im far more curious why the child was compelled to act that way. that means at the age of 6 he acted out a violent crime that almost killed someone. that's a lot of emotions that aren't being properly expressed.
@@CircumcisionIsChildAbuse they are children. You expect children to display emotional inhibition and control? Most adults even can't properly behave. They're SIX.
@@sethblvck it definitely starts at home because thats where they got the firearm in the first place. Kids that age stupid, that's why they shouldnt be around fuckin guns.
I think court ordered psychiatric help would be more beneficial for the 6 year old than detention, because it’s VERY concerning that someone his age would be capable of that. I’m not a psychologist or psychiatrist, but that sounds like sociopathy or psychopathy and it needs to be addressed so they can function in adulthood
A psycopath is born one. So yeah if that kid ends up being diagnosed as such in his adult life he should be locked away. I don’t have sympathie nor compassion for people whose purpouse is to exploit, steal from and kill people. Come with whatever kinda bullshit you want to justify his action. The kid prepared a murder he at least should’n be allowed to be near other kids for the rest of his life
The child's parents should be held accountable. When I was a kid my mom checked our bags to make sure we had everything, and we were not taking toys to school.
The parents yes but why the school? It's not the school's fault that the kid had possession of loaded firearm. Just curious because a lot of people are saying the school should be prosecuted.
@@adamestrada7610 I wouldn't say that they should be prosecuted, but if they had information that the kid had brought a gun to school before and decided to ignore it, then they need to take some sort of accountability (be it doing audits in the school, allowing for teachers to express concerns in a easier way, or just taking threats seriously), if it was truly the case that they had known that the kid brought a gun to school before and ignored it was negligent on their part
My nephews were at this school when it happened, I live down the street from Richneck elementary. That day was incredibly chaotic. The kid in question doesnt live far from me, one time he locked himself in his mom's car and refused to come out then started revving the engine and crazy shit like that. Cops were called as a result. It's sad how the school did nothing up until the shooting, when that kid was bragging to his peers about how he was going to shoot the teacher that day. The threats were known well beforehand.
Damn, he a little bad ass kid. Did his parents at least TRY to help their son? If my son was acting out like that all the time, I’d try to get help. Maybe his environment is toxic, damn he’s only 6. What a sad case.
So basically his parents are neglectful and let him do whatever he wants to their property and behave however he wants. What they need to do is get that kid diagnosed and on meds.
Yep, he needs to face SOMETHING in order to put this action to a consequence, otherwise there'll be no end to his behaviour and he'll probably only get worse due to being let off the hook entirely. Not sure being charged as an adult is the sensible thing, but I can sure see why people were thinking it.
So, ground him for a week. That's about as harsh a punishment as a kid that age is able to comprehend. The parents should be the ones receiving punishment, though I fail to see how you could make an example out of them. Not without placing the kid in a situation that is almost certain to make his behaviour escalate further. Losing a parent or being placed in foster care won't exactly do him much good. The kid definitely needs therapy though.
How much do you still remember from when you were six years old? He is six: he doesn't comprehend what has happened let alone the consequences of what he did. His parents probably let their loaded guns lying around in their house where he grabbed and took it with him. Even in a world where nothing happened, that parents could be that negligant with their guns, is terrifying.
@@chocolatMouse I’m 21 and remember a lot from whin i was 6 or even younger I remember things since i was 3-4 years old and even if I didn’t this kid did something non of us were doing at 6 even if he has a short memory he’ll definitely remember this as it is a MASSIVE deal
@aliraid1295 you're so special, dude. Cant remember that I asked for your age, but a question: why don't you remember how to use basic punctuation if you can remember that far back?
@@Just_another_turtle no it ain't its stupid american culture. Black Africans don't behave like stupid white people and black people in america. White men in usa were terrorists kicked out of europe and britain. Not trustworthy
Exactly. You never know... he can be a sociopathe in the making. Parents should be held accountable sure and, the school too. Kids do understand more than we give them credit for.
@@ousontmeslunettes9891 they understand more than a lot of people give them credit for but the vast majority of kids arent even able to begin to understand what a gun can do and even if they do they still don’t understand the consequences
@@Nok112 ngl he still deserves some sort of punishment to understand what he did was wrong, so that this does not continue. Letting this child get away with no consequences will not teach him anything good. I say at the least he should get his ass whooped.
I have friends with a kid who's just like this kid. The school can't keep him out because they are required to provide education and his parents have the money to take him from Dr to Dr. They didn't want an oppositional defiant diagnosis... So they saw 8 Drs until they got him a diagnosis of autism - pathological demand avoidance. Basically he resents being asked or demanded to do anything and responds with the pathological behavior. Lying, and violence mostly. They are furious all the time that the school doesn't accommodate their child's behavior with the right accommodations and one on one behavioral stuff They even claim he suffered severe trauma at the hands of the school. But his behavior is that they ask him to do something and he melts down and violently lashes out to the point where he needs to be restrained by more than one adult. But When I listen to their complaints it infuriates me on behalf of other parents and children. What they don't seem to understand is that it is equally traumatic for the other children in that classroom to see their child freaking out and violently throwing his weight around and attacking people. It's great to accommodate child disability at much as you can. But your child's right to an education ends at where he ruins every other child's ability to feel safe and happy at school. And they have spent the last 8 years trying to fix this problem and he has not in fact gotten better at school. My husband and i are basically just waiting for him to injure another child or adult to the point where a lawsuit is levied against them. It's horrible to watch. I think a lot of people don't realize how hard it is to get these disruptive, violent children out of the public school system because of the right to an education laws
OK guys there’s actually a ton of stuff that you guys left out of this story. It’s actually even crazier than it seems. Somethings definitely wrong with this kid, but I wonder what it is about him that made the school not want to address the seriousness of the situation. Apparently his parents were supposed to be with him all the time because he disrupts the class so much, and they weren’t there that day. This kid has also said in the past that he wanted to light this teacher on fire and watch her die.According to the news, I heard.(I mean what’s going on at home that makes a six year old even think something like that?) A kid had told a teacher that this kid was carrying a gun, and nobody did anything about it. I think they checked his backpack but he had already moved the gun to his pocket. A teacher said they thought they saw him put a gun in his pocket but the administration said his pockets are too small to carry a gun? Pretty weird. Apparently there were several red flags but the administration would not let anybody really search this kid because it was near the end of the school day and they didn’t wanna deal with it. The parents and the school definitely need to be held accountable and if I were that teacher, I would be suing the hell out of that school.
To be blunt, the child is defective. He's already showing severe oppositional defiant disorder (ODD), which is often linked to antisocial personality disorder. While he's too young to be diagnosed as being antisocial, he's well on his ways towards it. If he's not removed from his parents' care and institutionalized, I am pretty sure he'll commit similar, if not worse, crimes in the future.
Don’t forget he also threatened the kid he showed the gun to. If he’s not going to jail now, he will end up there someday. Kid is super unwell and violent towards others.
You are honestly dangerously stupid. The kind of stupid that is destructive to our society when it proliferates. This is a 6 year old, it doesn't even understand its abcs and you've made it out to be evil. If he turns out to be a menace to others, it will be because incredibly stupid people like yourself demonised the kid for something it did when it was 6. At that age, how you treat them defines the kind of person they will become, so isolating the kid and treating it like it's evil will make them turn into what you fear them to be. Man, I don't understand how some of you were raised to assume so much about situations you don't understand. You treat a 6 year old like it's an adult that can fully grasp its mistakes
@@cameronlewis7029 Execution is the answer, people who take someone elses life, liberty and freedom don't deserve to keep any of theirs We already execute babies for being conceived, a 6 year old who will clearly take dozens more lives before his ends is electric chair material and nothing else
@@cameronlewis7029 prison is rehabilitation. It's a punishment to put into your head not to act like that. It's not perfect but nothing else works nearly as much. I'm not talking about this specific case but I'm sick of the whole "we shouldn't send people to prison because they broke the law" argument. We put it to practice and it never works.
This is a story where everyone needs something. The parents, the school, even the kid he needs something. I don't care if he is six, there are a lot of other six-year-olds that would never even dream of doing such a thing. He needs help and some form of punishment.
Exactly. We underestimate the minds of kids. While I think being charged as a adult is excessive, he needs to attend counseling and if he has some behavioural issue have some type of ongoing therapy. His parents should face of time of charges for their recklessness and give that teacher some form of restitution. That child knew the harm he could have done else why would he take a gun to school? Why did the parents not keep their gun safe? What if he had used it on himself accidentally?
It's ridiculous how most people are passing almost all the blame to the parents. While it's true the parents share the bulk of the blame but that 6 year old has to be rotten to the core to even think of doing something like that. There is something inherently wrong with that kid and he needs counselling, you can't just manifest homicidal thoughts into a child by bad parenting, unless you're a victim of abuse or something.
@@deBrawnyo at six years old most of your personality is built by your parents. This child can't be "rotten" just from birth. How does he even know how to shoot a gun in the first place? I truly don't think 6 year Olds really understand the concept of murder. I think he just saw it as a solution for his current problem. Most adults who kill don't even think about the consequences they are going to face afterwards. Anger drives them to it. Parents are almost fully to blame for this situation, otherwise the kid wouldn't have had access to a gun in the first place.
Yeah let's treat the six year old child that's still in his formative years as an adult! It's not as if there's laws against that for a reason or anything, not like children don't have the mental capacity or emotional maturity to face legal consequences or anything is it? Fucking retards.
Bruh do you have kids? Been around many 6yos? They simply don’t comprehend what they do, this kid doesn’t grasp his actions, no kid at that age does, this is directly correlated with the kids parents, and they should be prosecuted for even having a gun obtainable by a 6yo.
I'm from Germany and we had a similar discussion recently. Two 11 year old girls, killed a 12 year old girl and also do not face charges. To be fair they are significantly older, but it's still an open discussion here, if they should have been prosecuted.
I grew up with guns in my home. They were locked up. We were taught from the word GO - that guns were NOT toys and from about the age of 12 we were taught how to properly use them, etc. These parents obviously did NOT safely store the gun - otherwise their child would not have been able to shoot his teacher. They definitely need to be held responsible and some sort of mandatory psych intervention needs to be done for this child. A LOT of things are not right here.
I run a resort and had a south African family of 5 stay with me. They had a 7 year old son a two 9 year olds (boy and girl). The 9 year old boy had already gone hunting with his dad and shot several animals. But these kids were amazing - respectful and polite even though they were properly playing all over the place (as they should). That boy would never try to steal a gun (and most probably couldn't anyway as his dad is sane enough to keep guns safely locked away)
@@Axiomatic75 Yeah, been competent in firearms from a young age doesn't make one a psycho. I started shooting at about the age of 10, the same time I started to drive. Learn the right lessons early and they become second nature. This is to do with the child having real anger and psychological problems.
Someone has probably pointed this out already but it wasn't 3 separate days that the administration was warned, it was 3 staff and one student that reported it THAT DAY. The first time they searched his backpack but refused to search his person (which is where he had it), the other 3 times they continued to refuse to search his person. There is also the equity in suspension policy or whatever it was called to look into, that's why he wasn't punished for any of the other stuff (except the 1 days suspension for breaking the phone) before. Personally I think the kid was just used to being able to act out without any repercussions, so when he finally got suspended for a day he was pissed.
True that. Used to give them flak, but teachers have my respect for doing what they do with little recognition. Glad we have teachers who put time and effort.
What’s crazy is that he made threats to shoot a teacher. The teacher reported it and no one did anything. Forced the teacher to keep him in the class. Then shot another teacher later in the day.
