Why it's the end for Halo...
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2023
- We are witnessing the end of the Halo franchise in real time. 343 is incompetent and Microsoft seems to be jumping ship. I wouldn't call the future of Halo 'uncertain' at this point like others are I would call it just a matter of time. Microsoft is jumping ship. They've got Bethesda, they're trying to get Activision Blizzard, Halo isn't their priority anymore and I don't even think they'll continue it at the rate things are going.
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As a kid i always said I'd never stop playing halo, now here i am 10 years later actively avoiding it, i hate corporate greed and incompetence
Im aaying the samw thing, except i still find joy in the campaigns as i never was the multiplayer type in halo
I said the same, and I mean it. Simply because I'm still playing the ACTUAL Halo games. These things that have Halo's name on it (Halo 4, Halo 5, Halo Infinite) aren't Halo so I don't have to ever touch them.
Halo naturally aged out by the time Bungie left. It was dead well over 10 years ago. Now it’s a cold, corporate husk. Halo was a product of its era, with its unique grungy-anime aesthetic, of the late 90’s. Nowadays, you’re expected to put out a game with both photorealistic graphics and a script equivalent to a 2 part theater drama. I just miss when Halo was a fun game. Red vs Blue.
Yes I can totally see where you're coming from as far as aging out. I made a video a while ago talking about this how 343 has only really maintained Halo which was a tired formula back in the day and they even do a bad job of that.
IMO Halo really needs to go for larger scale battles and bigger world building to actually be cool but that's just me.
Comparing Bungie era Halo to anime weeb shit is insulting. Gross. Totally out of touch with the topic at hand.
Are you kidding? Were you even alive back then? Halo was at the peak of its popularity when Bungie left. It was a huge shock to everyone because it was stupidly obvious to _everyone_ how much potential Halo had for more games, books, etc. Bungie leaving it was, at the time, viewed as an utterly moronic decision. Throwing the goose that lays golden eggs right off a cliff. And we were right. That was an insanely stupid thing to do, as Bungie has learned the hard way since then. It never "aged out" or anything like that. In fact, if you look at the time and popularity, you will see the _only_ reason it faded in popularity was Halo 4. And this got a lot worse with Halo 5. 343i coming along and shitting on it and the players is _not_ "aging out". If anything, it shows just how durable Halo's legacy and popularity is that it's _still_ popular in spite of 343i and Microsoft's efforts to break it.
@@midgetydeathhalo nunca tuvo el potencial para tenee varios libros, juegos etc. No era una gallina de oros, al mucho una fraquicias pequeña pero hasta ahí.
Halo only dies when you do, imagine being fans and talking about halo's death like we're cod fans or BF or star wars disney.. Halo fans have always been a breed cut from the rest, we are the best, just look at its modding community. There will be a time that we reclaim halo, just only when you use your money to get into courses needed for video game developing and we'll take over 343 and revive halo.
The final nail in the coffin for a franchise is if it can no longer generate profit. Much like Star Wars, 343 refused to listen to what the fans wanted, then proceeded to mock them for it and instead market to the "broader audience" (by trying to market to everyone) Then you have the "fans" (if you could even call them that) that will defend all of 343's bad decisions and call the real fans toxic for providing valid criticism. And look where it got them.
Honestly, never seen anyone who would defend all of 343's decisions. Like one or two, but that's it
@@binaryboopsva yeah and the "real fans giving valid criticism" are 90% of the time just people screaming "SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE AT LAUNCH" and "GAME DEAD LOL"
That shit isn't valid criticism and yet that's what I see out of damn near every "real fan"
In fact, I cant think of a single valid criticism that i have ever seen out of a bungie fanboy. However I do see a plethora of valid criticism coming from Mint Blitz and yet everyone calls him a 343 shill (despite him routinely questioning and disapproving decisions by 343 and voicing his disapproval constantly)
@@phanto6599 listen, it is literally the job of the community manager to distinguish between noise and valid criticism, 343 is and has always been littered by incompetents.
@@BFG-Based this ain't about the community managers. This is about all of the bungie stanboys who do nothing with their lives but hate on 343, and then say that 343 shills (there are about 5 in existence) are the problem because they "never give feedback" while the bungie stans are the ones giving valid feedback and criticism.
I have been following this game and its development for a year and a half now and the ONLY time I saw a 343 hater give actual valuable, tangible feedback was when the youtuber pop2q said 343 should change their name. That's it. Every other piece of criticism that has been given to make the game and franchise better has been said by people who enjoy the game and actually want to see it do better rather than the immature 20 year olds who get every opinion from CZcams who just scream "game dead" and "should have been at launch" as if those are helpful statements and then they go preach that they are the ones giving the healthy criticism. Its just bullshit
@@binaryboopsvaI do like how they have been fixing up infinite
Totally agree. I have been playing Halo since CE, and loved it. I turned 30 5 days ago, and life's been good. Halo is definitely a part of it, I am sad to see it in the state it is in, but I believe it's time to move on. Remember the good old days.
Happy birthday!
@@BrokenCircle1 Thank you, Broken Circle! :)
Remember the good old days, remember reach
You can buy out an IP or company, make a garbage product, and still profit. However, each time it happens, you use up a reserve of nostalgia and goodwill. Each mistake added creates a pattern of behavior. And 343 has shown us three successively worse games. They used up almost all the goodwill. So many mergers and buyouts are murdering good stories because businesses don't seem to realize that they can't downgrade products and keep the profits indefinitely
Well said. Thanks for watching.
This, way more succinct that my rambling ass
Based, yeah infinite was the last straw for me
Same here. @@lewis5211
@@BrokenCircle1 dude you’ve earned my sub, you share a lot of the same opinions as me, especially your vid on the pierres statement, i thought the literal exact same thing as you, “epic stories” could mean live service story or anything
Split screen co-op is the whole reason why I bought this game.
Woops!
@@BrokenCircle1 yeah lol, I still haven’t played the campaign. I need to get around to that.
@@flyingfoox1365 it’s pretty fun, not perfect but feels like halo
It’s the reason I wanted to play CE with my older cousins in 2001.
@@Riorozen do not tell me you think halo five is better then infnite
“All they needed to do the whole time was make Halo 3.5” is the most efficient, compact, holistic statement that encompasses everything that has gone wrong since 343 took over.
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Yep. Simple fucking decision. I don’t want a cod clone I wanna to play Halo for a few matches then switch to cod for a few matches. WHY ARE THEY THE SAME?!?!?!?
The Master chief went from an Icon in the industry to "hey, its the guy from Fortnite!"
Biggest downgrade in human history.
If that is not the funnyest description of 343s fumble i dont know what is.
If I was a producer in the animation industry and told people that I was gonna purposely hire 3D animators (looking specifically for ones who hate 2D) to work on a 2D show and with a proprietary software that's a work in progress... I would get thrown out of the nearest window! But for some reason the gaming industry Keeps doing this crap! IE: Being a contrarian to appear like you're taking risks, while at the same time still doing the same thing everyone else is doing... only worse... Remember Lawbreakers?
