YOU Season 4 is a MESS | Part 1 Explained
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SO YOU is back and they've split the season in 2, let's see how that plays out.
Who's camera lady? Is Rhys really there? What's up with Phoebe and Adam and why should I care? Why are all these people boring?
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That has implications...rip Amanda's phone
The hat was a good buy. I am SURE you will use it again. Unfortunately, a lot. Probably with the DC universe. Smiles, kid!
This is the best season lol. How can you be so blind? Watch First episode several times and you will see its genius. If you watch it more times, you will even find out what really is happening.
Its genius with many hints. And by hint i dont mean stupid rhy theories out there.
Joe dude is beeing framed by twisted Psycho.
Lady Phoebe at the party she always comes back to Joe to ask more question but everytime she knows more about him before he can answer. So each time she goes away and comes back she obviously only talked and asked about Jonathan in fron of others.
She even know his name before he can answer.
She the one who gave him several drinks 3x fucking times!
She the one obssesed with her.
Kate roberry. Of course its planed from the killer or side dude/chick who mocks and frames Joe. Nadia said: there are no coincidences.
And do you really want to tell me that Kate never saw Joe from this hugeeeeeeee windows at the appartment watching :D Its obvious she knew and she pleasuring herself in front of the big window.
Also Malcom dude proably had many many issues with women and thats why he said forget them they dont worth it they make life miserable and dangerous (not excact quote yes but kind of).
Then malcom lying dead on the table also a sign. So its a message. Everyone can see. Nobody noticed it? Not even Kate? Mysterious.
And here big genius hint. Whoever did this knew from the beginning who Joe is and just pretended dumb on the chat app like he finds out step by stept. Nonsense. Why?
I tell you why.
Because he/she cut the finger off. She knew Joe is capable of getting rid off the body or cutting the body into pieces and burnin and not finding everything. So she cut that finger off. Not for the ring just for the prove of the body which will not exist anymore.
Also classic crime literature has one golden rule: Culprit is always introduced in the beginning and showing up. Either physically or beeing mentioned.
And look at the start of the first episode. Its YOU and not main characters but Nadia is the first person in the first 5 seconds of the start which is shown in the library.
She also mysteriously went to the office of malcom where by "coincidence" Joe was to find something. Very obvious.
But I think the clue is here with Nadia and Malcom:
Why kill someone? Motive? Sex, Money, Revenge.
There are 3 murderers or 2 who help the third real murderer without the real murderer not notcinig. Or all together. But i think they act independent.
Malcom bro Hardling got killed by 3 people by each 3 motives.
Nadia, Phoebe, Kate
Maybe Nadia Sex
Maybe Kate Money
Maybe Phoebe Revenge
Rhys just background decoy for viewers. He just takes advantage to make a hunt game for public show so he can hunt down publicy with the people on the streets and by already knowing who did what he has the guarantee to catch who deserves it and then claim vitcory and get elected and by the hero.
Also very blind of Joe. He sometimes thinks of Nadia but blends her out because he says "i have more important things to by finding YOU". Its in front of his eyes but he doesnt even consider it even when she says or acts not normal and to fishy.
He is beeing played by someone who thinks or really is more intelligent than him fooling with him and playing with him.
And Nadia is the one in class who always claims that she knows better, that she smarter, that she solves it all and that she only understands the real meaning of words and actions and her opinion is the only true.
She tries to be always right and always argue against everyone so she can have the last word.
Not gonna lie, I saw the french on the hat and the thumbnail, and thought that was because you're Canadian.
If they make a show where Joe travels to Paris and it ends up with him murdering Emily, I will remain a Netflix subscriber for life.
Ditto, they probably changed the location to England because then they would have to explain why every French person somehow spoke perfect English.
That and at this point I wish they would just roll the dice and randomly mash up some of their mid shows to see what happens, I can barely watch anything on Netflix anymore, everything I care about got cancelled so what will make me stick around now?!
@@c.w.8200 I will gladly watch Teenage Bounty Hunters meet First Kill
I"m not watching either show, but I would watch the shit out of that.
Friendly Space Ninja probs agrees with you 😂
When Marianne sees joe and immediately leaves the busy, bustling street and runs straight to a side street and into an abandoned building I was like 🤦
Me too!! Omfg I have myself a headache my eyes rolled back so far
Same here
I know! I screamed at my TV
Almost like she wants to get killed 😂
During my medical degree, I worked with a few battered and traumatized women, and it's actually an unfortunate phenomenon. Women who haven't been protected in life may tend towards running to isolated, dark, small spaces for protection in the heat of the moment :/ it's counterintuitive, but our brains aren't always reasonable during a crisis.
the thing that i find ironically the most unbelievable about this season is that NO ONE recognizes joe?? i would imagine that a story about a filthy rich white woman going insane and killing her rich neighbors before baking her husband into a pie would be a worldwide true-crime phenomenon. just because he has a beard and dresses better doesnt make him unrecognizable. my guess would be that the photographer is american and recognizes him from the news, but cant figure out if its really him bc hes supposed to be dead. curious to see if that comes back in the second half
No they gave him a beard it's fine obviously
And you would think he'd keep a low profile.
The only explanation I can think of is that he's in England... there are so many "big" stories in America that the UK isn't aware of absolutely everything... so maybe somehow this gang managed to just completely miss the Love story in the news... but it is a long shot😅
I feel like that redhead photographer might recognize him bc she seems to frantically take pictures of him specifically everywhere he shows up. I was waiting for Joe's face to be on the news bc of her but since it hasn't happened yet I might be completely wrong tho
The Clark Kent effect is a real thing. A person changing small things in a strange place can make a lot of difference.
