Motocross Action's 2022 250 Shootout
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- čas přidán 20. 06. 2024
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Our job at MXA is to find the truths and un-truths of every model that rolls out on the showroom floor. To do this we have to put ourselves in your shoes meaning we have to live with the race machine of your choice as you would. We have to ride on it, work on it, break it, maintain it, and find the best settings that suit your needs. The process for us is sped up 10 fold by having an army of experienced test riders ranging in size, skill level, and age that constantly ride and race these bikes year around. We lived with these 7 bikes for many months and many races. Motocross Action's goal is to deliver the most comprehensive shootout in the media. The contenders this year are the Kawasaki KX250, Husqvarna FC250, Honda CRF250, Yamaha YZ250F, GASGAS MC250F, Suzuki RMZ250, and KTM 250SXF . In this video we break down each motorcycle and how they performed on track. We hope this video helps you make a decision on a new motorcycle long before you spend your hard earned cash at the dealership.
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Honestly it doesn’t matter what bike you get as long as it puts a smile on your face
Let me wife talk me into seeking my bike 2 yes ago couldn't agree with your comment more😢
We are blessed to have so much choice in america! Lol any brand new bike for most ppl would suffice! Lol YT makes everyone feel they are bubba! Lol
Fax
Lol for all the us riders yeah but I'm sure a serious racer feels different lol 😆
For most riders yes but if youre riding competition and you want the absolute best in class bike this video is really helpfull
Interesting on the KX250 talking about "sitting on the tank". I was always taught to put my sack up as close to the tank as possible to turn haha
They were talking about how the 450 frame mounts put the 250 farther back and doesn’t weight the front wheel as it did previously so the neutral position on the kx for turning is more forward. Each bike has a turning sweet spot except RMs. They turn no matter where you sit lol.
That's true 👍
It's because Kawasaki cut corners in manufacturing by throwing the 250 engine in a frame it was not designed for and consequently the weight is too far back. Also the air filter literally doesn't fit in the air box, as it smashes against the air box, effectively closing off part of the area of the filter and ensuring that any water entering the air box will be sucked in. It's a shody design.
steer with the rear like villopoto
Yellow 94 brings back memories
Ole kenny
Suzuki is my favorite and always will be ♥♥
Es mi favorita
My favorite bike is rmz too
I know what it feels like, it's like cheering for the team that finish last in the league year after year!!
@@Kawalecou It does not matter to me where they finished, it matters how the bike feels when im on it and its by far the best out of all the brands with ktm and yamaha in 2ed and 3rd but all the riders are chill dudes and the community is the closest then you honda and yamaha fanboys. us RM Army guys got a tight bond and we know that we have the best cornering bike in the class and great bottem end torque. not to mention the best looking bike out there.
Even your name says otherwise lol .Riding a suzuki is like going for the footy team that loses every game , after awhile u get good at losing .
All the bikes are good for 90% of riders. Just pick a colour and go have fun..
the RMZ is a great bike for supermoto with the stiff suspension
Love MXA! Always have from the 80s when I was a teen racing an '87 KX80 @ Raceway Park, Englishtown NJ. We had the "Kawasaki Race of Champions" there.
I used got there in the early 80’s. I flagged there once!
I wish theyd do a shootout geared towards the 95% of people who ride the bikes. It seems as though there is such an emphasis on motor. Maybe Im wrong but I think practically nobody is ever going to get on any of the bikes and be able to hold it wot..riding it to its full capability. So sure engine character is important. If you did all this breaking and rebuilding of the bikes why, MXA, would you not emphasize a category like reliability /dependability. Parts prices/availability..ect? I think if these shootouts were more practical and geared towards your average guy the Suzuki wouldnt just go straight to last.
They do it based on racing performance...
Funny you mention that. We have a lot of test riders that are vet or novice based. We don't just use all pro riders. Obviously the video has high skill level to keep the entertainment factor up. In real world testing all these bikes see a huge variety of test riders. We are keeping the average rider in mind. The results might actually be different if we just did pro level rider tests only. We also say this in the audio.
I gotcha..dont get me wrong it was informative and entertaining. I am just of the opinion that a slightly heavier bias towards handling, suspension, and topics like durability and parts prices would possibly be of more importance to the majority of viewers than in depth details at length regarding motor. For ex.. One thing Id love to see is a 100 hr review showing which models held up the best when being ridden by someone representing the average guy riding racing mx/woods. Which bikes needed fixed and how expensive it was..ect. That would be cool.