Yeah but unfortunately like you said they just follow what everyone else is doing. I am unfamiliar with Lawbreakers so I cannot comment on that. Thank you for watching and taking the time to share.
omg just the words lawbreakers, dug deep into a part of my mind I had completely forgotten about.
As someone who got into Halo back when the Fridge X released back in 2020 it makes me kinda sad that I missed out on the golden age of Halo
Dont worry, you can atill play mcc now and see how it is,not to mention veterans play there so theyll tell you those times with friends 4 split screen coop crazy moments and so on
@@nicolae-alexandruluca7853 It isn't really the same tho. Sure I had fun playing thru the dope single player campaigns + halo 4, but multiplayer wise not only was it taking an eternity to find a match, but I was pretty much up against veteran e-sport players.
I remember sitting in my friends house when I was younger and I would play halo reach on his 360. I only had a Wii at the time. But now that I look back on it and that I have the MCC version, I wish I could have had a few more minutes in with my friend’s 360 and on reach… sometimes you have to live in the moment not knowing that 20 years down the road it will be considered ancient.
Man… Halo CE was the game that got me into gaming. I remember playing all the campaigns with my dad split screen, Halo 3 and Reach during their peak player counts, all the hype and vidocs and amazing trailers as they released.. it’s such a shame that all of those things were washed away by a studio that had no intention of keeping those memories going. Your comment is heartbreaking because Halo used to be an icon in gaming, it used to set trends, it was once so many people’s favorite franchise so to see people say things like this and see the state of the franchise now really makes me wish for days past.
Been with this franchise since ‘02. I totally agree with everything you said as upsetting as it is. 343/Microsoft ran their flagship into the ground and with the current state of 343 I don’t see how they’ll be able to turn things around in a timely manner.
During infinite’s development I read countless comments of people saying things like, “This is the last chance I’m giving 343 to make a great Halo game.” or, “If 343 messes up Infinite, I’m done with Halo.” It feels like the majority of people stayed true to their word seeing the decline in population and relevance this game has now. I swear, if it wasn’t for the several big name Halo CZcamsrs and awesome/passionate community holding on for dear life, this game would be done for. I haven’t played infinite or MCC in over a year and don’t have any desire to return anytime soon :/
Also, I’m sure these people are nice and decent people in real life, but I absolutely cannot stand Bonnie, Kiki, and Frank. I have been preaching for YEARS about their level of incompetence and how they needed to be replaced. I understand, that there are a million moving pieces involved in making a game, and know that not every single mistake isn’t their fault. But you can’t tell me that after all these years the countless major missteps taken with this franchise doesn’t fall on them.
Last thing, FU** Kiki Wolfkill for signing off on that ABYSMAL script for the Halo TV series. That RIGHT THERE proves my point how she wasn’t the right person for the job. There’s no way someone who truly understands Halo and it’s characters would look at that script and think that it’s the right call. No way! Thanks Kiki (and Frank), great job! 👍🏻
Actually there is some evidence (allegedly, I have to say ALLEGEDLY) that Frank is a HORRIBLE person IRL.
Also as for the other two I really get the vibe they weren't hired because they were qualified. It really seems like Microsoft was trying to tick off a box.
Good to have an old veteran amongst us, indeed too bad that 343 show such incompetence or lack of care, if they cared then the money would be rolling in hard
It's incredibly disheartening because not only did Microsoft do this to their flagship series, but they did it to their second most important IP (Gears of War) as well. They ran the two biggest Xbox IPs into the ground as hard as they could.
Fully agree with everything you said.
Assuming the Activision buyout goes through Halo is gonna be even more irrelevant as COD will replace Halo as Xbox's shooter money maker.
I think what Halo needs is to be put on ice and then brought back by another studio, and hopefully, in the future, we can look back at 2012 to 2024 as "the dark age of Halo"
Yeah that might be good, if they do that I hope most of 343s story gets retconned heavily if not entirely.
@@BrokenCircle1 Imo. The best move would be to do a Halo CE remake in the style of Resident Evil 2, 3, 4. As that would allow the new studio to understand what makes a good Halo game.
@@BrokenCircle1 I agree with you fully there. Just completely ignore the ridiculous amount of plot threads and mechanics picked up and dropped by 343 in their attempt at chasing trends, as well as Frank O'Connor's mutilation of the original Forerunner lore.
@@joshuavidrine889 Frank O' Connor is a disgusting individual. Not only with what he has done with the lore but there are also some other things that have been alleged against him.
@@BrokenCircle1 frank O'Connor is a pervert who said working at 343 was like working at a porn studio, he got sexually excited everyday at the thoughts of working with Bonnie Ross kiki Wolf and others
Completely agree, for the first time since halo 3 I won’t be buying a halo game on launch after the shambles and half baked games 343 just continue to produce. It’s a shame because I love this franchise and also played CE on the original Xbox as a kid and now it’s just a disappointment compared to its glory days. Apart from halo 4 no 343 story campaign has had a finish or conclusion. They don’t even know how to end their games. Goodbye Halo, you made a promise, you didn’t keep it.
Well said! Thanks for watching.
Its not the game that failed to keep its promise, its the developer that made it
Its sad...Halo was THE FPS juggernaut... now.
Back on base in Afghanistan we had X boxes and one of the games were allowed to play but not online was halo the game helped us forget and feel normal like I said we couldn’t go online for security reasons, but we can play the campaign over and over and over again It’s sad to see a company will destroy something that means so much to somebody. I’ll never buy another halo game again.
Crazy how a game like CS:GO stuck to its roots and is only getting more popular.
It's called "finding a niche" and it's a business tactic that goes back as far as businesses have existed. If you make a diluted product that aims to appeal to everyone, it will get an equally diluted response. Sure you cast a wide net, but that net is very weak and most people will go "eh, cool I guess." and not really become a loyal customer. If you instead focus on making a REALLY strong experience for a specific audience, that smaller audience will be enthralled by your product and come back for more, which overall generates MORE money, nevermind a more satisfied customer base.
You're expressing all the thoughts that exist in my mind honestly. So I don't got too much to add there.
I do like your brash head-on takes no less, it's better than all this copium in the community.
But alas, I agree with you completely. I've been saying this for years. I just want Halo to be dead already. This is like seeing someone or something close to you dying and someone keeps trying to prolong their suffering. Just put it to rest so I can move on.
The mentality I carry with this is, I genuinely would much rather prefer holding a bitter sweet memory of a game I cherished behind me as opposed to my last memories being how much I hated what it became. The idea that I have to associate Halo with stress and grief whenever I think about it saddens me as I grew up with this series as it released. I can say the same for many a franchise but I'm sure you understand the sentiment here.
Thank you for the kind words. Funny you should mention the something close to you. I actually had something very similar in the script that got cut.
Yeah it sucks like I used to love Halo 3. One of my all time top games. Then 343 ruined the multiplayer with the broken ass hit detection on MCC (that is still broken BTW 8 YEARS LATER)
At this point I'm gonna try to forget 343 Halo exists. I'm just gonna say Halo ended in 2010 with a controversial but ultimately satisfying title.
