The Founders of Great Houses (Game of Thrones)
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So if the the first tale about Lann the clever is to be believed, he was basically a Scooby Doo villain.
😂😂😂
Lann: and i would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids and your dog
@@SRVaris
He did get away with it as there were neither meddling kids around nor a dog
Indeed. No meddling teens back then
Luckily for him the mystery gang wouldn't be born for another hundreds and hundreds of years
GRRM has also said he regrets calling all nobility "lord" rather than calling minor nobility "duke" or "baron" or something to make their rank more clear.
Milkma Duke
It would make it less fantastic and more linked to reality ... so not such a good idea
Where did he say this? Source?
@@mimiel7938 The Links to reality is why Game of Thrones is a Masterpiece, the fuck are you saying
Dukes are much higher than lords in reality (Duke of Cambridge - Prince William)
Other Houses:we made a sword from comets,we built the strongest castles,We Married a god
Frey’s:We Built A Bridge and also we caused a mini downfall off the starks
Tender Shy mini? That was a pretty big downfall seeing as no males in the Stark family can have kids. Unless you count Rickon in the books
Ethan Jolles I mean Bran probably could but he’ll need some help and possibly Jon Snow even if he’s half stark but he’s also King of the free people now and I doubt he’s gonna live like a member of the Nights Watch
Since Sansa is now Queen of the North she can pass on her name to her children.
deg1studios you don’t know how monarchies work. Look at Queen Elizabeth II. She married Philip Mountbatten but all of her children have her last name of Windsor. That’s what will happen with Sansa.
deg1studios GRRM based these novels on English history you dolt.
Damn, if the hightower was taller than the wall the hightowers must take hours climbing stairs unless they build an elevator
@Adversary VR I do not believe that is true, Casterly Rock is situated on a mountain. If we just look at the castle itself, then Casterly Rock is not nearly as tall as The Wall or The Hightower.
@@armaghan6223 castlerly rock is not on a mountain. It is in the mountain, like erebor.
You can imagine a 300m tower having a base that could fit 20 castles. Lighting is gonna be big problem though
Probably some type of internal lift like The Wall having the winch system at Castle Black
@@alexanderward5286 and an amazing pulley system since just a little kid can lift up 5 grown men without much effort
Is it really hard to believe that Brandon The Builder’s lifespan was expanded by his interactions with The Children Of The Forrest?
Yes
@@scapeghost4212 magic for longevity.
@@scapeghost4212 not if youre at all familiar with ASOIAF, no
@@scapeghost4212 The fire witch is hundreds of years old but she doesn't count aye.
maybe they stuck magic wood up his ass.
Old Town is still the richest city in Westeros. King's Landing is larger but poorer.
And hotter!
and you can smell the shit from 5 miles away
And smellier (You can smell the shit five miles away).
And it hadn’t sacked... yet. If Euron captures it, it’ll be sacked.
Sometimes I wish A song of ice and fire was adopted into animation so they don't cut as much stuff like they are doing in the show. There is so much epic shit that the show-runners either have no 'budget' for or no time to include!
Absolutely agree they should have hired the japanese guy from howls incredible moving castle
Or D&DB have no ability to write for..
If good animation on the scale of GoT, Animation is more expensive than live-action.
hi Randy
Or just read the books
when you realize Highgarden was much more fab in the books
In the show it was more like slightly elevated garden.
If you think highgarden didnt live up to its book hype, younshould rewatch and read about the eerie. The show version was beautifully done, but still paled in comparison to its book description. Also casterly rock also got the short end of the stick
@@Detheroc420 Yeah casterly Rock was such a disappointment. They should never have gone there if they knew they couldn't Do it justice.
