Now I'm Impressed // RG35XX Plus First Look
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
- The RG35XX Plus is the latest mini handheld from Anbernic. It comes with a significantly more powerful processor, built-in Wi-Fi & Bluetooth, and a decent stock operating system.
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Timestamps
00:00 - Intro/Unboxing
00:26 - Specs / Pricing
01:45 - What can this do?
02:36 - Size Comparisons
04:40 - Hardware Changes
06:43 - Wi-Fi Support
07:43 - Netplay & Streaming
09:52 - Bluetooth Support
11:24 - HDMI
13:03 - PD Charging Support?
14:35 - Stock Software Improvements
18:06 - SD Card Contents & Adding ROMs
18:52 - Installing Garlic OS 2.0
20:06 - Garlic OS 2.0 Testing
23:16 - Performance Testing
25:45 - Thoughts / Worth the upgrade?
Disclaimer: This review includes affiliate links. Anything you purchase from those links helps support the channel. - Hry
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Decent day 1 stock firmware for a budget handheld from Anbernic was not on my 2023 bingo card.
Question. you think a shell swap would be straightforward with the old atomic purple shell from the nonplus? Can they please keep making atomic purple everything
I'm sorry but did you mention if this can use wired headphones?
Think it's not good....
please could you tell me where is the video about emulation, you mentioned this at 1:51?
@@aravindkancherla8668 The Plus is a little bit thicker so I'm gonna assume it will not work unfortunately.
The part where you lined them up by size and then power.
Chefs kiss*
Loved the size side-by-side followed by capability side-by-side. Very clear review (as usual)! Thank you!
Thank you for this!!!!
I just ordered mine this weekend.
This is so much more thorough than I wanted or expected with this, but this was incredible! Thanks!
Ive been following your channel for a while now waiting for a handheld that fits my needs and budget, i think this device might be it. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for this EXCELLENT review and comparison along similar price lines. You've earned a subscriber.
Very thorough, informative but efficient info. Thanks!
thank you so much for this incredible review, so much detail and effort. thank you so much
One of the best videos/review I've ever watched on CZcams
This is hands down one of the best reviews! It was so in-depth that I had to look at the one I just ordered to make sure I wasn't missing out LOL
What would convince me to upgrade (from RG35XX).... 1) larger XYAB buttons, 2) better speaker (or stereo speakers) 3) shaders support to emulate CRT displays (esp. useful for HDMI output) 4) Bluetooth 5+
Mine is coming in a few day! Super excited for it.
holy shit man i was worried as hell after watching the community post (i ordered mine 4 hours prior to that), but after watching this i can say that i have indeed made a decent choice for my very first retro handheld. thank you for this video.
Same
What post??
I've watched so many videos at this point on the RG35XX and its Plus variant and every single one has confirmed it's the handheld for me. They're really nice models as long as you don't mind vertical handheld design (which I personally *love).*
did your RG35XX+ die already?
Is it still good ?
Great review. The best review I have watched so far ;)
Taki great video like always. Happy Holidays!
Same to you
Thanks for the effort and money invested for a proper good review. Liked and subscribed.
You sir are a great reviewer... subscriptions achievement earned!
Ps love the comparisons videos the market is 2 big and confusing i like knowing which is best then go from there
this vid came out 7 hours after I pulled the trigger on a miyoo mini+
Well they haven't fulfilled the order yet, so you can still cancel it.
You do realize that you need to do your homework on CZcams watching here and there before taking a decision right ?
You won't regret it. I've got one and they're awesome. Granted I got mine for $36
depending on the price the miyoo mini + is very good, it's pretty easy to say that it has the most polished software and a very active community backing it up, the only thing i dislike about it is the screen, the colours are kinda washed up
You are gonna be fine, unless you ordered black one, then there is a risk of screen falling off. An easy fix though. Anyway I put onion os much higher than garlic os, based on my experience.
Thank you for your valuable review, very professional and helpful.
I only found this video AFTER I bought the system, but boy is this video good! I already did a lot of research before buying (it's my first retro gaming handheld, and it's actually not even for me but for a friend's child), but I learned even more here than I knew already. And it now even helped me for stuff that I was wondering now that I have the handheld in my own hands, for example if it is worth to install OnionOS 2.0. And I was shocked to see that N64 games instantly work as soon as I copy some roms onto the SD cards, because the console didn't show up in the RetroArch emulation menu before.
