What If Future Goku SURVIVED the Heart Virus? | Dragon Ball Z
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- What If Future Goku was alive when the Androids attacked?
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In this Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball Super What If it has been two and a half years since the defeat of Freeza and King Cold on Earth - on the day that would mark the end of Goku’s life originally. Instead of an agonizing demise, Goku spends the day with his family and training. The Heart Virus he had contracted a few days prior already has a readily available cure on Earth years earlier than the original story - this is the major change that alters everything.
Having contracted the Heart Virus at all still forces Goku to confront his own mortality. A fight he can’t win where things like disease can take him down without him even being able to throw a punch. These thoughts will linger in his mind for now.
Things are by all accounts normal, but this seeming peace can only last for so long. Six months pass and the androids are released onto the world. We don't know what happened to Androids 19 and 20 beyond the fact that Android 20 was killed by 17 and 18 when they were also released.
It’s hard to be certain of anything, and because of that I believe the Z-fighters never encountered Gero in this timeline - instead he met his demise before he could ever face them. Leading to an eventual encounter that was shown in the Future Trunks Special. So just like the special, Vegeta has managed to become a Super Saiyan in the three years since Freeza and with Goku around maybe there is some fleeting hope, but as Vegeta charges in boasting about his new found power, that hope quickly fades.
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Im always interested in future goku..our original goku..always curious why and why he isn't helping the z fighterz before their death..at one point i want the present counterpart meet the future counterpart..guess akira toriyama doesn't care about future goku lol
I have liked the video and commented as well.
Here's my prediction: he dies to the androids
I’m more interested in how he survives in a way that seems reasonable than what he does after, but I guess I’ll just have to wait
“They work on gohans fundamentals until he can spar piccolo” in other words....Piccolo: DOOOOOOOOOODGE! GOHAN:*dodges* piccolo: *happy tear*
Piccolo: Thanks other me!!
😂😂😂😂
Lol😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes 😂
NEMEKIAN TOO STRONG! EXPLAIN NOW!
Goku: Okay. Let's gather the Dra-
Piccolo: *fuses*
Goku: THE FUCK PICCOLO!!!
R I P
The sad part is i can see this actually happening.
@@garouthedemon7401 she doesn't know the coordinates of new namek
*Dissapointed Will Smith*
@@sashanksriram8942 then cant trunks just tell goku to find the coordinates of new namek the first time he appeared
Damn. Your ending statement about Future Bulma being right just hits in the feels.
ong
If only Dragon Ball didn't use multiverse theory
It honestly just filled me with sadness 😢
Kinda makes u feel goku is a little evil because his glory means danger for humanity. But then again no cause that was also his reason for staying dead
@@Jose-up5lh I mean technically a lot of what happened wasn't really goku's fault.......and well to be fair even if it was linked to goku being on earth and becoming powerful in the end majin buu was still set to be revived and without goku most of universe 7 would probably be gone that is until ig beerus decides to get rid of buu
This is an interesting take on something that actually could have happened. Like, wishing for a cure would've saved Trunks' future lol.
My guy thats such a good point
……. I…… you…… why did no one suggest this?!
Or just wished him back after he died...
@@gutzu265 ok dude i think you have to study the rules of the dragon balls again, not even the namekian dragon balls can bring back people that died through natural causes (which for some reason dying from intense stress is not one of them eventhough that is a biological response that causes a heart attack which is also another natural way to die)
@@gutzu265 The time he died the androids immediately attacked which caused for the z fighters to go into the city itself and resulting of them getting killed along w piccolo which means no dragonball
You know you've watched too much TFS when instant transmission not making a 'pop' sound feels like a betrayal.
Yeah...
And when it has the effect...
There's too much tfs!?
@@tommymurphy3632 No, but it's probably better not to mainline it like I do.
Basically, Gohan's dreams come true
"True peace"
I never thought about this.
Also I thought it would be cool to see what if Goku hadn't dropped Kaioken in the Namek saga.
kaioken x30 xD
Super kaioken
@@WrathofFenrir99 yeah
Yea kaioken what if
@@WrathofFenrir99 OOOOOH
Its honestly so sad just how different everything wouldve been. Goku is made out to be a bad guy sometimes but his heart is pure and I agree with this story, such a great video man !!
Am going to say it most people who make Goku to be the bad guy are the toxic Vegeta fans
goku is pure and innocent
if he does something that is "bad" that just means he doesnt know its actually bad
No one makes him out to be a bad guy (mostly because that's just plainly untrue)
But rather the implication is that he's selfish, and only seeks a good fight to test himself. Which is true, but as Carthu demonstrated with this what-if, Goku isn't straight up stupid. He would definitely take a threat like the future androids very seriously.
