How the survival of modern Ukraine doomed Putin's 'Greater Russia' | Nick Lloyd
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- čas přidán 31. 03. 2024
- Putin's aim to recreate Russia's pre-1914 empire has floundered in Ukraine says Historian Nick Lloyd explaining the history of the Eastern Front in WW1 and its historical role in bringing about war in Ukraine.
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I could listen to him talk about history all day long. Fantastic interview.
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Yes! Fantastic interview I will go immediately to my room and contemplate my for skin.😮
@@terencehurst8636 I'll bet your good at it plenty of practice an all that
Thanks.
Glory to Ukraine. God Bless Ukraine and her people. 🇺🇦🇺🇸
Ukraine is just as corrupt as Russia. Russia is definitely corrupt, but so is Ukraine.
UKRAINE 💪💜💛
RUSSIA
After WWI and WWII, Britain OWED The USA under 'The Lend Lease" Agreement.
The "Loans" for both world wars was finally repaid around 1998/99.
HOW and WHEN is the 'modern Ukraine" going to REPAY Taxpayers from
Australia
The European Union.
ALL EU Member States.
NATO Member States
AND more... ?
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CRUX
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Times Radio
Sky News
Sky News Australia.... the list goes on !!!
"The Industrial Censorship Complex"
"The Orwellian Algorithmic Justice"
US Oversight Committee Hearings.
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Slava Ukraini!
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Brilliant interview. Very interesting
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Great report, Slava Ukraini
As accurate as their report on the mating cry of a castrated Newt.
Slava Ukraini! 💙💛
A very good historian. He and Prit Butter have done much to shine light on this forgotten conflict.
James as an interviewer goes from strength to strength. Interesting questions put to an interesting and knowledgeable guest. I hope the politicians are paying attention. Military men and the historians are all singing from the same song - Russia will not stop its current course of action until it is stopped.
Dream on.
Great presentation Nick!
Russia still coming to grips with loss of empire.
Ya ok
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I don’t think so my man😜
That is basicly whats going on. They will learn the hard way
Corruption keeps any possible growth down.
I get the feeling that the Russian Federation will fall when Putin dies. There is so much instability. He is literally holding it all together by himself.
Yes - that's the west is in contraction.
Putin is the most obsessed leader of any country since WW II. Obsessed by an assumed great Russia from the past, obsessed to be recognized as a global player, obsessed by Ukraine and obsessed about his legacy.
He's also arguably the one who's seized the most power since ww2
@@AsG_4_ Putin has seized more power than Stalin? ... I don't think so. putin has temporarily seized Crimea and a little land Ukraine left to rot and wither away..like Donbass.
@@AsG_4_Speaking about Biden or Netanyahu?
And he looks to be rather savvy, already having the USA in his pocket and playing the politicians there like a fiddle (just thinking about MAGA Mike and Trump as two of the puppet masters achievements). He hasn't got far with his war in Ukraine just yet but has already shown the USA to be be the weak-link, unreliable and without credibility to continue as a leader of the free-world: One of his goals almost completely achieved. Xi is probably watching closely and rubbing his hands in glee while signing off the next invasion plans which are going to seriously hurt America economically and potentially in terms of American sons' blood.
Totally agree 👍
The crescent of countries that border Russia are where the worst wars are fought.
The Geographer Mackinder and later Spykman describes this region as the Rimland that surrounds the Russian Heartland
Britain is mercifully in the outer Maritime crescent.
Petr Pavel Czech President seems to have started a COLLECTIVE SECURITY agreement that incorporates all the countries from Norway to Ukraine ....the Arctic to the Black Sea ...Scandanavia + Eastern Europe ..a new power bloc ?
Norway has $1,626 BILLION in its wealth fund. Putin has 150 bn at most.
Too bad mackinder didn't understand that the waters and skies were more important than the land
@@AsG_4_ Revenge of Geography ...Robert Kaplan....(Russia chapter...predicted all this pre 2014)
RUSSIA'S FUTURE WITHOUT PUTIN!
Russia has got like 140 million of putins. They're covered.