The only thing that will revive halo is a game in an alternate story where noble 6 survived and got stranded in Reach trying to survive the covenant
I guess that could be interesting though I personally wouldn't like to see that. Seems a bit to far fetched for me but to each their own.
Some guy made a fanfiction where Nocle 6 doesn’t die and ends up waking up on Sauria/Dinosaur Planet from Star Fox and having a relationship with Krystal (the blue fox lady with the tribal bikini). He even went around Deviantart and had multiple people made Noble 6 x Krystal fan art😂. The guy’s kind of a weird but he hasn’t done anything wrong so don’t go after him. Honestly, that’s my head canon because it’s so funny. Just imagine if 343 canonized that🤣
@@shreksnow1918 That's gonna be a no for me lol
Ya. It's sad.
Yeah it really is. Thanks for watching.
It's very sad to see halo die like this. I would have rather had everything end with reach.
Halo will only be remembered as a joke. 343 industries killed halo.
Very true. I'm at the point where I am about to only consider Bungie era stuff canon.
343 did what Haze, Killzone, and Resistance Fall of Man all failed to do.
@@shreksnow1918 Yes very good point, I remember Haze.
@@shreksnow1918 343 is the true halo killer.
I would have said halo committed suicide but 343 never made anything that resembled halo either....
You know, this video made me realize something...
Microsoft is killing it and is ready to replace it with COD. If buying Activision Blizzard goes well for them, I must admit seeing my favorite IPs getting spit on and dying, really pushes me to develop Project: Crossover further. It just gives me a fire of motivation inside to keep going; well, I'm somewhat surprised by that. At least Godzilla ain't going to die like these IPs since Japan seems to be immune to the woke mind virus.
I'll keep going with Project: Crossover, thanks for the video, we live in a time where the Woke Mind virus' and greedy companies destroying our loved series' and characters. I want this project to keep going for me, and... well again, I expect most people not to care, so I will move on, hope you enjoy this comment and reply, and I seen your Halo book video, that's what I'm watching right now, lol. Anyways enjoy.
Thanks for the kind words. What is this Project: Crossover?
I want ID Software to make a Halo game that will destroy all the competition
its been the end years ago
Bro when you said that Halo got you through some tough times, I felt that it really touched home. Playing halo was my getaway from bullying, no friends, suffering from acne and many things. Hell I can say that it kept me from using drugs and being outside gang banging. And to see what it’s become now it’s heartbreaking honestly.
I get it. My teenage years weren't easy. I'll spare you the pity story but Halo was all I had at one point and all I looked forward to.
At one point looking forward to Halo 4 was literally the only thing that kept me going. Boy was I disappointed when it came out but at least things got a little bit better by then.
Thanks for watching.
I feel like this comment, right here, is pretty much is a counterclaim of that "video games causing violence" claim, since it does the opposite just from mentioning of the game keeping him from bullying and gang banging outside.
I wish I could just go back to 2001 and play Halo for the first time all over again. Then once Bungie left I’d just ignore 343. They haven’t even managed to capture a fraction of the magic Halo used to create. 343 is just a company that can’t do anything right.
As far as anything official goes the franchise is almost certainly a corpse. Thankfully now that MCC is on pc with mod support it will be able to stay alive the same way Half Life did through constant user generated content. Hopefully Digsite (restoring cut content for modders to use) is still happening, but that’s a bit of a stretch since a good chunk of 343 has been canned.
I remember I was one of the people who got duped into thinking Infinite would be great because the marketing was going strong, they reverted the art style and gave us the best of both world as far as gameplay was concerned, and a lot of the people I watched were hyping it up. I had a lot of fun playing the game, but it got repetitive after a while and I haven’t touched it since I beat the game. If Firefight comes back I’ll reinstall the game because I’m a weirdo who mostly just cares about PvE instead of the multiplayer. I’ve seen some really cool stuff made with the new custom games and Forge mode (there’s all kinds of INSANE maps). Unfortunately, the game still lacks so much that’s needed to keep the thing alive. Some people have said it could turn around like what happened with MCC, but that wouldn’t be for several years. It’s basically dead as far as mainstream appeal is.
In order to save the thing you’d probably need to reboot the series with a CE remake akin to what we got with Dead Space and Resident Evil where it takes what works from across the series and uses that as a base to recreate the game. If done right that would be great. But I simply do not trust 343 to do that.
One thing about Infinite I think we can all agree is great is the fact that shock weapons allow you to “zap to the extreme” like Sonichu. Honestly this franchise would’ve been in better hand if Chris Chan and Jacob Sockness were both running it😂
I'm not sure who the Jacob guy is, nor am I familiar with Sonichu.
I never liked the shock weapons, they make vehicles useless in BTB.
I too enjoy the PvE modes alot, its one of the things that with Infinite lacking made me walk. I liked the gameplay of campaign for a bit but it got far too repetitive.
I see no hope with 343 but with the modding community… that’s different. There is still plenty of opportunities to reignite Halo CE-Reach for us. I’m grateful for the games we have but 343 is a mistake and deserves to be blacklisted from ever working on video games. Great vid, been playing some old games that are actually fun and I can see that it’s not nostalgia… the games back then were actually good.
YES It's definitely not nostalgia, the games then even the worst ones are better than alot of what comes out now. Recently been playing COD Ghosts a bit a game I HATED back in the day and while it has alot of BS it isn't an unfun experience. It has some cool moments.
The mods have potential but thus far I haven't seen any super groundbreaking. Mythic Firefight has to be the best I've seen but time will tell, I am optimistic for that.
Looking at the Halo 3 gameplay in the background I'm surprised how it still looks very good! PS great video
From the leak’s extraction is going to be the replacement for fire fight
3 of the six years was to modify the halo engine and the next 3 was the chaotic development of halo infinite
I recently noticed something ironic:
Bungie was able to take the leap, and kept bouncing back up, but 343 Guilty spark died from his own faults and arrogance.
Halo is the new Sonic:
An initially wildly successful franchise that suffered from pointless trend-chasing and poorly implemented mechanics where they weren't even needed in the first place.
Agreed, Reach was the end, and with the original servers dead the shoddy MCC servers or Custom Edition are the only ones left.
Yeah. Its a shame. I loved Halo 3. The old one. Not the MCC Halo 3. The hit detection and SBMM makes the whole thing just off.
@BrokenCircle1 and lack of pre and post game lobbies and map votings
@@unknownwill4th549 Good point.
It sucks, but I suppose I’d rather it rest than continue to be milked and bastardized forever.
Halo is not dead. The real halo went A-wall.
Bro, when you said "All they needed to do was make Halo 3.5".. that just hits so different. That's all I ever wanted.
it always shocks me how poorly 343 plans out their games. halo is so easy to make and i really think 343's problem is they have no idea who to make the game for. focusing on esports ruins everything and making the game as dull as it can be for new players is so lame
They focus on the lowest common denominator every time.
Both Halo 4 and 5 were trying to cater to the COD kids...not even the cool COD kids the literal worst of the worst. The MLG wannabes that never shower lol.