Why is goku now more stupid
Goku is innocent and pure hearted.
I always envy his purity.
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Imagine future Goku and vegeta doing fusion to fight against androids and piccolo merging with Kami 🔥🔥
That would be Overpowered
Cell: this is the wrong timeline, gotta find another one
Lol they would sneeze them away, then go kill Dabura
GOGETA IS HERE BITCHES
@@milestone1719 yeah that would have been fun but I'm disappointed from him
I can't believe that there are already people disliking the video when it hasn't even started
the dislike mostly comes from how little the future timeline change and making gohan chadhan without the proper wake up call, like gohan had in super meaning gohan will stop training and become weakass gohan,cause the androids was not a weak up call if it was he would not have slack in the 7 years like in dbz
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Well no dislikes anymore
That instant transmission saved the universe lol
This is a birthday come true! A fun day hanging out with all my friends, and getting a chance to watch a really cool what if scenario I've wondered about for years! Thank you, Carthu!
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I was actually wondering about this recently. Would he die to the androids, would he become weaker? stronger? good to see your take.
It is said by trunks that his androids are weaker then the main time line androids because gero adjusted then after the 3 years training that everyone did after trunks came so maybe it will be a win or a close call let's see
You can roughly say that post Yardrat Goku was equal/stronger than Future Gohan who could hang in with both androids but ultimately was still weaker than suppressed 17. If Androids come at the same day as Trunks say than Goku would have 3 years of less stressful training than in cannon(minus the time he will take to recover from the virus) but he can be not that far from androids in individual power at this point and that what makes this scenario interesting. After their first encounter someone might die. Goku might use something other than rough power to beat the androids. Z fighters could come up with some original idea or get their own time to shine. Who knows?
I think they would win cause post yardrat training goku was equal or bit stronger than future gohan who was able to take on the Androids when they used 50%
@@milimomainza8206 Yeah, but only Goku would have the power to go toe to toe with one of the androids (possible Vegeta too) but they would loose cuz of stamina, at least the first encounter, Goku can always teleport away and regroup.
Future goku was weaker than the goku we know. The reason behind this is that while the goku we know had a warning of the androids and trained to prepare for them, future goku wasn't expecting any future threat and would have casually trained from time to time.
“Androids beating up Vegeta”
Goku: Hey knock it off
Babidi would probably appear around the same time he did in the series. In the Super manga, the justification for his late alpearance in the future was that it took him much longer to gather energy for Boo since Earth was left desolated by the Cyborgs.
Also because you know a certain fight with a perfect bio android having energy to lure him to earth
In the future the androids cannot be sensed and the strongest thing ( future gohan) would be trash to dabura
Would definetly beat pui pui and yakoon tho
Cyborgs?!
@@GodzillaEnjoyer 17 and 18 were originally human. 16 and 19 were completely robotic.
@@ElectricDog1016 HAD A SOUL 😢
@@hoodieleek4272 he wasn't a fan of fighting much like Gohan. He loved nature. He fought Cell to protect 17 and 18. His death pushed Gohan over the edge.
Love the sense of tension/dread after the Androids appear, then Piccolo wrecks them and the rest of their lives are a breeze
Common Piccolo W
This reminds me of Future Roshi's quote, the one used at the start of the "Forgotten" AMV
*If only Goku had lived...*
THE GOOD ENDING!!!
Good ending lets gooooo!
@@CarthusDojo LETS GOOOO!
Die androids die
Ive been asking myself this for over 15 years. Knowing Goku, he would have found a way to overcome the androids. Future Trunk's reality is a depiction of how the Z fighters have no direction without Goku. Either way, had Goku been alive during that period, it would have been the perfect time to introduce the hyperbolic time chamber. However, had the androids been dealt with, you then had imperfect Cell on the horizon to deal with.
I don't buy this video at all...SSJ Goku and Vegeta could've defeated 1 on the androids...the Z team could've fought against the other and Krillin could've thrown senzu beans to Goku and Vegeta thus giving them a zenkai boost and kill the other android.
@@thediaz07 ain’t no ssj can beat an android
@@crimsonking4151 SSJ grade 2 can kill any android.
@@thediaz07 I said ssj
@@crimsonking4151 Yeah SSJ grade 2 is a SSJ. Also that statement isn't true at all....if Vegeta was stronger in his base form then became SSJ later he'd be stronger then what he was...it's a 50x base multiplier...at minimum..
