RX 7800 XT vs RX 7900 GRE vs RTX 4070 Super - Rasterization, Ray Tracing & DLSS/FSR Benchmarks
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Hello Dear Viewers :D
Today, bringing benchmarks comparing the "mid tier rambos" from AMD (RX 7800XT / 7900GRE) and NVIDIA (RTX 4070 Super), because after all, which one should you pick?
00:00 - Intro & 7900GRE "Unlocked"
02:55 - GPU Prices (USA & Europe)
04:47 - GPU Specifications
05:24 - A Plague Tale: Requiem
06:26 - Assassin's Creed: Mirage
07:29 - Cyberpunk 2077
08:38 - Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
09:36 - Forza Horizon 5
10:06 - Hogwarts Legacy
11:02 - Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020
11:44 - Alan Wake 2
12:31 - Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora
13:11 - Starfield
13:50 - The Last of Us: Part 1
14:21 - God of War
15:04 - 12 Games Average
15:38 - Metro Exodus: Enhance Edition (Ray Tracing)
16:46 - Cyberpunk 2077 (Ray Tracing)
17:25 - Resident Evil 4 (Ray Tracing)
18:06 - Spider-Man Remastered (Ray Tracing)
18:40 - Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart (Ray Tracing)
19:26 - Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart (FSR vs XeSS vs DLSS)
20:01 - Spider-Man Remastered (FSR vs XeSS vs DLSS)
20:34 - Conclusion (GPU Prices, Value & Performance, FSR, DLSS, etc.)
25:16 - Channel Members
25:37 - More Videos
Links to the videos in the PC Specifications part:
1 - • RTX 4080 Super - 40 GA...
2 - • RX 7900 XTX vs RTX 408...
3 - • NVIDIA APP vs Driver O...
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AMD AM4 PC USED for CPU testing:
CPU Cooler: Mars Gaming ML360
MB: Asus X570 Strix-F
RAM: 2 x 8GB - Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19 (3600MHz CL16)
SSD (Nvme): 500GB + 1TB
PSU: BitFenix Whisper 650W+ Gold
CASE: Bitfenix Nova Mesh SE TG
INTEL 10/11th Gen PC USED for CPU testing:
CPU Cooler: Artic Freezer Penta 33
MB: MSI Z490 Tomahawk
RAM: 2 x 8GB - Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19 (3200 MHz CL14)
SSD: Kingston V300 120Gb
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2Tb 7200 rpm
PSU: Seasonic SIII 650W Bronze
CASE: Aerocool One Frost Edition
INTEL 12th Gen PC USED for CPU testing:
CPU Cooler: Mars Gaming ML360
MB: Gigabyte Z690 Aorus ELITE (DDR4)
RAM: 2 x 8GB - Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19 (3600 MHz CL16)
SSD: 240GB
SSD (Nvme): 500GB
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 rpm
PSU: Aerocool X-Strike 800W 80+ Silver Semi Modular
CASE: Phanteks P400A White
AMD AM5 PC USED for CPU testing:
CPU Cooler: Enermax Aquafusion 360
MB: Asrock B650E Taichi
RAM: 2 x 16GB - Flare X5 6000MHz CL32 (6000 MHz CL30)
SSD (Nvme): 1TB
PSU: Enermax Revolution D.F.X 1050W (80+ Gold)
CASE: Enermax StarryKnight SK30
My Main PC (used for GPU testing):
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X (5.4GHz Static Overclock)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
MB: MSI X670E Carbon Wifi
RAM: 2 x 16GB - Flare X5 6000MHz CL32 (6000 MHz CL30)
SSD (Nvme): 500GB + 2TB + 2TB + 4TB
PSU: Corsair RM750X (White) 750W 80+ Gold
CASE: Thermaltake View 51 TG
#rtx4080super #rx7900xtx #amddrivers - Věda a technologie
Let me know what you think about these 3 GPUs and their Price/performance ratios!
Sorry not to tell about price/perfromance ratios to keep it short, but thank you for your work and not making it 5 hours long video. Thank your for the mixed resolutions and setting allowing us to compare and decide what resolution to use them the 15:04 to 20:34 part is very good infromative summary... just missing some DLAA/NAtive AA + FG, and some RT path etc. but very nice the real 4060 ti 12GB vs the fastest RX 7750XT vs the RX "I'm not exactly a RX 7800XT neither a 7900Xt, maybe an RX 7900, not sure why I'm competing with 4070/4080/4060ti called chip". But you showed they have actual value on them, no doubt. And price is definitely lower than other RX 7000 and RTX 40 products, ratios? Not today... and stock perf/W vs optimal perf/W is even longer to answer... 4K capable all of them, crazy capable at 1440p with over native image quality at your finger tips...not for all budgets still...
