Nintendo Keeps Copyright STRIKING Zelda Content & Suing for MILLIONS | Nontendo Podcast #49
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I don’t believe kit and krysta were “bootlicking” Nintendo. They were explaining Nintendo’s mindset on the situation after working their so long and I’m not sure how you think they were bootlicking unless you watched/listened prepared to be upset. The two mentioned legitimate points that pointcrow may not have mentioned or thought about.
Overall, the situation does suck but people with the other viewpoint doesn’t automatically make them a kiss up or bootlicker.
While I still believe Pointcrow is essentially right, Moon Channel gave a different legal perspective on this situation that may not be so favorable towards him.
Yeah I dont see how it is not clear that it is not copyright infringment. Modding game is infringing on a copyright. It is not just the intellectual property Link or Zelda its the entire game.
Great video suggestion.
@@MC--- Carful with your double negatives. I think you meant to type "I don't see how it's not clear that it's still copyright infringement."
@@Hadeks_Marow that's a triple negative
@@enigmaoftheechidna6279 I am not counting "don't see" as that aspect is referring to "vision" (single negative) where as "not clear" and "it is not" is referring to "copyright infringement" (only double negative).
The difference is subject matter. What the adverb is being applied to. Tho, I can totally see your point.
@@MC--- You releasing a picture of the game is copyright infringement, you do realize that right? They can literally take down ANYTHING that's made from their IP's but just because they can, should they?
Of course not, I really don't understand how anyone is okay with this, are you a Nintendofanboy that's upset you can't play the mod because it's emulator exclusive? What's the deal?
I am genuinely curious.
The unfortunate truth of US laws at the moment is that mods are seen as sequels and the copyright owner can pull that content since they technically own it.
So the issue I have with the whole thing is that over the years, you will notice that the industry will always look out for itself, even to the detriment to consumers, even to the detriment to the games, and even to the detriment to the people actually working on the games. Then you have games journalists, which now a days are nothing but moutpieces for the industry, even to the destriment of the consumers and so on so forth. But who is there to look out for the consumers? Years ago, there was some drama with a website called G2A that deals in selling game keys.
While I still don't trust that site or those like it (and I don't advocate buying from these sorts of websites), at the time I completely advocated against it, because a lot of the keys that are sold on these sites are bought with stolen credit cards and often lead to chargebacks, which hurts indie developers especially, or are keys that were bought in charity bundles, which punishes developers that were trying to do good things. But now a days I am constantly left questioning whether I should have ever bothered defending them because the industry does not look out for consumers like me. They are always seemingly willing to do things that screw over those that actually buy their games legitimately, and seem to have little to no respect for their customers. Nintendo is no different. In fact, I was a Nintendo fan for much of my life, and have had an on off relationship with their products. I wanted to like the company because they make a lot of games that I like, but at the end of the day, they are looking out for themselves, they could not care less about the consumer even if it would benefit them to do so. So I find it hard to sympathize with a company that seems to view their own customers with such disdain and hatred.
And I know there are people out there that will pull out things like "Well, they technically are legally in the right" or try to argue that so and so may have technically infringed copyright. Again, Nintendo and others in the industry don't care about copyright. When it doesn't benefit them, they have no trouble ignoring copyright, or outright infringing it. Why care so much about Nintendo's rights when Nintendo cares so little about yours? And furthermore, putting things into perspective. If you or I were to physically steal something, we would get less time and attention than if we were to download that same game. The game value is supposedly the same, but because physically stealing the game would be harming an individual or smaller business, the law doesn't seem to care as much as it does when you supposedly steal from a multi-billion dollar company. And again, does not seem to care as much when the shoe is on the other foot. If laws are not applied consistently and fairly, it makes it impossible to respect them. And if the law is immoral in the first place (like for instance a law legalizing slavery) and it runs counter to common sentiment, then I would not be surprised when people largely do not care about it.
And even when Nintendo supposedly does good things like show indie games, I find it hard to care when things like Steam Next Fest exist. Instead of it just being some sort of sizzle reel of indie games, you can download hundreds of demos and try them out, you can watch developers livestream their games and chat with them. Steam shows you can be pro-dev without being anti-consumer. They don't treat fan-game devs or modders like crap, they even let them host their mods on steam.