Infinite tried so hard to be Fortnite going free to play and all that crap.
They were unworthy of the Mantle.
I remember playing the old halo games with friends and having such a good time,i can forgive halo 4 being bad as it was 343's first attempt..then 2014 mcc which i can kinda forgive,i mean its like 7 games in 1 package I'm sure that's not easy to make and then halo 5 happened and it felt like they took all the criticism from halo 4 and went "fuck all that" and now halo infinite. I love the gameplay for halo infinite,i hate 343 being the way they are,no campaign dlc,a kinda mediocre campaign and now there's almost no hope for either in the future,i want halo to be as wonderful as it was in 2001-2010, i just don't think 343 can do it,so far in over a decade we've had 1 and a half good halo games, and one of those is halo wars 2
Halo 4 I can't really forgive because of the total lack of respect 343 showed. They changed EVERYTHING down to the basic art style and aesthetic of things all to 'make it their own'
Halo didn't belong to 343 it belonged to the fans and they totally disrespected that and worst of all they were straight up arrogant about it. They literally hired people who hated Halo to make Halo 4 all to try and cash in on that Call of Duty money.
We'll get things that are and continue to be painfully non-Halo because it's the latest moneymaking trend, and nobody will stop them. We'll get a battle royale before a finished game, we'll get random crossover skins, a la MCC, and a gutted and butchered version of what once was Halo's gameplay.
Yeah I read recently they are copying from I think it was Overwatch? I could be wrong on that last part but yeah. All they do is copy trends that are years old. Like I said I'm out.
I hope that other studios are given to the IP to have a go at something new.
@@Darren20122 If they gave Halo to another studio I would want to see a near total retcon of almost every thing 343 has done. Start us back at the end of Halo 3.
the Activsion buyout is why 343 got gutted, plus it wasn't just 343 who got gutted it was all of Microsoft
the only thing to look forward to in the franchise is fan projects and mods.
I feel like all that can save Halo now besides fan projects is just going dormant and making a comeback years later as DOOM did
You may be right.
Yep, It's over. I just wish they could have left Halo alone sooner, we really didn't need THAT TV series.
Yes for sure, the bad part is as far as I know they're still making a second season. Hopefully the last one. I hate everything about that show.
You just have to look back at Halo and think about the good times and memories and smile. There is nothing we can do about the current state of things, I loved Halo and started playing around 2010 when Reach came out I was only 9 or 10 at that time. But to play a game for 10 or more years of you're life and remember the vibrancy and player base there once was and see that then reduced to nothing is very sad. I remember in the final weeks on Reach before Halo 4's release there was 300,000-500,000 players at one time in the player count box. Back then in 2012 that was alot of people for Xbox 360. But yeah it's all gone now but hey it is what it is. The times I played Halo and completed multiple different Legendary campaigns and grinded achievements was some of the best times of my life I was very proud of what I achieved it was an awesome escape from life at that age but again such is life.
Step 1. Halo 3 anniversary engine
Step 2 build a massive gigantic forge world battle royale map. Super customization everything, every game type ever, every option,
Reach quality file share and theatre mode. Forge every game type equipment weapon and vehicles etc
Done
Let the community do the rest
Fully agree with everything you said. It pains me to see Halo in this state. But I kept my expectations low with 343 at the helm of Infinite. Even so I couldn't have prepared for this level of disappointment. 343, despite what anyone says, does not and never did have a vision for Halo. They just wanted another money making machine. Halo has always been about the single player for me. And the direction they took the lore in was just inexplicably moronic. I thought with a Bungie era employee still in play, they would do the franchise justice but Frank O' Connor turned out to be the biggest twat of them all.
Even with their history, the Infinite announcement trailer gave me some hope with the return to original art style and the music. But as the game drew closer to launch, it became abundantly clear to me that this was going to be as horrible as the previous 2 games.
And you hit the nail on the head, Frank O'Connor, Kiki Wolfkill and Bonnie Ross should be banned from working in this industry ever again ! I would also like to add Brian Reed to that list.
The Halo CZcamsrs like UberNick, Mint Blitz, Harsupis and others who praise 343 for doing the bare minimum a year after the game has launched is just so annoying. The game launched in such a pathetic state with no credit system, no XP and a campaign that looked and felt like a beta. The story was so unconnected and pathetic. And anytime 343 pushed an update that was asked for by the fans from day 1, they treat it like some huge achievement for AAA studio. A studio who does not know their fans. These guys, if they called out 343 like MoistKritical did, would light a fire under them. But I think Microsoft is too consumed by greed anyways.
I am thankful for the modders who still make such amazing improvements to the trilogy. As far as I am concerned the series ended with Reach. Everything else is non canon for me.
Goodbye Halo.
Dont give up on the game that made your childhood, it never gave up on you and you shouldnt either. The halo franchise is in a serious bind i can see that but its also calling out to us, halo needs us its fans to help it out
Ironically it was the lore and story that was abandoned first - and last. Any game can be a boomershooter but the Halo story was what it was all about.
It's funny I remember when the new Halo came out everyone used to be super hyped to play the campaign...now its just overpriced DLC.
@@BrokenCircle1 There is one thing that I think can be "blamed", for want of a better term, on the fanbase.
It does seem like, at the least, they could have either finished Halo on Halo 3 and left things wide open for a future installment, or let Halo 4 be the finale.
But sometimes it feels like the fanbase gets eager for a new episode because Halo is an important part of their life. And for many, it was either helping them in the trials of growing up - for those with a hard life - or perhaps represented simpler times.
In other words, depending on which release they jumped in, they want to be that same kid who was playing Halo CE, or 2, or Reach, etc.
Sad part is, that person is gone. They will never feel the same way they felt before, even if Infinite had everything everybody ever wanted and was perfect in every way. It's impossible. Nobody can "go home" as is said. I see the same thing happening with long-playing MMOs like WoW and Eve Online. The bitter vets will always be bitter, because the memory of the good times or the relief of escape are just out of reach - and it's not like life is better being older.
And this, I think, is what drives 343 to keep milking it; entirely driven by money. If they were true storytellers and fans of what they were creating they could maintain that love. Hopefully this is the end, not out of bitterness or disappointment, but to see people finally move on. Better things will come when we can let go.
@@DoktorJeep While that does play a part its just undeniable that what bungie created are better games than what 343 has made.
The time of fun and cool is over in most media in general. Everything is emotional, intimate, and or epic now. It doesn't appeal to me and isn't trying to.
And this is why, my dearest friend, that I have sworn to make it my life goal to learn how to code and program 3D. We need another bungie in disguise, and with this day and age’s sellers, all they want is to dig through your wallet, not for the game experience.
I miss the days before 343
Halo wasn’t really in decline until 343 took over reach was divisive but it didn’t cause a real decline.
It pains me to see Halo go like this. Halo 5 was the only shooter game I was allowed to play in 5th grade, and I just fell in love with the franchise from there. I never played COD, never got into R6S or anything. Halo 5 was my childhood, and MCC carried me all the way through COVID. I have played all the campaigns, spent well over a thousand hours controlling spartans on screen, and had some of the best days of my life at sleepovers up late playing forge in splitscreen Reach.