The 4070-S had a great argument prior to the 7900 GRE being unlocked. But after the latest update, the GRE is the optimal choice hands down. The numbers and prices speak for themselves.
is the 7900 gre good for content creation?
7900GRE is power limited by a lot
Don't buy the 7800xt because for $50 more the 7900gre is way better.
Don't buy the 4070s because even tho it has better RT and Nvidia nvenc, it is still $50 more expensive and slower in raster.
Conclusion buy only the 7900gre
I just got the RX 7900 GRE Pure OC and I'm so happy with it. With the new driver and the potential to overclock the memory it's such a beast of a card for the price. And my daughters are happy they got dad's old RTX 2070 super.
what settings are you using on your gre? i have the same exact card. i went by his overclocking video for the GRE. im not sure if this video was before or after the last video. thanks
So glad i bought the GRE, even better they unlocked the OC potential
Hello could you do a video with the gre power limited to the same level as the 4070s? I'm curious what the fps will look like with same wattage. Electricity is absurd in many places so I'm just curious
@@ignTambirHasan it shouldnt change much, agressive undervolting on rdna 3 can halve power consumptipn while only reducing performance by 15 / 25 per cent!
reducing performance by "only" 15-25% 🤣🤣🤣🤣 u dunno how to undervolt, do you? or are the rdna 3 that bad.
4070 super draws 160-170w undervolted, while not losing any performance(u can even gain slight OC with that undervolt, depending on the silicon)
@@gooddrugs649 power consumption isnt linear. Check how laptop gpus perform compared to their desktop variants ( and I mean dedicated gpus not integrated ones ) while consuming a fraction of the energy.
@@manueldelbusto725 they perform well, but the performance loss is pretty noticeable vs dGPU's, a loss of 25% is big enough that by that point just buy the gpu below it and save the hassle of undervolting and powerlimiting.
so glad you do european prices comparison too, not all live in usa as internet pretends... prices are very very diferent and our taxes are included
Man, if the 4070 Super was $500-$550, it would be the defacto best buy of this generation. It's actually "super" impressive the performance it has with such a cut down die/bus width and much lower power consumption.
it's the only 'great' gpu this gen
maybe at 500 but at 550 not really
Just work Bro @@FabricateFrog
its above $700 where i live :/
if only it had 16gb of vram, it wouldve been a STEAL for me.
The RX7900GRE is really a RX7800XTX
Or RX 7850 XT
literally the perfect video for me as I'm choosing between these 3 for my next upgrade, thanks!!
good :D
I'm curious with what you decide on 👍👍
@@maihess 7900 gre
Me too I can’t decide I got the 7700x already for the build and my son will be playing Fortnite on it and I’ll play some Minecraft and GTA. Not sure which one would be better.
7800xt gang rise up
We out here 🎉
Should have gotten a GRE lol😂
@@allenpaul102 if only I could time travel and see the future then yes, I would’ve
I returned my 7800xt yesterday for a 7900 gre
I got a new 7800 XT hellhound model for £460! Was looking for the equivalent 7900 gre but it was nearly £100 more expensive. Very happy with this card, runs a lot better and 40°C cooler than my previous gtx 1080.
Great comparison. Thank you very much! Covered all the bases.
Thank you as well!
perfect timing brother, I've watched your channel since you did ryzen 5 2600 and 480 8gb benchmarks. And now you come with my next upgrade. my love for you is great, keep up the good work!
Thank you for always following!
awesome video thanks for all the hard work you do testing this stuff for us. would also love to see a video about overclocking the 4070 super like you did with the 4060.
Those will come 💪
I've been expecting this!.
Man, you're awesome.
All the other channel make reviews with this cards but with monters like the 7800 X3D or de 14900k.
You're the only one that make videos with a high end cpu, but, you know, not "that" high end, I'm sure you get it.
And you're the only one that includes SAM and Overclocked results.