It has to loose not only Putin, but also its imperial mentality.
@@mimisor66Excessive nationalism is a horrible Russian disease.
Ypu lot be like Times Radio: Have you got any spare change please?
@@DarrenJamiesonJamiesonIs that joke supposed to be funny?
Times radio you are a blatant instrument of power . Propagada kings
Don't we mean RT? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
"The Soviet understands one word; Action...respects only one word; Force." Dean Acheson.
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
The very fact that you think we're still up against the soviets speaks volumes in its own right. You folks never stood a chance in this thing...
@@operator9858don't know Russia do you
@@operator9858 Okay buddy
@@michaeldunham3385 you are talking about the soviets that havent been around since the 19th century and 'i' dont know anything about them? Go have a juice box and a nap son.
@@operator9858 the 19th century??? History obviously isn't your thing.
You don't understand how many Russians view the Soviet Union in particular Putin who said the collapse of the Soviet Union was “the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.”
So rather trying to be clever which you're obviously not by belittling people who obviously have a far greater understanding of Russia don't bother commenting on something you know nothing about.
USA stay the course with Ukraine 🇺🇦
Putin is the man.🇷🇺
I'm still wondering what really necessitated this war!! barbarism or bullying???
Russians' sense of impunity and the belief that they were very strong while Ukrainians were very weak. It was supposed to be a walk in the park.
Imperialist dreams of a war mongerer . Putin thought it would be a second Crimea .. zelensky would flee , ukriane forces would stand aside and any resistance would be met with mass deportation to siberia ..
Mother of miscalculations by putin
@@Viktor-gk5ri yea! and it's very sad because innocent people are killed everyday for one man's madness
@kevantautsagae8984 mark my words, when putin is gone (it's gonna happen one day coz he's a human being after all), NOTHING is gonna change in russia. There'll be putin 2.0 aftwr him.
Greed!
Really interesting! I love the indepth analysis and understanding of today based on past
Sounds pretty hollow when the Ukraine is losing every day
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The difference between the Austro - Hungarian empire and the Russian empire, is that the constituent parts/subjugated peoples were approximately the same size as either the Austrians, or Hungarians, who themselves are different in language, ethnicity, etc.
The Russians were and are the largest single (by far) ethnic group in the Russian empire, then, and now.
Wait aren't there many indigenous groups within Russia such as Buryats and Tajiks and Chechens all of who Russia considers part of their empire. Who are Russians, ethnically? As if that has any real meaning.
I for one have been learning a lot about the how culturally diverse Russia is and about the hidden indigenous peoples have been exploited to feed the bank accounts of the wealthy in Moscow and St Petersburg.
Russia was 50% of the USSR, which did not include the duchy of warsaw etc.
Britain just cant get over the fact that it became an irrelevant peon of Washington. Britain lost the "great game", Russia prevailed.
You should put chapters in the video to make it easier to skip the intro.
Ukrainian mentality give hope for all occupied states of the Russian “federation” . Push back a d stop feeding the Moscow octopus that gorges on the resources of its occupied territories
Yeah,switch to the united snake.
@@babuvangu7220 They don't need to switch to anything...they are sovereign country. Poland, the Baltics, Hungary, and many more thrived when they left the USSR.
@@babuvangu7220not clevet. Try facts
@@thinkerly1Very simple fact especially for you. Ukraine will never win.
@stevebusfield199 Poland and Hungary were never in the USSR 😂
The political system in UK is rotten 😂😂😂😂
Do we prefer Russian style elections where the winner is known in advance?
What an Amazing individual, wish are politicians were half as intelligent as Nick Lloyd . He truly understand what are politicians can not it seems. Wish I could afford to send them his book.
Very interesting, especially comment about how russia cannot be great state without Ukraine shows very deep understanding by the speaker
He doesn’t understand anything just like you.
Russians view Ukraine and Belarus as one of their own states. Like the relationship between any Russian city or province to Moscow. To let go of these two states for Russians it's hard pill to swallow.
Russia is racing towards a million casualties
if you say so.. 🙄 keep believing the propaganda
@@MylesJoshAre you talking in front of a mirror?