I still think the only reason they came after Crow so hard on this is because of the proximity to ToTK. If this mod released 2 years ago I think they would’ve either not caught it as fast or maybe been less concerned. Ya gotta imagine from the business side, the suits see Crows mod videos as a threat to sales. Which is honestly a huge compliment 😂
Yeah it doesn't need to make sense in that way. It _does_ make sense however in that it's popular videos that are closely related in topic (BotW / TotK... That already puts it in their sights. Add modding to the mix and they got triggering noise on top of it.).
No!! They came after him BECAUSE he VIOLATED Nintendo's IP by tampering with THEIR product!! It has NOTHING to do whatsoever with the impending release of a new game. Now we have kids on another channel attempting to sell bootleg copies of a new game that HASN'T BEEN RELEASED YET and no doubt other impatient kids are wasting their money and getting ripped off as a result.
I've seen a few comments here about Moon Channel's take on this. I mostly agree with his take on this. What happened to Point Crow suck, it does, but he is not in the green at all. Involving money for creating the mod was a no-no. Mods are copyright infringement, but most companies don't care unless it may affect them, specifically multiplayer, which can be problematic. This doesn't make Nintendo the good guy either.
True, but honestly until his video I didn't know about the other companies that have done this as well. I feel most channels only ever talk about it when Nintendo does it.
My new life motto is " If I buy something, I should be able to F with it! " LMAO thank you Bob
That is THE quote of 2023!
I rly hope you don't have a dog ^
priceless!
@@TrueMeKazik -- Girls and peanut butter, I needn't say more.
Kit & Krysta explained the companies point of view, and how someone reacts if there is an issue with IP rights… calling that “boot licking” is ignorant.
Calling them ignorant for seeing it as bootlicking is incompetent
@@bonyteal200 calling someone incompetent without a racional reason is unintelligent
Moon Channel had the best response to this entire situation imo
I posted something along those lines here and my comment got deleted =( it would be great if they brought the guy from Moon Channel to the podcast
Moon Channel tried to make his argument too black and white by saying modding is always copyright infringement. It's simply not true. There's a great article entitled: "Video game modding in the U.S. intellectual property law: Controversial issues and gaps" by the Digital Law Journal. It seems like Moon Channel is trying to save modders from themselves with a bit of a scare tactic and that's fine and very much smart for him to seem like he's trying to save the backs of modders online, but the law isn't black and white. There's a ton of cases that have been won by modders recently and a ton that haven't. The law is a crap-shoot, definitely not as defined as Moon Channel makes it seem in his video. I know he understands this which is why I think the video is so one sided. It's really there to over-correct a mod happy internet that isn't aware of the cases against them, by focusing on those cases alone.
Yeah I feel the issue is with the fact that when we buy a game, we're only really buying the 'license' to play their game. We do not own that game since techincally the 'game' still belongs to Nintendo. We just bought the right to play it. X[
Agreed. It’s unfortunate but according to the law pointcrow is in the wrong here
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The first rule of Nintendo is, YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT NINTENDO. You play Nintendo games, alone, in the basement, offline.
In a game like the Sims, there is literally a setting to enable mods and it encourages them!!! This just allows people who have already PURCHASED the game to make changes to have fun with the game. I do not see a problem if the purchasing of the game is required to play the mod
That's definitely the way. Because mods will exist anyway, so making it easier to install them on a bought copy of the game is smart.
The ad segment this episode was a beautifully chaotic endeavour
Bob: "if I have a child and he's playing breath of the wild and presses the wrong button he can go to jail!"
Bob's moral of the story for today is... Don't have kids!
Setting fun aside, if Nintendo can't be persuaded or reasoned with via dialogue then it sounds to me like pointcrow and all those other CZcamsrs and content creators that have been affected should pull together as well as their resources and counter suit with a class action lawsuit. Maybe they can even open a GoFundMe account for that specific reason. I would totally support that!
