Jane Doe - In some sense, weakness is a VIRTUE. If he were weak enough when he was just about to HURT an animal, then the animal would live. In some sense, STRENGTH is in the service of cruelty and death. And, WEAKNESS is in service of compassion and life. Kindness should be handled as a UNIVERSAL phenomenon, not a speciesist one. Kindness to people means nothing if on the other hand you kill animals - just because you feel like it... Apostle Paul in the Corinthians says something very meaningful: "I delight, then in WEAKNESS... for when I am weak, then I am STRONG." *Since what I said above is widely misunderstood I elaborated on it more in my comments below.*
It has a lot of to do with how you feel, think and act if you are a trully strong person only really stupid people will not understand. Strength is something psychological beyond physical ability.
@@magma3525 strength and cruelty are not derived from each other .. Weakness And kindness are not derived from each other.. The opposite I think.. Really strong people don't hurt others.. Weak people can be the cruelest when in position of power
AL Capone said it, and i quote “Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I am kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me.” -Al Capone
When beliving in Jesus Christ he will create a new heart in you and you will be a new being, wantint to do good and to be nice to others, because you then realize that we all are images of God just like you.
"If you have been brutally broken but still have the courage to be gentle to other living beings then you're a badass with the heart of an angel" - Keanu Reeves
The gist of that is what I've always been telling myself. I've gone through an seriously extraordinary suffering, but I've always told myself that I won't let it turn me into a person that inflicts suffering on other people or someone that doesn't try to help alleviate other peoples suffering.
Agreed 100% even if you are wronged by someone it makes no sense to hurt this person. Just move on they will learn one way or another and it shouldnt be from you.
@@KaifamGamingyou think being kind is the same as being people pleaser? I personally think being kind requires gaining strength to draw the line between both concepts
It’s not that everyone wants to make your life hell, it’s that everyone’s so wrapped up in their own pathetic worlds that the wants and needs of others are usually just totally ignored.
The best compliments I get are when strangers tell me how polite, helpful, and considerate my kids are. I may have failed at some things, but at least I’m putting some decent humans on the planet!
Same here, I have not always made the best choices in life, but kindness, consideration for others and manners cost nothing, and I'm lucky that my family all have these qualities and I'm so proud that my sons are too, that and a sense of humour. None of us takes ourselves too seriously 😃
Brother Biz, another tactic is to call people out on their poor treatment of others, its tricky because its never helpful to fight fire with fire and treat shitty people badly, i have found that causes a downward spiral.
These guys really nailed it. If you are kind you feel good. If you are bad you feel bad. That is intrinsic. It’s for a reason. To help the village survive. Bad emotions will eventually make a person sick, and alienate them from everyone. And enough people helping each other will only produce more good things. Good podcast man.
Kindness is contagious. Sadly so is rudeness. When someone doesn’t say hi back or speaks rudely it is so important to try to continue to stay positive and be kind to people
Im glad you said this people used to call me nice and say I was sweet all the time and I used to be the person who smiled at everyone and spoke to everyone in passing. These past few years so many people look down on me and react negatively when I do it that I stopped as to not be embarrassed by it anymore and people stopped calling me kind.
@@stargazingloner4449 Fuck those people man, keep being a good human, they are so rare in this day and age!!! Much love for you for being a good dude (You have a heart of gold. Don't let them take it from you.- Demon Souls)
I think niceness comes from having a thick skin. If you know you can withstand the negative, you can afford to be positive. Negative people often don't think they can get by on their own merit, so they resort to nefarious covert strategies to get ahead.
This guy gets it. It takes a certain amount of boldness to be kind, because you might not receive it in return and that's going to be more painful than just getting shit when you _didn't_ put yourself out there. You have to be a bit devil-may-care to be openly positive.
@Billy Bob Thats where a distinction needs to be made between just being nice and being nice for your own advantage. When it comes to the whole "nice guys" thing, the only ones who actually get upset about women turning their niceness down are the ones who were being nice and expecting to receive something in return. Being nice for the sake of being nice is a good thing but being nice for your own advantage is just as bad as it is good
for example if I give money to charity because I want to help homeless people, thats a very kind thing for me to do. But if I give money to a charity so that I can improve my own image and look like a good person, sure it might help the homeless people in the exact same way but thats no longer being kind, youre doing it for yourself
I was taking a walk the other day, and there was this little 3 years old kid walking beside his mother, he gave me a thumbs up while looking at me dead in the eyes showing no emotion, I thought it was so funny, it made my day a little better and still makes me laugh when I remember it.
This stems from good parenting and I truly believe it’s a learned behavior. If the child sees the parent being kind to others it becomes second nature and deep rooted.
One of the reasons I'm so kind is because of the pain my family has caused me. My mom is a kind person for sure, but I also learned it through my friends and by myself, I really dont want others to feel like I did
It really is because I had issues and stuff but my kind heart prevailed because I would remember my loving family and the stuff my parents taught me about hurting feelings and emotions and it is OKAY to be sad for each other and want each other to be happy. America made it into a weakness. It's not.
Don't let the bad apples spoil your inner beauty, my friends. It's not worth it to adopt their ways because it doesn't make life easier. To the contrary, it's far more miserable to be like them. Persevere.
Speaking of shit apples, which you were.. "When a shit apple falls from a tree and grows up in a field of shit, it doesn't have a choice. ... She's gonna be a shit apple tree just like her father ... - Jim Lahey
There's a saying "talk softly, but walk with a big stick". If you're a kind person, you absolutely need to be dangerous in order to dissuade the masses from taking advantage of you. You also must be mentally able to shut it off at any moment when challenged by someone who perceives your kindness as a weakness. I've also noticed that... Mean, arrogant, and rude people are often perceived by the masses as being of higher status. In the USA, perception of status is what's valued most, and people learn to appear to be high status (rather than putting in the work to actually be high status). I've noticed that most successful people are usually nicer, friendlier, more pleasant to be around, and more helpful. Unfortunately, truly successful people in life are only about 5% of the population. So that means you are constantly surrounded by the self-entitled, arrogance of the failing masses. All in all, being kind is something very difficult to maintain in the USA. You'll take a lot of damage and disrespect in the process, and it's hard to keep from internalizing that and becoming heart-hardened by injuries inflicted on you by mean spirited people looking to build their confidence by trying to diminish yours.
