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This channel dedicated to upload ATC frequency conversations. Emergency situations, regular operations and funny exchanges. But also reporting news in the aviation field.
This channel dedicated to upload ATC frequency conversations. Emergency situations, regular operations and funny exchanges. But also reporting news in the aviation field.
We're on Oxygen, Smoke and fumes in the cockpit. Delta Airbus A321. REAL ATC
On May 14, 2024.
A Delta Air Lines Airbus A321-211 registration N379DN, performing flight DAL956 from Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport (KATL) to Denver International Airport (KDEN) during climb out of Atlanta, pilots declared an emergency and requested return back to Atlanta and reported smoke and fumes in the cockpit.
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REAL ATC - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q4u8q-cexyTe1aJysMVWkb7.html
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A Delta Air Lines Airbus A321-211 registration N379DN, performing flight DAL956 from Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport (KATL) to Denver International Airport (KDEN) during climb out of Atlanta, pilots declared an emergency and requested return back to Atlanta and reported smoke and fumes in the cockpit.
Main playlists:
EMERGENCY - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q63P53jaRdi3_yCRCx2GD50.html
REAL ATC - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q4u8q-cexyTe1aJysMVWkb7.html
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zhlédnutí: 3 459
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High speed landing. Flaps failed on approach. Air Canada Boeing 787 Dreamliner. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 7KPřed 21 hodinou
On May 20, 2024 An Air Canada Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner, registration C-FRSE, performing flight ACA062 from Seoul Incheon International Airport (RKSI) to Toronto Pearson International Airport (CYYZ) being on approach at Toronto Pearson Airport reported flaps failure and requested delay vectors to work out the problem. Main playlists: EMERGENCY - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q63P53jaRdi3_yCRCx2GD50....
JFK Controller apologized for his mistake. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 7KPřed dnem
Main playlists: EMERGENCY - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q63P53jaRdi3_yCRCx2GD50.html REAL ATC - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q4u8q-cexyTe1aJysMVWkb7.html CRASHES - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q6BOJgYIz1IBLYTn2bQuCHv.html If you enjoyed please support channel by subscribing and hitting the notification bell to get notified on new uploads. Source of communications: www.liveatc.net (usage permission) ...
We need to return IMMEDIATELY. American Airbus A321 experienced flameout after takeoff. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 10KPřed dnem
On May 16, 2024. An American Airlines Airbus A321 registration N162UW, performing flight AAL2095 from Orlando International Airport (KMCO) to Philadelphia International Airport (KPHL) shortly after takeoff declared MAYDAY, stopped climb at 2000 feet and requested return to the airport of departure. Later the flight crew reported possible engine flameout on takeoff . Main playlists: EMERGENCY - ...
Pilot Landed he's plane on a Taxiway. #N4525B Grumman American AA-5B Tiger. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 2,9KPřed dnem
Main playlists: EMERGENCY - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q63P53jaRdi3_yCRCx2GD50.html REAL ATC - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q4u8q-cexyTe1aJysMVWkb7.html CRASHES - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q6BOJgYIz1IBLYTn2bQuCHv.html If you enjoyed please support channel by subscribing and hitting the notification bell to get notified on new uploads. Source of communications: www.liveatc.net (usage permission) ...
ATC vs PILOT. Kennedy Controller Insists he's right. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 4,5KPřed dnem
Main playlists: EMERGENCY - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q63P53jaRdi3_yCRCx2GD50.html REAL ATC - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q4u8q-cexyTe1aJysMVWkb7.html CRASHES - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q6BOJgYIz1IBLYTn2bQuCHv.html If you enjoyed please support channel by subscribing and hitting the notification bell to get notified on new uploads. Source of communications: www.liveatc.net (usage permission) ...
Compressor Stall right after takeoff. Hawaiian Boeing 717. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 3,8KPřed 14 dny
On May 20, 2024. A Hawaiian Airlines Boeing 717-2BL performing flight HAL330 from Kahului Airport (PHOG) to Ellison Onizuka Kona International Airport at Keahole (PHKO) after departure from Kahului declared MAYDAY, reported left engine compressor stall and requested return to Kahului. Main playlists: EMERGENCY - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q63P53jaRdi3_yCRCx2GD50.html REAL ATC - czcams.com/play/...
Pilot Significantly Deviates from departure route. Endeavor CRJ900. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 8KPřed 14 dny
Main playlists: EMERGENCY - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q63P53jaRdi3_yCRCx2GD50.html REAL ATC - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q4u8q-cexyTe1aJysMVWkb7.html CRASHES - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q6BOJgYIz1IBLYTn2bQuCHv.html If you enjoyed please support channel by subscribing and hitting the notification bell to get notified on new uploads. Source of communications: www.liveatc.net (usage permission) ...