Some people have created these castles with pc apps i mean the real winterfel according to the books is 10 times bigger than the TV version it would be very intresting if a good open world game was build based on the books
@@MsJavaWolf lord tyrells of slightly elevated garden i like this
I think you can consider House Velaryon to be a great house in the first 2 centuries of the Targaryen dynastie. They married frequently with the Targaryen and were usually Master of Ships. At the time of the dance of the dragons Corlys Velaryon was said to be the wealthiest man in the seven kingdoms and his house with him
House velaryon was actually stated to be small house by GRRM in Fire and blood. They were in favour with the targeryans because of their valerian blood. They and weren't exactly rich until one of their lords (corlys I think) went on several voyages and made great fortune for their house, even making them richer than the Lannisters for a while. They used part of this fortune to build a great fleet. For some time, they were as powerful and rich as any other great house, but they weren't a great house.
@@agroall9965 Actually, Corlys didn't have enough time to spend his fortune, because during Dance of the Dragons mercenaries from Three Dothers (Myr, Lys and Pentos, but I'm not sure about the last one) attacked Driftmark and stole everything they found.
@@theultumateprezes6379 Wow, I didn't know that, where did you see that?
@@agroall9965 Fire and Blood.
@@theultumateprezes6379 still House Velaryon continued to be a rich and powerfull house for several years, don't forget Alys Velaryon also travelled far east and found several treasures there.
And the third daughter was Tyrosh, not Pentos
House...of High Tower?
By God, only a genius would name their house such a beautiful name.
Hightower is a real name, so I'd refer to imagine that they already had that name and thought they'd live in a high tower for the lolz. You're probs right though.
In times before, nobles would choose their family name from their location. For example, House of York lived in York.(The location was first).
Szeth-Son-Son-Vallano Truthless of Shinovar not to mention people named themselves after their trades or religion. Smith, Baker, de La Cruz, Moses, etc.
yeah lol and it’s a real surname. i know like three people with the last name hightower.
@@faijja_a_ Madeline Hightower from the mentalist
now that i think of it.. they made bran like peter baelish in the final season. bran uses chaos to climb the ladder to end up as a king.
Do you think it's what he wanted though? Or just felt it was destined or necessary?
mark milshtein chaos is a ramp
The book bran and show bran are two very different beings. In the books he is literally the new God of the world so him becoming ruler of westeros makes perfect sense. Show bran is just a glorified warg, he didnt really accomplish shit with his greenseering and greenvision
@@Detheroc420 yeah he didn't actually contribute anything in the show.. Captain Hindsight
@@Drake2JD bruh
I honestly think Bran The Builder did live as long as he did through the Children Of The Forest’s magic
I think GRRM's histories are meant to be kinda unreliable. Like the great houses weren't founded 10,000 years ago they were founded like 1,000 years ago.
I am having a hard time believing the white walkers would wait for 10000 years to attack again. 1000 makes more sense as the number of white walkers was pretty low.
@@rhorynotmylastname7781 if the great houses were formed 1000 years ago and the wall was build around the same time then there's no way people would forget about the others and magic not in a God fearing world like asoiaf
Even in the real world the tiniest of battles from 1000 years ago have a major impact even today
I'd say somewhere around 3000 to 5000 years
My only issue with that is a thousand years is a long time but key information wasent lost if people in Europe could remember Rome for that long people would remember the closest humanity every went to total and utter annihilation@@rhorynotmylastname7781
I work with a tier system:
Tier 1: royals & regional overlords (Targ, Lannister, etc.)
Tier 2: major vassals (Karstark, Frey, Blackwood, etc.)
I consider tier 1 and 2 great houses.
Tier 3: minor vassals, houses with hereditary positions (Cassel, Baelish until recently, Seaworth)
Tier 4: People with a title, but no land or position to pass on (every hedgeknight, Bronn until WoW)
A change usually needs a generation or two to manifest.
Houses like Goodmen and Summerchild were banned from the meta, they're just too powerfull.
Its very Accurate
There is only 9 great houses
Starks,Tullys,Arryns,Grejoys,Targaryens,Tyrells,Martells,Baratheons,Lannisters.
@@unhappyad7886 That's "a question for the philosophers", as Olenna Tyrell would put it.
