A World Of Unusual Sexual Orientations - Dr James Cantor
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- Dr James Cantor is a clinical psychologist and sexologist specialising in hypersexuality and paraphilia.
There are a broad range of things that turn humans on. Some are common, some are uncommon and some are very illegal. James' study of paraphilias exposes him to some of the world's most interesting and unusual sexual desires with the goal of working out why they exist.
Expect to learn how asexuality could evolve at all, why some able-bodied people feel that they should be amputees, why adults like to be dressed up as babies, the link between left-handedness and child abuse, what James thinks about depression in the trans community, why it's become increasingly impossible to have conversations about dangerous sexual desires and much more...
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00:00 Intro
00:20 What is Paraphilia?
09:34 The Existence of Homosexuality
14:32 Lesbians are Complex
21:01 What We Get Wrong About Paedophilia
28:50 Correlation of Handedness & Sexuality
34:01 Do We Have Control Over Arousal?
43:43 How to Reframe the Debate around Sexual Orientations
56:50 Different Types of Paedophilia
1:06:17 Are Child Sex Dolls Ethical?
1:12:22 The Transgender Debate
1:24:36 Correlation of Transgenderism & Autism
1:32:14 Suicide in the Trans Community
1:41:19 Consequences of a Commercial Health System
1:47:37 Where to Find Dr Cantor
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Hello you beauties. Access all episodes 10 hours earlier than CZcams by Subscribing on Spotify - spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - apple.co/2MNqIgw. Here’s the timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:20 What is Paraphilia?
09:34 The Existence of Homosexuality
14:32 Lesbians are Complex
21:01 What We Get Wrong About Paedophilia
28:50 Correlation of Handedness & Sexuality
34:01 Do We Have Control Over Arousal?
43:43 How to Reframe the Debate around Sexual Orientations
56:50 Different Types of Paedophilia
1:06:17 Are Child Sex Dolls Ethical?
1:12:22 The Transgender Debate
1:24:36 Correlation of Transgenderism & Autism
1:32:14 Suicide in the Trans Community
1:41:19 Consequences of a Commercial Health System
1:47:37 Where to Find Dr Cantor
So good to hear a positive shout out to Ray Blanchard who is a cancelled person now because of his data on male transexuals primarily erotic motivations (autogynophilia / AGP).
He’s pro pedo that’s all you need to know about the shifty little fruit
depraved GOD will destroy america just as prophecy says
CHRIST WILL KEEP HIS WORD
This was a brilliant conversation, no one else is willing to discuss all the difficult topics like James Cantor does.
Agreed. He's very tactful, but still open and honest. Not afraid to question orthodoxy in pursuit of truth (or as close to truth as we can get with such topics).
Cantor is so impressive. A scientist and a humanitarian. Just a great human being.
I’d love to discuss and study paraphilic disorders too!
Check him out a little more. Its not pretty.
"All very logical. All very plausible, although we are at the far reaches of my expertise."
What a great scientific epistemological statement.
Such great way of saying "I could totally be wrong but..."
I'm glad you gave the doctor more time than he usually gets to discuss his field. Fascinating stuff.
As a therapist and a parent, thank you Chris for having the courage to discuss these highly controversial and socially uncomfortable social dynamics in a public forum. The idea transmitted of the paradox of people wanting to protect children and unfortunately unwittingly exacerbating the problem validates the existence of this episode on its own merit on top of the numerous other excellent talking points throughout the episode.
I love this guy he is willing to approach topics about the sex change and labels that people don't want to have because of feelings. YOU need to have him back.
@@ggrthemostgodless8713 agree as an early onset TS, I want this information known. A heterosexual married man with kids who crossdressed and then transitioned has nothing to do with me.
@@tula1433you sound like a crazy person.
He's certainly a character - but he seems objective and his arguments sound solid and well-based. Great interview - and as so many have said already: It's wonderful to experience an interviewer that lets people talk.