Yea my thing is I'm tired of large companies like Nintendo creating huge cases like this and not communicating to their consumers like basic humans- but maybe that's just me. Unfortunately, though, Point Crow has given up on the case and has announced that he will no longer be entertaining any discussion of the situation at all (which sucks because I'd really like to see Nintendo get the backlash they need to become better to their consumers).
I want the best for Nintendo, but, as a consumer, I also want to enjoy fun things (community-made mods, playthroughs, etc). If Nintendo doesn't support fun things, I'm not sure I'm able to fully support Nintendo
48:40 when bob says "you did? Oh my god" my serotonin levels went ^^^^
The dolphin emulator's description on steam referrers to Nintendo as " the Big N" :)
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“I BUY SOMETHING, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO F*** WITH IT!” - Bob 2023
Its definitely a complicated situation
This is the one nintendo channel that doesn't shill everything nintendo does and it's refreshing
They still expect nintendo to act morally. Taking the stance of "why has my benevolent god forsaken me" still sounds pretty shilly to me, no different than an elon fan who gets screwed over on twitter.
That’s because they’re NONtendo 😏
@@Hadeks_Marow 🤡
@@Hadeks_MarowI don't think demonizing them makes anything better, though.
If you suggest that, all you're saying is that you want to completely take down Nintendo.
@@noahdavis7406 Calling a killer aggressive isn't "Demonizing". That's just proper risk assessment. Expecting a killer to be gentle is just stupid.
Podcast starts at about 6:30 after the Tokyo Treat ad read.
Podcast starts at 0:00
hey, fair warning, not a lawyer. but whether or not you make money off something does not affect whether something is copyright infringement. however it may impact whether the copyright holder thinks its worth suing you. however copyright infringement is illegal any way regardless
So what’s your guyses opinion on Moon Channel’s video on this situation?
Didn't this become a problem because he offered a guy $10,000 to make the multiplayer mod? Its been clear for years that direct transactions of money with anything regard to their games gets Nintendo's attention. Would this have happened if he hadn't made the financial offer? I don't think Nintendo would have done anything different if he'd offered to pay someone to mod the Switch console itself.
I like that small south park reference in the beginning
I want Bob’s water bottle. It looks cool.
The argument: What do you think would happen when you challenge a company who has no morals?
The counter-argument: I expect morals.
The result: A plea of stupidity then.
One is in the wrong, and the other is just stupid for expecting the first one to not do the wrong thing. End of story.
Pointcrow offer 10K to create the mod, so there's a financial interest...
Yep. It's an illegal business venture. He isn't just advertising Nintendo products, he's profiting off of their IP in huge ways.
@NotABurner you are living in a fantasy world if you think PointCrow isn't making a profit off of his content which is stealing Nintendo's IP. The mod is an investment for his business.
@NotABurner you're not even acknowledging the point I'm making it's pathetic to see
Mod was sold. From whoever did the mod to pointcrow. He's obsessed with recognition. That's why he was upset with smallant, and his pokemon mod...
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53:14 Blasphemous was quite an enjoyable 2D metroidvania style game. I will play the second one as well
im still confused…he modded copyrighted material…its not the mod that is the issue is the game that was modded…nintendo clearly states no modding of their games period
the game itself is copyrighted…not sure why its so hard to understand
Nintendo doesn't want you to extend the life of the old Zelda when a new one is coming out
Weed being a gateway drug has long been exposed as fake. There are much bigger issues that lead to addiction and hard-core drug use. The war on drugs was a sham. I know that was just an extreme example to contextualize pointcrow’s situation, but even that doesn’t work as an example
Actually, it being a shame arguably makes it more accurate to the PCrow situation if you ask me :/
The HP Lovecraft comment made me audibly go “OOOOFHHH”
“Oh okay do you have 3 friends?” Jesus Christ Wood 😂
Why is it so hard to understand? You don't fully own something even after you bought them.
Game companies should encourage mods. I mean look at Skyrim, game's like 12 years old at this point and is still widely relevant due to its active modding community. Mods are just a way for the community to have more fun and further promote and keep a game alive past its life time, something that is even more relevant when it comes to finite single player experiences, and if Nintendo wasn't so godddam set on hating all of their customers and giving us the middle finger at every turn, they would realize this.