I understand that Joe constantly being surrounded by unlikeable characters is the point of the show, but it works TOO well, since you're practically begging for Joe to kill them. They receive too much screentime, and aside from Lady Phoebe and possibly Kate, they're all completely self absorbed and irritating.
Yeah I really only like Phoebe outside of.. sadly, Joe
I mean, this whole series is from his pov. He is crazy and delusional, what if he actually created certain details about people in his head to justify his violence against them? As time goes, joe have proved to us again and again he is really not that stable and hallucinates
@@AmandaTheJediRight? Sadly, it was her moment with Adam when they were talking about his kink that made me like her. She was so upset over the idea that he thinks that he’s beneath her. Made me think that she’s one of the only genuinely good people there. But if this show has taught me anything, it’s that all of the characters who I end up liking end up dead by the end, so that’s the only reason I’m not looking forward to the second half of this season. Lol.
I don't know, how reliable of a narrator is a murderer anyway?
Kate is basically just a british version of Karen, she's so mean for no reason, arrogant and self centered, there is nothing intresting about her, she's not even beautiful, she looks like a MOM, way too older for Joe, not to mention there is 0 chimestry between them and their sex scenes are soo......boooooring
I almost made a joke about gossip girl when you said Joe is surrounded by rich people but then I remembered Pen Badgley WAS (in) gossip girl
Thanks to Emily in Paris I know that Penn IS Gossip Girl
@@AmandaTheJedi omg, I almost had a mental breakdown when I accidentally learned who gossip girl was.. thank you, Emily in Paris 🥹
@@melhiott7977 it wasn’t even supposed to be him, the writers had someone else in mind but changed it at the very last second. I think it was originally Dorita
@@litneyloxan I thought that said Doritos and for a second I just accepted it with the brief thought of “why would chips do that”
@@litneyloxan Actually I’m p sure they changed it twice. One time it was supposed to be Erik and then one time Dotira
I find it so weird the writing consistently shits on the whodunit genre while also completely fucking up the execution.
I honestly didn't see it as them shitting on whodunits tbh. I mean there is that one scene that Joe says it's the lowest form of writing or something but not long after, he's called a snob about it and they make a point on how he fundamentally doesn't understand the "fun" of the genre. Which is what actually gets him into bad situations since he doesn't understand the genre.
they think they're being meta but in reality they're just admitting that they had no other ideas for season 4.
There's a purpose to it. I'm sure Rhys isn't real.
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I personally believe he, as a person, is real but the version Joe has of him isn't.
@@serena841 Yeah that could work in line with the theory I shared too. That'd explain why his book exists and why he's on tv. Sort of like Mr robot and how elliot's alter was based off his very real father.
I just can’t get over the fact that they apparently forgot that CCTV is a thing in the UK, especially in London. There’s no way the police wouldn’t know that Malcom never left the flat
CCTV don’t stop real crime. Plan accordingly
@@ericmcdonough6771 Doesn’t stop it but definitely makes it harder to get away with it. You can’t tell me that the police wouldn’t check every camera near a missing person’s last know location. In reality, there would have been a really uncomfortable investigation pretty quickly
@@katharina7502 Sure I agree, CCTV is useful in the real word
Let’s get back to this Netflix show. That is consistently known for its unbelievable situations
What do u mean flat . The earth is round?
@@santi_super_stunts2573 the earth is flat, but he meant an English apartment
How tf did we start out with Joe in a bookstore to Joenathan with the famous influencers while hiding from the police 💀
Ik. Im just now getting Netflix back after leaving it in 2021 and this is all such a big switch to me. I only just rewatch the 1st season 😭
@@Hi_buddywazup God DAYUM are you in for a journey 😭
The big fucking question is... HOW HAS JOE **STILL** NOT BEEN CAUGHT/RECOGNISED AND **HOW** IS HE ABLE TO JUST UP AND RESTART HIS LIFE EVERY GODDAMN SEASON!!!
He was throwing body bags in the river in daylight, admittedly early morning or late evening, that's not hidden at all and the chance of getting seen on camera or by a walker is very high.
This show assumes were all idiots.
He have been caught almost immediately.
Seriously biggest plot hole , but in this part there is a journalist or something who seems to recognise him and taking pictures of him along with other photographers , maybe he will get caught this time .
Now that he hasn't been caught doesn't make any sense at all but that he hasn't been recognized might just be very hard to show without making the character have a plastic surgery and giving the actor an entire over-haul which wouldn't be that nice really
Or they just wanted to go with superman logic idk lol
@@MrThebigcheese75 yeah that is one of the things that annoy me the most. All of these things happen because apparently no one uses fucking curtains and because Joe is doing very stupid stuff all the time. Like cutting a whole man into pieces at a place where the owner just left for a little break is just dumb. Walking through houses and just hoping you won't meet anyone in there like come on. Way too risky to do that in real life
Idk. Ted Bundy did it.
I like that they switched up the formula somewhat. Rather than Joe obsessing over a new "You", he's gained his own stalker in Rhys, who may or may not be all in his head...
Rhys is definitely a real person, but is Joe's Rhys a real person? That's harder to figure out.
@@AmandaTheJedi Joe’s Rhys is 100% not real. Nobody else acknowledges him and when Joe does acknowledge him publicly, people think Joe’s talking to himself.
@@notamberp **disregard, didn't catch that you specified JOE'S Rhys** Yeah but Rhys is a real individual. He wrote a book that other people have interracted with, the others talk about him and he gave a speech at a funeral. But I don't think the one Joe talks to is really there
@@notamberpSeriously. I thought from the get-go that Joe was just doing all of this shit himself. He found a new girl he wants and made it clear that he wasn’t going to get involved, but then her boyfriend dies and then this douchebag “artist” who’s making her life difficult dies and then this woman who she has a problem with dies. It’s literally his MO all over again, but now he has someone texting him on an app that conveniently auto-deletes the texts as soon as they’re read so he can’t prove that he’s even getting them? And the people who are getting killed are also having their body parts, that have jewelry on them, cut off conveniently after he watched Kate get mugged for her expensive watch.