These 9 houses were the regional overlords at the start of the story.
Houses rise and fall. Some of the tier 1 houses have lost their power (Stark; Tully) or are in a weak position (Lannister). Other houses have or will take their positions, most likely tier 2 houses like Bolton or Frey. Maybe not for long, maybe for a generation or two (in these cases the first option).
But sometimes, the takeover last for centuries. A tier 2 house becomes a tier 1 house. Happened with the Tullys after Aegon's Conquest. That's why I call tier 1 & 2 great houses: every tier 2 house has the potential to overthrow the current regional overlord. Wait a couple generations and the change is fully accepted.
@@bartimaeusofuruk9681 I think you have knowledge about how much these tire 2 House posses Land and Military....and what happen to their relatives and uncle uncle's Children, when the Seat passed to another relatives or House.
whycreate+ the first Stark or the founder is Bran the Builder, pretty poetic then that most likely the last Stark(male) would be called Bran the Broken.
Bran built House Stark and Bran broke House Stark.
"That's some awfully stark irony," said the lion with a wolfish grin.
Seriously, Why do people think Bran will be the last Stark?
In the show; Sansa is the Queen. She can just name her children Stark if she wants.
In the books; Rickon is still alive and we don't know if Bran really can't have children. Even if he can't and Rickon were to somehow die then Sansa's children or whoever is Bran's heir will be named Stark.
House Stark is not going extinct anytime soon at least not in the show, the books are still incomplete so who knows.
@@mrweirdguy5249 Agreed. There's another possibility: Jon Snow may choose to "forget" his Targaryen side and the next monarch could legitimize him. (I'm only part way through DoD but I don't think it will cover his lineage?) That would be in keeping with GRRM's strong theme of names and titles being far less important than the man himself. And that the best men in power are those who don't want it. Sansa wants power. What u think?
@@sedge6591 It could happen. Jon Snow considers himself more of a Stark than a Targaryen anyway.
Mr Weird Guy plus in the books he’s not even a Targaryen
Man House Baelish's sigil is awesome! A knight's face with a steel helmet on and flames coming out of his eyes.
The sigil is supposed to be the titan of Bravoos, because littlefinger's grandfather was a sellsword from there
David Lintl Would have been cool to see a stronger connection with Baelish and Essos sell swords on the show. It may have paid off down the line either with the Golden Company or the Second Sons.
But the only Baelish flag they are selling is the yellow/golden one with the mockingbird. It is cool but it would be more fitting to have the real House Baelish flag.
House Bealish words "Chaos is a ladder"
Westeros feudality : The King --> The Intendents (Starks, Tyrell) --> The bannermen (Hightower, Bolton) ---> Smaller Lords (Rowan, Velaryon, etc) ---> Landlords (Osgris, Tyssier)
It's actually stated that your 'bannermen' have their subordinate houses that are also called bannermen.For example House Forester were bannermen for house Karstark I believe (maybe it was some different northern house of the same tier)
there are great houses but there are great channels as well.
I nominate this channel to be one of the great ones.
I Swear Fealty to this Channel as a Loyal.
This channel needs its own house sigil!!!
@@russianwater1655 yeah
@@bittu2507 LONG MAY HE POST
@@sheldon-cooper long may he post
The Great Houses are the houses that rule Kingdoms
So only the Starks, Greyjoys, lannisters, Arryn, Tully, Baratheons, Tyrells and the Martells
The rest are just Noble Houses.
You're forgetting Greyjoy
What about the targaryens
There is more than one interpretation in the lore as to what is considered a great house.
awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Great_houses
And even if we used your definition that list would still include Baelish, Bolton, Gardener, etc.
@@drethethinker6418 Baelish???? What??? 😒
Yusef N Targeryans conquered westeros. They have only been in westeros for 300 years. Not really one of the great houses
How did Bran the builder produce so many buildings in his life time? Usually a castle or cathedral architect never sees just one creation finish
GRRM quoted it as an example of bullshit story that people will accept as a foundation myth.
