How to Exploit Futures Prop Firms (FULL Strategy)
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In this video I teach you how to exploit futures prop firms. I'll teach you prop firm risk management, which prop firm to trade, which account size to buy, and which day trading strategy to use for prop firms.
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Bro thanks for the content... The link to the board is not working and there's no telegram link
Can’t thank you enough for the very valuable advice you are giving away. The MMXM still does not click for me, but I’ll train myself to read it on the charts. The choice of account size was an eye opener, these prop firms are not our friends indeed.
@@ShankarSingh777fxword I'm looking for the telegram link too
Nice work, very very helpful. Can you send the link to your telegram? Thanks
The link to the board isnt working! Thanks for the video!!
I am funded and have had a lot of success with top-down analysis of Daily/1Hour/15Min (1-5M entry). Great video!
Thank you! Keep it up
I fell for the large account size trap. I also got burned by trailing draw down. This video is golden. You have to play the game correctly to win !!
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Not necessarily a trap. Just more strict requirements (and slower progress if you want to be safe)
Kinda makes sense in that they want to make sure that you are less likely to blow an account with bigger money. (Up to 6M vs up to 1M for 300k vs 50k accounts)
Just get a bunch of little profit trades and dip (even if it takes you more than a month or two to achieve) Build up cushion on funded THEN start holding trades to targets.
Trade es micros(5 max) and take your time!
@@mikelang4853 exactly my thoughts!
Same!!!
Day 2 of 1st Apex eval. Started after watching ur full ICT video. Up 173 dollars on my 50k in 8 executions, 1st trade was -8 2nd trade was +12.60 3rd trade +25 4th trade +50 5th trade +100🎉🎉
hell yeah 💯 starting mine next week
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@caspersmc absolute gem pm bro your hero
Keep it up, good luck
You want a cookie 🍪, work on doing this every day on a consistent basis.
I agree with you 100% and just made a video about this as well! These props firms should only be used as a tool to duplicate your personal profits or to make money and fund a personal account.
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One thing i wish you would’ve mentioned: the trailing DD eventually stops. You can scalp your way to the Trailing Drawdown +$100 then if you want to hold for longer trades, you can.
does the 30% rule still in effect after you're past the trailing drawdown?
@@jukarera1635yes it does. So one way i like to do it is take your trailing drawdown and multiply it by 30%. So on a $50K account, thats 2,600 x .30 which is $780. Make MAX $780/day and you are good. If you have 20 accounts thats $15,600. More than people make in 4 months. All about perspective
@@jukarera1635 yes, but after your 4th consectutive month of payouts the 30% rule goes away and you can withdraw however much you want. bit annoying but atleast it goes away
@@jukarera1635 Yes
@@jukarera1635also curious about this
loving the new miro layout on the current videos. super organized and clean. keep it up!
"Super?" Wow
Thank you so much!
Thank you for breaking everything down here. I'm a chart pattern lover so these ICT concepts are something very new I'm learning. Appreciate your detailed explanations.
Thank you! 🙏
In reality you are one of the best mentor I have wach their vedios
Thank you so much!
You're so passionate about what you do... comes through your videos clearly. Appreciate all the work you put into these! ♥
I appreciate that!
Great!! A couple of bits that would useful to know - lot size and RR targets for evaluation stage. TBM does a negative RR with a high 70% win rate
good initiative ! well organised methods and high level teachings. everything was on the spot !
Thanks a lot Jesse! appreciate it. Looking forward for the position sizing and calibration of stop loss when using challenge accounts
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Just passed multiple Apex evals, 12 trades , 100% win rate, and now up on the funded, so I don’t agree with this video, I definitely plan to keep my accounts and milk as much money I can. I don’t want to redo these evals over and over again. Simple, learn to trade, and print.
How u trade?