Truly a premium youtube channel!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
7800X3D is quite "cheap" nowadays though haha
Can you explain what is SAM? Could not find it on gg
@@baoduy1994 Smart Access Memory,is basicaly Re-Bar,but when you use an AMD CPU + AMD GPU
I sold my gigabyte rtx 3070 aorus master for 350$ and bought myself a brand new gigabyte rx 7800xt for 620$. Not too bad, considering the rx 7700xt price (550$). Also I didn't go with 7900GRE because from what I've seen their lowest price is about 840$, definitely not worth the extra money. I'm more than happy with rx 7800xt's performance, it runs practically every game I have on ultra settings at 1440p (some may need FSR, like AW2, but it's an exception). My settings are: -10 on the Power limit (the card always stays at 260W), 1070mv on the core, 2514mhz with fast timings on the VRAM (I see solid 2501mhz in msi afterburner), core frequencies are 2600/2700mhz (min/max). Works like a charm, max temps are 63 degrees on the core, hot spot 86, memory junction at about 80 degrees.
Disable zero tpm and do fan speed curve 40 degreest 40 fan speed @50 degrees 65 fan speed
60 i do 70fan speed
75 fan speed 80
I run in all games i play 40-50 gpu temp in games
its only 50$ difference here
@@sinanakar5170your temps are low but the noise must be high
@@Biggie971yeah, that's why I left my fan curve on default. I can live with 63 degrees on the core, and having a quiet card is much more important for me.
thats a big gap between 7800xt and GRE, here in my country almost the same price, only 10-25 $ diffrent
Great video. I'm still tinkering on my 7900 GRE. Pretty happy with where I have it now, nice and stable, but I might try some of the setting you got to work.
I'm buying one too. F*** nvidia and there's 12gb vram crap
what settings are you using? mine arrives saturday.
Gracias por esta comparación, me encantan tus videos, así como la energía y la alegría que siempre contagias con tu buen humor. Saludos desde México 🇲🇽
Thanks for the video! Just in time because i was really curious of what to recommend to my brother to buy!
Great 💪
thank you so much for your incredible work !!
Thank you for watching!
Got my 7800xt on sale for $519 plus i had $100 in gift cards from Xmas. I didnt want to replace my 750W PSU for the GRE. I replaced my 5700xt but kept it to build my daughter a gaming PC around that card. Even though I'm perfectly satisfied with the 7800xt when i see my 5700xt sitting in its box...i feel sad. That card was (is) GREAT. It aged so well.
Great content btw...
I got mine for 460 at micro center open box
I don't think you'd of needed to upgrade your PSU for a 7900 GRE, even with an OC the card doesnt exceed a 7900XT's power draw (which recommends a 750W)
Great Video full of Great info, The GRE is hard to turn down at the price..
It's always great to watch your comparison videos!
I myself will be going with the RX 7800 XT since it fulfills my needs for the foreseeable future and I wouldn't like to stretch my budget even more than I already did (I was debating between the RX 7700 XT at $399 or the RX 7800 XT at $499 before).
Thanks, good pick
Its kinda funny seeing the GRE being talkd about again. When it came out all I would see was "weird chinese card" lol. Nice to see more options now, might help pricing, hopefully.
Please right down the best 7900GRE overclock settings ;)
I'm fine with my ASUS TUF RX 7800 XT performance for the 1440p/1080p games that I play. I think a lot of people just get lost in the benchmarking e-sport side of things & lose perspective regarding exactly how much GPU you actually need at any given resolution for a quality gaming experience.
nobody benchmarks e-sports with top tier cards (apart from CPU comparisons), not in this scenario
I got that exact same card, just put this tune for Better performance:
Base clock - Min 500Mhz/Max 2980Mhz
Vram Clock - 2614Mhz
Voltage - 1080mv
Power limit - 15%
Fan Speed - 70% or 80%
Thank me later.
7900gre oc + sam is better than any 7800xt
@@adlibconstitution1609 we know that, didn't you watch the video?
All you have to do is overclock it if you need any extra performance and you have the same fps as a stock 4070 super that costs like a lot more in my country. I don't think you need to even overclock it in most situations
thanks, been stuck on these 2 for ages u finally made me decidde to go with 4070S
As the pricing stands today in the UK, the value buy is the 7800XT. The 7900 GRE is £70-100 more which is madness.
I like how you Put Those Vram Frequencies Note, it gave us Heads Up what Problem Could happend when we increase the frequencies without Increase the core voltage limit.... Safe lot of trouble
Thankyou My Brother
man the 4070 Super is an awesome card. Just got one for 450 USD, and man. worth every dollar. Gotta jump on deals when you see them. (btw followed your channel when i had my AMD cards, and i recommend your channel to all my friends who have AMD GPUs. Keep up the great work)
Thanks, you can keep following haha
Did I sell you my card? I just sold one for 450 lol.