So I guess what I'm saying is: Thank you for this great video, this was very well done. And if this is the quality you are always offering on your channel, I might very well consider subscribing now.
/Edit: I just found out that I actually watched another of your videos before buying the system - the comparison video for RG35XX Plus / R36S / Miyoo Mini Plus / RG35XX. And I also commented on that video - however, that was a bit less enthusiastic. Basically, I said that the information presented in the video was very good, but the way you presented it was VERY confusing (no labels for the systems, order of how they were shows changed constantly, and you even changed the RGXX35+ model throughout the video (white model / black model) which confused the hell out of me.
As soon as we can get one of these handhelds running PSP smoothly, with analog controls and at this price point I'm immediately picking it up.
Very informative, great video!
Excited to get mine.
Very detailed and good video sir ❤
Im already happy with what the 35xx does. It's awesome they made an upgraded version, but I'm still waiting on a better ps2 emulation machine
Same here, I need a good cheap reliable ps2 emulator
Same boat. Give it a year or two.
Steam Deck
@@jorgechavez3115 500$ vs 50$ lol
@@jorgechavez3115 Most People's Idea of Cheap is sub $100 not Sub $400
Thanks for the info. I bought 3 of these to give away for Christmas. I'm kinda wanting one for myself too
I was very tempted by this but went with with RGB30 for the same price in the sales. XU10 was only $49 in the sales too.
How is it???
I'm debating the RGB30 vs this
man, this looks reallya wesome. i have a miyoo mini v3 and im not the most tech savvy. the lack of wifi for updates really hurts me because ive already messed up trying to install a newer version on onion os. the capabilities of this really appeal to me, but i still like the portability of the original mini. ive been thinking about selling it for a while now to upgrade to something like this or plus.
I'm still thinking i may just wait it out until the miyoo mini flip finally releases, if i can get my hands on one that is. even if scalpers upcharge it i may be able to sell my mini and all accessories to pick one up.
though, i literally just got a pocket flip to dabble in android emulation. not as compact and pocketable but if it causes me to stop playing my miyoo mini altogether then i guess it wouldnt make much sense to get a different device. i do love the sp form factor though
I don't worry about any software limitations since I intend to swap it out with GarlicOS 2.0 when that releases fully. Any problems the stock OS has are just temporary until that period of time, really. I mean there's no guarantee that all of these issues *are* software limitations, as you mentioned, and certainly no guarantee GarlicOS will cover all the necessary features properly, at least not in earlier iterations which will probably require some fine-tuning after launch, but as far as I can see, it's just a matter of time and I am a very patient man.
Decided to try out the Alpha of GarlicOS 2.0. Not sure where to put Dreamcast, N64 or PSP games to test those out, because it didn't create folders for those systems, so I'll just assume it's not supported yet. Not a priority, anyway, I just wanted to see what games could be made playable out of the selection I have. The better an idea I have of their playability on the system, the sooner I can decide if those versions are worth keeping and clear some extra space on my microSD card.
But it doesn't really matter, I can wait for the full release. Hopefully it's ready soon. Looks like it probably won't release by the end of this year, if that recent post from BlackSeraph is any indication, but that's okay. Shit happens. I'm excited, though.
I also assume there's no wifi support in the alpha, because I don't see any options, which means I'll probably just stick to fiddling with Tetris before I get into any of the bigger PS1 titles I wanted to play since I want to play those with RetroAchievements on. It was kind of a pain to even enter the information since any movement of the d-pad added a question mark to the text line for my username or password, meaning I had to constantly delete it as I moved across RetroArch's keyboard UI.
note the a53 cpu is 3years older than the a35, which is effectively a shrink of the a53 with better power efficiency. H700 performance likely to be similar at a given clock than the rk3266, be interesting to see a performance comparison with the r36s using the same emulator
I may have to get this one now... I bought the RG35XX a couple weeks before Christmas
love the vids taki
Can't wait for the review of the 35xx Horizontal, I guess it's everything this one is but horizontal 😊
Excellent Review ....You did well...
Now I wish I would have waited another 4 months before buying a retro Handheld for my library, the plus sound so much better than the base version and manages to play the systems im kinda interested in playing on the go.
Thank you for all this content Taki. Been watching your videos for a long time, and I'm about to finally get one of these.
Just one question : any "buzzing" sound while using headphones on the RG35XX ?
