The Problem With The Premier League’s Money
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The Premier League has grown to become the richest football league in the world, but in doing so it’s created a problem for itself.
It’s wealth is the reason the very best players want to come to the Premier League. But it also means clubs in other countries struggle to buy players from the Premier League. Leading to immovable players and squad stagnation.
How big is the downside of having all the money in the world?
Seb Stafford-Bloor explains, Alice Devine illustrates.
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The problem with the Premier League's money is that they're not spending it on players like Ibrahima Sangare.
😂😂
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
The man, the myth, the legend
RIP to that team’s progressive passing
PSV is planning on selling him for 35 million.... euros, not yen.
That’s why recruitment is revolutionising in the premier league. Starting with the likes of Brighton and Brentford, it’s evident that in an era where almost all premier league clubs have large amounts of financial capital, innovative and strategic recruitment is seemingly essential to gain a competitive advantage and ensure long term success.
It's basic logic
the same was said about southampton and look at where they are now after a few years
Bro do u really think the big six don't have a world class recruitment structure.
The only difference is lesser sides are willing to give raw talent time. The big six can't afford that luxury because they want to win trophies every year.
Therefore they can't risk giving a raw talent time because there is no certainty he will turn out well.
@@colinodere7222so it’s not world class recruiting it’s just world class money?
Brighton and Brentford are what Leicester were 5 years ago, and what Southampton were 10 years ago. They're just anomalies who will eventually go down.
Ironically, as much as many premier league supporters are criticising Saudi Pro league for pulling away players with money (there's an irony in this as well), EPL clubs have to be thankful that Saudi Pro League is the new dumping ground for players whom they don't want but are on relatively high wages. The Saudis can afford those players to improve the quality in their league.
The double edged sword in that is the Premier League will be responsible for building the SPL and making it more attractive for players the Premier League want to buy. Right now the SPL is just a money grab for fading top level players looking for that last big contract. We are starting to see the shift to the SPL being a contract dump to get players off the books. A few years of doing this the SPL's talent level rises. As the talent level rises they become a more attractive alternative to guys who aren't on their last contracts. In 10 years the talent level doubles and the league's profile increases and they become an actual threat. By this time, European clubs are going to get really nervous and in an attempt to control the spending (plus a few well placed bribes) UEFA is going to bring into the fold under the guise of "FFP regulations". At that point the SPL have everything they wanted. A more attractive league, Champions League access and more money and than anyone on the planet. Their strategy is frustratingly brilliant
@@NukeLaCoogx2if the Saudi league somehow would join Uefa in the future they would have to comply with the FFP rules just like everyone else.
The best comment today!!
@@edvins8863so basically not at all😂
@@NukeLaCoogx2and Qatar will have a say too in this matter. PSG (which is quasi Qatar state owned) certainly raise, and lobbying deny Saudi league into UEFA
The Premier League, at times, is a victim of its own financial power.
Over the last decade, it would be interesting to see the ratio of how many big money flops there actually are compared to big money successful transfers.
As a United fan, in the last decade alone, we can name Di Maria, Pogba, Lukaku, Memphis, Van Der Beek, and Maguire. Sancho is almost in that category, and Martial never reached the heights we hoped he would.
Most of these players have either been sold at a loss, their contract has expired, or other teams aren't silly enough to pick up such expensive wages.
I think this says more about Utd currently than those players, right? I mean, what's the common denominator here?
Interestingly for the case of Di Maria, although it didn't work out at all in Man United for him, he still has a relatively successful career in other clubs he joined (especially PSG and Madrid) as well as in the national team.
PL clubs can afford to spend money because they can earn it. Cant say about other leagues.
You forgot the worst of all: Alexi Sanchez.
Sancho isn't almost in that category, he's probably leading it. He's without a doubt the worst wide player I've ever seen at United. He is appalling in every aspect of his game. Moves in slow motion, can't dribble, can't pass, can't tackle and has the worst fitness in the entire team. An absolutely calamitous signing, far worse than other flops like Di Maria and Lukaku
Another problem is that it doesn't necessarily increase the quality of football on display, you just end up paying more for the same players.
Declan Rice going for over £100,000,000 for example.
Not necessarily. A good player in decent team can produce better football. It's a team sport after all.
i agree with you but declan rice isn't a good example.
@@ahmadhesham1389 I don't think that's what he meant. A good player can improve the team beyond simply his direct contribution, sure.
The gist of the argument is just because the Premier League is richer, doesn't mean that the quality of the players available to buy has increased considerably. Only that you now need to pay a lot more to get the same level of talent you got before.