It’s not crazy when u realize that this happens every day. When I was a teacher I was physically assaulted twice n the kid just came back after an hour . Teaching is a shit job n that is why it’s dying
that being said...who would take that seriously...? kids say stupid shit all the time. there has to be credibility to the threat. if a child said to an adult, "im going to break your leg!" are you going to gasp and call the police? No. its a child. plus, this is a 1 in a billion case lol
@@jimmyg1260 school is not more dangerous than prison, even in america. idk if you were just joking or being serious, but you can't compare prison to schools.
@@CircumcisionIsChildAbuse well look into the case. I believe the threats got so serious that the teacher being threatened told the principal that he brought a gun to school and the principal shrugged it off and said his pockets were too small to fit a gun. The child should have been sent for a psych evaluation from the start and he definitely should have been search the day it happened
You don't have to be a behavioural psychologist to know that kids at that age are capable of dangerous things when left unsupervised. His parents also have to take accountability for this.
its not a lack of supervision, its a lack of raising your children. clearly something more than just (turning your attention momentarily) is going to cause a child to act like this. They managed to associate guns with targeted behavior. That means they had a source of information to understand that using guns gets rid of people that do bad things. so that emotional connection comes from somewhere, and I'd be curious to know where. cause the average 6 year old wouldn't see a gun in that way (its intentional way) they'd play with it, which is why accidents are far more common with children than intentional assault. this is far more interesting in that regard because he attacked someone who he was angry with. Those kinds of behavioral problems suggest a very very chaotic home life. one where having his PHONE taken away causes great amounts of psychological distress, so chances are, he is on his phone A LOT, as a form of emotional regulation. This behavior screams ADHD, and a mixture of a violent home OR exposure to gun violence perhaps on the internet. Kids aren't stupid. There is also a possibility someone was whispering in his ear. Maybe someone online who thought they were being funny or didn't realize they were talking to a child. You know how many people online are violent and pro-gun that would freely type a comment like: "Guns keep the world safe from horrible people, if someone wants to mess with me or my family, I'm going to shoot them!" and what does that do to an emotionally unstable child? Fuels their behavior. I have a sinking suspicion that this is going to, once again...fuel the anti-gun laws. Sadly. You can guarantee everyone is going to over look the family dynamic and the unusual silence of the school to address behavioral problems in children. And for all we know that teacher might have been an actual bitch, we all know one. Don't let pretty fool you.
But also, it don’t mean he was dangerous. I’m not all the way done with the video, but he coulda just been playing , or what he thought was playing. Edit- never mind I just got through the rest of the video lol
I couldn't agree more about holding the parents accountable. But I am shocked that the child wasn't expelled after the first time they showed up with a firearm.
There were 3 or 4 instances where the teachers tried telling the assistant principal that the kid had a gun and she dismissed it because they didn't find the gun in his backpack. But it's worse: in 2021 the boy had CHOKED a different teacher at another school! The teacher said she was at her desk when he walked up behind her and locked his arms around her neck and jerked down and backward. Also, the same day that he had the gun at school, he threatened to beat up a kindergartner and showed another kid the gun on the playground and threatened to shoot that kid if he told anyone. That kid obviously has serious issues and should be locked in a mental facility away from the rest of society.
Unfortunately, this is a very serious issue. In Germany, two girls murdered a 12-year-old girl with more than 30 stitches. Since the perpetrators are only 12 and 13 years old, they are not of age to be punished under German law. According to investigations, they probably did it because the victim informed adults about bullying. It is an important topic, we have to accept at some point that children are not the same as each other and there must be possibilities, in extreme cases, to bring children to trial. There must be justice for the victims, no matter the age of the perpetrator. In this case, two get away with a planned and cold-blooded murder because they did it 1 year before the age of criminal responsibility.
@@hifiyume You don’t think enough negligence for a 6 year old to access a firearm, is a major sign that there’s negligence in other areas of the child’s upbringing?
@@hifiyume I’ve been around guns my whole life bc I lived in a ghetto where they were easy to ACCESS but I was RAISED to solve problems with my words and not shooting people… that’s what I’m talking about
You get sent to Juvenile jail, for kids under 15-17. This story was wild. Administrators were warned that the boy might have a weapon THREE times THAT DAY. Did nothing. And he was being vindictive. That boy knew what he was doing.
@@coltonsmith3270 that actually all depends upon the principality in which the crime is committed and the court in which the charges are filed. That's why there is occasionally the question of whether someone will be tried as an adult or not. I've heard of kids as young as 15 go to adult jail, especially for something like attempted murder. Just because you are young is no guarantee of juvie. For instance, if you steal more that $749.99, it becomes a federal crime and it's out of many prosecutors' hands where they can file the charges, only whether they charge the person or not.
They didn't check him because "school administration searches six year old black child for a gun" is not a good headline. They knew that there was a chance they were wrong, and if that were the case, heads would be rolling over it.
In Texas there are sections in the mental institutions that house kids as young as 4 for kids that killed their parents, loved ones, pets, you name it. They stay there until they are of legal age to process as adults and transferred to federal prison or adult mental institutions for the criminally insane. I was dealing with PTSD from the military for a six-month PTSD therapy program for combat service members. And I could not believe the stuff these kids did and how they talked to people. It just seemed off the way they went about their day was intense and childhood innocence in a child's body...creepy and unnerving.
So there's no chance of rehabilitation? If they're that young, there's a chance they can be "fixed," but it's crazy to think they wouldn't even try. Also, what you went through sounds awful. I hope you're doing better now.
I grew up from 7 to 18 in places like that staff also brutalize beat torture and grape those kids. Not in that same exact place but it’s happened in about 4 to 5 of the facilities I was in. Many riots many fights.
After hearing the teacher speak out and talk about how she’ll never forget the look in his eye when he pulled the trigger…..I wholeheartedly believe he intended to do harm & the fact that this wasn’t the first time he’s brought the gun to school shows he had this planned might’ve not necessarily been her but he planned to shoot people. Sure he shouldn’t go to jail but they ABSOLUTELY need to take him from his parents, get him evaluated & figure out a treatment plan; if any.
While we are at it, they should do all kinds of background checks on the parents and everyone else who "raised" this kid, relatives and such. This wasn't the first time the 6 year old was a threat, and tbh if a 5/6 yo behaves like that, threatens people, knows where the gun is and how to use it means he has seen an adult do it
There's been a number of cases of child killers (often severely abused kids diagnosed with with sociopathy/psychopathy) who've been reformed because they were treated before puberty. Apparently after puberty, it's set in stone. The only kid off the top of my head (I'm a true crime nut) that didn't respond to treatment was one of the killers of James Bulger.
Aba got it wrong, 3 teachers warned Administration that same day, so to our knowledge this is the only time he brought the gun to school. I do agree he 100% intended to harm though, it's been stated that he also showed the gun to one of his classmates at recess and told him he'd shoot him if he told anyone.
A 6 year old usually doesn't fully understand the concept of death yet, that usually happens around age 7-8. Would be interesting to know if the boy understood the consequences of pulling the trigger. In any case, the mere idea of charging a 6 year old is ridiculous.
Someone needs to be held accountable because idc how old the kid is THIS IS BEYOND UNACCEPTABLE! These teachers don’t get paid enough to deal with this bs smh
My six year old memorised my phone lock code without me realising he was even watching, then I was in the shower proceeded to run up a $400 credit card bill buying toys on eBay. I wasn't even mad at him it was so impressive. It's not a stretch to imagine another sharp 6yo memorising his dads gun lockers code. I for one never unlock my phone if my little one is around me since then, some kids are so sharp you can't afford to take them for granted.
So he got your credit card too? And he also knew he had to enter the 3 digit number on the back. And he entered the address and all that. Come off it mate
@@coldchillin8382 his phone bro. Many phones have preapproved payment methods that are locked behind (checks notes) your phone password. Totally possible.
Some parents are actively raising monsters and sending them off to school to terrorize teachers and bully their classmates. The parents really gotta hold the L in this one!
When I was six years old I had a friend with issues. Well, one day at recess she told me, unprovoked on the monkey bars, that she would steal her parents shotgun, come to the school, and blow my head clean off if I ever betrayed her. She was dead serious. I told my parents, they called the school. I never saw or heard from that girl again. Whether it's mental health or due to abuse in the home, I don't know, but some kids are seriously f**cked up and should not be around other kids, let alone have access to firearms.
As an educator I'm not the least bit shocked this happened. They tell us to report and take all threats from students seriously. Unfortunately, a lot of administrators do not.
how can you hold parents responsible for environments THEY themselves grew up in? You think parents are going to magically fix themselves? They end up raising their children the same way they were raised. precisely why having access to social services is extremely important or else those cycles keep repeating.
@@CircumcisionIsChildAbuse they MUST be held accountable otherwise there will be no justice. The fact they may have been raised in less than favourable conditions doesn't absolve them from responsibility. They are not victims for letting their kids shoot someone
@@CircumcisionIsChildAbuse Because you expect better from adults. Because you expect that there comes certain responsibilities with being a parent. Because, by your logic, you can not blame anyone for anything because of their fucked-up childhood. Hyperbolically, if a man rapes someone, but he comes from a family of rapists, that does not lessen his crime and excuse his actions.
I disagree. It's a delicate balance of nature vs nurture. I mean Ed Kemper shot his grandmother not because of any learned behavior he just thought "I wonder what it would be like to shoot grandma." his words not mine.
@@CircumcisionIsChildAbuse Cause the parents are not children, they are 100% accountable for their actions and they decided to be shit human beings and allow this to happen, if incentivizing better behavior doesn't work, then consequences need to be imposed
Karma doesn’t care about your age so the heavens will discipline him . He has a lot to learn in life . My heart goes out to his teacher like SERIOUSLY that had to be terrifying. Also she told the school admins that this child was threatening her safety they didn’t check him properly. It’s very sad situation.
I also read the full story on Washington Post, read the teacher's attorney letter, and watched the interview with the teacher because this story is crazy! The same 6-year-old also choked his kindergarten teacher to the point where she couldn't breathe a year before. On the same day of the shooting, the kid also threatened to shoot other students and punch a girl in the face. He will need A LOT of rehabilitation as a different commenter mentioned.
I honestly dont understand how an adult can let a kid almost strangle her. He is six now, so a "few years before" he was what? 4? 3? This is ridiculous. Do these adults have any agency? WTF? Same with the gun - the teacher knew he had a gun and "reported" it? WHAT? Why didn't the teacher take that gun from him, just take his backpack and take the gun. He is six for crying out loud. SIX. If you don't care about your own life maybe consider the other kids in the classroom... Are there any adults in that schools at all?
@@joannasowinska6789 so she should have had a gun wrestle match with the 6 year old and risked the lives of other students by taking the backpack and the gun? Bye
@@joannasowinska6789 Sorry, it was only a year ago (I'll correct that). He was a first grader at the time of the shooting so assuming a year before. The article was also speculating how a kindegartner taking down an adult is possible. I don't think anyone clearly knew where exactly the gun was until he made the shot. A different teacher searched his backpack earlier in the day and the gun wasn't in it. The affected teacher saw him put "something" in his pocket, but she wasn't sure what it was. Also, if this kid has it out for you, you don't want to be approaching him with a gun in his pocket. Teachers aren't trained to handle guns or kids with guns (so crazy!) so I understand her apprehension. However, administration needs to be able to handle situations like this and they can bring in police which is why they were being reported to HOURS before, but failed. This situation could have been way worse if the other teacher who came in didn't hold the kid down until police arrived. He could have kept going off. What's even crazier is that the parents of a knowingly troubled kid kept a loaded gun with the safety off stored unsecurely in their home. They claim that it was secured, but I doubt it. Even if it was, a six year old doesn't know enough about guns to operate it so it was clearly stored unsafely.
and the school for knowing a child has behavioral problems and offering no professional help? but hey, let's just throw some more tests and grades at them. that'll help. just put all the responsibility on the broken family...the CAUSE of their behavioral problems. Just because the tax payer doesn't want to provide the right psychological care to their own children.