I was about to get the RG353V and heard about these sound issues, so I worry a bit about this.
I would also love to use some airpods with this, hope it gets fixed soon !
No buzzing sounds. Even though I did audio output for this video, I just tested with some AT headphones and there is no noise.
@@TakiUdonNoted ! Thank you for your time 👍
Mines on its way Im so excited
I like the way you says: "before nintendo goes crazy....." 😁
THANKS SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO !! FOR THIS PRICE IS A NO BRAINER BEST 2023 XMAS PRESENT
Hi thanks for the great content ! I loved the new video, the deep dive
How long did you wait for the delivery for this device ? (I know it has been shipped from China)
I live right near their company, so I got it in one day.
I hope there is more horizontal devices coming out with this price range. Haven't seen anything new since RG353PS.
Retroid would probably be your best bet
Ones implementing sticks along with the d-pad would be nice. I'm not likely to wait for them, though, and I don't like the look of vertical designs with sticks, at least not nearly as much as I like the RG35XX Plus, so I'm probably pretty set on what I want.
But I guess there are a lot of more expensive options that fit my criteria and open up more gaming options, so if I ever decide to upgrade, I'll have plenty to choose from. I don't see it happening, though, because it's really the budget price that sells this for me. $50 for the base version and now this $70 all-around improvement makes it a pretty definitive sell. It's basically the cost of a modern triple A game, that's honestly a steal for a handheld with as many features as this.
I mean I love Nintendo, their 3DS line of systems, and certainly they offer a lot of potential with their systems, but when that launched that was $250 and had no fucking games. This is a device you can easily install whatever you want on with great customizability right out of the box if you're willing to install custom firmware.
There's simply no mistaking the value in comparison. It may not be a great option for 3DS games, though possibly it could play some, but up to PS1 and Dreamcast? Some N64? Great!
I giochi sono già presenti?
Yeah 3ds type retro handheld with a great price pls.
They have a horizontal version of this in the rg35xx h
C'mon Temu lol. Thats how i got my og 35xx for half price. Very impressive Anbernic. First time in a while where they are leading performance wise in a category (mini SBCs).
The video is really fascinating to see, looking for things not everyone is talking about. i do have a question: what is a PD charger ? ^^
I investigated the H700 chip a little bit and it is fascinating, while it is not very powerful in general, it can do H.265/VP9/AVS2 4K@60fps decoding. It is probably because this chip was originally made for a projector and I guess they didn't sell too many projectors.
nope.
Thanks for covering this - great video as always!
One thing which would be interesting to me if the buttons feel the same as the original 35XX (except from the slightly changed form) ... as in did they use the same rubber dome as before, because I personal find the to be phenomenal!
Could you please verify if they've gone with the same ones or not?
Rubber feels the same on all of the front buttons.
@@TakiUdonThanks!
Do the back buttons also have the same nice defined actuation as the 35xx or did they change their rubber along with changing the plastic parts?
I’m happy with my regular RG35xx. Just used it on a flight to Texas. I also upgraded the battery to a 3500mah battery. 4+ hours of battery life
You're only getting 4 hours with the bigger battery? Are you playing at max brightness at all times?
Yes. Most of the time. @@JustinShapley
@@MasterOfNone88turn it down a couple notches. It isn't a huge difference but you'll get a lot longer life before you have to charge it up. (Or don't but I did and i get around 5-6 hours)
Well I did say 4+ hours...im getting near 5 hours of play time. Also, I play outdoors when waiting for bus and train..I need my brightness all the way up. @@RemyBonnici
I liked the part where he put it next to the controllers at the end
very sneaky :)
Maybe in two years these kind of devices will be able to run everything without problem. Can't wait.
Stock OS on the ARC D I just got has been great so far too, did Anbernic actually hire an OS team? Out of the box Saturn performance on that shocked the absolute hell out of me. There's light bleed in one corner and the game card slot has been a little flaky, but overall happy so far. Now I have the ARC D if I wake up feeling my Sega kid roots, and the 353p if I wake up feeling like a nintendo kid.
Don't think they hired a team. They have the benefit of being able to use fixes/tunings made by CFW for the last 1-2 years.
Now I'm really considering geting this! Thanks for your thorough review. Btw, what portable screen is that you used to test out the HDMI out...? I'm looking for a portable display just like that size. Thanks!