And when Gemma died, I thought it was crazy convenient how it seemed to happen when he “slipped up” and got caught snooping in that one guy’s room, as if he was trying to establish an alibi for himself.
Despite how transparent this season seems to be, I still like it so much more than the previous season.
It's a theory, but i also think a part of new formula is that Marienne rejecting Joe and getting away from him, makes her the only girl who did it successfully, therefore that event could have triggered Joe to become a better person, not to be obsessed over a girl anymore and everything else. However what is truly happening, is Joe created that Rhys personality in himself who still kills all these rich people due to his obsession with Kate. So Joe is still the same Joe we know, the difference this time is that he doesn't accept himself for who he actually is unlike the previous seasons.
The issue is, even if the characters are supposed to be awful on purpose, it still leaves you watching a show filled with awful characters
Exactly and the "decent" people don't have enough character development or screen time for us to really gaf about them.
I think they did a good job in season two where the main antagonist Love is technically a terrible person but still enjoyable to watch and follow around. Literally when the season ended my boyfriend said “rip she was a real one” even tho she was a psycho unstable killer. This season however…
This is kind of the problem I have with Amanda's channel here. I love her, I love the good reviews but the majority of the time it's just me learning about terrible shows and movies I don't care about at all.
@@Pixieee885Your bf is not okay lol
I think this definitely depends on how you like to watch shows
I don't really care if the characters I enjoy are evil people as long as they're fun to watch and interesting to analyze. One of my favorite characters in A:TLA is Azula. One of my favorite characters in Genshin is Dottore. I don't simp for either of them (stop, Azula is 14) I just like that they're a perspective so far removed from my own that it's mentally stimulating to try and understand them
I have a huge amount of empathy, so I usually like characters that are very selfish and don't have any empathy, as long as they're written to not be a comical evil and are still written to be something that could exist (I don't like canon Ozai at all. I have so many HC about him that give him basic depth and I like that version)
I would also like to draw the line between a bad person and a bad character. A bad person is about morality and hurting others. A bad character is about writing flaws, lack of substance, etc. (The definition of a bad character definitely depends on what your story is trying to accomplish. Very simple characters have their place) Someone can be a good person but a bad character. (for example, a Mary Sue) Someone can be a bad person but a good character. (For example, Azula)
For this season, it seems to be bad characters and bad people
i just can’t get over how he got involved in a group of that status so fast
You’d be surprised. I went to one party my friend invited me to at his Uni in Edinburgh. Among many other people attending, someone who was 18th in line to the throne of the British monarchy. It’s easier than you’d imagine to just become part of that group. Rich people can be like that, just accepting you in. Maybe it’s because you’re a novelty, and they don’t hang around with non-rich people, I really don’t know. It was certainly a strange experience though.
look at Anna Delvey’s real story…You get introduced and then you’re in.
10:33 “The lowest form of literature.”
The ghost of Agatha Christie: “I BEG YOUR FUCKING PARDON!!?”
Exactly what I was thinking.
I WAS THINKING THE SAME
So here’s a theory: not only Joe’s scenes with Rhys are all in his head, but also the ones with Elliot. I found the setup of Joe’s fake identity in London to be too easy. My guess is that something else happened when he saw Marianne but he doesn’t want to deal with it, hence all these imaginary people giving him excuses for his actions.
I also wondered if Elliot was legit but it seemed less pressing than Rhys being fake
That's actually a good observation, I never noticed that. You are right that the whole thing was too easy
I really hope this is the case, I'm getting sick of rooting for the killer
@@destaabigael9004 It is quite obvious, Phys always only talk to Joe.
Ok but how did he get his Johnathan Moore identity without Elliott?
Oh holy cow I did not realize Rhys never talked to anyone else. We better not have to wait for the second half and find out that it's in Joe's head.
If that's the case I can't imagine they reveal that before the premiere date. Otherwise they woulda dropped it in part 1
@@AmandaTheJedi well Penn Badgley did just do a tiktok of Taylor Swift's antihero.....so maybe he's telling us.
Also notice how the murders happen while Joe is passed out
God that twist has been done to death now. I hope that doesn't happen
It sure does seem like we have a fight club situation on our hands
I'm a firm believer in this season ending with a fight club like reveal.
Yep, I'm anticipating Rhys being all in Joe's mind, since he's the only person shown interacting with him.
Yeah Rhys is a real person, but I don't know if Joe's ever actually around him
That's what it sounded like to me too lol
@@AmandaTheJedi If you rewatch the episodes it is extremely obvious Joe made up this version of Rhys.
I kinda want an Agatha Christie-style reveal-- give me multiple people working together to commit the murders and scare Joe.
Best comedy on netflix recently. I legit cracked up several times because of how ridiculous it is. Love it in a "so dumb it's good" way
And they will continue to give you bullshit like this as long as there are plenty of sheep watching this garbage.
Gosh, you seriously don't know any more what good shows are. You got so used to this cheap, lazy shit with plots as shallow as a TicTok-video.
Really? I found it dumb but not funny. I felt like we were in a completely different universe, because it wasn't England.