“Hes close he lives in Connecticut”
“👏🏻 dont say that” 🤣
moon channel
The CZcams chapters is automated, I have been watching a lot of videos from 12 years ago, and sometimes the videos have chapters, and I saw that CZcams explained it being automated and something they do if a channel is in good standing.
🤓 I was watching SSohPKC, he is one of CZcams’s all time creators.
Love hearing RGT on the pod, you should bring him on sometime!
Agreed!
My favorite Nintendo youtuber 😂
YES!!!
Blasphemous is truly one of the best metroidvanias of the last decade. Truly a masterpiece, and one of the best NG+ options you can find in a game.
The style, atmosphere gameplay and art design is out of this world.
54:44
Telltale came back, actually. They released New Tales From The Borderlands recently, and they have a new game coming out based on the TV show Expanse.
Bob threw every Japanese treat looking for the Starbucks. 😂😂
I used action replay in Pokémon pearl to make a Spiritomb with the Wonder Guard ability and the moves Curse, Rain Dance, Refresh, & Heal Order. Sent it to Battle Revolution. Unstoppable.
That... is so F'd up man xD they could legit do nothing as you just willingly curbstomped the competition xD
@@kite4803 It also held Leftovers so I didn't have to use Heal Order as often.
And all 4 moves were PPMaxed.
11:13 the thing about point crow is. It is a mutiplayer mod. That opens security issues for Nintendo as the game is being played in not intended ways.
Imagine some sap puts a virus in the code and people download it then their switches get hacked
tbf, they would need a hacked switch just to use the mod in the first place soooo. . . ship sailed :/
The issue is, if Nintendo copy-right strikes Point Crow for mods, then Nintendo should strike ALL CZcamsrs who do so. Nintendo should follow their own guidelines and policies, but they do not. this is the issue with Nintendo TARGETING CZcamsrs for small inflections.
@@brojoshtobyturner500 They do, watch moon channels video. Guidelines are not a legal contract and do not grant you any additional rights nor hold any legal ground. Right holders can choose not to ultilize their right to go after infringers, that is why gameplay videos exists in the first place, because IP holders "allow" them to exist, not because they legally "are" allowed to exist. If you disagree with that, be mad at IP law in general. :/
And before you tell me what "fair use" is, again, watch moon channels video.
6:35 you're welcome
What if Nintendo is just striking PointCrow videos now so that when you search Zelda on CZcams it would show new Nintendo Zelda Tears of the Kingdom videos instead of PointCrow’s.
what sound desk are you using :o
pointcrows mod may not have contained any copyrighted material, but it was reliant on some - being the game.
It more comes down to modification of software, where if you legally have access to a game, you have consented to the license agreement which forbids you from file manipulation, and if you didn't gain access legally. . . well then you are pirating. There isn't a legal way to modify a file unless you were somehow GRANTED access directly from nintendo without shadow-agreeing to the software license. It doesn't matter what he has in the mod, if the mod messes with their copywritten software, that breaches the end user license. By that end, the mod acts as hacking software, which they "can" come after you for (not "should", only "can")
So? If you go out and buy a DVD movie, it's reliant on other copyrighted/patented material to be useful. The DVD player, the HDMI cord, the television, etc etc. Just because something is reliant on other protected material doesn't make it illegal
@@luftcorde that's a false analogy. copyright extends to modification of the game assets. no one is including hardware in this discussion.
and sure the argument is stupid, but it's still within the realm of actionable legal recourse.
@hitotsufutatsu2203 But his mod didn't distribute copyrighted material. Sure, it was "reliant" on some. But it was reliant on something he owned. Does he own the rights to the copyright? No. But he does own the rights to use the software. If it's his copy of the software, and he mods it, he hasn't done anything illegal
@@luftcorde the end user license agreement only specifies usage, not ownership.
purchasing a copy of something doesn't actually grant "ownership" to the assets. moreso it permits consumers to make use of said content within defined terms.
every DVD & VHS menu says as much - no alteration or distribution - even for personal use.