1st world problems. The Rice, Grealish and even Phillips type transfers come with an English tax. Harry Kane will cost much more to a PL team than if he goes to Bayern 4 example.
The PL tax is alive and well.
That isn't the danger I had in mind. I would say the English clubs have forced other major European clubs to take much bigger financial risks just to keep up with the Premier League teams. This has caused the problems at Barcelona and Juventus for example.
This is an interesting viewpoint. I never thought about it from this perspective. Thanks
It's difficult to explain this to an English person, but Barcelona does have money, and they have more revenue than almost all premiere league clubs, the biggest problem is the insanely strict Laliga FFP rules... If these rules existed in the prem, no team will be able to spend as much as they do.
@@moradkhaouda707well said sir,well said.
1st world problems
@@UwU-pk6nv no that is not the reason, Manchester united has almost a billion worth of depth, same applies to most premiere league clubs, 60 transfers were made in Spain this summer, only 7 are registered and can play for the moment, the likes of Bellingham and Gundogan are not registered yet. This isn't a Barcelona issue, this is a league issue. The FFP rules in Spain are a 100 times more strict than England... But English football fans don't care nor do they care to learn. I wouldn't complain too if my league had unlimited money with no FFP to control the clubs.
Who would've thought that eventually PL clubs would buy all well-recruited players for a premium from the other leagues and fill up squads to the point they can't offload the various ones that flopped because they're the only buying market in Europe.
1st world problems, but as a PL fan it feels better being on this side rather than when each transfer window brought fears of losing ur team's star player(s).
Lies again? Problem Solving
@@uncletin6830 apart from top 4 biggest clubs in prem its not impossible at all to still lose your star player every year.
It’s how should be, everyone else supplying the prem
All the other leagues are getting farmed! Their best players are being harvested for the real action in Premier League clubs.
As a Leicester fan we have certainly felt this on both sides, on one side we've managed to get a lot of money for the likes of Fofana, Maguire, Mahrez, Chilwell, etc. Which has helped us invest in a new state of the art training ground & if things went better then a stadium upgrade too. But selling / getting rid of deadwood has been a massive problem for a number of years until we got relegated. It's sad though that there's such an imbalance to the detriment of other leagues & even inside with everyone compared to the top 6, just takes the excitement out of the game for me tbh
I think covid did more damage to Leicester than most teams if u consider the primary owners r travel industry based and the pandemic came with a worldwide travel ban. Aside that they had a very good buy low, sell high strategy to would have kept them in PL 4 a good while.
Those "reasons for a transfer failing" aren't independent of eachother and therefore you can't just statistically multiply them to get to that 53%. If a player is not as good as they thought, the manager won't like them. If they are played out of position then the player won't fit the style.
Which would make the real chance of them succeeding even lower than 50%. However, because people often have a hard time to grasp statistical contexts, Dr. Graham did view them as independent from another to get the point across
That's why it is called independent events in probability.
They were just giving a simplified explanation of how even the most sensible transfers can flop so often. Sure, they're not independent, but those aren't the only 6 reasons and they won't all be at 90% either.
@@jayer. That would not necessarily make the real chance lower than 50%. If all six events would be perfectly correlated, the real chance is 90%.
I viewed the manager not liking them as counting the chance that the manager and the player don't get along on a personal level regardless of play. I think the Lukaku transfer to Chelsea at least at first was evidence of this. Lukaku was actually starting to get into form when that interview came out. Tuchel and the whole fan base were understandably upset by what Lukaku said and he in an instant went from a player who's form was building to a fixture on the bench. Had noting to do with play and everything to do with him not being able to get along with the manager.
I was just talking about this problem yesterday. If Harry Maguire cost United £40m then he would have been sold to West Ham for £25m three weeks ago.
It isn't just that right? Maguire will be on big wages that West Ham would obviously not pay due to lack of an additional European football money....
It's worse if a team abroad wants Maguire...
U forget that Maguire is actually a good player under certain systems. Leicester wouldn't have sold him for 40m and United wanted him then, but sadly 4 him United have moved to another structure. The problem is not transfer amount but current wages. They did the same with David de Gea.
Unlucky MUFC get Maguire.
His talent destroy by money.
Hope he refresh in West Ham.
@@amoghkashyap2695but we are supposedly one of 20 richest clubs
Another issue was created by the change from the European Champlion 'Cup' to 'League'. More games means top clubs have to have bigger squads which forces them to stockpile players that would otherwise have ended up being spread across a wider number of teams, raising the competitiveness of the leagues and making them less able to be dominated by just a few elites.
Good point
If the European champions cup remained exclusive territory for the domestic league champions, wouldn't this problem be worse?