RATTLING in the cabin. Emergency return N8125L. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 4KPřed 14 dny
On April 22, 2024. A 1979 Piper Seminole registered N8125L departed Hillsboro Airport (KHIO) and returned after experiencing rattling of the cabin. Main playlists: EMERGENCY - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q63P53jaRdi3_yCRCx2GD50.html REAL ATC - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q4u8q-cexyTe1aJysMVWkb7.html CRASHES - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q6BOJgYIz1IBLYTn2bQuCHv.html If you enjoyed please support ch...
Airplane CRASHES alongside Florida road with 2 people on board. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 3,3KPřed 14 dny
On May 8, 2024. A Piper PA-32-300, registration N908DK, was substantially damaged when it was involved in an accident near Apopka, Florida. The flight instructor and student pilot were not injured. The airplane was operated as a Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 91 instructional flight. The flight instructor reported that they departed Orlando Executive Airport (ORL), Orlando, Florida, ...
Airplane Crosses Runway in Front of Departing Aircraft at Orlando Sanford Airport. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 4,7KPřed 21 dnem
Main playlists: EMERGENCY - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q63P53jaRdi3_yCRCx2GD50.html REAL ATC - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q4u8q-cexyTe1aJysMVWkb7.html CRASHES - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q6BOJgYIz1IBLYTn2bQuCHv.html If you enjoyed please support channel by subscribing and hitting the notification bell to get notified on new uploads. Source of communications: www.liveatc.net (usage permission) ...
STABILIZER TRIM FAILURE. United Boeing 737-900 Emergency Return. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 4,2KPřed 21 dnem
On April 30, 2024. A United Airlines Boeing 737-924(ER) registration N63890, performing flight UAL1215 from Newark Liberty International Airport (KEWR) to Las Vegas Harry Reid International Airport (KLAS) after departure reported flight control issue, requested to stop climb at 4000 feet and decided to return back to the airport of departure. Later the flight crew declared an emergency and repo...
NO FLAPS Landing. Rouge Airbus A320 Emergency landing with stuck flaps. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 8KPřed 21 dnem
On April 12, 2024 An Air Canada Rouge Airbus A320-214 registration C-GFCH, performing flight ROU1662 from Toronto Pearson International Airport (CYYZ) to Fort Myers Southwest Florida International Airport (KRSW) after departure from Toronto reported flight control issue and declared PAN-PAN. Later the crew reported flap control issue and informed that they had no flaps. Main playlists: EMERGENC...
Conflict on Final Approach at JFK. Qatar Boeing 777 avoids conflict. Real ATC
zhlédnutí 10KPřed 28 dny
April 17, 2024. Main playlists: EMERGENCY - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q63P53jaRdi3_yCRCx2GD50.html REAL ATC - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q4u8q-cexyTe1aJysMVWkb7.html CRASHES - czcams.com/play/PL4e7lTZsU6Q6BOJgYIz1IBLYTn2bQuCHv.html If you enjoyed please support channel by subscribing and hitting the notification bell to get notified on new uploads. Source of communications: www.liveatc.net (us...
TAIL STRIKE ON TAKEOFF. United Boeing 767-400 returned back after takeoff. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 9KPřed měsícem
On April 20, 2024. A United Airlines Boeing 767-400 registration N59053, performing flight UAL260 from Washington Dulles International Airport (KIAD to Adolfo Suárez Madrid-Barajas Airport (LEMD after departure from runway 1 right was climbing out of Dulles Airport. Meanwhile the flight crew of Aer Lingus Airbus A321NEO on the ground informed Ground controller that UAL260 may have had a tail st...