I have the rg35xx. I don't really care about the additional consoles this new one supports, but if they get the Bluetooth to work with headphones/earbuds that might sway me. Also the rounded corners on the dpad would be a welcome change.
i want the bluetooth for 8bitdo controller support
and wifi for retro-donkey-chievemnts
It's BTv4.2, not even BTv5.0 so video playback will have a very noticeable latency, much less game audio output which requires at least BTv5.0 AND your earbuds/headphones having a dedicated "game/low latency" mode to make it a lot less noticeable.
Thanks. In your opinion, when it comes to an actual emulation use case, do you think that a RK3566 device can do more than this one assuming custom firmware is available ? I mean, is there a system which is out of reach for this one but that a RK3566 could handle, or a system which could get upscale while it would remain low res on this one ?
Been thinking of getting my nephew and myself a retro handheld console. I might just order this and get my nephew the miyoo mini or the standard rg35xx
I spent 55$ shipped on mine on eBay. I’m extremely happy with it but I haven’t got the hdmi feature to work. Maybe my 6$ Amazon cable was no good. Gonna try an adapter instead and see if it works. Pretty bummed mine doesn’t have that functionality but I will see if I can get it going! If not I’m still very happy with it as a handheld. I have batocera running on it with a really nice rom set.
Glad I purchased the RG35XX plus today. I was thinking about miyo mini plus but it’s size is more smaller, and also about wifi support that lead me to purchase the latest model. Thanks for this review (I watched a-lot from other CZcams videos too) before casting my order. Got it for $59.63 from ali express, free shipping to dubai 🇦🇪
That are harder to come by. 😮💨 Looking at you Miyoo 👀
Hi Taki, what was the small portable monitor you used in this video? Where can I buy one
If this had analog sticks I'd buy it. It kinda kills the portability if I need to carry around a controller just for that. I'll stick with my R36S simply for that reason. As I'm on the road (the main reason I use these portables), wifi isn't a priority but I do have the dongle set up and working for the very rare times I need it. Finally, HDMI is nice...but again defeats the reason for a portable in the first place. At the end of the day, it'll boil down to what you are actually buying these handhelds for in the first place. If you're mainly a home based retro player, these really aren't ideal for that and there are MUCH better options of course. If you travel and or want something to play with during your lunch hour these are optimal, and for me the R36S is the best for it, for now. Good review, well laid out and very well explained.
They have a horizontal version in the rg35xx h
Right after you said "and here I have the quit option" my CZcams app crashed😂😂
I bought myself an RG35xx a month ago. Now this comes out? Damn. So I need to upgrade, because my biggest issue with it is I cannot use RetroAchievements, nor my favorite SN30 Pro controller with it, without a dongle.
I’ve been trying to find out everywhere if Garlic was worth it. I had no idea how new the Plus was when I ordered one, it was recommended to me by a friend, but I’m loving it so far. My only issue is that stock os runs PlayStation games so much better than retroarch right now, which isn’t a problem but I cant or don’t know how to make extra memory cards
Thanks for bringing up the charging issue. It's definitely annoying having to work around a USB-A to USB-C charger to charge these handhelds. I don't even care about fast charging, just make them function with modern USB-C chargers. I'll pay the extra 10 cents in production costs...
This is a pretty good device mine actually came dual booted with garlic os, it has lots of games, PS1 games run very well and there are some great ones. The only thing you might want to do, it is missing some Mario games, if you grab those yourself you will have semi complete game libraries. It's worth the price just for the roms really
Hello @TakiUdon, since it has OTG support, does it support the external device through the OTG? Quickest example is Audio Dongle (External soundcard) that produce sound. Took some device sample such as SHIO Truthear, Creative Sound Blaster, Jcally dongle dac etc. I also use my RG35XX for listening to music but the sound produce is not strong enough or not supporting my IEM (in-ear monitor earphone) driver.
Can you connect more than one Bluetooth controller?
Would be nice to use as a little home console for 2 player SNES and PS1 games over HDMI. Kind of an Anbernic Switch.
The added performance that would allow the emulation of PS1, some PS2, DC, and N64 but lacks the analog stick to play them is a deal breaker for me. It's for 3 tier like you said but doesn't add the necessary controls, total bummer.
The face I made when I saw TOTK in the opening shot of this video 😳😅
Real talk though, I've never owned a retro handheld and heavily considered the Plus, but I found an awesome deal on the original RG35XX for £40 including shipping. That price was too good to turn down.