Just asking.
@@lukemclellan2141If you look at the history of the competition, parity has worsened since the UCL expanded
Starting in 1997-98 (when UCL expanded to more than just league winners) in the intervening 25 years, only 10 different teams have won the UCL (2.5 years per different team)
Prior to that, when only domestic league winners were allowed, 21 different teams won over 41 years (~1.95 years per different team)
What this means is that since the UCL expanded to allow multiple entrants from a few leagues (instead of just league winners), then the variety of different UCL winners has shrunk by approximately 22%.
Before the change you had teams like Celtic (a Scottish team winning UCL!), Nottingham Forest, Aston Villa, Hamburger SV, FC Steaua București (a Romanian team winning UCL!), Red Star Belgrade (a Serbian team winning UCL!), Marseille, Borussia Dortmund, as well as multiple Dutch teams winning - Ajax, Feyenoord, and PSV Eindhoven
With the new expanded format, the increased number of teams from “top leagues” and the addition of group states, two-game knockout stages, and consolidated money in the “top leagues” we are never going to see real parity in the UCL again
A lot of this is driven by what the video talks about (consolidated money in only a handful of teams - particularly in the Premier League, plus a couple giants like Bayern, Real Madrid, etc)
And like the commenter above you said, the big clubs are buying talent at an ever increasing rate, leaving scant few quality players for the rest of the teams in the continent
@patrickmccormack3209 I think u r using statistics incorrectly. Just because one puts their head in a hot oven and feet in ice cold water bucket and says on average I feel fine, it doesn't make it so.
@@patrickmccormack3209part of it to is the transfer market has been destroyed as well.
The problem is that ffp doesn’t get enforced. The FA will never dock point from Man City, chelsea, Man U or arsenal who would still stay up just have a bad season but they’ll dock 20 points from a league 2 side who are close to bankruptcy (effectively making sure they go bankrupt)
Arsenal???!
FFP rules are dumb. They were literally created to benefit bigger clubs only. FFP rules prevent smaller clubs from competing against richer clubs due to richer clubs having the advantage to buy world class players meanwhile smaller clubs have to cross their fingers and hope one of their players become a world class player. The beginning years of the premier league was literally all about richer clubs that had a lot of investments from rich men. But as soon as soon a rich Arab guy invests his money in City, suddenly FFP rules need to be “enforced”? People forget that money doesn’t simply buy players, money helps improve academies, scouting and institutions.
Geez this comment needs more likes. Fair play mate, preach that truth!
@@mynameyeff6093anyone who pays 100M for Rice has more money than sense
@@AlexeiRamotar Yeah, they overpaid a bit, but Rice is a best, he fit Arsenal's style and age profile, and he and Arsenal are going to be good for a long time. If you want to compete, you have to spend.
The EPL dominance can be seen with one transfer - Chelsea buying Lukaku for roughly 100mil. He didn't work, so they scrapped him and everyone moved on. But there was no talk of needing to recoup their money, or not being able to afford anything because of that one failure. That would cripple most teams in other leagues.
He hasn't been sold yet. They won't get 100 but they will get some back. He's not leaving on a free ya doughnut
@@myreplytoyourstupidity4445 no doubt, but that's not the point. The point is they're not worried about it - the money they wasted isn't even a story to them.
I mean that would cripple most clubs in the premier league too. You think the likes of Fulham, Nottingham Forest, Brentford etc. can afford that?
You say that like Madrid and Barca haven’t had similar flops
I can see a model developing where most of a players wages are performance based bonuses. Still being paid a good wage week to week, but getting a big payout at the end of a season based on appearances, goals, clean sheets, league position etc. that way, if you’re successful you will get a high wage, if you’re not, you’ll still be on enough money that you could be move and be on more money.
pretty smart
That will never happen unless enforced by league rules, which would be almost impossible legally. It only take 1 or 2 clubs to continue not doing that to destroy the system. Why would a player sign under those circumstances when they can get a higher base pay elsewhere?
performance based pay is already in force to the extent it can be e.g goal bonuses, appearance bonuses. Your suggestion of effectively lowering the base pay and putting more emphasis on performance just wouldn't be feasible as it ignores the fact that
1) players get injured, and
2) managers can freeze players out
Imagine signing for Chelsea where you get 300k p/w on this performance related pay model, but then a new manager comes in, doesn't fancy you and you never play again, dropping you down to 50k p/w
@@MichaelGGarry u r right, with the key phrase being "......Unless enforced by league rules......" As much as we hate all things American being introduced to our beloved league, perhaps it time to enforce a league hard salary cap. If not we may soon find ourselves with a big 2 or three with the financial deep pockets to violate FFP, pay the fines and still recruit well above others 4 quality talent that just sits on the B team. (See Man City manual 4 step by step instructions)
Money cannot buy you happiness, but it can rent it for a long time.