I honestly think it's the opposite. It's usually the ones struggling in life that are more humble and understanding, the successful ones are usually extremely full of themselves and aren't very kind or respectful. But obviously every group has it's good and bad
@@forman208 it drastically depends on if they worked for it or not, dwayne johnson or joe Rogan seem pretty nice because they worked for their success. But someone that inherited money or got lucky wont have that humbling experience of working hard
True kindness is when you give or do something for someone, and don't expect anything back. True kindness is purely doing for someone else with no expectations of personal gain of any kind on your part.
Im 22 and work in a corprate office. I say hello to everyone as i try to friendly and spark conversation on passing by in the hallways. There is always at least one or two people with that blank face as if they just seen a ghost!! I agree kindess is what we need. You are awesome Joe love the podcast!!!
thats like 32k a year not bad at all for a 22 year old i see college grads working at target and lowes for $10/hr they got a useless degree and now aint worth shit
The Dark Knight Ape Man do not believe the God Lie Evolution forged me in the crucible of savagery I am a Nice Savage ...Nice to the nice ...Vicious to the Evil P.S. Nice avatar you have Jordan Peterson works 10 minutes from where I live in Toronto If I run into him on the street, Do you want me to give him a kiss for you ?
Good manners are a useful tool. I It's true they are not to be conflated with kindness, but you can't be truly kind without them (almost everyone has some kind moments). Note good manners and good etiquette aren't exactly the same thing. "The Devil is a Gentleman."
As far as shame and guilt goes, I've found that thinking about the past is only helpful if we're learning a lesson. If we're not, we need to move on and just do better.
I've found that this works in the opposite direction. If you find yourself constantly thinking about the past, it means that there is a lesson to be learned from that memory that you haven't yet integrated.
I think the best thing joe rogan has ever said for me is “immediately I was... angry... then part of me said ‘that poor bastard,’ and I went with that poor bastard.” He took a negative immediate response and provided a counter thought and went with the more positive thought for Joe. For the more negative among us im positive we can learn from that prime example honestly.
yeah that sat with me. i follow this method every day and it ends up so much better, for all parties. continue to spread the love, especially for those who need it.
“If we could read the secret history of our enemies, we should find in each man's life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility.” ― Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Letting go of anger and putting yourself in their perspective. I usually let these people act out their anger and have no reaction. It's weird some people just don't think then feel bad after I let them act out the anger. I think about my own self image. I don't want to be an angry unintelligent person that acts without thinking. I should feel bad for them because they let anger and emotion control life. If you can overcome your own self and let go of Ego. We can all find a better way. Judgement separates realization that we are all the same as human beings brings togetherness.
Like morgan freeman said "You wanna know how to change the world, one act of random kindness" being kind and people acknowledging it is such a nice feeling and can make your day better
Seriously I hate how true that is. Kind people get treated like crap and often abused in the work place. You have different rules when you’re a nice person than your rude ass coworkers
I've gotten so much cruelty, nastiness, and manipulation for simply being kind and empathetic to others. It's a tough life to be kind. There are days where I just want to throw in the towel and snap at people, but it's not a choice for me. I simply cannot treat people cruelly. I just can't do it.
Same here, I feel the negativity growing inside me.. it’s a fine balance between being kind to people and standing up for yourself when you are being taken advantage of.. Stay well bro 🙏🏼
They really should teach basic psychology in grade school. I'm talking about kindness and adaptive ways to deal with difficulties, motivation techniques, and so on.
I recently got rid of some bad depression with Stoicism. It’s a great system for looking at life and learning what is worth worrying about and what isn’t. It’s great for motivation and self-discipline, too. Everyone should be taught Stoicism.
I work as a cashier. Many families with children come through my lane. I greatly appreciate when the kids have good manners. And I always applaud the parents for it.
The reason why I love Joe Rogan as a person is because of how real he is and he also seems to be always striving for good. Joe isn’t even part of any religion, yet he is such a good hearted person. I have tremendous amount of respect for Joe.
Yea Ok because people say that religion makes you a “better” person. Just because they are considered God’s people, they think that they have more morals than non religious people.
Being kind is a choice. One of my favorite quotes that is something I honestly try to live by is 'What good I may do, let me do it now, for I may not pass this way again'. I also think it's important to know that when you are being kind, you shouldn't expect anything in return, even acknowledgment of your kind act. Being kind to someone else is actually a gift for yourself and it feeds your character.
I like how Joe really observed how terrible he felt, was insanely honest with himself and us, and was able to articulate it. Unlike people to go to therapy and know $20 words but haven’t felt or lived their shiny new vocabulary . You can tell Joe understands a lot more than he can over-articulate
My parents never really pushed me to say thank you, holding doors for strangers, to help out & what not but I am so glad I picked it up on my own, you never know what someone’s going through
What the guest was saying about teaching your kids manners is SO important!!! Holding doors, greeting people, helping with bags, little things that are crucial for, just, maintaining civility. Simply being NICE, in general, is absolutely central to my own personal well being.
My grandmother would always say that kindness is taught and learned at home. I saw my grandmother and parents be kind and lend a helping hand without any expectations..you never know what the other person is going thru.
The world can be a sick place when you are unconditionally kind. It will make you unkind and hate yourself. Be kind to the right people who deserve it.
I say be kind, don’t be a pushover. That’s it, if you can tell the difference I believe you are solid. I am kind to as many people as possible without forgetting I should never expect anything in return.
Just be good to people in general, even if you don't know them. You dont have to let them take advantage of you. If you try to judge people in everyday interactions to see if they deserve your kindness, i feel like that can make you not only overly judgemental, but insecure and egotistical.
Always be polite and well mannered. But never forget this world is every man for themselves. If you let them, even the nicest person in the world will take advantage of you. Look after yourself first.
