Motocross Action's 2019 250 Shoot Out
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- čas přidán 20. 06. 2024
- The number one goal of any shootout should be to be 100 percent transparent with the reader. We want you to feel like you were the one riding the bikes. It is our job to layout the shootout to allow you to figure out what is the best bike for you. To that end we test each bike individually before putting them together. Of course, a shootout wouldn't be shootout without ranking the bikes from first through last. We understand that this ranking process can throw readers out of their wheelhouses. Faster riders have different requirements than slower riders. Riders with a good working relationships with their local dealer might want to stick with that brand. Have a garage full of Suzuki parts-good reason. Every bike in this shootout, regardless of where it ranks on the shootout hierarchy, is perfect. All six bikes have strengths and weaknesses (and one bike's weaknesses to some may be a strength to others).
As strange as it may sound, not every MXA test riders chooses to race the bike that he picked as the best all-around 250 Four-Stroke for 2019. He may admire the shootout winners attributes, but feels more comfortable on a bike that does something else a little better. It can depend on how tall you are, how much you weigh, the terrain you ride on, your skill level, what kind of tracks you race on, your budget, factory contingency programs or your favorite color. Here is our raw and unfiltered view of the 2019 250 four-strokes.
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Why did not you mention anything about hrc launch control or the gear position mapping switch? Down played the Honda a lot on this one. Did your “pros” not realize all the stuff that’s on the bike to pick between 3 settings on how the engine performs?
I am a Honda fan boy, and it makes me sooo mad how they can't seem to figure out how to make a powerband usable. They are clearly the biggest company by far with a massive R&D budget. Maybe one day they will actually listen to their customer base. Great video guys - very well done.
Lol a few years ago they were whining about no top end. You can't win
Well that settles it. The big 2 have done their 2019 250 shootouts and Yamaha won them both hands down. I got my 2019 YZ250F and it rocks. I’m a big guy at 245 and I didn’t have to do squat to my suspension and it handles my weight like a pro and makes me look good. Thanks Yamaha for making a bike that a big guy like me can enjoy and kick butt on.
Yamaha #1
Never EVER thought I'd see mxa admit a Yamaha was better than ktm.
That just prove that you were wrong and fell for this internet rumor that they were sellouts... just saying, no offense.
@@Wide000 didn't fall for anything mate🤙
they are both so good that you'd struggle to find anything wrong with either of them...it would come down to the tiniest of details because they are both rivals and both just as good as each other with off road bikes. But I will say yamaha makes better road bikes,
@@GrowingDownUnder and the fact that one is 1100 dollars more than the other
Team YAMAHA
Bring back the Honda, Kawasaki, and Suzuki, 250 two strokes.
I agree kawasaki makes good 2 strokes, but they should bring back the kx 500
I agree these bikes are BORING, Maintenance intensive, no resale and RUINED the sport!
Agreed. I have a 2006 yz250. I can build an entire second engine for the bike for cheaper than rebuilding my "old" 2015 Honda crf450r. The suspension is WAY WAY WAY better. It's lighter. It's funner. It's less and easier maintenance. I wish the other Japanese brands would do it and force an update in Yamaha land..but at the same time, if it's not broken don't fix it. Yamaha did something very right in 2005 on that bike and I'd hate to see it disappear.
i wish...
@@GrowingDownUnder Hell yes!!!!!!!! 500 two strokes ,
All of these bikes are good if anyone is considering getting a bike I will just say you'd love all these bikes because even the suzuki & kawasaki are great bikes
Yep. I said the same thing
Kudos to Darrell! Your product knowledge presentation is on-point. Diggin the new clean cut look as well as the shop. Bias your not, factual you are. Everything said has a point to those that listen to your reasoning. Well done!
Thanks!
I don't know everyone, I'm seeing a lot of people saying they were too "negative" this year. Is that to say that you all love it when they say nothing but super contrived positive things about every bike and you walk away feeling like you just paid time and money to be advertised to? I'm no motocross pro, but this review, while more aimed at pros, sure, but I felt that it was simply more honest. I just liked that it didn't feel like typical magazine bullshit.