I never got into any other FPS games. I had a short stint at CS:GO, a bit of Valorant here and there, and I truly loved Doom: Eternal; yet none of these had quite the same taste, the same feeling, as Halo. I don't think I ever will. The closest I've ever gotten is Arma, which gives me the social fun aspect while sacrificing some of the high-octane gameplay you see in intense Halo matches and simply doesn't have any form of campaign. It's been a great eight years. But Halo is dying, and I can feel my enthusiasm for gaming slipping along with it. What was once a great passion and an integral part of my life is fading, and I am powerless to stop it.
Halo has been good to me. Time has come to let memories be memories.
That's an interesting perspective. Strange to see someone whos first game was Halo 5 agreeing that Halo is dying. Most people like that just get angry at me for pointing it out lol.
But yes I agree. Time to let the memories be memoires.
@@BrokenCircle1 Halo CE was my first introduction to halo as a kid, but it was on my older brothers console, and my parents didn’t want me playing it because it was apparently too violent. I still remember being confused as to white the ghost only hovered while the banshee flew.
My first Halo game was Halo 4. I’ll be honest, most of that game is a blur. I had also gotten a hold of Halo Reach and I had some of the best memories playing that. And as awful as Halo 5’s Campaign was, I think I put the most time of any halo game into Halo 5. This was also around the time I started watching halo CZcamsrs cover lore, and I loved it!
I never got to experience halo in its golden age, but even going through lore channels, old gameplay clips, and watching the cinematic campaigns as if I were watching a movie, I fell in love with the franchise.
And despite the content drought between halo 5 and Halo Infinite, I remember there was an abundance of halo CZcamsrs covering halo news and theories. Like the community actually felt alive and thriving.
The hype that surrounded Halo Infinite simply being announced was phenomenal, and felt like the franchise was about to return to the top of FPS.
Post Halo Infinite launched was possibly the worst experience I’ve ever had Halo. So much was missing, so much time spent waiting, all the while friends were leaving the game.
Halo CZcamsrs went from genuine content before Infinite, to quick, sensationalized videos to compensate for the lack of content to cover. Sean W and HaloFollower are two channels that completely shifted their content to being more sensationalized and less genuine. But eventually, most channels, even the ones who stayed true to their authenticity, either stopped covering Halo, and hardly posted as regularly as they did.
It’s one thing when I feel apathy for a game that I loved, but when I see genuine CZcamsrs with channels dedicated to Halo, and whom grew up with the franchise far longer than myself, just look so disappointed and defeated, it’s just depressing.
@@samuelgiroux6819 Yeah I can understand that.
But man if you think the Halo community seemed alive from 2015-2020 oh man...you did say you never got to experience it during its glory days.
2015-2020 kind of sucked for Halo, it was far better than what it is now but it wasn't great. I don't even know how to explain Halo before that during the old days, it was something you had to experience.
I remember going to a baseball game in New York when I was a kid in the mid 2000s...this was a time before video games were as main stream as they were today and they played the Halo 2 theme over the loadspeakers when people were walking into the stadium. That's how big Halo used to be.
I remember lines used to form with people camping in tents to pre order Halo 3 and Reach.
It used to be everyone had Halo and during the Bungie days with OG Reach there was a ranking system that had normal military ranks until you got really high up in rank you got titles like 'Eclipse, Inheritor, and Forerunner' it was truly amazing. I've never understood why 343 got rid of that.
Ah well. Thanks for watching and taking the time to share your experience.
@@BrokenCircle1 Yeah like I said, I never got to experience the golden years of Halo. I watch older videos highlighting the release of halo titles, and it’s just feels surreal. To the point that even though I never experienced it myself, it still gives a feeling of nostalgia. It’s like arriving late to the party, and the climax of it all is nothing but distant memories and clips. Kinda like Halo Infinite’s campaign, where everything exciting happened offscreen already and in audio logs.
From my perspective, Halo 4/5 was really all I had to go off in regards to what an active halo community felt like. But I guess my point lies in the fact that someone like myself, who grew up with 343i Halo, recognizes the irrelevance of the franchise as it stands now.
Ive always been on Halo 4's side, as i enjoyed its concentration on Chief and Cortana's relationship. Particularly, it also explores OUR relationship with the Chief. For years, we've been experiencing the Human-Covenant War much like him--a badass, bullet-slinging super soldier doing everything in his power to give humanity a fighting chance. In Halo 4, we see him struggle to understand what he is without that conflict, when the people he fought to protect have learned to protect themselves--when he's become outdated--all punctuated with the loss of his last true close friend, Cortana. Not to mention, in universe developments post-war held intrigue and possibility, primarily the fractured subfactions of the Covenant vying for power, the last terrible vestiges of the Forerunner's legacy becoming an issue with the Didact, and the UNSC's place in a humanity not at threat of annihilation to justify their existence. Plus, the new tech looked cool as hell, and I had fun with the multiplayer. It wasnt perfect, but i could still taste some amount of passion remaining in its devs, passion that inspired likewise within me and my friends to see where this new age of Halo would go.
But it's undeniable that this was probably the peak of 343's abilities and, while I adored 4, it shouldn't have been the company's best. MCC, 5 and finally Infinite showed time and again that they were not up to snuff with the quality we knew, no matter how many chances we gave them. And so intrigue into new stories, new characters and new frontiers became regret and spite for confused messes trying to ride the next gaming trend or the old Halo nostalgia. Retcons, bad business practices and messy writing are but a few damning pieces of blame 343 has to bear. Infinite was the first time I gave up on halo. Ive been a fan since i was a kid, my sister too and my dad. It was one of my first games and I was enamored from the start. So to go from an unshakeable fan to writing off Halo as a viable series...man, it felt like my childhood dog died. Then, you have the Halo TV series making a further mockery of the universe, just to rub salt in the wound.
343 didnt just run Halo into the ground, they desecrated everything that it was--both to its fans and to the gaming genre in general. Halo was one of the early kings of gaming, and now it'll fade into obscurity because its legacy was torn to shreds and dragged through the mud. And I'm sad to say I see this as a trend in gaming recently. Alongside 343, you have all these gaming giants becoming, at best, mid. Blizzard is a joke compared to its early reputation--it's fumbled Warcraft, Diablo, Heroes of the Storm and Overwatch like a toddler in the Superbowl. If epic failure really isn't your taste, then you have AAA studios settling with mediocrity to rake in the dough with little effort. CoD has always been the butt of this joke, but it's hard not to see why, when each subsequeny title tries less and less to distinguish itself from the others and, more importantly, to justify you buying it. And the Pokemon franchise, one of the highest selling franchises in the world, is putting out half-baked games with barely any optimization and quality control. On the general, games are being released unfinished, riddled with bugs and glitches that need day one patches to function. I mean, just this year you have Redfall and the Lord of the Ring: Gollum, some of the absolute bottom of the barrel, mobile-game ass things to be released. It's a shitshow. And yes, while we have gems still presenting themselves, like Tears of the Kingdom and Deep Rock Galactic, the gaming genre has on average declined in quality and competitive drive that made games interesting: I'd rather we return to an age where competition forced games to experiment to make their mark, even if they failed. I only somewhat hesitate to declare this era as a Dark Age of Gaming, only because of the dramaticness of it.