Maybe I made that sound negative, my bad. I meant he was entertaining and engaging. I love characters.
outstanding chat, chaps. Where has this guy been hiding, he's brilliant. Thanx
He's actually been interviewed and in the public eye a lot, but he gets hated on a lot for saying pedophilia is innate 😕
@@clairehann2681 probably also for making logical, but inconvenient, distinctions between sex crimes, sexual orientations. Also likely because he says uncomfortable, but likely true, things about religious traditions.
WOW. THIS is the guy I wish you could have had on the podcast long ago.
His area of RESEARCH is exactly where people want to spend so much time talking talking talking but with no real data supporting them.
THIS GUY has the data. FINALLY!
Dayum, it quickly makes you realize that we really do not have the correct kind of conversations about many of these topics.
People don't want to grapple with some of this stuff
@@clairehann2681 So true! People like to remain within their comfort zones, unfortunately.
@@squidandchips appropriately so... Condoning, encouraging, and glorifying deviant behavior ruin's countless lives. Just look at the explosion of trans in our adolescent population. Nearly all who later revert to their biological gender, after mutilating their bodies and destroying their future. As a bisexual woman now the current trends are especially disturbing due to the fact that I feel I would have been pulled into this had this current conversation had happened in my teens. Mostly because puberty is a extremely uncomfortable period of time especially for young women.
That's because most people who make a living off talking about this stuff have degrees in some humanities field. They have no idea how real science works but know everything about how to use impressive language.
@@Daniel-yc5pc ... and they're usually so bloody superiority-driven when it comes to their and their only sexuality and morality that a simple, technical discussion is off the table even way before it got interesting.
THE best conversation on this topic I have ever listened to (and I've listened to quite a few!).
I sincerely sincerely appreciate him saying this out loud. I’m in medicine and yes it was 10 years ago when these discussions around children began. There is no evidence, these are all experimental and hugely profitable….it’s so disgusting how readily people are sacrificing their children. It makes no sense. None.
CHRIS, CHRIS, CHRIS!!! THIS!!!!! Perhaps one the THE best conversations you've had (fior me) to-date ... I salute you Sir
"I'm not an ideologue." That is such a refreshing statement, and Dr. Cantor's behavior in this interview provides ample evidence that he is not an ideologue. We really need more scientists researching in controversial areas who are not ideologues and who are willing to proportion their beliefs to the evidence.
Excellent episode! And your guys are both brave for even having this conversation!
As someone who has been sexually touched and played with by an adult when I was a 5 year old girl, all of this makes a lot of sense. Thank the lord, I had the strength to get past it where I can look back at it without trauma. I genuinely feel bad for the ones who are cursed with this sexual orientation.
That shows a lot of strength of character on your part that you can put that behind you and even show empathy towards that type of person.
@@cras17 I don’t know how to respond to this except by saying I know it is hard to do and the victims don’t owe their perpetrator anything. My belief is if we can get them the right help and still condemn the action that would prevent a lot more children in the future from experiencing what was I once did. The people born with this are not at fault for being born with this type of orientation-that’s where my empathy for them stems from
I enjoyed this honest and real conversation on a difficult subject. I wish more people would partake in a more nuanced and less polarising conversation about controversial subjects.
A very "brave" and important discussion. Thank you for having the journalistic integrity to find an expert in the field and explore it properly. Great interview!
So glad you spoke to Dr Cantor - really fascinating.
The segment called "How to Reframe the Debate Around Sexual Orientations" was my favorite bit and for what it's worth I think it should be a clip.
"I'm gay fo three weeks out of every month, but for one week every month I turn straight again." Mating season hits every species hard.
Especially human [healthy/normal] men who are literally on sex hormones 24/7 until they get fat or fall in love.
I just thought that was when she's ovulating and her 'natural' breeding instincts kick in.
@@dustinluthro3023 Yea, mating season. Humqns just have it once a month instead of once or twice a year and it doesn't cause extreme changes.
I don't even have a uterus anymore but I can still tell when I'm ovulating by my sex drive. Shit's real.
