PC Myths you should NOT believe!
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- We’ve all heard the myths about PCs... but can you believe them!?
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I disagree, Jay. Having a liquid cooled PC in your room does look cool, therefor making the room cooler.
And thats a fact
Oh snap, you done proved him wrong!
the room is not cooler. its KEWLER
I concur.
Its not cooler, it gets hotter than my non-existent girlfriend
I leave my computer on all night to vacuum up all the dust in the house.
roflmao
This hurts to read
@@ExtrymGamingLTU Bwuhahaha! My computer was being bad so I'm punishing it... : )
@@mojoneko8303 You really need to read up on parenting. Don't use physical harm, rather reward it when it is doing good. That will strengthen your bond and make it less afraid of you, and it will preform much better. This works with humans too
lol that's not a myth tho, that's actually somewhat true.
"your room gets faster"
now i can sleep at 200 fps
didn´t you mean ZzZps?
I can only sleep at 15 fps :(
@@crusaderdoomslayer7055 *PATHETIC* I sleep at 6 fps on low settings 720p at 50% res scale
Humans can't even sleep at over 60 fps so you're just wasting money bro
@@Redslayer86 Rooms can get up to 360 fps
"people normally upgrade after 5 years"
My 9yo computer that wasn't even very good 9 years ago: *sweats nervously*
Lol my last pc is 9 years old now, I've been gaming on xbox 360 then xbox one. Just going back to pc now and ordered a new one.
@@jimmynich4791 good for you man, check your parts thoroughly though, im making a new build and my ram came at thursday but it was damaged so i had to send it back lol
@@kubero2323 Everything good so far. The gpu gets really hot though when gaming, the glass panel on the side is really warm then, i maybe need to add some case fans. Good to be gaming on pc again, just got to get used to keyboard and mouse again.
@@jimmynich4791 Nicee. Yeah definitelly add some case fans, but check beforehand if you have available pin slots for them on the mobo or else you will need to buy an adapter and connect them through it. Dont worry getting used to kb&m just takes time so if you will play, you will definitelly get better, cheers and glhf my friend :D
Totally relatable 😂🤣🤣
You forgot to mention the myth that LEDs dont do anything-
Blue = more cold
Red = higher performance
Green = environmentally friendly
I thought they keep SSDs toasty warm?
@@l1z4rdbr34th90 You mean reds? Of course, there are tradeoffs to each.
Red = more heat with the performance
Green = worse performance
Blue = higher power consumption
It really seems to me like some people on here know nothing about computers, concerning, really.
Woah no wonder people are into rainbow rgb never looked at it that way
Yo what is pink then ?
@@WilhelmProduktion then I got some bad news for you son....
My list of PC Gaming myths:
1. It's cheap
2. It's expensive
TRUE!
It is expensive!
@@GrubKiller436 Debatable... Subjective
1. Consoles use the same component manufacturers and general designs as PC's, so there is nothing that can make a PC have less quality than a console.
2. You can build a console-level PC for the same cost as a console with a ryzen 3 2200g and 8gb ram from teamgroup and a cheap b350.
wait did i just call pc components cheap and contradict myself
Electroblade PC’s aren’t cheap compared to Consoles. The benefit of a console is that they can sell a powerful product at a lower cost than a PC
"Pairing an AMD CPU with an AMD GPU makes no difference"
Shows how fast things change in the tech world.
came here to say this
Does all 5000 series cpu and 6000 series gpu support SAM
@@_reqqz_ yes
Yap, I was gonna comment the same thing
How did this change? I'm new to pc and looking to build one.
Myth: Heat generated by PC is bad.
Reality: The heat can be used for multiple purposes like a heater in winter, an easy way to cook ramen or popcorn, etc.
When I had my PC in the basement, it did make a difference in the winter lol. Makes for a pretty good foot warmer if you got the tower down by your feet TBH.
myth .. cold is good since cold start had issue as well... alot of hardwwre work in the certain temp...
@@campkira myth: cold exists
Fact: only heat exists, cold is what happens when enough heat is lost to reach a level of discomfort.
Heck yeah 😂 I love it when it's winter with my pc
That's not a bad idea. If you could reliably use the heat generated by your pc you could save some $$$ on heating equipment.
Well building a pc takes less than 30min
Me: *trying to put the I/O shield in for past 2 hours*
Me: doesn't have a fast wifi and a pc to download the windows d
Jokes on you, I dont even have the money to buy pc parts
Lol and the hdmi is still blocked by one of the clip things
Just bought a new motherboard with built-in I/O shield. Always hated mounting the I/O shield.
Sometimes it clicks in no problem, other times it feels like you're about to warp the whole case.
Built-in I/O shields is a blessing, no more struggle, no more forgetting
bruh i thought i was the only one struggling to put that shit on 😂
"Leaving your computer all night is bad for it."
"False"
Electricity Bill: am I a joke to you?
Bad for your wallet not the computer
The thing is, it can be bad. I have witnessed it first hand. (I think this only applies to HDDS)
Every hard disk drive has an estimated uptime life. I think it is like 3 years total, if you left your PC on for 3 years, your hard drive will most likely fail, as I have seen with one of my computers.
Jack if it is constantly writing and reading
@@trey534 i have a hdd from like 2012...
I waste a shit ton of electricity every month, yet my bill is never more than $60-$80. Peanuts considering i make $1600-$2000 a month.
me: water cools my pc
my room: i am speed
xD 😂 😂
I always use water cooling to overclock my room speed!
@@Alexus00712 bro.... u'r beyond human intelligence
Possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life "Macs can't get viruses"
FUCKING RIGHT THO
It's probably right because who the fuck is using a mac lol? So who is going to waste their time writing a virus for one?