FUMES IN THE COCKPIT. Delta Airbus A220 emergency return due to fumes in the cockpit. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 4,2KPřed měsícem
FUMES IN THE COCKPIT. Delta Airbus A220 emergency return due to fumes in the cockpit. REAL ATC
Delta Boeing 767 LOST EMERGENCY SLIDE in-flight. Delta Boeing 767. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 6KPřed měsícem
Delta Boeing 767 LOST EMERGENCY SLIDE in-flight. Delta Boeing 767. REAL ATC
American Boeing 737 gets hit by lightning twice. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 22KPřed měsícem
American Boeing 737 gets hit by lightning twice. REAL ATC
LOST in FOG and CRASHED in the water near JFK Airport #N716VL. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 41KPřed měsícem
LOST in FOG and CRASHED in the water near JFK Airport #N716VL. REAL ATC
JAMMED STABILIZER + Multiple Failures. Emergency landing of Air Canada Airbus A330. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 36KPřed měsícem
JAMMED STABILIZER Multiple Failures. Emergency landing of Air Canada Airbus A330. REAL ATC
Loss of engine power and a subsequent forced landing. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 3,9KPřed měsícem
Loss of engine power and a subsequent forced landing. REAL ATC
Fatal Icing Encounter. Aero Commander 695 #N965BC. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 9KPřed měsícem
Fatal Icing Encounter. Aero Commander 695 #N965BC. REAL ATC
Risky Pilot ALMOST LANDS ON TAXIWAY. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 3,1KPřed měsícem
Risky Pilot ALMOST LANDS ON TAXIWAY. REAL ATC
LOSS OF HYDRAULIC on takeoff. American Boeing 737-800. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 4,8KPřed měsícem
LOSS OF HYDRAULIC on takeoff. American Boeing 737-800. REAL ATC
United Boeing 737MAX 9 Hit a Drone on takeoff. Real ATC
zhlédnutí 9KPřed měsícem
United Boeing 737MAX 9 Hit a Drone on takeoff. Real ATC
TURN BACK LANDING. Engine Failure on Takeoff. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 6KPřed měsícem
TURN BACK LANDING. Engine Failure on Takeoff. REAL ATC
Engine Cowling OPENED MIDAIR. Southwest Boeing 737. #SWA3695. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 4,3KPřed měsícem
Engine Cowling OPENED MIDAIR. Southwest Boeing 737. #SWA3695. REAL ATC
STUCK MIC lead to return back to airport. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 4,5KPřed 2 měsíci
STUCK MIC lead to return back to airport. REAL ATC
Airplane CROSSES RUNWAY in front of taking off Southwest Boeing 737. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 6KPřed 2 měsíci
Airplane CROSSES RUNWAY in front of taking off Southwest Boeing 737. REAL ATC
PRESSURIZATION PROBLEM. First officer's window not sealed properly. REAL ATC
zhlédnutí 3,3KPřed 2 měsíci
PRESSURIZATION PROBLEM. First officer's window not sealed properly. REAL ATC
It is amazing how inefficient liaison between controllers is on fuel, do they live on the same planet ? And did anyone notice how quickly the plane stopped on the runway, 46 dead and 89 injured...
They ask for fuel and people onboard so the fire department on the airport or rescuers know either how big the fire/explosion is going to be if it crashes and how many dead people they are going to be looking for. ATC is just doing their job. The fact people in here are upset that they wanted to make sure they got the information needed correct is ridiculous.
Guys an idiot!!! Infants are souls. How many pregnant people( not woman lol😂)
We’d like to get down as soon as possible. Copy. Please climb.
Nope… tell them you are on fire and return immediately. Smoke = imeadiate emergency and tell them you are returning get everyone out of the way
Atc again proving we aren't doing things right. Training or manpower something isn't right
Airbus again?
I agree with comments on here. Time and again you hear controllers asking for the same information numerous times. Kudos to the pilots for not losing their cool with them when they are themselves in a work overload situation.
Any infants on board while the cockpit is on fire 🔥. ATC are DEI employed .
Say again? Say again? Say again? 38000 pounds. Delta fire chief has 3800 pounds of fuel. OMFG DEI 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
slow reaction, still acting casually initially, while they burn.
Guy really thinks this is Mumbai traffic, lol
Pilots dealing with everything and ATC can't write down what they asked for. They said 30,800 pounds and tower said 3800 when they were landing. Why bother ?? "Do you have the names of those infants and what their birth weight was ?
Also speed assignments! Potential fire and confirmed smoke and fumes ranks as the most critical of emergencies for a flight crew and its passengers. Assigning speeds when that plane needs to get on the ground asap is crazy. My response to that would be “sir (controller), we’re potentially on fire, we’re coming in hot, speed my discretion all the way to touchdown!
Pilot: mayday, we’re on fire ATC: Roger, fire, say infants on board and snacks remaining Pilot: we’d like vectors back to the airport ATC: WHAT PART OF “SAY INFANTS AND SNACKS” DONT YOU UNDERSTAND
ATC must get paid based on how many times they ask for fuel information.
To add insult to injury, The pilot says at 02:32 that they have 31,000 lbs of fuel on board and the Tower later says at 05:12 that he has 3,800 lbs of fuel. What's the point in asking all those times if they're off by 10X? LOL
Why ask for fuel remaining if you’re going to need it repeated
Only if something could be invented that would help remember things, we could call it “Pen”.