@@funnyvideostiktok1608 After 2000 hours screen time, and years of failing, it’s simple as experience and screen time. Pure price action + elliot wave, that’s the secret sauce
My fav TF H4 and M15,Thanks 🙏 I see am going in the Right direction of my trading journey
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Casper, LEGEND! you crushed 2 dozen Gurus with this. Fantastic knowledge in Detail.
Thank you so much!
Thanks for this Jesse, amazing work
Glad you enjoyed it!
This video is GOLD!!!
Wow! Thanks!
Casper proffers solutions to real issues in the trading world, Casper gives good counseling😊💙
Thank you for such great content might be the most value ive got from a one video
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome stuff! Thanks!
My pleasure!
Fantastic video, thanks for presenting and explaining these key concepts that few others do
Thank you so much!
Best video I have seen in a looong time!
Thank you!
Always greatful for the content and insights. 🤝🙏
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pure GOLD thank you Jesse
My pleasure!
Thank you very much. Best teacher 100%
Wow, thanks!
Great info thanks for the content. Have you had any issues getting paid at Apex and have you looked at any other prop firms?
This was really well done
Thank you!
I became consistent once i put the prop firm aside, real trading is done with a Personal account in my opinion😉consistency of Patience
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Thanks for a great tutorial 👌
My pleasure!
❤this is really a eye opening
Happy to help!
Thank you for doing this for free Jesse. I wish that I could afford you to teach me 1 on 1 . But I'm going to use this information to better my life. God and you get all of the glory.
You can do it!
He doesn't do it for free, he wants to make CZcams money. He just isn't charging you. You have to watch ads or pay or premium
24:42 I think you have mistaken with the timeframe the M15 chart on the video is actually 4H and M1 chart is actually M15. Btw great video I have learned a lot from you only by watching few videos of yours. You're doing great work man god bless you. Love from INDIA 🇮🇳♥
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Hi Jesse. What about contract sizing and risk management per trade?
Also is it only on NQ and ES for the strategy you showed?
Good information thank you
My pleasure!
Another great video Jesse
Glad you enjoyed it
Very good explanation. Thx for your effort
Glad it was helpful!
Good stuff! It would be nice to see bar replay examples of each concept starting with HTF that is more step by step.
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Apex. Ha. Side note: I cofounded a prop firm a few years back for profitable traders. We had to close it. Not one profitable trader long term
I recently heard this somewhere else.😮
Thanks so much, Jesse @Casper SMC. Your educational content is a game-changer for me and my trading journey.
One question - how do you combine multiple accounts on a prop firm? You've shown 20 APEX linked accounts. How is it done?
Thanks brother!
It is done with "trade copier" software that is provided free from the prop firm (APEX). Once you get in you will learn how it all works. When I say free, I am talking about APEX and their Tradovate platform, but I don't recommend the TDV trade copier. With APEX you also get free access to NinjaTrader, and free data, and you can link all your APEX accounts in there too, like TDV, but NT has a much better trade copier. It will cost you around $150 though. I bought Flowbots trade copier for NT, because I heard it was the best and so far it works great. I actually got Flowbots Replikanto trade copier for $110 with a 30% coupon I found on YT, if you look for it.
i understand how much timing is key Nice video
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Thank you ❤
You're welcome! 🙏❤️
Great video..thank you. What is the 7:30 open? Chicago time zone? i use the RTH open 9:30
Excellent video. Again it is like you are talking to me personally. Please make a plan with the link. It says page not available.
Great video bro, in the 1st example you did the iFVG the next candle or candles did not return to trigger an entry but you mentioned this was a valid entry ?
Also what is your experience on this MMM & entry model for the London open ? cheers
Hi Jesse! Thanks for the great video! One thing I'm not clear on is why you only receive one payout from a prop firm account, then close it and get a different account. Did I understand that right? Why not keep getting payouts from the same account? Thanks --
This is why I only trade the S&P 500, Nasdaq is Notorious for stopping ICT setups by making one extra push to ERL
I noticed that too. Es will hit irl while nq hitting erl. Still a good reversal signal sometimes
Can I use mobile Trading view with Apex? More importantly using the copy feature. Nice video!