@@eternalreign2313 sure, but that doesn't mean it can't happen
ok who
i mean they have a tiny bit more powerfull security but can still get hacked as much as windows pcs. Macs are overpriced and made out of pricy materials and I hate how people use a like 2015 model and say: ''mY mAc Is BeTtEr ThAn Ur REcEnTlY BuIlT sYsTeM"
Fact: I overclocked my cpu from 4 to 6 cores by adding more ram
@CodyNW42 Where do you download yours from? I can only find where to download cars
Stupid, just download the ram
Thanks for the tips! I just downloaded 2 TB of clockspeed to my CPU.
CodyNW42 what about system 69? I'm not gonna let my PC go around snitching on my Xbox.
@CodyNW42 yeah i just deleted system 32 and i made another system called "system 6969" now my pc is beyond limits
I'm immensely disappointed that water cooling doesn't break the laws of thermodynamics.
Quickshot Gaming ikr who knows maybe someday we might be able to transfer the heat into solid matter like they do with photons
Well cooler electronics have a lower resistance, so in principle they should need less power to run. Effects like power leakage are also higher at higher temperatures. So a cooler PC should certainly in principle use less power and thus be cooler.
However in practice it just means that the part turbo's more because it's cooler.
@@Mandragara In metallic parts this might be true. But in semiconductors it may have the opposite effect depending from the components.
@@peterkiss1204 Didn't know higher temps could decrease power leakage. What's the physics?
@@Mandragara In silicon semiconductors the junction forward voltage drops 2,5mV at every °C increase in temperature. That means a dioda @ room temperature drops 0,6V (nominal), but @125 °C it's just 0,35V.
If your circuit draws 1 Amper trough that dioda the 0,6W loss is reduced to 0,35W due to the high temperature.
Jay:"Watercooling does not make your room cooler"
Me:Fine I will just watercool my room.
Pool
Fishtank
Store the heat underground in the winter and use it later in the summer. It does work for some buildings
8:28 "Most points of failure happen when turning your computer on"
Thermal cycling is what eventually kills most components, ie when it's heating up or cooling down. This happens most after the computer has been turned off or when turning on; and in either case you'll find out when you try to turn it on, or shortly thereafter.
Yes i agree, working with computers all day. We always fear a total shutdown of a Datacenter. We know a lot of parts will fail. And you should be aware that these computers are tested more thoroughly compared to a PC part.
I work with RF electronics that are space qualified. Thermal Cycling and Thermal Shock are part of the testing because of exactly that.
my last computer seemed to stop working while booting some time after i got my current one.
"you won't experience a difference in the..."
"Big picture" or "Long run"
Jay: *"The long picture"*
Panorama
The *big* run
The long big
THAT A GUY LIKE XI IS A HERO, there's a myth. But who going to point it out.....Who's Rothgar against China?
10:13
Myth: when you leave your cpu on overnight the government mines bitcoin with it
the government doesn't but virus' have been known to though.
Now that's a conspiracy theory😉
Better that, than: More taxes! :/ I think I buy more computers that are always on to lower my taxes? :P
How did find out about that? Yes, the government has been all kinds of things with your computer one of them is the network all the computers together to hack other countries.
🤣🤣🤣
"leaving your pc on all night is bad for it"
3D artists going through 50h rendering sessions ; lol
100% of datacenters sweating profusely. But Muh Uptime bro. xD
I’ve been doing that on an i5 no graphics card all in one PC for a few years
Got an FX 8350 that hasn't been turned off for almost 8 years that's probably reserving it's plot in the yard now.
@@Shinobubu datacenters and servers use different ram, i don't remember the name but is to avoid corruption.
@@nifollas ECC ram? I had ECC ram when I ran dual cpu's sometimes you just need ECC just so the CPU doesn't choke on its own datastreams. Error correction ram doesn't mean its more durable. it just means it handles single event incident corruptions better. They're actually slower.
Alternate title "Jay talks about myths but every time he busts a new one, he starts out in a weirder position"
XD
' Water cooling willl make your room go faster'
Jay - 2019
More than that 'Quote" what made me laugh was the "Jay - 2019" 😂 😂
Micah van Everdingen it’s true, I water cooled my pc and my room was too fast and ran away. Now my house is missing a room😢
@@thatoneasian2370 😂 😂
@@thatoneasian2370 Aw I feel for ya man
Don't do kids, drugs.
*water cools pc*
Room: I am speed
The Thunderant yes
i hate when my room is slow.
Room: Spid
Jay: PC myths that you shouldn't believe.
*next scene* Jay: *starts talking about a case*
me: oh, i shouldn't believe that.
Important note on SSDs : always try to get twice the capacity that you need!
I saw extended tests about it. And to roughly sum it up, an 90% loaded SSD will "deteriorate" at least twice faster than an half loaded one.
It is due to the constant effort a heavily loaded has to do in order to constantly rearrange files.
Well I'm fucked, my SSD is 250gb and has been almost full for like two years.
i play rdr2 on pc max settings so I can cook ramen with my water cooler.
I did that with my laptop playing wow. Now I can sculpt the polymer case to any shape I want when it runs.
@@santyclause8034 lol
@@santyclause8034 XDD same happened to me when i tried raiding on LEGION expansion !!!
I pulled the air cooler off my 8370 Bulldozer cpu and replaced it with the hotdog cooker I had strapped to the exhaust on my snow machine. 😁
690 likes lmao
I overclocked my psu now I have 3.3 ram sticks with -(0.7)^3gb in total, 5.2 cores each, all that with quadriple multithreading
But how many threads!?!?!?!?
William Miller 16.5 , it has triple Multithreading
You should consider adding a 10 Gbps Ethernet connection via add-in card to download the round-uppable RAM module and CPU infinity brick. Always attempt to obtain an integer-based system. The CPU can get indecisive around the 5.5 and 6.5 cores mark. You can try therapy and other forms of consistency training; however, being supportive may prevent any problems because it believes in you (and you believe in it). They are always watching. Remain kind and you won't have to invest in the high end Ethernet card.
lol overclock a psu (power suply unit) uh.... right lol
it just hurts to read that
"After 8 years your computer is no longer relevant"
uh...my last PC lasted that long and handled most new games, not AAA titles, but pretty much everything I wanted to play.
then you obviously aren't playing games that need overclocking, therefore making the initial argument pointless
@@emiliamercier4452 it's pretty rare that you would NEED to overclock on a new system, yes later in the computers lifetime you may need to but not initially. Games are quite behind the curve of technology, they are still trying to get the hang of using multiple core properly.
