J Frame Reloads with Zeta Six
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- čas přidán 12. 04. 2024
- How to reload a small frame revolver with Zeta 6 J-Clips and J-packs when you're an oddball lefty like myself!
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👍 "Don't have a gun? Buy one. Don't know how to use it?, learn. Don't believe in guns? Get ready to hide behind someone who does."
- Charlie Daniels
Keep em coming Greg.
Thank you, sir. I'm always learning from your channel. I'm 64 years old, a retired Armored Truck driver/cash courier in the 24 years that I worked in that profession my 12 first years I carried a model 10 S.W. on my right hip and a Model.36 with a bobbed hammer with Tgrips and rubber bands on the butt of J frame m.36. I knew I wasn't fast enough to reload if the situation ever arose. Thanks to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ it never did! Thanks again because now a days I carry a Model 638-3 in the waistband. I'm always learning something here.
Good story about life experience. May the Lord bless you.
@@LionquestFitness Good morning buddy, have a safe and a blessed week. Good video too!
@@dano1956 Good to hear from you this morning. Have a blessed week.
Keeping the economy moving has a dangerous side to it, Good Job! Solid weapon choices too Sir. Godspeed!
Excellent info. Reminds me to practice with speed loaders
Hi Santee! It's a perishable skill I train with snap caps at odd times during the day. Among other things - pushups, power naps, shadow sparring, writing essays, stretching etc. - its a useful time filler for when I'm waiting on my wife.
Being a lefty as well, I really appreciate the demonstration of the speed loading. I have some of these Zeta 6 loaders, but I just kind of forgot about them as I normally carry the HKS. I'm going to give these things a second look. Besides, practicing reloading a snubby is something you can never get enough of.
It definitely is a perishable skill.
I carry the speed strips for my 856. The strips and the gun were shown to work in your videos so, I bought them--thank you Greg!
I like Zeta6's K-PAK strips in particular. Wish they'd make something for .32 caliber, now that my primary carry is a Taurus 327.
The K-Clip speed loaders won't fit my Ruger GP100, so I have to use a HKS 586.
@@LionquestFitness Good to know for when I get my S&W 586. The 586 and GP100 both use the HKS-586 loader.
@@CyborgZetaBut as Greg made me aware, the K Clips fit the Colt Detective Special too should you ever run across one, 6 vs 5
Your last group was pretty darn good! My M&P340 is effectively the same as your 642 except that it is in the 442 color and has a nicer front sight. That and the 357 Magnum chambering which is probably not at all practical IRL. I've given up on the HKS speed loaders due to their bulk. Those Zeta clips are something I really want to try. I carry a single speed strip for reloading. It's nice and flat. My entire EDC firearm philosophy is one of simplicity and carry comfort for what Paul Harrell calls, "program compliance". I'm fully aware of the limitations I'm putting on myself. But I have full faith and confidence in a five shot J-Frame to do its part if I do mine. I actually consider a reload an after action event (in case more trouble comes looking). In the very unlikely situation I need to shoot, I'm hoping that in addition to connecting, my ammo choice makes for a strong deterrent in a multiple attacker scenario. WWB Q4204. Very hard to find these days. But it says "Personal Protection" on the box and has delivered impressive results on gel from a 2" barrel.
Those zeta 6. Quick loads work pretty decent. With a little practice you can get pretty quick with those. Another great informational video. I always enjoy watching my friends 👍👍👍👍
Hi Al!
Another good instructive video for us wheel gun lovers. Thanks.
Excellent demo, Greg. Thanks!
Heard great things about zeta
Those speed clips are nice👍👍
Good video Greg. I use the same type speed loaders, but different brands. Works well on J-frames.
Awesome Video Greg i use the speed Strips i have several Have a blessed day My friend
You do the same Terry!
I have to admit I had a brain fart and almost asked "why not carry a 6th round in the J-pack slot allotted for it? More ammo is better right?" Fortunately, the answer presented itself to me before I typed it. But here's something for the algorithm anyways.
LOL - thanks!
Thank you very much for this video. These speedloaders seem very interesting
Thank you.
great shooting and great lesson, again. i have never tried those zeta 6 speedloaders. i have a few 5 shot and 6 shot hks ones and some pouches for them, but i subscribe to the ny reload philosophy. if my 5 shots of 357 don't work, the snubbie is pocketed and the back-up 40, 45, or nine is pulled. a lot quicker and less bumbling when stressed. if i don't have a speed loader i will just drop the snubbie.. if i do , the auto will give me time, hopefully, to get hidden where i can use the speedloader and throw in another mag. the last ditch is the lcp2 in the pocket. i trust myself to do a mag change under stress than to use a speedloader. thank you for the lesson.
Yes. For a time, it was a model 640 .357 and a Shield 9mm (15 rounds) for me.
Sounds like good preplanning.
Great shooting, Greg! I love the Zeta 6 loaders you sent me! I carry them often. Hope you are having a good weekend!