Why shouldn't he? The kid clearly knew what he was doing even if he didn't know the consequences of his actions after the fact. He took that action to end someone's life, intentionally. he 100% should face legal repercussions and I would not care if he was locked away in a cell and the key thrown away forever.
@@Delimon007 Because that child had like 4 years of conscious existence, what makes you think he actually understood the consequences of his actions? Just because he did it?
Anyone heard about the recent case in Germany? A 12-year-old girl got her life erased by her two girl friends which were 12- and 13-year-old. They apparently lead her into a forest and knived her many times and some time after that, one of these girls made a TicToc dance video. According to the law they can't and will not be charged. They even protect them from "Cyber-bullying" and keep them anonymous. These two families also apparently left that town.
Maybe a psychiatrist or being institutionalized might help the kid as it’s not the first time he has shown aggressive behaviour. And the parents and school should be sued for negligence
The biggest question here is: Can a 6 year old be morally responsible for committing a crime? And is prison the proper rehabilitation for an adolescent?
This is wild. I have a six year old in kindergarten and her friend next door is seven. A boy just told her yesterday he was gonna shoot her with a gun, so of course her mom contacted the school immediately. I hope they really investigate this because that's horrifying to think about
That's a perfect example of how a 6 year old understands the difference between life and death. This kid here deserves to go to juvie and then adult prison.
The thing is tho, its not abnormal for 6 yr olds to joke abt guns. My little bro & his friends were always yelling BANG BANG and pointing finger guns and playing cops & robbers. But there’s a diff between playing pretend and having a real gun like the kid in this vid. So it’s good to check in on her friend& make sure for safety, but I wouldn’t fully blown panic right away b/c this kind of real-life scenario is incredibly rare
LET ME YELL YOU! My first year teaching, I taught Kindergarten in deep East Oakland, CA. That wqs one of the most traumatic experiences of my life. So much violence, and some of them 5 and 6 year olds were huge. I got slapped by two different children working there. Threw out my back twice. I can 100% believe this story.
hahahaha yah, Oakland XD good old CALIFORNIA, the land of the endless money but no one to help in these areas of the world where the money is actually needed XD Right across the bridge you have money pouring out of every crack in the cement, billionaires, millionaires, but you drive over that bridge and you get all this. People just don't care. they intentionally segregate these communities XD for a state that pretends to have all these liberal views about reparations and freedom and justice and equality, they sure like to ignore their own people huh? look at the housing market of oakland compared to san Francisco. just one bridge away.
Your story is by no means funny, but the "threw out my back twice" comment made me chuckle. There's some rough kids out there, product of their environment.
I just came to say how absolutely fine you are. And thanks for putting up with the shit from those kids. We need more teachers who can handle that life.
So a mental hospital isn't an option? That's where adults that have a child's brain end up going after a violent attack, because they aren't competent. I agree that the parents should be charged for not securing their guns, but not showing the kid who did this that he was wrong, is only going to continue to lead to more violent things, especially considering he already had a pattern of being aggressive with adults and other children. He doesn't need to be around other children at ALL. He LEARNED this violence from somewhere, and somebody needs to figure out why and how and where, and take care of it, before it keeps escalating. Which it will, if there are zero consequences and he learns at 6 years old that shooting people doesn't get him in trouble.
Happened down the street from my family and I. Parents need to be held accountable but I'm scared for the future of the kid. The boy isn't being taught right. Gun couldn't have been "secured" if a kid can easily gain access to it.
@Christopher Curtis Isn't being taught right? The kid was scaring multiple teachers at the school breaking a phone and then shows up with a gun shooting a teacher twice. That is a psycho kid. Normal kids don't do that regardless of being taught right.
A reminder, psychopathy is not a mental illness and there is no 'cure'. Parents should be accountable now, but that kid likely has a life of institutions ahead of him.
Also a reminder, a six year-old is twelve years too young to even sorta kinda maybe be considered a psychopath. Grossly inappropriate label to put on a child whose sense of empathy hasn't solidified yet.
@@RHBR01 It is also grossly inappropriate that the boy "had a gun on him at school and was threatening people" implying that he knew that both having a gun and the use of gun had meaningful consequences/outcomes.Clearly he is below the age of criminal responsibility, but some behavior is a keystone of a later adolescence diagnosis.
When this happened around my area and everyone found out about it we already knew the parents were partially at fault…but I didn’t even know they made that kind of statement and it’s crazy because the parents in the area pretty much believe their kids don’t do no wrong when in reality they are doing the most wild stuff without their parents knowing and it’s sad
Looks like you have to punish the parents for this along with the child make them all understand the penalties for this. Either way that monster needs to be locked up for life or put down lethality
Without extreme intense intervention a lot of these kids, End up being lost causes no hopes for them gaining humanity. I'm fairly sure that many of them put on psychiatric drugs at very young age, Because they're normal energetic kids, play a part in this. There are some pretty thoroughly f***** u* kids that come from some very f***** u* families.
I know administrators can be incompetent, but I cannot wrap my head around being notified that there is a gun at school and turning a blind eye. That is next level incompetence. These people should never be around children and I really hope she's able to sue the district for their inability to take warnings from staff seriously. It's always the teachers that suffer. It's high time they get the respect they deserve and the parent(s) should be held accountable!
you don't know because you have never been a teacher or admin or school employee. schools are black boxes where society dumps its shit. with that mindset, the focus is on hiding everything and resolving everything in the dark. you would be shocked by the stories i could tell you.
The parents need to be held accountable for this, how did he even carry it all the way to school without them noticing? And even after some teachers suspected and reported it, the school didn't even take action. Imagine if the victim was another child and it ended up being fatal, because this could have been way worse. This is just crazy, I can't even imagine a 6 year old firing a gun.
"I can't even imagine a 6-year-old firing a gun." When I go to the more conservative parts of youtube using firearms at that age seems as common as playing with legos.
Then you haven’t been paying attention to IS history or how are parents were brought up they were kids maybe a little older than this kid shot 22s shooting in some families is considered normal as long as the parents tell the kids that these things aren’t toys and watch and educate the kid.
We had a similar case about a week ago here in germany. A 12 year old girl got stabbed 17 times by her schoolbullys. The bully’s are 12 and 13 years old. They will also face no jail time.
The parents should be charged and should have their right to own a gun removed. The school should face consequences since if I remember multiple people reported that he had a gun.
These behavioral issues are more common than you think. Not to this extreme, of course. It's becoming more frequent. My wife deals with these problems every single day. Unfortunately, it seems to be from broken homes. Also before everyone goes on a meltdown or someone says something stupid, it's across all races and genders. The adults have issues they pass down to the kids. Teachers end up fighting these kids, and then it's handled internally. The parents of the child know, but other than admins, it's not broadcasted. I fear this is only going to get worse
It certainly does happen across all races, but to pretend that it isn't a much more serious problem with one group than every other doesn't help anyone. If we can't even admit that there's a problem, we can never hope to fix it. If anything, it causes more problems for black people who have to live around the psychopaths that we're allowing to be created. Not to mention the resentment that this is breeding in everyone else towards black people.
@@kangarooninja2594 bro what are you on about you realise these same issue happen in countries where there aren’t any black people who do you think Russian and polish and Czech jails are filled with white people. And it goes even beyond race to the point that the main common factor is poverty. Black white or whatever as long you are in poor conditions crime will occur. Russian jails are filled with white people and the fact you want to make this about race shows how ignorant you are. The most dangerous countries in Europe are white majority countries(only reason I bring up European countries is cause that’s wheee I live)z It isn’t about race but about poverty.
@@ChocoCarmelApple The big problem is now, what to do with a kid like this? Like I wouldn't want someone like this around my kids or any other kids. Like how can anyone leave someone like this alone in a school and not worry?
Same thing in Germany. Just recently two girls (12, 13 years old) murdered their friend (also 12 years old) by stabbing her roundabout 30 times. Story goes they have been bullying her for months and when she finally spoke up they killed her in the nearest forest. Minimum age for criminal charges is 14. No consequences whatsoever. They are now taken care of by social workers, that's it.
Us Europeans have lost sight of what is justice in the name of "progress" and "civility". I'm no advocate of an eye for an eye, mob justice and the sorts but we really are pampering criminals of the worst kind. There is no justice anymore, just "slaps on the wrists" and if you are a minor, not even that, even if you murdered someone in cold blood
Something similar happened in Wisconsin in my town with similar aged girls. The girls ended up with 25 and 40 year sentences to a secure mental health facility.
Wtf that is messed up. In my opinuon that is neglectful to not force them into a mental health programme, they clearly have issues & a social worker alone is no where near enough.
I taught third grade in the county school system for 4.5 years, having resigned this past December. Abby's experience certainly came as a shock but not quite unthinkable, especially the details regarding how she and others followed procedures of alerting administration and how her life was still put at risk. It's a glaring reflection of the current state of politics in education at the school level. My experience is hardly comparable, but I believe it relates to the idea of safety in schools. Sparing any sensitive details, one of the things (among many) that led to my decision to leave was being told by admin to essentially barricade myself in my classroom and hide from an angry parent that meant me harm and had a history of noncompliance with our SRO (school resource officer). This parent was allowed in the building after being escorted out in handcuffs just a few months prior for seeking to harm their child's teacher the previous school year. "the teachers are afraid of admin, admin is afraid of parents, parents are afraid of their own kids, and the kids fear *no one*." despite so much red tape, legal technicalities, and tied hands, at what point do we decide that this is unacceptable? nothing is being done, and teachers and students alike are victimized.
This is just horrible. Thank you for sharing your story - maybe more parents like me (I have a kindergartner) need to be more involved and calling this kind of horrible behavior out for what it is!
@@kait112 Thank you so much for your kindness! ♥️ It’s parents like you that made leaving such a difficult choice-y’all are an amazing support to us and schools in general! ♥️ God bless you and your little one-kinder is such a big year full of lots of growth (and sometimes growing pains, lol), and I wish you both the very best! ♥️ I think what you said about parents coming alongside us is exactly what is needed. ♥️ Thank you so much for reaching out!! ♥️
This is definitely a household problem. They need to investigate the home and put him in some form of counseling until he is 18 to prevent him from becoming a hardened criminal. Also, I understand that household weapons should be locked up, but the bigger issue is why he felt it was ok to even use a weapon against another human being at 6 years old.
@@BabalonNuit I spent my younger years in the 80's and 90's and these types of things were prevalent then also. When I was young my father showed me where he kept his gun (revolver). Told me this is to protect the home when he's gone. He also explained that it was not a toy and very dangerous . I never touched it.
@@ChuckFinelyForever Well good for you. But a whole generation is growing up being told "Violence is bad" while being babysat by a device that teaches them the opposite. That's a recipe for mental illness up the road. The kid probably took it out of his mother's nightstand/purse.
@@BabalonNuit Muh violent videogames. This is 100% parenting issue. I played "violent videogames" since I was 5 and I never have tried to merk anybody.
It's crazy to me that the kid who got graped by his teacher has to pay for child support and the teacher doesn't get jail time. So not only does he get trauma but he also gets a ridiculous amount of debt as a side dish, but this kid, though yeah I get they're 6,brought a gun to school multiple times and shot the teacher doesn't get any real punishment. That's insane to me.