Then it clearly wasn't a cheaper system you dingus, big wooooooosh
@@chad8767 Games now can use upto 8 Cores already (see:MSFS2020).
And yes, games officially benefit out of OCing, cuz most games usually like a higher clock speed (assuming that you don't have a CPU with severely bad IPC, like the FX, which is not comparable even at 8GHz). So basically overclocking a CPU can give you a nice boost in Gaming performance (higher FPS).
Well an overclocked gtx680 can handle most games on 1080p 60fps at at least medium settings. I mean ok, the gpu vents make the sound of a jet aircraft but it stays under 80°C 😂
I lost it when he "became" a talking house plant 😂
"Today we're talking about PC myths you shouldn't believe:
The new Pure Base 500 from be quiet! brings enthusiasts more of what they want at a price that they can afford."
That's some terrific ad integration right there
He's trying to tell us something...
Data recovery isn’t possible with an SSD that has had every bit overwritten with a 0 because it doesn’t hold a magnetic charge but rather a switched state. The previous switched state remains unknown.
However if you have magnetic media (spinning disk) even a low level format doesn’t guarantee data can’t be recovered. However random writes over every sector with random charges in alternating patterns can still make it pretty impossible to recover the data but this requires special tools and will impact the life span of the disk sometimes dramatically.
So don’t destroy your SSD drives, just write 0’s to every sector and sell away 👍🏻
Hope this was helpful 🙏
When you run the command prompt as administrator and use the built in windows cypher command it works well for both SSDs and traditional hard drives to write over everything. Its slow, but its easy to write over everything multiple times. Its excessive for an SSD, but if I'm selling a drive I want to be absolutely sure nobody can get any of my personal or financial information.
I once managed to accidentally format my porn HD, I recovered most of it using a free recovery tool. Bonanza.
@@abedfo88 i have found if you add data to the hard drive n question ,the data you can pull up with those programs decreases i filled up a 3 terabyte with the same video over and over again twice and could longer retrieve the original data much to my chagrin as i accidentally dropped the hard drive transferred all the original data to.
As most SSD have write balancing in the firmware just writing 0's to it will not properly erase data since it might not write to the whole SSD. Thats why most SSD's support the ATA secure erase command instead. Unless stated by the drive erase tool that it uses this function it should not be used to erase SSD's if data sanitation is the goal.
use DBAN, it overwrites everything on the drive multiple times so data can't be recovered.
“Ram doesnt matter”
My 64gb:😭
*OUR* 64GB
@@69bruh communist?
@@Adrian-by2yr yeah ofc why wouldn’t I be
Nice unintentional flex.
@@69bruh our 64gb will work well with the new game "Sex with Stalin"
The reason pc parts fail or “die” when you just turn it on is based in physics. It’s the same as when a lightbulb (non led) blows up when you turn it up. The power going through it is too high right when you turn it on, and as the lightbulb (pc parts) heat up a bit, the resistance rises making it safer.
Hope this helps!
I know this isn't a "set" but i really like the lighting, the camera, framing, plant and boxes in the background for talking head videos.
I was thinking exactly the same thing
I had precisely the same exact thought, with 100% accuracy - minus the plant/boxes/framing/lighting
Myth: Adding tons of RGB lights will make the computer a lot cooler.
Well... sorta true... but... not that kind of cooler.
Not the other kind either.
Lloyd Wilhelm that’s a joke right?
Lloyd Wilhelm because people dont want to type stuff they don’t have to? RGB lights are basically a type of LED
@@LWilhelm1948 Often, when it comes to computers and electronics, some abbreviations are so well used in the industry the abbreviation itself is the designation one use to describe the item in question, Other abbreviations are: PSU, GPU, CPU, RAM, HDD, SDD ... The list goes on. RGB is simply part of that, and not just to the computer world but as well in the electronics world.
Going around mentioning these types of lights for the full name would be silly: "Red Green Blue Light Emitting Diodes"
@@LWilhelm1948 I see. Good that you're informing us about this.
But to respond to your "I don"t get why people can't spell things out instead using abbreviations."
I simply tell as it is:
Majority of the world already know these abbreviations as if they are the words themselves. Anyone even slightly into electronics will understand what these abbreviations mean. There is no need (except for some very special and very rare cases) to use the full context of these abbreviations.
If you're interested in this topic, make notes. You'll find lots of abbreviations thrown around.
People will not start to spell things out just because there are very few people who demand it.
Then, there's the other kind of abbreviations used in generic conversation. Especially in written chats such as Facebook, Twitter and other social media. These can be: LOL, CBA, WTF, IIRC etc... Ther I agree with you. And I usually avoid these unless the group I'm chatting with already are well versed in them.
But the industry type of abbreviations is well established for a professional market. That will not change, and should not.
"Your room gets hotter, and faster"
My room: ÑÝÖÖÖÖÖ
“Having an AMD CPU and GPU will not make your performance better”
*laughs in Ryzen 5000 and RX 6000*
Yap. To be fair, the first thing he said in this video was, that technology changes all the time.
Nope not more in 1-2 moths when Nvidia Release resizable Bar too
*laughs in intel supporting resizable bar*
Jay's braincell 1: the long run
Braincell 2: the big picture
Mouth: the long picture
Entire brain: big brain
JayzTwoCells
The Big Long
I like it. Should be a thing.
Shutting down your PC overnight helps against Windows doing it when it feels like it
I hate windows 10 so much
@@LoneBlade5 then use Linux.
@@doufmech4323 Linux needs more work too
@@zsurvivalist7996 anthying specific?