Get a Suzuki they said.
@@rdbs505 have you watched any of their more in depth videos of each of the bikes? They definitely add a little more minus longevity. There’s tons of other channels that do long term reviews of bikes as we get further into the year as well.
Also I don’t know about you but this video is already almost a half hour I don’t need it any longer lol. If they added more context to their decisions this video could easily be an hour.
So sad to see suzuki loosing every single year even though its the best looking bike.
I gotta agree with you
Supposedly the Suzuki is supposed to be all new and updated in 2023. I really hope so
@@dillonmillar5869 hope ists got an e start
They need to start putting more work into their bike they could be great.
@@daffyduck9901 I think the problem is that they pay more attention to the street than the dirt. It’s been like that ever since they lost all their big name dirt riders. Like Ken Roczen, RC and James Stewart
People commenting negative things are all butthurt their personal bias wasn't confirmed you guys did great.
How many beers deep was the dude that put the Dunlop sticker on the YZ250F fork guards lol?
I'd like to see the same shootout but in GNCC style racing. I live in Indiana and not to many MX peeps around here. There are 4 local cross country racing series near me. Showing how each one handles single track, deep mud ruts, rock beds, sand, log crossings, big steep hills with massive amount of root exposure, just your general fun stuff in cross country racing.
Love Badlands ORV in Eastern Indiana!
i ride a 21’ kx250 in woods racing and love it
I have a 2020 KTM 300xc I race mostly and it has kinda spoiled me. lol But every now and the i get my 05 KX250 out and run it. Two completely different machines. Love them both though.
@@cihracing5264 it's why I bought an 06 Fireblade instead of a brand new one. Took the 10k I saved and made it an absolute nightmare to ride. None of the crazy stuff on the new bikes to save your ass. Love it
Awesome bro.
wich bike has better and more comfortable Suspension im tending between a honda crf 250 r 2022 and a suzuki rmz 250 2022
Let's be real, any of these bike would be choice to own.
Kawasaki is 2nd in points by a hair, here in 2022. I wish these “shootout” vids showcased bikes that have the basics that are needed to make the bikes viable in their weakest areas, instead of right out of the “box”, with only sag, and clicker adjustments. I understand the idea, but it’s becoming ridiculous to watch these videos then Kawasaki, or Yamaha riders are constantly on the podium in the AMA. Idk? I still love motocross, and all bikes. And btw I realize this is probably directed more at the consumer, but at the end of the day….. RC rides a Suzuki. Yes I get these are 250f’s… just saying
Ricky carmichael RODE a suzuki back when they were still competitive, so far 0 podiums this year. Besides, most average riders are not willing/capable of doing major settings changes on the bike.
Well you also have to remember that all the little things that make the bikes more evenly competitive, they talked about certain things with a few of the bikes, these factory teams can change with ease. Besides, at the end of the day it is more about the rider than their bike.
What bike is the best for taller riders ? I’m 6 foot 3 and trying to get into motocross what bike do you guys recommend for talk guys
For me it really comes down to maintenance. I like to hop on and ride.
Which ones are low maintenance?
@@mattheusabrahamvandijke8809 Suzuki, Honda, And Yamaha
@@Moxdisse_225 what about ktm and kawasaki ?
@@Moxdisse_225LOL suzuki is the most maint. Any KX or RMZ 4-stroke prior to about 2014 are horrible. RMZ cases were soft in comparison to others. They are all better now, but still would not choose green or yellow for durability.
@@aenarcos7021 Most reliable for the last decade is hands down Yamaha. For the last 6 or 7 years KTM trio (GasGas, Husky, KTM) right there with Yamaha in terms of reliability and low maint. Thepy are all better now, but I wouldn't own a green or yellow bike.
Thats so funny bro I literally tried to find this video like 2 days ago but you hand made it yet, and here we are
These test r always at the same track same stuff. That suits about .01% of the ppl that buy bikes. But I’m a Honda guy. I like how it’s cheap powerful and a great steering bike. U can do gold valves for less than all but the Suzuki cost and have best bike on the farm.