It’s crazy that they know a child can’t stand trial because of their lack of understanding, but somehow that logic goes out the window when a child wants to change genders
Exactly what I was thinking! I was checking the comments to see if anyone mentioned this! This comment restored a little bit of my faith in humanity and it’s future. Lol
Children like this have always existed. The reason it seems like there are more kids like this now than ever before it’s due to something called “mainstreaming.” This is a public education policy implemented in the US during Bush’s No Child Left Behind where kids who would normally be institutionalized or sent to an alternative school are instead put into mainstream classrooms with other students, and given a “para-educator“ to sit with them and give them any extra support they might need. In this kid’s case, he was so out of control that his parents had to take on the role of para-educator bc there wasn’t any professional who could handle him as he often had to be physically restrained. This child clearly needs to be institutionalized because he’s obviously in a bad home if he was able to get access to that gun at all as a 6-year-old, and mainstreaming him had been a disaster for sometime before the shooting incident because he just could not mentally handle the mainstream classroom environment
@@Kaybye555 it’s not just that we need more of these institutions to exist, there are parents who are offered help and hospitalization for their mentally disturbed children and they *refuse*. Think of Ethan Crumbley‘s parents, who refused to take him to the psych ward right before he shot up his school, they were able to refuse the principal’s request to give Ethan treatment, and they were able to demand that he be sent back to his main stream classroom. Think about Nicholas Cruz, the Parkland shooter, whose mother was offered mental health services for him over 160 times during his childhood, she refused every single time and he got sent back to his main stream classroom every single time. It seems pretty likely that there was a similar situation with the six year old shooter since he had threatened to kill multiple teachers and classmates in the months leading up to the shooting, yet was somehow still allowed back into the classroom. Prior to NCLB, it was much easier for schools to expel a kid or do you send a kid to an alternative school by court order and override the parents. At a certain point, parents like those who are in denial need to be overridden, because their refusal to accept that their child needs to be institutionalized is actively putting other children and teachers in danger
IMHO liability is on the parents. How does a six year old get their hands on a handgun, twice??? If that child took the handgun to school more than once the parents definition of secure is wack.
@@TheManofthecross the fact you defend that bs amendment after hearing a story like this 😂 America is the only place this happens and it's not a mystery why.
@@Welari12 Ari Wells. You cannot possibly be that ignorant about history and how tyrants can ruin a country. We've seen what radical leaders do when they take the weapons from law abiding citizens. Look at Cuba, Soviet Union, N. Korea and even Weimar Germany . See how taking guns away from the masses benefit evil tyrants? How about get off Tiktok and read a history Book?
She is suing the school I think. She told them multiple times that the kid was saying violent things to her and the school did nothing. Schools do not care about teachers or students 😢
Any the dumbfuck parents just let the gun hang around and let the kid steal it like that. Lock the parents up for life. Their basically complicit in the murder. Im fucking tired of these assclowns leaving their guns open for their mentally unstable 14 year olds to straight up steal
Yeah the kid was saying death threats to the teacher the week prior. What still baffles me is that the kid told other kids he had a gun, they told teachers he had a gun, and they still did nothing.
If the six-year-old was completely out of control and had a severe enough behavioral disorder he could have been kept in an inpatient facility for safety . It is rare but it happens.
From what it sounds like, the kid is cunning enough already to trick and manipulate adults, so I wouldn't be surprised if he'd be able to pretend that he was the most innocent little angel victim of parental neglect.
Damn.. we have to worry about 6 yr olds now. It's a tough situation but I think the parents need to be strongly held accountable and maybe the kid should removed from the household for awhile and under go some long form therapy (not just a hey how you doing type thing). If this isn't dealt with now this kid will definitely become a life long criminal or murderer. And just imagine, a classroom of 6 yr olds now have trauma from experiencing a school shooting right in front of their eyes. They will live with that for life.
A&P brought up a good point when mentioning the climate of schools and guns. Not just in America but in other parts of the world. There have been far too many tragic incidents for any school staff member to not take immediate action the second they hear such a claim. What if the kid had it out for his classmates?
The worst thing is that this is already a disaster waiting to happen. Like he shot a person already, this could get worse but no idea what you should do.
I live in Virginia and they’ve implemented policies in certain schools for see through backpacks now. During my freshman year of high school, my school had a plethora of 💣 threats to the point where we were constantly being pulled out of class. They put metal detectors outside of the cafeteria (they would also do bag searches) and the building doors, there were constant fights happening, kids were doing drugs and sneaking in alcohol on campus. It was really easy to skip classes (with little to no parent follow up mind you) and even leave the building even though we had a closed campus which meant we weren’t allowed to peruse the courtyard outside of class. I remember they brung in the search dogs into my acting class once and that wasn’t the only instance in which they did bring dogs. They would do random locker searches and we also had to have meetings about these issues in the auditorium. The parents are absolutely responsible for these happenings because kids can’t get away with doing things their parents don’t allow especially considering their lack of resources, transportation, and employment. Keep your kids level headed and busy, not just busy to be occupied but rather to be motivated. Kids with nothing to lose and no purpose are just like adults with those same circumstances only you can actually blame an adult for their actions and for the child you can really only blame the parents and their piss poor parenting.
He should be tried as an adult.
As a 6 year old? U WOT?
Cmon brah
Bro your not alright in the head
Ricky the goofball
pin of shame speedrun
The child's parents should be held accountable. There is no way that a child gets access to a firearm if they're securing it.
Then why havnt they been arrested yet? Could it be that they are part of a protected minority class 🤔
im far more curious why the child was compelled to act that way. that means at the age of 6 he acted out a violent crime that almost killed someone. that's a lot of emotions that aren't being properly expressed.
@@CircumcisionIsChildAbuse they are children. You expect children to display emotional inhibition and control? Most adults even can't properly behave. They're SIX.
parent. single black mother, he has no father.
@@sethblvck it definitely starts at home because thats where they got the firearm in the first place. Kids that age stupid, that's why they shouldnt be around fuckin guns.
That teacher deserves lifetime settlement and a statue in that school.
She also managed to escort the 20 remaining kids to safety.
*Maximum Respect*
She's dead I think
@@kingcort8073 she’s not
@@kingcort8073 just checked. She survived.
Mission passed: Respect+
She should’ve Spartan kicked that kid in the face first.
I think court ordered psychiatric help would be more beneficial for the 6 year old than detention, because it’s VERY concerning that someone his age would be capable of that. I’m not a psychologist or psychiatrist, but that sounds like sociopathy or psychopathy and it needs to be addressed so they can function in adulthood
Something is also clearly wrong with his home life
I think I read that is what they are doing.
No you can’t diagnose a 6 year old
It’s a PARENTING ISSUE
A psycopath is born one. So yeah if that kid ends up being diagnosed as such in his adult life he should be locked away. I don’t have sympathie nor compassion for people whose purpouse is to exploit, steal from and kill people. Come with whatever kinda bullshit you want to justify his action. The kid prepared a murder he at least should’n be allowed to be near other kids for the rest of his life
@@YanoshDanosh I'd say the fact that he murdered someone's a bit more important than that.
The child's parents should be held accountable. When I was a kid my mom checked our bags to make sure we had everything, and we were not taking toys to school.
Kid: extensive therapy
Parents: jail
School: sued
Sounds about right to me.
add
System: changed
Yeah
@@willchurch8376 then
Hopes for systemic change: crushed 😂
This story is crazy.
The school and those parents need to be held accountable.
Typical inner city culture
10 billion percent correct
But also this kid is one twisted little vermin, hope he gets help n can be a proper human some day
The parents yes but why the school? It's not the school's fault that the kid had possession of loaded firearm. Just curious because a lot of people are saying the school should be prosecuted.
@@adamestrada7610 I wouldn't say that they should be prosecuted, but if they had information that the kid had brought a gun to school before and decided to ignore it, then they need to take some sort of accountability (be it doing audits in the school, allowing for teachers to express concerns in a easier way, or just taking threats seriously), if it was truly the case that they had known that the kid brought a gun to school before and ignored it was negligent on their part
6 days ago? do some people have acces to videos earlier?
My nephews were at this school when it happened, I live down the street from Richneck elementary. That day was incredibly chaotic. The kid in question doesnt live far from me, one time he locked himself in his mom's car and refused to come out then started revving the engine and crazy shit like that. Cops were called as a result. It's sad how the school did nothing up until the shooting, when that kid was bragging to his peers about how he was going to shoot the teacher that day. The threats were known well beforehand.
Damn, he a little bad ass kid. Did his parents at least TRY to help their son? If my son was acting out like that all the time, I’d try to get help. Maybe his environment is toxic, damn he’s only 6. What a sad case.
So basically his parents are neglectful and let him do whatever he wants to their property and behave however he wants. What they need to do is get that kid diagnosed and on meds.
Is the kid white?
@@Trevision88 lmao it's sad, but ever since this story came out, I was hoping this kid isn't black. 😂
He wasn't bragging. He was upset but yes his parents need to be held accountable.
This is dangerous. A 6 year old committing a crime like this then he’ll grow up to think he can do whatever he want and get away with it
Yep, he needs to face SOMETHING in order to put this action to a consequence, otherwise there'll be no end to his behaviour and he'll probably only get worse due to being let off the hook entirely.
Not sure being charged as an adult is the sensible thing, but I can sure see why people were thinking it.
So, ground him for a week. That's about as harsh a punishment as a kid that age is able to comprehend. The parents should be the ones receiving punishment, though I fail to see how you could make an example out of them. Not without placing the kid in a situation that is almost certain to make his behaviour escalate further. Losing a parent or being placed in foster care won't exactly do him much good.
The kid definitely needs therapy though.
How much do you still remember from when you were six years old?
He is six: he doesn't comprehend what has happened let alone the consequences of what he did.
His parents probably let their loaded guns lying around in their house where he grabbed and took it with him. Even in a world where nothing happened, that parents could be that negligant with their guns, is terrifying.
@@chocolatMouse I’m 21 and remember a lot from whin i was 6 or even younger I remember things since i was 3-4 years old and even if I didn’t this kid did something non of us were doing at 6 even if he has a short memory he’ll definitely remember this as it is a MASSIVE deal
@aliraid1295 you're so special, dude. Cant remember that I asked for your age, but a question: why don't you remember how to use basic punctuation if you can remember that far back?
Wow. Parents need to be held accountable for this. I can’t believe this happened.
Most likely, they will be charged with gross negligence.
It's just their culture man. That's racist
@@Nosh5
They have done nothing so far I doubt it. Parent should’ve been charged with negligence from day one………
@@Just_another_turtle I see you in like every youtube comment section 😂😂
@@Just_another_turtle no it ain't its stupid american culture. Black Africans don't behave like stupid white people and black people in america. White men in usa were terrorists kicked out of europe and britain. Not trustworthy
That kid may not need to be charged but he needs to be watched.
Exactly. You never know... he can be a sociopathe in the making. Parents should be held accountable sure and, the school too.
Kids do understand more than we give them credit for.
@@ousontmeslunettes9891 they understand more than a lot of people give them credit for but the vast majority of kids arent even able to begin to understand what a gun can do and even if they do they still don’t understand the consequences
@@ousontmeslunettes9891 Thank that exactly what I thought
@@Eric-bl8lp when I was a kid the only thing I associated with guns was death…
He absolutely should have to go to mandatory intense counseling. A 6 yr old can't even FULLY understand what he did.
This is outrageous! The school AND the parents need to be held accountable
@@Nok112 can you read?
@@Nok112 I need to get off the internet
@@Nok112 Sweety, if they edited it, the comment would say so.
See?