Lies
@@wintersoilder5676 99% of the world's population would disagree with you.
@@wintersoilder5676 Have you ever seen an unhappy person on a jet ski or yacht in the waters? That is what money can buy.
I've said exactly this for ages, and the problem with the TV deal money is that it's pretty much just gone on inflated transfers, wages, agents fees and managerial appointments.
There’s an error 0:41 Malo Gusto joined to English league not the Turkish league
I think you mean every deal that isn’t English is wrong lmao. Vitinha joined a French club and zaniolo a Turkish one
Jadon Sancho should be on that list as once De Gea left he is now (according to reports) Utd’s highest earner!
christ that's depressing. How sancho can even be in the top ten earners at United, never mind being number 1. He's absolutely awful. If Dortmund were ever stupid enough to want him back I'd just let him go for free just to get him off the wage bill.
@@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere What I’ve read is that he was on basically the same deal as De Gea at £19-20,000,000 a year (or TWO Harry Maguire’s)!
@@garethowen1099 yeah it wouldn't surprise me. I remember he was part of that embarrassing stat when Liverpool smacked United at Old Trafford 5 nil, the top 5 paid players in the league were on the pitch, this being Salah, Ronaldo, De Gea, Sancho and presumably Varane. How he's earning anywhere near the salary of those other names it's absolute batshit crazy
We didn’t buy Lodi. He was loaned, recently signed for Marseille
the implication was it was a loan deal that a newly promoted club like forest wouldn't have been able to make without TV money. He'd have been on hefty wages coming from a champions league club like atleti. Forest being able to loan the likes of lodi and navas shows that it's not just the big clubs in England that can attract players from champions league clubs. Same with how Bournemouth can now beat big clubs in Italy to signing players
Since the Bosman rule this changed it all. Contracts are just mad in England and they take the chance coz they have so many good facilities now
A salary cap that's the same for all European clubs would fix a lot of issues but will never happen because so many don't really care about any of these problems as long as their club has money to spend.
I miss the 2000-2010 years, when every league had a superstars and competitive teams in Europe.
The premierleague isn’t better than psg or the Saudi pro league in terms of getting players by paying highly inflated transfer fees and wages
They're no better than Real Madrid when they were almost the only team that used to pay highly inflated transfer fees and wages.
This is why I'm glad Bellingham made the choice of going to RM...at least he's not being caught up in the trap
Exactly he said in his interview that a lot of his mates wanted him to come to England cause it’s comfortable but he said no the boy has an elite mentality
@@ItsJesssee nobody could afford him and the ones that could he said he didnt want to join plastic oil clubs with no heritage
@@NightsuWhat does this mean
@@andrewphillips6853 he rejected city and chelsea because theyre plastic oil clubs with no history and sketchy revenue streams. he said it in an interview
I think in a lot of clubs, his position is not clear. He can't see himself in a starting position in city. But in Madrid they were able to show him where he would fit.
That is a incredibly well strategy Madrid has. They have a World Class first team and mediocre players in the bench.
The problem with buying players from the Premier League isn’t even just the transfer fee but also the salary a player demands when he played in the Premier League.
That chart was mostly conquered by Chelsea. 😂
It the same issue as the ‘resource curse’ oil-rich countries face; the money/oil becomes a crutch while other aspects (scouting, recruitment, promoting youth players etc) suffers
Leicester fell foul of this, lots of players on big contracts that didn’t meet expectations. Super wealth is the only way to go now in the prem. Teams now like Brighton and Brentford that are doing well now be prepared for the worst.
Indeed...
Demand of spend salary.
Supply of profit player.
I've said this before, but I really think for the next 5 years (at least), the prem needs to start giving the extra money made from deals to the lower leagues to develop their league and to the FA Cup to increase the financial gain from progressing in there.
The big leagues are already struggling because of the prem and the more prem teams increase in power and teams like Forrest can outbid top 4 teams in the top leagues, the more it pushes football to a super league.
Especially now that the saudi league is starting to spend.
The big leagues are struggling? No I don't hey they are. Fact is, leagues like la liga or bundesliga have 5 teams which can challenge others, and in their leagues, they hold a monopoly. Every german fan saying that they're fine with Bayern Munich wining the league each year is smoking something, because their, with a financial restructuring, could challenge the permier league. They just chose not to do it.
I seem to enjoy the other leagues ,Serie A & La Liga , just for that fact..
