Range Rover v Porsche Cayenne tested on-road - autocar.co.uk
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The Range Rover is now 43-years-old and this is our review of the latest 2013 model. Not only that, but we've also brought along one of its main competitors, the Porsche Cayenne. In the British corner is the fully-kitted £94,695 4.4-litre V8 diesel Autobiography with 334bhp and 516lb ft of torque. The £87,653 Porsche Cayenne has a 4.8-litre petrol V8 with 500bhp and the same torque figure as the Range Rover. Let battle commence.
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2:31 "...and that's because it steers so nicely" proceeds to nearly crash
I that too
😂😂
Thought I was the only one that noticed that 😂 probably texting!
Me too. You want to talk instant sweat under the arms. This ass end bounced and came around like a fat bottom girl. Watch the Porsche on the same road, at the same spot, and it’s planted.
@@occultustactical6138 LOL "fat bottom girl" says it perfectly...
I recently went through the decision process between these 2 phenomenal vehicles and would agree the Rover is tons more comfortable on the road. That is if going in a straight line is your thing. I ended up choosing the Cayenne turbo first because a car in the shop isn't as comfortable as one on the road and in my opinion the Cayenne is much more reliable. After driving both, I could not get over the drive capabilities of the Cayenne, no comparison.
The actual competitor for the Porsche cayenne is the range rover sport
I agree
At 2:32 looks like he almost lost control
He did! 🤣
I just bought a Porsche Cayenne Turbo after selling my 997 911 Turbo. The Range Rover for me is for guys who wear turtle necks and Tweed jackets for stodgy trips to the weekend estate. Not to mention the reliability of the RR is the stuff of legends as they seem to spend an inordinate amount of time in the shop, forcing their owners to drive one of their other five cars.
The Porsche just says let’s go find a nice back road or hit the Autobahn for quick run up to 175 mph. I’m curious if the Porsche that was tested had the optional air suspension? I’ve been told and seen on other videos that can be quite soft when it needs to be. I won’t take delivery of mine until later this week so I can’t say from experience.
"You can thread it really accurately down the road... and thats because it steers so nice" nearly dies at 2:31
the reviewed sure does love his cars ... especially if they are British!
It's like choosing between a Rolls Royce and an M5. Ofcourse the brits will prefer the softer more luxurious one but you can NOT deny both are good at the things they're aiming at despite being 4 door saloons. Get my point?
Lol, totally agree.
2:32
"you can thread it accurately down the road because it steers so well" lol
ya as soon as i heard his accent i knew a strong bias was waiting for me at the end of the video
even though in another video he chose porsche
i have driven both cars and let me tell you this... porsche cayenne its so so much better than R R.... i couldnt wait to drive the porsche again and again its addictive
xhoi96 i have both, the RR is better ride ... nicer ..... the Pcar quality is better ..
***** because it like buying a rolls royce or a 911... the car guy in you will always choose the car that is more involving and sporting n nature
+perrogaruao haha in your dreams loser ! you own nothing but a peasant skoda ! fuck u
range rover sport 5.0l superchanged is the one to compare to the porsche v8 petrol ??
Great review!
Comparing different variations of each car , we went for the cayenne. The Range Rover quality didn't compare to the quality of the cayenne. On the other hand both good cars.
"The gearbox" and I grew up 40km from the ZF head quarters… got to love it
I sat in one of these at a recent local auto show. I got in it with the windows up, closed the doors and touched everything within reach. What a beautiful car.
nice review mr. sutcliffe. Well done making a definite, uncompromised judgement.
2:32 UNDERCONTROL LOL!!!
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the funny think is in his review of the porsche cayenne he said it and here i quote "show me a range rover that drives like this and i will show you a lair" so which one is it ? make up ur mind plz !
Good review
Especially when you're talking up the smoothness of the ride when I can hear the bumps in my sub and see the camera shaking as you hit them.
Exactly my point of view - I also noticed this on the website.
Thank you! So true.