Hondas are very good & Suzuki is real good. KTM Is incredible but overpriced! Grab a color an go! Bought a new '22 Kawi 250F this year over Yamaha & Honda an love it.
well at their core these are meant for tracks, and most of the factory teams are in california lol. So makes sense why it’s at glen helen, pala/fox raceway etc. and most people do buy these bikes for tracks not sure where you got that .0! frigen 1%
So KTM got 1st & 2nd basically
And 4th lol
Bro this is the top comment and you just spoiled the whole damn video
Basically
@@dangerdane8448 that's why you never read the comments until the end
@@yoairm5871 it was the top comment it was right under the title. I didn't open the comments
Great format, editing and content. Thanks for putting this together! Would also love seeing a trail based shootout with these higher performance bikes
CRF250X, Yamaha 250FX, KTM EXCF 250, FX250 etc
Guys crazy saying the Yamaha isn’t nimble. You can put that bike anywhere you want it to go. He’s never been bias when it comes to Yamaha. Always Austria bikes!! Funny all other shootouts put Yamaha up front. I like a bike that does everything not a couple of things.
Yamaha's have dominated the 250 division . These chumps are clueless.
@@herbcanter2114 there is a guy I just subscribed to that raced nothing but KTM and he tried the Yamahas and said they are planted so much better than ktm. He said the ktm front end never acts the same coming into corners and is busy no matter what he tried. He said the Yamaha is so much better and he will be racing Yamaha..I watched him test it at Glen Helen.
All those things you dont like are things i like in the Yamaha , its built to last and is best out of corners . Suspension is awesome ,dont change it Yamaha !
Really dislike hydraulic clutches; not needed on a 250f. Even Tomac says the cable feel is preferred. A lot of great bikes this year.
I have gone back and forth on this. I have logged about equal time using both cable clutch and hydraulic. To me, either one works, but once I got carple tunnel, the difference between the two became night and day. hydraulic reuqires less movement so it became my preference. But everytime I get on a newer yamaha the cable feels good and slightly lighter pull than hydraulic. Then, until I have to work it a lot, then my wrist tells me haudraulic is best for me now.
Some ppl even racers that want an easy pull put 2 lighter springs across from each other on the pressure plate. They have been doing that for years..
Ya got to love the triplets
Miss the TM... :)
My question is would I regret going from 250 smoker to a new crf250 or yzf250? I race 30+ primarily and 250b
2smoke all day
No! You won’t. Once you get used to 4 stroke power, it will be hard to swap back and forth and when 1 bike does it all, the smoker will be on the chopping block.
I concur with Michael. The smoothness and torque of the yz250f will make riding much easier..atleast compared to a 2 stroke. Downside is you may become lazy. Lol
Yes, I sold my KTM 350 for a YZ 250 and it was a great decision.
@@MRmwr2452 2 strokes are more fun
I got my 7th place 2022 for 5,999. Its a winner in my book
About time
How about a 2022 250 2 stroke shootout now
yes
It'll just be dominated by ktm husky and gas gas like the last few years lol waste of time.
@@XecuTionNxx Still fun tho
We need lap times. The feel of a bike and actual speed are two different things.
Things that only matter to 5% of people.
re: Husky gearing - going down one tooth on the countershaft, or up one tooth on the rear sprocket, are not even close to the same thing.
No doubt man. It's a huge difference!
I shake my head a lot when listening to these things.
What is that Motool Slacker digital tool @4:00 and how does it work???
Y’all should do an 85cc shootout every year
Team green is the way to go for the price, the maintenance, and the reliability!
Lets Go Team Green!
I love Kawis but reliability has never been an adjective in my head when thinking of them lol.
My dad has a Kawasaki Vulcan custom 900 which isn’t a dirt bike but me and him love it and I’m also thinking about a husky because I like them quite a bit.
@@Dogebreadzz Bro if you getting a Dirtbike under a 125cc Then go with Kawasaki or Yamaha, even if your getting a 250F, i wont buy an austrian bike, GasGas, Husqy, KTM i see then broke down every weekend,...Team Green is the way to go!
@@leadhead7338 i was just thinking between ktm250 and kx250 about the reliablity ? what do you think ? i mostly do dunes , so i dont want have a broken bike in the middle of my holiday
@@aenarcos7021 I would go with the KX for sure! the Austrian bikes, are so much more high maintenance, and more expensive to fix also!
What is everyone opinion on KAYO bikes?