I was disappointed by the killer reveal - they had so many better options… I wished we’d gone the “Joe in Paris + bringing Jenna Ortega back” route
Bro lol if Jenna Ortega showed up in there it would've became crazy
show didn’t end yet, we don’t really know who the killer is, I still think its joe
Same but I think the redeeming plot twist is that Ryse is in Joe's imagination and Joe has been the killer all along
i like the idea of JOE being stalked but this season felt so different to everything else, i liked it but it didn’t feel like it was the same show.
Danm i though i was the only one yea it feels like a different show for me too which i dont like do
I actually like it better because it’s different.
I wasn’t even going to watch it At first because by half was through season 3 I was getting bored with all the many killings him and love were doing and stupidly getting away with it.
in fact it started getting ridiculous way before that when love turned out to be a murderous psycho as well.
At least this seasons whodunnit is a bit more intriguing!
What do we think Joe said to Phoebe that made her like him so much? I think that’s going to come back somehow, but I can’t figure out how.
Tumbleweed.
I genuinely think a lot of this season is just going on in Joe's head. At first I did believe that Rhys was the actual killer, that Joe was just being stalked by him and maybe he actually was trying to turn his life around due to his fixation on Marianne. Even after becoming a bit obsessed with Kate, Joe was still referring to Marianne as the "you" of the season in the first episode, so I figured the season would be about him trying to prove his innocence, find this stalker, and eventually end up with Marianne.
However, after seeing a lot of these theories online, I do believe that most of what we've seen this season is all in Joe's head. I think Rhys is a real person who is an acquaintance of the rich friend group, but does not actually like any of them all that much and is much more open about his dislike for them than the rest of them are (ie they're all catty about it), which is why he didn't show up to the mansion party. But I think he actually has not been present at all in the show. Like Amanda said, all of his scenes have been with Joe and no one else has acknowledged him besides the mansion party when it's mentioned that he refused to go. I think that Joe did meet Rhys at the bar in episode one, and then made yet another ideal version of Rhys (the same way he did with Beck and Love), but this time the ideal version was the murderer who was trying to frame Joe so that Joe could believe he was changing and that he's an innocent man.
I also genuinely think that Joe did kill Marianne. For the past three seasons, Joe has proven that if the woman he's obsessed with does not turn out to fit the fantasy he has in his head about them, that he'll kill them. Love even said it best last season, "If I'm not good enough for you, you'll kill me", and then he did. I think that Joe let Marianne go, letting her think that he wasn't going to hurt her and that he did actually want to change in hopes of winning Marianne back, but then he snapped after she was gone and went after her to kill her. I think that's why he actually has her necklace, because he took yet another souvenir after killing another woman who didn't meet his expectations.
I think the season is going to end with Joe realizing all of this and he's going to snap worse than he has before, potentially leading to a series finale where he's finally taken down maybe? (I'm not sure if You has been picked up for a season five but I hope they haven't cause I do think it's time to end the show now)
I think they never met, all their interactions are in Joe's head. He read the book, really liked it and got obsessed with Rhys (classic Joe) so he made him his alter ego
sure sure Joe always the bad one.
Love tried to cut him into pieces by trying poisining him. So of course he kills her in the last moment out of self defence. He waited if she really is doing it until last second. But of course Joe is to be blamed....LOL
Whatever, it will end as a total unsatisfying incoherent mess. It's time for this lazy bullshit to stop.
The psyche of people doesn't work like this and the writers couldn't even persuade 6 year olds with their idiotic plot.
@@zarosderer4447 are you...trying to defend this murderer?
@@dyingforeddiemunson Yes. He did not murder, it was always self defence. So live with it those bitchez and dudes did it to themselves
aslo the first message Rhys sent to Joe was "Hello, you" but that was a catchphrase he only used in his head, he never said it outloud to anyone, that's why Rhys, at least the killer Rhys, only exists in Joe's imagination. I think the only time they actually met was in the nightclub before Joe got blackout drunk. Then Ryhs actually went to Germany and didn't come back for a while. Also in the dinner table, when Rhys asked if Joe was ok and Joe replied, everyone stopped talking, and Phoebe's boyfriend asked him about it. Almost like he was talking to himself.
But I also feel like the shows writers just think every crazy murderer thinks the same dumb shit and joe isn’t special , just a batch a dozen
I don't think they ever met, at the nightclub rhys referred to joe as "the new one" but in the end when he was leaving, he called him jonathan when joe never said it
@@santi_super_stunts2573 Yeah I think we're all giving the writers way too much credit with these theories lol
Because nobody else has ever started a message with "hello you" lol
I always thought Nadia was the killer since she's connected with Malcolm and kinda knows the moves before they happen. I think she still could turn out to be Rhys's accomplice because she was the one who gave Joe his book.
remember the scene where joe returns her letter and suggests that she was in love with malcolm? to me her reaction seemed a little bit different from just being embarrassed for being naive and falling for your professor...
Also, if you rewatch the classroom scene where the news about Malcom’s finger comes out, Nadia leans under her desk (like she is checking her phone), then Joe gets a text from the killer. I definitely thought it was her.
I thought about her too. She seems like the only genuinely good person in this season. Like devonbriney, I also noticed timing of her reaching for something as Joe receives a text.
A young college student being the serial killer who targets the rich would’ve been great, especially if Joe felt that she was a good person and that he wanted to help her but it turns out he was blind to *another* killer.
Imo she could be the one to kill him in the end or at least try.
The problem with this after season 1 is this is now Dexter. This show should have been a one season drop the mic thing as it told a very specific story about a sociopath who wooed a girl he was stalking, then killed her. The season followed the book and if there was ever a show that should have been a single season, it was this one.
People have said it has not been great since and that really is the reason. Joe obsessing over some new woman took away from the home run first season and what made it special. And frankly the plot twists of the last couple years (oof a woman just like him and now a murder couple!) have been much more unbelievable and campy in its premise.