Don't worry, the RG35XX earned it's recognition. It's a great system!
I a Rg35XX, Miyoo Mini Plus a Miyoo mini v4 (the last one) and i even had a mini v2 v3.
Out of all of them the V2 V3 and the Rg35XX are my favorites.
Did they made improvements on the D-pad? My original 35xx always has accidental "ups" when i press to the right. I switched to the Miyoo Mini plus for that reason because it made me mad...
What was that mini monitor you were using when doing hdmi? It looked very nice!
Hi, thanks for the video! :D Can I ask you a question? Do you know why does Garlic 2.0 for RG35XX PLUS have to be installed and used together with the SD with the stock system? (I read the procedure on Black's Patreon page on the Garlic 2.0 post) Can't just the SD (or single or double) be used only with Garlic as happens with Garlic 1.x.x in the original RG35XX? Because we know that the proprietary SD card is of poor quality and should be changed immediately. But if you need the proprietary SD to boot the SD with Garlic (as I understand), if that then gets corrupted, you won't be able to use the one with Garlic either..
The stock SD has a file that will tell the system to look for the operating system on the second SD card (the bootloader). That's why you need to have both. If you are worried about the stock SD being bad, you could clone it with something like Rufus or clonezilla and then flash that image to a better card.
@@TakiUdon Thanks a lot for the answer! :D Yes, I understood the process, but so do you think it will remain like this, that is, with the use of the stock SD too? Do you think that in the future it will not be possible to use only the SD with Garlic as with the original RG35xx? Because if that were the case, yes, in that case it is better to clone the stock SD. But I was actually wondering why this time the boot process is like this compared to the original RG35XX which only needs the SD card with Garlic :)
I'm curious as well, does it have something to do with how garlic 2.0 works compared to 1.0. These are questions we should probably ask developer, but now you have peaked my interest as well! lolol
The fact that the dev of Garlic OS rushed to launch it for Plus on launch instead of launching for the OG stings even more knowing it doesn't even bring any benefit to the new device in comparison to the stock firmware. I know the dev is doing it for free in their free time but idk, feels like they mixed up priorities
awesome!
well...psx driver tutorial was really hell on d-pad, but possible. :D i looked her, cause stock OS cannot show Scummvm icon :( but whew i will wait, thx for the video.
Love the RG35XX Plus for the Hardware / Size. But I love the Miyoo Mini Plus for Onion OS. The Miyoo Mini Plus ist just a little bit too short on the bottom. Can't decide if I should switch from my Miyoo Mini Plus to the RG35XX Plus 🥲
ALMOST perfect. I would really like this, but with joysticks directly on the device.
I'm so hyped for this!!!! Can't wait to cozy up in blankets and play Stardew Valley on it :D
Just bought 3 fully loaded onion os miyoo mini plus models (one for me, and one for each of my brothers for Christmas) and these drop before all of them are delivered…🤣 Guess I’m gonna be getting at least one of these since I mainly wanted something to run gba rpgs, ff7,8,9, +legends of dragoon. But if I can get n64, I neeeed the og paper Mario…
I’m so glad I didn’t get the xu10,. Goes to show that just because it’s more expensive does not mean it’s better. Plus it’s not even anbernics product, they just list it for an affiliate
Hopefully they do fix the bluetooth audio issues. Being on commute and connecting my Airpods to this device was something I was looking to be able to do.
It has a headphone jack. If your commute is anything like mine used to be, rocking Airpods is going to bring some undue attention. If you buy one of these then get some dollar store wired dirty buds and keep the Airpods safely hidden away in a pocket for use at work. Another benefit of the wired buds is no sound latency.
@@mattdavis9601 I do have wired headphones but have found myself using Airpods all the time which was why I was wanting to use them with these. I also have the pros that have the noise canceling that are much better than I thought they'd be. But that is true about the sound latency and my wired headphones do sound better anyway haha
It's so, so close to what I want. I want it to fix the aspect ratio when doing hdmi out. I'd like the thumbsticks of the 353vs. And near/complete n64 and dreamcast performance. Basically, i want a 353v+.
Honestly if garlic eventually gets everything running and fixes that hdmi out aspect ratio issue, I'll upgrade.
Cant wait to get mine in the mail. Any update to the problem connecting bluetooth headphones to your device? Thanks.