@@Nok112 ngl he still deserves some sort of punishment to understand what he did was wrong, so that this does not continue. Letting this child get away with no consequences will not teach him anything good. I say at the least he should get his ass whooped.
I have friends with a kid who's just like this kid. The school can't keep him out because they are required to provide education and his parents have the money to take him from Dr to Dr.
They didn't want an oppositional defiant diagnosis... So they saw 8 Drs until they got him a diagnosis of autism - pathological demand avoidance. Basically he resents being asked or demanded to do anything and responds with the pathological behavior. Lying, and violence mostly. They are furious all the time that the school doesn't accommodate their child's behavior with the right accommodations and one on one behavioral stuff They even claim he suffered severe trauma at the hands of the school. But his behavior is that they ask him to do something and he melts down and violently lashes out to the point where he needs to be restrained by more than one adult.
But When I listen to their complaints it infuriates me on behalf of other parents and children. What they don't seem to understand is that it is equally traumatic for the other children in that classroom to see their child freaking out and violently throwing his weight around and attacking people. It's great to accommodate child disability at much as you can. But your child's right to an education ends at where he ruins every other child's ability to feel safe and happy at school. And they have spent the last 8 years trying to fix this problem and he has not in fact gotten better at school. My husband and i are basically just waiting for him to injure another child or adult to the point where a lawsuit is levied against them. It's horrible to watch. I think a lot of people don't realize how hard it is to get these disruptive, violent children out of the public school system because of the right to an education laws
OK guys there’s actually a ton of stuff that you guys left out of this story. It’s actually even crazier than it seems. Somethings definitely wrong with this kid, but I wonder what it is about him that made the school not want to address the seriousness of the situation. Apparently his parents were supposed to be with him all the time because he disrupts the class so much, and they weren’t there that day. This kid has also said in the past that he wanted to light this teacher on fire and watch her die.According to the news, I heard.(I mean what’s going on at home that makes a six year old even think something like that?) A kid had told a teacher that this kid was carrying a gun, and nobody did anything about it. I think they checked his backpack but he had already moved the gun to his pocket. A teacher said they thought they saw him put a gun in his pocket but the administration said his pockets are too small to carry a gun? Pretty weird. Apparently there were several red flags but the administration would not let anybody really search this kid because it was near the end of the school day and they didn’t wanna deal with it. The parents and the school definitely need to be held accountable and if I were that teacher, I would be suing the hell out of that school.
Schoolboard has clearly never watched a midwestern where a lady fits a derringer in her sock, they've also clearly never heard what a subcompact is
He’s been a problem since starting school. The child and his parents are problematic.
To be blunt, the child is defective. He's already showing severe oppositional defiant disorder (ODD), which is often linked to antisocial personality disorder. While he's too young to be diagnosed as being antisocial, he's well on his ways towards it. If he's not removed from his parents' care and institutionalized, I am pretty sure he'll commit similar, if not worse, crimes in the future.
Don’t forget he also threatened the kid he showed the gun to. If he’s not going to jail now, he will end up there someday. Kid is super unwell and violent towards others.
Speaking from experience, this will be white washed; I say that as a full on albino; and yes from experience means I've been in similar shoes.
The fact that he has that much hate in his heart to actually pull the trigger on his teacher… this kid is a danger to other children his age!
Kids do things and you can always get why, yet like most people there is no rehabilitation for the kid, so let’s send him to prison, right?!
You are honestly dangerously stupid. The kind of stupid that is destructive to our society when it proliferates. This is a 6 year old, it doesn't even understand its abcs and you've made it out to be evil. If he turns out to be a menace to others, it will be because incredibly stupid people like yourself demonised the kid for something it did when it was 6. At that age, how you treat them defines the kind of person they will become, so isolating the kid and treating it like it's evil will make them turn into what you fear them to be.
Man, I don't understand how some of you were raised to assume so much about situations you don't understand. You treat a 6 year old like it's an adult that can fully grasp its mistakes
@@cameronlewis7029 Execution is the answer, people who take someone elses life, liberty and freedom don't deserve to keep any of theirs
We already execute babies for being conceived, a 6 year old who will clearly take dozens more lives before his ends is electric chair material and nothing else
Well he is a danger with a long history of fights with other kids and a lot of death treats. Merciless beating with improvised weapons.
@@cameronlewis7029 prison is rehabilitation. It's a punishment to put into your head not to act like that. It's not perfect but nothing else works nearly as much. I'm not talking about this specific case but I'm sick of the whole "we shouldn't send people to prison because they broke the law" argument. We put it to practice and it never works.
This is a story where everyone needs something. The parents, the school, even the kid he needs something. I don't care if he is six, there are a lot of other six-year-olds that would never even dream of doing such a thing. He needs help and some form of punishment.
Exactly. We underestimate the minds of kids. While I think being charged as a adult is excessive, he needs to attend counseling and if he has some behavioural issue have some type of ongoing therapy. His parents should face of time of charges for their recklessness and give that teacher some form of restitution. That child knew the harm he could have done else why would he take a gun to school? Why did the parents not keep their gun safe? What if he had used it on himself accidentally?
It's ridiculous how most people are passing almost all the blame to the parents. While it's true the parents share the bulk of the blame but that 6 year old has to be rotten to the core to even think of doing something like that. There is something inherently wrong with that kid and he needs counselling, you can't just manifest homicidal thoughts into a child by bad parenting, unless you're a victim of abuse or something.
@@deBrawnyo at six years old most of your personality is built by your parents. This child can't be "rotten" just from birth. How does he even know how to shoot a gun in the first place? I truly don't think 6 year Olds really understand the concept of murder. I think he just saw it as a solution for his current problem. Most adults who kill don't even think about the consequences they are going to face afterwards. Anger drives them to it.
Parents are almost fully to blame for this situation, otherwise the kid wouldn't have had access to a gun in the first place.
Yeah let's treat the six year old child that's still in his formative years as an adult! It's not as if there's laws against that for a reason or anything, not like children don't have the mental capacity or emotional maturity to face legal consequences or anything is it?
Fucking retards.
Bruh do you have kids? Been around many 6yos? They simply don’t comprehend what they do, this kid doesn’t grasp his actions, no kid at that age does, this is directly correlated with the kids parents, and they should be prosecuted for even having a gun obtainable by a 6yo.
I'm from Germany and we had a similar discussion recently. Two 11 year old girls, killed a 12 year old girl and also do not face charges. To be fair they are significantly older, but it's still an open discussion here, if they should have been prosecuted.
They should at 12 you understand murded is a serious crime plz. Y'all crazy as fuck for that.
You can’t try a 6 year old as an adult but no charges or consequences is crazy
@@goodbyehello8545 how about you send him to god, he took the life of the teacher out of hate. send the kid exactly where he deserves to be dafuq
that's my thought. like i get he is six, but even as a kid we know consequences occur. I really wonder what's gonna happen
@@TheManofthecross Your right if he was one of you guys he would have probably killed a lot of innocent kids then himself eventually 😂😂😂
@@TheManofthecross No, it’s just the law. Stay mad.
@@sammy2954 you pulled another one in Colorado
I grew up with guns in my home. They were locked up. We were taught from the word GO - that guns were NOT toys and from about the age of 12 we were taught how to properly use them, etc. These parents obviously did NOT safely store the gun - otherwise their child would not have been able to shoot his teacher. They definitely need to be held responsible and some sort of mandatory psych intervention needs to be done for this child. A LOT of things are not right here.
Or just put the child down for everyone’s own good cause a child like that can’t be rehabilitated
I run a resort and had a south African family of 5 stay with me. They had a 7 year old son a two 9 year olds (boy and girl). The 9 year old boy had already gone hunting with his dad and shot several animals. But these kids were amazing - respectful and polite even though they were properly playing all over the place (as they should). That boy would never try to steal a gun (and most probably couldn't anyway as his dad is sane enough to keep guns safely locked away)
The guns were not locked in my house, but the ammunition sure was.
@@Axiomatic75 Yeah, been competent in firearms from a young age doesn't make one a psycho. I started shooting at about the age of 10, the same time I started to drive. Learn the right lessons early and they become second nature. This is to do with the child having real anger and psychological problems.
people always claim this, but im guessing your family was more irresponsible with guns than you let on.
Someone has probably pointed this out already but it wasn't 3 separate days that the administration was warned, it was 3 staff and one student that reported it THAT DAY. The first time they searched his backpack but refused to search his person (which is where he had it), the other 3 times they continued to refuse to search his person. There is also the equity in suspension policy or whatever it was called to look into, that's why he wasn't punished for any of the other stuff (except the 1 days suspension for breaking the phone) before. Personally I think the kid was just used to being able to act out without any repercussions, so when he finally got suspended for a day he was pissed.
A child can't comprehend the charges against them but can pick their gender and understand their sexuality. Ok. Makes sense.
No one sayng that anymore
@@SubZero-hs9xc test
@@SubZero-hs9xc Shiiiit....
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Oh shut up
Props to the teacher for getting her other students out of the classroom and being a good teacher. It's not a profession that just anyone can do.
True that. Used to give them flak, but teachers have my respect for doing what they do with little recognition. Glad we have teachers who put time and effort.
@@udonnauchegbu2018and their life..
@@Tardzud True.
That teacher definitely earned a pay raise
Yep, so let's keep paying them so little they have to work a second job to make ends meet
What’s crazy is that he made threats to shoot a teacher. The teacher reported it and no one did anything. Forced the teacher to keep him in the class. Then shot another teacher later in the day.
It’s not crazy when u realize that this happens every day. When I was a teacher I was physically assaulted twice n the kid just came back after an hour . Teaching is a shit job n that is why it’s dying
@John Harlepas I'm going to say. Only in America is school more dangerous than prison.
that being said...who would take that seriously...? kids say stupid shit all the time. there has to be credibility to the threat. if a child said to an adult, "im going to break your leg!" are you going to gasp and call the police? No. its a child. plus, this is a 1 in a billion case lol
@@jimmyg1260 school is not more dangerous than prison, even in america. idk if you were just joking or being serious, but you can't compare prison to schools.
@@CircumcisionIsChildAbuse well look into the case. I believe the threats got so serious that the teacher being threatened told the principal that he brought a gun to school and the principal shrugged it off and said his pockets were too small to fit a gun. The child should have been sent for a psych evaluation from the start and he definitely should have been search the day it happened
My heart goes out to the other kids in the class they must be super traumatised 😢
Homeschooling is soon going to be a huge incentive for parents AND teachers.
You don't have to be a behavioural psychologist to know that kids at that age are capable of dangerous things when left unsupervised. His parents also have to take accountability for this.
its not a lack of supervision, its a lack of raising your children. clearly something more than just (turning your attention momentarily) is going to cause a child to act like this. They managed to associate guns with targeted behavior. That means they had a source of information to understand that using guns gets rid of people that do bad things. so that emotional connection comes from somewhere, and I'd be curious to know where. cause the average 6 year old wouldn't see a gun in that way (its intentional way) they'd play with it, which is why accidents are far more common with children than intentional assault. this is far more interesting in that regard because he attacked someone who he was angry with. Those kinds of behavioral problems suggest a very very chaotic home life. one where having his PHONE taken away causes great amounts of psychological distress, so chances are, he is on his phone A LOT, as a form of emotional regulation. This behavior screams ADHD, and a mixture of a violent home OR exposure to gun violence perhaps on the internet. Kids aren't stupid.
There is also a possibility someone was whispering in his ear. Maybe someone online who thought they were being funny or didn't realize they were talking to a child. You know how many people online are violent and pro-gun that would freely type a comment like: "Guns keep the world safe from horrible people, if someone wants to mess with me or my family, I'm going to shoot them!" and what does that do to an emotionally unstable child? Fuels their behavior.