@@fidenemini111 ‘Myles’ is a Russo-fascist troll who has a tattoo of Putin on his chest 😂
Russians will never be forgiven by the people whose countries they occupied and destroyed!!!…NEVER!!!😢
The Ukrainians report just under half a million Russian “eliminated personnel” as of early April. So total casualties of a million isn’t inconceivable even allowing for Ukrainian exaggeration, whether inadvertent or not. A casualty is not the same as a death.
Slavia Ukraini ♥️ 🇺🇦 stop Putin's impearalisim
Great combination inferior complex with a feeling of superiority.
Must be rather confusing.
@@stephenhill545 Not on unusual combination. In many police forces it’s the top requirement for recruitment.
This guy, Nick Lloyd seems well informed
As well informed as a Newt.
Putin's greater Russia is at totally depending on the years you are looking at. Before 1700 "Russia" was only an unimportant area somewhere around the region where Moskov is situated nowadays. And all countries like Lithuania, Poland, Brandenburg, Prussia, Hungary, Austria and earlier Macedonia, Greece etc are much more of importance in the easten European regions highly above the "Empire of Russia" which more or less started with "Iwan the Great"
Before 1700 USA were where exactly?
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Julius Caesar had the same mentality towards Briton. Thankfully Times Radio are nothing like that.
@@bojanm986 Reflexive whataboutery to a pretty neutral post. It's automatic for you guys, whatabout, whatabout, whatabout...
@@alka7145 "whatabout" is that Russia was unimportant country before 1700. What the f...k is that statement? Logical, proof, evidence, common sence. It's just pathetic statement of idiotic mind. So, my question's aim was to show what big nonsense is this comment.
The book is very important in showing the differing stages of World War I. I think Professor Loyd might have concentrated more on how many Central and European leaders saw the war as giving them a great opportunity giving the fighting meaning. Poland after all rose from the ashes and endured even the later cataclysms, The Baltic peoples established states in which their national cultures arose and could not be erased by the Soviets. Ukrainians came out of the war striving to set up a national state across the old borders and Moscow agreed to the Soviet formation as a reaction to Ukrainian resistance to Bolshevik rule.
What makes security situation in Europe very-very perilous is Europe, Nick.
Are those "russian" loses russian? Or loses of the Russian Imperial Army which included other nationalities?
How about the civilians in Dresden? None was killed there, right?
The stalemate is in the western governments - not in Ukraine.
Thanks for an insightful interview. In this and historic context, looking forward, hoping to see the plans of the allies to end the war, come to fruition. The Russian people certainly may not want to embrace a second “Versailles”.
He wants to revive the Soviet Union which is impossible..
It beggars belief why any Russians would want to die for this little man
He makes them feel that Russia is strong, i.e. the state is strong, not them. They dont actually understand the notion of a strong civil society and the state's role being to improve the lives of the people.
@@stephenhill545 all that money being spent on the war could of been spent on the well being of the
@@stephenhill545 of the people but they seem to like the life they have being oppressed.
A very confusing headline (on the picture) suggesting, it seemed, that Ukraine is doomed yet the interviewee seems to say the opposite. Can you check this up please.
-funny how Ukraine became a democracy and russia became a fascist state
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Go and get help from your GP.
It takes one to know one.
@@terencehurst8636 -sorry im pagan 😎
-but on March 22nd, do you think isis was just trying to denazify moscow???
What a bizarre situation! Russia? What do we mean by Russia? Many cultural/ethnic/ financial differences. Who are the proud and superior Russians, when SOOOOO much of 'Russia' is STILL living in desperate poverty whilst a few of their elites have grabbed all the resources to themselves. Russia seems to be a nation at war within itself and definitely with its own ego and elite paranoia. Whole nation of disfunctional demographics where NOT all of the 145 million population are culturally 'Russian'. Putin poses as superior but is infact paranoid about civil conflict more than is paranoia about imaginary attacks from the west. All that confusion can only cause internal disaster. Slava Ukraine
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The battlefield in Ukraine has degenerated into trench warfare because neither side has the strength and skill to do anything else.
