DCT shift cotrol motor cleaning (NC700) - ratio assy, motor assy, ratio control
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- čas přidán 25. 09. 2021
- Dual clutch transmission shift control motor cleaning at home. Honda NC700XD, 700SD (2012-2014, 50.000km) (ratio assy, motor assy, ratio control)
* * * * * DCT shift control motor cleaning (english) * * * * *
It’s a type error that the carbon brushes wear out and stay back in the isolated shift control motor. They cause contact error or in extreme cases the shift control motor stucks. If the switching has become slower or doesn’t always shift to the right gear, it might be caused by this Problem. It sometimes appears at high temperature or it won’t be shifted to certain gears.
The solution can be cleaning of the DCT shift motor. I had cleaned it some thousand km earlier before I made this video so I couldn’t show you how dirty it really was.
Important: The seals must be cleaned dry without chain cleaner! The lubricant of the bearings mustn’t be washed off.
Tools:
Allen key: 4, 5, 8
Socket wrench: 8 + extension
Torque wrench
Chain cleaner
Lubricant ( min. up to 100 °C or more)
Gloves
On your own responsibility!
* * * * * Camera: Olympus OM-D 5 * * * * * - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Just done exactly this. Worked perfect.
Bike was stuck in 2nd gear. Turned off, wouldnt start.
Battery was 100%.
Cleaned and re fitted, worked.
One thing to note (as others did) move the bike on the wheels. There is a speed sensor that typically likes to know the bike is moving before changing gear. Not always but it can help.
Thanks man, owe you a beer 👍
Das Motorrad auf die linke Seite zu kippen und einzuschalten kann auch helfen. Bei mir zu 100% Prozent.
This was the motor that gave me issues at around 50,000 miles. It would overheat after 40+ minutes of riding and then my NC700XD would stop shifting and go into limp mode. I took to to the dealer and they had no idea what was wrong because it was only an intermittent issue and they couldn't duplicate it. They tested the shift motor per the Service Manual but it was reading fine in both directions. At the time I didn't know it was the Shift motor either, so my bike sat in the shop for 2 weeks until they told me they wanted to replace the ECU. I decided to take things into my own hands and replaced the motor and it's been fine ever since. If you own a DCT i totally recommend you clean it every 16,000 miles or so.
Meni se nekada desi da kada stanem,pokazuje da je u prvoj brzini a i dalje se cuje da motor nesto radi,onda upali gresku i moram ds ugssim i ponovo upalim motor.Posle tiga radi normalno neko vreme,nema pravila.Vozim se 20 dana nista i onda u tri dana se desi tri puta,pomoc?
@@aleksandarlatinkic3602 Go to NC700 online forums and post about it and maybe someone can help you there. For me the problem was the Shift Motor which I replaced and I haven't had any issues since I replaced it. Good luck
thx buddy, we all appreciate your video
Good video, easy to understand.
👍Thank you very much for sharing the DIY video!🙏
Great video. This is definitely worth a try first before buying a new shift control motor for almost $400 CAD (276 EUR)
Thank you for your video !
Brilliant! Thanks for posting! I’ve subscribed! Ride safe…
Love you man!
Thank you very much from south korea!!. I had gear shift problem thesedays at 13,000km intermittently. (especially shift to 3 during hot condition.).
Same here, 13.000km and failed to shift down from gear 3 to 2 after 40 minutes of riding at warm +26° C
Спасибо. Помогло. Все работает)))). Наилучшие пожелания из Украины.
Привіт Віктор, яка проблема була з DCT.
@@ROMABUSCADOR Залипала коробка при переключении на пониженную. Температура окружающей среды влияла на время проявления глюков. Чем теплее, тем быстрее зависание. Игры с маслом и адаптацией коробки =0. Оф дилеры - соболезнования, DCT, мол не ломаются. Данное видео направило в правильное русло. Был перекос щеток движка коробки. Пробег 30тыс. Тихого дня, без пострілів, прилетів та рсзв.