I have a sinking suspicion that this is going to, once again...fuel the anti-gun laws. Sadly. You can guarantee everyone is going to over look the family dynamic and the unusual silence of the school to address behavioral problems in children. And for all we know that teacher might have been an actual bitch, we all know one. Don't let pretty fool you.
But also, it don’t mean he was dangerous. I’m not all the way done with the video, but he coulda just been playing , or what he thought was playing.
Edit- never mind I just got through the rest of the video lol
Or a developmental one either.
but they can decide if they want to cut off their penis or take hormones.....yeah right!
Does capable mean responsible?
I couldn't agree more about holding the parents accountable. But I am shocked that the child wasn't expelled after the first time they showed up with a firearm.
They misread it. The three instances that they talked about were on the same day where some kids and teachers talked to administration about it.
That’s racist!!
They showed up? Its well established the kid is a boy.
@@The88Cheat lmao
There were 3 or 4 instances where the teachers tried telling the assistant principal that the kid had a gun and she dismissed it because they didn't find the gun in his backpack.
But it's worse: in 2021 the boy had CHOKED a different teacher at another school! The teacher said she was at her desk when he walked up behind her and locked his arms around her neck and jerked down and backward.
Also, the same day that he had the gun at school, he threatened to beat up a kindergartner and showed another kid the gun on the playground and threatened to shoot that kid if he told anyone.
That kid obviously has serious issues and should be locked in a mental facility away from the rest of society.
Unfortunately, this is a very serious issue.
In Germany, two girls murdered a 12-year-old girl with more than 30 stitches.
Since the perpetrators are only 12 and 13 years old, they are not of age to be punished under German law.
According to investigations, they probably did it because the victim informed adults about bullying.
It is an important topic, we have to accept at some point that children are not the same as each other and there must be possibilities, in extreme cases, to bring children to trial.
There must be justice for the victims, no matter the age of the perpetrator.
In this case, two get away with a planned and cold-blooded murder because they did it 1 year before the age of criminal responsibility.
If I was the teacher and found out NO ONE is facing any sort of punishment, I would be so MAD.
The fact that a 6 year old can get access to his parents firearm is very telling about how he was raised
Not like he would be an upstanding citizen in the future. Should face prison time.
Raised and access have nothing to do with each other lol wtf you on about?
@@Just_another_turtle you certainly have the iq of a turtle thats for sure
@@hifiyume You don’t think enough negligence for a 6 year old to access a firearm, is a major sign that there’s negligence in other areas of the child’s upbringing?
@@hifiyume I’ve been around guns my whole life bc I lived in a ghetto where they were easy to ACCESS but I was RAISED to solve problems with my words and not shooting people… that’s what I’m talking about
You get sent to Juvenile jail, for kids under 15-17.
This story was wild. Administrators were warned that the boy might have a weapon THREE times THAT DAY. Did nothing. And he was being vindictive. That boy knew what he was doing.
for kids under 18. 15-17 year olds still get sent to juvie.
@@coltonsmith3270 that actually all depends upon the principality in which the crime is committed and the court in which the charges are filed. That's why there is occasionally the question of whether someone will be tried as an adult or not. I've heard of kids as young as 15 go to adult jail, especially for something like attempted murder. Just because you are young is no guarantee of juvie. For instance, if you steal more that $749.99, it becomes a federal crime and it's out of many prosecutors' hands where they can file the charges, only whether they charge the person or not.
They didn't check him because "school administration searches six year old black child for a gun" is not a good headline. They knew that there was a chance they were wrong, and if that were the case, heads would be rolling over it.
A 6 y/o doesn't "know" anything, at that age, your brain is physically incapable of understanding the implications.
deport to mother africa
This is nuts. I'm a first grade teacher. I can't even imagine this happening with any of my kids.
especially after someone reported that kid had a gun
“my kids”? rephrase dude.
@@GG-kn2se thats ba common way teachers refer to the teachers in class evein in the UK where i am this is common
Can we get parents of kids like this face justice _ONCE?!_ Like damn.
In Texas there are sections in the mental institutions that house kids as young as 4 for kids that killed their parents, loved ones, pets, you name it. They stay there until they are of legal age to process as adults and transferred to federal prison or adult mental institutions for the criminally insane. I was dealing with PTSD from the military for a six-month PTSD therapy program for combat service members. And I could not believe the stuff these kids did and how they talked to people. It just seemed off the way they went about their day was intense and childhood innocence in a child's body...creepy and unnerving.
So there's no chance of rehabilitation? If they're that young, there's a chance they can be "fixed," but it's crazy to think they wouldn't even try.
Also, what you went through sounds awful. I hope you're doing better now.
@@caitthecatit's Texas man
@@caitthecat you're too naive
@@phelan8385 yeah, we value the rest of society over sociopathic youth 🤷♂️
I grew up from 7 to 18 in places like that staff also brutalize beat torture and grape those kids. Not in that same exact place but it’s happened in about 4 to 5 of the facilities I was in. Many riots many fights.
After hearing the teacher speak out and talk about how she’ll never forget the look in his eye when he pulled the trigger…..I wholeheartedly believe he intended to do harm & the fact that this wasn’t the first time he’s brought the gun to school shows he had this planned might’ve not necessarily been her but he planned to shoot people.
Sure he shouldn’t go to jail but they ABSOLUTELY need to take him from his parents, get him evaluated & figure out a treatment plan; if any.
While we are at it, they should do all kinds of background checks on the parents and everyone else who "raised" this kid, relatives and such.
This wasn't the first time the 6 year old was a threat, and tbh if a 5/6 yo behaves like that, threatens people, knows where the gun is and how to use it means he has seen an adult do it
Put the thing in to jail along with the family there as well and never let them out
There's been a number of cases of child killers (often severely abused kids diagnosed with with sociopathy/psychopathy) who've been reformed because they were treated before puberty. Apparently after puberty, it's set in stone.
The only kid off the top of my head (I'm a true crime nut) that didn't respond to treatment was one of the killers of James Bulger.
Aba got it wrong, 3 teachers warned Administration that same day, so to our knowledge this is the only time he brought the gun to school. I do agree he 100% intended to harm though, it's been stated that he also showed the gun to one of his classmates at recess and told him he'd shoot him if he told anyone.
A 6 year old usually doesn't fully understand the concept of death yet, that usually happens around age 7-8. Would be interesting to know if the boy understood the consequences of pulling the trigger. In any case, the mere idea of charging a 6 year old is ridiculous.
Someone needs to be held accountable because idc how old the kid is THIS IS BEYOND UNACCEPTABLE! These teachers don’t get paid enough to deal with this bs smh
My six year old memorised my phone lock code without me realising he was even watching, then I was in the shower proceeded to run up a $400 credit card bill buying toys on eBay. I wasn't even mad at him it was so impressive. It's not a stretch to imagine another sharp 6yo memorising his dads gun lockers code. I for one never unlock my phone if my little one is around me since then, some kids are so sharp you can't afford to take them for granted.
Yep. Pretty hilarious how the pro-gun people on here don't think they can have an off day or their kids can figure out how to get access to a firearm.
So he got your credit card too? And he also knew he had to enter the 3 digit number on the back. And he entered the address and all that. Come off it mate
@@coldchillin8382 a 6 year old today could def do that, they use gift cards all the time and (should) know their address by then.
@@coldchillin8382 his phone bro. Many phones have preapproved payment methods that are locked behind (checks notes) your phone password. Totally possible.
Some parents are actively raising monsters and sending them off to school to terrorize teachers and bully their classmates. The parents really gotta hold the L in this one!
You're a monster just for calling a child a monster. You are slow AF
with a gun no less
And some raising their kid to sell bussy in drag
Not like they have a choice to send them.
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When I was six years old I had a friend with issues. Well, one day at recess she told me, unprovoked on the monkey bars, that she would steal her parents shotgun, come to the school, and blow my head clean off if I ever betrayed her. She was dead serious. I told my parents, they called the school. I never saw or heard from that girl again. Whether it's mental health or due to abuse in the home, I don't know, but some kids are seriously f**cked up and should not be around other kids, let alone have access to firearms.
Woah that’s scary
A lot of kid’s parents feel like their kid can do no wrong. The parents and the school should be liable and held accountable for this
As a former teacher, 5-6 year olds are wild, especially the boys.
As an educator I'm not the least bit shocked this happened. They tell us to report and take all threats from students seriously. Unfortunately, a lot of administrators do not.
6 year olds learn behavior from their household and community. Parents for sure need to be held accountable for raising a kid like that.
how can you hold parents responsible for environments THEY themselves grew up in? You think parents are going to magically fix themselves? They end up raising their children the same way they were raised. precisely why having access to social services is extremely important or else those cycles keep repeating.
@@CircumcisionIsChildAbuse they MUST be held accountable otherwise there will be no justice. The fact they may have been raised in less than favourable conditions doesn't absolve them from responsibility. They are not victims for letting their kids shoot someone
@@CircumcisionIsChildAbuse Because you expect better from adults. Because you expect that there comes certain responsibilities with being a parent. Because, by your logic, you can not blame anyone for anything because of their fucked-up childhood. Hyperbolically, if a man rapes someone, but he comes from a family of rapists, that does not lessen his crime and excuse his actions.
I disagree. It's a delicate balance of nature vs nurture. I mean Ed Kemper shot his grandmother not because of any learned behavior he just thought "I wonder what it would be like to shoot grandma." his words not mine.
@@CircumcisionIsChildAbuse Cause the parents are not children, they are 100% accountable for their actions and they decided to be shit human beings and allow this to happen, if incentivizing better behavior doesn't work, then consequences need to be imposed
Karma doesn’t care about your age so the heavens will discipline him . He has a lot to learn in life . My heart goes out to his teacher like SERIOUSLY that had to be terrifying. Also she told the school admins that this child was threatening her safety they didn’t check him properly. It’s very sad situation.
They leave out the part that she lived in all the headlines. I'm so relieved. Was straight up mourning her death.
I also read the full story on Washington Post, read the teacher's attorney letter, and watched the interview with the teacher because this story is crazy! The same 6-year-old also choked his kindergarten teacher to the point where she couldn't breathe a year before. On the same day of the shooting, the kid also threatened to shoot other students and punch a girl in the face. He will need A LOT of rehabilitation as a different commenter mentioned.
I honestly dont understand how an adult can let a kid almost strangle her. He is six now, so a "few years before" he was what? 4? 3? This is ridiculous. Do these adults have any agency? WTF? Same with the gun - the teacher knew he had a gun and "reported" it? WHAT? Why didn't the teacher take that gun from him, just take his backpack and take the gun. He is six for crying out loud. SIX. If you don't care about your own life maybe consider the other kids in the classroom... Are there any adults in that schools at all?
The sad thing is that rehabilitation isn't real and doesn't work unfortunately. They're lost causes, all of them
@@joannasowinska6789 so she should have had a gun wrestle match with the 6 year old and risked the lives of other students by taking the backpack and the gun? Bye
@@HolisticDramaFree ummm YES THATS EXACTLY WHAT SHE SHOULD DO
@@joannasowinska6789 Sorry, it was only a year ago (I'll correct that). He was a first grader at the time of the shooting so assuming a year before. The article was also speculating how a kindegartner taking down an adult is possible.
I don't think anyone clearly knew where exactly the gun was until he made the shot. A different teacher searched his backpack earlier in the day and the gun wasn't in it. The affected teacher saw him put "something" in his pocket, but she wasn't sure what it was. Also, if this kid has it out for you, you don't want to be approaching him with a gun in his pocket. Teachers aren't trained to handle guns or kids with guns (so crazy!) so I understand her apprehension. However, administration needs to be able to handle situations like this and they can bring in police which is why they were being reported to HOURS before, but failed. This situation could have been way worse if the other teacher who came in didn't hold the kid down until police arrived. He could have kept going off.