This review couldn't be any more bias. "Wafting" and performance are complete opposite yardsticks to begin with. So, I am scratching my head how can you compare comfort with speed and handling ? While I agree the Range Rover is a lovely place to be if you want a relaxing drive, you cannot deny the Porsche Cayenne Turbo or Turbo S are the undisputed King Of SUVs when it comes to performance. Plus, the Range Rover is hugley expensive, I just can't get over the fact how a diesel Range Rover can be more expensive than a Porsche Cayenne Turbo which apart from the Turbo S is at the top of its range ? And the Cayenne is not small at all, the difference is when you drive the Range Rover you really feel like you are driving a truck whereas the Cayenne feels more like a performance car. I would take the Cayenne Turbo any day and twice on weekends !!
You want a Cayenne because its feels like a performance car, but not everyone wants a performance SUV or turbo's, regardless of price. Some buyers, might simply want comfort, and a luxurious look and feel. This reviewer preferred the Macan over the Evoque, even though the test was mostly on road, which favours the Macan. That off road test, was very weak . The Macan was more expensive, designed to be sporty, and had a 3L V6 engine compared to the Evoque's 2L 4cylinder. but the majority still thought he was fair. Bias works both ways.
carbiify Let's be honest here, most reviewers will tell you is unlikely the buyers of such high end SUVs will take them offroad. Even if they did the chances are it wouldn't be some hardcore offroad proving grounds. But, Sutcliffe's review of the Mccan and Evoque was far more objective in my opinion when he just compared performance between the 2 cars. The difference of the 2 reviews is here between the Cayenne and Range Rover right off the bat he didn't want to talk about the performance and essentially just went straight to comfort or to be more precise he wanted to use comfort as the defining yardstick. You said some people may prefer comfort, I agree and I don't have a problem with that, but by the same token some people may prefer performance too. So, my question is how could Sutcliffe say "if you have to choose between the 2 cars it has to be the Range Rover" ? On what basis ? That to me is bias. He could have said if you want comfort pick the Range Rover or if you want performance then pick the Cayenne. Fair ?
Alex Fu
With the Evoque V Macan comparision. He still should have given both a proper off road test regardless of what the owner will do with them. They are both 4WD, so work them over in the rough, but I have to agree with you with this test. He should have summarized the capabilities of both SUV's, which would give the potential customer a better idea if they had to choose, based on what they need. A draw would have been fairer.
Agreed
how soon before it breaks down??
The dude drifted a range rover for a little . RESPECT !!!! (Y)
speak closer to the mike ...please!!
they just insulted the porsche .. Cayenne is like a sports cars shaped as a suv .. he shouldnt have compare them ..
I would just like to point out that the new Range Rover is significantly lighter than you suggest it is in this video, even though you list it correctly in the stats. The weights for the new Rangie are:
3.0 V6 Diesel - 2160 kg
4.4 V8 Diesel - 2360 kg
5.0 V8 Petrol - 2330 kg
Making the Cayenne 190kg lighter not "half a tonne less" as Steve says in the video.
They are cars with diferent purposes, but these cars have more or less the same price, and the same category. That's why they are commonly compared.
errmm why does the audio sound cracking......and very soft compare to other youtube vid?
He said it feels huge I want to see him drive Cadillac Escalade ESV
+cameron-scott smith
yeah man....it still only seats 5 and the boot/ trunk isnt all that spacious.Thing is cars like the Infiniti QX80 (similar exterior dimensions) are much more spacious and seat 7 and costs a little less, refinement admittedly when compared to say the QX80 is pretty close.
lol
Anyone hear what was been said?
Completely with you on that.
Good review, but the closest Cayenne to the RR SDV8 is S Diesel.
Well said mate ...
just ordered the new range rover, cant wait!
Having owned both, I can say that the Cayenne is head & shoulders above the Range Rover when it comes to handling and practicalty.
Practicality? No, never.
@@hexagonosaurus5848 Range Rover= Service Shop.
I think they only compare marks that have released totally new models the segment so may thr new MB wasn't changed from the previous year.
just look under crossover in wikipedia and you will see it being listed there along with other tall cars
2:32 at very low speed almost loose control with range rover, with the porsche that wont happen at all and for me safety is very important too....
also there are many comfortable suv out there and as luxurious. but its really hard to find a suv like porsche cayanne and a bmw x5. they both rock and out of the ordinary
Between 2:30 - 2:35 the Range Rover looks as poised as Steve Sutcliffe tight-rope walking. An stark contrast to what he says about the new Range Rover having excellent handling.
i have a 09 cayenne S with 7.000 miles and i just bought a vogue tdv8 2017
Hahaha
The previous Range Rover model has a better look i rekon
a 6 minute 20 seconds long video,6 minutes dedicated to praising the RR,20 seconds to dump on the Cayenne.Yes Autocar way to go.Very credible and not biased at all.