@@that1chickinFL Well, as long as you have ovaries ovulation should still occur.
fine line between destigmatization so as to encourage ppl to do therapy, and normalization and risking them believing there's nothing wrong w/ them, therefore nothing to change/restrain and therefore freedom to act on.
I was thinking the same thing. The road to hell is paved with good intentions! It seems with all this moving to the left and the Pandora’s box of anti kink shaming being lifted it’s only a matter of time before this conversation was inevitable.
The elephant in the room is the fact that many people who have identified as trans or been identified as trans after many years have decided they now have buyer's remorse and are reversing their transition surgeries. The problems that they're trying to resolve usually emotional are in fact not resolved. This is being seen in the explosion in the number of young girls who decide that they and their peer group are all now in reality boys rather than girls. It's well known that young girls often become embroiled in these social panics. And the best way to address them is to simply wait until they achieve a higher level of social maturity. I do not in any way mean to suggest that no one ever experiences a real transsexual identity crisis only that they are far less common than the media and certain popular individuals suggest they are.
Well said!
That's right! Only men can be true Trans
This was a very interesting discussion.
I was sexually abused by more people than I can remember, my earliest memories are of being sexually abused.
But what this guy said about treatment for prevention really hit me because the last time I was abused by my dad, I woke up, he’d often do it while I was asleep and I’d pretend to be asleep, but the last time I screamed and he knew that I knew. He never did it again.
My mom didn’t hear me scream, I never told anyone what happened. But I think he did fell ashamed.
I wonder if he had access to therapy if he would have choose a different path.
What happened to you is horrible. I hope you have access to amazing therapists and people to help you process what happened to you in a healthy way.
Cantor briefly mentions "incest patterns" and that is differentiated from the brain-wired paedophiles he mostly talks about. But yes either way therapy might have helped.
I hope you have been able to get therapy yourself.
The phenomenon of having older brothers increasing the odds of a younger gay sibling is interesting, though if true wouldnt it also suggest that there would be likely declining numbers of gay men as families have gotten much smaller over time?
Edit: typo
Potentially. But not if overall levels of in-utero masculinization are going down. Then it would take fewer children to get to the gay ones. (Assuming this is the only mechanism influencing homosexual expression, which it might not be.)
Disclaimer: Implied speculation.
Abortions could split the difference, assuming the pregnancy goes long enough for the Y chromosome to kick in I guess.
@@johnnycomelately9400 That's also a fair point.
He is a bit misleading about the "older brother effect" (the scientific name is "fraternal birth order effect" btw). The effect is only found among gay men who prefer the receptive role in anal sex. These gay men also generally have feminised faces and petite bodies. However there is no evidence of the brother effect among gay men who prefer the penetrative role or who have no preference.
@@jedimmj11 Interesting, thanks.
Wow. This explains so much. I’m a trans guy (female to male) that transitioned 10 yrs ago with proper gate keeping/therapy before this trans viral thing took off and I was wondering what the hell caused the explosion. And the overlap of autism/trans/kink I’ve definitely noticed in my previous queer social groups. So weird but makes perfect sense. Would love to see a Jordan Peterson & Dr. Cantor collab the US really needs to address this mess. Awesome podcast as usual!
Peterson is not a specialist in this area to the degree Cantor is.
@@gilgamecha Peterson regularly speaks to experts outside of his field.
Why'd you transition to male or why did you trans from female to male
@@Cheesesteakfreakbecause of the dysphoria caused by having a female body but male nervous system and brain. I know Im never going to be 100% male but it’s better than nothin and im much more confident and happy and things make sense now.
Brilliant conversation as usual Chris 👏.
Like so many other comments, I found James Cantor brilliant and fascinating. Great interview!
Dr. Cantor knows his stuff.
This was one of the best episodes! I'm definitely going to be sharing this one around with people I know!
Really enjoyed this discussion!
Great guest and conversation. Really a topic I've never thought about.