Tl;dr 100% agree 343 shit the bed with their treatment of Halo and its fans, and it feels more and more that this is becoming a genre-wide trend of releasing buggy and uninteresting schlock in the pursuit of easy money.
I was done with halo when I realised 343 retconned the forerunners into a different alien species. They are humans ffs. How was this crap ever given the go ahead?
@@brianmckee2267 yeah that confused me for a while, I didn't figure out it was a retcon for years and just thought the lore with the forerunners was stupid and needlessly complex. They go through a lot of effort to establish the forerunners as ancient humans in the original trilogy
343i is quite literally the Titanic of the AAA gaming industry
While yes 343 destroyed halo, I still think the story should have ended at Halo 3, it was the perfect send off for the franchise (halo reach was great too but that was a prequel so I won't count it)
I totally agree with you on this topic. 343i has done a lot of mistakes and misdeeds for the past 11 years that I would quit the franchise as a whole. I still have hope for halo now that Pierre is leading the industry. I can see the results are sorta of improving ever the launch of infinte. You have to remember that Pierre was the one who revived halo mcc into the state it is in now. I have to say Iv been playing mcc for over 3 years and still having fun with the progress system,challenges,weekly game modes. I still wish that mcc would make some game types permit like for instance mulite team,team snipers,griftball,and recon slayer. With season 4 on the horizon bringing back infection and new progress system. Halo is slowly going towards the right direction.
My problem with Pierre is he was also in charge of MCC during the time they were looking to add microtransactions to it. Not sure if that was his call or not but still.
Also H3 hit detection on there is still atrocious 8 years later as is the SBMM as well as other things so I don't have much hope there.
@@BrokenCircle1 my problem with people like broken circle is they stay stay unreasonably mad about actions that never even happened. It was considered sure but it never even came to fruition yet you are rage baiting all over the internet about it
@@stormbreaker7373 OOOO BOOM ROASTED AND NAME DROPPED.
I am shattered to my core.
Based fire and blacklist everyone at 343, thats the least microsoft should do for us, the fans.
A fair amount of the underlings are just wage slaves/contractors. The leadership and various middle managers are the ones who deserve that treatment.
This video makes me soooo sad brother.... but you said everything what is in my mind and its all true😭 #rememberhalo
It was sad to make it to be honest. Thanks for watching.
Microsoft's disgusting declaration of "343 Industries is essential to Halo." is all they had to say, I jumped off the pelican after I gave Halo 4 a chance, but so long as 343 Industries is in in charge, Halo is on some desperate, sickening life support.
Reach was truly the end of Halo, a great send off, bittersweet, yet Bungie clearly demonstrated their vision, commitment, and love for not only Halo, but the fanbase they cultivated. As a decade of degradation and decline is all 343 Industries have given us, "343 hasn't EARNED Halo." rings true and louder every passing day.
Thanks for taking the time to make a video like this, I dont like to accuse any fanbase of "Copium" but the insane defense of 343 Industries and Microsoft that has spouted up over the years can certainly make one question if such a thing exists.
Thank you for the kind words. Yeah some people in here are really high on that copium. I made them very angry apparently lol
Kiki Halokill and Bonnie Dross will be remembered as the people who ruined a great franchise.
Don't forget Frank the Plank! :D
its estimated that Halo Infinite had a 500 Million dollar budget... ALMOST DOUBLE what it cost to make GTA 5.. let that sink in for a moment...
Yeah that's sad. I mean it makes sense when it took 6 years to make and all the different people they had on it.
Way too many cooks in the kitchen.
Actually leaks confirm that 343 is bringing PvE and AI to Forge in the future. However I bet that won’t bring alot of people back.
I don't feel guilty for still liking and playing Halo to this day to be honest.
Nor should you. I'm not knocking anyone for still playing these games or enjoying them by all means to each their own. However it is undeniable that the franchise is in a state of disarray and the quality and tone of the games has been drastically changed.
Honestly if a new company bought Halo I say start where Reach left off and expand on that not Halo 4 or 5 and maybe infinite
agreed but halo 5's movement and map design was actually very well thought out imo, the problem of course is that it plays nothing like halo
I think the biggest thing that differentiates 343 from bungie is that bungie was so skilled and relented with their coding and developing of the game, that they had the time and freedom to fuck around exploring new ideas and concepts. (Sprint in halo 2, firefight, all the wacky game modes
And so much more, even skyboxes when you compare them to 343s lazy and drab generic vistas. Then you have 343 which is so overwhelmingly incompetent that they fall behind on development and don’t even have enough time to push out the stuff that bungie would’ve done in the first year as a base before injecting their creativity and brainstorming into. 343 just simply doesn’t have any mental or emotional connection to halo simply because it isn’t their invention and they shouldn’t have inherited it. They halo fandom can be a bit overly sensitive of the games but that’s because we knew it was something special and that the team that worked on it went the extra mile each release to drop something truly unique and different and you could just feel the soul oozing out of the scenery and visuals of the games alone. 343 doesn’t have this. There’s a saying that a box handcrafted with love and care can give off an unmistakable aura of warmth, while a box made artificially will give off an aura of cold and discomfort, and the latter really does fit well with 343 industries handling of a once loved IPs legacy. All I gotta say is fuck anyone at the top echelon of the decision making for halo nowadays, you all are worse than useless in the eyes of the fans from the glory days
Well said. I recently noticed something looking at a picture of the 343 devs on their website, it was a group photo and I noticed unlike old Bungie the vast majority of 343 devs look quite young and inexperienced. I also have an inkling many of them were hired for the wrong reasons, that is speculative but there is some evidence to support that.
Halo infinite and tears of the kingdom took the same amount of time to develop. It is sad that halo infinite is vastly inferior to Zelda tears of the kingdom instead of equaling it.
RIP halo
I'll be saving Hyrule.
There are alot of games out there that took the same amount or less time to develop than Infinite yet come out vastly superior.
Love the honesty, bro. Subscribed.
I’ll just play the Bungie halos… goodbye halo thanks for all the good memories Bungie
"Remember Reach" is no longer even a tagline. It's a reality
Lol very true. I will remember Reach though. Reach was the last Halo game in my mind at this point. Anything else after that was just low quality fanfiction.
@BrokenCircle1 it brought me so many good memories. As flawed as it is, it had so much to offer. I remember how my friends would always yell:
"Oh, N1ght Blade", every time I would snipe someone. How people would always try to get the sniper away from me if at all possible because people knew how lethal I was with it.
I remember teaching someone how to use a sniper accurately nd then he ended up being even better with it than I was (and I can't even tell you how proud that made me)... so many fond memories of that game.