Yeah, but if you leave it on all night, it'll just update on its own when you are asleep. That's what mine does, at least.
"You wont get better performance when you pair an AMD cpu and gpu"
That didn't age very well
Yep
*smart memory access intensifies*
@@TMRick1 It’s actually not that big of a deal, you don’t get much performance out of it, kinda disappointed at the Radeon 6000s, still prefer a RTX 3000.
@@lilspooky6041 also nvidia is aparrently working on an equivalent working with amd and intel cpus
actually after looking at some 3rd party benchmark it doesn't make much of a diff.. maybe will see something with 6xxx seried
As a industrial electrician the initial draw on most components at the time of energizing is slightly higher before setteling into normal standard draw/ operation. So over time components are a lot like engines as that most of the wear and tear so to say happens at start up when nothing major wrong happens during normal operation like extreme heat. I hope no ones CPU/GPU is making any weird knocking sounds lol. Cheers!
#1 myth
Wait till next year when prices drop.
Friends told me that for 15 years, finally I just started buying parts. Took a year, but it turned out great. Now I have mine finished and they are still waiting for prices to drop.
I'm in that boat now. I got people telling me to wait a few more months. Black Friday deals, RTX 30 series, Ryzen Zen 3 ... it's all going to make previous gen stuff much cheaper lol. I researched the previous gen and prices didn't really drop that much. There's always a lag, and I'm not waiting 6 months just so I can go through this dance again.
@@eternalreign2313 just remember the hard fact of life that the minute you buy it, it's outdated. So save up and buy the best you can afford at that time and don't look back.
@@aaronnelson7702 thanks for that comment. I just bought parts for a new PC after quite a long time of waiting while everyone told me to wait MORE and I can finally have my peace of mind
Well, generally it's bad to buy high end parts close to the release of new parts, be it gpus, cpus, etc. Since you wont really get your money's worth out of it and soon most of that will be down the drain all of a sudden. I think that's what they meant? For example with what just happened to the used 2080ti market lol, RIP people who bought a 2080ti at full price a month or two ago.
Just waiting for Black Friday here. RTX 30 release was AMAZING. Black Friday comes and i aint listening to any1 who tells me to wait.
Place the PSU on the isolating pads, so the case doesn’t short circuit the PSU...
#theverge
I thought those pads were there to reduce vibration noise im dumb thanks for the post
@@kyleforgeard4148 Dont PSUs have casings around them that dont run electricity? If those pads are for electrical insulation that doesnt make much sense.
@@builder396 r/wooosh
ITS THE VERGE PC BUILD HAHA
some cheapo PSUs have a cases that will toss your finger if you have very old, 2 wire electrical installation in your home (without PE wire) and grab PSU with one hand and with second you will touch your home's heating radiator or whatnot.
Same with older magnesium laptops that do the very same thing (like old dell c400 )
All the different shots KILLED me! Subscribed!!
0:34 I was watching this video right after hearing Grant's death to forget the sadness I felt after hearing that. But then you mentioned Myth Busters. RIP Grant Imahara
Grant died???
Now I'm sad
@@archygrey9093 same I did not know
How?
He had brain aneurysm
Myth: Jay says to come see him on the dyno on Saturday
Cold hard truth: THE VIDEO UPLOADED SUNDAY NIGHT!
LOL, i caught that as well.
JayzTooSlow
Jay: " i am downloading more ram for my brain so i can talk faster"
Brain: " Error , System overheating"
should water cool it.
More RAM for the brain = even more digressions! Not that i would mind... :D
Stop running your Brainpower with Chrome. =p
@@jamesbilger This specific application is already water-cooled with a 24/7 run time temp is typically 98.6F... I suggest Liguid nitrogen injections to assist the current water-cooling method.
@@2cafn8d42 honestly he probably just needs high static pressure fans to get some real airflow over the radiator, liquid nitrogen couldn't hurt though. might even get some overclocking done. also, this is now my pitch for the next #ripgn
2:16 AMD CPU paired with an AMD GPU, now with Rage Mode, that statement didn't age well. (granted Rage Mode barely adds any performance atm but it is now a thing).
Rage mode V 2.0: GPU shortage edition.
"Hotter... AND FASTER!!!" Damnit, Jay, I was excited there for a second
"Today we're looking at myths you shouldn't believe"
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Billey Holloway he was talking about the verbal one lol
@@billey30 i already have done this in the past, but my morality.... Well...
Billey Holloway download brave browser to eliminate every.single.ad EVER
You watch ads?
When I get rid of hard drives I act like I’m Joker and the hard drive is Jason Todd.
Wow. Lmfao
OOF
Do you legit use a crowbar on hard drives?
Flex I did most recently. They were old hard drives that was over 10 years old
Too soon bro.
8:46 you are absolutely right, I had a PC build for the longest that worked... but I couldn't turn it off, if I did on booting back on it would fail until it miraculously started up again through trial and error. So I learned to keep it on forever, not even sleep because it wouldn't come out of it, I just turned off the screens at night. My record was six months without turning it off 😂Of course I restarted it regularly and everything but if I kept it off more than a few minutes it would be a nightmare to make it work again. It wasn't even like the pc was dying slowly, it worked flawlessly when on, last game I played on it was The Wicher 3 on medium to high settings from start to finish without any issues.
At the best buy i worked at, we had a space in the auto bay that was the Hard Drive Disposal area. I had so many fin times coming up with ways to break them. My head told me if it didn't sound like a shaker... It wasn't good enough.
"Turn your PC off - for the environment"
"Everyone come to Camaro Con"
Jay's next video: "Myths about global warming"
Love that response. A computer or two won't have much of an impact, neither will a camaro, or 100. A cruise ship or two though... Pheew
@@wolfshanze5980 Except that is NOT a myth...
@@dadjake no matter what, why leaving a computer running all night for nothing? electricity is not free and producing it is not free either. And any component has a life expectancy. Why reaching it earlier by leaving the computer running for nothing? not to mention dust.