I disagree when he says people's unwillingness to " understand " pedophilia comes from virtue signaling. I'm sure that's a piece of it, but I think it is much more the result of people not wanting to destigmatize something, that could then be normalized. When ever society destigmatizes something it often does become more normalized or prevalent. For example, destigmatizing divorce, promiscuous sex, homosexuality, interracial relationships, transgenderism etc... certainly the increased empathy, and openness on these topics has lead to a society that now see these things as normal, as in there is nothing wrong with engaging in these acts/ behaviors. I'm not sure why he thinks this wouldn't apply to pedophilia.
I can understand it just fine. Doesn't change my mind on it in the slightest.
@@goc6451 that argument is the current final destination of gender ideology right now. They are trying to remove the idea that children can't consent.
@@goc6451 we are already transphobes if we don't want trans activists grooming our children. So yes I fear you might be right.
Thank you, someone with a logical perspective on this. I'm terrified of the amount of people saying this is "brilliant" and "great" without giving it a second thought
@@joelfee💯
Fascinating episode. I think it could also be titled "an interview between the most and least emotive people on earth" haha.
This guy offers genuine solutions. So we can be certain that it's going to be suppressed or buried.
Great conversation!
Great interview! Great questions were asked, and it was really interesting!
Amazing conversation. Thank you.
This is a very interesting man, and comes across as a great upholder of science; not willing to fall into traps of faulty logic
I turn 70 this year. My ears perked up when they described gerontofilia!
😏
An amazing interview in so many ways
This is one of my favourite episodes. Dr James Cantor is brilliant and very entertaining. I'm so happy that people like him exists. It was a great interview! I hope that Chris brings him back on his show ❤❤❤
This was extremely challenging for me to listen to because I'm a square, honestly. It really changed the way I think about a lot of things.
This was a fascinating conversation overall, but I have to vehemently disagree about de-stigmatizing pedophilia. Child molestation and pedophilia may not be the same, but they are inextricably linked for good reason. Social taboos and shaming often exists to protect a particular group, in this case, children. I agree that we should encourage nonoffending pedophiles to get therapy, but they also need to understand just how damaging their "orientation
" is. I agree that there is evidence that it is partly biologically determined (the handedness thing was fascinating) but there is also evidence that it can be learned, and evidence that certain sub-cultures promote it. If we tell them that nature is in control, nurture will have no chance.
Also, unless the kids being shown to pedophiles in research are cartoons/AI, that is not even close to ethical. Children. Cannot. Consent. And child sex dolls are encouragement. Let's be real.
All that said, Dr. Cantor is very engaging and I would love to listen to him again. I appreciated his balances take on women valuing resource security and his compassionate yet evidence-based opinion on the trans issue.
Not much research into child dolls out there, but the recent comparative survey by Craig Harper and Rebecca Lievesley(Exploring the Ownership of Child-Like Sex Dolls) didn't show much evidence for increased risk of offending compared to non-doll owners. More research will be needed to find any possible direct effects and address survey limitations, but so far escalation isn't supported.
In effect isn't it the difference between the male sex drive, and infidelity or rape? We can agreed the last two are harmful, and causes by the first, without saying the first is itself evil.
As a father, child sex dolls freak me out but I am willing to be persuaded by evidence that they could work to reduce the risk of offending. My instinct though is that they would not. This is similar to the argument of whether porn increases or decreases the risk of offending. For porn we know for sure that it leads to more extreme forms and it damages the ability to have normal sexual relations. I would expect dolls to be worse (but I could be wrong).
@@gilgamecha
We actually don't know if p0rn has those effects generally. Some of the suggested effects are widely cited/accepted, but the research suggests possible different effects for different groups. Studies cited below have their names altered, but should be the first link on Google.
One study challenged the interest escalation hypothesis and found interests in their sample were static, and violent interests _decreased_ over the study period.