I cannot see why content creators don't understand that making money off of another companies products by modding and streaming or uploading youtube videos is against copyright.
Openly engaging in copyright puts you at risk, especially is the company doesn't want you pushing their brand.
They want to be in control of their products, as is their right.
It's theirs.
Simply because you are morally against how they go about issuing Copyright doesn't mean it's morally acceptable to steal pirate, profit, and support that.
Two wrongs do not make a right, you are setting the world in fire like this, and making no progress.
Nintendo does't want you modding their games, that is clear and these are adult babies throwing tantrums until they get their way.
Why not be real adults and call for an open discussion with NINTENDO on the future of mods and ninendo games and the community.
Lets get REAL guidelines drawn out. Lets not just poke problems and cause a fire in the community.
C'mon, aim for progress, not stagnation.
Having listened to Kit & Krysta's podcast, I think Skootish saying that they were 'bootlicking' is harsh, they raised some valid points. In the end, as sucky as it is, with the current terms & conditions/laws, Nintendo are within their legal right to do what they want. As other commenters have said, it is worth watching the Moon Channel video on the legal perspective of the situation.
For the sake of the argument: What if Nintendo considers these videos as a detriment to marketing TOTK? Like, these videos explicitly say they're mods, but they could skew expectations for people who are completely oblivious to what mods are or how they work. These videos come out in anticipation of the game's release and can sometime trend higher than Nintendo's own marketing, so it would make sense if they'd want to bury them or have them removed completely, which seems to be the most effective approach.
nintendo : HE PRESEED THY BUTTON HE SHALL KNOW BE ETERNALLY SEALED
As far as the transformative part of the video, the transformation should not serve as a direct replacement for the original work. And seeing that it came out before the original commercial did (official release date of the commercial) I'd argue the reaction video is serving as a direct replacement for it since it hasn't officially come out.
Fact checks, you play Gregory in fnaf security breach, And the main monster in chapter one is name wuggy, Poppy is a small doll.
Playtime is also nothing like FNAF, I was annoyed at how confidently wrong Skootish was lmao
plot twist wood is actually just Mario fro super mario 3D world in disguise
Get my favorite Nintendo youtuber, RGT, on the show. 😂
The part that annoys me that these guys don't get. . . you don't "buy" games. You "license" them. The difference is what you are allowed to do with it. Legally speaking, even if you pay money for it, even the physical version, it still is nintendo's property. You don't technically "own" it. This is why you see a "ToS" you have to agree to in game as well as a "license agreement". Half of the time it's in tiny text or on the box or some other place that you never see that pretty much states by launching the title, you auto-agree to them.
Second part that annoys me is that it is a hacking tool for copy written material EVEN IF the tool itself has no copywritten material in it. Nintendo JUST LITERALLY got someone to pay them FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE for making a hacking tool. This comes all the way back to the licensing agreement. Part of that is no file manipulation. The problem is pointcrow confuses "them choosing not to take action" for offenses like "don't make content" as "so I have legal right to do so since I'm not being punished for it". One contract does not override a previous contract, and "guidelines" aren't even a contract to begin with so "guidelines" are irrelevant regardless, unlike the EULA, which actually is a form of contract law that applies here. This is how you know that he is guessing and hasn't actually used his content money to actually talk to a legal expert. "I would like to defend myself your honor as I feel I have done nothing wrong."
Never take someones word for something when it comes to legality of all things, and never make assumptions on "ownership" as well as what you are and are not allowed to do in any instance. Contract law is BS (meaning, yes, it IS unreasonable, doesn't change the fact that it's still there) and it's EVERYWHERE. My ultimate problem is they are letting their moral bias take over what they believe to be legal or not and thus are more susceptible to believing in false claims that work in favor of that moral bias regardless of who exactly is even making those claims. If you (in this case, you meaning pointcrow) wanna win and get what you want, you can't think in terms of what's "right and wrong", that's how you lose and get stepped on by those who are ok with choosing to do the wrong thing. It's not "taking nintendos side" to state that this was the obvious outcome that he walked into willingly. You don't get to complain when you poke a bear or wave a red cape infront of a bull. This is not defending the bull or bear. This is criticizing someone for walking into a battlefield that they were not ready to fight. He is a victim, yes, he ABSOLUTELY is, but a self-made victim at that.