@@VuHien2011 Absolutely true. I turn my pc off at night, simply because I live in a small dorm, and the RGB is too bright oterwise (I'm being serious, yeah.). And I also don't want to go through more GPUs or CPUs than I have to. I stress those components enough already when letting them render things during the day.
I remember when I was new to building Pcs. I tried buying a psu for my build and the Best Buy employee told me that my parts would blow up if I went with a high wattage psu
MicroCenter >>>>>>>>>> Best Buy
Fu*k that employee
If that psu was a generic one he might be true
Best Buy in a nutshell right here everyone 10/10
@@ArcticZombie Fun Fact: The Guy was the builder at The Verge.
Awesome video and ty for all the info
Had to Sub! Just built my First Gaming PC for my youngest. Your videos were Soo Helpful for a Newby!
"HDD are fragile"
WTF are you doing with your HDD? Mine just sits in a case.
it can go bad if you turn your case sideways and run it and many people use external hdd
When you go clean your PC you have to be cautious with it.
@@neetishyadav8553 Doesn't affect it sideways. HDD's are made to mount vertically or horizontal. I currently have a HDD that is electrical taped to the inside of my build at an angle and it's been running perfectly for about 8 years.
@@neetishyadav8553 what are you even on about? Tilting an HDD isn't going to cause damage, unless you're moving it while it (the drive) is running in which case you shouldn't move it in any fashion. shocks can cause misalignment which damages the platter and thus loses data and disk sectors, reducing the overall lifespan of the device.
Laptops??
I remember when adding more RAM did make my computer faster.
Back When having 512mb or 1gb (single channel mode) and then doubling it to 1gb or up to 4gb actually did speed common tasks up by a lot in Dual channel mode.
Did you get a ssd tho?
I had some success dedicating a flash drive for the page file, many years ago. I extended the usefulness of another aging computer with an SSD dedicated to the page file, not quite as many years ago.
I still own a working 8088 ... 1 MB is the max ram in that thing, but I already fried that and had to go back to 640k...and yes...it is a potato
Yeah, each channel is parrallel access (as in both channels can be accessed at once), and the OS and CPU can utilize that.
Adding more RAM does still speed up computers. A 4gb PC boots up and responds slower than an 8gb PC. A 16gb PC is much faster. This fact hasn't changed at all. Yes, it helps immensely if you clone your old spinning hard drive over to an SSD, but having a new SSD AND more RAM will make your average PC speed up tremendously. RAM plus SSD equals productivity and much more instant gratification. More RAM is always better.
Been subbed for years and have even seen Jay's vids recommended at all
I need some advice, I have a Gigabyte B550 Vision D with a Lian Li Galahad 360 cooler. I am doing a top mount with the water cooler. Instead of having the tubes on the right and run across the Ram I have it on the left, It is making a S shape to the CPU, is this still okay?
I know the reason why components fail when you turn them on and off from a study done by IBM in the late 70's. Yes, I am an old nerd. When power cycling electronic parts they shrink and expand according to temperatures. This causes micro fractures. Leaving them at the same temps prevents this.
I think this is why you can sometimes fix a graphics card by baking it in the oven. At specific temperature the material will melt a bit and seal the microfractures.
"Leaving them at the same temps prevents this.". Leaving them on helps keep them more thermally stable and significantly reduces this, It doesn't prevent it :) Also more specifically the electronic parts aren't the problem, the conductors (e.g. the traces in a PCB) are. Those micro fractures will eventually break and function like a switch that has failed open. I'm not THAT old, however, I know the study you are referring to and have read through it in the past.
this is exactly what I came here to say. Different materials have different rates of cooling and different melting points. Even if you never reach the melting point (hopefully lol) nor have materials that have vastly different cooling rates, they will at absolutely minimum, have different thermal expansion capacities and tolerances. This all leads to the materials dissimilating after prolonged and continuous heating and cooling. Even if the metals don't separate, they will create areas where they are more or less conductive.
So leaving your computer on has a purpose and turning your computer off has a purpose. It depends on the age of the hardware and the current condition of the materials involved... AKA, could go either way and you probably can't tell by sight.
This isn't even getting into the the specific components in the different products that have different tolerances and time frames for power fluctuation. Thats a whole other story with no real answer to the issue in general and would require exact specifics of your system.
So no, myth not busted.
Spasgasmic in what situation would you need to turn your computer off?
@@ughhhmcrbinch5583 When it's really old and prone to freezing up lol. So I turn mine off anytime I gotta be away for an extended period of time.
It's ok CZcams, I already built the PC, you can stop recommending me these videos now :D
Same XD
Exactlyyyy lol
Could you tell me the specs? I know that I'm late but I want to see if it was worth it now that the 30 series have been announced.
Omar Xhelo wait for the 30 series
Faaacts 😂😂😂
Loved Jay in this video lol, why did I find this so funny hahah
You just found my PC case for me. Be Quiet is just what I’m looking for, and affordable to boot.
Mahalo. 🙏
PC Myth: "The more you buy, the more you save"
A $1,500 computer today will last about as long as a $700 computer. In 7 years the technology will have advanced so far that you basically need to replace every component to play new games or install Firefox.
I was about to put that you beat me to it
@@markm0000 Maybe today with both Intel and AMD trading blows, time will tell. Someone running a 3930k now is still having a decent experience with daily computing and even some games, it's roughly equivalent in total to a 9400 according to PassMark. Spending a bunch back then netted you a bunch in the long run. If you dropped $900 on a 3930k back in 2011, you really would just be getting to a point where your gaming performance was starting to suffer.
