What If GOKU Killed VEGETA in the SAIYAN SAGA? Full Story | Dragon Ball Z
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- What if Goku's Kaioken x4 Kamehameha killed Vegeta in the Saiyan Saga of Dragon Ball Z?
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After the 23rd World Tournament, Goku begins to spare his enemies in a way he never had before. Seemingly a mix of selfish desires and seeing the good in others. One of the crucial characters to be saved by Goku’soutlook is Vegeta, but what happens if he doesn’t spare Vegeta specifically. More than that, what if Goku killed Vegeta himself, not just telling Krillin to do it?
Some may be thinking he couldn’t do this, but there’s one specific moment it could have happened. When the iconic Kamehameha-Galick Gun clash happens, Goku uses a Kaioken x 4, making his power level 32,000 compared to Vegeta’s meager 18,000. A bit of extra force and the motivation to kill Vegeta would be more than enough to take out Vegeta in one attack.
So the day is won. Goku stands triumphant, but also in pain due to overusing the Kaioken; however, more importantly than anything - Goku hasn’t been crushed so his recovery time is far less. Of course, Krillin still suggests they go to Namek in order to revive their friends so how will a Namek without Vegeta change events?
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Tarble: “Welp…Guess *I’m* The Prince of All Sayians now.”
ok
*Toriyama proceeds to send him to a corner with Launch.*
Haaha
Broly would have won. BOTH brolys
@@YourAverageRobloxian659 Ironically, Vegeta broke against Z Broly, but yeah he was still definitely needed to bring the end result of Goku being able to destroy Broly.
“Sorry about this best buddy! HAAAA!”
“Wai- WHAT THE FAAA-“ *dies*
That would be funny to hear from tfs
Rip our boys Gogeta and Vegito
And Veku
@@Teriyaki-BoyXV im sorry but who?
Nadiya .S (fat gogeta)
@@nadiya.s6286 skinny gogeta I think
@@Teriyaki-BoyXV We lost a real one...
oh come now Bulma is such a genius im sure she could easily figure out how to control Freezer's ship and goku would no doubt find the Muffin Button
The muffin button is a dragon ball z abridged reference for those who dont know
MUFFIN
BUTTON
she may have had a few guesses as to what each button did. but with no confirmation, she couldn't start clicking random buttons because she of all people knows not to click random buttons on foreign technology.
Your story telling of these what ifs is one of the best my man! And the video quality is so good, actually helps to imagine things clearly. Props to the editior!
I’m the editor so thanks lol
@@CarthusDojo OP editior indeed! Keep up the good work man.
I've enjoyed every single one of your videos so far.. my question is since Gohan is clearly the strongest wouldn't he potentially keep training instead of studying and have a new form by the time frieza showed up, and would frieza actually have trained for 4 months still?
@@mikeakers7107 Gohan never liked to fight. He only fought out of necessity. His dream was to be a scholar. It never had anything to do with his potential or power.
@@SomeBody-_-Yt greatest potential among the living half Saiyans. Probably, coz Goten learned super Saiyan at 6 and without training with Goku and didn't even get his potential unlocked, not even once. But that's besides the point friend. Gohan doesn't even want to fight. So why would he train when the world is at peace, just like when we saw in DBS. I'm not saying he couldn't have become the strongest, he very much can, but he just doesn't have the desire or drive.
I’d argue that Goku would find a way to train with Beerus and attain God power without the ritual, seeing as Vegeta was able to. That’s just my own opinion though, and I loved your story
But still Goku probably wouldn't think about it soon and he never had a feeling with god ki so lets say he started training the same time as he did originally then he probably wouldn't have ssjb and even if he did it would be super draining probably more then frieza's golden form
Vegeta only got it through training because he had seen and felt goku's transformation.
@@bulellaftiu3012 I'd argue cause vegetal had never really observed good ki. He was not able to feel it so really all vegetal saw was goku’s hair turn to a different color.
Vegeta participated in the ritual, so he likely had inherited the ki required to unlock super saiyan god through it
And also I think your forgetting that you need six sayians for super Salian god and if vegetas dead then your missing a sayian
The biggest problem I have with "what if's" is a lot of Dragon Ball's plot devices are designed to match their current situation. Goku needed 5 Saiyan's specifically because there were 4 available and was used to introduce Videl being pregnant. The Dragon balls often have limits and are imposed for the story they are telling. When the story changes, so do the rules and it's hand waved as them being recreated. 1 wish, 2 wishes, 3 wishes. What ever number doesn't break the story. It doesn't matter how much you change Goku or how strong you make him, the villain will always be magically stronger than Goku, but Goku will have a new level to obtain so he can win.