I agree compare the range against the G65 ttv12
you're right, i realized that too.
Haven't been in the new range rover but I did a 800 km road trip in a cayenne and I can imagine what he is saying with the differences. I would go the sportier route and choose the porsche perhaps but I can imagine for pure comfort then Range Rover would be amazing!
do a cayenne turbo vs macan turbo pls
2:31 whoa tail going out a bit there
There is something about the Cayenne's styling that never made it for me,although it must have one of the best sorted chassis.
The RR on the other hand is majestic.Like the Queen it maneges to be powerful and look good every time anywhere.
Hey Autocar:
Speeding up the video at spots to make cars look like they are going faster than they are?
BUSTED!
Completely Different cars. I love Range Rover but u can't compare any SUV with the Cayenne. Cayenne is absolutely amazing
Too bad we don't get the diesel here but I'm glad I convince my mother to buy the Range Rover (or be it the Sport) It means I get to drive it sometimes and feel smug..lol
I suppose the Rangie is more comfortable, but I wonder about the reliability of the notoriously dodgy Range Rover. My understanding is the Cayenne is pretty bullet proof.
The range rover "sport" version is what I would compare it against but as said previously its not been released yet so maybe that's why they chose the full blown range
Must agree to Shtrudell that this seamed a bit biased - for SUV´s i love both of these cars and usually also these reviews.
if the range was built by VW Audi group or Mercedes, I would definitely agree with you ... but it's built by Tata Motors ... so the Porsche it's by far the winner
Not built by them owned by them. Built near Birmingham
okay so then who owns the factory?
Mihai5332 Range Rover is made in Uk no matter what the owner of company is.
The fact is Tata motors is very good as investments with over 3.9 billion in 2019 and help company be at the best as engineering ,production,inovation !
Well, I didn't realize that the Cayenne diesel was available here. Good to know.
G-class in any case.
Plus, range rovers depreciate like hell. In couple of years you lose half of it's original price.
They're still a magazine first, so what little tidbits we get on CZcams are just highlight reels filmed while they test for print as far as I can surmise. I agree that the pairing of the Cayenne Turbo and diesel Range Rover is inappropriate. One could make the counterargument of price similarity, but the Autobiography editions add a hefty premium to the Range Rover's price tag. Of course the Turbo is going to ride harsher. I would assume a V6 or diesel Cayenne is probably more comfortable.
Ok, Steve said the car weighs 2.6 tonnes but a min later the fact sheet says it wieghs 2,360 Kg, (2.3). Which is it? And why compare a Cayenne turbo to a diesel Range Rover?
I see that now but he never mentioned how much lighter it is than the previous version.
so the range rover SPORT didnt changed?
"You just wanna bubble about in it" he says as he speeds past at 60 MPH.
Can't hear anything, why should I always have to turn up the volume ridiculous levels? Fix This!
Where do you live for the RR to be rare? I see those giant shoe boxes on wheels everywhere.
yes, but up to the 3rd generation models... now they are quite reliable. my dad has a 3rd generation and it has only broke down once in 5 years and that was because my mum accidentally put petrol on the diesel engine
I would think that's why the review (did you watch it?) concluded that it's not really fair to compare the two.
That may be true, but both have flawless execution.
that was what i was thinking...
Why are we comparing the RR diesel to the petrol-powered Cayenne Turbo when there's a Cayenne diesel option?
You do actually also see it on Top Gear.
Did he say that in a vehicle that weigh half a ton less?
I thought the Cayenne isn't that lighter than the new RR
I think with a Range Rover you're somewhat left wanting for actual competitors. The Cayenne's design brief was always very different to the RR. Whilst they compete on price, I would guess the buyer profiles are rather different.
The only thing that's comparable to the RR would be the Lexus LX570. But again, the LX is built off the Land Cruiser so doesn't have the bespoke design of the RR and it is also quite a lot older. Will have to wait and see what a new LX will be like for competition.