A lot of og fans' online experience started with Halo 3. Mine was Reach. And I will always cherish and love it for what it gave me. Except MCC Reach. That doesn't feel like Reach at all somehow
Also, just wondering, what do you consider making content on now apart from the occasional Halo stuff?
I have two Stalker videos in the works (if you haven't played those games you're missing out) as well as alot of other stuff. I have a list of about 40 ideas on my phone.
@@BrokenCircle1 I might check it out sometime, but I just got a different game soooo
@@seanhyland2022 What game?
@@BrokenCircle1 Battlefield 1. Got it free but I don't want to overload myself.
BF1 is a fantastic game! You're in for a treat!
Technology has no doubt gotten better for gaming but it hasnt made it better. Games used to have heart to them. Now devs get bossed around by people who have no idea what they are talking about, all they see is the $$. Unfortunately gaming, not all but a lot, has been ruined. Fromsoftware is one of the few developers I fuck with at this point
Don't let the Spartan IV PFPs see this lol
I always get a few of those that get angry at me. Let them come. More watch time for me lol
I do hope someone else buys Halo and makes it a huge hit again. Imagine the reaction in Microsoft and 343i if some no-name company (or even _Bungie_ ) buys it from them for cheap and releases a new Halo game and the world treats it like the return of Jesus, totally overshadowing anything being released by Microsoft.
No Bungie. Look at them now with Destiny 2 and the planned Marathon. They aren't the same studio they used to be anymore.
I am not defending 343, but for me Halo 4 was good. It felt, like reborn as should. Halo 5 was very cool to play online, but infinite... Its cool to play, but there is no content
It’s sad but I think you’re completely right. However, maybe a battle royale could save Halo. I feel like if they revamped everything and just followed in the footsteps of Reach in terms of features and accessibility along with co-developing a battle royale- it could put Halo on the map again.
Halo 4 didn’t deserve all the hate it got. They tried something different, and it didn’t work out, but it was still fun and it was still Halo.
Of all the 343 games Halo 4 did feel the most like Halo I'll give you that. However...when you inherit something that is coveted by many you don't 'try something different'
Imagine an elder family member owns a 1967 Chevy. Upon their passing they give it to you. You then paint it matte baby puke green to 'try something different' and your family is understandably upset with you. Then you refuse to talk to them because you say they're being 'too negative'.
That's basically what 343 did with Halo 4.
I don't understand how no other developer can make a game like halo. Just use different armor styles and come up with a protagonist like master chief and make aliens similar to the covenant. It would make a killing. Especially if fun is prioritized with custom games and all that.
Here’s to the memories my man. May the sacred rings rest.
I would fine if there were no more games maybe even books, because while yes I would be sad I cant trust 343i to make another game, and also I believe that halo was a product of it's time and perhaps it wouldn't fit into todays modern gamimg lanscape. I think that a small crew should be assigned to maintaining MCC sort of like a museum of past games and provide updates and fix problems.
Like in popularity compared to the old titles, sucks for everybody because that is a determinate factor for succed, but with the community mods and the really huge love that many people have for this franchise, i think that right now in the modern gaming is in a good place, activity, community, and passion sufficient to be in that spot, many people right now can play the old games from a really easy and nearly perfect versions for this games, there is a true aprecciation that is gonna last long thanks to it that's for sure, that is from that side.
The other thing is bussiness and infinite, i don't think that from 343 halo is in an really awful scenario in the moment like everyone is saying, and that is because one of the main problems that the franchise had with 343, was the awful managment and how many times they were incompetent in directives, the game was in a really good way for the mayority of people, the huge concern was that is unfinished for content in the story mode and multiplayer, and the reasons for that were all of them the fault for planing everything bad, but with the changes from that department, setting mostly people that had a good record and that the important one have demonstrated true great job that required a good understanding in what the people wanted and directing it from that way, i think that now is for the leasted in decents hands from the direction guys of the company. And sorry if this is petty, but come on guys from all the companies that want money like crazy, microsoft is not gonna let go his main reconisable franchise because they had a huge fuck up with a game, and its to late in the industry to give the main things of the franchise to another studio and also its nearly an imposible job for circuntances to find and or charge the right developer for the job, nobody in market is gonna let go opportunity to not try again, because infinite in one point had like a million players and was beloved in many aspects that they had finally accomplished a formula that a random that will not notice to capitalize on it again making sure that is the right opportunity since that stroke, the marketing of modern xbox is competent enough to know that. That are my reasons why halo for now is not dying, is just in really bad times but no in the type of decaying himself.
Just one more point, 8:27 that thing really far from what is happening right now with halo, because to go with saturating the franchise with that example, you need to have way more games from the 2 that have sinse halo 5, and for quality alone people can say that the games suck but chip produced they aren't, there are many signs of middle or huge production in them and well developed enough in areas of the games specially in infinite.
When you think about it right halo reach was the last fully complete featured halo game. Halo reach released September 14, 2010 time flies. I don’t think 343 can make a fully complete featured halo game.
Death doesn't always come so quickly
I heard husky raid was coming,just another game from h5.great video I'm one of the old guard as well 👍
Husky raid? What is that?
@@BrokenCircle1 basically a long tunnel with a flag at both ends or curved tunnel great fun lots of kills 😀
Fiesta on steroids
Bruh I just want to buy the Mega construx sets
Good luck finding them...they're never in stock anywhere and when they are they're super over priced.
@@BrokenCircle1 I know. I still try to collect em best I can
Been waiting for the plug to be pulled since halo 4. Already gone through that grief and just waiting for it to finally happen. still play the bungie games.
Yeah sadly I was holding out hope for far too long. First it was MCC then Halo 5 was supposed to be good then Infinite. I'm out.
It's laughable to me that after all this time people still defend 343.
Halo went from a franchise that set the standard for console FPS games that have been copied to this day (2-weapon limits, grenades/melee as a button press rather than a separate weapon, aim assist, regenerating health, etc.), raised the bar with each entry (i.e. introducing community-made content via Forge WAY ahead of the curve), etc. to a generic trend-chaser slopfest that regresses each game, trying to chase some different popular-at-the-time thing. ("Ooooh COD is popular, let's do that!" = Halo 4, "OHHH Titanfall is the big new thing, people want ADHD parkour shooters!" = Halo 5, "No no no, I got it this time guys, what people want is an open-world ubisoft game with bandit camps and other generic slop, with a live-service multiplayer!" = Halo (In)finite.)
Halo's death and the butchering of it's lore is perhaps the greatest tragedy of gaming history. "The bigger they are, the harder they fall."
Well said.
Thank you for saying all this. I wish Microsoft and Xbox hear this truth.
Reading the comments make me feel that I am in the company of Halo friends. Everybody has a same feeling. Every true fan feels disappointed. My love for Halo started with Halo CE and I feel sad to see the game in this state. Only Bungie can revive it.
Thank you for watching though I have to respectfully disagree with Bungie reviving it. Ever since the first Destiny Bungie has gotten worse and worse and I think in alot of ways they are pretty bad. Not nearly as bad as 343 but I don't think modern Bungie is what Halo needs.