Correction: Ukraine has the skills. They just don't have the equipment.
Hardly, they didn't accomplish much in summer 2023. Their lack of skill and coordination created a Leopard and Bradley park. Then they gave up on NATO tactics entirely and reverted back to the tactics they were using before and ever since. 🤷🏻♂
@@HermSezPlayToWin no planes,
Young James seems to be taking a stance of a semi-expert and a book critic as well. He lacks the academic stature to be both but is fed by the material Times Radio chooses to churn out.
Maybe when he is appropriately qualified he may take such a stance but would certainly not be working for TR.
If his ambitions are in journalism then better research is a skill he will need and, again, TR is not good soil in which to thrive. As he is personable and articulate perhaps a spell in on-the-spot research and reporting will put him in the same category of some of Britain's great, solid journalists, especially as the greats have passed away or are now very old. Good luck to him.
Re the click bait title, Dr Lloyd's work or comments here are congruent with it.
Some of Dr Lloyd's ideas in his many books and papers are thought provoking and he is largely correct the eastern front in WW1 being an area of ignorance for too many of us in 'the west'.
He is right that war did not end suddenly in 1918. My own grandfather had been in Flanders and expected to go home after the armistice but was instead sent, as part of a mix of Scottish and English regiments to the Balkans, middle east and Caucasus in un-sung continuations of strife partly related to what became known as the civil war in Russia after Lenin took power. Brits and Commonwealth experienced men were needed to be buffers against 'warlords' filling power gaps and resuming old scores lasting from over a century before. Dr Lloyd can wake us all up to what happened and how the Sykes-Picot Agreement cost the world the chance of having a possibly settled Arabia with the breaking up of the Ottoman empire. My grandfather ended his service being posted to Egypt alongside French counterparts at Suez not long after TE Lawrence had started to make his way home via Syria. The joint troops were then moved to Trieste where they got bored and went home via a badly mauled Italy.
These aspects of the WW1 period and beyond need airing.
However, Dr Lloyd is at least as simplistic as V Putin (from after 22 minutes in) by failing to mention the Decemberists, the 1905 damp squib Russian revolution and how a 'Tsarist mentality' was an probably is how the peoples of a conjoined massive area which was only an empire when that word was fashionable through the 19th century and beyond.
The Bolsheviks did not win anything, merely replacing a royal line with a bureaucratic one but, to a Russian "comrade" from Vladivostok to Odesa the Tsar concept is convenient as someone to blame yet have powers to mobilize when Mother Russia is threatened.
Religion was supposedly banned under Marxian doctrine yet people still attended churches or improvised ones in some cases, then after Stalin when the CP was supposedly in charge, to the people it was just somebody (occasionally in pairs) in Moscow.
Dr Lloyd would have had to acknowledge that Russia since about 2010 has been expanding production east and not vying with China but being part of the Eurasian market developing into the biggest ever seen, including India, South East Asia after recovery from US failures and horrors in Cambodia to a point which has made the 'west' just another economic zone but no longer the top one. Russia's immense resources and transport system do not just make a part of China's initial notion of the BRI but essential to new 'silk roads' and it has the Arctic routes as well doing very nicely with input from Japan and China calling itself a "near Arctic state".
The 20th century model 'west' with its "rules based order" of trading (= restrictive) has to accept that true free trade is happening and it is crossing Africa and to South America. The term "global south" is clumsy but means south and east and west, just not necessarily the USA.
In this context it is explicable why Russia's central and eastern populations are rising and a large proportion of incomers are from over Russia's southern borders.
If the USA, EU and our dear UK want to prosper in proportion to all in their populations they need to understand how trade is the antithesis of war, where traders do not expect everyone to be the same in faiths, governance styles and cultures.
Yes, be able to defend ones people but huge military mechanisms used for "projection" are so passé and the biggest never had the right to interfere and make up wars to fight, losing every single one.
Ukrainians will thrive through hard work alongside neighbours without undercutting but the areas and types of governance regions on the map by next Easter could be surprising. No more weapons but help with rebuilding, each state according to its means.
