WW2 - From Stalingrad To Kursk
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- čas přidán 29. 11. 2021
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In late 1942 the Red Army had gathered thousands of tanks to launch its largest offensive yet. It could end with the destruction of half of the Axis forces on the Eastern front or in total failure. The outcome would be determined by the way how the Red Army deployed its tank formations.
Maps: Army Map Service, USA; USGS.
Music: Hearts of Iron 4.
This video uses assets originally created for the World War Two channel.
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@@zeitgeistx5239 good idea
Imagine Eastory making second channel where he would play hoi4 and comment his gameplay with this legendary voice
He should totally do it if he wants to
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Or if one could play against him! As one can play blitz chess against world champion Magnus Carlsen (although that is not a good idea...)
How many times he mentions, "encirclements" and "redeploying their forces"
It's not too often you see a channel you like do a sponsored video that deserves support from their audience, but this is one of them. Way to secure the bag. Keep those good map videos coming.
The ad was pretty cool, the 8:15 template was a bit autistic tho.
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@@biharek7595 thats hoi4 for you
I usually skip the sponsors, but this time I did not
You've just done a better job in 9minutes than what most documentaries could manage in hours.
All of Uranus, Saturn/Little Saturn, and Kharkov, all made sense of in under 10min. Phenomeonal.
Just wait until the WW2 channel finishes up with this part of the war
Eastory is just simply amazing
He's a pretty good narrator! No BS and no rambling of whatever number each corps had. Those interested can see that on the map.
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I would recomend TIK's series to know in depth about the battle of Stalingrad too, he starts with the operations on the bend of the Don that is too often forgoth in documentaries about Stalingrad, and lead to many misconceptions.
Love the hoi4 intro, hoi4 mapping is fairly capable of easely depicting things like this, it was smart to do the sponsor this way, instead of just mentioning the game.
I have 2k hours on hoi4 :D and im suprised that paradox collabed with him
@@flukz.z lol I have 7k hours
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For reference a Soviet tank corps is roughly equivalent to a German panzer division. Generally fielding between 120-200 tanks.
Thanks for saying that, I was quite a bit confused, thinking the soviets had a really gigantic advantage in tanks since usually a corps is comprised of several divisions
@@thomasb.5643 Soviet units in general were smaller than their German counterparts. A German infantry division had twice if not more the personnel of a Soviet Rifle division. At the same time we can say a German army was the equivalent of a soviet front, although this changed by the end of the war by the time that soviet fronts were much more massive.
@@Turnet47 soviets used battalions and not divisions iirc
"Chinesise Divisionen", AH called them to diminuate them for morales sake. And on a smaller scale, a Soviet regiment was smaller than a German battalion. It is a scandal that they couldn't agree upon a common standard for killing each other!
@@jasonmain6398 No, soviets had divisions. Their designed size was about 11k soldiers.
"Force them to recognize us as a proper nordic country!" laughed out loud, literally.
The olden Scandinavian way was to only respect those who had beaten you at least once.
@Черный Барон Because the German army needed manpower lmao, he still hated slavs
@Черный Барон general plan ost, he planned to send tens of millions of people over the Urals to starve
I love these videos, the large scale of them showing the entire theater helps put the events and decisions of iconic battles into perspective and adds much needed context to the questions people always ask, like for example "why not attempt a breakout of Stalingrad?" and looking at this map and seeing all the forces between Paulus and the German lines you understand why.
My two favorite things, Hearts of Iron and Eastory, now in one video!
About cutting off whole Southern Front instead of cutting just Stalingrad: One of your previous videos showed us that this strategy was abandoned after the failure of surrounding the Rzhev salient. It was better to encircle most capable forces in Stalingrad than making them to leave the city and gather to counterattack at Rostov.
I‘m not sure how capable the forces in and around Stalingrad would have been by November 1942. The main body of the 6th Army was already massively depleted when it reached the city, and this got progressively worse as time went on. This is also the main reason the city didn‘t fall: their offensives kept being stalled by lack of replacements or reserves and became progressively weaker as the troops carrying them out melted away. Due to how few reinforcements they were getting (which the OKH was sending to the other Army groups, for reasons), by mid-autumn 6th Army was arguably a whole army corps below authorized strength.
By the time Uranus started, fighting in the city had devolved into small-scale action between smaller groups of soldiers-Paulus could no longer gather men and vehicles for serious offensives.
So I doubt that the troops in Stalingrad were worth surrounding more than other formations. Their frontline personnel was definitely a lot less numerous than in other formations with a similar number of divisions on the German side.