@@BrokenCircle1 You may be right about Bungie but the game will definitely be better than what we have now.
Man didn't even mention season 2 of the Halo TV show. This will surely save the franchise.
Wasn't worth mentioning. I hope that show gets canceled.
I still pretty new to playing HALO, but I have been into the franchise one way or another since 2013-2014, I've read, books, fanfic, gameplay, etc.
I though HALO infirite could be a fresh new start, considering all the good elements, free roam, and other things. But after watching the a few clips of the NEW HALO show, I think I'm.
However, I do find comfort and contentment in the lore, fanfics, and HALO 4. I think its ending sums up MCC rather well.
If Activision buys HALO and makes some games that take place before the HUMAN-Covenant war like the Insurrection I think that's worth a look
when i think of halo infinite i think we would have been better off still getting updates for halo 5 mainly because we got updates for it like almost every month and the weapon sandbox was huge with different variants of all weapons and a feature letting you mix a grenade launcher with the rocket launcher plus forge was really fun when 343 put out custom browser helped me make alot of good friends that i still talk to today and in my opinion halo is not dead yet since we still have people making animation, art, mods and overall stuff that has to do with halo but i think what really would get people talking and playing halo alot more would be giving the halo ip back to bungie in hopes that we get much better games from them or giving the halo ip to a more beloved studio that would give more love to the franchise than 343 ever could
Last comment, but whats even more disturbing is that they market the game entirely on the campaign. Thats how they sell Halo. But then they fire most of the campaign team and focus only on the multiplayer? Its all a money grab and its really sad to see it happening to a franchise with unlimited potential. I honestly think making a dev company to bring back the roots of gaming could be a solid move in todays market. Will it be harder to make money? Yes. But i believe that if you put out games that you truly love that arent just a money grab, people will respond to it and it could be very successful. Not every single thing in life has to be about money. Of course you have to at least break even but idk man it feels like nothin in this world has genuine heart in it anymore
At least Playground and Coalition aren't really fucking up as hard as 343, there's still hope for Forza and Gears.
I'm with you. They would have to reboot the series and who knows that will turn out. Even if they went back to the old formula, I just find it hard to believe they'd make it work. The story is done. It's over. I would love for Halo to be a great franchise again but, I've lost all hope. Halo 3 should've been it.
I would have been fine if they ended it at Reach.
Noooooo…. Master Chief forever! Older now and do not play live anymore, but I still love the campaign just to chill.
Still no score mode in story mode and never will be.
I didn't even think of that. Good point.
Halo rest in peace, you will be missed. ♥
You know back on the original Xbox and the 360 having split screen and having your buddies come over with their controllers and eating large quantities of Taco Bell what is the best way to start a Friday night all the way to Sunday with your friends Scouts playing halo fast forward over 10 years later, and the franchise and my friends. We all agree that it doesn’t feel the same anymore even though now we have our own lives, and some of us with families. It kind of kills it that when the very few times we do get around to hanging out together, we can’t play split screen anymore on the new halo games.
I do find it comical that alot of the 343 fans are very young children or manbabies that do nothing but game all day.
They been trash since they took over the franchise. Everything they touch is trash. They legit called the fanbase entitled, refused to change known gameplay that the audience did not want, and cannot for the love of God be able to have your gun shoot straight... They have such thin skin, they took down the forums page on HaloWay point because were getting LEGIT criticism that would make the game better and they banned the comment and the person for about a week. They are the worst devs of all time followed by activision with the terrible product Modern warfare 2 where you shoot people in the face and the shoot you in the arm and they kill you.....These modern games are so trash now.. I miss old games where the devs actually cared about the games and it wasnt a cash grab...
Glad I'm not the only one who remembers them calling fans entitled. I actually plan to make a future video compilation of all the times I can find where 343 employees act unprofessional and straight up rude to their customers.
@@BrokenCircle1 Literally!! Like the time when someone brought to the attention one of the dev's that hit detection wasnt working correctly and he started laughing....like...wat the actual hell is that... like you're game is not working and a game 20 years old works better than your current game, like its absolutely annoying. The only thing that will Protect Halo is the modders
@@iangilbertson3622 Stay tuned. I'll have a video on that soon.
Thinking about Halo just makes me sad. I played Reach-4 with my dad who isn't much of a gamer, hell he still has a hard time walking around, but when they said that they'll bring back splitscreen after 5 I was super excited for Infinite, we had the old armor, we had a new and arguably more interesting faction than Jul 'Mdama's Covenant (who they killed in a cutscene of all places!), and we were going to get an in depth armor customization! Only for all of it to be ripped from us. Splitscreen never came to be, even though it works via bugs, the faction I was so excited to face had its leader "die" off screen, only for it to turn out he was still alive (so that was pointless), and armor customization that is dependent on cores!? I'll admit I started Halo with 5 (as I was too young to experience the other titles), but rest assured I found the original titles a lot more fun, with that said though, I think I'm done. I'd rather play sins of the prophets, a mod to another game made by the Halo community rather than watch another Halo show, or play another game. It's sad, but the death of 343 may be the best thing to happen to Halo. I'll miss it, but damnit I'm just done.
No shame in starting with Halo 5, 343 marketed the hell out of that game. That was about all they did with it lol.
Yeah its a total shame what 343 has done. I have another video coming up on that soon.
Sins of the Prophets is pretty cool. I've played it. Love the voice lines when you click the ships..."OH RI ON!"
@@BrokenCircle1 Sins of the Prophets goes hard ngl. I also love how active you are in the comments!
@@crusaderkaiser2000 I try to respond when I can. At my PC at the moment doing research for the next Halo video so its easy at the moment.
how heart breaking i didn't grow up with halo but i love it i consider myself a novice halo fan but it is sad to see long time fans cry at their favorite game get disrespected
You aint kidding, been a fan since 2002,its not easy for us who love the game with all our hearts
@@nicolae-alexandruluca7853 must be crying for days watching vids like this because i would if i was a longtime halo fan
I played Infinite on release. The only way I can explain the serious lack of content is that it was forced to release in 2021. It took the game 4 seasons to feel like a complete title on the MP side. It plays well and I liked it, but it's nowhere near the awesome live service game that would support the series with multiple campaigns and frequent MP additions for many years.
The campaign is the worst part right now. It feels like Episode 1 of a greater series and really begs for a DLC sequel we'll never get. Local co-op was never implemented.
Infinite has good foundations, but the lack of content and the changes in cosmetics and progression alienated 90% of people, including myself.
At this point I don't think Infinite can be salvaged and I hope that the next installment will be less experimental and closer to what most fans want from the series.
Well thank you for watching. I can agree with all of that but in the end I do not think the next installment if there is one will be any better.
I've been saying 'I hope the next one will be better' since Halo Reach. Granted I liked Reach but it wasn't Halo 3 if that makes sense. Ever since then from 343 it has been nonstop disappointment.
I had said in another video Infinite is meh at best for me. Its nothing new that actually makes a difference it feels like one big nostalgia baiting gimmick. Maybe that's another video for another day regarding the nostalgia thing.