And interesringly those leagues have realised the EPL problem and are capitalizing by selling most players for €40m+ each
Malo gusto was signed by chelsea 0:35
The key is to make the under 21s as good as the premier League. And team recruiting for that and then either promoting them to the first team or selling them. That solves most of the problems. As the under 21s wages wont be as high and players will be ready for the first team.
Seems like in the bundesliga for example the focus is more on nurturing young players, coaching them how to play the team's style, fit into the formation, etc in order to slowly integrate into the 1st team and increase their chance of success, and bring in the mid and late career established players just to balance the first team. Spending £10+ million on a mid career player to fill up your 50-60 man squad while talented academy graduates are let go is just nuts
That does not mean that the mediocre football mentality of the Germans let the league go bankrupt, I have already been a fan of the Bundesliga for a few decades, and the only thing the 50+1 rule has done is lose and lose value, the only German team The one that competes decently in the Champions League is Bayern, normally I see Germans proud of their 50+1 because they believe that only they see the Bundesliga, the Bundesliga is seen all over the world, how sad it is for Dortmund fans who once had a It's a great team to see what they have now, a youth squad for the Premier, and that's the way the Bundesliga is in general. The only thing they do is sell players to the Premier and they never do a serious project, but of course the Germans are still proud with their 50+1 because They only care about going to the stadium and seeing their amateur team, they completely rule out the international fans who pay for meberasias to see the league and who want to see a competitive team that is decent in Europe and that stops being a quarry for the premier league.
@@Alex-ce1os The Bundesliga ist the one only big league doing it the right way. Yeah the premier league might have the best quality but it has completely sold its soul. I cant stand that newcastle fans get crazy because they have a saudi owner. The term owner itself... I´m a huge football fan but the sport loses me more and more.
@@Knishmaster Seriously, you talk to me about "soul", brother, I just want to see the German teams succeeding, football is about competitiveness, how I would like to see a shalke or a Hamburg playing champions, beating the English, how nice it would be to see the English teams lose against teams germans.
That's exactly the situation FC Barcelona faced - and is still facing - when he had to get rid of those super expensive players it had signed back when the economy of the club was thriving. We're talking about Lenglet, Umtiti, and others.
There is a mistake in the graph at 0.40. Vintinha is in Marseille and Zaniolo at Newclastle
Kalvin phillips is not a failed Transfer just yet. Dont judge a Player After his First Season at City.
It’s crazy how times have changed due to PL power and influence a player would rather go to Bournemouth than Napoli for example
Unless its an italian
The bad side of this is that PL sides, like every rich person out there, think they are better because they are richer and therefore don't research their players well enough and also treat players like they are expandable and never give olayers enough chances
Players don't get changes at PL clubs because PL clubs cannot afford to get relegated. That is why top teams buy proven players, and lower and midlevel teams buy guys that are on an upward trajectory and hopefully fit their style of play. If you are good enough and want to be in the PL, then you will get to the PL. Sounds like someone is bitter.
@@nathancook2852 what am i bitter about?
illuminate me
Not sure what's eating u mate but u may wanna reassess that comment. U just lumped all rich people together, claimed they think they r better, and don't give people a chance and then likened them to all PL sides. One group r people and different strokes 4 different folks. The other group r business entities and 4 them talent and time r money invested or being wasted.
@@uncletin6830 yes that is what i did
only 3 clubs in PL had a solid,good strategy of recruitment from scouts- brighton,newcastle and brentford
This is part of the reason Harry Kane is stuck at Spurs. There just aren't many clubs in the market for him.
It’s a shame he hasn’t got a trophy
Didn’t age well
We Newcastle are suffering from this honestly. At time, we needed to keep our players in order to keep ourselves in the PL. But now we're in need of moving on, it's become harder to move these players with big wages on, and we don't wanna hit FFP.
cry more
It's almost like we won the lottery got the money in our banks and forgot the pin number.
Let's keep Newcastle out of this. It's the new Man City. Just waiting 4 all the noise to die down b4 ignoring and violating so called FFP rules and then buying their way out with a slap on the hand fine.
@@uncletin6830 LFC is an example that you can do without rich owners in the EPL and if not for pep they would the top club there, so this narrative that they bought their success is nonsense. They are successful becuz of smart recruiting, else look at Man UTD who are also rich, where did that get them? Also all top clubs bought their success, what's your issue against man city and Newcastle? Just cuz they are Arab owned?
@@sumomaster5585 "smart recruiting is easy when you can spend 100's of million in just one transfer window...
New Castle have literally bought their success theres no questions about it. Just like City and PSG
Zaniolo went to Turkey (specifically Galatasaray), not France.