Its not Bran the builder its Brans the builders
@@ses2602 I think there is historical evidence of House Stark being founded by a guy called Bran, but I think he only advised Duran as a child and helped build the Wall.
Well, i see two solutions:
1: Actually, at the begin of ASOIAF, there is like approximatively 2 billions of people in Westeros. And the North and Riverlands have like a quarter of all this people, so workmen aren't that hard to find.
2: Very probably a HUGE LOT of Brandons who have build things around Westeros. And also, the people of Westeros think that it was 8000 years ago. The Maesters think that it was only 1700 years ago, so, they think that Brans lived a very long time, and, well a lot of mishaps and errors in the stories... all of this together make Brans the Builder story
And have a nice day
@@votre_il8802 the maesters are the ones who believe it was 8,000 years ago. The common lore spoken by the common folk state it was 6,000.
I just realized what House Bolton's banner was
....lovely
Really subtle, is it not?
Legend has it they wore cloaks made of skin, as well. And one of their ancestors, Royce the Redarm would rip the entrails out of captive prisoners.
Kind of scary heh?
Most of Europe's royalty and formal royalty are closely related through figures like Charlemagne and Queen Victoria, so a bunch of houses being descended from Greenhand isn't farfetched.
And next time: the roast of house Gardener.
The roast of house Hoare
@@moiserares6974 The Baking of House Hoare.
Balerion’s Banquet
I hope house Dayne has a bigger role in the books
Not much by the end of ASOS: There are a couple of intrigues and murders, Lord Edric, Lord of Stormfall, travels with the Brotherhood, and nobody wields Dawn.
If the next book ever comes out, I can guarantee we will hear about Darkstar more. He’s considered “the most dangerous man in Dorne” in ADWD.
@@CommanderOfRussia1 Winds of Winter will come out... Eventually. The problem is the last book
@@CommanderOfRussia1 and if I remember correctly he wants to claim dawn
And GRRM didnt give us the words of the house since it would spoil too much so there is that
Be cool to see the origin of House Mormont
Probably involves alot of bears but far more brawls with the Ironborn. Their island is literally the Ironborn's tree nursery.
It was won from the Ironborn by the Starks in a contest and given to the Mormonts
How about a video on the valyrian steel family swords in westeros?
Jaime Perez and the one axe
Carl who has an axe??
Odin666 House Celtigar
A great house is a house that rules over one of the constituent provinces like the North or the Westerlands. Its a house that holds the title of paramont lord so there are 9 of them at the start of the story
I know they are extinct but house reyne of castamere were an ancient and wealthy house in the westerlands second only to the lannisters
anthony lotts because they borrowed from the Lannister’s because Titos was a pushover
Cool story, can you go and quote the show some more? Or is that the depth of your vast knowledge?
I don't get with them being so wealthy why borrow money from the Lanisters?
Wasn't that only during the age of heroes and after that they started fading in wealth and power.
@@dylansmith9112 you can check the story of Rains of castamere
I can’t express how much I absolutely love these videos, awesome ,whycreate keep up the good work my man
Thanks Daman
I feel every family in GOT has a common name like The Stark has Brandn and the Targaryen has Aegon
Didn't know that the Hightower was taller than the Wall! You learn something new everyday.
Thankyou, whycreate!
Have read the books twice, felt the horror of what happened to the show, and spend many hours watching theory videos and listening to live-streams that take you *way* down the rabbit hole, though for education on the World of Ice and Fire, I always go to you 😏
Thank you for another great video. It’s clear that you work really hard in order to deliver such high quality. I really appreciate you!
Dude, your videos are by far the best in regards to the Game of Thrones universe! So much material to cover but you do it so, so well! Can’t wait for the next book!
House Gardner got rosted XD That craked me up
I almost expected you to go, “Later Bran the Builder would go on to build the Orthinac for Saruman the White and constructing Carparavel for House Pevency of Narnia.”
(I know I misspelled stuff.)