I think treating these obviously improvised plot elements as if they were serious constants is a big part of the fun of these, imo. Seeing how they interact with other factors and the consequences they have in situations far removed from their original intent is quite fascinating.
Plague of Gripes perfectly exemplifies everything wrong with all of the fights essentially being the same with new paint in his "power level" video.
@@UnwantedGhost1 the choreography is amazing in Z. Tell me Goku vs Cell or Majin Vegeta vs Goku isn't amazing
Honestly, they could just get Broly and his dad for the Beerus plotline anyway.
That's just dragon ball in general honestly, not just what ifs
Pibara: Genius idea, Son Gohan! Bring that monster to our planet knowing I could use spirit fission to revert it back to its primal form!
Gohan: Haha yeah....totally what I was thinking...
Could Pibara & the Yardrats sense Perfect Cell's energy?
@@UnwantedGhost1 dont make a plot hole pls
@@claudioandkindash7761 it's not a plot hole. the simple answer is YES. they've mastered spirit control their entire life. if the z-fighters can see differences in energy. than so can the yardrats.
I love the editing in this what-if! It really complements your narration and makes your stories much more lively!
Haven’t watched it all yet but this guy right here doesn’t miss with his what if’s
Carthu still does his work no matter what circumstances he is in! Love u man
I like how you were able to add powerlevels in this version of your What If. You should definitely keep that up, as I am a big fan of powerlevels, and would also hope to see your version of powerlevels in dragonball. Good Work.
the visuals in this is jawdropping
Great video! Love the remakes, keep it up!
I wish that this story still had YOU FOOOOOL!
One of your better stories, well done!
(And if you really wanted, you could've done GT. But I also know you mostly follow the super continuity)
That’s because super is the main timeline it wouldn’t make sense to follow the gt timeline
@@kamui9291 Wasn’t it decided that GT is hovering in a void of cannon and not cannon? Still, could have had more stories on GT
Gt gets no love and it's so frustrating that why I love the sayian scholar
@@mr.preston1632 It's a separate alternate timeline that's not canon to Akira Toriyama's main timeline.
@markanthony3399 It's not the current main timeline, which is what "canon" means in Dragon Ball.
A new what if from both you and salad! This stuff is what i live for.
Ayyyyy I didn't expect this now. Have a Nice Trip Tho
Love your stories Carthu😭 keep up the good work
Your the best thing to appear on CZcams
Bro this is incredible keep up the amazing work
Keep up the work man
late as hell but this might be my favorite what if you've done. it goes a very different direction than many of the other ones, I love the addition of future gohan and the stop at yardrat (both times). awesome stuff!
I already know this is going to be good
You should do some GT what if’s for fun. I know it ain’t canon but would be pretty cool. Love the videos, keep it up man.
I got so hype when force spirit fission was used! Good shit, Carthu!
Gohan is 150% clapping future bulma😂😂😂
I have read a hetai about that
@@sahuanitasahu7696 same
Wtf
@@sahuanitasahu7696We don't use that word here, we use Schmuntai
This is my favorite thing today! Such a good listen for a Monday.
Carthu Sama, your story telling ability is exceptional. I listen to these WhatIf scenarios intently and you describe them so well the mental image of the characters and locations are so vivid in my mind. You sir, have a gift!
A refreshing twist on the Future Trunks arc. Nice work, man!
That is the coolest thumbnail ever!
Thank you mr. Carthu!! For these amazng stories
This was really lit
The editing on this video is top notch
I really really enjoyed this. great stopry telling
Nice one 1st time I see a video 1 minute after the video is uploaded
I know you did a what if on Gohan training over the 7 years but would a video on him training between the time he left Namek and the 3 year time skip make that significant of a difference in the story?
You should've renamed it "If all the support characters were still relevant"
For a brief moment in time.
Boutta get 1000000 subs good job, keep up the work
Just 14k more to go
The thought of god ki would entice Goku to train under Whis, which may cause Gohan to want to come along too.
So I think that, even if Frieza came along, I think he would still not succeed.
Great vid though! I love your work. How do you make these vids?
Loving the new format!
What's this music?
Awesome vid bro👍
Bro this is amazing
Finally found this video once again, it's interesting to see how many things could change if Vegeta was never spared.