That long lingering fade on Maguire though! @5:18
Brentford, Brighton and prev Southampton, Leicester have shown the way in recruitment. And Saudis may offer a shortcut exit from some of these problems in the present.
Good recruitment team better than having money to spend on every talent and struggling to sell them when things didn't go well.
Too many players seem happy to sit around taking big money and not playing competitive football. If more players were motivated to actually PLAY football they'd be more willing to move for less money.
I also wonder how much of a hand agents have in the matter. They get more money for their cut if the player is on more money. It's not necessarily in their interest to get their players on less money just so they can play football.
0:40 i think the graphic got it mixed up with gusto and zaniolo. and wouldn’t it be 19 out 20 since chelsea signed him but sent him back to lyon on loan?
Considering how boring the Bundesliga has become, I'm surprised it's valued more than La Liga and Serie A. La Liga is boring too I suppose as every team plays the same style of football with too much theatrics but Serie A is becoming great again but need better stadiums to market the league better.
Complex, performance related pay contracts are the obvious way forward.
Brilliant and insightful level of detail
Makes you wonder about Chelsea strategy, sure they sold players this window but they were all champions league winners. these new players on 8-9 year contract will be tough to move on even if they 80-90k wages as this is still a lot of wages for other league teams,and other pl teams and big teams from other league won't bother as they have already flopped in pl (only teams who could afford this so called small wages)
I've seen people claim they can get big money if they sell them, but who's gonna want to buy out a flop with 6-7 years left on their contract, let alone if the player is going to want to move. Unless rapid change happens now they ain't gonna be in European football for a while
Am I missing something or why is there a Turkish flag beside Malo Gusto's January 2023 signing at 0:36 and a French Flag by Zaniolo?
So is the money in their contracts all fully guaranteed or only a limited amount? Plus the owners are all increasing the salaries and there's basically no limit to anything.
A little harsh on Kalvin Phillips after an injury hit first season at City. They’re not looking to sell him, so he isn’t stuck there based on wages
Why was the expiration date on that credit card in year 2021 ?
In the graphic @ 0:42 I think you got Malo Gusto and Zaniolo's flags wrong
This guy’s voice-overs are the best
I think over time you will see this even itself out. Romelu Lukaku's situation demonstrates the situation perfectly as Chelsea paid big money for him but nobody else was willing or able to pay anything close to that when Chelsea wanted to move him on. So Chelsea take a huge hit. Having said that, if Chelsea or any other Premier League side try to buy Lautaro Martinez or Nicolo Barella, Inter aren't going to give a discount. They would expect the same fees Premier League players go for. So they are on the one hand demanding increasing transfer fees for players sold but simultaneously have an argument as to why they can't match the kind of fees being paid by Premier League clubs when signing players.
What this ensures is over time the money is flowing out of the Premier League and into the other leagues. The challenge for European clubs like Inter is to capitalise by developing their recruitment and scouting systems to ensure that when they do spend money they don't waste it or squander the chance to gain an advantage.
The slow fade to morose Maguire is heartbreaking
Please can you do one about Saudi money and why the pif own 5 clubs please
Renan Lodi was a loanee. Not a permanent signing for forest
Arsenal would seem to be on the leading edge of tackling the unsellable-player-on-massive-wages problem, in the way they bought out a number of delinquent players in cold hard cash when no market for them developed (see: Özil, Mkhtaryian, Mustafi, Aubameyang). Allowing a firm reset of the squad's wage floor to a lower level befitting a young squad has borne fruit in that Edu and Mikel Arteta can more aggressively recruit players entering their primes, paying and amortizing transfer fees with more latitude because the eye-watering wages of a team whose contracts were negotiated with Champions League revenues in mind are no longer unbalancing the books. That financial incentive is itself strong enough, but clearing out dead wood in such a frank and decisive manner has also allowed for the acquisition of players who are better stylistic and culture fits for the club - and who are, often, just better players. In two seasons, the club upgraded from a CB partnership of Luiz and Sokratis to one of Gabriel and Saliba, just for one example.
I don't think they are leading. They lost a lot of money, maybe more than others clubs by paying wages to end contracts and not getting any on transfers fees. (For Ozil and Auba at least they paid all)
Now you have less money on wages because they paid all in once.
And they will surely do the same thing with Pepe. So for me, they have the downside as much as everyone else.
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Really highlights useful it would be if football floursihed enough in other places outside of europe, like potentially the saudi league and MLS.