Unless it was for terrain I was wondering why they had them climbing even higher when they needed to get back on the ground ASAP
Lame controllers.
Even lamer comment...
We have smoke in the cockpit Okay I’m going to need fuel remaining in micrograms per linear French feet, as well as souls on board as a percentage of the state of Wyoming
... and their names including pro nouns.
What is going on with ATC during emergencies? I'm sure it's not easy for them either... just don't know what happening on that of the fence. It seems like nearly every video has controllers asking the same questions multiple times... and since when did the number of infants become need to know information while a plane is experiencing an emergency?
Right, and then after asking multiple times about the fuel on board, the information got passed along incorrectly. Big different between 30800 lbs of fuel and 3800 lbs. I do wonder if they ask about infants with smoke/fire because they are more susceptible to lung damage?
Maybe an Airbus 321 pilot would chime in with the procedures the crew would have been going through during this event? Don't some countries assign a discreet frequency to emergency aircraft to avoid the crew constantly having to change freq? Surely the crew has more than enough to do and concentrate on rather than repeating answers they already gave?
1 thing I have noticed in waching 100"s of these videos is the pilots precisely say SOB, fuel, and it seems the ATC always ask them to repeat SOB. and the fuel weight. This doesnt happen in Europe, and I just hope it doesnt lead to a bad ATC accident
@@seajCharleston Not sure but I think some European countries do use discreet frequencies for emergencies. Could an expert comment, please?
Also questioning why they departed an aircraft prior to the emergency aircraft's arrival. If the departing aircraft had to abort, do they plan to have the emergency aircraft with smoke in the cockpit go around???
Wow
Many people can’t drive cars for ship so it only makes sense they can’t fly well either
So I assume the thumbnail is not of this aircraft then, since it sounds like they didn't deploy the slides?
Pretty sure i seen this plane come down. It was pretty low on brampton. Had not yet reached person was turning a bit too looked incredible and scary at the same time.
They made a standard, albeit fast, approach. If the plane you watched was 'low', however you are measuring that, then it wasn't this one.
Why not land on runway 33R? 1500 feet longer and directly into wind!
Usually at Pearson it's because of noise abatement.
@@stephenp448 When you declare a Pan or Mayday, noise concerns are irrelevant. I would have landed on 33R
@@rocketman4787 True - I was commenting more on the general procedure. I should think that if the flight crew felt they needed 33 they would have said so.
They should have used 33R. Poor decision based on the information we have. But they may have had more information too.
Total Fu*k up by ATC. "Sequencing" ...That's a fu*king MAYDAY, Sir. Clear the fuc*ing Airspace!
thats one airport im familair with.
Presumably that aircraft would then be pulled from service for repairs?
Knowing Boeing’s recent history I would assume so
The maintenance and repairs, at this point would be on air Canada and not Boeing
Yes. Common sense. If your car loses a portion of the brakes are you still driving it without repair? Duh.
Why turn the radar off?
You don't want to be standing close to it on the ground I guess.
So people don't get RF burns
Air Canada has shocking customer service. Lucky the pilots know what they’re doing. They deserve more pay.
Get off the high horse of dei, this is as professional and to the point flight crew as it gets. The diversity initiatives don’t get you the job just the interview. It’s still best applicant wins (unless you have a connection that is.) let’s congratulate the crew for a professional job well done
That POS in 660PS should have NEVER taken off without a clearance from the tower. "I'm having radio problems" is not an excuse, as he should have stopped his aircraft and let the Tower know that he's having issues. But instead that ignorant dipstick jumps right onto the runway and takes off... His pilot license should be immediately revoked, and he should go back into training.
I was in the Air Force, stationed in Drambuie, on the Barbary Coast. I used to hang out in the Magumba Bar. It was a rough place. You would count on a fight breaking out almost every night. I didn't go there that night to fall in love, I just dropped in for a couple of drinks. It hit me like a thunderbolt. I had to ask the guy next to me to pinch me to make sure I wasn't dreaming. I was afraid to approach her, but that night, fate was on my side. We laughed, we talked, we danced, I never wanted it to end and I guess I still don't. But enough about me. I hope this hasn't been boring for you. It's just that when I start to talk about Elaine, I get so carried away -- I lose all track of time -- not unlike Oliver in 'Jesus: the Man.'