1:35 Bruh Capsule Coap
Yes
Bruhseph
7:34
No matter how many twists and alterations the story may get Krillin will always get owned 🤣🤣
Yeah man ths is so cool!
Can someone hire this man??? This is straight quality gold
Hire him where ? 💀
@@burgerlover4574as that narrator guy who says, "Next time on Dragon Ball Z..." Maybe...who knows what this guy meant when he said *hire* ?
I binge all of these videos
I like these What-If stories. Gotta listen to more since my time is freeing up.
9:35 *shows a clear shadow of future trunks. there was only one boy from the future *suddenly future gohan appears. Me=wait what
Great video as always.
btw I have a request, could you do a dragon ball what if video, but instead of using DB super timeline, you use DB GT timeline?
I really enjoyed this and didn't expect the reference to the DBS manga. I liked this one. What about Tarble? Do you think he would have come to earth in search of his brother? Maybe that's how they could have achieved super saiyan god?
nice one
I bloody love these what ifs
EPIC MATE
Awesome
What about Broly, or Vegeta’s brother for the super sayin god.
Yea if whis can find anyone in the universe than it should be possible
Tarble and Broly MAY have righteous hearts but Paragus definitely doesn’t and there’s no Videl in this story because Mr Satan didn’t defeat Cell so no Satan City or anything so they’re still one short.
@@CarthusDojo also tarble and Broly arrives way later in the story so not possible that way either even with 'any' woman that ends up with Gohan. Unless Goku becomes a bunny and they start dropping kids left and right
@@840fahim Wait a second. Goku got revved this time so he's on Earth for the 7 years until the Buu Saga. Think he and Chi Chi can, 1x or 2x ... nvm even with Goten that would mean 3 kids in 7 years and it took about 11 or more to even get the first two 🤣
@@CarthusDojo That doesn’t happen in What if Goku went Super Saiyan early, SS2 Goku defeated Cell, Satan didn’t became a hero but that doesn’t stop Gohan meeting and marring Videl.
Yey cool amazing
N I C E
Beerus gets curious with goku and gohan and decides to train both if gohan is willing. Ssjg is unlocked the way vegeta did it and blue is then discovered. I personally hope for a potential continuation to this series as it's kinda weird that vegeta isnt here but welcome nonetheless
I think this was a really good video but the thing is there were a lot of points where things just couldn't happen the way you put it no matter what.
I fly like the way carthu edits
I just noticed quite the number of rhymes. Like as if a fusion of Dr Sues & William Shakespeare wrote these lines.
Wouldn't whis just find Tarble and Broly during battle of gods??
And Gohan still meets Videl so that's all the saiyans they need for the god ritual 👀 (assuming Goten is conceived)
@@montesoulWhat about tournament of power?
Definitely great at these ever consider branching off into other verse's? Seems like DBZ quality what ifs blows away any other animes
I believe that you should have used brolly but its fine keep up the good work
Awesome finish with the forced spirit fission. I wasn't expecting that.
Goku vs majin buu would probably be affected or any time they needed to fuse
True!
I kinda just want another part where you go with crazy things that wouldn’t happen, but would for a kinda joke part maybe whis goes and gets broly and tarble to help out with the ritual and brings back the new revamped dbs bardock temporarily for the ritual.
banger video.
think about this: roshi could have beat cell using the mafuba.
Not really, Cell knew every technique of every one he got genetic material from (for reasons).
And Piccolo (Mayunia) had developed and used the mafuba-gaeshi (counter mafuba) against kami in the 23rd world martial arts tournament.
@@RadeticDaniel you hella smart
@@RadeticDaniel also based on how easy Frost was able to reflect it and the tournament of power I'm pretty sure it would be very easy for cell to reflect it
@@Doyoueverwonderwhywerehere oh yeah, the power gap by itself would neutralize Roshi.
I went with the mafuba gaeshi because it would make the technique pointless for other stronger fighters as well =)
@@RadeticDaniel He knows them because Gero's spy robots recorded and analysed them all. With Piccolo's techs this would be justifiable either way because Namekians have genetic memory. The only thing unaccounted for is Freeza's techniques that he never used on Earth
I know this will be a bit random, but im curious if you have made a version of your avatar in something like Xenoverse/XV2, be cool to see what moves you would be using/combat style
I love the freeza impression
Please can you continue you can make it so they ask shenron how to make a ssg they find out you need 5 rightus sayans or you need to train with a god ki holder (whis) and goku trains with whis making him get ssgss and chi chi hearing the death of her future self (because of future gohan) allows goku to train 24/7 making him get blue evolution or blue kaioken X20 so he is strong enough to kill golden freaza. Also gohan (not wanting his friends dead) spars with goku on earth and gets god ki.