Gemma's body fish-flopping out the bottom of the broken chest was the hardest and loudest I've laughed at anything in any media in years. Part 1 was worth it for that moment alone.
Oh, and I think Nadia is in on it somehow.
same. I didn’t expect it and I laughed after my jaw dropped
Omg! Finally someone who notices Nadia's involvement as odd!
@@MimiRox13 what ab it is odd? i think she’s just a normal human being caught up in sumthing & trying to keep others safe. maybe it jus seems odd bc most ppl are bystanders. she’s jus perceptive. pls explain what makes u think she could be involved somehow bc i haven’t noticed anything. it’s an interesting theory but where’s the hints??
There is another important detail in the trailer that was overlooked - Joe opening up a container/Tupperware in the kitchen and staring at its contents. I have a feeling it's Simon Soo's severed ear and this is how Joe figures out that he was the killer all along.
I’m at the beginning of the video, so apologies if this gets touched up on in it and I’m just not there yet. But I think Rhys is Joe and is a figment of Joe’s imagination, and that Joe is still actually committing these murders. He’s still stalking Kate, but his mind is justifying itself by him telling himself he’s “protecting” her.
I think Rhys is a real person, just he hasn’t met Joe. Joe just read his book and related to it, so made up Rhys as a companion in his head.
That being said, each season keeps getting more and more outrageous yet I keep tuning in.
Yeah that's pretty much where I'm at. When he just appears in the woods after Joe knocks out Roald, but who knows with this show!
So like A Beautiful Mind but in a Netflix way? That tracks for their series plots
I don't think the writers are that good but i'd love to see this
The only thing that keeps me from there is that Joe gets thrown out of a window when a murder is supposed to take place, so how did he commit it?
that's what i think as well, the only thing i can't wrap my head around with this theory is the ending of ep. 5 with joe being locked up in the basement and the fire. because if rhys didn't do that, who else could it be?
I get the idea, it's Joe being stalked this time and finding himself among people who make him look sane but it's just so over the top and not even in the fun way. The whole "let's hunt him through the woods" part so bad even Joe is going "What is happening?!" Can't believe how bizarre this show got.
I don't even know if he's being stalked anymore which is disappointing
@@AmandaTheJedi honestly I have no idea what this season plot arc is supposed to be.
you already answered your own question.
Its them the other society thats fucked up. They drag him into bullshit even if he wants to escape. Thats the point. And he magically pulls like a magnet psycho women to himself. So dont be blinded by Lady Phoebe she will be some real trouble.
bless y’all’s tender souls
I don't think Elliot will be back, I think they just put him in as a nod to the books because he's a pretty prominent character in the 3rd book. I'm pretty sold on Rhys being an alterego. The real Rhys' did write the book and is running for mayor, but the one we see around joe is his alter who he sees as Rhys because he sees himself in the book. He always seems to have been blacked out or asleep when the murders happen too
about roald hearing kate and phoebe talk, you say that he actually thinks joes the killer, but the way i see it he smiled for a moment because he found the perfect excuse to actually kill joe without much repercussions
Joe was SUPPOSED TO GO TO JAIL IN SEASON 2! They DRAGGING TF OUT OF THIS SHOW😂
I think we're all sad not to have the Emily in Paris crossover.
Ew. It's one of the stupidest ideas Amanda has ever said, and it's so stupid you Amanda simps keep repeating it lmao. You is just a terrible show, Emily in Paris is ten times better.
Now that, I would watch 😂👌
I didn’t think we would see so much pee play in a Netflix show but somehow it only works because it’s You lmao
Phoebe is an angel who deserves better
I just realized I was 100% unfazed when he's stalking, peeping, following Kate and breaking in bedrooms, etc...
Maybe because he is the rat in the cat and mouse game (and the Detective in our whodunit Murder Mystery)
But it's weird realizing I didn't get creeped out at all...
It could also be you are desensitized to him doing it, since he does it 24/7 in this show
I think Joe is always a predator. He just lies himself that he is victim. I think he has multi personality disorder.
@mxngos I don't think so, the other times all I could think is "Oh god, he's so creepy...Oh, sh*t, he's gonna kill someone....aaaahhhrrg"
Thinking back, I felt this way when he was hunting/chasing Marianne...
Letting her think he was gone, appearing from the shadows, banging her arm against the wall so she would drop her knife...
This show's main purpose was to highlight his creepy behavior that is romanticized so much but in the midst of trying to deromanticize his behavior, I think they normalized it unintentionally, or worse, intentionally.
Well he does it for a completely different motivation this time. Joe isn’t even interested in kate romantically until episode 4 so it’s probably that he seems less like a creep because he doesn’t do the stalking because of a romance.
As obvious as Rhys being the killer was, the entire time I was watching the first part, I was desperately hoping that Nadia was the killer. I mean clearly Nadia is just there as Joe’s new “kid” to have a soft spot for, but it would just be a great twist. Like maybe she killed Malcolm in a rage because he wanted to stop seeing her, as she was simply a toy for him to play with. Then, she continued to kill the rest of his friend group because they’re all the same, they only see people outside of the friend group as people that are “below” them, to be used for their enjoyment.
Me too! It makes so much sense and is way more interesting than Rhys being the killer or a figment of Joe's imagination. The writers even alluded to this possibility.
The person following Joe has brown shoulder-length hair just like Nadia. She was having an affair with Malcolm and was caught snooping around his apartment. I thought her asking Joe to retrieve the letter was to set him up. Also, during one of the class discussions, right before Joe received a text from his stalker, Nadia was seen fake coughing and dipping into her backpack to quickly text something on her phone.
