seriously have to reconsider your thoughts before even bringing Woodstock Fest into this. Its like comparing Woodstock musicians to Fyre Festival Musicians

  • @LadyLawyerG
    @LadyLawyerG Před 5 lety +7

    Interesting how folks who caused or participated in the disastrous event wanted to continue to profit off of it . Im.glad too hear a few folks stepping up to give back or repay $$$$ to workers/contractors. But the name dropping 🤔🤔🤨

  • @mario10zeus
    @mario10zeus Před 2 lety +1

    Marc makes good point and a lot of things now makes sense, I was skeptical initially. Now if I were him, I would've left as soon as I see how sketchy Billy was acting as the fallout could affect his career too.

  • @yudivazquez1296
    @yudivazquez1296 Před 5 lety +5

    Marc is fine.

  • @kadeen876
    @kadeen876 Před 3 lety +6

    Hmmm I thought Mary-Ann said her friend set up the GoFundMe and then tried to get her to sign a contract to give her half or nothing. Mary-Ann said she contacted GoFundMe and told them to send the donations back and they worked with her to get her the funds and that’s how she was able to recoup and pay some of the labourers. Marc’s account of this is quite questionable

  • @kushtrimskenderi8381
    @kushtrimskenderi8381 Před 5 lety +7

    smh I just notice you have a visual version of this after I finished listening

  • @77Avadon77
    @77Avadon77 Před 5 lety +6

    Normally I do not attribute malice where only ignorance is suspected. However after watching this I feel confirmed that Billy was trying to do the minimum that he could to appear as if he tried to pull the festival off even though this was just a total fraudulent scam with no intention of ever living up to the expectation of what was promised.

    • @SarelleSirius
      @SarelleSirius Před 2 lety +1

      This is a huge possibility. At first I thought he wouldn’t have flown a bunch of people out there if it was a scam because at that point he wasn’t getting more money from them. However, he could have flown everyone out specially to be able to argue that it wasn’t a scam.

    • @doroparker1702
      @doroparker1702 Před 2 lety

      Everyone who booked a ticket did not think it over.
      A music festival is crowded.
      Think of a Billie Eilish concert.
      Luxury? Lonesome beach?
      Hahaha, not possible.
      There is no privacy and there is no lonely space.
      So it can only be either or the other.

  • @ckotcher1
    @ckotcher1 Před 2 lety +1

    What a beautiful man

  • @yzwme586
    @yzwme586 Před 5 lety +5

    just from a logistics stand point how did anyone not see this train wreck coming? how are you going to fly out 10000 people via PRIVATE PLANE to a small island in the bahamas? I saw this coming a mile away

    • @woodyhorton8537
      @woodyhorton8537 Před 2 lety

      Fly them to a bigger island then onto a fleet of boats maybe lol

  • @thomasmills339
    @thomasmills339 Před 5 lety +1

    The equipment was " compounded " fucking genius.

  • @79narz
    @79narz Před 5 lety +4

    This is a coup, a Rogen caliber guest (based on current affairs) on mind pump.

  • @raineyj560
    @raineyj560 Před 5 lety +2

    That social media book tho.

  • @JoyLearnSallay
    @JoyLearnSallay Před 9 měsíci

    Even still, you CAN give Billy that much credit...for sociopathy, absolutely. He would rather scorch earth it, than take a personal hit. So who do you want to be here at the end? Not those folks! Thanks for this, and good luck further to you Weinstein, et al....

  • @olguiq1013
    @olguiq1013 Před 2 lety

    Honestly... I WOULD HAVE WALKED AWAY!!

  • @antoniovalencia9041
    @antoniovalencia9041 Před 5 lety +3

    Honest man!!!

  • @danieldixon7660
    @danieldixon7660 Před 4 lety +4

    WHERE'S JAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!🤣🤣

  • @TheBloodyMaryBro
    @TheBloodyMaryBro Před 5 lety

    We need pod sponsorship

  • @Trid3nt861
    @Trid3nt861 Před 3 lety +4

    I could see this event falling flat on its face once I saw the ad...
    Ja Rule and Billy Mcfarlane should be in jail for this

  • @biancadesousa
    @biancadesousa Před 3 lety +5

    i don’t feel bad for anyone except the workers at the island.

  • @bhusar1
    @bhusar1 Před 5 lety +4

    Um no, No comparison to Woodstock. First, Woodstock wasn’t sold as a luxury event. Only 2 people died at Woodstock, one was run over by a tractor that the person was sleeping under and the farmer didn’t know, another was a drug overdose. They also had music planned. They had acts lined up all set to play, Fyre didn’t. The organizers also made consideration for the safety of the people like providing food and getting with the Hog Farm members to set up a bad trips tent for people having bad acid trips and also having them provide food with brown rice and granola when the concessions ran out.