Speechless Lasmr - lol false my man. What is the greatest rap album all time in your opinion my good sir? Illmatic is definitely top 5 all time if not #1. It’s hard to say that is an opinion statement my dude. If you really know your hip hop.
Daniel Lawler Ik it’s not true because I don’t try to take advantage of others. U guys just clearly haven’t met a genuinely nice person in ur entire lifes
I learned how to be kind through hippies! i know they get a lot of hate for god know what reason..but they are legit the nicest, selfless people ive hung out with, they all helped each other out and well thats where i learned the behaviour and i gotta admit it does feel really good to be of service to others!
2:24 when you talk about the guy in the hallway i find funny. I'm from the UK. When I visited America for vacation, whenever i was in a elevator or in a close quarters environment, everyone says 'Hello' and smiles. Here in the UK, if you do that, you're a really weird person. Really remarkable how cultures differ on the most minor scale.
AndroidDev I actually live in the Cotswolds. I’m surprised you say that, I find if you’re not really well known in the local community people just judge you and don’t want to talk to you ever.
I used to work in movie theatre. An elderly was next in line and i took his order. After he paid me, he said I provided good service and he appreciated that. He then saif he would but he didn't have cash, so he asked me if he can shake my hand (2 years before the pandemic). I had never received such kindness from a stranger ever in my life. I was so glad to shake this guy's hand because to me it was sign of mutual respect. I was already smiling, but for the rest my shift, i was in total bliss haha. Nothing could ruin my day!
I was a modern dude seeking to “be free” and “go with the flow”, with no clear moral code. I did my best to be kind to others, but looking back, I was lost, I hurt others, and I just ended up getting hurt. The only thing that helped me was to get back to my roots. I am Jewish and became very observant. I am now happy and am living a life I am proud of. So, I like to think that I’m an example of how religion can be good. I resisted it for so long. It’s good to be home. If you feel the urge to explore a religion (preferably that of your ancestors), I encourage you to do it and reap the happiness and peace of mind that will come. Good luck and blessings, everyone.
Waterman i always wondered why some people are so submerged in religion and I started to notice it was because it gives clarity or peace to them and your example is one of that
One of my job’s core values is to “be a good person”. It’s one of my favorites because I truly believe you should always try and be a genuinely kind person.
I was raised to be polite and have manners and all that. We would wave and say hello to strangers..then I moved to more populated areas and cities...lol they would look at me like I was crazy for saying hello to a stranger.
I taught myself to be kind, instead of nice. Being polite is impressive and refreshing. Treating people like people is just as affective as feeding them grapes. It’s about respect. I used to be rude or manipulative to people and I chose to be that way because I was bullied but I’m so glad I decided that I have control over my life.
My high school choir teacher taught all of his students how to be decent humans. He has an energy that is just contagious and if you weren’t a nice person you definitely turned into a nice person in his classroom.
I feel kindness is something the majority of our society considers weak and pointless, it’s about crushing and defeating your fellow man down instead of helping one another out. People I feel are either getting more robotic in that they don’t feel or care about anyone or anything or they feel bitterness and hate moreover anything even resembling compassion and joy...really bums me out
It feels good when you acknowledge and validate someone's existence. Especially when it comes back. Like tuning forks we can amplify loving vibrations. We are pure Love. Some just don't know it.
You are spot on, Joe!!! Thank you so much for speaking about this. You're amazing. When I was a freshman in college, I was walking to class and in passing, said hi to a guy on the school soccer team and he laughed in my face. I'll never forget how awful that made me feel; especially since at the time I was just a shy small town girl. These days (and over a decade later) the big city Jowita would've probably audibly disclaimed, "well aren't you just a peach?!", as I sashayed by him.. --Point being..-- that a-hole from college had TWO choices 1. Be a total douche or 2. Be kind. Ever since that moment I told myself I'd never be like him because I'd never want anyone to feel the way I did. ✌️❤️
You are pretty. When you said hi to him, he probably was going through a lot of shit, fucked up a bunch of things, had a real low self esteem. He probably did not believe he was worthy of being said hi to by a real pretty girl, he thought you were fucking with him. I know this because I've done it and I've seen everyone else doing it at some point.
One of the great joys of my life is teaching special education. My class of 7th graders was the kindest group of people would ever meet. I was so proud of them. The most fulfilling thing I could ever do is teach kids how to be kind.
I'm an American living in SE Asia. Ppl don't say hello here, ppl don't open doors for each other, ppl will enter the elevator as you're exiting. it used to piss me off but now I have realized it's just cultural.
Some of the most competitive and best athletes in the world have been the nicest people off the field/court/track. There’s nothing wrong with being kind, it’s more of a strength than a weakness. Even something as small as holding the door open is enough to make someone’s day better
I've been crushed from being too kind to the point where I could no longer look someone in the eyes.. It's a hard world man.. But you gotta learn from those mistake and understand.. who is worthy of your kindness and with who you need to be cold as a rock ..
100% agree with Joe. When I moved to UK from an old soviet country you could really see the difference in people and how they behave. Life is so much nicer and easier if people are kind and polite and smile. It really dosnt take much to make a big big difference. I used to think being kind is a weakness. Now when I see rude/arrogant people I just feel sorry for them...
I think that sometimes when strangers are nice we respond coldly because you don't trust why they are being nice. We grow up learning about manipulators untrustworthy people that turn on you tell others your secrets make fun of you . So theres this feeling of wanting to protect yourself and it makes you cynical.
I know this is an old podcast, but I am just seeing it . It is so important to be kind , I always tell my kids when they are leaving the house (when they were living at home ) “ Make it a great day, make good choices, be kind, I love you “ and when going to anyone else’s house “mind your manners” . 😊 I believe it worked and stuck with them . Have a beautiful productive day!!
That last part about shame is so relatable. I used to go from job to job and be without for two weeks to two months but was consistent. When I'd live wife's family members they would not know my routine and drive so they would do nothing but stress me, lecture me like I've never wanted or had a job in my life. The shame and guilt they would think is helping me did as much for me as yelling at the sun to come up at best and stopped bme from getting jobs at its worst.