Hello,
Which program would you recommand for journaling trades?
CASPER I'm a forex trader but the market is not very clear but after watching your videos I learned about mmxm and now i'm a funded futures trader thank you! and i want to ask was you a ICT charter student or not
Great to hear!
Enjoy your content but you are wrong regarding the statement “they only make money if you fail”. Once you go live XFA they copy trade your XFA and profit from that. Finally once your XFA goes to pro live, they make money via their split. So they actually make money from both failing evals and profitable traders. Not just failing traders. :)
For example Topstep use professional live brokers for when you go from XFA to pro live. If you are making $1000 most days, that is $100 for them. Which massively trumps someone taking a week to blow an evaluation and pay a tiny $49. I know a lot of the guys at the bigger props. They absolutely love it when someone comes in and smashes it. That is why normally after 30 green days or roughly 15-20k profit, they move you live. One they can’t afford to just hammer fees out of an XFA, and they also want to make a 10% split on someone good. They win no matter what. Just feels wrong saying they only make money on failed traders.
90-95% of profits prop firms make come from failing traders…
Yes, this is correct. And they probably size up on any trades they're copying from consistent traders.
They copy trade probably less than a tenth of a percent of people taking challenges. And not all firms even have a live trading branch @11OAK11
This is very true. Prop firms don't just make money when you fail. They actually want consistent traders because they make a percentage of everything the traders make. I'm sure they also size up on those traders
Great video, only thing that would have been great is position size. Many people over leverage.
i agree, was hoping that was one of the questions/answer in the vid.
I trade only NY so intraday trading, I risk 5% of drawdown limit, and calculate the lot size accordinghly I take only 2 to 1 minimum set ups, to start if you proven to be more than 50% times correct, is a good base, not too risky I think, this is for long term, burning to evaluations, not sure yet but way more I think, may be 25% of the max drawdown
Obviously that part was left out, risk management is more important than the edge.
Gday buddy, love your videos and looking to sign up to course next month. hey just tried downloading the board but its not happening. cheers
Hey casper do you have a video of how you link your apex acounts to a trade copier? Cheers
Great video
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So is it correct that if a firm has no trailing drawdown, it would be okay to buy a large account size? For example ftmo or alpha capital?
Precision funding is the best prop firm in the industry
Not even close. They offer 50% profit split, the worst in the industry.
An exploit you can do is make sure you have a strategy let’s say has a winning rate of 70%.
Purchase five 50k accounts and full margin on them. The 70% win rate will guarantee you 3 out of 5 challenge accounts passed in 1 day. (Apex allows same day evaluation pass).
You then trade regularly without hail marying and follow your RR rules.
Excellent prop firm advice however for a true low time frame scalper, I C T stuff is overly complex crap, never used it to pass my accounts.
thanks that guy from apex on that clarification email really made me feel like he was my bestest pal lol
Can anyone reccomnend a trade copier for futures, trading via TV?
What trade copier do you use? I passed a few challenges and was wondering what trade copier you use.
I use FlowBots Replikanto trade copier which works with Ninja Trader. Works very well.
Really great teaching. Thank you. I completed the form at your link to get the board, but it the link was never sent to my email address. Thank you.
Have you got an intraday strategy you dont mind sharing or making a video about ? Keep the content up
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Hi very nice videos! from previous course can't reach pdf files about charts and descriptions. any way to reach tem?
I screenshoted them and saved them slide by slide
Does apex pay out to UK bank accounts? I heard some prop firms will not let you take out your payout due to not being able covert the the currency.
AMAZING VIDEO YOU JUST DECODE THE DARK SIDE OF PROP FIRMS. AND BRO I AM UNABLE TO DOWNLOAD THAT PDF
Which currency pairs these ict strategies work out?