@@MastaDivinityit's a small world
what brand was it? Gigabyte from Best Buy? Ewww if so.
nah, it an asus dual, but what's wrong with gigabyte cards? i've had them in the past and never had issues with them, along with their motherboards.@@ofon2000
I like your speakers in the background! I have some amazing speakers now, cheap for what they are but what they are is some pretty big speakers... Yamaha NS-777 tower speakers. I didn't like them on their own though so put my bookshelf speakers and a subwoofer with it.
These ones are from Akai, they're okayish, but with this amp they sound good
what is the better choice regarding the GPU's idle consumption if the PC runs a lot each day only for office work or netflix, youtube etc...? (1440p / wqhd)
thx :)
Good choice for comparison, all 3 are currently nice value cards for 1440p.
At the moment I'm happy with my RX6800XT 16GB, I don't need an update for now
Honestly been thinking of a GPU upgrade the 4070s class, Was leaning over torwards nvidia but if the new Fsr3.1 coming is any good might just go for that
Thanks! I bougth a 7900 GRE Pulse after watch your videos. Especially MSFS 2020 benchmarks helps a lot when make this decision. I needed a graphic card 4K sim gaming and this one get job done perfectly with 7800x3d.
Glad to help, thanks for the donation :D
Great vidéo
🔥🔥🔥🔥Great content as usual, I was wondering if you would be interested in investigating Sam/resizable bar , cause I cannot get it to work properly as in it is on but poor performance massive fps dips and stuttering iv been trying to solve this for some time and so have a few other lads I know , but no matter bios / settings / file configs and hardware changes just carnt get it running smoothly “as it should” with all different PCs and configurations on WARZONE , it would seem it’s a big issue no one can solve … and you would be a legend if you could solve it … or look into it 👍
Great video, as always!
Just upgraded my GPU with the 7900 GRE but I feel my B450 AM4 board along with my Ryzen 5 5600x (and DDR4 ram) might be holding it back. Do you think it's worth upgrading to a B7800X3D/B650/6000 CL30 trio?
Thanks a lot!
Worth? It is always worth if you have the money available
could you please do a in depth video of ryzen 7 cpu overclocking? im very interested in a static clock speed like you have on your 7700x. i have the feeling that my clock speeds are all over the place while gaming and it can effect the fps quite a bit.
Hi i can I have two choices i can build a pc with 12400F + 7700XT or 7600X + 6750XT
For the same price so which one i should prefer GPU or CPU
I will be using for gaming and live streaming mainly and some lil bit mining
Hey think you can make a video about the benefits of each driver and manager?
Im talking about Adrenalin vs Nvidia Geforce (not sure what they use anymore tbh) and compare what they both have and what each one has that the other does not.
Im planning ob buying either a Zotac RTX4060 or Asus RX7600, and since they seem to perform similarly i want to see if one has better options in the driver manager section.
(Price difference is like 10 dollars or so)
Id take the GRE over Nvidia every day and twice on Tuesday.
lol haha, understandable
the other one usually dressed 'well' too though on daily outfit, its just her concept on screen
Great video, as always. I wonder how much bigger can get those differences at 1080 and 1440 if you used the 7800x3d... BTW, why are you still on the 7700x?
At 1440P? Basically zero as AMD cards have lower CPU overhead and my RAM is tweaked. At 1080P? A bit more
In 1440p nothing😅 in full hd is the 7800x3d the best you can do and give y idk like 10-20frames more
this exactly wat im shoppin for ty
Haha how much time do you have for games now man, you seem busy as hell 😁 thanks for all the video's mr. Pisco ;)
Time's short now haha, but I manage it
Thanks again for a detailed insightful video. Quick question, how can one determine with certainty that SAM is enabled in one's system?
It’s on one of the adrenaline tabs showing a brain icon and if it’s on or not
Its in the performance tab in adrenalin
@@YordanHristooov Thanks
@@AncientGameplays Thanks
I'm highly interested in tight timing vs normal. As I mentioned yesterday I crash everywhere with my gre memory but perhaps I have some hope
Great video i was thinking about getting on these cards , i still don't feel comfortable getting a 12GB card in 2024.
I think you can see how the 12GB is going to start being a problem in 4K, RT High, FG On. That's really something to consider over the next year or so.
Your channel has exactly the type of comparisons I was looking for. Thank you so much.