Kindness can change people greatly. And when you learn how to be kind to people you learn how to be kind to urself. Be kind for no reason please it’s so important I’m glad he said this. Forgive the pain others cause you and instead give them a reason to heal themselves, it’s not your job to do justice.
True, The state of society is very sad right now it's unbelievable how hateful a lot of people are and with 0 empathy of how they impact other people. I do my best to be polite and respectful but I've had times when I've held the door for a lady or picked up something they dropped and they just stare at me with a blank or confused look and don't say anything..
Yes. This lady at a store knocked over a large stack of items. I helped her pick them up, and I was doing so, she walks away from all of the mess she had made. Makes a person not want to help anyone ever again.
“It’s better to be the one who smiled than the one who didn’t smile back.”
Love this
Here here🍻
Thats what makes you the snack ;)
Love this quote
matt fraser me too!!! :)
Joe is spot on; people think you are weak when you are kind to them.
Jane Doe - In some sense, weakness is a VIRTUE. If he were weak enough when he was just about to HURT an animal, then the animal would live. In some sense, STRENGTH is in the service of cruelty and death. And, WEAKNESS is in service of compassion and life. Kindness should be handled as a UNIVERSAL phenomenon, not a speciesist one. Kindness to people means nothing if on the other hand you kill animals - just because you feel like it... Apostle Paul in the Corinthians says something very meaningful: "I delight, then in WEAKNESS... for when I am weak, then I am STRONG." *Since what I said above is widely misunderstood I elaborated on it more in my comments below.*
@@magma3525 you gotta point #dassafact 💯💯👌
I’ve never thought that about anybody who treated me with kindness.
It has a lot of to do with how you feel, think and act if you are a trully strong person only really stupid people will not understand. Strength is something psychological beyond physical ability.
@@magma3525 strength and cruelty are not derived from each other .. Weakness And kindness are not derived from each other.. The opposite I think.. Really strong people don't hurt others.. Weak people can be the cruelest when in position of power
AL Capone said it, and i quote “Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I am kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me.”
-Al Capone
Wow
Exactly people mistaken you for being weak when you kind to them
Epic
Love it 🤜🏽💥🤛🏽
When beliving in Jesus Christ he will create a new heart in you and you will be a new being, wantint to do good and to be nice to others, because you then realize that we all are images of God just like you.
"If you have been brutally broken but still have the courage to be gentle to other living beings then you're a badass with the heart of an angel" - Keanu Reeves
The gist of that is what I've always been telling myself. I've gone through an seriously extraordinary suffering, but I've always told myself that I won't let it turn me into a person that inflicts suffering on other people or someone that doesn't try to help alleviate other peoples suffering.
wow nice one
@@Anarkitty420it’s quite hard.
Agreed 100% even if you are wronged by someone it makes no sense to hurt this person. Just move on they will learn one way or another and it shouldnt be from you.
Keanu is the man, a true role model!✌️😎🙏
"Be kind to all creatures; for this is the true religion. " - Buddha
justice must be served.
Let's all convert to Buddhism
Buddhism ain't a religion, but a philosophy
@@ihavetubes As in you getting teabagged by your boss
Is that why there are comitting ethnic genocides against muslims in burma?
Those who outgrew their sufferings ended up the kindest
Buddha is a good example for that I believe
@@authorbhattacharjee4957 BUDDAS A REAL ONE BROSKI
im always trying to be very kind but now my sister calls me a people pleaser 💀
@@KaifamGamingyou think being kind is the same as being people pleaser? I personally think being kind requires gaining strength to draw the line between both concepts
it's so easy to laugh it's so easy to hate, it takes guts to be gentle and kind.
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i know it’s over
Goated quote from Morrissey
The whole rant about the fakeness in the work place is so relatable and the fact everyone just wants to make your life hell is so true
It's easier to push someone down than it is to pull yourself up mentality
It’s not that everyone wants to make your life hell, it’s that everyone’s so wrapped up in their own pathetic worlds that the wants and needs of others are usually just totally ignored.
@@Jack574. greatly explained
In Australia we’ve got an old saying’ out bush…
Fuck em’ in the neck and tell ‘em’ to go piss up a rope”
Waaaaah! Life isn't fair!
The best compliments I get are when strangers tell me how polite, helpful, and considerate my kids are. I may have failed at some things, but at least I’m putting some decent humans on the planet!
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Exactly! I just said strangers are better then a counselor! I have conversations, with the coolest people, it makes me feel good
Same here, I have not always made the best choices in life, but kindness, consideration for others and manners cost nothing, and I'm lucky that my family all have these qualities and I'm so proud that my sons are too, that and a sense of humour. None of us takes ourselves too seriously 😃
Thanks for being a great parent!
treat others as you wish to be treated, pretty simple.
What if you're a masochist?
then i will avoid you.
well i do treat people the way i want to be treated but im not bein treated the way i want to be treated, that's where the anger starts.
Brother Biz, then you know who to avoid/ignore.
Brother Biz, another tactic is to call people out on their poor treatment of others, its tricky because its never helpful to fight fire with fire and treat shitty people badly, i have found that causes a downward spiral.
These guys really nailed it. If you are kind you feel good. If you are bad you feel bad. That is intrinsic. It’s for a reason. To help the village survive. Bad emotions will eventually make a person sick, and alienate them from everyone. And enough people helping each other will only produce more good things. Good podcast man.
I really had to confront stuff about myself to realize that and playing the "tough guy" gets really old quick especially when you're alone.
Not true,
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Yeah it takes more energy to think negative than it takes to think positive.
We love you BRO, preach it man! Kindness Bible.
“I don’t want to live in a world where kindness is perceived as a weakness” -Keanu Reeves
Kindness is contagious. Sadly so is rudeness. When someone doesn’t say hi back or speaks rudely it is so important to try to continue to stay positive and be kind to people
Im glad you said this people used to call me nice and say I was sweet all the time and I used to be the person who smiled at everyone and spoke to everyone in passing.