Players also come for the exposure. If you’re an unknown player who does well and works hard, you get massive publicity playing in the prem for a small club. Look at paulinha at fulham, everyone wants him now because hes done well every week against united, liverpool arsenal etc who are big clubs
Quick correction: Forest didn't buy Renan Lodi - he was a loan move on a 5 Million Pound fee.
Small mixup of Malo Gusto & Zaniolo flags on your Top20 Transfer Winter '23 screen ;-)
I would prefer it to be like this. It means that the best managers are not only those who have the best on pitch strategy but also that where the manager has to be great eith finances and transfers.
The PL needs to follow suit from US sports and impose a hard salary cap. It will force clubs with tons of money to fill out the rest of their rosters with players that fit a system and not go after the biggest names. The question is how much that cap would be with the disparity in wealth between the top and bottom clubs
I've been saying this for years but when I trying to explain it gets laughed at. People seem to like the idea of the next financial crash likes of 08 a lot of teams are going to find themselves in trouble with the amount of debt their running up.
@@thecodex0994good idea but too bad clubs vote on this decisions and would never allow it
This is something La Liga does (a wage cap based on revenues is calculated for each club). That is why clubs like Villareal, Sociedad, who spend wisely and sell when needed, are doing well. Barca are mainly facing a problem because of this currently, but that's because of poor spending in the past. In the long term, it will help them as well for sure. As a fan, I'm already seeing Barca recruit better because of this cap.
This is something that needs to be done globally as well to make sure Saudi clubs follow it as well.
They can't because of law
@@kidpagronprimsank05what law?
interesting use of Kalvin Phillips in this video, considering a) I'd view a Treble as quite a successful season, and b) City haven't actually said that they want to shift Phillips
In fact, looking at second season syndrome, Phillips could have a fantastic season for City next year
Nathan Ake showed that a player can sit on City's bench for years and eventually develop enough to break into the first team
Now we have a huge outlet in the form of saudi arabia to dump all of these fringe and and flop players and there you go the problem is solved and they are going to get even higher or around the same wages as they would get in the prem but I don't know that how long saudi arabia can keep this buying spree and where do we stop so that is a concern of it's own.
I’d like to see if players return to Europe after a sting there.
@@finfog4590 look football is the game of momentum and confidence for most player accept someone like Lionel messi when it is all about skills but you know once you go down that path of saudi i think that there is no coming back and then the players get complement and their confidence dies down and someone else would have already replaced them in their european team because there are a huge number of players who wanna be there and play at the highest level so those who go saudi are gone.
When the premier league money bubble pops it will be spectacular and many many clubs will go under.
I'm really surprised that Bundesliga has the second highest TV deal. Would of thought La Liga/Serie A
Richer country than Spain or Italy and more people. Its the international TV deal that seperates LaLiga from Bundesliga.
Story of my life in Football Manager for a long time lol
This is a great one actually
I think the problem is their plan...
For example, we saw maguire in the video, united spend a lot of money in him and he earns a lot but if they try to sell him they will demand many money...
How can you sell your reject for this amount of money?
You just have to lower the price, i think a reasonable price for Maguire is 30-35m so if they put him on sale for this amount then many european clubs would try to sign him...
You see they ask for 10-20m for players that had loaned to lower divisions not doing much...
Put Calvin Phillips for 15-25m and hundreds of teams will keep an eye to sign him but no, City will wait to earn 40+ from desperate English or Saudi teams instead otherwise he will stay there forever.
I'm an Olympiacos fan, we often want to bring from premier league players that even their teams doesn't remember but they always asking for 10m+, ending up losing the player for free 1-2 years later or selling hik for 2m.
Every single time.
They hive more to sign but they are not reasonable for bsd players they sell
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Maguire to United is arguably a top 10 worst signings in football history. Even when he was at Leicester you could tell that that was his level and no higher.
He was still a 50m player at that time he had two good season at united he just suits a low block tactics ie counter attacking teams
@@saqib7965he was never a 50 million pound player.
They just signed the wrong man, he needed a competent defender to play with when he joined and when they weren’t the he got overwhelmed and form dropped.
It feels so frustating as an Inter Milan Supporter that italian clubs cannot usually spend more than 35 milion on a player, while there are PL clubs...Cough... Chealsea... Cough.... Can spend infinite amount of money. Fifa should do something
The strange thing I've always found that since 1992, when the Premier League had more money than every other European league and has been widely considered "the best league in Europe", is that we haven't had the best players. When you consider the following greats (most of which have won the Ballon d'OR), most of them haven't played in England:
Cristiano Ronaldo: England, Spain, Italy, Portugal
Messi: Spain, France
Neymar: Spain, France
Suarez: Holland, England, Spain
Zidane: France, Italy, Spain
R9 Ronaldo: Holland, Spain, Italy
Benzema: France, Spain
Bale: England, Spain
Kaka: Italy, Spain
Modric: England, Spain
Cannavaro: Italy
Ronaldinho: France, Spain, Italy
Luis Figo: Portugal, Spain, Italy
Shevchenko: Ukraine, Italy, England
And it could be argued that some of those who did play in England (Shevchenko for instance) weren't at their peak when they playing in the Premier League.