You do the same Marc!
I have both of those for my 856UL, love them. They are much better than the Vulcan Ballistics polymer speed loaders I have for my Charter Mag Pug.
I like them. 😀
Thanks greg!
Thank you, Greg. Always great info. You are a very competent instructor.
-Also a former LEO
I appreciate you and all the other retired or former LEO's who contribute here.
👍👍Thanks Greg, it’s always great to see different techniques. I really appreciate all your helpful videos. Hope you have a great day.
Lance, you do the same buddy.
Another great video Greg! You are using my "almost favorite" J-frame revolver. I often carry my S&W Model 638.
Got to love a J frame.
Morning brother Greg. Im a fan of these Zeta6 reloaders. Like you pointed out, nice flat packag in your pocket. God bless, Rob
Hi Rob, have a blessed and safe week!
Great vid, as usual, Greg!
I love my j frame
Thanks Greg! I use the Zeta 6 products you made me aware of for my J frame S&W 637 as well. Usually the J Clip in pocket and the Sym Strip in the 2x2x2 ammo case OWB holster combo FLETC 2.0. Also carry the J pac at times too. There is just something comfortable with that 14 oz J frame for basic everyday use. You also know me as Robert, RE:Desert_Boy. Thanks again.
The bottom line is - a j frame goes where you go, while others get left at home.
@@LionquestFitnessSo very true Sir!
NICE vid Greg...I'll add that I u can only carry 1 snub and not two, then a small fixed blade even a TDI would be good. If you can break contact and get behind cover and reload just to make sure they aren't coming back great....if still down in the dirt after 5 ot 6 then a straight blade....or even a good folder could be invaluable especially against a determined Attacker before they deseguanate
Normally I advise cover and retreat, but I'd had a request on speedloaders specifically. A blade could be a viable self defense tool, but I prefer a yawara or a small flashlight that could be used like a yawara as a secondary.
I have both j/k paks as well as strips for my revolvers. Nice to use various reload systems which fut the weapon use.
Intersting speed loaders, will have to check out their site.
I use an in-line type speed loader strip because it fits flat in my watch pocket with 5 38's or .357 Mags. The round type there are faster though for sure. And I need to practice loading with my strips.. I def don't do that enough to make it smooth and second nature. Thanks for another great vid Greg.
Thanks brother!
Great video
thank you greg for another great vidio hope all is well and the weather is comming around
Got some sunshine and actual Spring weather today!
Enjoyed our talk the other day Greg, you know about my time reloading a small Colt under fire and this video is spot on.
Thanks friend. You may want to read the post I pinned from the Angry Ranger and my reply.
I think you'd find it an interesting read.
@@LionquestFitnessCan you pls email me the link?
@@oldcop18 It is the comment I pinned at the top of the comments on this video.
Ok, pls forgive an old guy who’s not too up on this technology.
I have the two types of Zeta speed loaders. I like the strip better, but I do need to practice more using them.
It's definitely a perishable skill.
Bom dia meu amigo. Maravilhoso domingo ao Sr e família. Treinar essa rodada a mais é muito valida, principalmente para nós que amamos revólver, obrigado pelo vídeo, Deus abençoe 🙏. Deus cuide das Américas 🇧🇷🤝🇺🇲.🙏
Bom dia meu amigo brasileiro. Tenha uma semana abençoada para você e sua família. Deus proteja você, sua família e seu país.
@@LionquestFitness 🙏🤝
Good runs Greg, that shot on the edge is still on target imho.
Thanks. I am not sure why I kept edging out, so I am switching back to my old thumb over trigger guard grip and modified isosceles, at least for small frame revolvers.
Excellent video presentation with solid, no fluff information. I hadn’t seen a demo of the Zeta 6 yet but from your experience, looked like they work. My only question is if you experienced any rounds pulled back out when pulling the tab. I’ve used Bianchi speed strips and had that happen on occasion when speeding up my times.
I would encourage anyone with no revolver experience who is dead set on carrying one to follow your channel. I’ve been assisting with CHL classes for the past few months and we don’t get a lot of time to do more than one demonstration on loading a particular system. Pretty much everyone who has claimed to have a considerable amount of experience with the wheel gun turns out to not be as experienced as they claimed. I grew up shooting revolvers before being formally trained on them in my first academy, and even if I forget the acceptable variations of techniques that have come about or get a little rusty in my dexterity, I still don’t forget the basics. Unfortunately some were never trained on the basics and don’t want to invest in learning. Maybe it’s always been that way…
Well, I think wheelguns are something people have seen in movies and television shows from years gone by. It's a simple manual of arms - load the gun, spin the cylinder, flip it shut and you are ready to drop bad guys at 100 yards with a snub. Or so they think.
But regardless, as for the Zeta speedstrips and speed loaders, it is possible for them to grab a round. This is something I should have mentioned. They do require some manual dexterity and hand and finger strength to peel them off. As well as much practice.