These past few years so many people look down on me and react negatively when I do it that I stopped as to not be embarrassed by it anymore and people stopped calling me kind.
@@stargazingloner4449 Fuck those people man, keep being a good human, they are so rare in this day and age!!! Much love for you for being a good dude (You have a heart of gold. Don't let them take it from you.- Demon Souls)
BIG TRUE Brother
Agree...even if people are rude dont let it erode your kindness. Rogan is spot on!
100%
You gotta wish them well and be on your way.
I think niceness comes from having a thick skin. If you know you can withstand the negative, you can afford to be positive. Negative people often don't think they can get by on their own merit, so they resort to nefarious covert strategies to get ahead.
This guy gets it. It takes a certain amount of boldness to be kind, because you might not receive it in return and that's going to be more painful than just getting shit when you _didn't_ put yourself out there. You have to be a bit devil-may-care to be openly positive.
Very true
@Billy Bob Thats where a distinction needs to be made between just being nice and being nice for your own advantage. When it comes to the whole "nice guys" thing, the only ones who actually get upset about women turning their niceness down are the ones who were being nice and expecting to receive something in return. Being nice for the sake of being nice is a good thing but being nice for your own advantage is just as bad as it is good
for example if I give money to charity because I want to help homeless people, thats a very kind thing for me to do. But if I give money to a charity so that I can improve my own image and look like a good person, sure it might help the homeless people in the exact same way but thats no longer being kind, youre doing it for yourself
I feel the same way. It does take a certain strength to be kind and sincere.
I was taking a walk the other day, and there was this little 3 years old kid walking beside his mother, he gave me a thumbs up while looking at me dead in the eyes showing no emotion, I thought it was so funny, it made my day a little better and still makes me laugh when I remember it.
8 was walking and a woman snorted laughing and I keep thinking about that as well lol
This stems from good parenting and I truly believe it’s a learned behavior. If the child sees the parent being kind to others it becomes second nature and deep rooted.
One of the reasons I'm so kind is because of the pain my family has caused me. My mom is a kind person for sure, but I also learned it through my friends and by myself, I really dont want others to feel like I did
It really is because I had issues and stuff but my kind heart prevailed because I would remember my loving family and the stuff my parents taught me about hurting feelings and emotions and it is OKAY to be sad for each other and want each other to be happy. America made it into a weakness. It's not.
@@anabolicchicken4115 FACTS
Don't let the bad apples spoil your inner beauty, my friends. It's not worth it to adopt their ways because it doesn't make life easier. To the contrary, it's far more miserable to be like them. Persevere.
Well said
True easier said than done but true.
Well put.
Speaking of shit apples, which you were..
"When a shit apple falls from a tree and grows up in a field of shit, it doesn't have a choice. ... She's gonna be a shit apple tree just like her father ...
- Jim Lahey
TheGuy sounds like a wise veteran.
There's a saying "talk softly, but walk with a big stick". If you're a kind person, you absolutely need to be dangerous in order to dissuade the masses from taking advantage of you. You also must be mentally able to shut it off at any moment when challenged by someone who perceives your kindness as a weakness. I've also noticed that...
Mean, arrogant, and rude people are often perceived by the masses as being of higher status. In the USA, perception of status is what's valued most, and people learn to appear to be high status (rather than putting in the work to actually be high status). I've noticed that most successful people are usually nicer, friendlier, more pleasant to be around, and more helpful. Unfortunately, truly successful people in life are only about 5% of the population. So that means you are constantly surrounded by the self-entitled, arrogance of the failing masses.
All in all, being kind is something very difficult to maintain in the USA. You'll take a lot of damage and disrespect in the process, and it's hard to keep from internalizing that and becoming heart-hardened by injuries inflicted on you by mean spirited people looking to build their confidence by trying to diminish yours.
"People looking to build there confidence by diminishing yours"
So very true. Well said!
Teddy Roosevelt my man!
Good observations. Thanks
I honestly think it's the opposite. It's usually the ones struggling in life that are more humble and understanding, the successful ones are usually extremely full of themselves and aren't very kind or respectful. But obviously every group has it's good and bad
@@forman208 it drastically depends on if they worked for it or not, dwayne johnson or joe Rogan seem pretty nice because they worked for their success.
But someone that inherited money or got lucky wont have that humbling experience of working hard
There is in Japan, their schools teach this for years before they teach anything academic.
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@@chuysandoval2711 show kindness to all people, you do not know what battles one faces in their journey called “life” ❤️
@@adriantoogenuine you reap what you sow
@@chuysandoval2711 great example, kinda helps what I was saying 😇
True kindness is when you give or do something for someone, and don't expect anything back. True kindness is purely doing for someone else with no expectations of personal gain of any kind on your part.
This also feels the best when u do it as well so I guess u do expect a feeling of good to come with the deed
Why would you be kind to assholes?
Im 22 and work in a corprate office. I say hello to everyone as i try to friendly and spark conversation on passing by in the hallways. There is always at least one or two people with that blank face as if they just seen a ghost!! I agree kindess is what we need. You are awesome Joe love the podcast!!!
Zombies are over-medicated
Be nice to them ...God is watching you
james manning I’m 22 and a fuck up. I barley make 500 a week
thats like 32k a year not bad at all for a 22 year old i see college grads working at target and lowes for $10/hr they got a useless degree and now aint worth shit
The Dark Knight
Ape Man do not believe the God Lie
Evolution forged me in the crucible of savagery
I am a Nice Savage ...Nice to the nice ...Vicious to the Evil
P.S.
Nice avatar you have
Jordan Peterson works 10 minutes from where I live in Toronto
If I run into him on the street, Do you want me to give him a kiss for you ?
If I see you in prison
I will call you Peaches
And sell you for smokes
Having good manners is one of the best qualities a person can have.
No it isn’t. In fact, many of the shittiest people out there know how to use good manners to hide what shitty people they truly are.
joefunk76 You have a really good point. I’ve seen very mean people be polite when they either want something or when some form of authority is around.