House Bolton is a great house though, and we never heard of its founder.
No word are coming to my mind, just love your content keep it up 4ever mate
Do a video on Ser Arthur Dayne!
Yeah
Love your videos! They’re well researched and well done!
I’d argue against including Baelish as a great house simply because he cannot field an army.
waiting for a new video and here it is!
This guy is amazing we need more videos like the one he makes
Bran the builder can we found it? Yes we can!
Building walls
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I found this channel like 2 days ago and am now binging all of the content
Great video! Maybe you can make a series for all of the castles of the great houses? Like their definitions and how they look like and the stories behind them?
Great video, can't wait for the next one!
May I take this Time to thank you? I will anyway. :)
Thanks for being my "waiting lobby" to game of thrones!
I really enjoy the content, keep it up!
Dorne - Spain
The Reach - France
The North - Scotland
Westerlands - Germany
Crownlands - England
Stormlands - Wales
Iron Islands - Norway, Sweden and Denmark
The Vale - Switzerland
The Riverlands - The low countries
Hayden Lau the vale would be austria
The North would be the North of England, the Crownlands would be Southern England and Beyond the wall would be Scotland. If looking at historical influence like the war of the roses and Hadrian’s wall blocking off the scots.
I wish we could learn more about House Dayne. I’d love to see starfall
Great House are the Houses that rule 9 region, the rest are just Noble Houses
awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Great_houses
You are right but there is more than one definition and interpretations as to what great houses are.
I am addicted to your videos
Dude, these are great
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I wish you good health
Take your time to heal we can wait and thank for the great videos which I really like
Don't even worry about making vids when you're ill, look after yourself dude
whycreate get well soon...and thank you for the good work despite of being sick. ☺️
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The Dance wasn't really a Targaryen vs Targaryen conflict, but a Targaryen vs Hightower conflict. And yet when it was over Rhaena was forced to marry another Hightower to usher in peace, when Viserys marrying a Hightower was the initial cause of the war
Hardly Ageon and his siblings are targs
It was more Targaryen + Velaryon vs Targaryen + Hightower conflict.
@@morning8599 I refuse to consider Aegon and his brood as true Targaryens. In the end none of the greens survived so all is well
What means "true Targaryens"?
Aegon, Aemond, Daeron and Helaena are trueborn Targaryens, they had all the hallmark physical features of Targaryens, silver Valyrian hair, purple eyes etc and all of them were proven dragonlords, there is no evidence to say that they were anything but Targaryens. If you consider them as Hightowers then you might as well consider Rhaenyra as an Arryn since its the same line of reasoning
I guess house Blackwood is one of the oldest and also one of the few if not the only one that has been kings of two different kingdoms, the north and the riverlands, and father house of justman dinasty, so many wars have made them minor since they always seem to be involved on them.
Thanks for the info pal
Man you like Petyr Baelish you want to see him succeed come on man that death on the TV show was much fitting for him I do understand your point the books definitely gave him more range then on the show but on the show he really did not have much left to do.
I really really want a prequel set during The Age Of Heroes
Like my dude before me, I nominate you as warrant of the title of "Warden of the Tales". May you continue to spread the knowledge even better than the maesters 🙏🏾
The only thing that I wish to tell you is Thank You.
Your videos are very interesting.
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You always make quality videos... i get tired of all of the other channels and the clickbait "leaks"
I Hawthorne ikr? People are making 10 min videos about 2 second clips
@@aegontargaryen8307 ikr? Yes thats exactly what i mean "season 8 leaks!!" From literally like 2 blurry frames haha its ridiculous or they type up a script and say a secret source leaked it to them from hbo haha
I didn't know Littlefinger had MF Doom as his sigil
Doritos Cheetos or Fritos
RIP
Chaos is a LADDAHH.