I can see an angle where, as a literary student and crime enthusiast, Nadia read Beck's work, researched the case and following events then recognized Joe and decided to seek her own form of justice.
@@samariam3043 I would LOVE this theory to be true! I really hope you're right!
@@followsthestars I really hope so too! Because I hate the whole Joe is Rhys and Rhys is Joe Theory lol 😭
I can't believe they repeated the 'did joe murder delilah' fakeout from season 2 lmaooooo
My head canon is Dan Humphreys from Gossip Girl changed his name and is being his truest self.
"You" and "Emily and Paris?" SOMEONE MAKE A FAN MADE TRAILER PLEASE!!! Both in "You" theme and "Emily" theme.
I was so confused for a few seconds cause I thought You ment Amanda lol
@@lucianacarvalho3136 LOL! I guess I should use proper quotation marks to note titles.
Fixed it. LOLOLOL
Joe from You always felt like a version of Dan from gossip girl who fully went off the rails.
Y’all might have to eat your words-coming from a viewer who finished part 2🤭
Fake out blackout murder is, technically, not a new one for this show. Joe getting high, blacking out for four hours, and waking back up with blood on his hands, and then finding Delilah dead on his floor, took up a full fifth of the mystery of season two. Sure, it was Love that did it, but the blackout “did I do this” is pretty blatantly reused.
Listen if we need to eat the rich, let’s leave Lady Phoebe alone!!!
babe that's like, the opposite of the point
@@raypeebles babe, I don’t really care
Lady Phoebe is the suspect high ranked. She gabe several times drinks to Joe and beeing obssesed with him.
She only talked about Jonathan with others in each break at the party.
Try to remember. He didnt introduced himsel to Phoebe but she came at the party introducing others to Jonathan.
Then break and go away from Joe.
In the meantime she come again to Joe asking more questions but already knew more about him. Why? Because she always talked in each break from Joe only about him with others.
Then again break.
Ten she again sneaks onto him and again smalltalk.
But in each break she tried to gave Joe my Brother glas of alcohol.
She twisted. She obssesed. She the only one who seems not capable but she is.
But i think ther are 3 killers. Each one for each category of Sex, Money, Revenge.
So Nadia, Kate, Phoebe. In that order.
Kate having money issues. Thats why she has a arguing with malcom we see from the window. She cant ask her dad for help. And malcom tries to extract money from others by uncovering their secrets and kate robbery no coincidence to fishy it was planed.
Nadia beeing dumped after sex.
Phoebe beeing humialted by maybe malcom telling stuff to the journalists or other reasons.
ALL LINK TO MALCOM. Joe my dude innocent. Of course no ones belives him even the viewers. But thats the point.
Other people get away with bullshit and murder but Joe is the bad one for all not believing him.
Twisted psychos even draging him into chaos when he just runs away and trying to stay out of trouble. I feel him.
@@zarosderer4447 pretty sure joe isn't innocent
I actually think this season is a step up from season 3. I kind of like how the the social commentary is hammered in. Literally, right into the brain with a hammer. This show is back to being a guilty pleasure rather than a chore.
I’m with you! Season 3 was boring. I laugh more often than Netflix intended, but I’m much more entertained than last season.That suburban life was garbage. Love was way too much of a focus as the bad guy and I don’t care to watch our protagonist go to the public library with a stroller constantly.
(Spoilers) I have a strong feeling that S4 P1 is going to end up a lot like the first episode of season 3, where it’s revealed that Joe has been somehow behind it all along. That’s where all the clues seem to be pointing anyways
Rhys Montrose is Joe's alternate ego.
Without giving explicit spoilers, I can't believe you called that shit Amanda, bc OMG! 🤯
Interesting video idea: remove the inner monologues from You (especially the latter seasons like 3 and 4) where other people are talking to Joe and he just stands there in silence (narrating to the audience, but the people talking to him don’t hear anything) - just to see how truly awkward it is to have him stand there and not respond to what they are saying Lol.
I really hope Rhys is not fake, that whole "I didn't do it, but it turns I did do it but forgot/blacked out" is one of the most boring and reused "plot twists" in thriller and suspense in general, it makes everything that happened up to that point feel like a waste of time because it was only there to distract you from the twist in the first place. Also it wouldn't add anything new to Joe's character other than him wondering "oh no am I like bad bad?" which is just him being hypocritical about his killing like he has been from the first episode.
EDIT after watching part 2: fuck
Genuinely laughed out loud at the hat
I just watched the second half of season 4 and I NEED to hear your take on it. It 180'd.
I'm devastated they didn't hire you to write your crossover season. It's honestly the only worthwhile idea for either show at this point.
Rhys is 100% a figment of Joe’s imagination, and that’s gonna be the big twist of Season 4. There are so many hints towards it, and the reveal could be fantastic if they do it properly!
I thought that the whole hitman having a brand new identity for him was SO dumb. If he really wanted out of that life he would have just blackmailed Joe and taken the money....
Marienne needed to be part of the show in a significant way. Have Joe stalking her and her new love perhaps? The necklace was an absolute joke of a solution to that problem. Still a good show, but I'm worried about the 2nd half...
I'm hoping she pops back up in part 2. Like he literally crossed the atlantic for her
@@AmandaTheJedi I honestly really hope Rhys is a figment of Joe's imagination, and the real person behind the murders isn't Joe, but Marienne
I think he actually killed Marianne
ok, I need your reaction to part 2 ASAP 💀
I hate that the theory about it all being in Joe’s head makes so much sense because it’s just so underwhelming for me. Like Spencer’s twin level of underwhelming. But Joe never kills just because he doesn’t like someone, there’s always some bigger reason to ‘justify’ it so maybe I’ll be surprised and they’ll actually execute it well.
probably his "love" for kate drove him insane again
It’s like a completely different show at this point.