@@joefunk76 just bc shitty people utilize manners doesn’t mean it’s not valuable
Why do people keep conflating good manners/politeness with kindness?? Two different things.
Good manners are a useful tool. I It's true they are not to be conflated with kindness, but you can't be truly kind without them (almost everyone has some kind moments). Note good manners and good etiquette aren't exactly the same thing. "The Devil is a Gentleman."
‘It takes guts to be gentle and kind’ - The Smiths
My favorite band right there
_Love is natural and real_
_But not for you my love.. Not tonight my love.._
Kindness that's real is so underrated. Definitely a sign of strength and humility. People often perceive it as weak. They are wrong.
As far as shame and guilt goes, I've found that thinking about the past is only helpful if we're learning a lesson. If we're not, we need to move on and just do better.
I've found that this works in the opposite direction. If you find yourself constantly thinking about the past, it means that there is a lesson to be learned from that memory that you haven't yet integrated.
@@Story_Yeller so fuckin true
lenceagle1 Bingo. Right on.
Tristan “constantly thinking about the past” is never good. Present moment, always good and if not, get over it. Next.💚☮️
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Choose wisely . . .
I think the best thing joe rogan has ever said for me is “immediately I was... angry... then part of me said ‘that poor bastard,’ and I went with that poor bastard.” He took a negative immediate response and provided a counter thought and went with the more positive thought for Joe.
For the more negative among us im positive we can learn from that prime example honestly.
yeah that sat with me. i follow this method every day and it ends up so much better, for all parties. continue to spread the love, especially for those who need it.
“If we could read the secret history of our enemies, we should find in each man's life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility.”
― Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Letting go of anger and putting yourself in their perspective. I usually let these people act out their anger and have no reaction. It's weird some people just don't think then feel bad after I let them act out the anger. I think about my own self image. I don't want to be an angry unintelligent person that acts without thinking. I should feel bad for them because they let anger and emotion control life. If you can overcome your own self and let go of Ego. We can all find a better way. Judgement separates realization that we are all the same as human beings brings togetherness.
My mom always said that to me. " You can always be kind" and choose your fights. Dont fight about petty shit, its a waste of energy
Like morgan freeman said "You wanna know how to change the world, one act of random kindness" being kind and people acknowledging it is such a nice feeling and can make your day better
Seriously I hate how true that is. Kind people get treated like crap and often abused in the work place. You have different rules when you’re a nice person than your rude ass coworkers
Stay strong 💪
True, nice people get taken advantage from. It’s all about perception or fakeness
Everyone you meet is a lesson on how to behave.
Underrated comment!
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Fck you man. Also, well said
Treat everyone as a potential contact. A great man is one that has many friends.
What do you mean by this
I've gotten so much cruelty, nastiness, and manipulation for simply being kind and empathetic to others. It's a tough life to be kind. There are days where I just want to throw in the towel and snap at people, but it's not a choice for me. I simply cannot treat people cruelly. I just can't do it.
Same here, I feel the negativity growing inside me.. it’s a fine balance between being kind to people and standing up for yourself when you are being taken advantage of..
Stay well bro 🙏🏼
This video and comment section has restored my faith in humanity. Keep being awesome guys 🙌🏼
The “hallway guy” said to himself “ is that Joe Rogan saying HI to me in a Hotel”?
Nah, it’s not happening...
Lol!! I thought the same thing.... dude probably wasn't rude, just speechless lmao!
Why would you say "Hi" to a random stranger?
@@johnbell3621 where are you from? just out of curiosity
Gary UK
John Bell 100% a cockney ;)
They really should teach basic psychology in grade school. I'm talking about kindness and adaptive ways to deal with difficulties, motivation techniques, and so on.
We had that in catholic religion
Healthy relationship skills
I plan on staying a good person, and want to make it into the music industry so I can have a positive effect on more people
I recently got rid of some bad depression with Stoicism. It’s a great system for looking at life and learning what is worth worrying about and what isn’t. It’s great for motivation and self-discipline, too. Everyone should be taught Stoicism.
Yeah!!!
I work as a cashier. Many families with children come through my lane. I greatly appreciate when the kids have good manners. And I always applaud the parents for it.
sometimes the kids have manners but the parents dont. thats crazy.
When he said it pisses him off because they think were weak; I felt that
The reason why I love Joe Rogan as a person is because of how real he is and he also seems to be always striving for good. Joe isn’t even part of any religion, yet he is such a good hearted person. I have tremendous amount of respect for Joe.
The higher up people better not kill him for sending good messages and helping younger generations with advice
But he’s not heaven bound.
Yea Ok because people say that religion makes you a “better” person. Just because they are considered God’s people, they think that they have more morals than non religious people.
@Yea Ok The fact that Christians are the most persecuted group in the world today, I think the most bigots are anyone outside that group tbh
@Yea Ok Sure. Especially Islam. But it just proves Christians are not the ones who are bigots
Being kind is a choice. One of my favorite quotes that is something I honestly try to live by is 'What good I may do, let me do it now, for I may not pass this way again'.
I also think it's important to know that when you are being kind, you shouldn't expect anything in return, even acknowledgment of your kind act. Being kind to someone else is actually a gift for yourself and it feeds your character.
The best way to be disappointed is to have expectations :)
Thank you so much, now I realise where I was wrong..
@@aj8714 I don't know if you're being sincere or sarcastic. I hope sincere. :)
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No good deed goes unpunished
I like how Joe really observed how terrible he felt, was insanely honest with himself and us, and was able to articulate it. Unlike people to go to therapy and know $20 words but haven’t felt or lived their shiny new vocabulary . You can tell Joe understands a lot more than he can over-articulate
Joe Rogan is like my daily cup of coffee don't want to go a day without it/him😁💯
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I always loved when I watch a UFC match and the guys hug afterwards or they tap gloves throughout the match. Takes a lot
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My parents never really pushed me to say thank you, holding doors for strangers, to help out & what not but I am so glad I picked it up on my own, you never know what someone’s going through
Same here, I pick up things that feel good and useful to me, and extend the same to others. Didn’t have values forced on me early.