I love the peaceful ending, I do enjoy the other original content such as Beerus, Broly, ToP arc, but this sudden, yet welcoming, what if ending just feels appropriate
3:15 Piccolo: I am just gonna walk like a boss in front of you, so you can admire me
I just watched dbz kai abridged and seeing kami and piccolo fuse so fast made question what video I'm watching for a second
This is going to be so much fun. I have been waiting for this for soo many days!
4:37 Piccolo the whole time: DOOOOOOOOOODGE
Well that ending was much more peaceful than I expected.
I think it's pretty simple why beerus doesn't show up in the future timeline.
Not enough saiyans to perform the god ritual means the oracle fish doesn't have a rival to tell him about and no premonitory dream about the super saiyan god so he just stays asleep longer or just goes around not considering earth or the saiyans.
Finally a new video this will be fun to watch especially with the livechat
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I’m going to watch this as soon as it’s out.
I feel like eventually Zamasu would still start the Zero Mortals plan, just much further down the line as the only thing keeping him from going over the ledge already was his lack of knowledge. I feel like eventually he would’ve found out about Jiren and still felt like the mortals should’ve been purged
Would we have Jiren Black?
much further down the line i feel like gowasu would train zamasu to be better, he heard about zamasus thoughts about mortals and he mightve tried to improve how he acts.
@@773Spair We’re fucked
tobo would hakai him before he wish for immortality
Nah!! Mortals with divine power and especially Goku was the main trigger for him!!! so no meeting with beerus means no tournament of power means zamasu never to able to know that some mortals can access divine power and Goku will never able to meet him that means zamasu never starts zero mortals plan and try to improve himself and become the next supreme kai!!
I tend to believe that Buu was only delayed due to the Androids killing so many and being too much for Babidi to handle at that time.
Nah. Dabura was with Babidi for at least 300 years. He said that they checked earth 300 years ago, there was nobody that strong (as compared to the Saiyans)
why wouldn’t they meet beerus and whis?? wasn’t it told that beerus was going to meet or at least look for the super saiyan god years before?
Beerus either went to Vampa or decided to sleep longer.
@@ProbablyFolly Becuase Broly was 1 out of 2 of the only remaining pure sayians, he didnt go to Trunks becuase he was a half breed so the Super Sayian God would be more likely for a Pure sayian. i think Beerus would go to Earth
I thoroughly enjoyed this what if, I watched Masakox do a similar what if and it ended on a more darker tone but was still amazing in its own right, props to both of you guys for coming up with such a good story on this subject :3
That was awesome! I love your storys so much. I'm wondering how would you write the story If Goku and Gohan went into the Hyperbolic Time Chamber First?
Yeah, I always wondered why you thought that Goku would die in the fight against the androids in the past. It's interesting to see that you changed your mind on this one and I agree with it for the most part. I never saw Goku sticking around to fight the androids, I always thought he would figure out that they're too strong and would fall back to train in the Time Chamber.
Absolutely especially if he arrived and found out that SSJ Vegeta was getting his ass kicked to the androids. He would grab Vegeta, hightail it out of there. Gather up the rest of the Z fighters and then prepare for the androids with the Hyperbolic time chamber.
He and trunks were the same.
@@blueblur2273 They probably would have gone to the battle together. I think it’s very possible that they both would have lost.
@@thekingbradable Vegeta wasn't doing anything with any of the Z Fighters back during the Android saga. He was very much operating alone especially after becoming SSJ.
You don't know how long I have been waiting for this, I hated how they did future Goku.
I like long what ifs better so I hope this will live up to the expectations!
Let’s goooo the Goat is back 🔥🔥🔥
Interesting what would happen with the later arcs. It is strange they didn't mention Moro, but I'm guessing that was just due to the negligence or the time of release. The bigger question: Would Goku really not fight? He stayed with Frieza even as Namek began to die out.
That's because he knew he'd win. Meanwhile Goku isn't going to fight a battle he knows he can't win as shown when he surrendered against Cell.
@@antman1001000 It's possible, though considering his track record I'd guess the Cell era of restraint was a change. That said, it could of course apply to the Androids as well.
@@antman1001000 Goku surrendered because he knew that Gohan was their only real chance of victory and that dying fighting Cell wouldn't have helped Gohan reach his true power.
This, this timeline is hella peaceful compared to the main haha
The situation for Babidi would also be far different though with a restored earth and all the warriors alive, so I doubt it would resemble the future time line in that regard.