I’m not gonna lie I love the cable clutch over the hydraulic it feels wrong when you pull it. It’s awsome but if they’d just make a cable pull like Yamaha they’d be nice. But then I have I huge problem with Yamaha now I’ve watched more Yamahas come into my buddy’s shop blown because of the way they build the rod and crank now with brass you’ll literally drain your oil and see it now I guess if your okay with building the crank every 40-50 hours then there awsome I love them but I definitely haven’t loved the reverse engine as much as my Kawi Honda or definitely not more then the kTm my opinion the ktm and Kawasaki is my favorite 250 bikes and I know the Husky and GasGas is mostly the same but I’m super happy with the Kx250 and 250sx-f
You're so full of shit ha ha ha ha ha . Yamaha's HAVE ALWAYS been the most reliable bikes going way way back . They virtually never ever have issues .
An actual honest review where the Yamaha isn't some god tier overhyped bike
Lol, which it isnt
@@MRmwr2452 yes it is, it has old ass forks with an engine that only boasts unusable HP. It's for the dude that wants a race bike but can afford the KTM
@@samoliverio7455 Have you ever actually ridden a yamaha? Yes, the SSS forks are really old, but they still are fantastic forks and without a doubt the best stock forks on any bike that I've ridden.
@@ukko1234 I have, forks were good, but that's not an excuse not to update. Now, have you ridden a KTM? You can for sure tell exactly what I mean if you've ever ridden one, they are for sure a race bike ready for the track out of the box
@@samoliverio7455 air forks are trash compared to sss
Always go for best handling
The reason i got a KTM instead of a Husky is because it had a steel subframe and was still lighter than the husky.
The real winner is the friends we made along the way!
Been waiting on this. Just can’t get behind Yamaha with those wide ass radiators. Sorry blue.
The radiators aren't wide it's the frame. In an interview Tomac said he actually likes it being a little wider because it makes the bike easier to grip. Of course to each his own, but you do get used to it. If you want a bike that has great performance but yet has reliable and durable second to none, then the Yamaha IS the bike you want.
@@MatthewCross929 I’ve been on one, just couldn’t get comfortable with the high and wide feel. I loved the 2013 but the rearward motor messed up ergos for me.
Yamaha rules!
power GasGas
I have not ridden since 2007 when I bought a new KTM EXC 400 and the power was not anything like folks describe the 450MX bikes. Any chance someone could help me understand how the 250MX bike power might compare to the KTM I had as described above? I’m an old dude now and don’t want to end up killing myself.
EXC 400 😃 I remember some guys used an exc 400 to do stunts .
exc is milder than the SX , also 15 years made those engines much stronger, but a 250 should be fine 👍
@21:50 wow the husky produces it's power down low... 1380rpm.. that's below idle ? :-D
Diesel Engine :)
Suzuki rm z 🥰
La rmz es la mejor de todas
Rmz ❤🥵😍
Any rumors through the grapevine if Suzuki is planning to get out of the MX bike market? too many years without any investment in their premiere MX/SX bikes.
I don’t think so. If you can find one, they do make a good bike for noobs.
Husky should come with a half inch drill bit hahaha
Yeah y'all full of s##t, I have a 2021 RMZ 250, and love it. Pass everybody on the track and in the woods. All you need to do to the bike is respring it, revalve it, exhaust, up one tooth in the back, run mr12 and tune it a little fat. The fuel and exhaust really give it more of a hit, and you can always out turn everybody else.
so spend an extra 1.5k?🤣
You still have some ktm on your chins...
Gee I wonder who won? 🙄
husky ❤️
It’s really hard to understand how the KTM and Husky are at the front. When everyday riders are choosing the GasGas, Yamaha and Hondas over them two. I think the testing crew doesn’t really represent the modern everyday rider.
The gas gas is good but it was a more cost friendly version of the ktm and husky and i do believe they used the ae48’s instead of the xacts for suspension last year if im not mistaken i could be wrong. I race with a guy thats on a gas gas 450 hes pro and he hated the suspension and his dad is on a ktm 450 and he had no problems riding his dads bike but for a average/below average rider you will never notice the difference thats what the shootouts fail to adress and they make people believe that what they put at the top is at the top but theyre on a completely different skill level
All within $1,000 might as well get the Husky
Thanks bro 👆👆
Man the Austrians musta payed good this year.
Yeah they payed their employees and suppliers good to produce the best bikes on the market
KTM having 3 brands is killing the parody in the sport not a fan of that at all.
Yz250f still wide and have always been wide
Van Helsing had such small Hands that his sizr measure 38 inch, so yeah, that is cool.
Best rmz always
let me be in the test group
Suzuki rmz is one of the best looking bikes ever, great bulletproof bike ,only reason didn’t win on this shootouts is because is the only one who doesn’t pay anyone to talk about them,doesn’t need advertising, all you need is to ride one and will put a smile on your face , this rides only talk about the companies who take them to they presentations
They suck bud , deal with it.