We want to be as transparent as possible and give people what they want. Not all Fluff
StandardFish450 Go listen to Kris keefer for an accurate shootout! He gets like 12 riders all different skill levels both male and female, tests the bikes over multiple days at multiple tracks... he does a winner for each day/track and explains why they won on that day at that track and how the bike felt. Because a bike can excel in certain conditions and struggle in others
Then for his shootout he doesn’t speak or vote he just interviews the test riders and gets their feedback to how they felt the bikes were for them... it’s a completely unbiased shootout and he puts like 40 hours on each bike before giving a detailed review
@@Matt-dz6qn Sounds like fun, I've heard of him before. Didnt he used to do stuff for motor trend or something?
StandardFish450 not too sure but he’s an extremely well known tester and has helped develop the new Honda and Yamaha, he also has a no bs approach and without talking shit on a bike he will tell you his honest thoughts... and if you have a specific bike already he will tell you what you can do to set your bike up better such as suspension clickers and also what each setting is doing to the bike
StandardFish450 he doesn’t only test bikes, he also tests gear, parts like exhausts and sprockets and stuff like that, oils, handlebars literally everything
how many times did he say ktm 250 SXF ahahahaha
Chorus.. now!
S X FFF
Just say KTM, Honda, Yamaha etc. no need to say the whole model name everytime, we will know what you are talking about!
In 1995 I bought a new CR 125R for $4200.00 out the door. Lighter & more powerful nearly 1/2 the price. Thrill to ride. Now with Double the displacement & almost double the price 23 yrs later, thanks all the magazines that jammed 4 strokes down our throats & eliminating 1/2 the field in the district level, you got what you got suckers. I saved at least $70k & I'm not alone on abandoning the sport that abandoned us 2 stroke riders. Congrats on surviving w/o us. Not too hard when you make the same building 1/2 the amount of bikes.
If you rode a 125 compared to a 250F you would soon understand how 4 strokes kept older riders in the sport. Much easier to ride. Also Yamaha and KTM never stopped building two strokes so you have no excuse there. You should try one!
Haha you're so misguided it's sad. It's only ruined if you let it be ruined. No one at the local level is stopping you from racing your 2 stroke against the 4 strokes. Enjoy your life without a motorcycle, the sport doesn't miss you.
Poor Honda can never get a break
2014-2017 Testers: The bike has no top end we need no top end
Honda: Makes new bike that has top end power
2018-19 Testers: The bike has no bottom end we need bottom end
What the hell! We ask for a screamer for four years and honda gives us that and now they want bottom end!
It's mxa dude they've been a ktm circlejerk for over ten years
For me Honda should be at least above the ktm and Huskys
Im not a motocrosser and I do love my KTM, but you have to give credit where credot is due. Honda came out with a 250f that rips, but you need to be really good to use its full potential. Sounds like another 250f that I know. I guarentee the parts are cheaper on that honda too than the KTM also.
@@fosterschutt6125 Honda is perfect for aggressive riders.
Plus it has amazing handling and awesome suspension.
Its a really good package.
Ktm like the Honda is made for fast aggressive riders, its lighter but the suspension is not so good.
I felt the same about Suzuki forks. Most years "Forks are too soft, no hold up in the stroke, was diving for our fast testers". 2019, all new fork with pro level stuff, "Too stiff, blah, blah"
do an all out 250 2 and 4 stroke shootout. let the paying riders see which is better for them. include a cost comparison as well with maintenance cost. then maybe the manufacturers would have to bring more 2 strokes back to the market. more fun to ride and cheaper to maintain. long live 2 strokes
They aren't actually cheaper to maintain man.. Sure they are cheaper to service, but they need to be serviced so much more than 4 strokes that it's not cheaper anymore
@@dean8067 Cam-chain/head/valves/battery/fuel injection/crank goes out takes out the CASES/Cylinder head... Not sure what math you are using it is a FACT 4 strokes made the races teams budget go up 4 times. THEY are all parted out on online AUCTION sites - plus the no resale as they are a MONEY PIT. Top-Heavy aluminum WIDE frame BORING and the sport is in decline they don't sell well. KTM/Husqvarna 2 strokes have taken over Enduro off-road market - try riding one of them OVER HEATING 4 strokes in the woods.....
@@mt1885 Because what do racing teams do? They rebuild the bikes their riders use after every race, regardless of whether it was actually necessary or required by the factory. It's literally something racing teams do in every motor sport. Drag racing, F1, GT3 etc, all of those cars have their engines rebuilt before and after every major up company race to ensure no issues and perfect performance from the engine.