When I first saw the Android saga, I was really hoping to see Goku take on either 16, 17, or 18. But, Cell showed and kind of made that impossible.
Which is why Goku should have really taught everyone Instant Transmission. Hell, at some point during the breaks they could have all made a trip to Yardrat to complete the full suite Spirit Control teachings. Would have made the humans more than just fodder, at least.
He should have taught them the Kaioken as well. Imagine if everyone could teleport and double or more their strength in a fight.
I believe in the future timeline Moro still got his powers back just before his death like in the original.
But without Frieza's revival, the Frieza soldier that led him to namek wasn't in the galactic prison.
Merus probably kept Moro from doing too much harm before his lifespan ended, or, without the false hope of fat buu, broke the angel rule to stop him like he did in the manga.
Finally future trunks time line won't be shit hopefully
Goku black could still happen
@@Lupo32 he will happen since the DBS Goku universe will still exist as a perralel universe
Well i have a few things to suggest. With beerus he probably didnt come to earth due to there being no full blood saiyans. With goku and vegeta alive that changes things. And for the buu arc im pretty sure the androids are the reason it took so long to gather that much energy and with them not being an issue that would probably speed things up a bit.
It’s so funny to think just how different everything would’ve been if trunks never had to go back.
Loved the video.
I feel like kamis lookout is like a pause button for the z fighter's, am I wrong?
Then buu put a stop to that shit
@@Fishlipsandbabyhands then gotenks TRIED to put a sstop to buus crap
Well the only reason I think Beerus didn’t go to earth was because there was only one half Saiyan there
"And they all lived happily ever after."
[Beginning of next episode: Earth explodes.]
hi carthu, lookin forward for this premiere mate.
edit; loved it
One of the best what if i ever saw great work carthu
I can't wait to see this.
This is going to be so good
The art really looking extra fire this video!
This was a good video. I think I suggested it once during one of your livestreams near the end of 2019.
Omg i love ur what- if stories
Men I have been waiting for something like this and I liked
Hyped🔥
Problem: in the canon future timeline it takes Babadi an extra 10 years to gather energy for Buu only because the androids killed so many humans. In your scenario Goku revives everyone killed by the androids. There’s no reason for it to still take babadi the extra time.
Yup also there were stronger powers That lured him to earth ( súper perfect cell and ssj2 Gohan ) in the future the strongest thing he could detect was future Gohan then a Few years later post cell saga future trunks
Yep thats how you know he just rushed the video
Lets just assume the lack of ssj2 Gohan / súper perfect cell tier dangers
Makes Babidi still not be interesed
Alternate title: “What if Goku ate an extra flintstone vitamin gummy?”
This is going to be great
I feel like your story is dead on to what would happen if thing went down like this. Love it.
This is a good series thx for making this
Akira toriyama should expand his db franchise much like dc and marvel and allow other people such as this guy to create different versions of the dragon ball story line, that’d be dope , love your content btw
Hello there
General Kenobi
General Kenobi
Sacred saiyan
*General Kenobi. You are a bold one.*
I’ve been waiting for this forever
I love the new pictures that you use for cartoon carthu
confused and frustrated just look so cool
This is gonna be epic
Never had my favorite youtuber like my comment
I can't wait for it to start
Just got back from IHOP and came back to have my heart filled :). Love the vid.
I have been waiting,Let’s go!
What if Gohan was like Goku part 4 plis
Edit: also a request for another What If:
"What If Goku accepted Kami's offer?"
what was kamis offer
@@LavaCreeperPeople he offered the position of kami to goku
@@salsa9155 oh
We get smart goku
@@dontgoonthischannel1221 but weaker Goku
Love your vids
This is the craziest what if you can think of nice job carthu
Great vid carthu🔥
Great Video 👍👍👍👍😊
Great "What if...", but I am still waiting for "What if Goku has never married Chichi".
No Gohan, but stronger goku with more time for training from the beginning of the story.
This is actually an insane one. Would piccolo stay evil or end up a friend later on?? Carthage needs to do this one 😂
Dude, goku is home like one day a month. His training will be the same
@@boltskyline2957 the training of goku isn't the main change though think about it no gohan which means no future gohan to help trunks, no ssj2 gohan against cell if it would even be possible to get to that point as things might just remain the same so it would keep going back to the future timeline, nothing changing and our heros always losing but lets say trunks survives and changes the timeline well there is still the problem of no gohan to go ssj2 to kill cell but once again lets somehow say they beat cell we then have buu with no gohan and no goten the people if earth stand no chance anx earth is destroyed and buu goes on destroying the universe till beerus wakes up and kills him. Without goku marrying chi-chi it would set dragon ball down a very very dark path
@@beetleknight4661 i agree
If there's no Gohan Nappa and Vegeta kill everyone on earth, Goku dies against Vegeta, Vegeta goes to namek and gets killed my Ginyu force. Frieza gets the dragon balls. story ends.