Ask and you shall receive. Diesel is available! It has been offered here in the States for the last 6 months or so.
the reason it is mainly about the Range Rover is because IT IS A REVIEW OF A NEW CAR. the porsche is only there to show how much more advanced the Ranger Rover is
Not only did he start driving the porsche at 3:30 (that's halfway through the video if you're still in middle school and havent figured out time yet) but he said everything you'd expect to hear from any review of both cars. the range is a luxury tank and the porsche is a sports car with enough room for the kids. what else were you expecting?
Don't agree; he describes how quick and sports-car like the Cayenne is compared to any car, let alone the RR, but there's no denying the RR is an incredible luxury achievement. And that's a view that other non-UK car-mags have echoed, so it's not bias.
My friend has a 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 and has never had a problem with it. I know Range Rovers of old were notoriously dodgy but I don't believe that is the case anymore.
I think the RR Sport is a more appropriate rival for the cayenne, more specifically the supercharged iteration.
that is very true, im fairly sure these cars are about 80k each... so you could easily get a serious coupe with that money.. i guess its down to the individual needs of the owner. Personally id get a used defender and a golf, then keep the extra cash!! :)
I had a last of the L322 TDV8 4.4. Such a disappointment, its got zero driver engagement and the engine disappointing. I waaaay preferred my old Cayenne Turbo S. So the next for me will be a 2011+ Cayenne S Diesel.
you compared the wrong range. you needed the supercharged gas.
Erm, why are you comparing a diesel with a petrol? Why not compare the RR with the Cayene Diesel S? And yes, like everyone else said, of course a brit would be biased towards the RR
Just two things, first of all solve the audio problem, macbook pro full volume and stil can not hear a word you say (only with this channel). Second, what about the incredible offroad side of the Range Rover?
Merc GL is a grand car, I agree, closer in size and confort to the Range Rover, but then, the Rover looks more the part, I think. The big Merc looks like a Big Merc, it does not distinguishes itself enough in my opinion.
Got out of this review what I already knew: Range Rover is for Comfort - Cayenne Turbo for pace. Next time try the 5.0 Supercharged Vogue instead.
but if you wanted something as fast as the Porsche, wouldn't you just get the V8 petrol in the Range Rover?
Wish this guy would speak up and cheer up
Wow a smart Yank! What stats, whose stats? Mines 148 by the way!
Horsepwer, torque, comfort and ride quality are all that matter.
true - the Range Rover sport would have been a better choice in this comparison, but I still think that the conclusion still sticks, but that is just my personal opinion and it may vary from person to person. Wish that they would redo this once the sport comes out though...
You can open up two tabs on your browser and look up specs and compare them. But the question answered here is how those all come together and how they were put to work in their vehicles. For what they are, you would have to be a Porsche-phile, or performance is just your "cup of tea", to want the Cayenne. The Range Rover simply has Luxury down solid, real off-road cred, and a much more dignified look. The Brits would pick British. But the fact is, the Range Rover is the better luxury SUV.
Even good old Clarkson talks shit about all American cars on his show but later talks about his top ten cars he would want to own a Corvette is on his list. It's just to keep his audience happy, and being a show on BBC this is his list of best cars. British, UK, European, Japanese and then American. Regardless of how good they may or may not be.
Diesel engines are getting more economical too. In the near future, the internal pressure will increase 2-3 times and that's going to help at gas pumps.
actually unlike most big modern SUVs, the Cayenne is pretty much on par with the RR when it comes to off road driving. It has gone tons of electronics to keep it going through the toughest terrains. RR may be slightly better at coping with the rough stuff but the Cayenne is better than you'ld expect it to be.
This "review" only needs the "god save the queen" and a Winston Churchill quote against germans to be a perfect pamphlet
merc gl ml,jeep grand cherokee,lexus lx,land cruiser these are some of the choices,if u say range rover is the best luxo offroader suv can u please prove this with honest video with its competitors and i know its its handles like Chelsea tractor in the road and i think originally land rover used a jeep chassis to develop them and at last if i want british cars i would have xj,xf,db9 and many more not the rangie(even though its one of the best looking suv)