When you do proper maintenance to a four stroke, like regular oil changes and filter maintenance, they can go hundreds of hours without rebuilding any internals. I currently have 124 hours on my 2011 KX250F, and it's still pulling strong and great just like the day i got it from someone a year ago who put 7 hours on it. Motocross 2 strokes need to be rebuilt every 20 to 30 hours according to factory recommendations, and even the lower output, lower revving trail bike 2 strokes need rebuilds envy 60 to 70 hours. That's extremely constant if you ask me, especially since trail bike 4 strokes pretty much never need to be rebuilt.
Here where i live, which is a shitty country where everything is more expensive mind you, a 4 stroke rebuild kit cost 599 dollars, that's everything you need to rebuild the entire engine, top end, bottom end, the works, while a 2 stroke rebuild kit of the same caliber costs 470 dollars. That's not ad big of a difference to me, so even if you just needed to rebuild the two stroke twice in the same time you need to rebuild a 4 stroke, it'll destroy the whole cheaper to maintain nonsense.
Don't Eben get me started on the horrible fuel economy of two strokes that also eat at your pockets over the long run
@@dean8067 They got UNLIMITED funds Race teams do, if you are talking about them CHINESE rebuild kits they are GARBAGE. Like the 4 dump bikes - no resale and will not be running in 5 years they are all parted out on auction sites. They ain't selling hence the DEMISE of the sport.
@@mt1885 They actually aren't Chinese parts. It's a big local bike repair and performance shop that doesn't only deliver rebuild kits, but performance parts like FMF exhausts and does work on the bikes themselves too.
Picking up my 2019 CRF250r from Motorsports Nation in Plainfield CT. this Saturday and racing it at the Crow Hill JDay in the Super Senior class on Sunday. Had an ‘03 CRF450r and sold it in 2010, and bought my 1995 CR250r. I love the CR, but it’s time to see what this fuel injection and electric start is all about. Can’t wait!
Follow up.....could NOT be happier with my decision. I have about 10 hours on it now, and can’t find anything I don’t like. I am a tried and true Honda guy till death, but I’d say it had flaws if it did. All the bikes are really good these days, and 2-5 HP loss to one brand or the other really can’t be felt by me.
I’m a Super Senior B class New England rider and straight from the crate, this bike is a dream.
Very informative review thank you 👍🏻
Finally, a bike magazine that isn’t bias towards Honda or KTM.
I hate how all they do is focus on the negatives, tell us what the bikes excel at, these are the most depressing shootouts.
The way they describe the bikes just makes it seem like each bike sucks a little less than the place below it
I totally agree
Even for the winner they had so much bad things to say
That is what made this video better. Everybody else just tell ya whats new in each particular model. This shootout compares to previous models as well to competitors models.
I used to really like MXA, but it just sounds like every bike sucks for them, even their KTMS.
@@fosterschutt6125 i couldn't agree more.
I believe that all the 2019 bikes are good nowadays.
You can't go wrong with any of them.
I think the reason MXA was so negative this year is because they HAD TO give the win to YAMAHA and not to KTM.
@Maverick Farrah probably yes.
But for those of us who didn't check the website this video was a little miserable.
It was like " no need to buy new bike, stay whith what you already have because the 2019 are shit bikes" 😂
Digging my 2019 CRF250r! It’s perfect as far as I’m concerned. All the good qualities of my ‘03 CRF450R without seeing God every time I got a little whiskey throttle. Still have my ‘95 CR250R and will die with it, but am glad I got another thumper.
These guys are WAY off about the Honda too. Not everyone is an expert rider, and for a 54 year old rider/racer like me, it’s perfection. The suspension is amazing, and the power is spot on for an old B class New England Rippah like me.
Went up to a 49 tooth sprocket in the rear, and added the Honda steering stabilizer,which got rid of any twitch I did have in the front end
I just wish Honda would revive the CR lineup
Love the comment. I am right there with you when it comes to the CR line. Won't give up my Honda Cr for anything. I am looking really hard at this 2019 CRF250r. I have ridden Yamaha and Suzuki 4 strokes in the past, but always been a Honda guy. I want the best of both worlds in my garage
Best looker by a mile the Suzuki
Kawasaki, Honda, Suzuki and Yamaha.
That good!!
When picking a new bike, open multiple tabs on your browser. Then go to motosport/rockymountain//bto whatever you use on each tab and fill cart with everything you'd need to rebuild the engine and do all of the basic bearings on the bike ie wheel bearings, steering, swingarm, linkage etc. I'd never owned a two stroke. Now I do lol.