Awesome, I like this alot Carthu
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I love your videos
This is going to be a awesome what if.
I am pleasantly surprised to be wrong! :) Good video, Carthu!
Thanks! 😃
Your voice, your commentary, your theories are the best
I just love "what if a Future person survived?" videos
If you go on mr.glowsick I'm saying the same thing...the other best CZcams is coming back...What a great year!
This video was amazing and beautiful, also ya Future Bulma goated
I can’t WAIT TO WATCH THIS VIDEO 😫
What if Bardock was sent out the Future timeline in Episode of Bardock and was found by Trunks and Gohan?
Bardock solos
Spirit control really makes or breaks battles with techniques like forced spirit fission and instant transmission. Spirit ki and magic really have their advantages but spirit seems to be the most versatile with the least techniques at this point
You really make these good.
I feel like Goku being alive is what caused the 19 and 20 to appear and why 17 and 18 were stronger. Gero would be someone who keeps tabs on Goku in regards to being alive so in the original timeline since Goku died Gero didnt need 17 and 18 to be really strong. With Goku dead, Gero seems to take his time with completing the androids and working on cell for only 17 and 18 to kill him and go on a rampage (he probably was also more loose on their programming which is why they act so different originally) but when Goku is alive, he seems to overcompensate with making 17 and 18 stronger and updating their programming which might also be why they need to be in their containment pods for longer, creating 16 and 19, and being confident that 19 and himself can do the job of killing Goku as he knows he also has 3 more androids in reserve in case he fails.
It’s possible 19 & 20 could’ve appeared in Trunks’ timeline. Assuming that 19 & 20 were killed by Vegeta and/or 17 on the same day that they appeared. Trunks was a baby, and Bulma likely wouldn’t have been there. This assumes that 17 & 18 then immediately wiped out everybody but Gohan.
As for Gohan not knowing, or not telling Bulma & Trunks, I can’t explain that.
@@jamesr6959 I would imagine Gohan would have known if 19 and 20 existed
See my theory is that never changed. The past androids being stronger is iffy as we never see the two side by side only a much weaker trunks view of the future androids, then a much stronger trunks vs cell and the future androids. Anyway put that aside the point here is the extra androids. We only have a third hand account from Trunks heard from Gohan and his mother about events. Events we don't get a huge amount of detail on just that two androids appear near south city, everyone dies and then androids roam the world killing people.
There's nothing in there to actually contradict Gero and 19 being the first androids to appear. Killing a few of the group before running into Vegeta/fused piccolo and activating 17/18 as per the past events. Gohan's still a child at this point and without Goku he'll have spent all his time studying under a mother who doesn't want him to fight, he's not going to get called to fight a threat that's already killed people at least not at first. All it takes is everyone who runs into Gero/20 dying and everyone except Gohan has died.
Even with three years warning and extra training they only missed taking out Yamcha and Piccolo as the group was near enough to support each other. I can easily see them taking out everyone they run into except a supersaiyan Vegeta who then dies to 17/18 and with him the knowledge the two androids slaughtering everyone aren't the original two who appear.
This is the only story that we will see trunk actually grow up
-this could possibly how gt timeline run
Very good one-off what-if! Nice work
Keep posting these carthu.
I imagine this is the scenario future Gohan probably kept repeating in his head throughout his years of fighting the androids, minus the time chamber.
Eighth and I can’t wait!
This was the best one yet.
Dude this shit was epic!!! It totally makes sense, though in some part i really feel that something would have happen. It always does
I believe Goku's death is WHY the future androids were different. Dr Gero was obsessed with revenge against him. Goku living is the only change Trunks made Dr Gero would personally be aware of. If Goku lives he might consider 17 and 18 as his hail Mary. So he boosts their power while decreasing their aggressive tendencies in hopes that'll make them easier to control when he has no choice but to use them. He failed to consider that aggressive tendencies or not, their hatred for him is COMPLETELY justified and his fate remains the same.
I thought the train they did made the augments to there strength goku strong androids ment to be above him get stronger goku weaker androids weaker