I recently purchased a discounted open-box 4070 S (plus the free Wukong game promotion) because I really enjoy RT and I am going to be doing a lot of gaming in the next few months (sold my 2080 Ti to a friend). However, I also plan on upgrading again as soon as the 5080 is available. If I was planning on keeping my upgrade for longer than 5-6 months I would have gone with the 7900 GRE for sure. This 12 GB on the 4070 -4070 S is some next level bs, but since I found my 4070 S discounted and it included a free game I just went for it. Although, I'm getting tempted to return it and buy the 7900XT for $650 instead...
Regarding PCVR, which of this cards do you think it's best, Fabio?
Hard to know as I never tested
Well i have 7800 XT, happy atm.
How big of a difference does the extra power draw make, in terms of cost over time?
depends on how much you pay for electricity.
Thanks for this video! I have same gpu 7900 gre nitro. During the video you mentioned that it is possible to install a vbios from different model.
Do you have any tutorial link regarding bios flash for 7000 series card?
The nitro is the best gre model. I do not have any videos on that though
@@AncientGameplays I just noticed that Sapphire has 2 SKU numbers for the nitro+ 11325-02 and 11325-05 do you know the differences? I have the 11325-02 and I'm wondering why they released 2 different SKUs
Question: the game footage at minute 1-2, is that 4K? Asking because it’s absolutely beautiful on my iPhone, crisp and clean !!’
It is shown in the middle the resolution and settings
When you are showing results graph, with "OC+SAM" you mean non reference OC? Like for example ASUS, MSI, or any other AiB make?
Oc+sam is the oc values on the second chart + SAM
Merci pour vos test de qualité bien supérieurs a la moyenne quand ont est passionné de hardware c'est appréciable
De rien mon ami
Thanks for including the Ray Tracing comparison. I'm aware of the performance drop for Ray Tracing but I'm simply not going to do research and price compare on video cards if I was planning on playing without Ray Tracing. It's been years, we're past the point of considering Ray Tracing a gimmick. I'm planning on buying a new handheld PC with Oculink and buying one of these AMD cards to use with an external dock. The Phax uses an RTX 4090 connected over oculink but I can't afford to buy another 4090, that would be financially irresponsible. I sold one of my PC's recently a 3080 equipped PC and I want a portable replacement.
i got my 7900 GRE Sapphire pulse, and I'm so excited for it to arrive!
How is if
I’m pairing the 7900 GRE with a Ryzen 7 5700X3D.
Should I use one of the presets available in Radeon Adrenaline?
Should leave it on default, or should I press on Undervolt GPU, Overclock GPU or Overclock VRAM?
If you're going to OC do it manually, always
@@AncientGameplaysproblem is I don’t know how. Where do I start?
Did by chance run the MW2 benchmark because the MW3 benchmark crashes with the 7900gre? 😂 . Thanks for putting all the work into this vid! I love the 7900gre. And the overclocked memory is definitely worth it. Im stable around 2400 myself and i noticed a big boost in furmark and MW3. But i cant run the mw3 benchmark for some reason with the GRE.
Nah, just didn0t spend my money at all with MW3 lol
I also own a GRE and hand similar results regarding VRAM speed.
2460 fast timing is equal to 2600 standard timing in benchmarks
Hmmm 7800XT and 4070Super the same price in my country... what do you think I should get?
I dont regret getting the 7800xt, couldnt see the Future but i dont need the small upgrade 🤷🏻
Nice ❤❤
may i ask something? do you think a 7800xt for 420 to 450 euros in portugal used is a good deal?
Used? Too expensive
Jesus is born again.
… and does GPU comparisons ….
Ps. Jesus is #TeamRED ✊
The Portuguese Steve.
Thanks God!
Jesus!
Jesus walks again.
My 7900GRE had memory samsung , so she dont take more of 2316 with fast timing, better if i disable fast timing for up memory like 2400 2500 ?
i HAVE THE 4070 SUPER Aorus master. Which allows me to push 270 watts constant. Stays at 60 c lol.
My 1440p results for cyberpunk was 118 (113 in video)
And my 4k was 58 (53 in video)
I maintain over 3ghz the entire time, and my memory overclocks to 1700 with no demishing returns.
Absoultly insane what this top card can do lol holy crap.
My aorus master 4070 super can draw up to 260 Watts on average with Max OC.
I get 118 in cyberpunk, instead of 113.
And 58fps at 4k instead of 53.
Crazy. Having the absolute best model of a card really paid off.