I recently got a 2019 YZ125 in my opinion, the best bike
Thank you for the video, ranking the same as vital mx
I feel like this shootout was slapped together overnight lol. Your 2021 shootout is way better! List the cons with solutions, like Crf250r pulled harder with a 50T sprocket and air filter screen removed etc🤘🏻
Thank you for the video very informative but a lot of people out there riding are not at the level of your Riders they will not find these flaws that you are picking out this video is great for guys who are at the level of your mxa crew I don't believe that any of the bikes are bad I believe they all serve good purposes in different areas me myself I have owned several different bikes in the years that I've been riding as a weekend warrior which most of us are when I was shopping for a bike this year I was looking at several including the Yamaha but the Yamaha feels wide and heavy therefore when I sit on a bike and it feels wide it's not for me I like a bike that feels slim between my legs that tells me that that bike is going to be flickable nimble and it will turn a lot better than a wider bike so when I went shopping and priced these bikes they were all way too much as I pretty much already knew that but I went with the KX250 f it felt good and the price was right I got the bike for 6500 out the door took it home it kicked over on the second kick I wanted electric start but I didn't want to pay the price fuel injected bikes are not hard to start especially a 250 I'm sure next year they will put the electric start on but I am not willing to pay full price if you're looking to buy a bike Always buy when the newer models are coming out I bought an 18 when the nineteen's were just hitting the floor of the dealerships
I’m just waiting on the 19 125 shootout
When yamaha first released their 2019 yz250 f i knew that it will win this shoot out 😍😍
Nice hand movements brro 🤚✋
10:24 then they would probably die 😂
Y'all were brutal on this shootout😂
I'd still love o have a RMZ I'm a beginner anyway. And I feel like turning is a good thing to excel in. You can add power to any of these bikes pretty easy. Throw a pipe on there. Maybe do a little head work.
i love crf
Wow what a review! it was the least crappy. Be honest, they are all better bikes than the average rider needs. Work on your skills and conditioning. And own who you are, it is not the bikes fault that this is as good as you are ever going to be!
Glad to see Caron brown in this
Hey I went to Seattle super cross and Carson crashed out in the restart of the LCQ. Have you heard if he is ok? He went flying.
How about tm racing?
Who needs 'e-start' on a 250 mx. Come on.
because, if u crash you don’t wanna have to get up and kickstart the bike. You can start it while you’re getting up and it’s faster way of starting anyway
@@isaiahwilson6225 That's part of the action.
why never do supermini??? 85cc + 150cc 4s
Very nice 👍👍👌👌
Just took out my new 2019 yz450! Sick bike, I just uploaded a video of my first ride!
"The Honda C ER F 250 had an eck-specially challenging powerband"
Hmm how can they not like the Honda CRF250? I've got the KX250F, great low end power but needs more up top!!
There is a benefit to each bike....which one to choose 🤔
All I want to know is what bike does the GOAT Artem Lobov ride?
Yassss Team YAMAHA for LIFE!!!
To me they're all good bikes. They all have flaws and they all have perfections. It really just depends on what bike the rider likes. I'm 13 and on an 08 rmz 250 Suzuki and it's the best turning bike I've had. My kx 100 is a little better in some areas tho
WHERE IS TM MX BIKES
06:28. I’m confused. How is the KX cheaper than the CRF? Is this true back in the U.S.? I’ve lived abroad for so long, I don’t know the prices back home anymore. I do know however, that the Honda is almost half the price of the Kawasaki here in Thailand.
Here in the states the KX250's MSRP is $7749 and the CRF250 is $7999.
Daryl Ecklund Dang.... OK, thanks for the info! The CRF is about 4,500 bucks here, but the KX is about 9,200.
TM Racing?
I haven't trusted a word you have said since 1997 I watch for the footage. I'll trust the word if the guys at dirt rider
The reason they closed up the air boxes is a pretty simple one. Accountability. If your airbox allows the possibility of dirt getting in through design, it’s a manufactures fault. If you drill holes in it yourself, it’s then on you when your injectors go.
I remember one year - 80's or 90's - MXA did a shootout and decided to kill all the bikes. 'Yamaha blew it.' Said the same thing for every brand lol. It was a little OTT but admirable in some ways. I thought this was a great/ informative shootout!