I try to be considerate and patient with people.
2:23 that guy wasn't being rude, he was probably just like "holy shit, was that Joe Rogan? Huh? What?"
That would be my reaction.
100% agree with Joe Rogan, I do this daily and enjoy being respectful and kind to everyone bc it costs zero and win friendships .
Joe Rogan is very generous, kind, and compassionate.
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BE KIND. REWIND.
good ol daze. Made sure we rewound them
Wt does it mean?
@@FangMania9898 Blockbusters dude
What the guest was saying about teaching your kids manners is SO important!!! Holding doors, greeting people, helping with bags, little things that are crucial for, just, maintaining civility. Simply being NICE, in general, is absolutely central to my own personal well being.
Amen and Amen ! Totally agree
it really is. it's crzy how many ppl lack it. but those who don't it's always refreshing .
My grandmother would always say that kindness is taught and learned at home. I saw my grandmother and parents be kind and lend a helping hand without any expectations..you never know what the other person is going thru.
The world can be a sick place when you are unconditionally kind. It will make you unkind and hate yourself.
Be kind to the right people who deserve it.
I say be kind, don’t be a pushover. That’s it, if you can tell the difference I believe you are solid. I am kind to as many people as possible without forgetting I should never expect anything in return.
Be kind to the people that deserve it 💯💯💯💯💯💯
Be kind to yourself... don't beat yourself up.
Being kind doesn't mean being stupid. Have boundaries
Just be good to people in general, even if you don't know them. You dont have to let them take advantage of you. If you try to judge people in everyday interactions to see if they deserve your kindness, i feel like that can make you not only overly judgemental, but insecure and egotistical.
I definitely agree. Be kind to each other.
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@@sdotstadia315 hell nah
Two favorite Bible Scriptures: "It is better to give then to receive " and "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"
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Even flashing a smile towards your brother is an act of charity ~ prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)😊
Always be polite and well mannered. But never forget this world is every man for themselves. If you let them, even the nicest person in the world will take advantage of you. Look after yourself first.
Ashley James Love your avatar. Best rap album of all time in this humble punk's opinion.
Brad Agee - agree my man! Greatest rap album ever. Ashley well said!!!
U guys are delusional
Speechless Lasmr - lol false my man. What is the greatest rap album all time in your opinion my good sir? Illmatic is definitely top 5 all time if not #1. It’s hard to say that is an opinion statement my dude. If you really know your hip hop.
Daniel Lawler Ik it’s not true because I don’t try to take advantage of others. U guys just clearly haven’t met a genuinely nice person in ur entire lifes
I learned how to be kind through hippies! i know they get a lot of hate for god know what reason..but they are legit the nicest, selfless people ive hung out with, they all helped each other out and well thats where i learned the behaviour and i gotta admit it does feel really good to be of service to others!
I mean Jesus himself was kind of a hippie
Here there's your answer
The feeling and good health that being kind gives you is priceless
The best people are people who are nice even though other people have messed them around their entire life. Respect is a huge thing in life.
very true. Always be kind because you never know what someone's been through. Being nice can change someone's life and it will change yours.
2:24 when you talk about the guy in the hallway i find funny. I'm from the UK. When I visited America for vacation, whenever i was in a elevator or in a close quarters environment, everyone says 'Hello' and smiles. Here in the UK, if you do that, you're a really weird person. Really remarkable how cultures differ on the most minor scale.
Hoskii i’m from ireland and here everyone would be saying hello to each other so even across a short distance it changes
Yeah it's weird. Us Brits just don't like to talk to each other for some reason (even though I do).
In Canada
We respect your privacy
But can also easily be very friendly
You can have your peaceful solitude ...and then talk friendly with a stranger
I guess you must live in London or some other big city as i live about 70 miles away from London and strangers say hi to eachother here
AndroidDev I actually live in the Cotswolds. I’m surprised you say that, I find if you’re not really well known in the local community people just judge you and don’t want to talk to you ever.
I used to work in movie theatre. An elderly was next in line and i took his order. After he paid me, he said I provided good service and he appreciated that. He then saif he would but he didn't have cash, so he asked me if he can shake my hand (2 years before the pandemic). I had never received such kindness from a stranger ever in my life. I was so glad to shake this guy's hand because to me it was sign of mutual respect. I was already smiling, but for the rest my shift, i was in total bliss haha. Nothing could ruin my day!
I love how, when hiking, the norm (at least in Italy) is to say "hi" to people. Those little moments really warm my heart.
I enjoy being humble and generous! It’s definitely a great thing in life! It keeps me going!
I was a modern dude seeking to “be free” and “go with the flow”, with no clear moral code. I did my best to be kind to others, but looking back, I was lost, I hurt others, and I just ended up getting hurt.
The only thing that helped me was to get back to my roots. I am Jewish and became very observant. I am now happy and am living a life I am proud of.
So, I like to think that I’m an example of how religion can be good. I resisted it for so long. It’s good to be home.
If you feel the urge to explore a religion (preferably that of your ancestors), I encourage you to do it and reap the happiness and peace of mind that will come.
Good luck and blessings, everyone.
Waterman i always wondered why some people are so submerged in religion and I started to notice it was because it gives clarity or peace to them and your example is one of that
Being nice is so underrated. Thanks Joe for shedding some light on the subject.
One of my job’s core values is to “be a good person”. It’s one of my favorites because I truly believe you should always try and be a genuinely kind person.
I was raised to be polite and have manners and all that. We would wave and say hello to strangers..then I moved to more populated areas and cities...lol they would look at me like I was crazy for saying hello to a stranger.
I taught myself to be kind, instead of nice. Being polite is impressive and refreshing. Treating people like people is just as affective as feeding them grapes. It’s about respect. I used to be rude or manipulative to people and I chose to be that way because I was bullied but I’m so glad I decided that I have control over my life.
Kindness isn't seen as a weakness out here in the country. It's just how people are.