  • @jamespeterson8482
    @jamespeterson8482 Před 2 lety

    Loved the podcast but “being in bit coin” is like saying “I’m in federal reserve notes.” What’s does that mean? It means that your working for a venture capital firm that is “long” on bitcoin.

  • @JacklynCunningham
    @JacklynCunningham Před 5 lety +1

    honestly, what would be my life without technology? I wake up, study on my laptop for an hour WHILE listening to podcasts, ( because our generation always has to be doing multiple things at once). then I go to class, where I'm on my laptop again,, then I come home, probably watch a few youtube videos while I relax and eat, then spend the rest of my day again on my laptop writing reports and studying for school. Probably when I'm finished I'd use technology less

    • @heidiheaux7007
      @heidiheaux7007 Před 3 lety +2

      I’d love to know your GPA, “studying” like that. Listening to music is one thing, but listening to a podcast requires focus, which means you can’t fully focus on your books/notes.

  • @MrPagnito
    @MrPagnito Před 5 lety +6

    You guys should really change that intro...

  • @jayman327
    @jayman327 Před 4 lety +1

    20:00 Imagine Music Festival

  • @richieadams6701
    @richieadams6701 Před 5 lety +1

    Everyone complaining about the first 25 minutes NOT being what the title says are probably the same people that actually went to the fucking fyre festival!

  • @shadygrove91204
    @shadygrove91204 Před 5 lety +8

    Fact-check : At 20 minutes, he's talking about Tomorrowworld 2015 and he understates the attendance at ~30,000. The attendance was WAY more at actually ~190,000 with 40,000 of those staying in on-site camping. The size of the crowd was a big factor into why SFX's stocks tanked to $0.01, and finally bankrupt.
    I'm about to listen to the rest of this and no doubt will find more that this kid doesn't really know what he's talking about.

    • @FlyPsiche
      @FlyPsiche Před 5 lety

      Of course he doesn't, you must be pretty stupid to remain on the boat if a week before the luxury event there where no toilets, tents and stages. He been hustling to find houses around the village until the last minute.
      BUT he's still funny to hear the shamble unfolding

    • @elizabethfricker2247
      @elizabethfricker2247 Před 5 lety

      They say 190k but they don't say that it's 190k UNIQUE attendees. I always wonder how many individual people went as opposed to counting the 40k campers as 120k for going all three days. But yeah, it was still a shitshow the last year with all the mud. I went all three years and it was one of the best festivals ever. I wish it would come back but I understand why that's not really possible. I have heard from several people in the industry that a lot of pieces for the stages are still in storage here in GA.

  • @grainofsalt4934
    @grainofsalt4934 Před 3 lety +1

    Isn’t it strange how similar Billy looks like Seth McFarland

  • @commanderrussels2612
    @commanderrussels2612 Před 5 lety +7

    Wow Mind Pump Radio is really good at not asking the tough questions. What a bunch of wimps. "Oohhh yeah, I can totally see how that happens now that you explain to me that you were just at your computer on the island" lol

  • @MyKombucha
    @MyKombucha Před 2 lety +4

    44:50 and 47:10 Founder + 5 core Fyre Festival organizers. The douche bags behind the project. 48:45 all but one (who was hyperventilating into a paperbag... (Note: I'm dying, lol) gone by the time the festival starts.

  • @kerrajohnson3203
    @kerrajohnson3203 Před 5 lety +2

    *Your usual techie/marketing hipster.*
    *He's cute tho. Is he Spanish?*

  • @Kamarca
    @Kamarca Před 5 lety +1

    Marc is a great guy and interview subject!

  • @kobygrimes1234
    @kobygrimes1234 Před 5 lety +1

    Fucking awesome podcast

  • @Juniper122
    @Juniper122 Před 5 lety +7

    MARC IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CUTE

  • @Platypus2012
    @Platypus2012 Před 3 lety

    One person died at Woodstock from a tractor accident during setup.

  • @LouKessler
    @LouKessler Před 5 lety +9

    This didn't really add anything new to the documentaries, except that Marc doesn't think Billy is a genius.

  • @asmrcity3147
    @asmrcity3147 Před 5 lety +50

    Geez he’s hot

  • @widescreennavel
    @widescreennavel Před 2 lety +2

    All of life is just a way to get people to buy liquor. A restaurant sells liquor, not food, for profit.