This would be a great prequel TV show
At last, I found someone who finally agree to me that Petyr Baelish was killed in a pathetic way in the show
I've never seen so much bad fanservice in one scene
Probably wasn't intended but I found it interesting that Nymeria brought the sun sigil and Martel represents a spear. This can represent several significant interpretations: The male line represents a spear or the male gamete while the female line represents a sun or a female gamete and together a pierced sun represents fertilization which lines up perfectly to Dorne's traditions as a sexually liberal kingdom. Lann the Clever was said to steal gold from the sun which shines his hair, Dorne's symbol as killing the sun can represent the Martells would ultimately defeat the Lannisters in a future confrontation. Finally, the symbol of a speared sun which represents this Dornish house as literally conquering the sun which is a environmental hazard of Dorne and strikingly similar to the Starks representing their home as Winterfell, the home that has conquered winter and is on the opposite side of Westeros.
GRRM's symbolism is on point.
Dorne and martells always fascinated me
"God's grief"
Gardeners and Lannisters went into a battle against Aegon called the field of fire. Umm feels similar, in a way Jaime reliving that when the Lannisters faced Dani's forces.
Lot of things that happened in the current storyline are pretty similar to things that have happened in the past. Rob Stark winning multiple battles against the Lannisters, being called the young wolf, and dying young is really similar to Daeron I Targaryen being called the young dragon and his conquest of Dorne. And when the Boltons and Karstarks fought against Jon Snow, it's pretty similar to when the Boltons and Greystarks rebelled against house Stark.
Sigil of House Martell is a spear piercing the sun.Old Sigil was only the spear. And sigil of Nymeria was The sun. I see what they did there (if you know what I mean 😜)
How phallic of them...
this made me wonder how much of real life history of civilizations got lost/we dont know about.
Gotta day I’m really curious about who founded the Targaryens their Valyrian ancestry is really interesting to me
I personally didn't mind Balish's excustion but the events that lead up to his excustion were not handled well
Execution
I mean he will probably be killed by the starks for sewing mistrust but its gonna be much more intent in the books with more build up and not a. "Yep I kill you now."
House Royce is definitely a Great House, just a very very subtle one.
In the books, it is made much clearer than the show, since the show cut all that business with High House Royce and Low House Royce, and who is the rightful heir to the Vale.
But the Royce are not only a huge house, with a presence in both the higher and lower levels of nobility, but they have married in to, or had marry in to them, just about every house in Westeros, large or small.
They have a familial relations to the Arryns, obviously, but also the Tullys, the Starks, the Lannisters the Baratheons and even the Tyrells Martells. They also have ties to all the lesser Houses too. Dustin and Frey and the dozen others. At least if I recall rightly they do. Between the two echelons of House Royce, they've seemingly gone out of their way to place Royce families in all the counties and regions of The Seven Kingdoms.
That alone would have to make them a Great House. Just sheer numbers, range, and presence in Westeros.
But they also do more. They regularly send spare heirs to serve the crown in some way, or some great and powerful personages. They even keep to their old oaths too, and regularly send younger sons to the Nights Watch. It is a Royce we see before anyone else just about in the very beginning of the books. A younger, unneeded Royce son, who fights the Other or whatever.
The North might remember, but Royce's have been there, when it comes to ....just about everything in Westerosi history... somewhere... there is a Royce by some degree of lesser or greater blood, who was there. They date to the First Men as you say.
Even keep to their own traditions and lore, Bronze Yon Royce is called that for that armour the Bronze Kings wore. He wears a suit now. A suit of First Men armour, etched in ancient Runes, with rumour and legend surrounding, supposedly making him immune to all damage or whatnot.
The thing is, all this is kind of all mentioned in passing. Fleeting. Even being introduced to the story through a Royce, is not really something adequately addressed.
So there is little emphasis, until the heir thing comes up, on House Royce, and even less on what it might actually mean they are such an ancient house, so entrenched throughout the Kingdom.