I really miss that about living away from the city
My high school choir teacher taught all of his students how to be decent humans. He has an energy that is just contagious and if you weren’t a nice person you definitely turned into a nice person in his classroom.
I feel kindness is something the majority of our society considers weak and pointless, it’s about crushing and defeating your fellow man down instead of helping one another out. People I feel are either getting more robotic in that they don’t feel or care about anyone or anything or they feel bitterness and hate moreover anything even resembling compassion and joy...really bums me out
The only thing you can do is respond in kindness.
They also hate themselves & don’t believe they can ever be happy so they try 2 ruin others happiness
“You need your sword. It needs to be sheathed but you must have it”- J Peterson the 🐐
And the media has tried to smear this man. He’s a good example for young men.
It feels good when you acknowledge and validate someone's existence. Especially when it comes back. Like tuning forks we can amplify loving vibrations. We are pure Love. Some just don't know it.
You are spot on, Joe!!! Thank you so much for speaking about this. You're amazing.
When I was a freshman in college, I was walking to class and in passing, said hi to a guy on the school soccer team and he laughed in my face.
I'll never forget how awful that made me feel; especially since at the time I was just a shy small town girl. These days (and over a decade later) the big city Jowita would've probably audibly disclaimed, "well aren't you just a peach?!", as I sashayed by him..
--Point being..-- that a-hole from college had TWO choices 1. Be a total douche or 2. Be kind. Ever since that moment I told myself I'd never be like him because I'd never want anyone to feel the way I did.
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Stay awesome people like him are miserable and they hate good people like you
@@adamelmi ❤️🤗 Thanks Adam. That was super sweet of you to say!!
@@Jowitaxoxo of course good people have to stick together for the sake of better future
You are pretty. When you said hi to him, he probably was going through a lot of shit, fucked up a bunch of things, had a real low self esteem. He probably did not believe he was worthy of being said hi to by a real pretty girl, he thought you were fucking with him. I know this because I've done it and I've seen everyone else doing it at some point.
@@aminerkin9844 I second that bro
Keep being kind, keep spreading love, & keep being positive!! You never know what a simple act can make somebody feel!
Society needs to hear this people have lost their way and we need people like you I appreciate everything you do you are amazing
I believe the man you greeted in the hallway that didn't respond was star struck. Good vibes and energy to all.
One of the great joys of my life is teaching special education. My class of 7th graders was the kindest group of people would ever meet. I was so proud of them. The most fulfilling thing I could ever do is teach kids how to be kind.
I'm an American living in SE Asia. Ppl don't say hello here, ppl don't open doors for each other, ppl will enter the elevator as you're exiting. it used to piss me off but now I have realized it's just cultural.
This is so spot on to the way everyone should treat each other. This is how we all can make the world better for us and our children.
kindness is the only way for u to survive and have a good day. thanks for being so open.
Immense gratitude for your beautiful soul ... I LOVE your kindness and compassion
Izzy lol
Some of the most competitive and best athletes in the world have been the nicest people off the field/court/track. There’s nothing wrong with being kind, it’s more of a strength than a weakness. Even something as small as holding the door open is enough to make someone’s day better
It takes guts and courage to be kindness. Period.
Hatred is a waste of time
Being kind is something we need in these times!
This is why I love Joe! He is very kind and down to earth! Not only that, he is very motivating! I love listening to his podcast because of that! 🖤🖤
I learned from the famous line “if you don’t have nothing nice to say.. don’t say anything at all”
I've been crushed from being too kind to the point where I could no longer look someone in the eyes.. It's a hard world man.. But you gotta learn from those mistake and understand.. who is worthy of your kindness and with who you need to be cold as a rock ..
100% agree with Joe. When I moved to UK from an old soviet country you could really see the difference in people and how they behave. Life is so much nicer and easier if people are kind and polite and smile. It really dosnt take much to make a big big difference. I used to think being kind is a weakness. Now when I see rude/arrogant people I just feel sorry for them...
Great to hear men talking about these things, Joe Rogan. Keep up the good work!
Joe Rogan is an awesome guy. I'm learning lots of things listening to him. I'm so happy to have stumbled upon his podcast. Thanks!!!
I think that sometimes when strangers are nice we respond coldly because you don't trust why they are being nice. We grow up learning about manipulators untrustworthy people that turn on you tell others your secrets make fun of you . So theres this feeling of wanting to protect yourself and it makes you cynical.
Joe is like a father we never had
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Problem is that parents fail to give their children chores. Something they're accountable for. It teaches people how to appreciate things and people.
I know this is an old podcast, but I am just seeing it . It is so important to be kind , I always tell my kids when they are leaving the house (when they were living at home ) “ Make it a great day, make good choices, be kind, I love you “ and when going to anyone else’s house “mind your manners” . 😊 I believe it worked and stuck with them .
Have a beautiful productive day!!
That last part about shame is so relatable. I used to go from job to job and be without for two weeks to two months but was consistent. When I'd live wife's family members they would not know my routine and drive so they would do nothing but stress me, lecture me like I've never wanted or had a job in my life. The shame and guilt they would think is helping me did as much for me as yelling at the sun to come up at best and stopped bme from getting jobs at its worst.
It makes me feel good when i do a daily good deed and be kind...and i always smile at people 😊
Kindness can change people greatly. And when you learn how to be kind to people you learn how to be kind to urself. Be kind for no reason please it’s so important I’m glad he said this. Forgive the pain others cause you and instead give them a reason to heal themselves, it’s not your job to do justice.
True, The state of society is very sad right now it's unbelievable how hateful a lot of people are and with 0 empathy of how they impact other people. I do my best to be polite and respectful but I've had times when I've held the door for a lady or picked up something they dropped and they just stare at me with a blank or confused look and don't say anything..
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Yes. This lady at a store knocked over a large stack of items.
I helped her pick them up, and I was doing so, she walks away from all of the mess she had made. Makes a person not want to help anyone ever again.
I'm addicted to listening to Joe Rogans show - Amazing!
Joes way of thinking is absolutely genius. Just has a way of breaking things down for us 🤘love this dude