@@markm0000 Completely false. Even the 2600k from 2011 is still relevant today and can still be used to max out settings in games as long as your GPU is up to the task. Your PSU? Unless it dies, it's going to run just fine for 10+ years and still do the same thing it did the day you bought it. Ultimately, the evolution of PCs is at its slowest point ever, there are no massive gains anymore unless they do a massive technology change, which already hasn't happened in 8 years so I don't see it massively changing for another few. Until developers for any piece of software ever get the hell off their ass and actually make use of all these cores we are starting to get, CPUs really won't have much of a change for a long time coming.
@Bitter Clinger Honestly if you popped a 1060 or something in it you'd still have a pretty decent 1080p gaming machine.
My favorite Myth is that intel is the only way to go and amd is just for budget builds
that was true a few years back, but now it's definitely not true
@@leumgui That would be depend. AMD is smart that a single price, try to able tackle every usage type at slightly above average performance. Intel moves doesn't give sweet spot for user, you either get all the way performance or all the way budget.
@@Trainmaster909 1 day later XD
@@Trainmaster909 They are still 14nm. There is no die shrink. The gains will be small, I doubt it will be enough to make any real difference. Sure, maybe a 2% fps difference, but then you also have Zen 3 coming, and if we're conservative it might give us +5% gain, but since it's a new architecture, I wouldn't be surprised if we have another 15%. If that happens, Intel loses out the gate.
From what I see, it isn't a myth anymore but some still don't wanna give up on Intel because of that old mindset despite knowing that it is outdated.
7:41 the page file is stored on storage media, not RAM.
The OS kernel allocates memory to programs in chunks that are known as "pages". In windows, a page file is a file on your drive that gets used when the system has allocated all of its physical memory (all your RAM), yet programs need more pages, so your OS will move some pages out of physical into the page file stash.
It also gets used when you hibernate your computer, where the whole contents of your RAM get saved to the page file to be loaded on wake.
4:35 My mouth starts foaming every time I hear someone say this.
Holy fuck I can't stop laughing at this for whatever reason
I just built my first PC last week. I spent the last year researching and looking into pcs and finally built one.
Congration! Your'e doned it
How much u spend
Spill the beans! Let us know your set up!
PC Myth: Your dad is coming back with smokes and a laptop.
Lmao.... damnnnnnnnn!
He never came back.....
lol jokes on you my dad is dead! hahha
These days its "Your dad is coming back with vape juice and a laptop."
Depends on the dads skin color...
Very useful brother !!!! Thanks
So weird to come back to this video over a year later and see a plug for the case that you literally built in yesterday.
"only killed one chip ever. thats an old amd fx cpu."
watching this video on a 4 year old, overclocked 8350.
Sweating Intensifies.
Same haha
Dunno how old my 6350 is but its older than 4 and have been set to 4.5ghz since I bought it... Still doing good but I should prolly get a new one soon.
What saves lifespan is taking good care of its temperature, my 6350 survived through a Noctua cooler, an H60, and now a Cryorig somethingsomething.
I did once have a CPU that started to die...it was a Core 2 Duo E4300 (stock clock 1.8GHz) which I'd run at 2.7GHz for years. Then it suddenly went unstable and I had to drop back to 2.4GHz. Within a couple of weeks I'd had to clock it right back to stock. Don't know if the degradation would have continued because I replaced the CPU and motherboard at that point.
@@d2factotum The thing with that is it could equally have been the motherboard capacitors wearing out so unable to supply a stable voltage, unless you tried on another board.
In my 25 years or so of building PCs, its ALWAYS been the motherboards that die, not the CPU.
You should really upgrade, it performs about the same in games when overclocked as an older Pentium does. czcams.com/video/LTIra6waYKE/video.html
Some other myths.
1. Static electricity can damage PC parts.
- true, not only can static damage parts, but it can cause them to instantaneously explode.
2. Using too much thermal paste is bad.
- FALSE, there is NO SUCH thing as too much thermal paste. In fact, you should dip your CPU in thermal paste for at least 2 hours before installation.
3. Tying up loose cables in nice and neat.
- True and False, though visually it is appealing, cables generate heat, and placing them all together creates more heat. Let your cables ventilate and have them splayed all over the place.
4. Tweezers and Zip Ties are not the same thing.
- Regional true or false, its like "POP" and "SODA". In the North and Midwest, its called "POP", in certain parts like East Coast or in HeeHaw states, they say "SODA" in reality, they are the same thing, just like Tweezers and Zip Ties. Cept in HeeHaw, they also call EVERYTHING Coke, Orange Coke, Lemon Coke, Cherry Coke, instead of say... Sprite, or something. Going to New YAWK, and asking for "POP" only to have city bumpkin look at me and say "POP??...... POP....CORN?"
Yes Jackie...I'm talking about you.
5. The more RAM the better
- Depends, More RAM is better, but the human eye can't even see more than 24GB of RAM so any more than that is useless.
6. Screwing in with confidence will result in better benchmarks.
- True, but make sure you're not GRANNY SHIFTING, not DOUBLE CLUTCHING like you SHOULD. You're lucky that 100 shot of mhz didn't blow the WELDS OFF YOUR MOTHERBOARD.
Stefan Etienne The Verrge Representative i’m dead lmao
Jay is right about the overclock "myth". Many years ago I improperly OC'd a Q6600, but forgot to set the correct voltage. The poor thing had 1.6v flowing through it, which I guess is the CPU counterpart to brain-damage. I've learned since then.
Awesome!! Camero is my 'Dream Car'!!
Myth: The Verge makes *any* decent content
Myth Busted
NOT
@@kenshiromilesvt.7037 It's "myth confirmed" you pleb.
Didn't even have a good quality swiss army knife.
@@nateg452 the myth is the verge makes good content, so "Myth Busted" is correct, the NOT he added is confusing though
That one PC build video was well worth a laugh.
Representing Mythbusters.
I still miss Jamie, Adam, Kari, Tory, and Grant.
Well, Adam is still around at least. But it's not the same.
only adam and jamie, the rest was forgetable.
@@thiccpug8040 Kari and Tory were there in the very beginning but didn't have their own segments until the second season, I believe.