I mainly bought the master because of my hot environment and I needed a cooler capable of keeping the card cool.
You never goes above 61 Celsius even with the max overclock.
Incredible.
And my FPS games are quite massive. Ranging from 5-8 more fps than others, despite their own overclock.
The extra 30 watts of power draw seems to really play a big part here. I'm assuming the extra power is used by the memory which then cause better scaling.
Because even though you can have your memory high there can be diminishing returns.
But since I have a higher pool of power, it can do it.
Yeah, but the 7800xt is reference here too
Finally! Was waiting for this from you. I've been seeing so many people saying they could reach 2500mhz at insane undervolts of 950mv. However, I know for a fact that they're OC's are not stable.
I might've missed it but don't think you mentioned anything about what you set the core to?
2800mhz
I did. Watch the "790GRE unlock" part
On my GTE Nitro+ 963mV proved to be really stable. Everything below this voltage was stable in some benchmarks/games but unstable in others.
@@AncientGameplayswas there a difference in what frequencies you could reliably use between your AIBs seeing some have higher power limits?
Would you recommend Sapphire Pure over Nitro+?
In my country Sapphire Pure is $560 while Nitro+ is $620
At that value, pure for sure
Need to make a video on how to fully unclock a gpu, never done that before. If we can remove time, who cares about frames per second
please what is that first person puzzle you are playing during the conclusion ?
Its desordre
@@AncientGameplays Thanks a lot, going to check this out. Did you like it ?
My conclusion: I don't really care about RT but more about raw power and future proof gaming. I just got the Sappire RX 7900 GRE Pure and with the latest driver which let you overclock the memory, this card is a beast for it's price. Got my clockspeed @ 2.780 and memory @ 2585. It's been a long long time since I had an AMD gpu but I don't regret buying this beast of a card. Yeah sure the Nvidia cards have better RT but in my case only in Cyberpunk. Apart from that this card rocks all my games like a wild animal. Dunno about others who own this card but I dare to say this is by far the best buy for 550 euro's. You can't go wrong with this card for the price imo. Overclock this beast and witness it's raw power!!!
Agreed
nice video
Thanks!
Just bought a GRE. 4070 super was about £100 more like for like so I'm happy to have chose it.
I didnt know about the amdvflash bios, i have a 7800xt hellhound, would it be interesting to switch the bios with a red devil to squeeze a little bit of performance ?
in your case your power limit is already high, so you're fine I guess
@@AncientGameplays Thank you so much for your answer. So it means the powerlimit is higher on a red devil version ? but it would be ok on the hellhound even though there is less vrm or less good, I am not sure about the red devil specs
possibly, you need to check the BIOS and see@@skyryudo311
@@AncientGameplays thanks so after checking the bios difference from tech power up, the only différence it says is Power limit PPT and some Fan speed: Power Limit:
HELLHOUND: 228 W
RED DEVIL: 236 W (+8 W)
I'm a bit confuse i thought power limit was in the 300 W with 15% uplift. Is PPT the minimum power the card can receive with an undervolt ???
do we have benchmarks for helldivers 2?
Only in the gameplay videos
I know this might be out of the question but do you think the amd cards have at least decent performance on machine learning software? I have the 7900xtx like amd advertised it would be the card for ai workload and gaming. But other parts still haven't arrived. What do you think?
The software support is just not there yet
lol you got scammed by AMD then, literally no support for Pytorch on Radeon gpus yet in Windows so idk why you even think about machine learning using Radeon gpus
@@Eleganttf2 RocM ? That's no support?
@@thepizzaboy7904 i said literally in my comment IN WINDOWS
@Eleganttf2 yeah rocm is now in windows
Quite the large "sponsor transition" 😉
😂😂😂
Hello ancient does ryzen 5 5600 bottleneck 7900 gre on am4 b450 motherboard build at 1440p resolution ?? Please reply
Generally will, even at 1440P
Hi mate, I just bought a Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT and just saw the Sapphire Nitro+ 7900GRE is avaliable to preorder for £60 more, do you think its worth the value to future proof my system? I don't think the 7900GRE would last another year compared to the 7800XT. Should I just sell the 7800 when the next few generations of GPUs come about? Thank you 👍
If I were you I would just keep the 7800XT and later upgrade to the 8800XT when you have the money
any idea why the ram usage is 1-2gb lower on Nvidia system?