Landripet, et al(2019). Testing the content progression thesis
Evidence for escalation to physical offending comes from higher risk offenders, or those predisposed to s3xual aggression. Those at low risk don't seem to be escalated by it. This is also similar for consumption of child p0rnography, where additional risk factors also appear to make the difference between image-only offenders, and molester/mixed offenders. It's those findings, as well as the observed _negative_ correlation between p0rn(including child) and physical offending at a population level, where the suggestion that fictional images and dolls may deter physical offenses comes from.
Malamuth(2018) Adding Fuel to the Fire
Thompson(2019) Contact Offending
Erectile dysfunction is more connected with depression and anxiety. P0rn may make it worse if the user is uncomfortable with their use of it, but no direct effects found otherwise. Similar indirect effects are found for relationship quality. Relationships where one partner feels uncomfortable with the other's use(jealousy/self esteem, betrayal, religious) can result in poorer outcomes, but those who don't have issues with their partner's consumption, or willingly join in it have neutral or better outcomes.
Rowland et al(2022)use in erectile dysfunction and relationship satisfaction in men
@@EternalDahaka that was not my understanding of the science on this but I appreciate your reasoned and referenced response.
Phenomenal conversation. Thank you both.
Great discussion. Thanks!
This guy makes more sense to me than anyone I’ve encountered to date.
Fascinating guest. Great job at getting him on.
I would still like to see: Curtis Yarvin, Michael Malice, the dude from Academy of ideas.
This was absolutely fascinating
Cantor was illuminating, thanks for having him on. Thinks like a real scientist.
I can't imagine what Dr Cantor's search history looks like.
This is life changing!!!!
Not for the algo! This is a bloody brilliant episode. Thank you
My mother had a boy and a girl and wanted another girl but had me. She incidentally subliminally used a certain amount of femininity to raise me, sort of tried to raise me with an open mind to sexuality. Just saying the parent can have an influence on the mind set of the future adult, as we all accept with many other traits but not homosexuality.
One of the best guests you've had yet... well done.
When I was a kid I was watching a Dutch government television channel, they were playing old programmes from the 1970's where there was a p'phile advocate who was talking about the exact same things as this guest. I remember looking at that and thinking "Wow, people in the past were way more Progressive than we are today", now over a decade later I haven't changed my stance. Everyone is against the people who act on it, but I base my morality on the idea that you could be born as anyone in this society and should try to make it as fair as possible.
How can a child consent? They can’t know what they are until adulthood. You are damaging their innocence if you hurt them with your adult sexual desires. Society should shun murderers thieves and pedophiles. If not society will no longer exist and barbarism will take its place. You can see this happening in much of the blue states of America. No shopkeeper can open a shop where society allows theft.
Childhood innocence will not exist if it is systematically abused. This horror show must stop!
This is why I never understood the grouping LGBTQA+.
Factually, there is L and G…maybe B, but the rest of it has nothing to do with sexual attraction.
It makes a lot more sense to view the activist expansion into a full alphabet as a convenient political lever for radicals rather than following any kind of consistent rule.
Convenient catch all and provides a uniting statement.
I love how Cantor deconstructs the alphabet as a popularity club and the antithesis of lesbian/gay/bi liberation.
My sexuality is asexual and I am not attracted to anyone. I am not gay, straight, or bi. I am an asexual guy.
GSM is a better acronym, Gender and Sexual Minorities
Amazing episode. Loved it.
Very interesting and enlightening conversation.
Brilliant episode
Fantastic doctor, amazing conversation! 🤓😻👍
Incredible interview. Yes, the health care professions in the US system seem more concerned about retaining total control while also failing to self police. Not a situation that should continue. Also, Australia does have some ads for drugs but only for drugs we can buy without needing a prescription. There are no commercials for prescription drugs. I do, however, have some concerns about some drugs that the public can buy OTC.
That was really good. I’m gonna get on Twitter and follow the guy
It's one thing to put people in therapy.. it's another to make aberrations acceptable and normal
Didn't you hear him? Clinical pedos are 10-15% of the population according to research. That's not an aberration, that's basically a part of human nature. It's only an aberration to you because society deems it so, because we have a natural desire to protect our children. We're talking about more people than LEFT HANDED PEOPLE.