Are you trying to say that you support Putin's invasion of Ukraine?
I thought Ukraine was declared as a country in 1917.
If he is for pre 1914 Russia, he has to also recognize all other countries have same boarders as of 1914…he wants only RU to claim, and rejects others to do so…Armenia had different size at 1914, and Russia was the one who gave part of Armenia to Turkey…💔💔💔💔💔💔
Russians tend to forget that Lenin himself was a German plot lol
'Russians' (whatever they are) do not realise that Lenin was not 'Russian'.
Putun is quite satisfied with the Nation of Russia.
Yeah because the people are poor
@@michaeldunham3385Like in UK or worse.
@@alexanderlazarev3570 spoken of course by someone who hasn't been to Russia and quite possibly not the UK
@@michaeldunham3385 Gosh, you just need to look through the Channel 4 programs and that's enough.
They will always tell their Master exactly what he want to hear
Ypres ….. my relatives called the street by the same name “Wipers.” 😂. However, NOT FUNNY after all. 😢
This clip will not age well.
Meanwhile the meatgrinder is getting filled with ukrainian soldiers. Get real
From the military perspective, you have been talking about manoeuvre, high tempo, precision because you have not fought a peer opponent since WW2, Nick. A historian should have a better grasp of this. But I guess he does redeem himself on this by saying that this is what a real war looks like.
And cui bono was ww 2 that was even prolonged?
*How come this guy and no one understands, that you have to present another world history to the Russians ?*
And just what happens if ukraine 'doesnt' survive in the end?
They will
@@michaeldunham3385Are you so sure, the reality contradicts you.
@@michaeldunham3385 not with this government they will not and whats left is going to be a heck of a lot smaller and if they lose access to the black sea they are done as an independent state.
Interesting view. The war never ended in the East. What does this mean for Germany? The coup d Etat by blowing Nordstrom 2 might introduce an interesting playbook. Russia is always been afraid of Germany. A much better insight now is given then by the demographics theory of Peter Zeihan
This is a laughable rendition of anglosphere projection and propaganda
Slava Botkraini
The nonsense over at Times Radio continues a pace.
When will historians include the contribution of Black Men and Women in both WW I and WW II who gave their LIVES, BLOOD, SWEAT and TEARS to liberate Western Europeans from Facism in Europe? Just asking - on account of the fact that I am interested in history...
They get the occasional mention
So we went from a review of a book about ww1 to current propaganda...
Don't like the way he characterises the 'creation' of Ukraine by some kind of treaty. Kiev and different groups round about have always fought for their independence, mostly from Russia but Bolsheviks, the Whites, the French, the Poles and anarchists have all had a go at dominating the area. The Ukrainian spirit is remarkable for its tenacity and persistence and at very least Ukraine needs to be allowed some peace and non interference, especially from its northern neighbours.
@@gundissalinus Oh yes of course, Kaliningrad belongs to Germany, Alaska belongs to Russia, Ireland belongs to England, along with Canada, Australia, Singapore etc. Borodyanka, Bucha and Mariopol have put paid to any Russian claims on Ukraine - forever. Waken up.
Ukraine is just name! But the same Slavs original as all Slavs but who is khazars ‼️‼️
What an absolute BS.
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British are always obsessed with speaking about other's failures and rarely looks to reflect and articulate clearly and confidently what it has done wrong. Obsessed with learning lessons and never learning them or learning them and then forgetting to make a concrete conclusion so as to have a blueprint for the future. Nations and their people are generally not good at this.Look in the mirror and stop judging other people and nations. But at the same time, it's always curious how they are obsessed with Russia and orientalism in general, actually same as the French. It's quite funny because Russia hates the west especially Great Britain and USA, the "Axis of Anglo-Saxons", but the British, French and German will always have a love affair with Russia.
Russian public have had enough
How do you know.
More CIA propaganda 😂😂😂😂
Look at this repeating Trump. Peace through strength lol
You know, you know.....................What a poor command oif the English language!
Putin and Zelenskyy are of Bolsheviks dynasty! Bolsho means majority of gov communist were Jews‼️
SLAVA KOKAINA !!!!!!