Very good, although is kind of a shame that does not have a joystick, I mean Dreamcast, and N64 original controllers came with the joystick for a reason, but I guess for the price still pretty good, and as you mentioned you can connect a bluetooth controller to it 👌🏻
PS1 didn't originally, that came quite a few years into its life after the N64 was out.
PS1 original controller didnt come with joysticks
@@13Hyrule and out of all the PS1 library, there is only one game that actually needs a dualshock in order to play. which is Ape Escape
You can use, for those Stick games, an 8bitdo controller.
I'm wondering if we'll see a comeback of Xperia Play-style capacitive analogue sticks on these kinds of devices, since they don't stick out and make it harder to pocket. PSP Go-style analogue sticks that are flush with the face of the device might work well for the form factor too!
I bought the new RG35XX+, but let me give a few personal opinions whether or not it's worth it.
I'd recommend anyone that's using original RG35XX to install batocera on it (maybe on a secondary SD card) as the original RG35XX does run PSP, N64, and other titles using batocera. Granted it's not the best experience, and without multiplayer, but if you wanted to play N64, PSP, and other emulators that weren't offered on original RG35XX or GarlicOS, that would be the cheaper alternative.
... or they could go with Koriki OS which is based on it and actually improves on it in many aspects. It also unlocks the hidden GPU, which both GarlicOS and the stock OS can't use and therefore unlock additional power.
I like the Garlic OS layout
Koriki ...not so much ....
Maybe the next update...Garlic OS will unlock 'em GPU power
dang, this looks like a great device. probably was a mistake to buy a miyoo mini plus a few months ago
The portability for miyoo plus is awesome though. So easy and discreet to play waiting for food to come to your table.
just got myself one cost me £81 with express shipping hopefully it comes befor christmas :D
I would like to see an updated video, but showcasing Koriki
8:58 Wait how did you do the sharing of Nintendo Switch games to this? I don't think you can use moonlight on the Switch itself for hosting or such....
The Miyoo Mini Plus with Onion Custom OS is the king in this segment hands down! Hard to beat overall!
Yep
Now I need same device with one added stick.. 😅
Hey man great video.
I was wondering what the best handheld for nds games that’s not crazy expensive and where to get it.
Thanks
In my opinion, you should get a DSi or DSi XL. Nothing will give you a comparable experience.
I can understand the reason for not having a PD charging.. Its a licensed product that would run up costs of production as well the end user..
You forgot to mention that those higher end emulators like DC and PSP run by default with frameskip enabled, which is a big thing if you show framerates on screen.
I disabled auto FS
Is this worth buying over the R36s? Price vs performance
Cool portable would have one stick
Looking forward to next year when we start seeing more PS2 capable devices. Though the limited space for buttons makes me wonder: has anyone ever tried putting the analog sticks on the back? As I hold my switch lite in a reverse fashion my middle fingers sit right on the analog, which could in theory sort of work.
How would that work though? Like would you move them in reverse?!
If anything why not move more buttons to the back?
But just one in the middle would be better
I used to own quite a few LG phones back in the day. One of their gimmicks, and one I really liked, was putting the power, fingerprint reader, and volume controls on the back. Looking at this RG35XX Plus; had they decided on putting Start, Select, and Menu on the back in a configuration like an old LG phone, that would've freed up enough space on the front for one, or possibly even two sticks, without increasing the device's footprint. Assuming that this unit has enough room inside to repack everything around the addition of a stick(s).
The Xperia Play phone had a glorified touchpad instead of a stick. For packaging reasons; something like that might be worth implementing, either on the front or back of this, instead of sticks. Deck users love their touchpads on the front and the Vita had that touchpad on the rear. I skipped the Vita for reasons that made sense at the time. Did anyone or any game ever use it for analog inputs, ever?
Very Good
Honestly, glad i didn't pulled the trigger on this. Just get the RG353VS.
How about rg556? Is that good?
What are the chances of this FW being backported to the 35XX? Would love to have to simple interface when other people play and RA for me all in one OS.
I'm torn because once I tried the miyoo mini plus buttons something awakened in me, and all of a sudden my retroid pocket 3 plus buttons just aren't good enough anymore. Thing is a lot of other things like the performance or landscape mode and android os of a retroid 3 fit me better.. miyoo also wins on "just pick up and play" front, so much configuration on the retroid. I'm not really sure if there is a landscape device with miyoo plus buttons though...