Everybody says they look the best and after all that's whats most important . As long as the bike looks great even if it can't compete it's all good lol.
You mean to tell me a damn weed-eater got first?!?
I only listen to MXA!
We understand why the mxa logo is orange 😝
The wr is exactly the same as the yz with the competition
LOL....POOR Suzuki... but Bro you guys and your Austrian bikes, just go with the KX's in all classes and you will be ok.
wouldint have a 4 stroke
I'll bet the farm you put James Stewart on that Suzuki and he'll show you different. I love Suzuki they handle and turn so good its not even funny they feel great also. It never fun riding a bike that just fights you to ride it.
Take these bikes trailriding and then compare. Lots of guys use these bikes for trailriding
cheapest ones r last usually more erelaible n sales.
It all depends on the rider I went up against a pro rider with a 250 all your brands I smoked them with a Suzuki 125 rm
Why dont you test the Tm racing bike 😠👎
TM didn't have a bike for us to test in the U.S.
You guys forgot sherco
Replace the spark plug and the suzuki is at the front
MXa are so Austrian biased . . . . and its a joke. The YZF has won every other shoot out. . . . Guarantee all the test riders ride Austrian bikes personally. . . .
My list: 7th place Suzuki they never do anything with there bikes 6th place kwai bc the Corning: 5rd place husky just bc 4th place gasgas it cant compete as hard as the other bikes: 3 place Honda is great it has everything 2 place Kim they Spencer mini kids that's why they usually win loretas they make good minis. 1 place definitely the yamerhammer aka the Yamaha dude they have everything they have Christian Craig tomac and thrasher and deegan dude they have gon a few years sweeping the championship not only that but dude the power the brakes you can definitely count on this bike
Suzuki is the best bike!
You can’t compare 3 of the same exact bikes. They should be compared in a group
I hate when they say the Suzuki will get past by all the other colors. it is about the rider more then anything.
I think the Suzuki should be removed from testing until they make a new model, and I'm not talking plastics either.
I love how butt hurt the jappy fanboys are in these comments😂😂😂
7.22.22
Dirtbikes are a solved problem, yamaha been building the same bike for 10 years because it understands that fact
Damn husky beat ktm
Ppl want the ktm and Yamaha bikes
So why did Christian Craig get the W then...
Because he's on a Star bike
Because Jett wasn't there hahaha
Ya but it wins.
Death, taxes, and Suzuki finishing last in any Mx bike comparison
suzuki basically showed his 2030 model :D
So what ur saying is a kx250 rides like a 125 2 stroke. Sign me the fuck up.
I you may have experience but not enough you need better riders I volunteer
Yamaha the best
And you keep saying for “fast riders”. Fast riders have suspension, engine tuning and exhaust. So it doesn’t really matter with 2 horsepower. These reviews are getting worse and worse. This is for the Average rider not A class riders
well A class riders go on the bike theyve been comfortable on. they all get about the same motor work done
Seems like the Japanese motorcycle makers just can't beat the Europeans.
When was a non KTM brand did not win your shootout
2006: Best Suspension Yamaha Kayaba SSS
2007: Best Suspension Yamaha Kayaba SSS
2008: Best Suspension Yamaha Kayaba SSS
2009: Best Suspension Yamaha Kayaba SSS
2010: Best Suspension Yamaha Kayaba SSS
2011: Best Suspension Yamaha Kayaba SSS
2012: Best Suspension Yamaha Kayaba SSS
2013: Best Suspension Yamaha Kayaba SSS
2014: Best Suspension Yamaha Kayaba SSS
2015: Best Suspension Yamaha Kayaba SSS
2016: Best Suspension Yamaha Kayaba SSS
2017: Best Suspension Yamaha Kayaba SSS
2018: Best Suspension Yamaha Kayaba SSS
2019: Best Suspension Yamaha Kayaba SSS
2020: Best Suspension Yamaha Kayaba SSS
2021: Best Suspension Yamaha Kayaba SSS
2022: Best Suspension Yamaha Kayaba SSS
At some point you would think the other mfgs would just copy the Yamaha suspenders....
2023: Best Suspension Yamaha Kayaba SSS
2024: suzuki wins the shootout
@@davewyatt1468 After switching to Kayaba SSS suspension.
@@coltonowens2742 hahaha
I think its a rights issue. Yamaha probably has KYB contracted for forever.