What's even crazier is that the parents of a knowingly troubled kid kept a loaded gun with the safety off stored unsecurely in their home. They claim that it was secured, but I doubt it. Even if it was, a six year old doesn't know enough about guns to operate it so it was clearly stored unsafely.
I don't mind the 6-year-old not being held accountable.
THE PARENTS THO? CAN WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT?!
The parents are responsible.
So when ur kid stabs someone or gets into a fight or something you’ll be ok with ur kid doing jail time ? That’s great
@@mostblunted_211 How does that make any sense whatsoever as a reply to what the op said?
That will never happen, Shes a single black mother.
and the school for knowing a child has behavioral problems and offering no professional help? but hey, let's just throw some more tests and grades at them. that'll help. just put all the responsibility on the broken family...the CAUSE of their behavioral problems. Just because the tax payer doesn't want to provide the right psychological care to their own children.
We covered this situation in my psychology 1101 class and about 70-80% people said he should face legal repercussions 💀
Why shouldn't he? The kid clearly knew what he was doing even if he didn't know the consequences of his actions after the fact. He took that action to end someone's life, intentionally. he 100% should face legal repercussions and I would not care if he was locked away in a cell and the key thrown away forever.
@@Delimon007 Because that child had like 4 years of conscious existence, what makes you think he actually understood the consequences of his actions? Just because he did it?
Why would the six year old be charged?? He's SIX!! All charges should be addressed to the parents.
Anyone heard about the recent case in Germany? A 12-year-old girl got her life erased by her two girl friends which were 12- and 13-year-old. They apparently lead her into a forest and knived her many times and some time after that, one of these girls made a TicToc dance video.
According to the law they can't and will not be charged. They even protect them from "Cyber-bullying" and keep them anonymous. These two families also apparently left that town.
Can you imagine being the parents of the victim in that case
Looks like vigilante justice is required there put out a bounty on the killer in this case.
This reminds me of the two girls that stabbed the one girl because they wanted Slenderman to love them or whatever
Maybe a psychiatrist or being institutionalized might help the kid as it’s not the first time he has shown aggressive behaviour. And the parents and school should be sued for negligence
You'd need to instiutionalize at least 10% of america
the solution is you break it's legs and you drop it in the middle of a large wooden area. There is no way to fix these monsters...
@@murdechoci don’t believe anybody should break his legs, but it shouldn’t be allowed near other kids till the end if it’s life. Nor should he breed.
Someone needs to be held accountable
I forgot she survived. Thank God
The parents need to face charges. This is a sad and ridiculous case 😔
Sure the parents need to face something.
That being said Nah, that kid needs to watched or something.
They shouldn't have been parents in the first place
Kid needs new parents.
It's their culture. You need to respect it
@@just_a_turtle_chad think we're a lil passed that.
The biggest question here is: Can a 6 year old be morally responsible for committing a crime? And is prison the proper rehabilitation for an adolescent?
Killed someone at 6? ..... I don't think rehabilitation is the answer.
Edit: not killed,wow.... I'm shocked.
They knew enough to pull a trigger. He learned the behavior from somewhere...The question is how much does he actually know?
Haven't finished the video but is juvie not on the table?
They’re not even competent to stand trial, much less be responsible in a legal sense.
Even a 6 year old should know shooting at someone is wrong.
He’s gone do it again. Troubled kids like him, this is only the beginning of him causing harm to others. Parents should be charged for negligence.
And the six-year-old should NOT be charged..
This is wild. I have a six year old in kindergarten and her friend next door is seven. A boy just told her yesterday he was gonna shoot her with a gun, so of course her mom contacted the school immediately. I hope they really investigate this because that's horrifying to think about
That's a perfect example of how a 6 year old understands the difference between life and death. This kid here deserves to go to juvie and then adult prison.
The thing is tho, its not abnormal for 6 yr olds to joke abt guns. My little bro & his friends were always yelling BANG BANG and pointing finger guns and playing cops & robbers.
But there’s a diff between playing pretend and having a real gun like the kid in this vid. So it’s good to check in on her friend& make sure for safety, but I wouldn’t fully blown panic right away b/c this kind of real-life scenario is incredibly rare
@@MaddieFishblobi have 3 sisters and i was 6 myself I don't remember joking about shooting when we was six
@@AndroGone I think guns and stuff are very dominant boy interests. girls seem to care less about that.
Time to change schools. I’m sorry your child is experiencing this at 6 years old!!!
LET ME YELL YOU! My first year teaching, I taught Kindergarten in deep East Oakland, CA. That wqs one of the most traumatic experiences of my life. So much violence, and some of them 5 and 6 year olds were huge. I got slapped by two different children working there. Threw out my back twice. I can 100% believe this story.
What is your opinion? What do you think should be done?
hahahaha yah, Oakland XD good old CALIFORNIA, the land of the endless money but no one to help in these areas of the world where the money is actually needed XD Right across the bridge you have money pouring out of every crack in the cement, billionaires, millionaires, but you drive over that bridge and you get all this.
People just don't care. they intentionally segregate these communities XD for a state that pretends to have all these liberal views about reparations and freedom and justice and equality, they sure like to ignore their own people huh? look at the housing market of oakland compared to san Francisco. just one bridge away.
Your story is by no means funny, but the "threw out my back twice" comment made me chuckle. There's some rough kids out there, product of their environment.
I just came to say how absolutely fine you are. And thanks for putting up with the shit from those kids. We need more teachers who can handle that life.
Lock em up
Parents gotta be held accountable
So a mental hospital isn't an option? That's where adults that have a child's brain end up going after a violent attack, because they aren't competent. I agree that the parents should be charged for not securing their guns, but not showing the kid who did this that he was wrong, is only going to continue to lead to more violent things, especially considering he already had a pattern of being aggressive with adults and other children. He doesn't need to be around other children at ALL.
He LEARNED this violence from somewhere, and somebody needs to figure out why and how and where, and take care of it, before it keeps escalating. Which it will, if there are zero consequences and he learns at 6 years old that shooting people doesn't get him in trouble.
Happened down the street from my family and I. Parents need to be held accountable but I'm scared for the future of the kid. The boy isn't being taught right. Gun couldn't have been "secured" if a kid can easily gain access to it.
I'm scared for the people who will encounter this evil child.
It's just their culture. It's racist to disrespect it
@@Just_another_turtle Bro shut up. Stop replying to every comment and with the dogwhistles
@Christopher Curtis Isn't being taught right? The kid was scaring multiple teachers at the school breaking a phone and then shows up with a gun shooting a teacher twice. That is a psycho kid. Normal kids don't do that regardless of being taught right.
@@Just_another_turtle Bro wtf!?
A reminder, psychopathy is not a mental illness and there is no 'cure'. Parents should be accountable now, but that kid likely has a life of institutions ahead of him.
Also a reminder, a six year-old is twelve years too young to even sorta kinda maybe be considered a psychopath. Grossly inappropriate label to put on a child whose sense of empathy hasn't solidified yet.
@@RHBR01 It is also grossly inappropriate that the boy "had a gun on him at school and was threatening people" implying that he knew that both having a gun and the use of gun had meaningful consequences/outcomes.Clearly he is below the age of criminal responsibility, but some behavior is a keystone of a later adolescence diagnosis.
Loophole accessed! If you want to put a hit on someone hire a 6 year old
I'm a parent of a first- grader. The parents need to serve time for this.
When this happened around my area and everyone found out about it we already knew the parents were partially at fault…but I didn’t even know they made that kind of statement and it’s crazy because the parents in the area pretty much believe their kids don’t do no wrong when in reality they are doing the most wild stuff without their parents knowing and it’s sad
Looks like you have to punish the parents for this along with the child make them all understand the penalties for this. Either way that monster needs to be locked up for life or put down lethality
Are these rich kids?
Well they’re doing the most wrong. This kid is straight up evil💀
Without extreme intense intervention a lot of these kids, End up being lost causes no hopes for them gaining humanity.
I'm fairly sure that many of them put on psychiatric drugs at very young age, Because they're normal energetic kids, play a part in this.
There are some pretty thoroughly f***** u* kids that come from some very f***** u* families.
@@jamescharles5907 yeah, usually single parents tend to have their child having some sort of challenge in kindergarten I’ve seen way too many stories
I know administrators can be incompetent, but I cannot wrap my head around being notified that there is a gun at school and turning a blind eye. That is next level incompetence. These people should never be around children and I really hope she's able to sue the district for their inability to take warnings from staff seriously. It's always the teachers that suffer. It's high time they get the respect they deserve and the parent(s) should be held accountable!
you don't know because you have never been a teacher or admin or school employee. schools are black boxes where society dumps its shit. with that mindset, the focus is on hiding everything and resolving everything in the dark. you would be shocked by the stories i could tell you.
Lock the parents up. This is getting ridiculous!!!
He's just gonna come back and try turning that into a flex in the future.
The parents need to be held accountable for this, how did he even carry it all the way to school without them noticing? And even after some teachers suspected and reported it, the school didn't even take action. Imagine if the victim was another child and it ended up being fatal, because this could have been way worse. This is just crazy, I can't even imagine a 6 year old firing a gun.
He probably hid it in his school bag. The fact that this was a planned attack by a 6 year old is crazy.
What are you giving pat downs to kindergarteners now?
"I can't even imagine a 6-year-old firing a gun." When I go to the more conservative parts of youtube using firearms at that age seems as common as playing with legos.
Then you haven’t been paying attention to IS history or how are parents were brought up they were kids maybe a little older than this kid shot 22s shooting in some families is considered normal as long as the parents tell the kids that these things aren’t toys and watch and educate the kid.
We had a similar case about a week ago here in germany.
A 12 year old girl got stabbed 17 times by her schoolbullys. The bully’s are 12 and 13 years old. They will also face no jail time.
Yeah that's old enough to know better wtf
“So what you in here for?”
“I shooted my teacher”
The parents should be charged and should have their right to own a gun removed. The school should face consequences since if I remember multiple people reported that he had a gun.
Parents are to be held accountable! If I was her, I’d sue the hell out of them.
You think they have money?
If I was you I'd shit my mouth
Suing is not the answer... they should face some kind of gun charge.
@@shahab814 what makes you think they don't have money?
Parents ain't got no money. She's already suing the school.
These behavioral issues are more common than you think. Not to this extreme, of course. It's becoming more frequent. My wife deals with these problems every single day. Unfortunately, it seems to be from broken homes. Also before everyone goes on a meltdown or someone says something stupid, it's across all races and genders. The adults have issues they pass down to the kids. Teachers end up fighting these kids, and then it's handled internally. The parents of the child know, but other than admins, it's not broadcasted. I fear this is only going to get worse
This is. Safc space, you can say race related issues that are taboo without backlash
I definitely think it’s going to get worse too
It certainly does happen across all races, but to pretend that it isn't a much more serious problem with one group than every other doesn't help anyone. If we can't even admit that there's a problem, we can never hope to fix it.
If anything, it causes more problems for black people who have to live around the psychopaths that we're allowing to be created. Not to mention the resentment that this is breeding in everyone else towards black people.
@@kangarooninja2594 bro what are you on about you realise these same issue happen in countries where there aren’t any black people who do you think Russian and polish and Czech jails are filled with white people. And it goes even beyond race to the point that the main common factor is poverty. Black white or whatever as long you are in poor conditions crime will occur. Russian jails are filled with white people and the fact you want to make this about race shows how ignorant you are. The most dangerous countries in Europe are white majority countries(only reason I bring up European countries is cause that’s wheee I live)z It isn’t about race but about poverty.