Has anyone else here ever heard of a Pokemon Mini ?!?!?! I just saw one of fb market place and ive never heard of it b4 myself!! 😍😍😍
Ok I'm going to watch the rest of this episode but Bob is a TOTAL MONSTER eating the kit kat bar whole like a DERANGED BASEMENT PSYCHO lol
Liked and love
Broooo I legit thought you guys somehow got Miyamoto as guest lmao
What confuses me the most about modding is how some games are so for it - like Skyrim, The Sims (at least to some extent) etc. But Nintendo are just so against it.
Me as a FNaF fan listening to this podcast 😢
I still use Messenger and I have an iPhone.
Kitty Big City is a must buy for suuuure. The trailer was adorable (and funny)
As someone who's a mascot horror game enjoyer, I was laughing so hard when almost everything they said to describe both Poppy Playtime and FNAF Security Breach was incorrect lol
I'm just a little surprised he knew about the Michael in SB theories to the point where he mistook Gregory for Michael. I'm genuinely curious why that is...
I was personally annoyed at how they looked down on FNAF. I've never played them, it's not for me, I hate _playing_ this sort of stressful game. But I've watched Markiplier play the first 4 games in the series and it was nice. Specifically they looked like legit good games. I can understand criticism towards jumpscares, but overall I think they achieved what they set to, the execution was definitely more than decent. Same with Poppy.
I've never watched MatPat's lore videos either, the games were engaging enough on their own. Although I did look up the wiki a couple times because I got curious at some point.
@@deraile I feel like if you're not directly in the mascot horror fandom, it can be difficult to like games like Fnaf. I mean, true, most of the games are just a conglomeration of png's, but I think it's excused by how amazing Scott Cawthon can make pre-rendered backgrounds look. It just adds to the realism, in my opinion
@@ivysaur2thefirst I mean any game really is "just a conglomeration of assets", and the illusion of an experience is created when it's well made. And yeah these games definitely succeed at that.
Ultimately it's a matter of tastes, and it's totally fine if you're not into it. And yeah this is what annoys me from these guys often, is they trash talk a bit too much for my taste. It's totally fair, they like what they like, but I just prefer a more sensible discourse I guess, and these guys aren't afraid to say whatever 😅
@@deraile Both statements are true. (However I was referring to how the main games are just png's that move and are animated like a movie, using pre-rendered frames to make it look better).
Although these guys are funny, I disagree with some things that they say. Like how they think when people tell other people to not be surprised when Nintendo does a thing like they did to Pointcrow, they're automatically Bootlickers. I think that instead it's being knowledgeable about what Nintendo is and what they do. Unless it's being worded in a way that's outright defending Nintendo, in which case it's justified
@@ivysaur2thefirst Yeah they're flawed humans and they don't care to show it, they don't care to be too sensible. Not a fan personally, but it's fine, and judging by many comments it seems it's actually a point of attraction for most. So whatever 🤷♂️ I also don't completely hate them either at all, I keep coming back because I like them a lot otherwise, this is just an aspect I'm not a fan of.
And yeahhh I see what you mean about FNAF and PNGs, yeah the layout totally fooled me for the longest time, I was convinced it was live rendered 3D. Actually prerendering like that gives it a distinct look/filter that complements the game very well.
I actually never heard Xecuter sold roms in any way, they're mainly on the hook for SX OS which is a CFW for the switch they profited off of and even more so, for their modchip, which is the ONLY WAY to mod a patched Switch (late V1, all V2 and all OLED)
There are now like 5 other modchip options.
I'm all for legal justice, but man I'm just honestly so tired of game companies actively working against content creators that just want to celebrate all the hard work that the devs put into developing masterpieces like BOTW/TOTK. BOTW is such a beautiful game built on an engine that will absolutely stand the test of time for years to come. I understand that Nintendo is scared of losing IP or seeing a loss of revenue due to conflict in the market, but taking legal action the way they currently are is such a pathetic way to handle the situation imo.