Good videos. Would love to hear about your daily workout. As seniors , you have to stay fit. won’t do to survive the gun fight only to get a heart attack and then die. Got to stay fit.
That's true. I have another channel, Lionquest Exercise where I post about some of the exercises I do.
I find the J-pak (or K-pak for 856UL) better than the J/K-clips mostly because for a full teload speedloader I like the Safarilands. For me, they help make a smoother reload.
The J/K-paks though, very fast for partial or full reload.
The Safariland loaders from what I've been told are much smoother and of a better quality than the HKS speedloaders.
@@LionquestFitness for me, an easier reload.
In theory, if you have an adversary visible and you are reloading you have a problem in my opinion. So, I would number one try to get behind cover or concealment. If neither was an option my focus would be on reloading as fast as possible whilst internally scolding myself for being a normal person and not carrying my G19 😂
🤣🤣🤣You caught the normal! I meant to say ordinary everyday people as opposed to the keyboarding commandos. Anyway, I totally agree. My philosophy is get to cover or get out of there if possible. I did have someone ask about loading a revolver with speed loaders and strips, hence the video. But, I appreciate you keeping me honest! I'll carry my Glock 19 tomorrow in penance. 😀
@@LionquestFitness lol
Hey Greg, great video, as always. Do you carry the speed strips in some sort of pouch, or just in your pocket? Lately, I've been using the mag pouch that comes with Remora holsters, but previously, I've been using a Bianchi speed strip pouch that loops over my belt. The strips are more accessible but then I have to carry them outside the waistband. I carry 2 Bianchi speed strips.
Sounds like a good rig. BTW - I have a set of grips you asked me about awhile back I'll send you if you want. Shoot me an e-mail. They're wooden grips that will fit a 605 or 856 Taurus.
For more realism you should have 5-6 targets placed at different locations.. nobody stands still as you empty your revolver into them. Good video as usual
That's true. I wish I could set up a 180 degree field of fire and have more of the classic shoot house with moving targets. Unfortunately I'm limited in what I can do.
@@LionquestFitness I hear ya
@@NoGoodLyingSnake I don't own a recliner. Time is an opportunity to get things done.
@@NoGoodLyingSnake I can show you in person in my back yard if you want. Are you anywhere near Washougal Washington? You can stop by and I can show you what I’m talking about , and you can run your mouth when you get here too.
Well if Grambo wore a bandanna, I'm sure there would be many, not moving 😊
Thanks for sharing Greg. Interesting speed loaders. You and your family take care.🇺🇲🔪🌲🔥
Thanks for sharing. Ever have a problem with the safety setup on the new S&W revolvers?
If you are talking about the keylock, no. You hear rumors about catastrophic fails because of the keylock, but I've yet been able to substantiate one.
@@LionquestFitness Yeah those. I read a few testimonials of them all the sudden engaging , especially when using heavy , high recoiling loads , like full power 357 in a tiny , light revolvers. Light 44 mags as well
I just have a speed loader for the range. At 5 to 10 seconds to reload I think its likely i'll never have to reload in defensive situation. In several thousand video breakdowns of real self defense shootings, john at active self protection has not once seen a reload used by civilian in defensive use. I love my speed loader for the range, but i think carrying medical, or non lethal (pepper spray, flash light, tactical pen etc) vs carrying a reload. Not against others carrying more ammo tho, better to have it and not need it, then need and not have I suppose. Great stuff as always greg
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Thank you amigo.
Well met Greg. I look forward to your postings. Cheers mate. I carry the same make and model revolver, However I use Jpacks, and safariland. Just preference of course. As always stay aware, stay ready, stay alive.
Thank you sir!
Thank you for the video Greg, I going to buy the speed strips zeta . Could you make a video about your experience of police officer? . Thank you Greg
I may do that when I retire next year from my current job of teaching law enforcement and fire fighting in a high school career center. However, I was just a simple cop. I worked with several small town departments and one university police department. You deal with people at their worst - people who are angry, upset, injured and traumatized. You try to step in the gap for them. Even the ones on the wrong side of the law if they'll let you. My most rewarding years were my last five where I worked as a school resource officer in a high school. I felt like I actually made a difference in many of those young people's lives.
@@LionquestFitness thank you Greg
@LionquestFitness I know a couple of guys (a former sheriff and chief deputy) who are resource officers at an elementary school and a high school respectively. They were a good example of what law enforcement should be.
Greg, have you gotten used to that iwb holster yet?
Yes and no. I'll be doing a video further into the summer. It's a very high quality holster and well made. It definitely has practical applications for certain uses and times of the year.
He hasn't got use to the bandannas yet.
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@@lesgillard985 Hope springs eternal.
@@lesgillard985 🤣
@@tylermorrison7051 😄 we can but hope mate. 🙏
Common sense training as usual.
😀 Thanks.
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Sir are you still practicing Charles atlas dynamic tension exercises?
Yes.
Do you find them to be useful in real life fight situations?
@@9274448790 Absolutely.