But they were certainly a target of opportunity and another force might actually have fought back a lot harder.
@@raylast3873 its true but if that happen, all of the axis available fórces will try to regain rostov, if they Succeed, perhaps they would lose Many italian and hungarian troops
@@raylast3873 the reason was that Stalingrad offensive was an logistical hell.
Sending men there was worse than useless if you could not arm/feed/house them.
@@hq3473 not really, it‘s just shoddy General staff work. At the very least they ought to have replaced direct losses which did not happen and just doing that would probably have allowed them to take the city.
This was either a massive oversight (or miscalculation), or Halder was intentionally routing reinforcements toward Heeresgruppen Nord and Mitte because he still wanted to take Moscow.
In any case, replacements certainly didn‘t share his (or your) position on the matter, as after he got fired the number of reinforcements for Heeresgruppe B and 6th Army increased drastically, but it was too late at that point.
This is a really smart way to integrate a sponsor, and much more than that - quality content as usual!
I do have one question though: another history Channel called kings and generals released a series on the pacific war at roughly the same time you released your video, and I noticed that there were a few times where I noticed that what you said in your video and what they said in their video conflicted. Who should I trust? I've never encountered this sort of issue on CZcams beforehand, and I'm not at all qualified to say which one of you is correct, or if there even is a disagreement...
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Could you give an example?
You mean Eastory's pacific war video right? Without knowing what you're specifically talking about I'd have to wager a guess that you should lean towards the kings and generals video. Eastory's pacific war video is very short for such a big multi year conflict, and focuces only on troop movements. Kings and generals is a much bigger series of videos that have a wider focus.
If you like though, there is a far better video on the pacific war: czcams.com/video/qE_iNUXhrfw/video.html
The grand strategy of Japan 1919-1941, by the criminally underrated strategy stuff channel.
Though I'm not sure if this video goes into the issue you're having, since you never specified what it was.
@@formgrya6927 strategy stuff is a good channel
If you're interested I'd just dive into the source material. Read secondary sources by academic historians and see what primary sources they draw from. You may end up with the opinion that both channels are wrong depending on who you read haha. There is a serious lack of citations on youtube, only a few channels do it adequately. Reading books provides so much more information and allows one to really grasp the scope of fact vs argument in history.
Edit: that isn't to say videos aren't nice
6:00 AG South HQ was at Zaporozhye. When Kharkov was taken by the Soviet forces, Hitler personally flew to Zaporozhye to talk with field marshall Erich von Manstein, who calmly remarked that holding out to the last man won't work. 3 days later the Soviets broke the lines and got close to Zaporozhye. Hitler gave von Manstein freedom to act according to the situation, and flew away on his plane. Soviet tanks were just 30km from the airfield when he was taking off.
Too often we forget about SS general Paul Hausser. He was the guy who defied orders from Hitler to hold till the last man, and retreated his forces from Kharkov and preventing it from becoming Stalingrad 2.0. Hitler threatened have him court martialed, but never did so especially after the counterattack which retook Kharkov. Hausser was later promoted to Oberst-gruppenfuhrer, 1 of the only 4 who held such rank and 1 of the only 2 field commanders (the other was Sepp Dietrich).
U seem to know a lot, when the 4 panzer divisions were brought from the west to reinforce the weakened ones already there, one of the divisions has ‘GD’ on it instead of its div number and I’m just wondering what that stands for/means as panzer divs are black and that’s a white infantry colour
@@kazzatermination7867 Panzergrenadier Division Grosse Deutschland. It was form in May 1942 as an elite armoured division on the Army (The other 4 armoured divisions in this battle were all SS divisions -- SS 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th)
@@yatsumleung8618 ahh thank you!
Thank you for visualizing the Soviet plan! It was not only the incirclement of Stalingrad and operation Uranus, But also Mars, Saturn, the collapse of the Hungarian and Italian armies etc. That was just as decisive and important for the great turningpoint. I always thought about it but never have I ever thought someone will make the best video out of it! Thank You! ❤️
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.... también deduje que las acciones y ofensivas soviéticas hay que entenderlas en conjunto.
Un saludo
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Hoi 4 should add more historical starts, including fall blau and Uranus.
Would love this
HoI3 had this
Too much effort for Paradox
They refuse to do any more alternate start dates leaving it to modders instead
@@docpossum2460 why Paradox didn't carry over many HoI3 features is beyond me, the start dates and scenarios made fun challenges.