If Nintendo wants people to buy their products, I'd rather see them CREATE their own competition in the market. As far as I'm aware, there's no plans for any sort of multiplayer Zelda game built on the BOTW engine and that's really really unfortunate. It's such a fun game engine and I'd love to be able to explore all of its quirks and creative potential with some friends online. Sure, you could argue that a multiplayer mod makes it difficult for Nintendo to profit off of Zelda- but realistically it's probably the opposite. Fan-made mods typically add to hype around pre-existing games. They keep people invested in video game IPs that may have otherwise dropped out of public perception/interest. Honestly I'd be curious to see what BOTW sales looked like on a graph around the time that Point Crow started gaining more attention on his BOTW videos...
I've said it under like 2 other replies in this comment section, but I really want to see Nintendo fans become more aware of the power they hold as consumers over the quality of the goods and services Nintendo is selling us. And not really through boycotting their goods/services, but through the press and raising our voices against things we disagree with.
To me, the main issues I have with Nintendo are that:
- Nintendo Online sucks a** (everyone knows this, everyone has been talking about it for forever now, and Nintendo still seems to not care enough); it's really just too costly of a subscription for a lot of people to justify- and the quality of service we receive in return should be leagues better than what we are receiving.
- Nintendo is currently making themselves out to be anti-fun. Which is, to me, incredibly backwards for an entertainment company. Again, copyright, intellectual property, blah, blah... the primary good they have been marketing for the majority of their company's lifespan is fun, quality entertainment. What is so entertaining or fun about a company that sits on a mound of potential for beloved IPs, while striking down smaller creators that try to deliver what that company was UNABLE to deliver to their consumers in the first place. Like I said before, that's possibly the most pathetic response I could imagine any company taking in response to "competition." I'd rather see Nintendo take a stab at a multiplayer addon themselves: not complain and continue to underdeliver to loyal fans. I mean, just logically, what they did only put a *tiny* bandaid over their issue. People are still going to continue modding their games and consoles- maybe even more now that they've had their little tantrum. If they really wanted to resolve the issue, they'd understand that the only way forward is to do a better job at delivering what their consumers want in the first place. Not saying an official "BOTW multiplayer" *needs* to happen, but, if Nintendo actually cared, then they should have recognized the desire for multiplayer, worked towards implementing it to some capacity, or at LEAST have done SOMETHING other than leaving their fans to do their work for them and then (on top of that) criticizing their fans for doing their work for them.
- Bottom of the line, there's little-to-no communication coming from Nintendo about issues like this. Not even as far as SIMPLE email responses to Point Crow and similar creators who have been trying to get in contact with Nintendo about the issues for a RIDICULOUS amount of time now. To me, that's inexcusable for a company the size of Nintendo. If they're willing to stir up so much drama in the first place, the least they can do is use their words- even if it's just in responding to the creators whose livelihoods they are directly affecting, though it would be nice to hear them speak publicly about the issue considering VIRTUALLY EVERY OTHER COMPANY in existence is currently doing a better job than Nintendo on that front.
Sorry if this was a bad take for some, but this is what a disillusioned 20yo Nintendo fan looks like in its purest form. I grew up a Nintendo fan- it was a huge part of my childhood. Now, I've reached the point in my life where I have started to realize what corporate greed looks like. And the idea that a company that holds itself to such high standards as Nintendo is actively working against its fans and their creative potential is disappointing to say the least. Now, being a broke college student, I'm especially aware of everywhere my money is currently being fed. It's kinda sad that at this point I don't even feel like throwing more money to Nintendo. I'd love to get behind the TOTK hype, pick myself up a special edition OLED, I even thought about buying 2 copies of the game (one digital and one physical so I could share with my younger sister at home). Now, I'm not so sure. This whole situation just showed me side of Nintendo I never wanted to see, and now that I've seen it, they've kinda lost me. I want to support companies that support their fans. Not companies that punish creative minds.
That's all from me. Go spread some positivity. The world could use it.