I just passed a 150k on apex since ratio profit goal dd is nice
Why do you prefer TGG? Do you only trade forex?
legend.
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My strategy is scalping 2 to 1 rr can. Can I do this with apex or should I go for a 1 to 1 strategy?
Do you pay monthly fee on the challenge, or is it after you get funded
Is there any significance to the $40k profit target you mentioned between the 20 accounts? Or are you just giving an example?
make a vid on how to exploit newbies on trading space
Best copier when trading multiple accounts ?!
what is your risk % approach on a 50k PA account
bro your content is valuable, but free download link for board in not working in this video and last video
Thanks for the video. Can't visit your website. the link doesn't work.
For Apex, the hard thing is to pass the evaluation for the current offer of $16 for each 250K account. But I think you forgot to mention that in APEX, after you have an active account the minimum profit required to make a payout is 2.6K for a 50K account and 6.6k for a 250K account. Considering the proportions, you just have to double your sizing, and it's still conformtable because you have the triple of drawdown and just trade for a bit longer. The activation of $85 fee for the 250K account it's a win compared to the cost of activation of the regular 50k account. And I realized it's not about the "size" of the account, it's about the drawdown. With 20 50K accounts, you actually have a 2500 (drawdown) x20 = 50000 balance.
Can you tie more than one account for the combine and pass them all in one shot?
7:30 open. Is that New York timezones?
@caspersmc what's the significance of the 7:30 am opening price and where do i find more information about it
@kblehero If you are in a market buy model and there has been a market structure shift that has returned to a fair value gap. You can use the 9:30 opening to find an entry below that time and enter for max profit. Use trading view 10min chart and indicator ICT daily levels and zones fadi and fluidtrades - SMC turn on zig zag. Take a look at the times and and when it pumps.
Sir I need live trade together with you so then you can correct my mistake and the is the a video when you say liquidity is you so I don't understand in which way do you mean
I don’t understand what you mean 7:30 am open EST ? Are you saying like the open of the premarket ? I thought the market opens up at 9:30 am est ? I’m confused if you can please reply . TIA 🐐 🙏
Amazing how much this helped. Yet I am confused on your lot sizing to only get 300 dollars per acct.
I think since the drawdown limit is 2500, he only can risk 2-5% on each trade, so about $125 max, and so hes getting 2 or 3 reward to risk ratio of only a few hundred dollars. Thats why open 20 copy accounts, each making 300.
hey bro. the pages for the downloads are not loading, cannot access them
What trailing thresholds means?
This guy is saving the world. 💗 Thank you for looking after us...
My pleasure!
Every time I click on the link provided by you to access your course, it gives me a message "page is not available "
Why a lifetime membership is a trap verses a $80/mth accont? Will I loose this account if I'm not careful?
So is there a limit to how many payouts you can have per account? If it’s 140$ per lifetime why pay the 30$, plus 80$ for each new account if you can pay 140$ once and then just receive a payout every 2 weeks?
Why when I click the free download material it says " the page is not available " :(
Idk about the monthly fee or lifetime fee argument. If you can consistently make profit, you would not expect to blow your account. Holding a 50k account for 2 months isn't that hard if you just trade small.
We need a vedio on Opening Price and marking it
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“You don’t want to keep your funded accounts for a long time- bro what? I’ve had my fundeds at Apex for 6 months 💀 bad traders don’t keep their accounts for long. Good traders do.
Generally, I found the video helpful. However, some of the concepts were covered too fast for me. I couldn't answer the question "What is a market maker model?" based on this video alone. The second concept was what to do with prop firm accounts. It sounded like you said get an account, get one payout, and then stop, but since you have 20 Apex accounts I am sure that is not what you were meant. I will watch the free ICT course.
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double like 😊❤
Thanks! ❤️
second video i can't get the free ebook it says "This page is not available "
I always put “prop firm” in quotes when referring to these pay a fee to trade sim company’s