I've heard a theory that Rhys is Joe, fight club style. As in Joe read the real Rhys' book, saw himself in the guy and then starts projecting this character around him to explain his own actions. It makes sense because whenever Rhys is actually there he never interacts with anyone else, there's no evidence of the texts on his phone etc. It would make sense Joe sees himself in this guy and so creates an alterego.
Not Kate only having 12 friends on Facebook 💀
Can't even say she's keeping it to the loyal ones because they're all pariah's except Phoebe
At the end of the season 3, I thought "ok what's more there to be said about the character" because everything that has to be said has been said about the character at that point
season 4 just jumped the shark and at this point people are just on board with Penn Bedgely and have a ride
i watched a video explaining how rhys isn’t actually the killer and it’s actually joe pinning it on rhys and driving himself insane because fell in love with rhys’ book especially since they have similar upbringing
Okay, I may be completely wrong but I feel like Kate has something to do with the whole thing.
They make a big point about nothing being a coincidance and there are a lot of those when it comes to Kate.
At the very beginning with the mugging and Joe coincidentally being there. Then even after Kate found out that Joe watches her theough the window, she still does not care and changes in front of it. Then later on Kate is the one that stops Roald (or what ever his name ist) from potentially shooting Joe. Then she is the one sitting in front of the dead girl. And in the end she is the one who finds Joe ans Roald in the bunker and saves them... idk.
(Sorry for any mistakes with grammar and spelling, english is not my first language)
I don’t Ike that this makes sense in the context of the show and it’s writing…
Not the thing to focus on here, but the Thames is pronounced the Tems. Idk why we spell things like this either
TBH the show should’ve ended after season three… doesn’t have the same energy without victoria pedretti. and now the premise has stretched so thin that there are glaring plot holes everywhere
I think its quite clever what they are doing this season. I found it a lot better than the first half of s3 and 2. Rhys is a good addition and i think penn's inner monologues have been the best since season 1.
I wish Netflix would learn to end a show while it's still good instead of just beating it to death. Or ending them immediately so we can retain good content (I'm glaring at you, Emily in Paris). This show was fun at first but honestly season 3 onward is just the same shit
Don't wach it anymore if you really mean that . End
You can literally see when the original commenter doesn’t pay their own bills
@@ericmcdonough6771 are you okay? lol
@@orkosubmarine Yes, just gripped to my seat reading about your Netflix wishlist
I think he’s made up a lot of stuff in his mind and we are watching it as he narrates. Like that Rhy guy being the killer, I don’t think he’s the killer but he’s telling a story and painting him out to be the killer. A redemption story for Marrian.
The first episode starts with him talking about a story of redemption. In flashbacks he says he’s gonna prove to her he’s not a bad guy.
There’s a student he asks questions about a story and her answers are how the season plays out.
For example she says “the first suspect is the second victim” which happens.
Then she tells him “you need to be invested in this” and now he was stalking that one woman to protect her.
Even though he has an apartment window that looks into hers, etc.
I think he’s lying to himself and has gone off the deep end with the lies.
He has an interest in that woman (I forgot her name) but he has to give himself permission to stalk her like he does.
I think it will pay off in the second part. He will realize through illusions of Beck and Love that he made this narrative up and he’s the killer.
Who knows maybe he killed that woman in Paris and this whole story is a coping mechanism or something.
He does this every season, lying to himself to justify his actions.
But this time is nuts
Yeah I think he killed marianne as well because joe never catch these obsessive feelings for anyone else while he is already obsessed with one "you".
This comment is gonna explode with likes after everyone watches Pt 2
I think what would be cool to see if they made Joe's stalker known from the start and then watch as those two try to sus each other out. and watch the plots pan out.
This story was so compelling, and I was so excited. I loved watching joe struggle to solve something he thought was so trivial. However, I was hoping they would have done it better
Season 1 was great, and it should have ended there. the 2 seasons with Love just dragged badly and this season seems like a useless cash-grab
I get the feeling that playing Eragon really broke Ed :')
I've just realised it is the same actor!!!! Whaaat? Hahaha! I recognized him from outlander, and I didn't think I'd seen him before...
omg, woaaaah. that slightly broke me.
Okay, for You season five, Joe gets arrested. The whole season is his court case. That way we can really see him try to manipulate the courts, fail at that, his fangirls he would inevitably have, and get raked over the coals for being a bad person. He thinks the verdict will be not guilty or at least like ten years or something and then he gets four life sentences with no chance of parole
And the key witness??
Beck.
you deserve more subscribers. you are so natural and uniquely yourself.
Thank you!
Me: **playing skyrim**
Amanda:”…golden showers from the help.”
EXCUSE ME
It’s convenient how Malcolm dies when joe is passed out, Simon dies when joe is passed out, and Jenna (I forget is that her name?) dies when Joe is passed out. Hermmmm…. It’s almost as if….. hermmmm
At this point, I’m just sitting around bored and waiting for Joe to get his violent comeuppance.
Justice for Beck, damn it.
After seeing the whole series, the conclusion to this video is even better. Also good job spotting what I initially didn't!
23:35 Holy sh*t I think you're right. That would be so fitting for the brand of crazy of this show to have Joe suddenly having a dissociative identity disorder. Hell he could have killed Rhys, introduced himself to Rhys circle and then kill the Eat The Rich killer's victims, imagine receiving DISAPPEARING messages as well as every conversation with Rhys. Meanwhile, Rhys's body is chillin' in The Tame, floating around and ready to be picked up because Joe is so sh*t at getting rid of corpses.
I’m just upset that he abandoned his son and then it just isn’t a plot point point anymore. That had so much potential.