But surely they ARE one. When you ask yourself WHY they still hold to their old traditions, still believe in the threat beyond the wall, and still send young Royce Lords to the Wall, WHY they have seemingly gone out of their way to integrate in to all the other houses, lesser and greater, and establish cadet Houses which perhaps whilst of another name, were born by they, WHY the Patriarch of House Royce still wears artifact armour a thousand years out of date, and even WHY their superiors, or even High House Royce has tolerated a lower, separate, House Royce, almost as if they felt need for their to be not just spare heirs, as dynasties do, but an entire spare line....well when you ask yourself those things, and wind up with a lot of theories, but little concrete answer...well you begin to see Royce in a whole new light, and quickly draw the conclusion there is a possibility they are a lot more powerful and influential, and potentially a lot more important, than we've ever been privy to so far in the stories.
I know its shot out but how crazy would it be if garth greenhand was the night king? They say he could make things bloom walking by which is similar to the ice king bringing winter. Garth brought spring. A bastardization of him as a corrupted magical man would be the ice king...
Nunya Business I’ve never actually thought of that. That would be wild. But it’s most likely someone from the north. It just seems like something GRRM would do
Or maybe his brother maybe he had four brother one brought winter another spring the four seasons you know
Littlefinger's death was poetic because higher you climb farther you have to fall.
Mormont
The best house
House Velaryon! The Lord of the Tides, The Sea Snake, Driftmark
You missed House Mormont
They're not a great house. They're respected, but poor
It seems quite improbable that these lineages can last thousands of years. Don't think anything can last that long in the real life, but then again we'll see.
PRINCE KRAZIE technically, if you count the idea of France or England, not unified Britain, as being relatively unchanged in terms of culture, then both have lasted a thousand years, although neither has had a dynasty lasting that long. I don't know about A England, but France came close, with Charlemagne, if you count his being related to the later royals of France, being king of the Franks sometime in the late 9th century. A little less than a thousand years later, Louis was deposed in the French Revolution, brining to an end the French nobility. That's about nine hundred years, so they got pretty close.
Yeah... the stories in the game of thrones last over 10000 years, and the great houses have been around for at least 6000 years since these founders all lived in the "age of heroes." This sounds quite unrealistic to me.
@@princekrazie Consider the Targaryens. Many died, but because there were so many Targaryens there were always some to replace them. Same could go for other houses, they breed like wildfire.
Monarchy lost power in europe because society advanced, nothing like that happened in Westeros. They've been in some kind of dark age for 8000 years.
Why? Well, the black death killed about a third of europe, therefore laborers weren't as easy to come by. The workers could start making demands, the noble class couldn't deal with it. One thing led to another, and we had enlightenment and industrialization.
Again, Westeros had nothing like that, therefore feudalism is likely to go on.
Idk about landed titles and such but we can trace my family back to the Viking invasions (though the spelling has changed the name has essentially stayed the same) there's been at least 1 male in every generation to keep the name going throughout all of the census' and family trees and diaries and the like
Royal House: House Targaryen (later House Baratheon of Kingslanding)
Great Houses (overlords): Stark, Tully, Arryn, Lannister, Greyjoy, Baratheon of Storms End and Dragonstone, Tyrell, Martell
Powerful Vassals: aka Manderly, Frey, Bolton, Hightower, Redwyne, Yronwood, Harlaw, Dayne, Blackwood, Bracken, Mallister, Royce, Velaryon, Estermont, Penrose, Celtigar, Westerling etc
Smaller vassals (vassals of vassals etc): Cassel, Ashford, Staunton, Poole, Locke, Tollett, Terrick, Thorne, Ambrose, Merryweather, Horpe, Osgrey, Vaith etc
Landed Knights: Boling, Hasty, Drinkwater, Shett, Waxley etc
Hedge Knights: Arlan of Pennytree, Bronn, Humfrey the Mummer, Tallad the Tall, Horrys Hill
So how can Garth Greenhand be the grandfather of Brann The Builder and Lann the Clever if Garth was alive when the First Men came to Westeros 12000 years ago while Bran and Lann were alive during the Age of Heroes 8000 years ago?