How's that hate, botski?
Can you get facts before broadcasting. START from coldwar era and move towards today. By the way where did you graduate from!😫
Scunthorpe University.
Putin got an empire too? 😂 i
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Copium
Delusional
When you mention Russia, I assume you also mean Ukraine ?
No, we mean Ukraine. It's not the same country as Russia (as most sane people believe).
😁absolutely hilarious
Laughing at your own joke? Why don't you tell it us too?
Nice propaganda piece. You are looking more delusional as each week goes by, people are looking elsewhere for the truth now.
There is a really annoying high pitched audio noise in this video. Not sure if anyone else is experiencing this?
The stock gapped up a few days ago. Gaps always close. shareholders should have sold after the gap up, but I wouldn't buy again yet if I was in that situation. IMO, not much difference here than with a penny stock.
Putin NEVER mentioned a greater Russia but he did insist upon a smaller ukraine with no nazis .
This is a vast difference .you appear to beleive that russia is still a stalinist state
Russia (Putin) still sees Stalin as a great leader, and the false claim that Russia won WWII. Putin and his propagandists talk about attacking the NATO countries, If that not a dream of Empire, then it is their goal.
Putin said Russia has no borders. The far right party in Ukraine received less than 1% of the vote in the previous election, look up Ruscism if you want to see what modern day fascism looks like. You can pretend Putin doesn't have delusions of empire if you want just don't expect anyone to take you serious.
Kremlin spokespersons and Kremlin controlled state media staunchly and repeatedly push for imperial expansion, genocide and ethnic cleansing. Reasonable to assume that Putin is aware of this rhetoric.
Putin is a Stalinist. His ideology is Alexandrian and Stalinist. His methodology is Hitlerian.
HEY!LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO BRITISH EMPIRE "SUN FINALLY SET"!
How's that Russian Empire, Ivan? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
All empires have their day, Russias is coming soon and this has only accelerated that.
Another amateur pseudo-historian
Tell people how many Russians died in ww2 fighting on the soil they fight now , they suffered mass losses and they having the same thing happen again now ( thing is today they suffer more losses because they avoid civilian deaths ) . Russia has enough firepower to wipe out Ukraine out but that means mass deaths ( non nuclear ) . Russia could make Gaza look like an amateur battle but we don’t see that , more the opposite.
What a nonsense 🤦♂️ . Cities like Bakhmut, Avdiivka, Severodonetsk, etc, look like Gaza. Mariupol suffered a lot as well, but russiasns are trying to make a showcase out of it, so they build sth there. If they could quickly turn Ukraine into one big ruin w/o nukes, they would have done. However, they can't coz the russian bear turned out to be not as strong as it was pretending to be.
@@Viktor-gk5ri what was built in maruipol was built by Russians and destroyed by Russians , now it’s being rebuilt again by Russians . Funny you say maruipol as it’s mostly a russian city . They kicked out Ukraine army for a year in 2014 and azov went in a year later . Am all for Russia acting like nato who killed 1.2 million civilians in the last conflict , am sick of idiots like yourself who doesn’t recognise russians don’t target civilians unlike Ukraine
@@Viktor-gk5ri why do military analysts say “ Russia can take Ukraine by non nuclear means in two days , all it needs to do is not care for civilians “
@@pauldean8638analysts will say anything for a dollar. You know enough to understand you know nothing.
@@pauldean8638stupid !
More garbage. Never anything but on this channel. Zero basis in truth or reality or sanity.
So why are you here? Just want to support them with a view and help with the algorithm by commenting?
Vatnik troll? Or just another "university of life" cockwomble
‘Gary Winter’ has no content 😂
Unfortunately, Ukraine is also doomed by Russia.
Ooooooh, we are soooooo scared. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
@@boink800when this is over what’s your next project?
@Alex-hu5eg czcams.com/video/7sznANuHiLM/video.html
@@stu281Russia without Putin. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
Unless they can rapidly increase their population growth after they've won the war, I fear you might be right.
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This guys a clown