I only really watched series 4 because I really like Charlotte Ritchie. She’s great on Ghosts and Feel Good, also her time on Taskmaster was pretty funny
im gonna be very honest here, S4 drew me in so much more than S3. Idk why, i just know them playing with the murder mystery trope is so fun for me.
It's definitely less of a shit show than season 3 and there's building blocks for something really interesting, I just don't love the execution
@@AmandaTheJedi i see exactly what you mean regarding the poor execution, somehow i find that charming though. Like i was at the edge of my seat constantly screaming YESSSSSS hahahaha
Thank you for doing this one! I had to stop watching midway through season 3 because I had become so repulsed by Joe as a character that watching the show was making me feel gross in a way that felt quite dark, but I was still curious where the story was going to go and how they were going to try and progress things. Sounds like maybe I am not the only one who felt that way, because by the way you've described it, they're trying to dial waaaay back on Joe's disturbing creep factor! Will def watch your vid on part II when the time comes. Tanks!
Patiently waiting for your part 2 review🙇🏾♀️🙇🏾♀️🙇🏾♀️
I think this show always comes together so well at the end. I haven't been disappointed with any of the endings so far and I think this one will be no exception.
Are they about to pull a fight club in part 2? I almost want to watch this next season for a wild romp/laugh. I think it'd be great for a watch party with friends.
Fight CLub by way of The Joker-ish is how it feels
@@AmandaTheJedi that book actually ended with the character waking up in a mental hospital. And the readers are left to speculate just how much if not everything we read was just in his head. I really hope YOU is doing the same thing here. Cause these episodes have been really ridiculous
They filmed it at my uni, which funny enough is not actually in London. They just stitch different parts when he walks out of campus.
As far as I know there is no fancy flats there. And gates close at certain time so robbers wouldn't really enter, considering also that there is on site security and cameras monitoring the parking. This is probably the case for most universities, especially fancier ones.
Also noone would name a University "college".
They could have done any amount of research
They also seem unaware that Britain is plastered wall to wall with CCTV cameras. And the part about Joe loves to walk in London? London is HUGE and has good
public transport, something Joe as a New Yorker would be used to.
@@faithworldleader6891 London is not huge. Because England is not
I am half way into this video of a show that I haven't seen a single episode of, and let me just say the plot points are giving me mad Hannibal vibes. Moving to a foreign country after leaving your prior life behind, taking on a fake name/killing someone and taking their place in order to be a professor, surrounding yourself with rich people of the same ilk, the whole ear taking thing, the fact that joe is literally will graham's doppelganger with that hair and beard. I'm just waiting for Joe to be eating with someone getting so annoyed at them that he stabs them in the head
Need a part 2 to this if you finished the season ASAP
Tell me if I’m wrong but joe getting a new identity from the assassin is a really big red flag. How did he even acquire a completely new identity for him? I’d say it’s either the Quinn’s are going to get their revenge or Love is alive and she’s coming for her revenge
This show is on my list of tv shows that would have ended at 2 seasons, along with westworld, stranger things and sex education
Westwood was a masterpiece at the end of session one, they should have left it there. Anthony Hopkins was sublime in it.
But they had to go and ruin it.
BOY HOWDY am I stoked for your take on Part 2 because OH MY LANTA. I love this show because even though it's absolutely terrible, it's so bad it's good.
There's an evident sound change in the "hmm nobody interacts with Rhys"
Thank you for being critical of this show. Many people are too scared to be honest.
This season is so off to me. It became the most stereotypical "who dunnit" possible. And they are making the main character look like a good guy - yeah lets just forget all of the horrendous and creepy af things he's done. It just feels like the writers have no clue what they're doing. (Also, him living in gorgeous house when there's no way in hell he could afford it is so triggering lol)
It belongs to the professor he is replacing who is on sabbatical and is being lent to him. No way Joe could afford that place in London.
There's got to be more going on with the student; she's too convenient. Hoping there is a bigger game at play and everything that's happened in part one is just setting up the pieces for someone in the past getting revenge on Joe.
Sleeping with the professor/teacher trope is lame. Devalues her character.
This was epic, pleeeaaase do a season 4 part 2!
I was there when this video's title was "You S4 review"
I was kinda confused then refreshed the page to find this instead
Wrong version went live early!
I literally was watching the other one when you deleted it! I knew that title seemed weird hahaha
I'm glad Amanda makes these videos about YOU because right from the beginning of S1, I was unapologetically watching the show purely to see Joe get his just desserts (as frustrated and as stupid as I thought Candice plan was, I really had hopes for her... only for her to, you know, die). And of course, that has not happned, and he has only gotten worse with each given season.
I only watched S3 for Love (because Victoria Pedretti and Love for me was a way more interesting character - Don't get me wrong, I still very much wanted her to face justice for her murders, but she was fun to watch) and when at the end of that season, Joe was still free and on the run, having still not faced any real consquences for his actions, I was 'yeah, I'm done'
So yeah, even hearing that Joe had a stalker in S4 - and that there really wasn't going to be a YOU/Emily in Paris crossover, which I definitely have been down to watch - I did not have high hopes (I will admit, I was hoping the stalker was going to turned out to be a somehow alive Love. Love turning up alive really wouldn't have been the weirdest thing to happen in this show) and listening to Amanda's review, I'm gonna stick with my original decision that I came to at the end S3, that I'm done, I'm good and I'll just wait for Amanda's review for S4P2
freeze your eggs if you haven’t
@@ericmcdonough6771 Aw, you sound like such a delight to be around
@@SapphireShelle91 Hi Pot, I’m Kettle
I`m bingewatching all your videos, I can`t stop 😭😭😭 the reviews are so good and funny