If Vegeta died, Piccolo, Yamch, Tien and Krillin would have more screen time lol
Well i'd say supreme kai would still offer gohan to train and get the z sword out, getting elder kai out once goku would come to see gohans training progress with the z sword, thus making him ultimate, then beerus comes and if you really want continue this for fun, they could scout the otherworld for the saiyans of old that made yamoshi ssjgod, so they return for a die hel goku out, beerus gets satisfied and on resurrection of F, gohan would hold frieza off for a bit, goku comes back (Since there's no vegeta here, goku is a lot weaker) and well he doesn't stand a chance, but i think he has ssjblue, but he unlocked it like the same day, so its a brand new form can't use it for long, so i think goku just gets potara earrings since they don't know about fusion dance and defeats frieza as gokhan, they would turn in to an ultimate god form combining the two or just ssjblue (Blue works aswell since the fusion would have an easier time handling the form thats what i think). The rest you could imagine urself and btw i think on goku black arc future gohan would have ssj3 and they still manage to defeat goku black and zamasu with gohan unlocking ssj rage (same as future trunks in main timeline). T.O.P would happen aswell... less chances of winning i think, but possible.
Can you do one where goku landed on zenos world please. It would be super exciting and also cooler then the other one
Honestly feel that Goku would consult the Dragon Balls, and a more astute/focused Gohan would as well if not him.
And even then Beerus would ask Whis what other Saiyans are in the Universe if any, therefore finding Tarble or Broly, both candidates for that final Saiyan for the ritual as they are pure of heart.
And even then, I feel the think-tank that is Whis and Gohan would probably come to the idea that a Saiyan training under a God would also create a Super Saiyan God of some form.
Nice
do next a video about " what if the OG Broly show up in namek in the freeza saga"
Hey what's the name of the music used at 5:30?
great intro theme
Carthu my man you gotta do a "What if Earth was moved to universe 6?" Video
I have an idea. What about combining what ifs? Like Goku being born with God Ki and sent to Beerus world. He would unlock SSG and MUI earlier through this most likely
Wow i legit suggested this last video and it actually came up..
Watched this with my 9yo and 8yo sons and they thought it was the coolest thing ever. My 9yo is a huge DB fan, he has read the whole manga and your storyline kept blowing his mind. Subbed and we're gonna starting watching your other vids next. Not sure if you'll see this, but keep up the good work my man, you have a gift for storytelling and your editing is top notch too!
We did feel sorry for Piccolo tho, since he didn't get to do his fusions, didn't get to have his brief but epic moment where he slaps Freiza around for a bit, and he got shafted out of the instant transmission party 😓
Aye bro can you please continue with what if gohan was like goku
I have an idea for a what if maybe what if great ape had no drawbacks (aka no loss of control lumbering movements etc)
When he does the voices it makes me feel as if im a child going to bed and he is reading me a story
Can you do What if Krillin and Android 18 got a mini series like wandavision
Rip Chris but lowkey I think they should hire you for his voice because man you're good
They already have someone to do frieza chris had an understudy. He voiced frieza in dbz kakarot and part of the tournament of power arc
That Frieza impression tho 👌
Yo your frieza is pretty good (R.I.P Chris)
I misread this being uploaded 4 months ago at first lol
I loved It but here's an idea what if Goku was sent to king ki's planet by king ki
DO "WHAT IF VEGETA TURNED SSJ3 AGAINST BEERUS AFTER HE SLAPED BULMA" NEXT!!! plz plz plz plz (or maybe your theory about SSJ3 and its cons and/or what if the transformation was mastered? Could it be useful and possibly brought back in the future? I'd love to hear what you think about it. Your videos are awesome! Thanks!
What of Goku went back to his murderous ways for a wee bit.
the voice acting goes so hard
It could happened by replacing the two seyinas Short by brolly and Paraguse by saying that goku is the one who killed prince vegeta
Well golden frieza might never happen but it still could. I trust Carthu’s logic
The forced spirit fission was such a swerve I was not ready for
Can we get a if carthuru was in dragon ball full story pt2 and if goku yoused kaioken and ultra instants two