Interesting 👍great video keep it up 💪 I was able to broaden my do-it-yourself horizons, thank you. Greetings from Germany😘
Danke. Jetz mache ich die Beschreibungen und die Beschriftungen.
Nice vedio i like it.
Saved my trip to Alaska,thank you! Motor went out on first day of trip. Tore it apart and cleaned it up, 8000 miles without a hiccup! I did crack the plug on the wiring harness forcing it back on. Anyone know where I can source the correct one?
This is the motor which broke on my NC after 18 months. Honda eventually replaced it but I didn't know it was so easy to clean up. Thanks.
How many miles did you have and what year was your bike?
@@ropeysubstance1719 I bought the bike brand new in 2018 and the fault first appeared 1 year later. The bike had 8,000 miles on the clock.
@@TheDervMan Interesting. mine went out at 47,000 miles. But it was only failing intermittently so at first I had no idea it was the problem. It cost me lots of money and time wasted at the dealership but eventually I just purchased a new shift motor and the problem was fixed.
@@ropeysubstance1719 That's what happened to mine, very occasionally would stick in gear when the bike was very hot (ie in traffic). Bike was under Honda warranty but they had it for a month as couldn't figure out what was happening. The fact Honda couldn't diagnose the problem really worried me. It's content like this which is super helpful as it helps people understand what the problem might be. it's frustrating the manufacturers don't share more information on how these systems works.
@@TheDervMan You describe the same problem I have on my xadv.
Have you changed or cleaned your engine shift to solve your problem?
Dear, first of all thank you for this video from Tunisia ;-). My problems was the blinking dash while riding, and I have just remove this shift control motor, and clean it. It was not dirty after 65 000 km and hope that it should be enough to solve my problem. I should test it in 2 or 3 days and come back to you to give the final result. One more time thank you for your video.
I have made the test, and it was not OK. I have changed this motor... and still not OK. I think I have to change the selection PIN inside the GEAR BOX.
@@njamai4917 did you get everything fixed?
@@matthewread79 no solution ! I have also changed thé 3 speed sensor and Still the blinking dash. I want to cry
@@njamai4917 I feel your pain. I’m having similar issues. Good luck
@@matthewread79 no solution on your side ? Honda official do not find how to solve it! Where are you from.bro
same happned to nc750xI was driving under the sun for 5 hours. sun was on the left of the motorbike now i understand that shft motor is over heated because of the angle of the sun and long riding. i waited like half hour it shifted N.
hey im having trouble finding the starter assembly are theses the same piece?
For NC 700D Integra, is the shift control motor in the same place?
With me, it often stays on 3, or 4, or 5 ... and I have to turn it off, and after 1 minute it starts and it fixes itself ... Is it from the shift control motor?
Sorry but can you list the products you used like the white bottle or at the bottom of the motor before you reassembled it and the sprays you used please thank you
I’m having the same problem. Was thinking about buying a new shift motor and having someone replace it. But maybe I can do it myself?
Thank you for the great video, I will indeed try that. But which spry are you using, is that a contact spray? Do you recommend something specific?
hey does anyone know if having a broken shift motor o ring could likely result in overheating or loss of connectivity? Cleaned mine and it still isn’t working but wondering if since I broke the o ring and put it back together the best I could when attaching if it is allowing too much moisture or heat from the engine to get inside.
Good vid but how do I know if it is necessary. My 17 Africa is stuck in neutral after 5 months. (Was having problems getting her to fire..... now running again) Any help appreciated.
Changed the front sprocket at 25k, figured I'd do this while in there. Broke the plastic casing trying to put the contact tips back in when reassembling. Rolled the dice and got about 100 miles until it went into limp mode a few miles from home. Couldn't rock'n'roll it back into neutral to get it started again. Hopefully a new shift motor ($237 with 1 day shipping) will rectify my mistake...
;( A müanyagok eléggé törékenyek sajnos. Sajnálom.
@@IFinglikemymotorcycle All good, life goes on :) put 1,000 miles on it last month with no issues.