"C Air F 250" has now been engrained in my brain holy fuck
I think you should have not just electric start but kick start too because if you want to ride and your battery is dead you have to wait but with a Kickstarter you don’t you can kick it over and ride and your battery will charge as you ride
Gavin Bixler but they are tying to cut down on weight
Tanner T a starter weighs more than a kickstart
Gavin Bixler not as much as both of then together
And want my car to have a crank handle out the grill too cause when the battery goes dead...😜💪
Blaine Schuttler hahahahaha
whats he doing with his hands
Take a shot of whiskey each time he says "KTM 250SFX"
Cross😎🔥
Team yellow baby!
Woww😍
you cant beat twin leading shoes
Will you guys PLEASE hire me as your voice over guy?
Blue n Red are still the best color for me
MXA had to give the win to the Yamaha because is sooooo good but despite that, it represent it like Yamaha won because the rest of the bikes are not that good this year.
How can 2019s 250 models be not that good?
Witch year 250s generally were better than today?
2015?
2010?
Why shootouts have to be so miserable and negative?
Im starting to like vital MX more and more where they give all the riders from beginer to pro’s opinions on each bike.
@@fosterschutt6125 me too.
I trust them more also.
I watch all the magazine shootouts but now my favourites are Vital mx and kris keefer
what about TM?
Why not go -1 +2 on the sprockets for the crf and throw a full exhaust on it. That’ll make it #1 even if all the other bikes copied the same modifications.
The YZ250 has dominated for years
E-start, while a cool feature, is a non issue on a 250f. If one of these bikes was the best at everything and was super fun, but didn't have an e-start, then people would complain. Flipping out the kick starter and kicking it is part of the ritual. Now if it were a big bore or a 1981 Honda Cr450, then yes I could see why people would want an e-start. But is it really that big of deal on a 250f?
Make a 2 stroke version
put husqy out and bring a Tm ! we dont want to see 2 ktm
Mi sueño es tener una motocross 250
Yamaha 4 Life !!!
Yeah yamahaaa!
Glad I ride a 2015 125 yz 125
Me at KTM: you forgot Yamaha
Video: 1st Place Yamaha
WR450R and X please
Make Suzuki Great Again
Fr I hope they just pull a wild card next year and deck their bike tf out
It is good its cheap and nothing rong with it apart from the suspension
Suzuki does look good, best looking bike for 19. No surprise Yami, on top, KTM need to go back to cool on the fork.
Ayyyyy 3rd
Hello eh
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Nice shootout, now I don't want to buy any of them.
But I don't know. I always have liked Yamaha. And have heard alot of great things about the Yamaha.
In reality all of the bikes corner well I've swapped from a fc250 to the yz250 and they both corner really well, main bonus with the yz is the suspension and reliability
Way to go Yamaha!
Team yammy
I mean I know it’s said numerous times in the comments but again if your just a weekend rider? Get a bike that you are most comfortable with these guys are pros and can notice every little detail just a guy who rides on a Saturday by himself or with his buddies will not notice a single thing.
ชอบ KX ราคาเท่าไรชื้อได้ที่ไหนครับ
Yz250f♥️
Put a good rider on any of these production racer bikes and they would be even
If I were to buy a new bike I would go for a honda,yamaha,husky,ktm,kawi I currently own a 98 cr250r 07 crf150rb 96 kx250
GO UP A TOOTH IN THE REAR
The Yamaha is a good bike, but face it mxa has always been about the Yamaha. Been like this since the late 90s.
chasis suzuki honda kawa y motores 250 ...2,tiempos
y this man talking like a robot
Y A M A H A.
Damn they where so harsh on every single bike this year. They where just saying how terrible every one of them was
Kawasaki 💛💚❤🇺🇾🤙
Team green
Hot tip - can't ever go wrong with a KTM owned them since 2007
You need tos say husqvarna correct its not said huskavarna
husk varna
Honda would be in first if they had Vtec XD
Im sure i seen tomac with a electric start on a 450 i thought kawi was doing electric starts all round i think the crf got a bad reveiw seeing as it is a championship bike this year go sexton I CAN SEE A OIL LEEK ON THE KTM MOTOR HAHAHA
Ktm owns husqvarna, that's why they are similar
GrowingDownUnder I don’t know why they don’t bring up the fact that the reason KTM and the Husk are slowly losing ground is because they were bought by an Indian (India) company that couldn’t give 2 shits about their product and will destroy both companies in the long run.