Because the more vram you have the more thr system allocates
I can't choose between these cards. My son often plays and streams youtube with an old laptop. I'm thinking about a 7500f or 7600x cpu. But I don't know which card is more suitable for streaming. He still plays Fortnite, roblox, rust, minecraft, Team Fortress 2. With the new computer, he plans to add to his gameplay and streaming CS and GTA. Would a 7800xt be enough or is it better to add about 100€ and buy a 4070 super for about 610€? Maybe someone can advise from experience? A big thank you!!!
the 7800XT would be more than enough especially since he's using an old laptop. IF you don't know how to setup your PC to the minimum, then get the 4070 Super as NVIDIA cards are more "fool proof" than the AMD ones, but as stated the 4070 Super is faster and consumes less power AND you have more features
@@AncientGameplays Yes, you probably rigth. 7800xt will be enough, but +100€ for 4070s will be more cost efficient for long term run on electricity bills 🙂. Thankyou 🫡
The power consumption sold me on the 4070 super . Even though the card is $50 more I’d actually save money in my case cause I can keep my current PSU power box instead of having to upgrade and spend almost $100 plus tax along with the gpu lol
Update nvm I changed my mind and ordered just the 7900 gre instead lol. If my psu blows up then fuck it … it was worth it 🫡 🥴
Im coming for the GRE. 😎👍🏻
But ill wait some months more, i guess its price will fall down a little.
Fabio, would it not be an idea to run all your tests you do with your cards not only at stock speeds, but stock with ReBAR enabled? Your tests are almost always stock, OC and OC+ ReBAR. I can say 95% of people if not more will use stock + ReBAR as most motherboards (new ones) have it enabled by default the ReBAR function.
I ask this because in a lot of test you do it looks like Nvidia is performing a lot better on the stock settings compared to AMD in most the tittles you have. So i am wondering how the gap would close of still be as big if it is stock with ReBAR on. That would be really helpful in your benchmarks i believe!
Yes, the next retests (when Ryzen 8000 come out) will be with SAM enabled by default, and will have Stock and OC
@@AncientGameplays That is great! I like to see ofc the overclock results as you already have, but seeing everything at stock with ReBAR on would be a nice bonus.
Eventhough i also did test my GPU's to about the limit except more Vcore wich i don't do i always leave it at stock after because a fast GPU like my 4080 Super does not need an overclock although very capable of it!
Whenever I see one GPU winning in 1 game and the other GPU in other games, I think is a tie lmao in raster.
It will come down to whats the price and if you care about DLSS and Ray Tracing.
Fsr 3.1 will be a game changer there if it comes to be as good as it seems
For myself, here in Australia it's actually become a tougher question than it used to be - 7800XTs can go for as low as 800AUD, 7900 GREs starting at 930AUD, and 4070 Supers starting at 1000AUD.
I'll admit that I'm a big fan of AMD purely from a bang-for-buck perspective, but I don't deny that the 4070 Super is the better card overall.
My big concern with the 4070 Super is the new 12VHPWR connector - I am aware that the issues it had have been solved, but it's still a concern.
I'm leaning towards the 7900 GRE, future-proofing should be better, but it is hampered by the memory throughput (I think that's what it's called) 18 Gbps vs 19.5Gbps on a 7800XT.
Open to suggestions....I'll also have to replace my PSU regardless of choice.
Fabinhoooo. Acabei de comprar uma 7800 XT. Estou super entusiasmado para colocar os teus ensinamentos de UV em prática porque a minha fonte é de apenas 550W. Deseja-me sorte 🤞
Força nisso 💪
What is the settings for your OC+SAM?
7800xt already has a video. 7900gre ans 4070 super will do as well
@@AncientGameplays heh? what?
oc is normal overclocking but SAM? Idk I nerver hear that
@@noname-vw1oi it’s amd’s smart access memory
Hey folks. How is it? Please, some experienced 27" monitor owners, I am reaching out to you: is 4k a real deal visual fidelity wise for this width? I am planning to sell my laptop and build a PC with next gen CPU GPU hitting the market. And I am sort of ok on money, but I hate the feeling of being ripped off for nothing. So I am really looking towards 1440p mini led monitor. Again: which is the real deal for 27" 1440p or 4k?
Thanks
I have a 27" 4K monitor and the extra pixel density is definitely welcome and looks great. Although, it isn't necessary
@@AncientGameplays thanx!!!