Then the build team got canned 2 or 3 seasons before Discovery, in their infinite wisdom, canceled the show.
Then Discovery had the audacity to try and bring Mythbusters back as some sort of reality show, which turned to shit, and now they're trying a "for kids" version.
Honestly if they wanted to bring Mythbusters back they should just hire the original crew back and slowly hand the torch over to a new cast.
I miss Adam, Jamie, Tori, SCOTTY and Grant.
Kari can eat shit, hate that "I'll show up every day until Jamie gives me a job" trollop. "I want more money or I'm not doing another season." A/J: "We're restructuring and downsizing, we can't afford more without hurting production staff.." Kari: "Or else." A/J: "I'm sorry, we'll have to restructure and let you three go."
Because a hundred grand+ PER-EPISODE wasn't enough for her. Grant and Tori were fine with even taking a cut to stay on the show. Not the red-head "I copy everything the guys say" self-appointed nerd-queen.
@@MRdeLaat Grant puking is way more entertaining than Adam puking lol
IMO Adam Savages solo career is better the his Mythbusters content.
"Pairing an amd cpu and gpu does not increase performance"
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Hi Sam
@@__1960 crap too late to comment sam
True, I overclock my I7-2700i and had it since late 2015 and always had them running 80-90% usage and still works till this day.
Myth 1: Since watercooled PCs run so much cooler, my wroom won't get as hot
Answer: Lie. The room can actually get hotter and faster.
Myth 2: AMD GPUs perform better with AMD CPUs
Answer: Not true. It will perform to the potential which it can perform.
Myth 3: Adding more RAM will make your PC faster
Answer: Not true. Adding a SSD will make your pc faster. Adding more RAM will do absolutely nothing to your system
Myth 4: Formatting a drive removes all traces of data
Answer: False. Data will still remain and it can be recovered with diferent softwares. The only way to remove all your data is to destroy the HDD
Myth 5: Using too high wattage of a PSU can damage your system
Answer: Absolutely false. PSU's dont push power but computer parts draw power as much as they need.
Myth 6: SSDs don't live as long as HDDs
Answer: True. But HDD's are also way more fragile so it can be damaged in time before the life span of a SSD
Myth 7: Too many cables in a system can negatively affect airflow
Answer: Not true unless you have complete solid blockages inside the case.
Myth 8: Leaving your computer on overnigh is bad for your hardware.
Answer: Not true. Turning it down is recommended for not wasting energy (environement friendly)
Myth 9: Overclocking your computer can reduce its life span.
Answer: Only too much voltage will kill your components (especially cpu) so if your overclocking is done correctly, there's no risk in your hardwares life span.
I love ur username and i listened to that playlist its fire
Myth 3: Adding more ram to you PC can improve multitasking performance allowing you to run more programs simultaneously without penalty. Some media programs like adobe after effects can get ram hungry. Also Some games require more ram then others and more ram allows you to load more mods into the game.
Myth 6: I agree. SSDs don't have the lifespan of HDD's in terms of read/right cycles but are more durable towards physical wear due to the lack of moving parts.
Myth 8: This is complicated question without a definitive answer because the longer you keep something powered the more it's internal circuit components tend to electronically wear. At the same time though constantly turning your PC on and OFF also causes wear due to electric shock from change in voltages. Just like jayz said, components are more likely to die when being turned on. So it really depends on how often you use your PC , what hardware your running and how that hardwear responds to power throughout its life cycle.
Myth 9: Increasing voltage to maintain OC does degrade your OC potential, even with more than adequate cooling. This is called CPU degradation. This graph shows how voltage must be increased to maintain the overclock over time: www.anandtech.com/show/2468/6
I've experienced this wear in before with my old i7 2600k. where for one month I could maintain an OC at certain voltage with sub 70C temperatures but then bump into stability issues the next month where I must increase voltage to maintain that OC.
@@BraidenRobson you're wrong:
3. if you have enough ram (as it is recommended by a certain software/game) then adding more ram won't do anything. You explained your point in case when you don't have enough ram to run a certain game/software, which makes no sense. Also if you check youtube videos, they tested minimum ram with better cpu vs maximum ram with lower cpu, the first option was way better.
6. nowadays SSD's lifespan is longer than you expect. Average daily use of an ssd will make it last for 9 years MINIMUM
7. it's not complicated at all. also "constantly turning your PC on and OFF also causes wear due to electric shock from change in voltages" it's not true. All components nowadays have electric shock protection, including ram. PSU is the most common one that has.
9. wrong. I've OC'd my old fx 8350 numerous times during the years. At the begining I increased voltage without even knowing what it does. It never failed, it never bsod, and it still runs as brand new. I used it with 4.8, 5.0 and 5.2 ghz, 5.0 was my common.
@@user-yp6kk9lx7k
3. You just pulled a full 180 on my point and avoided what I said.
6. Send me the source of your stats
7. There is a voltage spike generally generated by inductors. This isn't a significant enough surge to break components out of the gate, but it definitely will cause unnecessary wear down the road. Read more about it here: daycounter.com/Articles/Inductive-Voltage-Spike.phtml
9. don't believe me then just read the article I sourced by anandtech for yourself.
@@BraidenRobson what you're saying sounds like alot of bollox cuz I know for a fact (since I work in IT domain) that you're missinformed
also why do you need him to waste time giving you links for stuff that's already proven? you like to waste other peoples time?
why dont you just google yourself?
1:23 "Since my watercooled PCs run so much cooler, my room won't get as hot"
2:17 "AMD GPUs perform better with AMD CPUs"
3:16 "Adding more RAM makes your computer faster"
3:49 "Formatting a drive removes all traces of data"
4:34 "Using too high wattage of a PSU can damage your system"
5:23 "SSDs dont live as long as HDDs"
6:23 "Too many cables in a system can negatively affect airflow"
7:21 "Leaving your computer on overnight is bad for the hardware"
8:48 "Overclocking your computer can reduce it's lifespan"
*You're welcome*
-spuma commenting, hoping jay pins this comment
The hero we all needed
Bless you kind sir
-spuma the amd one is that true I have a pc with intel cpu and amd gpu
forgot 8:48 "Overclocking your computer can reduce it's lifespan"
4:36 I thought this for years because I was upgrading an HP pre-built when I was a teen, before the age of tech-tube, and a HP customer service rep basically told me this.