Hello Sir, please why do I see engine oil inside my DCT control motor all the time I had it stack in 2nd gear ? Please help
Wonderful video, Mr Do it yourself! Would you please give us an advice how to loosen stiff chain links? IMHO the o- chain- rings are bloating during the time, they become more and more voluminous and are blocking after some years, even the chain has bareley lengthened (LESS THAN 0:5 %). I am not able to find out how to solve the problem...and I have tried a lot: grease, heat, kerosin, bathing the chain one week in gear oil.... not any chance at all...
This is an interesting problem. Maybe you used the wrong chain cleaner? The brake cleaner cleans the sealing rings. All I can advise you to buy a new chain set and use a different kind of solvent!
I’ll be making a video of the chain change soon, too, if the chain slider arrives, within a month.
@@IFinglikemymotorcycle Thank you so much for quick reply. I do not use any chain cleaner. It seems to be the UV rays of the sun causing the desaster. In future I will project my new DID VX3 chain from the summer sun, as good as possible. Best from Germany! Cheers Guido
Hi, thnks a lot for this helpful Video!. Can you tell me what kind of clean what do you use? Thx for answer
Normal chain cleaner. Sorry for the delayed reply.
My Honda CTX 700 will only go from neutral to first. Won’t shift out of first. Do you think that the shift motor could be causing this?
Je voulais savoir si t’a trouvé le problème ?
Hello my bike won't go over 150 kmph and it feels weak the 6 gear don't have any power do you know what could it be? I changed the dash it was not like that before
check valve clearance ?
hey what was that white stuff you were putting on the shaft of the shift motor?
A little steaming fat. It is not necessary to use.
My DCT would switch to neutral or engine died while I was riding...Could this be the issue? Mine is CRF1000l DCT. Went to Honda and they put in the computer but could not solved anything.
It seems unlikely, but it is the first step because it is the cheapest.
Great video! May I know if WD40 can be used instead of chain cleaner?
No, it destroys the sealing ring in the chain.
@@IFinglikemymotorcycle Thanks!
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Nc750x dct 2015
Would this cause shifting issues if malfunctioning ?
Yes.
Ma quando si smonta il motorino bisogna far uscire tutto l'olio del motore? grazie.
You don't need to.Click to apply
What is the spray you’re cleaning with?
Use what you use on the chain, but any chain cleaning spray will do.
What size torque wrench 🔧 is that?
The small 1/8 is 7-30 Nm, the large 1/2 is 30-210Nm.
Where do you apply the lube?
Not necessary in the electric motor, but I used a little grease. The sealing ring and gear face should be oiled or greased before reassembly.
I have the same issue with my VFR1200X DCT! 😓
Did you solve the problem?
Hello. I have a problem with my DCT. When it is cold it works perfectly, but when it warms up the odd gears start to fail. Only odd gears fail. Could it be the motor's fault? My mechanic has seen it and says it's fine. Greetings from Spain and thank you.
Ja imam problem kada je hladna i kada vraca u nizu brzinu,ostane u nekoj i prijavi gresku.Ugasim i ponovo krenem i sve bude normalno.Ako saznas nesto javi 🙏
Not sure if this is the problem. You have to try everything from the cheapest solution to the most likely failure. Honda dealerships would be your partner in this.
Electric motor cleaning, oil pressure sensor, double clutch. Double clutch handles the even and odd sides separately.
@@IFinglikemymotorcycle Hello. Finally it was a problem with an automatic transmission oil pressure sensor. Very angry with the Honda mechanics for not locating the problem. I solved it by myself in one morning and the bike was in the Honda workshop for 1 month...
@@jberto1212how you find this problem? I have same problem.. odd gears are slippery. only 16000km. I check sensor but it don't look broke
@@raouldesmet2114 Hello. I changed the oil pressure sensor (1) of the odd gears and it was solved. Luck.
Why the pointless magnet wrist strap ?
It was a gift from my wife and I forgot to take it off. I did keep 1-2 bits on it sometimes.
Doing all that but not cleaning all the rest of the dirt off the motorcycle?
I did it later at the chain store.
I’m sure you meant to say thank you. Can you point me in the direction of your videos mate?