As nearly nobody plays the 1939 scenario, the Devs did not bother adding additional starting dates.
The budget has dropped we are using Hoi 4 now
have you watched the video? he animated it
The weird corollary to this is that NOT breaking out of Stalingrad was actually the correct decision as it tied up forces that could cut off entirely army group South (which would be a war ending disaster).
Me *playing historically accurate just like in the video*
Hoi4 AI: *Fascist Empire of Kiwi joined Axis*
*Mexico naval invade Leningrad*
Norway: "preparing for German invasion"
Italy: Buon giorno!
Hello Adam Hilt, you look kinda sus, are you from Austria?
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Austria? Never heard about it
"Luxembourg has called Bhutan as our enemy in the Belgian-Siamese war."
These are the absolute best videos on this subject I have ever seen. And I’ve seen them all. Great work.
Indeed! And it is a great idea to focus on what happened between Stalingrad and Kharkov. Battles without pretty names has potential because they have been less covered.
Amazing to get a deeper corps-level view of your regular content. I love your videos, Eastory. Keep up the good work!
This channel has some of the best ways of explaining what was really going on on the fronts. Keep the high quality content coming.
Love to see you got paradox is sponsor you, you deserve it! Whilst I already own HoI4 and its DLC's its nice to know some of my faverouites youtubers are getting some money form my purchase.
I love every Eastory video. It helps show ww2 in a visual way.
Cool video dude!!!! Keep up the work!!!!!!
Great that you have got a sponsor especially from paradox! Love your content such high quality. Keep it up.
Paradox supporting your channel i see as kind of "Thank you" from them, i think you have promoted HoI many times indirectly. Well deserved
What a relevant partenership! Interesting for your audience, you and your positioning and finally for Paradox that targets a perfectly qualified audience 👏 keep it up I love your channel
Thanks Eaststory great video as usual
I love the videos you make
I'm enjoying the new format.I've player this Ganea for years and sometimes i tried tot recreat the video about eastern front.Thanks for the great content.Keep up the food work!
Another amazing video. Thank you!
Another absolutely brilliant video
Excellent as always. Thanks.
Another excellent video as usual!
This video brings so much knowledge and I hope you make more of these!
Well done, keep up the great work!
@Eastory I really enjoy your videos, WW2 is such an interesting time in history and you explain it so well! It is a treat to watch your videos!
honestly one of the nicest and genuine sponsorships ive seen. very wholesome :)
incredible video as always eastory
This channel is such a gem! The animation is brilliant, examining the very interesting and complicated winter campaign of 1943 in detail.
Also, strange to see Soviet forces in blue and Germans in red. Probably red for the Soviets and steel/grey for the Germans would be more fitting.
Wow!!!!!!!what a synopsis!!! The animations were very helpful! Thanx!
*Love your videos, man... pure quality. Please, keep making them! Greetings from Serbia!*
The Soviets thought they'd caught approximately 90.000 Axis troops in the Stalingrad encirclement, but in reality they had caught approximately 300.000!
most of them werent combat troops
Isn't there some confusion between about 90 000 German troops and the rest being Romanians and Italians?
@@bjorntorlarsson definitely no, there were only 2 Romanian divisions and 1 Croat regiment in that encirclement. 90% of the combat strength reaching 220 000 men was German.
@@user-qi3sn5vi6t I don't know how it actually was. But it is often claimed that Romanian and Italian troops made up the majority. I'm sorry if I unintentionally repeat myths here. I very rarely look at sources myself, I'm only a third hand, recounting from what I remember and understand of what historians have claimed. And they might have meant the larger front than only those encircled. 90,000 was indeed rather the number of surviving Germans captured, more than that might very well have perished before that.
@@bjorntorlarsson yeah, there were exactly 91 000 men, who surrendered in the end - on 30th of January - 2nd of February 1943. Your intention to be neutral and cautious in your statements (which is unfortunately so rare) makes you a big honour.
My man is back!!!
Love your videos mate, keep up the good work
Beautiful presentation, thanks for this.
I love your work. Keep it up !
I love your videos been watching since the start
Awesome episode. Thanx!
Almost perfect. I would love to see an even more detailed map simulation of the battle of Kursk and Stalingrad, and in combination of "fog of war", you know where you see what the two sides knew about each others troops, reserves and movements
Thanks! It's not easy describing in detail all the dances the Eastern front did in early 1943! You did a great job showing the moves which led to the 2nd and 3rd Kharkov battles, Rzhev salient destruction and Kursk salient development.