I was in the Air Force, stationed in Drambuie, on the Barbary Coast. I used to hang out in the Magumba Bar. It was a rough place. You would count on a fight breaking out almost every night. I didn't go there that night to fall in love, I just dropped in for a couple of drinks. It hit me like a thunderbolt. I had to ask the guy next to me to pinch me to make sure I wasn't dreaming. I was afraid to approach her, but that night, fate was on my side. We laughed, we talked, we danced, I never wanted it to end and I guess I still don't. But enough about me. I hope this hasn't been boring for you. It's just that when I start to talk about Elaine, I get so carried away -- I lose all track of time -- not unlike Oliver in 'Jesus: the Man.'
When did Floyd the barber get his pilot's license?
Hey at least it wasn't ATC playing chicken with other people's aircraft. This time.
This seems like as good as any time to ask why some callsigns end in "heavy". The co-pilot seems to not use that part of the callsign.
Heavier and larger aircraft cause much more wake turbulence. The "heavy" and the much less common "super" just denote wake turbulence classes. Per regs you're supposed to use it first time you check in on a frequency. Some pilots always say it, some pilots completely forget. Heavy means aircraft with maximum take off weight of 300000 pounds or more. It doesn't matter how many passengers or cargo there is. An empty plane that's certified to >300k lbs is always heavy. Super means Airbus A380 or the now destroyed Antonov An-225.
@@mikaeleriksen2994 Thank you for this. Learning more every day!
@@pgbrandon Actually you are only required to report Heavy on the initial contact with each atc facility.
Flying in hot and a tad low on a no flaps approach is great fun ...in a full motion SIM :)
How come RED11 wanted the radar turned off? I know a little bit as an enthusiast but I've not heard that one I don't think
Radiation from the radar is not healthy. It's standard that they power avionics off when the fire brigade is close to the aircraft.
@@thebrickhiker makes sense, never heard it before. Thank you
As a federal employer they are required by law to implement _Safety Code 6_ as published by Health Canada.
It would be like standing inside a microwave oven when the radar sweeps through you. There's like a 100 feet burn hazard in front of a radiating weather radar. Now that has some safety margin built in, but you really don't want to be standing in front of one.
Unlike wifi or mobile, that one will cause injury to anyone nearby.
Controller never confirmed ATIS received by ACA062. If this turned out bad, Canadaian Govt. would have been on the hook for millions$.
ATC in Canada is privately run.
What is “ATIS?”
@@jsj297 Automatic Terminal Information Service. It is an automated broadcast about conditions at an airport. From weather, to closed taxiways, etc. They are updated regularly and use a letter of the alphabet so if you heard Bravo 10 minutes ago, but the tower says Charlie is the latest ATIS, then you need to listen to the ATIS channel again to get updated info.
@@jsj297Automatic Terminal Information Service. It’s a continuously looped radio broadcast of active runways, weather conditions at the airport, special advisories, etc.
@@user-iz7kf1te5y thanks
Wow, we're seeing so many of these near-accidents because of controllers trying to sequence flights too tightly. I wonder if pilots need to be more aware and ready to reject takeoff or landing clearances. Both the Delta and American pilots knew what was going on. The Delta was told the AA was 5 miles out when they were cleared to line up and wait. That means DL had only around 1.5-2 minutes to get out of the way of the landing AA - and it was still pulling into position at that point. (I hope I have my math right.) That sounds crazy to me.
A very normal human mistake. Who have not called a child the name of their sibling? (or of the dog)
Can't believe the aircraft tried to interfere with the tower controller's Jimmy Johns order like that. Good thing he got him off the freq
It seems like an easy mistake to make, especially if you have two different runways that start with a “4.” But apologizing when you make a mistake (instead of blaming it on the pilots) is the mark of an incredible ATC!
I heared in this channel for many times that ATC gives to pilot telephone number. I wonder what they are discussing? I though, all those invidents are investigated. So what for is this number?
Why is TAI570 shown to be flying 090 heading after being given 130?
magnetic deviation
Here’s a funny story about my experience 20+years ago with JFK tower.. I was just a private pilot in my buddies Cessna 150 (N60388) and was flying along the beach at 500 feet. I contacted the tower on 119.1, and called in for traffic advisories. Well the portable intercom I had in the plane was not working right, and after the 4th time calling, the tower controller said, “just open the window and yell down what you want, I’ll be able to hear you better!” Lol I spit laughed all over the panel..
We need more of this. We encourage pilots to communicate errors, confess and comply. It is refreshing to get this from the controllers, especially the NYC area controllers who have earned their reputations for being abrasive.
drug runners maybe?
Well...he didn't apologize until he was called out so while appreciated, it wasn't as forthcoming as we were led to believe.
Well, I’ll be proactive and say I’m sorry you feel that way!
All the title says is that he apologized - we weren't "led to believe" anything other than that.