1. These storys were passed on by oral tradition for thousands of years, it would be weird if there weren't inconsistencies.
2. Garth Greenhand might've been some kind of fertility god, so he'd be immortal or something.
As many believe here, Brandon the Builder's lifespan was extended due to the magic of the children of the forest.
If so, the Grey King of the Iron Islands is not so far off.
Although some facts such as his long reign and mermaid wive may be exaggerated, we do in fact have evidence of Naga, the sea dragon he killed because his remains are still visible on the island of old Wyk and are used as hall für the kingsmoot.
Maybe that's what brought him some kind of invincibility buff (like the mythos of Sigurd the dragon slayer who bathed in dragons blood) but I'm just speculating here.
I'd be a nice touch nonetheless because as we all know that Targaryens have some kind of dragon blood as well which grants them a certain immunity to sickness
Isn't Beric Dondarrion from a noble house with a purple lightning bolt? I'd have like to hear some of his lore, he's very important in the books.
So the moral of the story is......House Stark is mostly related to most of the Houses.
not only Orys Aegon was friends whit the other guys from his small council I don`t know what he was thinking about Edmyn Tully but he was friends whit Alton Celtigar Osmund Strong and Alyn Stokeworth
Any video you make that includes Littlefinger clearly shows he was your favorite. He was clever but Sansa being more clever because he saw her as his "Cat" and underestimates her doesn't make his demise pathetic...it makes it fitting. The last time he nearly died was because of his love for "Cat" and he prides himself on not making the same mistakes, yet he does in the end again because he sees himself as the one who should be with his "Cat"
The Great Houses of Westeros and their Founders
according to whycreate
1. House Stark - Bran the Builder
2. House Durrandon - Durran Godsgrief
3. House Hightower - Uthor of the High Tower
4. House Lannister - Lann the Clever
5. House Gardener - Garth the Gardener
6. House Tyrell - Alester Tyrell
7. House Baratheon - Orys Baratheon
8. House Targaryen - unknown for they originated from Valyria but Aenar Targaryen is the head of the House during the fall of the Freehold
9. House Martell - founded by Morgan Martell and later on the house became House Nymeros-Martell for Princess Nymeria of Rhoyne married Mors Martell during the Nymeria’s Wars at Dorne
10. House Tully - Axell Tully
11. House Greyjoy - unknown but claimed descent to The Grey King. And during Aegon’s Conquest, Vickon Greyjoy was voted to be the ruler of the Iron Islands making House Greyjoy their ruler ever since.
12. House Arryn - Artys Arryn
13. House Royce
14. House Baelish - Petyr Baelish father
15. House Frey
16. House Bolton
17. House Manderly
18. House Yronwood
19. House Dayne
imagine if somehow game of thrones and StarWars toke place in the same universe
House Tarly, House Florent, House Reyne aaand that's it
Can't believe lann finessed casterly rock like that
I’m almost positive these are legendary figures who have sort of become an amalgam of multiple figures from the past. Especially Bran the Builder. That had to be generations of Starks…although I suppose it is possible a powerful Stark could have certain magics that some consider to be…unnatural
Barrowtown is also a city in the North
What about the Mormonts, Umbers, and Karstarks?
I believe the Hightowers were colonists from a more (than Westeros) developed part of Essos.
House Bolton I love there history
I'd say the great houses are the houses that controlled a kingdom, so stark (north), Lannister (westerlands), Baratheon (stormlands), tyrell (reach), etc
I'm pretty sure the Great Houses are those who owe their allegiance directly to the king, and the lesser houses are those who serve as their bannermen. And Oldtown, says GRRM, was "among the oldest and proudest of the Great Houses of Westeros".
@@sedge6591 that's more or less what I mean, except for the hightower one, he doesn't really specify that term
House Frey was obviously founded by Argus filch
Do video on best bastards and there cool story (Daemon Blackfry)
Were the targs a great house in Valyrian society?
Really think this video could have been expanded much farther, so many more houses to talk about the founders of