I did buy a XFX 319 7800XT and do like it i have not used anything close to 16 GB of VRAM yet but i am surprised to see how cool it stay's never gets above 63c and stay's around 58 to 60 c it also overclocks nice i got it about 2680 mhz at 1050Mv's and stable playing the last of us for 4 hours no crashes i am impressed i paid 501.99 plus tax but well worth it i have another computer with a 4070 ti in it and the other has a 6600XT in it by the way i am impressed with FSR 3 turned my RX 6600 into a 1440p gaming computer nice drivers also like the AMD 24.1.3 driver very nice and stable.
I have the same 7800xt. I set the core to 3000 and VRAM to 2560. It's been running stable at 970mV, with actual core freq topping out around 2700 on the +15% power limit. One thing I don't like about Adrenaline is it focuses on package temps, not hot spot. My package temps runs about the same as yours, but the hot spot is high 70's to low 80's at my settings (though not high enough to thermal throttle).
I don't get why the memory of the 7900 GRE wasn't OC'd together with raising clocks and under-volting.
Stock is 2250MHz, it is OC'ed eith fast timings also
Hello!
I have an RX 7900 GRE and I have a very bizarre issue. I was able to achieve a stable memory OC IN GAMES of 2488MHz. But as soon as I exit any of my games, or the GPU is not at 100% load, my system crashes and ERROR 41 shows up in eventlog.
Has anyone ever seen anything like this, or is it just me?
This issue is only present when I'm overclocking the VRAM. If I set it to the pervious limit of 2316MHz, it is always stable.
The system crashes = Not stable. As stated in the video and by you, as soon as you go 2316MHz it doesn't crash
Hi same here, I can use 2450MHz or even more and in game I have no issue, but I noticed, during game start or exit, some reboot freeze (2 times in 4 days).
I just lowered memory at stock to be sure the GPU is ok and for now no issue.
I guess memory oc until 2350MHz is fine for pretty much everyone after that level you can have stability issues.
Same. Games are fine, as soon as I try Lightroom or Photoshop (I'm a photographer) I get a crash. Think I might just go back to stock where it was completely stable for games AND Photoshop.
Keep in mind 100-150MHz more on VRAM can give you ~2-3% more real performance so it doesn't make any sense to push the limit near the instability threshold.
I scored 24800 in time spy with my 7900gre nitro but with a stable oc I can get ~24000
Tldr: for only 3% more possible performance I prefer stability
Of course something better comes out after a month later when I bought my 7800XT. And the worst part is my Hellhound 7800XT is priced the same as an XFX 7900 GRE in my country.
Xfx is not that great. Just keep an denjoy your card
@@AncientGameplays Thank you for the reply. I needed the reassurance. A question: How do the Sapphire 7900GRE variants compare to the Hellhound 7800XT?
I have a 7800XT and its honestly really good, but its collecting dust as I also have a 4080 Super and 7900XTX. I really want to be using the 7900XTX but Gigabyte Control Center (which I need to control all my RGB bling bling because none of the open source apps can do it properly) causes the AMD drivers to crash constantly. The card I got happened to be a Gigabyte Gaming OC model, and that app can write to the vBIOS and override the Adrenaline app causing driver crashes. Kind of a pickle, not sure what I want to do with it.
can someone help me choose if i should go with 7900 gre or 4070 super? electricity is no issue at my place and both of these cards are the same price here. please keep in mind that i will be using this for 2k or maybe 4k gaming in some games it may run. (pairing with a i7 14700k)
If you care about RT then go with 4070S and if you just want to play native resolution then go with 7900 GRE. I am personally going with a build with the 7900 GRE
When i record with Adrenaline the sound is too Low, sound ingame and mic.
Maybe last drivers bug?
I try everything....
Use the audio boost option
@@AncientGameplays not work : (
I could have got a 7900 GRE but my country has zero stock of it so I got a 7900XT instead on same day delivery instead of waiting like about 2 weeks to order overseas.
Hello, how long do you think a computer with the 7800X3D + RX 7900 XT & XTX will last? How many years do you have any ideas? The RTX 5090 is almost here it I.A 😤
Will last it for a good time mate
@@AncientGameplays i play native grafics 2560x1440p it Sapphire Pulse RX 7900 XT 20GB and Ryzen 7 7800X3D is OverKill to 1440p but Windows 11 pró come it I.A tecnology they wana PPL Change to NPU coz I.A intél only Core ultra i-9 have this tecnology it I.A for Windows 11 pró Microsoft for desktop for now no need atm but they try force ppl use processor it I.A on Windows 11 pró latter coz that is ask for now only laptop it i9 have this tecnology , the Ryzen 9000 have I.A tecnology ?!