@@thehaloofthesun7174 i hear your degenerate communist perspective. You arent changing my mind sicko.
Do you think that's what Dr Cantor's overall message was - "to make aberrations acceptable and normal"?
Look at how he talked about virtue signaling… when there’s a DIFFERENCE between virtue-signaling (saying you believe something you really don’t only for the perceived social benefit) and VIRTUE (people who take stands because they believe in something strongly--SUCH AS NOT WANTING CHILDREN TO BE R**ED.)
Well I guess the goal of the therapy is aimed at removing said aberrations...
It makes a lot of sense to be honest. Let people get the help they need for an affliction they didn't choose to have. Keep pedophillia illegal of course, but at least allow those who need help, and want to be normal at least be able to try to be normal without being socially destroyed.
Love your podcast brother keep up the great work Chris
Thank you!!
Really interesting!
JAMES! Fantastic!
Absolutely fascinating conversation! As a parent to an Autistic child, and having just found out recently that a lot of Autistic people identify as trans, I wish you could have spent a little more time on that portion. I have a theory that it is part of Sensory Processing Disorder from the way I've heard it described by Autistic Trans people. I also wonder if it's a bit of a social acceptance thing ie if your trans, then you are accepted and affirmed, but if you are Autistic, people want to cure you and modify the behaviors that society doesn't understand, like stimming.
I've also changed my thoughts on MAPS, I was totally against normalizing this but if people are not acting on these impulses then they should definitely be helped and given understanding and compassion. Thankyou for going where many would not dare x
Compassion for the abused children is where our hearts should weep. Normalising adults abusing children is against all compassion. Children are precious gifts to the world not sexual playthings of adults.
Please amplify this information as much as possible.
Very very informative podcast.
Guarantee this dude is a super engaging lecturer. Lucky students.
I think a lot of kinks are manufactured through porn and such.
While certainly genetic expression is influenced by socially engineered environmental factors such as what you say, in the end, if someone is even capable of expressing such traits, it is likely the propensity to do so was encoded in their genes from the very beginning: recessive or otherwise
@@lordofgingers or just that a lot of it is more “extreme” aka a stronger “hit” due to being strange and unique
@@lordofgingers nope. Go read about effects of oorn on the brain. Coolidge effect explains a lot of fucjed up kink shit.
Nothing in life is free, you can't even get free parking now a days but PRON is somehow free. Think about it.
@@bbeaup I’m very well aware of all that. What I’m saying is one’s potential to be that always existed. If it ain’t in your genetic makeup to express that, you get the point. Environment cannot make an organism express that which does not exist in the makeup
what an awesome episode! kudos to you both for this conversation.
To clarify about pedophilia, it's the sexual attraction towards children/teenagers prior to puberty. If you happen to see a teenager who's "questionable" in age but clearly near or at the line of adulthood, than there's nothing wrong with you. For the same reason why nothing changes on the day someone turns 18 from 17. Even if most people would never admit it out of social shame or pressure, we still understand restraint and what's socially moral whether it's a cope or not. Or should we call it virtue signaling? Lol.
I saw a pic of a former mother in law. Guessed her to be early 20s - she was just turned 13.. Her daughters were "adults" at 12 and 11 - absurd numbers.. Also known 18 yos that looked pre pubertyish - no "logic" in the laws...
@@CONEHEADDK Yeah exactly. I've known 17 year olds who look more mature than 30 year olds except with very fair facial features. It's not to say the laws ought to change downward at all what so ever. In fact it's my belief that today people aren't mentally mature enough to have sex at 18 anyway, even if they're beyond physically mature enough. Though Ironically if we went back 100 years people were definitely mature enough at 15 to have sex, or even start families. There's an awful lot of context that has to be corrected when discussing age and sex. But because sex is such a casual and often not respected ordeal, I don't think sex and being young is an intelligent choice. But maybe that's my opinion.
just say you're a kiddie fiddler. I'm not touching a 19-21 year old, and you're here talking about an 18 year old or younger!! tf is wrong with you. Again, if you're attracted to children just say it but any girl under 24 makes me want to hurl.