I guess that EULA only applies to content creators, if it's just normal people like us sharing content, there would be no problems at all, but if it's a content creator who gets revenue for sharing content, then I think Nintendo doesn't want that.
"We should be the one getting money from the games we made, not content creators"
Something along the line.
Prearesting people was a plot in a 2015 Ms. Marvel comic
Of course I watched rgts video. And he mentioned this cameo
Can we get more people from the team in the podcasttt, they are so fun to watch along you guysss
YES
BeatEmOffs rags on sale now
my girlfriend and I, LOVE PLATE UP!!!!
dolphin emulator on steam just makes steam decks easier in terms of emulating gc/wiis.
I baught botw 2 times the first on Wiiu and just downloaded it on cemu to beat it with mods before totk
Real talk on the merch - collab with Satisfye?
They stopped making gameshark about the time consoles started having firmware updates because Nintendo could just patch them out, R4 and flash cards don't exist for modern systems too for the same reason.
I'm not surpised most of the comments are solely about the copyright issue. I came to the comments to talk about the Indy game portion of this.
Quilts of Calico is made by the same people who made Wingspan!!! Which Wingspan is still my favorite game, excited for more of the expansions to be added to Steam/Switch as the DLCs. Quilts of Calico to me didn't seem all that fun but now that I got to play their demo for the Puzzle Weekend on Steam, I actually am excited about the game. It might not be a lot of people's cup of tea but if you enjoy any puzzle games, I bet you'll enjoy this game.
Will they ever invert the watermark back to red?
Does Nintendo have a Eula for each game that prevents the user from modifying it?
They have terms that you can't modify any of their stuff basically.
don't F with nintendo. Imagine if musicians had this level of copyright protection for their music like Nintendo does its properties. Sampling would have came and went pretty fast as a means to take obvious content and put stuff on top of it.
They do tho, musicians usually ask permission or give writing credits when they sample. Only time they don’t have to I believe is live performance.
@@timdrake4951 IT is today, but during the golden era of hip hop folks were a stealing and by the time you could sue in court the labels n artists were dried up after all the money was blown on cocaine and escorts or whatever.
@@billclay2701 😂 ok, fair point.
Wood, play Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Future Redeemed, I'm sure you'll love it. Don't ask why, just play it.
Hey guys, love your content. Maybe you can help me. What would happen IF I had TotK, but decided to stream it before 12th mai /23. Would I get in trouble IF I was able to legally buy it?
Of course you would get in trouble.
Even though it was rough around the edge’s , I really enjoyed my time at portia for a good 30 hours. Might check out the new one.
My theory, Nintendo is taking down the breath of the wild mods, especially multiplayer stuff cause it's stuff they are putting in tears of the kingdom
Whether or not it’s “right” Nintendo is 100% within their legal right to remove the content. They are acting in their own best interest and yeah PointCrow should’ve seen this coming. I think the argument about what is right and how to fix it moving forward is a better discussion then who is bootlicking who…
rgt would be a great guest lmfao
So are these live or prerecorded
This is a premiere meaning it's pre-recorded. Once in a while they have done live podcast streams for patreon
Bob's got a car?
With #Nintendo's increased focus on addressing leaks and copyright matters, I can't help but think they're doing so to safeguard the reveal of an upcoming console. 🎮🔐
I love Scoot, but you can really tell he doesn't follow mascot horror, considering every character he named was NOT the right name lol
no they call them big n
they do mention them just not by name
Yo they going to Japan as well
looks like the issue go to game industry aswell, in anime industry this already happening for at least 5-7 years already, unless its english dub, not sure why when come to Japan dub people just got this manual strike(in anime industry), now Nintendo doing what most anime studio in Japan doing, straight strike content in youtube manually
My wife and I got all stars in overcook 1 & 2 just the two of us on every mission Wood just bad at the game🤣
Yeahhhhhh boysssss
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Dear Nintendo i want to show your Game on the Switch to a friend because he want to decide if he want to buy it. Unfortunately my Monitor have a slight scratch at the upper right corner. So the experience is slightly altered. I hereby ask for the clear given right by you to show it anyway. Please respond so i can avoid copyright infringement. Thank you!