@@ChocoCarmelApple The big problem is now, what to do with a kid like this? Like I wouldn't want someone like this around my kids or any other kids. Like how can anyone leave someone like this alone in a school and not worry?
The fact that it was believed to happen before ☠️ blatant negligence on the school and parents end.
“ you gon right me up ? With what hand” is crazy 😭 💀
Same thing in Germany. Just recently two girls (12, 13 years old) murdered their friend (also 12 years old) by stabbing her roundabout 30 times. Story goes they have been bullying her for months and when she finally spoke up they killed her in the nearest forest.
Minimum age for criminal charges is 14. No consequences whatsoever. They are now taken care of by social workers, that's it.
Us Europeans have lost sight of what is justice
in the name of "progress" and "civility". I'm no advocate of an eye for an eye, mob justice and the sorts but we really are pampering criminals of the worst kind. There is no justice anymore, just "slaps on the wrists" and if you are a minor, not even that, even if you murdered someone in cold blood
Something similar happened in Wisconsin in my town with similar aged girls. The girls ended up with 25 and 40 year sentences to a secure mental health facility.
Wtf that is messed up. In my opinuon that is neglectful to not force them into a mental health programme, they clearly have issues & a social worker alone is no where near enough.
Thats not the same thing. 12 is not 6. The girls should be in jail for life
@@rebeccashields9626 Are you referring to the Slenderman story?
Being unalived by a kid is worst death imaginable
Might suck being shot by a kid but drowning and burning alive seems way worse.
She's not dead.
@@grindcoreninja6527 might as well be. Think she's ever going back to work or looking at life the same way again?
@@P12ooF yeah I do actually lmao
@@P12ooF "Might as well be".
I'm sure her loved ones feel the same way you ignorant, troglodyte, piece of human fucking shit.
Like, how is a 6 year old even strong enough to shoot a 2nd time? Sheesh!
"Nathan, did you do your homework today?"
"I don't know. Did I!?"
I taught third grade in the county school system for 4.5 years, having resigned this past December. Abby's experience certainly came as a shock but not quite unthinkable, especially the details regarding how she and others followed procedures of alerting administration and how her life was still put at risk. It's a glaring reflection of the current state of politics in education at the school level.
My experience is hardly comparable, but I believe it relates to the idea of safety in schools. Sparing any sensitive details, one of the things (among many) that led to my decision to leave was being told by admin to essentially barricade myself in my classroom and hide from an angry parent that meant me harm and had a history of noncompliance with our SRO (school resource officer). This parent was allowed in the building after being escorted out in handcuffs just a few months prior for seeking to harm their child's teacher the previous school year.
"the teachers are afraid of admin, admin is afraid of parents, parents are afraid of their own kids, and the kids fear *no one*."
despite so much red tape, legal technicalities, and tied hands, at what point do we decide that this is unacceptable? nothing is being done, and teachers and students alike are victimized.
Did you tell admin to screw off and call the cops on that psycho?
This is just horrible. Thank you for sharing your story - maybe more parents like me (I have a kindergartner) need to be more involved and calling this kind of horrible behavior out for what it is!
@@kait112 Thank you so much for your kindness! ♥️ It’s parents like you that made leaving such a difficult choice-y’all are an amazing support to us and schools in general! ♥️ God bless you and your little one-kinder is such a big year full of lots of growth (and sometimes growing pains, lol), and I wish you both the very best! ♥️ I think what you said about parents coming alongside us is exactly what is needed. ♥️ Thank you so much for reaching out!! ♥️
This is definitely a household problem. They need to investigate the home and put him in some form of counseling until he is 18 to prevent him from becoming a hardened criminal.
Also, I understand that household weapons should be locked up, but the bigger issue is why he felt it was ok to even use a weapon against another human being at 6 years old.
@@BabalonNuit I spent my younger years in the 80's and 90's and these types of things were prevalent then also. When I was young my father showed me where he kept his gun (revolver). Told me this is to protect the home when he's gone. He also explained that it was not a toy and very dangerous . I never touched it.
@@BabalonNuit I can confirm after playing Halo, I just go out on shooting sprees
@@BabalonNuit I actually couldn’t make a poorer generalization if I tried. Good job dummy.
@@ChuckFinelyForever Well good for you. But a whole generation is growing up being told "Violence is bad" while being babysat by a device that teaches them the opposite. That's a recipe for mental illness up the road. The kid probably took it out of his mother's nightstand/purse.
@@BabalonNuit Muh violent videogames. This is 100% parenting issue. I played "violent videogames" since I was 5 and I never have tried to merk anybody.
It's crazy to me that the kid who got graped by his teacher has to pay for child support and the teacher doesn't get jail time. So not only does he get trauma but he also gets a ridiculous amount of debt as a side dish, but this kid, though yeah I get they're 6,brought a gun to school multiple times and shot the teacher doesn't get any real punishment. That's insane to me.
2:09 ABA really hit that scooby doo jiggling laugh 😂😂
It’s crazy that they know a child can’t stand trial because of their lack of understanding, but somehow that logic goes out the window when a child wants to change genders
This
Exactly what I was thinking! I was checking the comments to see if anyone mentioned this! This comment restored a little bit of my faith in humanity and it’s future. Lol
real
Yes king lets misuse the words to sound like we actually said something!! We can also misunderstand it on purpose !!!!
@@TRSCARLET if passive aggressive was a person
Children like this have always existed. The reason it seems like there are more kids like this now than ever before it’s due to something called “mainstreaming.” This is a public education policy implemented in the US during Bush’s No Child Left Behind where kids who would normally be institutionalized or sent to an alternative school are instead put into mainstream classrooms with other students, and given a “para-educator“ to sit with them and give them any extra support they might need. In this kid’s case, he was so out of control that his parents had to take on the role of para-educator bc there wasn’t any professional who could handle him as he often had to be physically restrained. This child clearly needs to be institutionalized because he’s obviously in a bad home if he was able to get access to that gun at all as a 6-year-old, and mainstreaming him had been a disaster for sometime before the shooting incident because he just could not mentally handle the mainstream classroom environment
Right! And kids like him disrupt learning for the rest of the class so much it’s ridiculous!! We need some kids to be left behind
Yes!!! We need proper institutions yo help children with these types of issues. Parent's don't know what to do, they need professional help
@@Kaybye555 it’s not just that we need more of these institutions to exist, there are parents who are offered help and hospitalization for their mentally disturbed children and they *refuse*. Think of Ethan Crumbley‘s parents, who refused to take him to the psych ward right before he shot up his school, they were able to refuse the principal’s request to give Ethan treatment, and they were able to demand that he be sent back to his main stream classroom. Think about Nicholas Cruz, the Parkland shooter, whose mother was offered mental health services for him over 160 times during his childhood, she refused every single time and he got sent back to his main stream classroom every single time. It seems pretty likely that there was a similar situation with the six year old shooter since he had threatened to kill multiple teachers and classmates in the months leading up to the shooting, yet was somehow still allowed back into the classroom. Prior to NCLB, it was much easier for schools to expel a kid or do you send a kid to an alternative school by court order and override the parents. At a certain point, parents like those who are in denial need to be overridden, because their refusal to accept that their child needs to be institutionalized is actively putting other children and teachers in danger
The mom is getting charged with neglect.
IMHO liability is on the parents. How does a six year old get their hands on a handgun, twice??? If that child took the handgun to school more than once the parents definition of secure is wack.
I'm glad she survived! Sheesh, I hope she's not traumatized to the point where she can't step foot into a school again.
That or become a anti second amendment threat to everyone in the country for political reasons and gains
@@TheManofthecross the fact you defend that bs amendment after hearing a story like this 😂 America is the only place this happens and it's not a mystery why.
@@TheManofthecross 2nd amendment yourself ASAP
@@Welari12I love America but you’re right. Unfortunately since we were built on people owning guns, there will be chaos if they get taken away.
@@Welari12 Ari Wells. You cannot possibly be that ignorant about history and how tyrants can ruin a country. We've seen what radical leaders do when they take the weapons from law abiding citizens. Look at Cuba, Soviet Union, N. Korea and even Weimar Germany . See how taking guns away from the masses benefit evil tyrants? How about get off Tiktok and read a history Book?
She is suing the school I think.
She told them multiple times that the kid was saying violent things to her and the school did nothing.
Schools do not care about teachers or students 😢
Any the dumbfuck parents just let the gun hang around and let the kid steal it like that.
Lock the parents up for life. Their basically complicit in the murder.
Im fucking tired of these assclowns leaving their guns open for their mentally unstable 14 year olds to straight up steal
Yeah the kid was saying death threats to the teacher the week prior. What still baffles me is that the kid told other kids he had a gun, they told teachers he had a gun, and they still did nothing.
@@Pheonixess yeah it's really sad that the only time schools act is when innocent people get hurt or die 😞
@@Pika-Chu64 this some "18 seven" sh** (from the movie)
4:12 yet or at least not the whole country. Stares at Idaho (IIRC)
Why her parents aren't even mentioned, this is crazy... They should be holded accountable for this, not her kid...
The school and parents need to be held accountable.
While you can't charge the kid, the kid definitely needs to be under constant supervision and treatment.
Eye for an eye, teacher gets 1 shot at the parents
"This the last day Ms. Natalie gonna mess with me"
I can't 😂
If the six-year-old was completely out of control and had a severe enough behavioral disorder he could have been kept in an inpatient facility for safety . It is rare but it happens.
From what it sounds like, the kid is cunning enough already to trick and manipulate adults, so I wouldn't be surprised if he'd be able to pretend that he was the most innocent little angel victim of parental neglect.
Sorry they don't exist anymore because of how soft society is.
Damn.. we have to worry about 6 yr olds now. It's a tough situation but I think the parents need to be strongly held accountable and maybe the kid should removed from the household for awhile and under go some long form therapy (not just a hey how you doing type thing). If this isn't dealt with now this kid will definitely become a life long criminal or murderer.
And just imagine, a classroom of 6 yr olds now have trauma from experiencing a school shooting right in front of their eyes. They will live with that for life.
true jesus
A&P brought up a good point when mentioning the climate of schools and guns. Not just in America but in other parts of the world. There have been far too many tragic incidents for any school staff member to not take immediate action the second they hear such a claim. What if the kid had it out for his classmates?
we always have, this is not new.
The worst thing is that this is already a disaster waiting to happen. Like he shot a person already, this could get worse but no idea what you should do.
Ik and the politics they will take from this will make them in to anti 2a things
I live in Virginia and they’ve implemented policies in certain schools for see through backpacks now. During my freshman year of high school, my school had a plethora of 💣 threats to the point where we were constantly being pulled out of class. They put metal detectors outside of the cafeteria (they would also do bag searches) and the building doors, there were constant fights happening, kids were doing drugs and sneaking in alcohol on campus. It was really easy to skip classes (with little to no parent follow up mind you) and even leave the building even though we had a closed campus which meant we weren’t allowed to peruse the courtyard outside of class. I remember they brung in the search dogs into my acting class once and that wasn’t the only instance in which they did bring dogs. They would do random locker searches and we also had to have meetings about these issues in the auditorium. The parents are absolutely responsible for these happenings because kids can’t get away with doing things their parents don’t allow especially considering their lack of resources, transportation, and employment. Keep your kids level headed and busy, not just busy to be occupied but rather to be motivated. Kids with nothing to lose and no purpose are just like adults with those same circumstances only you can actually blame an adult for their actions and for the child you can really only blame the parents and their piss poor parenting.