@@wisdomandy9361 Sixteen is the age of consent in many states. Granted, that’s the youngest, but in a country with laws against pederasty, you’ve got to draw the line somewhere, you know, legally.
@@nocapnobs7845 You don't have a clue. Look into reality, ask your female friends - if you've ever had any..
Thank you
this was so much to listen to
Amazing discussion. Tje doc has such beautiful eyes...
Older men who have children are more likely to have female children and are more likely to have boys w more feminine facial structure… so I wonder if they’re taking high male parental age into account. Older men over 35 also give their kids much higher rates of autism, schizophrenia, allergic and autoimmune conditions… science focussed on female age for so long that they weren’t taking into account the age of the man (due to sexist bias.) Stange because in all other mammals, young females aren’t choosing the old “distinguished” lions, bucks, etc etc 😂 but rational turns into rationalizing when scientists face motivated reasoning.
I’m not asexual, but I choose not to participate in “the game”. It’s all too much work, effort, tiring, and risky for me. I’m very risk averse, but more than that I just really like being alone. Most humans empty my tank and I prefer my own company best.
If you get anything out of this episode let it be the difference between SUICIDE and SUICIDALITY!
Fascinating conversation, really enjoyed it! Thank you.
Excellent. What a highly intelligent man.
Fascinating interview! I’m just halfway through this on Podcast. Cheers, Chris!
fascinating topic. thanks
You follow some wicked cool topics and ideas.
Great conversation, and this man reminds me of Liberace. There may be some of you who remember him, if not check the similarities and you’ll be amazed. I mean no offence at all with my statement it’s simply that Liberace was until this moment one of a kind. ❤️
I was struggling with who Dr Cantor reminded me of until I read your comment. Excellent observation, spot on
I'm not surprised because after years of working for a moving company I've noticed that people aren't as unique as we think we are. While I've never met two people exactly alike, it's strange how often similar personalities are repeated. I suspect all of this gender confusion is at least partially driven by desire to differentiate ourselves from the county personalities were exposed to online.
The way Chris speaks exemplifies the problem Dr. Cantor is talking about. The specific language used. "Offending" vs "non-offending" pedophile.
There is no such thing as an offending or non-offending pedophile.
There are child molesters and there are pedophiles. One is a criminal, the other is a sexual attraction in a person's mind, a want, a desire.
Wanting to hit someone is also a desire. Most people don't tend to act on that desire. People also don't tend to rape people when they aren't getting laid. Just look at the incels, they're just suicidal.
If 2/3 of child molesters are non-pedophiles, does that mean that statistically children are safer around pedophiles?
Edit: The longer I am alive on the planet and learn about science, nature, physics, biology, chemistry (Which is just modern alchemy and shouldn't exist. It's just quantum mechanics scaled up. Fight me.), psychology, memetics, neuroanatomy, neurochemistry, history, human social behavior, and all the other fields of knowledge, the more I feel like there really might be some form of higher being that created the universe, it has a really shitty sense of humor, and we're the punchline. Dead serious.
... What? There is such a thing as an offending and non offending pedophile. There is no such thing as a non offending child molester. To put it in a less controversial setting, there are certainly offending and non offending straight men, when it comes to discussion of the crime of rape. Pedophile is a class, just as much as male and straight.
@@thehaloofthesun7174 Yes? That exactly what I said?
1/3 of molesters being pedophiles overrepresents them since they're 1-5% of the population. Children would be at increased risk among pedophiles. It's just interesting that non-pedophilic adults/juveniles are also risks to offend against children.
@@DefaultFlame You: "There is no such thing as an offending or non offending pedophile".
Me: "There is".
@@EternalDahaka Where did you get the 1-5% from? I thought the whole problem was that we have no idea how many there are who don't molest children because there are negative consequences for them telling anyone.