Best historical animator in the biz hands down. Always look forward to your work
Loving your videos! Please continue to do smaller ones like this!
Superb work as always. Greetings from Australia. Thank you for your efforts. :)
You deserve it sir. I am shock when you said that paradox sponsored this video since this is not a Gaming channel. Proud of you sir, and continue your work. ^^
Eastory my man, this video is 10/10
Excellent work.
good to see u back
Thanks so much for this amazing content
Fantastic video, pls do more of these.
Best WW2 Channel
Great video! I like your art style and format; it's a counterpart to The Operations Room
Please do continue to make these videos! We all love the content
Very interesting as always
beautifully made!
Great sponsor integration. And nice recap and overview of the situation.
And glory to Terra Mariana!
Loves your videos!
Love ur vids man
This fits perfectly with the new Hearts of Iron 4 - Add-On : No step back!
Great and interesting way to integrate a sponsor into a video. I wish you luck with the CZcams grind
This really is a clever way to teach these topics. Very easy to understand
Thanks! As a history nerd like me I'm glad you did these videos!!! Thank you very much :))
HELL YEAH EASTORY UPLOADED!!!
The one I cant wait for you to do is the Africa or Italian front. The latter is often regarded the forgotten front of WWII, but it needs to be shown how well Rommel did initially in the former, and how strong the defense was in the latter even with Italian surrender.
wow amazing video!
Dear Eastory, please continue the WW2 in the East episode. It was a nice video! Please make a part 2!
It will be next up.
@@Eastory when will you upload?
Great video! Also great game! Please keep up the good work!
Great video, i always wanted to see a real barbarossa in hoi4 style.
You are the MAP BOSS of WW2.
And those Orders of Battle are absolute CHAD TIER.
I had just rewatched your old 1941,42 and 43/44 videos
Very nice! Hoi4 and Eastory in one video!
I love your videos !
new eastory video, let's gooo
I love how he collabed with paradox
I love your channel
Good job !
You channel is to good, I hope you get 3 million subs
Ahhh my fellow Estonian brother is back again, love your content. Eesti Vabariik!!!
This is such a wonderful video, I’ve never felt the need to say this in the comments before now…
I love HOI and your videos what a dream come true!
This video was really good
Paradox + Eastory = amazing. You should setup a WW2 server for your fans Eastory :)
love your channel and the video sponsor, looking forward to more!
also have you thought about what comes after WW2? I know theres a lot more left still to cover, but if/when you do something new I think the Korean War could be a good option?
From animated map content I have made a promise to cover the Russian Civil War.
@@Eastory that’s a great idea, friend! I think Russian civil war is of the most interesting conflicts in history
Lovely video as always! Estonia is nordic in my heart
Great job, this one is for the algorithm
2 eastory vids in less than one month, what type of God's gift is that?!?!?!
Finally an answer to the most important question, what is that incredible accent Eastory has.
Love your channel and the videos... i think it would helpful to also mention troop numbers of infantry and numbers of armor vehicles, if you have that info... it would also be useful to make a general note of the weapons between two armies before commencing of battles.. thanks
The hoi4 soundtrack fits your videos perfectly
About that cutting the axis forces of with the strategy suggestion at the end. Who can be sure that they wont be able to retreat over crimea via a pontoon bridge or similiar devices. And in that case you have the elite 6th army that you already had captured facing you yet again.
IMO the big soviet stratrgic failure the prior winter (right after barb) was repeatedly going for a grand encirclement on army group center instead of taking the smaller encirclements that repeatedly opened up in front of them. Every time they tried for a wider encirclement it allowed the Warmacht pull back troops and tighten their defensive line. I think the Soviets learned from these failures.
Edit: I don't think its a coincidence that when you watch Eastories coverage of the later portion if the eastern front or Western front, you repeatedly see the allies taking andvantage of mediun sized ebcirclements to take Axis troops off the field.
@@Ravie1 But in 1944 operation Bagration managed to destroy Army Group Center and encircle Army Group North
@@albertofernandez2490 Wasn't army group north purposely left in Lithuania/Latvia because the Germans thought they could re-connect the front and didn't want to loose the ground they had in the Baltic? As for army group center, yeah when the line collapses you'll get encirclements, in 41/42 the soviets were dealing with a better equipped foe relative to 44. Doesn't mean refusing to wipe out smaller pockets is a good move.
Holy crap. When it saw that this was a sponsored video, I did NOT ever expect that it'd by Paradox and HOI4. Way to go, dude!