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High speed landing. Flaps failed on approach. Air Canada Boeing 787 Dreamliner. REAL ATC
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- On May 20, 2024
An Air Canada Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner, registration C-FRSE, performing flight ACA062 from Seoul Incheon International Airport (RKSI) to Toronto Pearson International Airport (CYYZ) being on approach at Toronto Pearson Airport reported flaps failure and requested delay vectors to work out the problem.
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Flying in hot and a tad low on a no flaps approach is great fun
...in a full motion SIM :)
Air Canada is kicking ass lately. "Compressor stall" on a 777 and "flaps failure" on a 787.
They're shifting a weight from the shoulder of United
Are those planes boeings@@trk3707
This seems like as good as any time to ask why some callsigns end in "heavy". The co-pilot seems to not use that part of the callsign.
Heavier and larger aircraft cause much more wake turbulence. The "heavy" and the much less common "super" just denote wake turbulence classes. Per regs you're supposed to use it first time you check in on a frequency. Some pilots always say it, some pilots completely forget. Heavy means aircraft with maximum take off weight of 300000 pounds or more. It doesn't matter how many passengers or cargo there is. An empty plane that's certified to >300k lbs is always heavy. Super means Airbus A380 or the now destroyed Antonov An-225.
@@mikaeleriksen2994 Thank you for this. Learning more every day!
@@pgbrandon Actually you are only required to report Heavy on the initial contact with each atc facility.
@@mikaeleriksen2994 RIP to the Mriya
How come RED11 wanted the radar turned off? I know a little bit as an enthusiast but I've not heard that one I don't think
Radiation from the radar is not healthy. It's standard that they power avionics off when the fire brigade is close to the aircraft.
@@thebrickhiker makes sense, never heard it before. Thank you
As a federal employer they are required by law to implement _Safety Code 6_ as published by Health Canada.
It would be like standing inside a microwave oven when the radar sweeps through you. There's like a 100 feet burn hazard in front of a radiating weather radar. Now that has some safety margin built in, but you really don't want to be standing in front of one.
Unlike wifi or mobile, that one will cause injury to anyone nearby.
Why not land on runway 33R? 1500 feet longer and directly into wind!
Usually at Pearson it's because of noise abatement.
@@stephenp448 When you declare a Pan or Mayday, noise concerns are irrelevant. I would have landed on 33R
@@rocketman4787 True - I was commenting more on the general procedure. I should think that if the flight crew felt they needed 33 they would have said so.
They should have used 33R. Poor decision based on the information we have. But they may have had more information too.
@@stephenp448During a landing with no flaps? The pilot wanted the change. If it was a "noise abatement" issue he wouldn't have had the option.
LOL no - in the REST of the world, for safety reasons you ALWAYS vacate the runway - unless you are disabled or on fire - this was pretty stupid
Presumably that aircraft would then be pulled from service for repairs?
Knowing Boeing’s recent history I would assume so
The maintenance and repairs, at this point would be on air Canada and not Boeing
Yes. Common sense. If your car loses a portion of the brakes are you still driving it without repair? Duh.
They have to lower great to get flaps.
They mistake that a alot.
thats one airport im familair with.
Pretty sure i seen this plane come down. It was pretty low on brampton. Had not yet reached person was turning a bit too looked incredible and scary at the same time.
They made a standard, albeit fast, approach. If the plane you watched was 'low', however you are measuring that, then it wasn't this one.
@@johnellis5828 yeah youre right. it was 777
@@johnellis5828A "standard approach"? ROFLMAO. You bet. Maybe "standard" for the Cannuckistanian "aviation industry".
Air Canada has shocking customer service. Lucky the pilots know what they’re doing. They deserve more pay.
Why turn the radar off?
You don't want to be standing close to it on the ground I guess.
So people don't get RF burns
HOLY CHRIST - GET OFF THE RUNWAY UNLESS YOU ARE MECHANICALLY DISABLED - HUGE SAFETY RISK
Red 11 should have placed 2 gas powered fans by those 2 trucks to speed cooling. I know what he was thinking. That backbacon wasn’t going anywhere to fry itself.
why would you need to 'inspect' the brakes?? they ARE going to be warm - even with a regular landing. There is NOTHING that ARFF can do until there is fire/smoke - all FLIR will show is "woah, there are some good roasting BBQ temps there" - this whole thing is POINTLESS
Controller never confirmed ATIS received by ACA062. If this turned out bad, Canadaian Govt. would have been on the hook for millions$.
ATC in Canada is privately run.
What is “ATIS?”
@@jsj297 Automatic Terminal Information Service. It is an automated broadcast about conditions at an airport. From weather, to closed taxiways, etc. They are updated regularly and use a letter of the alphabet so if you heard Bravo 10 minutes ago, but the tower says Charlie is the latest ATIS, then you need to listen to the ATIS channel again to get updated info.
@@jsj297Automatic Terminal Information Service. It’s a continuously looped radio broadcast of active runways, weather conditions at the airport, special advisories, etc.
@@user-iz7kf1te5y thanks
I was in the Air Force, stationed in Drambuie, on the Barbary Coast. I used to hang out in the Magumba Bar. It was a rough place. You would count on a fight breaking out almost every night. I didn't go there that night to fall in love, I just dropped in for a couple of drinks. It hit me like a thunderbolt. I had to ask the guy next to me to pinch me to make sure I wasn't dreaming. I was afraid to approach her, but that night, fate was on my side. We laughed, we talked, we danced, I never wanted it to end and I guess I still don't. But enough about me. I hope this hasn't been boring for you. It's just that when I start to talk about Elaine, I get so carried away -- I lose all track of time -- not unlike Oliver in 'Jesus: the Man.'
Hey at least it wasn't ATC playing chicken with other people's aircraft. This time.