Those 14 names are famously the only elite players to have existed in the last 30 years.
KdB, Gundogan, Zlatan, Henrik Larsson, Yaya Toure, Aguero, Alexis Sanchez, Ozil, Di Maria, Salah, Becker, Ederson, Thiago Silva, David Silva, Bernardo Silva, van Persie, one of the Ladrup bros (Rangers), the Schmeichels, Ginola, Cantona, Berbatov, Tevez, de Gea, Cech and others (excluding Brits) say hi
The Premier League is only considered the best League for 10 years or so, not 30!
Most times…the most expensive player is not always the best player for the team.
italy - catenaccio
germany - gegenpress
spain - tiki taka
holland - total football
brazil - joga bonito
england - selling the sport out
reflect on what De Zerbi, who was managing mid table serie A, is doing with Brighton and a bit of money. The EPL peaked over a decade ago, when the generation of frank lampard, gerrard etc retired. Its all inflation and hype from, with all due respect, casual fans from former English colonies, such as India. Popularity isnt actually a reflection of quality.
Premier League revenues are primarily shouldered by English domestic market. I know for certain Premier league games are broadcasted in some foreign countries free of charge or cost very little in subscription. Nor do I see any merchandise sold in significant quantities.
So English pay extraordinarily amount for their domestic leagues. English median incomes aren’t that high to be honest. On par with some continental European countries, certainly inferior to North America.
So how much English is willing to pay for their football is incredulous.
1:20 How can you forget about Navas?
As a Spurs fan, what money?
It went into Ndombele
You never know, if we sell Kane we might buy a new CB lmao
@@TheRealCDSbold of you to assume he won't just buy a fullback for 10 mil and pocket the rest of the cash
As a spurs fan you should know you've spent an absolute fortune. Richarlison 50 mil, Ndombele 50 mil, lo celso 50 mil, kulusevski 40 mil, Emerson Royal 25 mil, lucas Moura 30 mil, Bentancour 20+ mil? so ignorant "what money" lol!!
0:37 Switched up the Turkish and French flags
This is why there will be more deals between Premier league teams. No one else can afford a big fee and big wage like most Premier League teams can. So we need to start getting comfortable to more deals between Premier League club.
You forget that epl players who stay in the epl get hyper inflated sale prices. It’s not that easy.
Suprised you didn’t use Declan Rice and West Ham as an example here. Not a top 6 club so we couldn’t offer him the wages he deserved, and his transfer fee by some accounts is inflated because it’s a premier league in-house transfer.
Biggest reason of this is united. Pogba maguire sanches di maria.... All players dropped of masively after united spent huge on them and it just drove the prices up for all players.
That’s what happens when Midtable Premier league teams can pay twice or thrice as much wages as a majority of champions league level clubs in other countries.
Why leave and be a part of a project for one of those sides to pontetially mount a title challenge?
If you’re successful you get a medal, sitting on the bench at aston villa or brighton or whoever geta you 2 million more.
I know what I’d choose
Harry Maguire is the poster boy for this problem. Impossible to move on, even the Saudi clubs dont want him.
Interesting!
Uh 0:37 ? Vitinha was transferred to Marseille....
Still waiting the sensible transfer: starting the high progressing passer IBRAHIMA SANGARE
You can't include Kalvin Phillips in that list.
He's only been there for 1 season.
He's not been hanging on for a high wage.
Short term contracts are a viable option
0:40 vitihna gusto and zaniolo are switched
Saudi have something to say about that for Mbappe
€700m per year
€58.33m per month
€1.9m a day
€79,900 an hour
€1,332 a minute
€22 per second
Kalvin Phillips was a bad example of a player stuck at a club. He's just completed his first season, he's been injured for 50% of the season and Manchester City aren't looking to sell him. Lets not forget he won the trebble this season which is the first thing he's won in his footballing career.
But you couldn't help yourself could you 😂
Problem is they allowed 6 teams to dictate how the league was run. So the players they'd like to offload they tied the hands of the clubs likely to take them off their hands. FFP is to protect 6, not the rest
Exactly this. Those 6 are the media darlings so they're never challenged on it and by presenting their biased takes as neutral those people less familiar with the sport actually take them at face value