Thanks for this!
Myth: RGB does not enhance performance.
That's actually untrue, the University of Harvard Berkeley conducted a 2 year PC user test on RGB performance. There were 10 PC's being tested, 5 with RGB and 5 without. The results have actually shown that the PC's with RGB actually performed up to 20% across the board, testing performance and overall system quality after 2 years.
false, cars with flame stickers also go faster :D
benis wow! This is groundbreaking research has compelled me to to agree with my initial belief that RGB enchanted performance
"Enchanted" performance? I need to get me some of that.
Truth: too much RGB will reduce performance. Nvidia GPUs have limit for total board power, so blazing bright colors on thicc RGB will draw a few watts that could have been used for GPU core.
There is a meme SSD from a respectable manufacturer that draws like 5W on the RGB. The SSD overheats and throttles to oblivion.
2:15 Metal Jayz Solid 2: -cents
Severely underrated.
Funny story about myth turning on/off vs leaving it on. When I worked IT for New York State, we had some NT4 servers that had to be moved. These servers had been running non-stop for 7 years with no issues. Afterwards, we tried to restart them and they wouldn't turn on and run.
@JayzTwoCents - idea for a build. you talked about heating up the room, how about a build when the cpu and gpu are watercooled but the heatexchanger is extended to like another place ( outside .. ) so the pc does a better job at not eating up the room.
Answer to 1: Friking thermodynamics!!
Thats not a pc myth thats a failed education system lmao
I can see where it is coming from, you have a substantially greater amount to heat up and then hold that heat for any period. And it is water on top of that. But once the entire process is up and running longer term it doesn't make sense.
it's not even related to education.
it's simple logic.
Ppl are not being taught to think by themselves
It is funny how people can't comprehend that, say, a 100W of heat into the room will come into that room no matter what radiator they use :D
@@Blei1986 its important to teach how to think logically. And how to think in general. Same reason why flatearthers are a thing
I've also heard that hard drives in particular tend to break when they spin up as you turn them on.
I miss my old Northwood C. Not only was it overclocked, but it was UNDERvolted at the same time. Stable, fast, cool, it was the best CPU that I ever overclocked.
The way he did all the shots is hilarious! XD
3:20 there's aren't enough memory chips in this world for chrome, though.
and that's why we use Firefox ;)
@@ahandlethatisnottaken frankly, with the amount of tabs I have open, it makes little difference lol
@@LadBooboo hmm, well the baseline for Chrome is quite high, so I guess can make a difference when you need that RAM for a game or something else. But I usually have over 100 tabs open, so yeah, that helps a lot more lol
Adobe: Hold my chips
PC Myth: Windows Defender is bad, always use third party software
Defender runs in the background and is known to cause performance inconsistencies when gaming. As an antivirus, it is pretty good.
I don't know, I am still using Kaspersky.
@@Shahzad-Khan so does most if not all antivirus or their real name as malware because that is how they actually function. Still though windows defender is very well made and protects most uneducated monkeys from causing damage at its standard settings. If you are really worried you can bump it up however its really only as safe as the user..which is why Linux can be the most safe and then the least safe OS to exist currently because it's really all down to the user in control. windows and mac os while better normally have the same faults its as good as its users. Once the user basically accepts anything random or was trustworthy or whatever well that makes it all pointless.
@@Shahzad-Khan Doesn't seem to slow mine down any. What does cause lag when I online game is the fact that my internet provider sucks donkey dong and won't replace any landlines in my area that have been around for 50+ years been broken in 3 dozen spots spliced back together and struck by lightning a dozen times over those years the last was just 2 weeks ago. I would not be surprised if some of it is held together with duct tape at this point, they are some seriously cheap bastards.
@@02091992able Try running Cinebench and you will get a score change. Just like with the Nvidia control panel and the AMD control panel. Not that Cinebench is a good benchmarking tool, just saying...
You want to talk about cheap, we had a land line that used the 2' tall green boxes from the 70's. I'd say that about 2000 or so a guy in a Nova ran over the box, it was smashed into the earth almost flat. The technician came out a couple days later and bent it into slightly a box again and half made a teepee out of it over the guts. It stayed that way for 15 or so more years... I guess the 2 customers never complained.
3:54 regarding the hard drives, my dad used to work for a place that had sensitive hard drives that had to be destroyed. My dad talked them into instead of paying to get them destroyed, every few months he would bring them home and I would get to destroy them with a sledgehammer, pickaxe, or ax. He even recorded it as proof and I did it for years because I was allowed to destroy something that needed to be destroyed and when I asked why he said it's the only way to guarantee they have no data left. He even made sure I destroyed each disk. I obviously enjoyed it.
Great video. I had seen it before but CZcams recommended it so I though "well what the heck, let's watch it again". The thing is that At 2:20 @jayzTwoCents mentions that an AMD CPU and GPU pair gives no advantage, and this was true back when this video was launched. but now with the new Big Navi GPUs and Ryzen 4 CPUs, pairing an AMD CPU with an AMD GPU does give some advantages regarding memory usage.
As someone who first started watching Jay when I looked up an AMD FX OC guide (which I'm still using today lol) I would love to sit with this guy for one day and just watch him do one of those videos. Dude always makes me laugh while learning. Keep it up Jay.
I like coming to Jay for these kinds of things
bet u watch mythbusters too, just to get lied to. they're idiots on an show purely made for entertainment. their studies they often do are just as good and precise as if chat made em.
This was very informing!
I just love that there's a sponsor right after he says here are some myths you shouldn't believe