I have a new name to add to my "intellectual heroes" list; Dr. James Cantor. I was also unaware of Richard Wrangham's work, prior to viewing your discussion with him. Thank you for broadening my intellectual horizons in my 60's. The world is a more interesting and hopefully, slightly more tolerant place because of your work. Excellent content once again!
And do check out Cantor's mentor Ray Blanchard.
Super interesting. And i love prof Cantor
Fascinating conversation!!! As a lefty woman i had to re-listen to the lefty stuff a few times lol
Such interesting interview
Super interesting!
Great video
Found this a very interesting topic
Fantastic discussion. One of the best if not *the* best survey of the field I've seen on the internet. I've followed much of Cantor's work for several years, the non techie stuff. Thanks very much for the illumination.
I loved this conversation although the part about the "P" is always hard. I have tremendous respect for James Cantor, he is truly brave, totally based and so well-spoken. Thank you for hosting, Chris, it was brilliant!
I am what you would consider a classic Christian Conservative. This is one of the BEST most logical explications/discussions I have EVER listened to regarding sexual orientation since Dave Rubin changed my mind and made me more libertarian on Legal Gay Marriage. Great interview. We need more objective discussions like this.
Super fascinating! Evolutionary psychology should be fundamental to education. How vastly different would the world be?
I'm just getting started and I like this guest, seems to bring a lot of knowledge and understanding without losing his humanity or personality, and he seems genuinely interested rather than pushing an agenda or his career. Take it from the man, jaja.
I remember watching a Law and Order SVU that had a paedophile sympathetic conclusion about 20 years ago.
Fascinating conversation. Thanks men ;)
I have been making enemies for years saying the same things about pedophilia that this guy is saying it's nice to hear some vindication from a formal educated source.
Not all educated people are right OR moral.
@@juneelle370 I'm big on morality. I don't care if the person is moral, I only care if the information they are sharing is valid.
Can you tell me what moral issues you have with the information this guy is sending?
Humans are vastly influenced by culture… that is why religion had such a controlling affect on people’s behaviors. Now our “priests” are “experts” that carry the arrogance that they shouldn’t be questioned. He’s definitely part of a movement by elitists who want to normalize child abuse. The porn industry influences society in a MASSIVE way. The vast majority of porn is not making love-it’s making hate-predatory and destructive. The elitists KNOW very well that humans are creatures of story. Story is how humans are controlled. This man saying that social media is simply about “virtue signaling” when there’s a difference between virtue signaling (saying something you don’t really believe for perceived social benefit) and virtue (when you say something you believe strongly because you are against children being abused and r**ed. The elitists have been pushing for a LONG time (hundred of years) to normalize pedophilia because they are PREDATORS by nature… that means lacking empathy and taking pleasure in targeting the helpless/weak. I want those who think this way to get help--and to stay away from children all their lives in order to protect them. Providing people who have these desires w dolls and imagination is ridiculous--what FIRES TOGETHER (in orgasm) WIRES TOGETHER. And the elitists KNOW THIS. That is why the porn industry does what it does-why the vast majority is toxic. They know this divides the sexes… takes men down dirtier and dirtier rabbit holes…. and these nasty behaviors into relationships-starting in teens. Sexuality is PLASTIC-SHAPED BY CULTURE.
@@juneelle370 why do you think he wants to "normalize child abuse" and what exactly does that mean?
You're allowed to make art portraying hate.
I disagree with your definition of "virtue signaling", people can be and often are genuine when they virtue signal, their performance is just exaggerated and done as a signal to let other people know how much they care.
Do you think this guy is not against children being ra##d? We get it. Ra## bad. You don't have to let everyone know that you're against it. We assume you are. If anyone is FOR it, then please let us know.
Pedophilia is not a crime and the majority of pedophiles are not predators.
Do you think that electric shock therapy can make a gay man straight? I assume you're straight. If you stopped "firing" off for the opposite sex for ten years, do you think you'd stop being sexually attracted to them?
This is the sort of content that needs to be going viral. Not ridiculous low level incel content.